This year ends as it started: with simmering discontent, hostility and frustration. The Empire is still broke, getting worse by the day. Yet Washington pretends it is business as usual. Wars without end continue consuming lives. Air travel has become a peep-show and grope-fest. Partisan politics makes for a great spectacle, but resolves nothing. Europeans have already realized this; their citizenry is increasingly resorting to riots in order to communicate with their rulers. Meanwhile, as one country after another falters and demands rescue, Germany’s patience wears thin.
The world is at a fork in the road; there is no option to continue straight ahead. Those who have invested everything into the Empire refuse to see this. Instead, they work even harder to chase the end of history, unaware that the only end they run towards is their own.
Prisoners of Myths
In February, U.S. Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair spoke before a Senate committee about challenges to the Empire’s "security." From the contents of the testimony it was readily apparent that Washington lived in a perpetual state of fear. Threats were everywhere - from al-Qaeda to cyberspace, every civil war in Africa, oil and gas pipelines, even "climate change"!
On gem in particular was the claim that "persistent ethnic tensions in Bosnia" amount to the "biggest challenge to maintaining stability in Europe." Yes, forcing the inhabitants of Bosnia to live under a centralized government is far more important to the Empire than dealing with, say, terrorist cells in Bosnia. Yet terrorism is supposed to be the principal reason Blair’s office came into being, and this whole endless war is going on…
Why is the Empire pushing for a Bosnia that is not just imaginary, but impossible? Because a "multiethnic Bosnia" is the Empire’s founding myth, seen as a Clinton-era "success" in a sea of failures thereafter. Never mind that this success is a fiction, a cynical lie readily apparent to anyone who lives there, or even visits occasionally. From the myth of "aggression and genocide" to the myth of centralization bringing EU membership and prosperity, the very foundation of present-day Bosnia is a quicksand of lies. Nothing can be built on it. So nothing is.
The Depths of Treason
Meanwhile, in Serbia, the sycophantic regime of Boris Tadic continued to provide an object lesson in how to systematically destroy a country. If prior to 2010 there had been some doubts as to the degree to which the regime in Serbia was remotely controlled from Brussels and Washington, they have been decisively dispelled, time and again.
The first indication of rampant treachery in Belgrade was a cable in early February from the "Quint" — U.S., UK, Germany, Italy and France — in which they revealed that their "partners in Belgrade" had made assurances that the diplomatic defense of Kosovo would be "just a maneuver to remove Kosovo from the political agenda in Serbia." Even a rhetorical defense of Serbia’s claim to Kosovo — a self-proclaimed independent state – complained the Empire in effect, was not allowed.
Confirmation of Empire’s determination came in July, at the International Court of Justice. Resorting to sophistry and verbal sleight of hand, the judges re-framed the question Serbia had formulated with the UN General Assembly approval, so as to fit the answer they were commanded to give. The decision didn’t quite mean that the Albanians’ declaration of independence was legal — as the cheerleader press claimed at the time — only that it wasn’t illegal, but the tortured reasoning behind it was simply blown apart in the dissenting comments.
Tadic’s government then penned a draft resolution for the UN, acknowledging the verdict but maintaining that Kosovo’s secession was clearly illegal. The draft was weak and even questionable in places, but it won parliamentary approval and the backing of Russia, China, and many other countries. Whereupon the Empire threatened Belgrade and Tadic folded like a wet paper bag. The final resolution was written in Brussels, and amounted to a total capitulation. The UN General Assembly had the decency to pass it by acclamation; actually voting on it would have been in bad taste.
The RC President
In fact, at every point during the past year, Tadic never failed to do precisely as the Empire commanded. From January to March, his ruling coalition fought to ram through a parliamentary resolution accepting blame for the "genocide" in Srebrenica. Revealed by an arrogant and careless EU commissar to have been drafted in Brussels and demanded of Tadic as yet another in the line of endless conditions for (theoretical, hypothetical and never forthcoming) EU membership, the resolution finally passed in late March.
As the show trial of wartime Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic continued before the Hague Inquisition, a Muslim leader found himself detained in London on a Serbian war crimes warrant. In a spectacle that ensued, the very same media that have declared Karadzic guilty long ago now jumped to defend Ejup Ganic. Eventually, a British judge set Ganic free. However, the real scandal was the claim of the Bosnian Muslim representative that Tadic’s men had offered to drop the charges themselves, in exchange for Sarajevo’s acceptance of the Srebrenica resolution! Official Belgrade never denied this claim.
In April, Tadic pledged himself to a Turkish vision of Bosnia, bolstering Turkey’s efforts to restore Ottoman-era supremacy over the region. And in October, immediately preceding the visit by almost-Empress Clinton herself, the regime organized a "Gay Pride" parade. Three hundred foreign activists and domestic politicians marched down the ghostly streets of Belgrade, while five thousand police kept the rioting Serbs at bay. The American ambassador got a chance to parade under the sign "Death to the State and Capitalism." Democracy at its best, or what?
Nowhere else in the world can one find a specimen like Tadic. He either has a chip in his head, or one must wonder whether the Imperius Curse may not exist only in the fictional realm of Harry Potter…
Marty Trumps WikiLeaks
Thanks to its grip on Tadic, the Empire has been utterly certain of its complete mastery in the Balkans. Its diplomats in the region have come to express themselves freely, foregoing the encumbrance of manners. Therefore, the WikiLeaks’ publication of U.S. diplomatic cables in November only offered proof for what has been suspected all along. It wasn’t hard for them to be completely overshadowed in mid-December, when Swiss investigator Dick Marty released his report about the mafia-like regime of KLA terrorist Hashim Thaci, currently styling himself "prime minister of the Republic of Kosovo."
The product of a two-year investigation, Marty’s report details the practices of the KLA mafia state: heroin smuggling, murder, and trafficking in people and body parts. Patrons of the KLA boss in Europe and the U.S. reacted either by ignoring the charges or demanding to see "evidence". Tadic immediately came to their rescue, stating that Thaci was a "legitimate Albanian representative" and that he had no trouble sitting down and negotiating with the KLA boss.
What Next?
As the Empire continues to pursue the impossible dream of ending history on its own terms, its own grip on reality — never strong to begin with — is rapidly diminishing. All the posturing in the world cannot force Bosnia to become what it is not. No amount of rhetoric can blot out the facts of murder and mayhem by their "monster" friends in Kosovo. While Tadic’s impeccable servitude may lead some to believe that the Empire is all-knowing and all-powerful, the WikiLeaks cables reveal a distinctly different picture: one of chaos and confusion.
A standing ambassador marches in a Gay Pride parade under an Anarcho-Communist banner. A retired one endorses the partition of Bosnia. Another endorses the movement for "Natural Albania," and raises no eyebrows in the process. What gives?
The pursuit of empire has bankrupted America, and made Americans less safe than ever. Thanks to such typical Imperial diplomats as the recently departed Richard Holbrooke, the world has come to understand that Empire’s power is not based on ideas, but on fear. What happens when the world stops being afraid? The answer may come in 2011.
Read more by Nebojsa Malic
- Victory Day – May 10th, 2013
- Consenting to Rape – April 25th, 2013
- An Unexpected Refusal – April 12th, 2013
- Lawless: An Oddly Exceptional Empire – March 28th, 2013
- Illusion of Triumph – March 21st, 2013





theothercanada
December 31st, 2010 at 2:25 am
The first indication of rampant treachery in Belgrade was a cable in early February from the "Quint" — U.S., UK, Germany, Italy and France — in which they revealed that their "partners in Belgrade" had made assurances that the diplomatic defense of Kosovo would be "just a maneuver to remove Kosovo from the political agenda in Serbia."
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None of this would be possible without majority of Serbs collaborating with the occupiers and Quisling regime of Boris Tadic, Pakistani and Pashtun resistance are examples of people rejecting invaders and Quislings.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
December 31st, 2010 at 4:46 am
I will have to contradict you. The majority of Serbs don't collaborate. Having fallen for fake promises and having been betrayed by every leader they had since 1945, they've just learnt to mind their own business and to expect nothing good from the state.
What Tadic is doing, Milosevic did before him. What Milosevic did, many others did before him.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dalberg-Acton,_1st_Baron_Acton), and Tadic has absolute power in Serbia.
You doubt of it, voters turnout is even lower than in the US.
Apathy is totalitarianism's best weapon. And Serbs, after all that has been visited upon them, just have become apathetic to politics. Given the wild predatory lawless system in which they have to live, a system ruled by foreigners and unaccountable tycoons, they already have plenty to deal with in order to simply survive.
If you're such a fighter, why don't you fight your own government?
Your comment is indecent in regard of the innocent killed by, among others, your own Canadian troops, both in Afghanistan and in Serbia.
Where unaccountable tycoons rule
theothercanada
December 31st, 2010 at 5:35 am
I will have to contradict you. The majority of Serbs don't collaborate. Having fallen for fake promises and having been betrayed by every leader they had since 1945, they've just learnt to mind their own business and to expect nothing good from the state.
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Serbs had a choice between General Mihailovic and Austro-Hungarian corporal Josip Broz aka tito, vast majority of Eastern Orthodox Croats aka Serbs chose to serve foreign corporal. The grave/monument of the corporal responsible for 750.000 murders of Serbs after the WW2 ended is still in Belgrade. Imagine monument to Mr. Adolf in Tel Aviv? These are historical facts my friend.
MichaelKenny
December 31st, 2010 at 6:19 am
An amusing attack on the EU on the eve of Estonia adopting the euro. Since Wall St's attack on the euro has created an ecomomic boom in Germany, I don't see why Germany's patience should be wearing thin. Equally, the Chinese have now said that they will bail out any eurozone country that needs it and even Hungary has been offered help. The rest is just the usual "America always wins" mishmash.
Montaigne
December 31st, 2010 at 6:38 am
011 is a bit optimistic. We will probably see clear evidence of the bad state of the US economy in 2011. And hopefully the population will begin to look after leaders with no belief in the positive benefits of military consumption. For how much has the average American gained by that? And no confidence in the lasting improvements made by threats and power abuse and lack of accountability. Or spin.
A world , where truth and peace prevails, seems better positioned to see long-term investments in production of real goods. A world governed by spin, deception, lies, appearance, war, disruption, torture, manslaughter, is a hasard to invest a future into. You only gets grab-the-money-and-leave enterprises.
It is with some morbid pleasure one looks forward to see a spectacle of confused horror, when Americans see they only have paper (worthless dollars) and empty promises to live from. Well, the proof of that missing pudding is in the avoidance of doing real work. Evolution of derivatives, mingling abroad , registering patents and copyrights, upholding bases everywhere with NOTHING produced whatsoever. – nothing has lasting value.
The underlying premise, that the whole world would LOVE to be ruled or controlled by the Americans, and reward them overwhelmingly for this almost too kind gesture towards them, does not seem to hold water!
Vojkan Milosavljevic
December 31st, 2010 at 6:43 am
I will assume you have Serb origins. I've already had such a conversation with an uncle who survived Goli Otok and ended in Escondido, California thanks to an Ustasha emigrant who helped him escape.
No they didn't. Have you heard of those resounding ballot boxes in which any cast for Kingdom rang like a church bell and any cast for the "Revolution" fell noiseless?
As for the corporal, people got a better living under him than they had before. You can't blame them for not knowing that it was thanks to loans American taxpayers unknowingly granted them.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
December 31st, 2010 at 6:49 am
Are you real? I am yet to read any comment by you that makes sense. The problem with folks like you is that they leave folks like me with a dilemma: is it worth to waste time to logically prove that your reasoning is absurd, at best?
But since you seem to unconditionally support EU bureaucracy, http://www.google.fr/search?as_q=banana+curve+ang…
Now, if that ain't waste of taxpayers money, besides US imperialist wars, I don't know what is.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
December 31st, 2010 at 6:52 am
Or just wait until those bureaucrats decide to standardise the size and curvature of dildos.
Aleksandar
December 31st, 2010 at 7:49 am
Apropos Bosnia, partition maybe is a wanted solution, but it can hardly be the best. How long after that will someone have the "bright idea" of "going with the popular opinion" and decide to federalize Macedonia because an alternative is too complicated to function? And. how long after that will people decide to not allow migrations any more, viewing them as a precursor to further ethnic conquest by the other group? How long before we barricade ourselves with laws to protect us from the growing numbers of the "others"? The result will be not-so-free society. I believe that Bosnia should be a state of the people who feel it to be their homeland, as I believe that Kosovo should be a part of Serbia and the Albanians should behave as loyal citizens. If divisions along ethnic lines start, there will be no end in sight.
Yugo Nostalgic
December 31st, 2010 at 8:10 am
The old Yugoslavia was the best thing that ever happened to this area, with people living in peace and prosperity. Had Albania formed some kind of confederation with Yugoslavia just after the second war, according to Tito's wishes, it would have been even better, because the problem of Kosovan and Macedonian Albanians would have been resolved in that way.
Let those who ruined our wonderful country be accursed.
It's not enough to blame leaders for all that happened, since masses of people participated in the whole endeavour. I still see those very same political forces that contributed to the demise of the country, winning elections in all those statelets that came to being after the collapse of Yugoslavia. It means, paradoxically, that people haven't yet come to their senses, that they tacitly support and approve of the whole politics that impoverished them, made them more miserable and backward. Which is strange.
I know that my views are extremely unpopular, since today even Serb nationalists spit on Yugoslavia, claim that it was mistake and similar, while they once used to defend the idea.
Eric Siverson
December 31st, 2010 at 10:12 am
I tend to agree with you but the divisions are really becuase of culture and beliefs differences . We all segragate our worst criminals . Society can only be advanced under a certian respect for one anothers property rights , civil rights , and human rights . When the laws or rules guaranteeing these rights can not be agreed upon . war or seperation is the only answer . These wars or seperations should not be prevented or stoped . The society offering the most justice will usaully previal in the long run . becuase crime itself paralyses goverenment and its society .
conumishu
December 31st, 2010 at 10:21 am
Excellent article.
The western empire is going down. Its sedated nations still react poorly. The rest of the world, slowly but surely, gathers to oppose the empire. A simple matter of common sense. A simple matter of time. In a way, having the world as enemy would be a blessing for the western oligarchs, but the grip on its "subjects" will prove to be weak. People don't fear repression, they still fight media produced ghosts, but the nightmarish illusions can't last enough. A year passes, it would seem like business as usual for some, yet the new year will be shorter, the next one even shorter. Time is losing patience and the nineth circle of hell waits hungrily to be filled with the many Tadic the "end of history" spew out.
Eric Siverson
December 31st, 2010 at 10:30 am
could not agree more Yugo . Yugoslavia was a wonderfull multiethnic country . Where pvt ownership of the land was higher than most of the United States . Germany , England and France evidently did not want another big country in the E.U . Yugoslavia might have hasd some influence , now the little bitty republics come in with no power at all . I liked Yugoslav communism , were the employees own half the company they worked for . To bad general moters did not give thier employees G.M. stock instead of those lucrative pennsions . I have seen employees that are happy the stingy company is losing money , I wonder if they would be happy if it was thier money ? I dont think so .
conumishu
December 31st, 2010 at 10:59 am
Bosnia shouldn't have existed in the first place. Can't see how an ongoing headache since its inception could be a better choice than a common sense outcome (which wouldn't have posed any legal problems 20 years ago).
Look at the ongoing scandalous UN's behaviour in Cote d'Ivoire. The international legal system as we knew it is dead, UN became a sort of distopian organization. The "one of a kind", "no precedent generator" Somalia, Irak, Kosovo "solutions" already blew out the legalistic order. Deluding ourselves would only make us more vulnerable to the "new world order" concoction – read permanent instability, injustice, treachery, despotism.
conumishu
December 31st, 2010 at 10:59 am
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Either we restore the old rules and reverse Dayton, declare Irak invasion illegal, ban the "humanitarian right to interfere", expose internationally the "war on terror" lie, abstain from declaring states as rogue or failed and meddling in sovereign states internal affairs, regain diplomacy's dignity through the action of true diplomats (the opposites of Holbrooke, Rice or she-Clinton) or we'll have to reshape the world painfully. Leaving the task to the globalist empire would be the gravest mistake.
Self restraint always, submission never.
andy
December 31st, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Your views are naive and unrealistic. Your egalitarianism just doesn't fly.
Yugo Nostalgic
December 31st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I tend even to dislike conspiracy theories, like it was all the fault of Germany, Vatican, USA, Europe, England, France, or who knows whom, because I see it as a kind of convenient excuse. Excuse for the stupidity of ours, of Southern Slavs, who did of all this on the ground. There is no excuse for the work of self-destruction we did.
Although some of those consipracy theories might have some truth in themselves.
Jovan Milojevich
December 31st, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Yugo Nostalgic- Serbs don't spit on the idea of Yugoslavia, just on the idea of Tito's Yugoslavia (a repressive totalitarian regime that did everything in its power to weaken Serbia, i.e. the 1974 Constitution).
To Aleksander- Your ideology of peoples unifying under one state is nice in theory, however the destruction of Yugoslavia based on the West's principle of building nation states (under the guise of an ethnic group's right to "self-determination") completely undermines this theory…. according to the West it was right for Yugoslavia to break up, it was right for Croatia to become ethnically pure, it was right for the KLA to take Kosovo from Serbia, it WILL be right to separate Vojvodina and Raška from Serbia, but it is completely WRONG for Serbs in Bosnia to be self determined. It is too late to do things the right way vis-a-vis Yugoslavia; the principle of a people's right to self-determination has been established (by the West) and so the Serbs now have every right to govern themselves. Under no circumstances should this right be taken away from them and for them to be forced to live under an Islamo-fascist leadership. Centralization in Bosnia will be the death to Serbs there. One only needs to look at the demise of the Serbs in Croatia or Kosovo to understand this.
ampjack1
December 31st, 2010 at 6:42 pm
ever notice post colonial Africa looks a little like an eggshell "shattered,(geo-political maps)1-one aka balkenized,as the carbon structure of geo-politic,,, Europe or the whole world for that matter cept major "blocks of "con-federation ex;?,oo,small little "peonic "city/states,,,DC,Portugal,north & south Belgium,etc,etc,greater metropolisis areas,well 2010 how are ya duing,,,city versus the resourced wild/rural greater earth at large ,period.Well see ya 2011 at the halls of what will pass for status quo and the moving spirit of the stars amongst the people with free will,,oo,,,
theothercanada
January 1st, 2011 at 2:24 am
You answer with opinions and rationalizations to the actual historical facts.
How much reward is Evil Empire offering for the heads of leaders of Muslim resistance and Liberation movements? The resistance keeps growing in spite of atrocities committed against them.
I am sure you are familiar with starvation, deprivation and oppression brave people of Gaza face and still they do not bow to the Evil doers.
Are you familiar with war crimes and atrocities committed against Serbia by Nazi Anglo-American Terrorist Organization and their domestic enablers?
Yet vast majority of Serbs look forward to enslavement by the Fourth Reich aka EU while the numbers are exact opposite in Croatia.
How would people in Texas react if Obama decided to kidnap George W. Bush and sell him to the so-called IC?
I understand you may not like the facts, but they remain facts regardless of any ones opinion.
Respectfuly
theothercanadian
theothercanada
January 1st, 2011 at 2:57 am
"boznia" was created after WW2 as a buffer zone between Serbia and Croatia.
theothercanada
January 1st, 2011 at 3:03 am
If it were so, why did it fall apart so violently?
Did the break up of first one was more violent or was it the second?
Why there was a Christmas uprising in Montenegro which was brutally put out by Serbian forces at the forced creation of Kingdom of Serbs Croats and Slovenes, for example?
Why on the Statehood day of that Kingdom Croats were flying their flags at half mast?
PS.The name of SouthSlavia came later.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 1st, 2011 at 3:43 am
Hardly 50% of people in age to vote actually do vote in Serbia. The brave people of Gaza live in apartheid, so they have no choice but to resist.
There is no official occupation army in Serbia, so there is no one to resist, unless you advocate a civil war. And there is constant propaganda in the media. As everywhere, people start openly opposing policies only when they get on the receiving end of the stick.
How many Canadians have demonstrated against their soldiers being in Afghanistan? How many Americans?
Then, maybe Serbs want to get into the EU because thus they won't have to cross borders in order to see relatives who live in a different former Yugoslav republic.
And for God's sake, don't believe opinion polls that are made to comfort those who order them.
And what's wrong with rationalising historical facts? Explaining is not excusing, it is just explaining. And the resounding ballot boxes are not a rationalisation, they're a historical fact. Just as it is a fact that people had a better life under Broz than they had before or after. Most people are not experts in economics, so they hardly can know that it was for the most part thanks to American taxpayers and that they'll have to give back that money to the same looters that originally looted it.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 1st, 2011 at 4:00 am
Uh no, Bosnia was a Serb kingdom prior to the Ottoman invasion and has existed as a province since then. The "modern" Bosnia was created in 1878 by the Habsburg monarchy. And it was its annexation that actually led to events that official history considers as detonators for WWI. But it is true that it has become predominantly Muslim populated only after WWII. Before that, Serbs have always been the most numerous people there.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 1st, 2011 at 4:18 am
Thank God, there are Serbs who are capable of reasoning.
theothercanada
January 1st, 2011 at 4:46 am
Then, maybe Serbs want to get into the EU because thus they won't have to cross borders in order to see relatives who live in a different former Yugoslav republic.
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This is the exact reason Serbs wanted, supported and served AH corporal and gave up their National Identity and that is OK, Serbs are not the first nor the last to have done that.
Naturally there are consequences.
PS.I never advocate anything and I do not criticize other peoples opinions and rationalizations, personally I prefer just talking about the facts cause I do not poses ability to explain others behavior, motivations, desires etc.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 1st, 2011 at 5:04 am
Are you a Marxist? Your reasoning is.
I don't pretend to be able to explain everything. I only try to understand what can motivate people before I judge them. And by the way, I never judge, I leave that to God.
Obviously, you don't advocate, you don't criticise, but you do judge.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 1st, 2011 at 5:27 am
"Why there was a Christmas uprising in Montenegro"
A state can have only one king. The bigger predator ate the lesser, that's all. And by the way, both predators were Montenegrin. Just as I am from my father lineage. But then I am Serb before all.
Don't forget that Zagreb too rebelled, and that peaceful demonstrations were brutally put out by soldiers who fired at the crowd.
Don't forget that Rijeka, then Fiume, was overwhelmingly in favour of joining the newly formed Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes but after being Austro-Hungarian, it became Italian. Btw, Istria and Kvarner are the only two regions of Croatia inhabited by civilised people.
Don't forget that Slovenians voted by referendum to join.
Simplifications don't help understand History. They have the exact opposite effect.
Why it fell apart so violently? I happen to have served my military service in Ljubljana at the peek of the CIA's and BND's activity that led to the break-up.
As for the war, what an idiot breaks, an army of geniuses can't fix. When a damage is done, it is done. When a life is wasted, it is wasted and nothing can bring it back. But people tend to go blood-red when you harm their beloved ones.
kittyantonikwakfer
January 1st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
"The pursuit of empire has bankrupted America, and made Americans less safe than ever. Thanks to such typical Imperial diplomats as the recently departed Richard Holbrooke, the world has come to understand that Empire’s power is not based on ideas, but on fear. What happens when the world stops being afraid? The answer may come in 2011."
The first sentence is so very true, as I've written online very many times, one of the latest re. the "safe" portion – http://bit.ly/hp6UZm – to article at Christian Science Monitor re. TSA.
Individuals do not need to wait for "something" to happen, they can and should – if each truly wants most likely to maximize his/her own individual lifetime happiness – participate in making the empire of governments come to an end. This is based on the fact that government enforcers are the key to keeping and growing empires, and governments in general.
I strongly urge that everyone please keep the following in mind always. The politicians and bureaucrats – rulers – do *not* get out into the field and enforce their own legislation/decrees/mandates/etc or even their own opinions. Instead they – including Obama in the US together with his chief underlings – depend on the enforcers to do the dirty work, both domestically via the enormous numbers of agencies federal, state and local and also the branches of the military. Therefore the enforcers are the key!! Politicians and bureaucrats simply talk and write, even when it is to give orders – whether to enforcers or directly to ordinary citizens (via Internet blogs/vids, phone, snail and email pronouncements for the latter).
Strong negative Social Preferencing – withdrawal or refusal of voluntary association with the reasons made public – towards government enforcers who continue in that role after attempts to logically persuade them of their errors (offers of assistance in obtaining new productive jobs is a good idea for those known personally), is the needed step. Public identification (photos, names and location) of these continuing government enforcers will enable others to also Socially Preference against them, thereby increasing the social pressure to change their employment, their major interaction behavior – use cellphone cameras and the Internet to the fullest. This selective (discriminating) association to exclude those who cause harm is a potentially *very* powerful method of non-violent action, referred to as ostracism by many down through the ages. It is included in Gene Sharp's 2nd volume (of 3), "The Politics of Nonviolent Action", Chapter 4, "The Methods of Social Noncooperation".
Even in the current very unfree societies (of which the US is a major one), negative Social Preferencing can be effectively used to influence individual social behavior and the actions of the State. I wrote about this practice in general most recently (April 2009) in "Tax/Regulation Protests are Not Enough: Relationship of Self-Responsibility and Social Order" – http://selfsip.org/focus/protestsnotenough.html
So I join Nebojsa in looking forward to 2011 as the year when many in the world stop being afraid. This goes right along with the 2011 Prime Hopes I twittered as the clock passed midnight local time for me in Arizona – http://twitter.com/#!/KittyAntonik/status/2109897…
bozh
January 1st, 2011 at 12:20 pm
it goes w.o. saying that with croat'n and serb leaderships' of bosnia thinking that expulsions thru war of nonserb or noncroat pop from their respective 'holy' lands [made touching after the two crimes] had been justified and fruits thereof stay unchanged, bosnia cannot function in whatever other mode than broken up.
never ever seeing that war for parts of bosnia is had been the worst possible solution available. new wars wld amount to more crime also!
and in view that present situation in bosnia had been largely engineered by serb inperialists, this phenomenon occludes serb right for own state in bosnia.
but these criminals, chetniks and ustashe, are quite willing to sacrifice thousands of own people just to create a few more fascist states- as if we did not have enough already.
so why, haven't swiss italians and french demanded a state of own and actually waged wars against german swiss and with help from france and italy in order to wreck it?
and why haven't swiss germans slaughtered and expelled their own minorities?
is it because, unlike fascist croatia and serbia, france and italy never sent their agents into switzerland to promote fear and hatred for germans as serbs and croats have done in bosnia against bosniaks?
it does seem that tadich is following mesich's message: croats go to sarajevo; we will help u but not the way u want!
Those who committed enormous crimes in very peaceful bosnia since '92 just cannot bear to lose the fruits of their labors
fortunately these bastards wld die and new thinkers may take over. more cld be said.
we have already note that ustashe [60-120] had been slaughtered by croatian patrtisans to avenf deaths of serbs, jews, croatians, and roms.
thus, there was no cause for serb fascists to attack croatia or bosnia citing the need to avenge or protect serbs. tnx
bozh
January 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
while my observations [or better yet, our observations; probably 50% of croats wld agree with me] is waiting moderation, i'l posit others.
tudjman and his leadership [or some of it] had betrayed croatians when they either started aggression against bosniaks or supported it militarily after the bosnian croats aggressed against bosniaks.
i remember being very angry at croat'n govt when i finally concluded late '93 that croatia was involved in that aggression.
it shld be noted that croatian govt from its inception was largely comprising fascists and assorted war profiteers.
croat'n govt members shld have stood trial for crimes committed against serb civilians after the three major battles where over and not the officers such as norac, cermak, markac, gotovina.
btw, icty wld pass judgement on generals gotovina, markach, and chermak in april '11. they stand
accused of excessive bombardment of knin and allowing killings serb civilians after military operations where over. tnx
Eric Siverson
January 1st, 2011 at 1:18 pm
I have no idea how many in the world will stop being afraid , I believe the opposite , people should be getting more afraid , very afraid .
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 1st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
It looks like some people are incapable of accepting historical truths. Before giving me a "thumb down", tell me which part of my comment isn't true.
bozh
January 1st, 2011 at 2:05 pm
according to most empires, nations such as slovene, croat, macedonian, and montenegrin were deemed as unruly, primitive, violent, blood-thirsty tribes. fascist serbs sought to take advantage of the imperial stance.
one of their proclamation had been that serbs have lived from n. macedonia to bosnia and in much of croatia and being the only nation and nation-building nation in the area, had the right to unite all serb 'holy' lands in one greater serbia.
hungary and italy were happy about that view. if serbs wld have prevailed, istria, much of dalmatia, baranja, transmura, and croat'n littoral wld have been forever wrested from croats.
it was a nice dream. alas, it caused also nightmare and not just for non-nation-building tribes but also for serbs.
serbs tried and tried and each time failed to gather all serb lands in one contigious area [ok some nonserb villages and areas had be first cleansed to obtain contigious serbia].
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they tried to cause ww1 and with help from 'friendly' empires got the war going. however, only getting kosovo and vojvodina.
that was not gonna do. one more war was needed. get the germans to invade democratic yugoslavia in '41; join them in order to set up still greater serbia. however, this attempt utterly failed.
so what to do? but of course one more war. this time against croatia and bosnia. alas, utter failures but with enormous crimes.
so what to do….? but of course, u guessed it! just read comments by serb fascists and malic's pieces on this site to conclude that they are calling for more bloodshed.
but note, please, they are safe! tnx
Neil
January 1st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
What happens when the world stops being afraid?
The answer was given by Adolph just minutes before the KATJUSHAS CONCERT directed by ZHUKOV in Berlin 1945.
Adolph said to his generals in the bunker:
The end has arriverd. We must recognize that the world will not be mastered by us. The supremacy will be taken by ( he stopped for a moment and then said ) …the great nations from the FAR EAST THAT ARE ABOUT TO RISE……
US can save itself only if it destroys its FIFTH COLUMN, that destroyed everything that was good in this country, to the interests of another greedy for land one.
It is to the brave American decent people to do this job, or the words of Adolph will come true very very soon …..
bozh
January 1st, 2011 at 3:51 pm
i wonder when wld people stop hunting for truth? hey, folks, there is none that does not come out of people's mouth!
thus we obtain chinese, russian, uighur, french, italian, iranian, indian, et all truths. and in principle a truth for every human that ever lived or will live.
and there is no god save one coming outta mouths of babes. in principle, there i one god for each person.
no there is not one god— there is wil of the people instead. and it takes only one eye to see what they are doing and, ergo, expect the same or worse.
so when a person says s/he believes in god, not a single human can know what that person means.
when i say i am a croatian, no one knows what i mean. only i do. and i am a diff croatian and human at diff times.
tomorrow i am not going to be me of today. and always first of all a human, then husband, father, friend, fellow human, laborer and last and least croat!
the only certainty is change. for better or for worse. we get to choose in which direction we move.
u.s is changing. even in structure of its society and in perceived needs of what u.s needs.
new indian wars are now needed– per perception of u.s supremacists– now more than ever god being american. it [whatever it may be] is indivisable as well as planet.
and that's the change one can believe in.
u.s supremacism [fascism, if one prefers]: personal, national, cultural, linguistic, religious is changing also. it is getting by day more extreme. this bodes unwell for lesser-valued people and peoples!
so expect steep worsenings in all aspects of living for less-valued people!
supremacism is the root of all evil; thus, it never takes a rest from wickidness. with at least 5 bn lesser-valued people on this planet, supremacists are screeching mad at them and telling them tacitly: we do not need u any longer!! tnx
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 1st, 2011 at 6:10 pm
For God's sake, get a course in English. What you write is simply horrible to read. How is one supposed to answer to such illiteracy?
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 1st, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Iranian, Indian, French, Russian, Italian, Chinese. The Greek and the Jews, as well as my Mali, South Africa and Maori friends are missing.
You Croats have a problem with civilization?
bozh
January 1st, 2011 at 6:40 pm
u'r talking like a supremacist. which is root of all evil. montenegrins just voted for separation from serbia.
the vote for separation was 55% for. so, obviously that many montenegrins don't feel like serbs do. as u said, u are first of all a serb.
so u are telling people that no matter what serb fascists do, they are a priori right. keep it up! i hope all serb fascists think like u so that serbs can lose vojvodina and sanjak also.
in any case, u have helped croats quite a bit already! there are no longer 'holy' serb lands there. serbs now constitute only about 4% of croatian pop!
some of them are now calling selves "orthodox"; spurning serb ethnicity.
serbia will not ever possess an inch of bosnia. and some serbs see it that way. and want peace!
u want serbs to die for ur wishes.
that, to me, is not right!
bozh
January 1st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
"Why is the Empire pushing for a Bosnia that is not just imaginary, but impossible?" asks malic.
he probably means u.s wants an unified bosnia. and does he mean only u.s is striving to preserve wholeness of bosnia?
am i mistaken that also u.n wants keep bosnia in one piece and, i may add, in peace? it seems also that former serb friends also want to keep bosnia in one piece!
it seems to me that the reason world wants peace in bosnia is because one cannot be wrong in preserving peace there nor be in error for striving to keep bosnia together.
it shld be noted that the world had already rewarded serbs by allotting to them 49% of bosnia.
serb imperialists are not happy with such generous giveaway. and in spite of the fact that srebrenica, which had been 75% muslim in '95, is now 100% serb.
malich avoids to tell us what does the empire want in bosnia. he feigns ignorance of actual world policy towards bosnia.
he, merely via a 'question', condemns the empire [avoids to cite u.n.'s policy.... he thinks he can hoodwink people by an obvious ruse!].
it's not "why"; it is "what", that is the issue. what is u.n. doing in bosnia and what is the telos for bosnia? is it smthing like swiss model?
if this the case, it explains serb position: what, we bled for nothing and swore to holy sava, [a serb leader considered saintly--- u don't believe it, ay? i don't blame u] that we'd never ever live with muslims or croats in one country; no matter what the cost to serbs or nonserbs! tnx
bozh
January 2nd, 2011 at 5:12 am
malic says:
"In April, Tadic pledged himself to a Turkish vision of Bosnia, bolstering Turkey’s efforts to restore Ottoman-era supremacy over the region."
once again, whether lack of space or for other reasons, malic fails to describe what another power, this time turkey, wants in bosnia.
true, it can be assumed that turkey has own ideas, wishes, etc., for bosnia. so, what are they? what exactly is turkey doing to restore its supremacy over bosnia that it had until mid-19th c.?
mesich, former prez of croatia, had threatened to send croatian army into bosnia if serbs attempted to separate. he never said, as far as i know, anything about turkey interfering in favor of muslims.
mesich had also told bosnian croats to go to sarajevo and not zagreb and bring there their real or imagined grievances-concerns.
he finally realized, there is no way one is going to please ustashe unless croatia wld annex croat'n parts of bosnia.
i recall writing to croat'n govt in '93 about the danger of trying to dismember bosnia. mesich at that time was in the govt. it seems that he, along other govt members, either launched an aggression against bosniak or supported it militarily once bosniain croats started it.
malic may have cause for worry if he'd disclose what not only turkey wants in bosnia, but [as already noted] what u.n. is doing in bosnia or wants for bosnians.
and i do not think for a second that EU or u.n. doesn't know that whatever they do or don't do, it still wld not please bosnian fascists [muslim, serb, or croat].
so they r in there in spite of this fact. ustasha and chetnik's minds are set in cement. croats still glory in past bosnian 'glory' under croat kings [read: please, nonsense, criminality]
so do serbs. they are still led by dead men. and to boot, people owners! go figure. tnx
bozh
January 2nd, 2011 at 5:43 am
malic says:
"As the Empire continues to pursue the impossible dream of ending history on its own terms, its own grip on reality — never strong to begin with — is rapidly diminishing. All the posturing in the world cannot force Bosnia to become what it is not".
impossible dream? well, structurally, the statement falls in category of conclusions. and true-false, either-or, or right-wrong answers do not apply to conclusions.
at this time u.s is unbeatable and unstoppable in its quest for planet. it is succeeding brilliantly in afgh'n and iraq. yes, it is losing a few men there. bus as cheney said: so what? they are mercenaries, serving their country.
people also seem not to espy the fact that world supremacists are uniting like never before. so, it is not just u.s supremacists who are engaged in conquest of the planet.
richest people in u.s got even richer in the last decade. it is only the least-valued people world over who are losing and not plutocrats.
and balkan nations have their robber barons. is it any wonder they support american robbers and vice-versa? thieves used to wage wars against one another, but have now joined a union. tnx
Nikola Serb
January 2nd, 2011 at 6:05 am
Serbs, beware of these fishy and disgusting pro-Yugoslav, politically correct, "anti-nationalist" Croats (bozh-style). I prefer old-fashioned ustashas: at least they are more honest and you know where they stand. These fishy Yugoslavist Croats want to use us, Serbs, for some goals of their own.
AngelaKeaton
January 2nd, 2011 at 8:09 am
Bohz,
Thank you for reporting those comments. At this time, they do not meet the criteria for removal.
bozh
January 2nd, 2011 at 9:20 am
angela,
yes, u may may be right. but it is still ur criteria and not mine! in other words, might is right!
however, serbs are showing people what they are made of. so, that's a good point for me. tnx
Aleksandar
January 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
I understand what you all are saying, but just consider this. If divisions are allowed (as in the case of Kosovo for example), then who can stop anyone from denying more rights to minorities in any given state. Take Macedonia for example. The Macedonians might argue that all further legislation giving more "rights" to Albanians living in Macedonia should be suspended because ultimately it does not lead to the country being more "European", but it leads to federalization and then partition.
And, one might argue that the policy of Greece and Bulgaria to not recognize minorities living in those countries (other than religious ones) is right. And, if we view things in this manner, we should really redefine the direction in which the world is heading. Do we want nation states or not? Is humanity ready to decide?
bozh
January 2nd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
malic,
"tadic’s government then penned a draft resolution for the UN, acknowledging the verdict but maintaining that Kosovo’s secession was clearly illegal. The draft was weak and even questionable in places, but it won parliamentary approval and the backing of Russia, China,".
of course, russia with chechnya and china with uighur, tibet wld support serbia's quest to regain kosovo.
however, what is lost in war can be regained only by a war. so, i firmly conclude, that serbia can get kosovo only via another reconquest.
and china and russia may not lift a finger to help serbia reconquer kosovo.
as i said american god is unstoppable nor ever sated. kosovo is theirs now as much as kosovan, attacking kosovo may turn out to be an attack on u.s.
its dogma is known: where u.s ships, bases, and interests are there is u.s territory! this dogma is also supported by all supremacists! but not serb ones?! or what?
bozh
January 2nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
malic,
"Thanks to its grip on Tadic, the Empire has been utterly certain of its complete mastery in the Balkans",
let's not forget about the role balkan supremacists [fascists] in their willingness to destroy socialism in the balkans and accept americanism with its layered society in which lower class have next to zero econo-military-governmental powers.
this is the trump card u.s. supremacists have: knowing that birds of a feather [thieves-liars] always flock together.
for elucidation of what i have just posited, compare cuba with say, croatia, for good many yrs after its declalration of independence; fascism and massive theft of national wealth and no fascism in cuba or theft!
so, in spite of economic sancitons on cuba, invasion of it, and assassination attempts on fidel, cuba is still an egalitarian society.
but what cld some balkan people do if they cldn't blame others for what happens to them? tnx
bozh
January 2nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
malich:
"the world is at a fork in the road; there is no option to continue straight ahead. Those who have invested everything into the Empire refuse to see it"
actually supremacists, clergy at first; later joined by 'nobles' [read, please, criminals] ca 10k yrs ago have not changed their minds an iota in abcd of it.
the fork in the road or split into less-valued and more valued-people happened at the latest 10k yrs ago. and had been moving in one direction since that time: towards ever greater grip on power by a minority of people.
only china stands in the way of that telos; i.e., etern slavery-serfdom for a majority of people and mastery over them by warlords and owners of people.
china is correct in jailing all those who want to reintroduce the old interpersonal and international order into china. i wld do the same.
so, cheers to chinese communists! may their grip on power increase until they create an egalitarian society and only then let people say anything they want.
but once people taste fairness, equality, there is no way they'l give it up.
i wld not ever. and i wld use wmd against any power which wld attack my own just society! tnx
bozh
January 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
i see i got minuses for my post saying that croatia cannot please ustashe [supremacists, fascists] of bosnia. most diaspora croats support pavelic to this day.
had germany won the ww2, most likely, pavelich wld have– squeezed between serbia, hungary, and italy– lost bosnia, all littoral croatia, baranja, and mura areas,
what croatia has today is mainly due to croat partizani; overwhelimng number of which came from italian-occupied croatian seaside areas.
my home town lost 1k youths in the resistance to the fascist italy. and marko perkovic thompson sings praises to these fascists.
however, istrians wld not allow him to sing his songs there!
good for them! tnx
Suvorov
January 2nd, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Bozh belongs to a widespread category of Croats who, while pretending to condemn the ustashe, adopt all their arguments and excuses for committing their horrendous crimes. Perhaps bozh is following his idol Josip Broz, who while posing as a Communist and internationalist, went to the Vatican to give his masters assurances and to plot against the very nation that fought him into power. He likes to accuse Serbs of nationalism but would not admit that he himself supports an extreme nationalist agenda.
theothercanada
January 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 am
The Father and LITERAL creator of former state in the Balkans was Woodrow Wilson, the King "uniter" aka Aleksandar was the executioner of that plan.
These are historical facts which anyone interested can find. This is not my opinion.
AH corporal's formula for keeping ex state of the so-called "south-slavs" was "weak Serbia, strong yugoslavia".
Muslims population of "boznia" was prohibited from practicing their religion, so were the Serbs.
Mr.Izetbegovic was arrested by the regime in 1947 or 8, he wasn't arrested as Stalin's supporter, those were mostly Serbs and Montenegrins.
One of the participants states he is Serb from Montenegro, he very well may be as there are Serbs from Germany for example, but the fact is that majority of Montenegrins wanted no union with Serbs or Serbia proper.
The revolt started to simmer and majority of EVERY Nation in that graveyard of Nations wanted OUT with the exceptions of the Serbs and a small minority of people born to parents from mixed marriages which were seen as career advancement in that regime.
These misconceptions are not very different from those in NA where majority still believes that Saddam Hussein was helping Mr. Bin Ladin and that Anglo-American mercenaries are protecting woman's rights, building schools and drilling water wells in Muslim countries around the world.
Truth and FACTS are hard or impossible to sell, specially when Masters need cannon fodder for their goals and agendas.
bozh
January 3rd, 2011 at 8:19 am
i do appreciate what partizani from littoral croatia have done. they also were helping 'jews' and serbs.
and of course i grant slovenes, croats, et al the right to have own countries.
i am pretending about my rejection of supremacism??
Bianca
January 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
This is unfortunately, as anger displaced. The last vestige of civil service, is the only layer — tattered and ripped —- that stands between us and the total control by non-american corporations. We need to do the opposite: demand that our taxes produce goods and services. Schools, health care, social security, roads, water, sewer, police and fire — we need them. Most large multinational companies in US today, pretending to be American, are not. They pay no taxes, use foreign tax shelters, employ workers by millions outside US — and only need US to fund more and more wars. Kosovo was perfect for Halliburton, as they built and now maintain the largest US base in Europe! Sweet! Since money is needed for THEM, they would dearly love to diminish if not destroy whatever is left of services to US. GM, Coca Cola and other foreign companies SHOULD pay taxes, have no more priviledges on US soil, no more paying for elections, and no more wars on their behalf. That would fix the economy, and create a level playing field for AMERICAN entrepreneurs, inventors and geniuses. Protect our local government, as the only thing that always worked in US, and go AMERICAN all the way!
Bianca
January 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 pm
UN may want to have Bosnia in ONE PIECE — but does not care what level of centralization the country should have. In fact, the absurd idea that the Government needs to be centralized with all functions migrating to Sarajevo is contrary to Balkans processes — decentralization and regionalization. It just proves that decentralization is more efficient. Look at the Serb Republic region of Bosnia. It is economically prospering, in spite of all the obstacles being thrown its way. Then look at the convaluted Moslem-Croat Federation, a conglomeration of layers upon layers of governance with segregated schools and impossible budgets. Without foreign aid, the "federation" would be bankrupt. Why not separate these entities, and allow the three peoples to focus on economy — not the never ending mess. Folks, decentralization and regionalization is the medicine prescribed to other Balkan countries — what is the obsession with centralizing the only thing that actually works in Bosnia.
bozh
January 4th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
i do not know of an empire that even suggested let alone worked for set up of kingdom of serbs, croats, and slovenes. the idea about uniting s. slavs in one country, arose, if i am not mistaken, in croatia.
it all may have started with croat intelligentsia believing that balkan people and peoples were descendants of illyrians. so, why shdn't they live in one country, they asked?
the idea, self, imo, was a noble one; regardless of the fact that balkan people and peoples were admixtures of more than just illyrians and slavs.
that had been a sane idea. what they haven't seen is that any sane idea can work only among sane or well educated people or people who'd evaluate much of history as mystory; truth as nonsense, etc.
once kingdom of SHS had been established, only one cause destroyed it: supremacism; personal, ethnic, religious [cultish], linguistic, cultural, etc.
it can be now seen that no cult tolerates any other. and in that state there were three cults with enormous hatred between them.
that was another burden on unity of s.slavs. glorying in past achievements of former kings, heroes, and even a tsar had been yet another disease we did not need!
promotion of individual cult in any land is just another disease or violation of human dignity; for, if u put up anyone, u put dwn another.
meritocracy is always a cause for many of our ills. another one is grading children in schools. that's really a dastardly act.
this is what we had in balkans. and still have! all of the balkan peoples are now ruled by supremacists! they r stealing anything not nailed dwn.
i just read smwhere that 50% of romanians are nostalgic for old communist rule. slovenians, croatians also are angry with new rulers. tnx
theothercanada
January 5th, 2011 at 1:17 am
I am well aware of the facts that there are lot of things you do not know, the instruction manuals teach: "Blessed are the ignorant", you doing very well.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I'll demean myself to answer you.
Of the 55%, how many were Albanian or Bosnian Muslims? How come Montenegrins born in Montenegro but living in Serbia were barred from voting while Albanians or Bosnian Muslims living abroad weren't.
'Serbs now constitute only about 4% of Croatian pop!". First see the correction of your spelling. Second, are you proud of having ethnically cleansed Serbs?
Serbs have 49% of Bosnia, whether you like it or not. Since they owned ~63-64% of the land, I consider it as land theft. But rootless commies like you don't know what ownership of land means, what belongs to others belongs to them too, they only make an exception for what belongs to them, it belongs to only them. Even if it's been acquired through looting.
I really commend Antiwar for not having banned you in spite of your habit to flood the comments section with rants that have no connection with reality. Other people leave comments too, far more pertinent than yours for that matter, so it is really painstaking to have to scroll over yours in order to reach theirs.
And I really wonder how you fellow Croats haven't yet asked you to stop because you're really giving a bad image of them.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 5th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
You don't put a capital on your pseudo, Mr Bozidarevski, it's your problem. But when you address people or when you use a name, there is a convention in the civilised world, the first letter is a capital. People are not things. Before flooding, learn a few basic rules of savoir-vivre.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 5th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
A French language teacher in high school once proposed me, jokingly, to share her burden of correcting A-levels copies in exchange of some remuneration. I declined because, as I didn't mix with students all year long, I couldn't be capable of the same indulgence when it came to give grades.
Ok, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Juraj_Strossma…
It's a slightly different story than the one you tell, don't you think?
Translation, the Vatican realised that Austria-Hungary was a failed project, so what option was left for expansion towards the East and Russia eventually than to fool gullible dreamy Serbs into believe that South Slavs could be united under their guise.
Smart move indeed to appeal to flattery. Serbs fell for it, as most of the people in this world do regularly.
Alban
January 6th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I tend to read this website every so often. It generally provides good information with a realistic spine on the events. There is one exception though: when I read Mr. Malic's reports, it honestly makes me puke! This is for several years now. There is so much hate on him, especially towards albanians, but also toward most western policies and even values. Comments that follow here also are just along the same line. A number of hateful souls that feed themselves on Mr. Malic's comments. It looks that their time stopped centuries ago.
First I would like to urge the censors of this forum to let this comment through and be published.
Second, please read this well: albanians do not necessarily share this amount of hate towards you!
Third and the most important: please guys, find a way to get along with your neighbors. It sucks to continue like this for ever. If not for ourselves, let us get along for our kids. Let us move on.
bozh
January 6th, 2011 at 11:50 am
for serb participation in ww1, the victors rewarded serbia with ONLY [in serb eyes] vojvodina, kosovo, zemun; while boka-kotorska goes to montenegro.
they got not an inch of bosnia nor croatia, save zemun.
italy, which went to war in '14 onside of allies, claimed nearly all or even all littoral croatia, montenegro, albania, and greece.
however, with setup of the state of shs, serbs now possessed de facto much or all of bosnia and much of croatia.
as per serb proclamation even before emancipation from ottomans, serbia got what it wished for. and not a shot fired for it.
serb leaders weren't stupid. facts which i have just posited, lead to a firm conclusion that serb leadership knew what it was doing.
it gained [in]direct control of vast lands.
problems accrued to serbs only because some serbs [chetniks-royalists] wanted direct control of newly-acquired lands.
problem for chetnik's dream [and everybody else's nightmare] was in the fact that serbia cld never defeat hungary, croatia, bosnia, or macedonia.
imo, it cld have never even defeated croatia only, let alone all others and especially not within any yugoslavia.
so it had to be first destroyed or severely made unstable. year '87 or earlier, marks beginning of the end of tito's yugoslavia.
as i have already noted, italy claimed e. adriatic for self. it bitterly opposed forming of a new balkan state. obviously, strong yugoslavia wld have ended any hope for it to obtain e. adriatic lands.
italian ww1 allies had not rewarded italy with the lands they wanted. as to why, perhaps some other time!
that's why italy joined germany in ww2. and it did occupy the entire e.adriatic coast. however, slovenes, croats [from coast], montenegrins, albanians, and greeks rose up massively against occupiers and italy capitulates sept '43; mostly because
of partisan resistance.
it is true, or historians tell us, that AH had been settling volksdeutscher or schwaben in hungary, vojvodina, and romania.
i think one of the causes for resettlement of germans had been the fact that ottomans waged wars against hungary; winning battles against it and croatia.
some people fled, others died, still others taken away as captives to turkey.
however, after the siege of vienna had been broken in 1683 and subsequent victories by AH empire against turks, much depopulated areas were repopulated.
interesting, how did serbs manage to settle in vojvodina? when it did not ever belong to serbia until '18.
were they, along turks, waging wars against hungary? tnx
peacelover
January 6th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
This is an interesting phenomenon that Alban exibits in his comment. Namely, all the thieves and thugs after steeling, usurping reposesing someons properity are pleading for peace, calm, tranquilty, friendship and so on, so that illigall reward stays with them. It is the altimate virtue that Christianity professes to show love to those that are nailing you on the cross. I guess Mr. Malic has not acheived that yet. If you want to blame him for that, go right ahead.
Alban
January 6th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
So much for your "name", p-e-a-c-e-l-o-v-e-r !! Your comments just do not much it! I could go ON AND ON and say that "others" (you know who) did treat albanians for decades as second class citizens, never allowed them to be on their own republic (even though they were greater in numbers than other so call republics), killed them, incarcerated them, torched their homes, put them in massive graves, ethnic cleansed them multiple times….. Some hatemongers say KOSOVA is lost…. and will fight to get it back. You do not loose something you never really had. Kosova is a better place for anyone as long as they respect the kosovars in their own home. Albanians lost more than anyone else over the centuries being usurped and pushed aside. That is why they would cherish pace more than anything. Yet the intention of my message here is that lingo will only continue the chain of hate messages, and perpetuate the centuries old excuses why you are "bad" and I am "good" and vice versa. Please guys, there is another way to live life!!!! If you do not like my message, fine, so be it. But my goal here is not to accuse, not to complain, not to scream nationalism, not to spread hate. I am appealing to your brain and not to your instincts! There is no way anyone will EVER turn this around as long as people approach these issues with this much hate, as Mr Malic!!!!!!!
Alban
January 6th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
I am appealing to your brain, and not to your instincts. Maybe to that rational part of your brain that made you choose peacelover as a name instead of arkanlover or albanianhater. Hopefully you can manage somehow to reply back with that part next time, if ever.
Peter RV
January 9th, 2011 at 9:59 am
"Why there was a Christmas uprising in Montenegro which was brutally put out by Serbian forces .."
This is straight out of the 'Duklja' mithology on which the present day montenegrin separatism is built.
That 'famous uprising' was a very short -lived and unsignificant event, quickly put down by Montenegrins who were for union with Serbia. There were no more than twenty victims between both sides-and there was not a single soldier from Serbia participating in it. In fact, no army existed at that moment , the 'fight' was strictly on a clan level. My father was participating in those events. (Sorry chap, next time, get better informed)
jack
January 9th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
wow is that an all tyme record for feedback or what aka 1 charged "issuu,without reading the whole lot,did anyone mention Germany (NAZI) or Hungry-Austria (EMPIRACIAL),as it turns out Croatia is holding major mineral deposits,quit blaming eachother,ourselves,were making it to easy,,,,well that and death to vampires,wwl,wwll,and well that,& the holy archiac primative riech in monolyths and runnes,,, loseres,once,twice du i hear three 3 tymes