The show trial of former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic continued on March 1 before the Hague Inquisition, but also in the media. Both in the West and in the Muslim world, Karadzic and the Bosnian Serbs have been convicted by the press of vilest atrocities long ago. One could almost feel the frustration of the commentators and reporters that there even has to be a trial in the first place, so strong are their convictions about Karadzic and the Bosnian War. Evidence? Facts? True believers need no such things. Nor do the Hague prosecutors, apparently.
Challenging Cherished Myths
Reading through the coverage of the trial inevitably reveals that reporters and editors aren’t so much telling what happened in the courtroom, but trying to argue with Karadzic’s defense. Take, for example, Ian Traynor of the Guardian, who "reports" from the trial as if he were the prosecutor rebutting Karadzic’s opening statement. Other journalists took a similar approach, typically presenting the accusations as indisputable facts then saying that Karadzic "denied" war crimes.
He did, in fact, challenge the Official Truth about several key episodes of the Bosnian War, saying that there was no genocide in Srebrenica, and that Sarajevo was divided rather than besieged. The Bosnian Muslims, he argued, used civilian buildings as fortifications, and often shot at their own people for propaganda purposes. Moreover, he also claimed the war was a result of Muslim desire to establish dominion over all of Bosnia, driven by a radical Islamic agenda. He says he has evidence to back all of this up. If he does, that is more than the prosecutors, the Tribunal itself, or the media have produced so far.
Consider a feature (video) by Al-Jazeera reporter Rageh Omar, which opened with the images of the grieving Muslims at the Srebrenica memorial and a video montage implying that the Bosnian Serb forces rounded up eight thousand or more Muslim civilians and executed them in broad daylight. Yet actual forensic evidence has found around 3800 bodies, 3600 of which were men aged 15 to 65 — legal age of conscription into the Bosnian (Muslim) Army. And less than five hundred had blindfolds or bindings, indicating executions. But the ICTY and the media continue to claim that the Serbs killed eight thousand people, and declare this to be genocide, based on questionable testimonies and badly mishandled evidence.
A Different Tune
The very same day Karadzic appeared in a Hague courtroom, one of his former adversaries was detained at Heathrow airport. Ejup Ganic, once the right hand of Muslim leader Alija Izetbegovic who styled himself the "vice-president" of Bosnia, was arrested by British police acting on a Serbian warrant.
Belgrade is charging Ganic with responsibility in the May 1992 ambush of the retreating Yugoslav Army column in Sarajevo. The crumbling federal army had made a deal with Bosnian and Macedonian authorities to depart unhindered. Izetbegovic’s forces violated that deal, and the resulting massacres of retreating Army columns ensured the bitter enmity of many Army officers, who then joined Karadzic’s nascent military.
One would think, then, that an opportunity to examine these events in a court of law would be greeted with enthusiasm by the politicians and the press that keep talking about the need for "justice, truth and reconciliation" in the Balkans. Yet the response in the very same media that have covered the Karadzic trial with so much zeal and emotion this week has been completely different when it came to Ganic.
The Economist, for example, dismissed the ambush as a matter of "forty rifles" and bemoaned the damage allegedly done to "Serbia’s attempts to rejoin the European fold" by "dragging up the past." Others focused not on what Ganic may or may not have done back in the 1990s, but on the "tensions" and "muddled ties" his arrest may cause, "feeding Balkans hysteria" in a year when Bosnia is having a general election.
What are they implying, that the Karadzic trial has no effect on Balkans relations, or tensions or ties? That the incessant propaganda about the Serbs as genocidal aggressors is good, perfectly normal and desirable while a mere mention that a Muslim could have been responsible for an atrocity is a cause for panic? Talk about a partisan press…
Just Cause?
The Tribunal and the media maintain that the Bosnian Serbs, and Karadzic as their leader, sought to occupy Bosnia and destroy Croat and Muslim populations as part of some grand conspiracy to create an ethnically pure "Greater Serbia." Even a cursory look at the facts indicates that these charges are absurd. Alija Izetbegovic never denied being an Islamic revolutionary. He openly stated that he would "sacrifice peace for a sovereign Bosnia." Karadzic may have mishandled the Bosnian Serb war effort, both strategically and tactically, but there is no doubt that it was the Muslims who sought dominion over the Serbs and Croats, not the other way around.
One of the things Karadzic said in his opening statement was that the Bosnian Serb cause was "just and holy." He didn’t actually call the war itself holy — though the distinction escaped many reporters. ICTY translations have been notoriously unreliable. For example, a phrase attributed to Karadzic — "marble evidence" — does not actually exist in Serbian. He could have called evidence concrete, but never marble. So it isn’t surprising that Karadzic’s description of his "holy" cause — freedom from a Muslim government bent on dominance — is being miscast as some sort of crusade. The Tribunal and the media have twisted words before.
Exercise in Futility
Given that the countries sponsoring the Tribunal have also played a major role in supporting Izetbegovic’s drive for a centralized Bosnian state – before, during and after the war — and occupying a portion of Serbia to carve out an "independent," ethnically cleansed "state" of Kosovo, there is no chance of Radovan Karadzic getting anything even remotely resembling a fair trial. Too much political capital has been invested in the Bank of Collective Serbian Guilt for the investors to admit the error of their ways now.
But the persecution of Radovan Karadzic and other Serb leaders isn’t going to help the Empire any. Least of all will it inspire gratitude in the Muslim world, a goal several policymakers have openly alluded to in the past. Back in the 1990s, to an Empire in search of a cause it seemed like a no-brainer: claim a "genocide" through hysterical propaganda about the evil Serbs slaughtering innocent Muslims, step in to save the day, and emerge as a knight in shining armor. Over and over the Western leaders, from Bill Clinton to Tony Blair, have repeated this trope. The world’s Muslims didn’t buy it. Instead, the Muslim public opinion chose to regard the West as an evil, conniving force that stood idly by and watched the slaughter.
Ironically, that was one of the major talking points of the whole hysterical propaganda effort.
Read more by Nebojsa Malic
- Return to the Fold – January 26th, 2012
- Tides of Darkness – January 6th, 2012
- Fallout – December 23rd, 2011
- EUphoria – December 9th, 2011
- Sixteen Candles – November 24th, 2011





TheRomaniac
March 6th, 2010 at 7:44 am
There is no way of stopping this sharade is there? I wonder what did Milosevic had to say in his final arguments that they had to kill him before he got the chance to present the?
I wonder who knows and whether they'll ever have a revelation and find the courage to tell us.
TheRomaniac
March 6th, 2010 at 7:46 am
charade , that is
Suvorov
March 6th, 2010 at 8:25 am
One may almost suspect they arrested Ganic only to fuel more anger against Serbia, as we hear phrases such as "distraction form the 'real' trial" (of Karadzic, of course-Suvorov) or "attempt to equate the aggressors with the defenders of Bosnia". Also, it is curious that those who accuse Serbia of unwillingness to move on are the ones who nearly exploded from righteous condemnation of Serbia's past (,present, and future) when Karadzic was arrested 14 years after the war ended.
MichaelKenny
March 6th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Once again, the Nebojsa Malic "franchise" shoots itself in the foot! The article argues that journalists are unreliable (and I agree!). "Malic" is supposed to be a … journalist. Ergo …! By the way, the Muslim world regards the US as evil, not because of anything in ex-Yugoslavia, but because of Israel.
Zemoralist
March 6th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
You are 6 hours late this time.
paleo
March 6th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
I really don't see what's wrong with this article. It nicely connects the Ganic affair and Karadzic's trial to highlight the hypocrisy and lies concerning the history of the Yugoslav collapse.
You are absolutely right that the attempt to feed Bosnia/Kosovo as a morsel of appeasement to the Muslim crocodile was a colossal failure. That part of the world (the Balkans) is of concern only to Muslims who are *already* convinced of Muslim victimhood, and contrary to Western intents, radical Muslims perceive the Serbs/Croats as representatives of a Western crusade against Muslims, rather than an example of NATO "saving" Muslims.
Having spent time in Muslim areas of the Indian subcontinent, not one Muslim I spoke to knew anything about Yugoslavia, but EVERYONE (even not particularly educated people) mentioned Israel-Palestine and Iraq and knew about these places as sites of Muslim victimhood.
Nick
March 6th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
I cannot understand why AntiWar.com keeps on publishing "journalistic" crap by Malic. There is absolutely no credibility in his "arguments" and he continusoulsy deforms of the facts. Just because "West" is racist and facist doesn't mean that that somehow excuses genocide that Serbs have perpetrated against Bosnian Muslims. The west actually gave the genicidal serbs 3-4 years to kill as many Bosnian Muslims. Despite all the help serbian genocidal maniacs were receiving form the US-UK-France-Germany and Israel they still couldn't finish job and West got angry at them.
When Bosnian Muslims and Crots starting liberating Bosnia from serbian facists and colonizers, the west suddenly got interested and saved the "republica crpcka" genocidal enthity created on the etnically-cleansed territory. Karadzic should receive the death penalty.
paleo
March 6th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
The Muslim plurality in Bosnia is a fact built on genocide. The genocide of Croatian and Bosnian Serbs was essential for Muslims to later overturn the Serb plurality prior to WWII. And Muslims took part in this genocide all over Bosnia, and even in some cases in Croatia. The extensive collaboration of Muslims in the Ustase is well known.
There was no genocide in the 1990s. Many massive atrocities, yes. Atrocities on all sides, yes. Numerically speaking more atrocities by the Serbs in Bosnia than by the Croats or Muslims, yes. But no genocide.
Republika Srpska is the only are outside of Serbia and Montenegro where Serbs were NOT cleansed. They were cleansed from Kosovo, from Croatia, and from Bosnia, amidst persecutions and mass murders that no one wants to talk about. The fact that Republika Srpska, which WAS created on the basis of expulsion and atrocity, is the only region in which others did not manage to wipe out the Serbs, is unfortunately a realpolitik justification of that sort of policy, because areas in which the Serbs were not militarily strong enough to hold power were cleansed of their Serb populations.
Croatia wiped out 2/3 of the Serbs and refuses to allow refugees to return. Kosovo run by the Albanians has done the same and the remaining Serbs are huddled in ghettos and enclaves. The Muslim-Croat Federation had 430,000 Serbs wiped out of it in 1992-1995. Of those, ~130,000 fled Sarajevo due to the Dayton peace accords and the other 300,000 were viciously expelled amidst a reign of Muslim-Croat terror.
paleo
March 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
For people who speak Serbian interested in seeing a bit of Karadzic's opening statement, they may access that here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW0VAmvYwIs
I make no judgment on Karadzic's guilt, but I do feel that someone should answer for all the atrocities against Muslims and Croats in Bosnia. Whether that is Karadzic at the top or more local individuals who were more directly involved, I cannot say.
On the other hand, I think the opening statement is a strong one and sets forth a very strong argument regarding Alija's plans in Bosnia. The evidence regarding Alija's conviction at the Sarajevo court in 1983 is eye-opening, as are Alija's and Tudjman's communications on wiping out 1.5 million Serbs out of Bosnia. Surprisingly, Alija is the more radical one, saying they'll slaughter the Serbs, whereas Tudjman tells him that's impractical and that the Muslims should stick with Croatia and the Serbs will eventually leave.
Furthermore, the names of the Muslims at the nucleus of this plan are given: Alija Izetbegovic, Hasan Cengic, and Omer Behmen. Hasan Cengic and Rasim Delic appear to be most intimately involved in the transportation of Muslim fighters to Bosnia, with Hasan Cengic having spent a great amount of time during the war in Turkey and Iran.
Nick
March 6th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
The level of serbian arrogance and ignorance is unprecedented. Only those who lived with them and around them can understand the level of maniacal genocidal state of mind of serbian fascists and supremacists. Even when the serbs were murdering innocent and defenseless Muslim women and children cerbc were complaining how they are not “understood” and how others are only jealous of them. Reminds me of other “God-chosen people” – Israelis and US Republicans. Just like them serbs have no decency, no humility and almost no other quality that makes humans – human. serbs will always live in their deep-seated hatred of everyone else. The whole miserable Serbian history is created of lies and exaggerations.
Nick
March 6th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
I am really surprised why respected Antiwar.com keeps on posting intellectual garbage and lies of Mr. Malic. This author has deep-seated hatred of anything non-serbian. He is trying to justify serbian genocides of Bosnian Muslims, Albanians, Croats, etc. The facts are so clear and numerous. Then is a desperate move to discredit Bosniak liberation war he is trying to connect them to "extremism". In this way he is aligning himself with the same US and UK cowards that are dropping bombs and killing innocent civilians worldwide. Yet in the same time Mr. Malic hates those same countries that have bombed Serbia, after serbia failed to succeed in eliminating Bosnian and Kosova Muslims. USA, UK, France and Germany will never forgive serbia and serbs for failing in this easy mission – murdering defenseless Muslim population in Bosnia and Kosova.
paleo
March 6th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Nick, you need some re-education in your hatred. Na Drini Grobnica:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPNdV9P44LA
Is just one online video about the vicious murders of hundreds of Serbs in the upper Drina, around Gorazde. Considering the fact that upper Drina was predominantly Serb held, you can only guess how much more horrific the conditions were in central Bosnia, Tuzla, Zenica, Sarajevo, Mostar, etc.
This was a brutal, vicious, civil war with atrocities on all sides. You are lying with your attempts to claim genocide or that the Muslims, Croats, and Albanians didn't perpetrate vile acts. Shame on you.
Nick
March 6th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Paleo or should I call you "butcher from Pale". Were you one of the cerbian cowards attacking Sarajevo and now you received US citizenship for your "heroic accomplishments". It wouldn't surprise me. I know serbs and there infinite lies good enough not to thrust them one word. Despicable serbians are fully willing and trying to turn things around by 180 degrees and justify almost anything – something that Bush&Blair and similar garbage could only do. What can one even say to serbs. Wasn't the UN arms embargo on Bosnia that your "brothers" in USA, UK, France, Germany, and Russia served you with and made sure you got all the weapons from the facist and racist former-JNA (Yugoslav Army) enough to finish off defenseless Muslim civilians? But knowing the legendary serbian incompetence and stupidity even that wasn't enough. So your masters in USA and UK could only give you half of Bosnia – a genocidal entity that had absolutely no historical rational.
Nick
March 6th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
The arrest of Dr. Ganic is a typical british plot. Those same brits that have ACTIVELY directly and indirectly supported serbian genocide of Bosnian Muslims are now playing games and giving cerbia additional 6 days to come up with "evidence". Well why wasn't previous 14 years enough to gather "evidence". Britain just wants to intimidate Ganic and Bosnians. It was a HUGE mistake that Bosnia didn't charge UK with genocide after the war. Incompetent Bosnian politicians were easily bought by few thousand dollars and empty promises and historical chance was lost – to bring Great Britain in front of the International War Crime tribunal – something that was long overdue. Bosnia should now expel british ambassador and request John Major and other british officials to be tried in Bosnia for complicit in genocide against Bosnian Muslim and Catholic population 1992-1995.
paleo
March 7th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Nick:
No, paleo means ancient in Greek, a language I like and respect. I was born in the US, a child during the Bosnian war.
Since you're talking about Sarajevo (I am surprised you are not ashamed to bring it up). My father's best friend was kidnapped and killed there by Muslims. He was a civilian and a Montenegrin who didn't even really consider himself a Serb, btw.
The crimes perpetrated against Serbs in Sarajevo are well known. The Kazani pits were just one of the places where Serb bodies were dumped, burned, treated with acid, etc. Nobody was punished for this. Musan Topalovic/Caco, Juka, Celo, etc. were the killers and none were punished.
On Kazani:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVQEeyKacZY
On Sarajevo killings of Serbs (over 3000 murdered there by Muslim thugs):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUEQaBvFpX0
Nick
March 7th, 2010 at 1:17 am
I see that you are a little serbian idiot who gladly accepted lies from your parents. There were scattered crimes against serbs, no one doubts that, but at least it was 3-orders of magnitude less than the crimes that serbs committed against Muslims. Did your parents teach you the FULL TRUTH or just to hate all non-serbs? That is why many of you serbs found good home in USA where hatred, dehumanization, and demonization of others is perfected. Welcome to America where dreams come true as long as you are asleep. Should I tell you about my best friend that was killed by Serbian sharpshooter or my uncle who died because he couldn’t get the necessary medicine because of Serbian blockade or the 14-year old beautiful daughter of my cousin that was killed by serbian shell from Pale. How about my unarmed first cousin who was killed already at the beginning in 1992 by chetniks (read: Serbian cowards). Just shut up you little moron!!! You are not doing yourself a favor growing in hate. I see that people like you continue the century old serbian tradition of spewing hate. That is why you serbian people are dysfunctional genocidal maniacal thugs.
Nick
March 7th, 2010 at 1:27 am
Paleozoik, cerbian moron, as far as I know Celo, Juka and others were ultimately killed by Bosnian Army and security forces. The cerbian criminals were on the other side celebrated as heroes of the “God-chosen” cerbian people. Arkan was “god-like” figure among cerbians for killing old Muslim women and children. Talking about serbian “courage”. That tells you enough!
The beginning of the war was chaotic and no one knew which serbian in Sarajevo would suddenly pull the gun out and start killing Bosnian Muslims (as many serbs did exactly that). Maybe your father wanted to kill some Muslim civilians too, but was prevented and had to flee to US. Good for Bosnia!!!
Nick
March 6th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
I cannot understand why AntiWar.com keeps on publishing "journalistic" crap by Malic. There is absolutely no credibility in his "arguments" and he continusoulsy deforms of the facts. Just because "West" is racist and facist doesn't mean that that somehow excuses genocide that Serbs have perpetrated against Bosnian Muslims. The west actually gave the genicidal serbs 3-4 years to kill as many Bosnian Muslims. Despite all the help serbian genocidal maniacs were receiving form the US-UK-France-Germany and Israel they still couldn't finish job and West got angry at them.
When Bosnian Muslims and Crots starting liberating Bosnia from serbian facists and colonizers, the west suddenly got interested and saved the "republica crpcka" genocidal enthity created on the etnically-cleansed territory. Karadzic should receive the death penalty.
paleo
March 7th, 2010 at 1:59 am
They killed the Muslim war criminals to cover up their crimes. Not that the Hague would ever indict them. Only Serbia has the political will to do so. I hope the people who ordered the massacre of JNA people in Tuzla are also apprehended and punished. As well as all Muslim Serb-killing and Croat-killing thugs.
Only the Muslims who ran the Celebici detention camp for Serbs have been prosecuted. There were many hundreds of Muslim camps for Serbs and Croats in Bosnia and the people who ran them need to be punished. No punishment for Vitkovici in Gorazde, for Viktor Bubanj in Sarajevo, etc.
Arkan is not a "god like" figure for me, but a war criminal. Just like Milan Lukic, the monster who murdered hundreds of Visegrad Muslims. Unlike you, I am consistent in my condemnation of mass murderers.
My father is not from Sarajevo. His mother was a Slovenian doctor who in WWII lost her brother (also a doctor) due to a Muslim collaborator and traitor in the town of Prijepolje, in Sandzak, Serbia. Her Jewish husband was killed by the Germans. My father's father was a Serb who was nearly killed by Germans and Bulgarians several times in WWII. Both my grandmother and grandfather were partisans and both fought against Bali Kombetar, Islamofascist, and Ustasa thugs in Kosovo, Bosnia, and Croatia. My grandmother did not live to see it again, but my grandfather did live to see those fascists come back to the fore.
My father's best friend, who was killed in Sarajevo by Muslim thugs, was a Montenegrin who actually disliked Serbs. He was friends with many Muslims. He lied to my dad that his wife was a Croat and only after we met her did she tell us she was actually a Serb. His wife and son fled to Serbia with him, but he went back to Sarajevo to get some belongings and was never again seen. His wife and son later found out that he was killed and that Muslims took over their apartment. Even though he was a Montenegrin, even though he disliked Serbs and liked Muslims, even though he was a civilian, he was still abducted and killed.
The only person that suddenly started killing people in Sarajevo was Celo, who performed the first atrocity of the war when he shot dead the groom's father at the wedding procession in Bascarsija in front of the Orthodox church on March 1, 1992. Nikola Gardovic's crime was waving a Serb Orthodox flag in Sarajevo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkr1L1Mtf2Y
Sarajevo Muslim terror over the Serbs of the city:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p2Xd0Far9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEoPZ2kUMpw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrEA8o9aVTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvfIy8hJeL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ3Sv9svnYw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChcU0iq6stI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz4dtY6Pf8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLm-hV9QS60
ms1
March 7th, 2010 at 2:39 am
Nick is mentally deranged. Not even worth commenting on his posts.
Andy
March 7th, 2010 at 2:40 am
Another fine mess America should have stayed out of…..
Suvorov
March 7th, 2010 at 4:50 am
Paleo,
Stop wasting your time.
Nick
March 7th, 2010 at 5:18 am
So this is the place where serbian chetniks found new hiding place. Together with the Mr. Malic the new "leader" of serbian scum and thugs. Maybe International court for war crimes should investigate the serbian thugs hiding and spreading lies through respectable AntiWar.com. What a parody, AntiWar.com is hosting serbian war criminals, scumbegs, and thugs wanting more blood and killing of innocent and unarmed. That is the whole serbian history – deranged nation of psychopaths.
robistar
March 7th, 2010 at 7:03 am
blah blah blah, your argument consists of lots and lots of name calling with no facts whatsoever
Nick
March 7th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Your story is full of lies and no hostorical truth. It is easy to show how wrong you are. But for a serb-lover that would be just a waste of time as you people are deranged. Now let me tell you something about the "innocent" serbian provocations: "Nikola Gardovic's crime was waving a Serb Orthodox flag in Sarajevo: while going armed through the traditional Muslim Sarajevo and singing and yelling "slaugther balije (the serbian derogatory word for Bosnian Muslims". That he was killed is an act of self-defense and completly justified under any law.
I see that you just like you gang of chetniks here have no decency (would be too much to expect from serbs). You are not consistent in anything. You are defending Karadzic and Milosevic and the facts are well known. You just refuse to accept them. FYI, read little bit what your montenegrin orthodox "buddy" Veselin Vlahovic – Batko did to Muslim and Croat Civilians in Sarajevo's Grbavica. And also what 99% serbs of Grbavica did to kill Muslims. Only an inhumane person can do that to another human being. Slaugthering 14-year child with the knife after raping her – noble Serbian methods!!!!!
Andy
March 7th, 2010 at 2:38 am
What a load of rubbish.
Nebojsa Malic
March 7th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Actually, I don't mind the drivel from "Nick". Every word from his mouth proves the points I've been making for years.
Nick
March 7th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Your "points" are the same old cerbian lunatic, nationalistic, and fascistic crap. Like Seselj's. I see that Karadzic and other cerbian war criminals are your "idols" and “heroes”. Shame on AntiWar.com for giving space to genocide sympathizer. Bosnian authorities will check your past.
MetaCynic
March 7th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Nick, if as you claim, Serbs are homicidal maniacs, genetically hardwired to loathe and kill non-Serbs, then why are so many thousands of Croats, Muslims and Albanians living unmolested in Serbia? Based on your rantings, one would expect that they would have all been cleansed or exterminated a long time ago. During NATO's bombing of Kosovo, thousands of Albanians fled to Serbia. I doubt that many Polish Jews fled to Germany when the Nazis invaded Poland in 1939.
Perhaps the ethnic enmity in the former Yugoslavia is the result of something other than racism. Could it be that the conflict in Croatia and Bosnia was caused by the inability of the historically persecuted Serbs living there to secede? If the internationally recognized borders of the former Yugoslavia can be suddenly disregarded thus allowing the individual republics to secede, then what is so sacred about the artificial administrative borders of Croatia and Bosnia drawn by the dictator Tito?
If the Croats and Bosnians can secede from Yugoslavia, then why shouldn't Serb enclaves secede from those republics? Why is secession a recognized right for Slovenians, Croats, Bosnians, Macedonians, Montenegrins and Albanians but not for Serbs, especially when they are declared to be second class citizens in Croatia and Bosnia with fresh memories of World War 2 atrocities committed against them by Croats and Muslims?
I detect whiffs of hypocrisy in your rants.
Nick
March 7th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Because Bosnia, Croatia, etc., were Republics in former YU and HAD the right to secede from YU under constitution. The same goes for Kosova. It was Milosevic who illegally overturned Kosova autonomy guaranteed by the YU constitution. Once Slovenes, Croats, Albanians, Bosniaks, etc. realized that it is impossible to live with serbia they left YU. So called "cerbian” territories in Bosnia are illegal under international law and the “Dayton” constitution does not allow that they can secede. So the difference is very simple if you have brain and intellectual honesty to LOOK into facts. But I have serious reservations about that Mr. Malic! You cannot conduct genocide and ethnically-cleanse the territory and then take it with you as “yours”. Cerbs could try to start yet another war, but this time that would be the last thing they did. Everyone in Balkans is fed up with cerbs and their fascist ideology. Cerbs and cerbia is the cancer of Balkans.
Nick
March 7th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Why would I even care what you think! You are insignificant. Go back and continue hating everything non-cerbian. It will only destroy you. Good for the planet!
Hrebeljanovic
March 7th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
You must be one of those that killed unarmed soldiers in Dobrovoljacka ulica and Tuzla convoys. Please tell us how much you enjoyed killing those cerbs.
Suvorov
March 7th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Nick,
Thank you for the free entertainment.
Andy
March 7th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Agreed.
Nick
March 8th, 2010 at 1:45 am
Hrebljanovic….We will hear stories about cerbian killing of unarmed Muslim civilians from a serbian “hero” and your "idol" Veselin "Batko" Veselinovic. You know a type that Malic and few of you pathetic losers here worship. Veselinovic is about to be extradited to Bosnia. That monster will receive such a punishment that he will regret the day he was born. Maybe you can enjoy hearing his confessions about raping 6-year old children or 80-old women. Talking about dysfunctional cerbian mentality and their state-of-mind. This says everything about who cerbs REALLY are!!! Maybe you should ask "Batko" about his experience before he is terminated for good! But hurry up!!!
MvGuy
March 8th, 2010 at 2:20 am
Nebojsa Malic certainly seems to have raised a firestorm with his latest article. It is quite a ride for me as I am rather ignorant of the finer werkings of Balkin politics… I did hitchhike through Yougoslavia in 1971. I didn't noticed any political strife or enmity on that trip. I guess I mostly got drunk with the locals and broke plates, or was that Greece? Mr. Malic does have a keen eye for the plans of the empire in things Balkan and his commentaries may have a Serb centric perspective. As far as I am concerned, the various Balkin entities can argue about who victimized whom, but is there any real argument as to who was the victim of the empire, NATO, the Americans, British Et Al… Mr. Malik is antiwar.com's reporter on the Balkin beat and without him we would most likely be oblivious to the plans of the empire in that part of the world.. As long as the comments flow unfettered, the dialog will be instructive and self correcting..
robistar
March 8th, 2010 at 2:48 am
And you are significant? For all your talk of people spreading hate, looking at all the posts so far you are the only one doing so. In fact reading your posts it is easy to see you hate all thing non-muslim
Suvorov
March 8th, 2010 at 6:14 am
I wonder under which name "Nick" will resurface to comment on your next article. Maybe "Branko Zivanovic". Will he learn to spell "Serbs" correctly by next time?
Suvorov
March 8th, 2010 at 6:16 am
He is obviously so brave, unlike those Serbs.
Nick
March 8th, 2010 at 1:31 am
The cerbian soldiers in Sarajevo were foreign army and since they refused to surrender they got what they got. Far from being unarmed. cerbs were always better armed and still managed to loose ALL wars in formet YU. Talking about incompetence! These soldiers were just typical cerbian cowards. cerbs are only good in killing defenseless and unarmed women and children. Well known and documented fact. When cerbs face men cerbs sh#$^^ in the pants! I see that this site is where cerbian genocide symphatizers gather togehter to dream about the "greater serbia". Hahahaha. You lost Kosova and even Montenegro doesn't want to be associated with you. What is next ….? The worshipers of Karadzic, Mladic, Milosevic, Seselj, Arkan, Lukic, Krajisnik, and countless other cerbian war criminals. The justice will reach all cerbian war crininals (read cowards)!!!! Enough said!
conumishu
March 8th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Where's the switch off button? Oh, there's none provided with the Nickdevice.
conumishu
March 8th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Is he genuinely infuriated or genuinely immitating a genuine fury? Not that I'm realy interested in the correct answer.
The "personal" experience again. From that to "up yours" there shouldn't be a long wait.
"Century old serbian tradition of spewing hate"… I guess Serbs are formidable adversaries then. With such good memory they could wait another hundred years until the wheel of history turns, no? Sounds veeery logical to give them lots of monkey trial(s) ammunition and global incrimination to soothe their "hate".
No, you shouldn't tell us about your best friend… ah, you already did.
conumishu
March 8th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Having a "Serb centric perspective" is absolutely natural. Admirable is the balance he tries to maintain between presenting facts in an American palatable fashion without discarding too many details while trying to offer alternative sources of information to the mainstream broken record media.
Last but not least, I appreciate his personal touch, it is both stylish and based on far more hard work than "real" journalists of these days actually do.
Hrebeljanovic
March 9th, 2010 at 1:05 am
You still didn't tell us how much you enjoyed killing cerbs, is Veselinovic next on your list? Let me guess, your real name is Husein, Mujezin, Abdulrahman…?
conumishu
March 8th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Truth's sting, is it not, Nick?
conumishu
March 8th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Where do I get my "chetnik" pay from? "Scum and thugs" don't work for free, do they? Sorry, Mr. Nick, you wouldn't know.
Also, though I'm not Serbian, I'm eager to defy the "international court". Even as a "scum & thug" I feel somehow to have the moral high ground vs that "court".
Not sure if my nation qualifies for "deranged nation of psychopaths" but I can only hope for such an honorable certificate from an authority.like Mr. Nick.
Peter
March 9th, 2010 at 4:31 am
These articles are always Ciganska Propoganda……….but the title is nice…..the show goes on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_bC_ri7WKg
God
March 9th, 2010 at 4:33 am
Nice title – the show goes on…..yes it does
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_bC_ri7WKg
justthefactsjack
March 9th, 2010 at 4:36 am
the show goes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_bC_ri7WKg
Chrissy-Hissy
March 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Why does the Western Press never mention Fikret Abdic's anti-izetbegovic moslem Bihac enclave? And how can a convicted bigot with links to Saudi whabism and 9/11 fanatics could still be described as "multiethnic" and "democratic" by CNN's laughable clown Amanpour with a straight face…?
Nebojsa Malic
March 10th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Because Abdic's very existence demolishes the story of genocidal, Muslim-hating Serbs. This is why he is locked away in a dungeon, while his followers have been scattered around the world and suppressed at home. As for the jihadist character of the Izetbegovic regime, you have to remember that the Empire doesn't consider its enemy to be jihadists as such – only specific jihadists. Brendan O'Neill explain the objective alliance between the emerging Empire and the nascent global jihadist movement, which transpired in Bosnia, in the article I link towards the end of my essay here.
Paleo
March 11th, 2010 at 3:41 am
Does anyone here know how to download youtube videos for purposes of adding translation/subtitles? There are a few videos I would like to have processed this way for English-speaking audiences and I don't have a great handle on dealing with youtube videos. I have already done the translation. Thanks
Eric Siverson
March 12th, 2010 at 1:20 am
The evil empire president Reagan talked about is gone . I again first noticed the evil again when it destroyed Yugoslavia . So evil can move from east to west maybe north to south .
Eric Siverson
March 12th, 2010 at 1:46 am
Does anyone know what happend to Fredrick Abdic , A muslim that was elected president of Bosnia beating Alijia .
As I remember the story he was a highly respected by all three ethnic groupes , but somehow with the United States chosing to bomb and oppose the christain side , Abdic ended up in prison for telling the truth . Has he been released yet ? or has he been murdered like all the others opposing the nazi's ? I kid you not , there are a lot of nazis still in Bosnia and Croatia . Those countries have never been denatzified .