The speech Barack Hussein Obama gave before the UN General Assembly aimed to assure the world that the Atlantic Empire was still the world’s hegemon, strong as ever, and committed to persevere in the historical mission of ridding the world of things that weren’t nice. While meant to sound inspirational and even triumphant at times, it came off more as an attempt at self-reassurance, a plea to the world to ignore the observable reality and continue to accept the myth of Imperial omnipotence.
Meaningless Peace
Almost at the start, Obama began making excuses. He inherited the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, he said, but is about to end them "from a position of strength." Those who have to say they are strong usually are not. And though he claimed both countries will soon enjoy a "normal relationship" with the U.S. as "sovereign nations," Obama promised an "equal partnership" with Iraq and "enduring partnership" with the Afghan people – meaning that in practice, they won’t be rid of U.S. garrisons, drones, spies and bribes just yet, and maybe not ever.
So, in Empire-speak, "sovereignty" is entirely meaningless, and "partnership" means taking orders without question. File that for future reference.
The False Spring
The "tide of war is receding," Obama proclaimed. Al-Qaeda had been "degraded" and Osama bin Laden is dead. Freedom is erupting all over the world, with the "help" of Empire and its allies. In Obama’s narrative, everything is part of the inevitable historical march of "equality", from the civil wars in Ivory Coast and Libya to the "revolutions" in Tunisia and Egypt.
Never mind that the situation in Ivory Coast was not quite as simple, or that the popular revolts in north Africa all seem to have been at least partly driven by Imperial agents. Never mind that the UN authorized a no-fly zone in Libya, not a six-month bombing campaign and "regime change". Forget about the Shariah Democrats or whatever the Al-Qaeda in Libya calls itself now, having been installed in power by NATO. When facts come up against the narrative, the facts lose.
Notice also the different standards for different places. The Empire wants governments in Syria and Yemen gone, so they are told to surrender to the protesters – or else. Yet in Bahrain, a major US naval base, the Empire prefers "a meaningful dialogue that brings peaceful change that is responsive to the people" and believes " the patriotism that binds Bahrainis together must be more powerful than the sectarian forces that would tear them apart."
It’s Always 1938 in Washington
When all one has is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Having chosen to cast itself as the preventer and punisher of genocide anywhere it may happen, the Empire proceeded to find genocides everywhere. Somewhere in the world, there is always a Hitler that needs stopping. Anything else would be appeasement, no?
Obama did not use the g-word, but he did wax euphemistic that the Libyan rebels were "threatened by the kind of mass atrocity that often went unchallenged in the last century." What else was the U.S. to do but bomb for peace?
Ironic, then, that he chose to emphasize how the Libyan "liberation" was a triumph of the will ("the will of the coalition proved unbreakable"). Freudian slip? You decide.
The biggest dollop of hypocrisy was surely the claim that Libya represented a shining example for the future:
"This is how the international community is supposed to work — nations standing together for the sake of peace and security, and individuals claiming their rights."
Really? So it wasn’t really a clandestine operation gone horribly wrong, which had to be bailed out by a "kinetic military action" of bombers and special forces on the ground? Not an evil little war that was all about regime change and not in the least about the purported humanitarian concerns? Not a complete mockery of the UN? Well, then, if Obama says so, it must be true…
Balkans Standards
The portion of the Emperor’s speech concerning the Palestinian push for statehood wasn’t so much hypocritical as it was facetious.
One can find no flaw with the argument that "[u]ltimately, peace depends upon compromise among people who must live together long after our speeches are over", and that the parties involved ought to "sit down, to listen to each other, and to understand each other’s hopes and each other’s fears." These aren’t just good sound bites, they actually make sense.
Why, then, is the Empire outright ignoring these supposedly firm beliefs and convictions in places such as Bosnia, or Kosovo?
How come there is never any talk of compromise there? Why is there no concern for the hopes and fears of people the Empire commanded "must live together" in Bosnia, or those impacted by Empire’s creation of the "independent" Kosovo? Ah, but that is different – because the Empire says it is. How very Orwellian.
The Empire argued itself hoarse that Kosovo was a "unique case" and would not establish any precedents. Except it did. Could it be that the irritation with Mahmoud Abbas has less to do with Israel than with his attempt to exploit a loophole of Empire’s own making? Quod licet Iovi, etc.
Last, but not least, how come the Balkans was not mentioned in the speech at all, even though interventions there were clearly a model for the "liberation" of Libya from itself, and the current events in Kosovo had caused an acrimonious session of the Security Council just days prior?
Freedom to Obey
On and on the contradictions mount. Obama talked about nuclear disarmament, a new START treaty with Russia and the threat of Iran – but left out that the U.S. was building a ballistic missile shield (albeit one with doubtful functionality) not around Iran, but around Russia.
Similarly, while proclaiming the belief that "each nation must chart its own course to fulfill the aspirations of its people" is all fine and good, setting Washington up in practice as the ultimate arbiter of both that course and those aspirations is much less so.
The promise that the U.S. will "pursue a deeper engagement with governments, but also with civil society — students and entrepreneurs, political parties and the press" sounds downright sinister when one considers the example of Serbia, a country practically occupied by an unelected government installed by the Empire and "civil society" funded by American and European taxpayers. In Serbia, the Empire demands unquestioned obedience. That’s a mighty strange definition of "freedom".
Dangerous Delusions
Though the Emperor painted an optimistic picture of human progress, declaring that the entire world needs to band together to achieve democracy and freedom from poverty, global warming, discrimination and all the usual utopian shibboleths, his vision lacked any grounding in reality.
It is not at all clear whether events in Africa are really as connected as Obama claims, or if the only thing they have in common is Empire’s hope to direct and control them. Such a delusion would be no less dangerous than the pernicious belief in harnessing the power of Islamic jihad to achieve geopolitical goals – a belief that persists despite the proof to the contrary offered by that September morning ten years ago.
Read more by Nebojsa Malic
- The Serbian Job – May 18th, 2012
- Tyranny of Good Intentions – May 3rd, 2012
- Between Hope and Despair – April 20th, 2012
- Hunger Games – March 29th, 2012
- Reality Rift – March 9th, 2012





Joe McCarthy
September 24th, 2011 at 3:47 am
This text is a typical product of a frustrated, butthurt Serb mind. Nebojsa is pissed off because USA (or Empire, as he calls it) kicked some Serb imperialistic, expansionistic asses. If United States had backed the Serbian expansionist thrust, Nebojsa would be an imperialist cheerleader, possibyl some Serbian variety of neocon. He wouldn't care one tiney little bit about American aggressions on Iraq and Afghanistan. He would even support them (based on an anti-Muslim sentiment). Of course, USA could have never behaved in that way: it runs counter to all principles this country is based on. No responsible power can tolerate some local bully behaving in an unpredictable way, threatening regional stability and indulging in actions contrary to any civilized behaviour in war (mass killings, atrocities etc.) For USA there was no option but to intervene. Just as there was no option but to intervene in Europe against Nazi Germany (contrarily to delirious musings by Patrick Buchanan and the likes of him).
Jerr-Berlin
September 24th, 2011 at 4:12 am
Frankly, it was a brilliant article…to "Joe McCarthy"…where in the hell do you live? and have lived lately?
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MvGuy
September 24th, 2011 at 6:37 am
Yaa Joe….. "No responsible power can tolerate some local bully behaving in an unpredictable way" Oh yeah, who wooda thought Kadaffi would try to quell an insurrection in the oil part of his OWN country… Go friggin figure… Gadaffi's GOLD………… An all that oil…… to Lube US up for "0's" next election and the pain of his re-penetration [sorry, re-election]….of our body politic… with his Empire Erection 'n' tired retread lies and joke promises… Who's Gold is it now…?? Who's oil will it be then…Joe..?? [So Joe, Why did the U.S. attack Iraq ...??] If only the jingoistic Joes of America would pay for all the folly… but, NO… They are the low tax boys…
MvGuy
September 24th, 2011 at 6:53 am
"It’s Always 1938 in Washington…." The day the spotlight went on for the show the Neocons now parrot…
I heard a story about a pot smuggler on bail…. He goes with his lawyer to meet the prosecutor about a plea deal… They posture and wrangle on and on…. the prosecutor offers 7 years…. for him to consider… They all stand up, shake hands, and then the prosecutor asks the guy what time it is, he pulls up his sleeve to look at his watch….. and the prosecutor says, we are seizing your Rolex too.
"a belief that persists despite the proof to the contrary offered by that September morning ten years ago"
The Hawk
September 24th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Great article, well said. Plus bonus laughs from reading comment by Joe McCarthy.
MichaelKenny
September 24th, 2011 at 7:10 am
I can't help chuckling at this author presenting himself as the defender of Kosovo and Bosnia. That, along with the ritualistic claim that Serbia has "an unelected government installed by the Empire", could best be described as "Leo Strauss reality" ! But it is true that the still-ongoing ex-Yugoslav fiasco will probably be remembered as the first of the series of blunders which brought the Empire down. Because the Yugoslav intervention failed so miserably, Europe was reluctant in regard to Afghanistan, hostile in regard to Iraq and Iran was the bridge too far. In Lybia, Europe decided to take command, dragging a reluctant Obama into the fight kicking and screaming. And Libya turning into yet another "fine mess" is making European leaders war weary. Having failed to install "stooges" in Israel's near abroad and with the European "stepping-stone" increasingly fed up with US adventures, the Empire has really lost its purpose.
Roger Lafontaine
September 24th, 2011 at 7:18 am
He said that 'the tide of war is receding…' If you look closely you will find that the 'tide of war' depends almost entirely on what the US is doing both in war and in CIA intelligence(secret back-stabbing).
MvGuy
September 24th, 2011 at 8:03 am
“Actually, whether the United Nations recognizes Palestine as a country will not change much for us on the ground who suffer day-to-day under strict Israeli occupation. And the half million illegal Israel settlers who live in East Jerusalem and the West Bank already take up more than the 50% of this little 22% that the president of Palestine is making an appeal to be recognized for independence . While we are struggling to maintain our presence here, it’s not easy with the water being shut off twelve straight days in a row while you know the illegal Israeli settlements have water twenty four hours a day and seven days a week. It’s heartbreaking when parishioners of St. George Church could not get permits to celebrate the holy days for the Mother of God in Jerusalem in August but illegal Israeli settlers move around and use bypass roads to get into and out of Jerusalem as often as they wish.
“The injustice and prejudice here run so deep; I am a bit surprised that President Obama does not know about it. Please make a difference and know that Palestinian people seek a just peace and basic human dignity. Blind support with hard working American tax payers’ money to Israel should stop.”
Jimmy Carter knows…… Its APARTHEID… APARTHEID… APARTHEID… APARTHEID… APARTHEID… !!!!!!!
MvGuy
September 24th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Perhaps "the Empire has really lost its purpose" is the reason for Lybia… Throw a bone to the French for being "so supportive" …… Hey what happened to the Freedom Fries.. but I find your seemingly ever-ongiong criticism of Nebojsa Malic to be tiring… Easy for those who have NOT been dismembered to tisk.. tisk at those who carry that cross resentfully…. and petty for their lack of gleefully submission… Oh, I know… It's a conspiracy theory that wonderful America would plot any Balkan mischief against Serbia…
Terrance&Philip
September 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Freedom and recognition for Israel, for Kosovo, for South Sudan but, because our masters in Tel Aviv don't want it, no freedom, no recognition for Palestine.
It's embarassing to watch America's "leaders" lick their Israeli masters hands.
andy
September 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
The USA didn't have to back anybody. All it had to do was just mind its own business and it couldn't even do that.
Suvorov
September 24th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
"Of course, USA could have never behaved in that way: it runs counter to all principles this country is based on."
Actually, USA were founded on the principles of non-interventionism, unequivocally advocated by the Founding Fathers.
Jovan M.
September 24th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Where he lives is irrelevant. You can easily see that he leaves out articles in his grammar. Example: "Of course, USA could have never behaved in that way." A native English speaker would have written "the USA could have never behaved in that way" – actually, a native English speaker probably wouldn't have phrased it like that in the first place.
My guess is that he is a "Bosniak" or a Croat—Sorry, just noticed that you put his name in quotes ("Joe McCarthy") so I guess you already made the connection.
Roque Santa Cruz
September 24th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
I just cant wait for Russia or China to invade any country under false pretext.
Roque Santa Cruz
September 24th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
………………or albanian
Julius Fucik
September 25th, 2011 at 6:55 am
"No responsible power can tolerate some local bully behaving in an unpredictable way, threatening regional stability and indulging in actions contrary to any civilized behaviour in war (mass killings, atrocities etc.)"
it does not take a psychiatrist to see that (aside from the previous hypothetical and ungrounded assertions in the post), we have here an expression of the prevalent practice–casting its own image and projection on someone else and then declaring that there is no other option then to fight that "bully," the carrier of one's projected image.
"For USA there was no option but to intervene. Just as there was no option but to intervene in Europe against Nazi Germany …"
Really? The USA intervened and opened the second front in Europe only in June 1944, when the Red Army threatened to win the war in Europe all by itself, having engaged between 75-90% of all the German forces. What was the US doing for the previous 4 years of the war in Europe despite its enormous capacities?
rosemerry
September 25th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
AS usual, Serbia is demonised and mocked. Try a few books such as Diana Johnstone's "Fool's Crusade" to get a bit of balance. The Germans started this demonising process as soon as they were reunited, and it was Serbia, almost alone among eastern European lands, who fiercely fought Nazism and were brutally treated by the Nazis. The "democratic West" seems to forget that.
rosemerry
September 25th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
I agree with Roque and Jovan.
Bianca
September 25th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Joe, Joe. Are you lost! But not so lost as to miss an opportunity to blame Serbs for "anti-Muslim" sentiment! And really, "US could have NEVER behaved this way…". Nobody can say this with straight face.
If your objective is to paint anything Serbian as "anti-Muslim", you will not succeed. People's of Balkans are perrenial targets of every nascent Empire. Empires are drawn to it like a moth to a flame.
Go study Rwanda , for example. Just look up Wikipedia. You will find that the people who started the slaughter were Tutsies, stationed in Uganda camps with the help of then Clinton administration. Their leader was then being trained in US. He was transported to Uganda by US. The same group, then embarked on a THREE month killing spreee, ending with the capture of the capital. The SAME LEADER IS STILL THE PRESIDENT OF RWANDA. But US created a narrative in which it was Tutsies that were the victims of genocide, and if you believe the narrative, the entire Tutsie population was killed several times over — and still managed to drive nearly entire Hutu population out into jungles and God forsaken refugee camps in nearby Congo. Orwell on steroids.
Bianca
September 25th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
The melodrama, the adjectives. But this time, there is a bonus of "Leo Strauss reality"! Now, that is a find. The "Leo Straussian' MichaelKenny is blaming others for being — Leo Straussian! Strauss did not live long enough to understand the power of Internet. So, keep on with the wealth of verbal diarrhea. Europe was "reluctant" in regard to Afghanistan? Hostile in regard to Iraq? In Libya, Europe decided to take command, dragging a "reluctant" Obama kicking and screaming? Sorry, dude — Secretary Clinton wore down several sets of pantsuits travelling to European capitals to kick them into acting as a front. Germany did not care to play along.
Empires have only one purpose — power. And not being able to flex it is a mortal threat. Europe has been bled dry by the same imperial adventures via banking derivatives that US issued, and European banks bought. Now that they are not worth paper they are printed on, somebody has to pay for the imperial bills.
Roque Santa Cruz
September 25th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
lets not forget russia lost around 20 million soldiers, more than germany. that alone tells the tale of who really fought during second world wars. living in the western world makes you believe that the allies (US, France, England) did everything.
Julius Fucik
September 25th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Speaking of "Straussian reality": In the Natural Right and History, Strauss spoke in 1953 of the paradox of World War II: "As much as the United States may have vanquished Germany on the battlefield and annihilated it as a political entity, the conquerors would be deprived of that most sublime fruit of victory by having the yoke of German thought imposed on them thereafter. American social science, in particular, would carry the torch of German historicism by denying the natural-rights teachings of the Declaration of Independence." Strauss must have been up to something for the current neocons treat him as their last prophet.
paleo
September 26th, 2011 at 6:16 am
That and in the mainstream historical discourse there is almost no mention of the genocidal massacres perpetrated by Tutsi over Hutu in 1972 in Burundi. This didn't begin yesterday or in 1994, mind you.
Fatmir Bilali
September 28th, 2011 at 2:24 am
Serbies haven't yet learned the lesson. That's why seven ofn them were wounded yesterday in a short clash with NATO forces. Next time there will be dead Serbs. They must finally learn they have to shut up and accept reality.
Julius Fucik
September 28th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Speaking of a fascist scum … they do exist.; here goes one As we can see their (and their NATO-supported) cause has nothing to do with any "humanitarian" reason or with any democracy, for that matter. Bilali deserves to be cited and to become a memento and a reminder of what must be resisted.
Janez
September 29th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Serbs are former occupiers and oppressors of the entire area from Vardar to Triglav. Now they deserve some punishment for that.
Wolf
October 1st, 2011 at 6:07 pm
I don't know any Shiptar's name to be Janez.
You can't hide under any name. As Serbs to be
oppressors, you are ridiculous. Looked who benefited
from Triglav to Vardar grace to Serbs. All these little
tribes never had anything of their own. Show me what
you Shiptars contributted to humanity- literature, science
or anything else to that effect?
Julius Fucik
October 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
The nameJanez seems to indicate a Slovenian (hence also the reference to Triglav). A sad and tragic story of some of the Slavs who grew fond of licking the goose-stepping boots–converted janissaries who don't mind knifing their brothers.
Wolf
October 1st, 2011 at 11:02 pm
The Shiptars sometimes hide under unlikely pseudos…….
Janez
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 am
I am Slovenian. I found this website accidentally, read some of the bullshit written by Nebojsa Malic (got interested in his writing after I read one of his texts and then proceded to google for some other of his texts) and by some of the commentators here and I am frankly appalled. Malic seems to be some kind of yugo-nostalgic (if I understood him correctly), who blames the "Empire" for the break-up of Yugoslavia. It appears as if he would like to see old Yugoslavia resurrected, with Serbs in charge and allied with Russia. It is science-fiction because other peoples of Yugoslavia don't want that and Serbia has not enough strength to achieve something like that (not even will: people who think like Malic are a minority).
We Slovenians are currently much better off than all the rest of former Yugoslavia (especially than such places like Serbia and Kosovo), have bigger purchasing power and a very vigorous middle class which enjoys in its relative welfare. We certainly don't wish to be poor and shot at by NATO soldiers, in the name of "resisting the Empire". We enjoy being part of the developed EU and NATO, we are fond of our current prosperity and security which the western alliance (ridiculously called "Empire" by Malic) offers us. Don't be fooled by occasional displays of "yugo-nostalgia" among Slovenes: it's merely a fashion, some kind of consumerist fad, comparable to western well-off middle-class youngsters wearing Che-T-shirt, as a sign of some "teenage rebellion". You can be sure that none of these well-off yugo-nostalgics wouldn't want to exchange their present-day way of life some for any scheme in which they would be poor, but proud, resisting "the Empire" along with other so-called South Slavic brethren.
Croatia is similar to us: they have similar aspirations, but haven't yet realized them up to our level, which causes some frustration among them.
If all of that makes us "lickers of goose stepping boots" or stooges of the Empire (or some other silly and worn-out cliche from the arsenal of the decadent left) – so be it. We value life and comfort, not "heroic" but futile resistance to the "empire".
On Kosovo I don't know what I should think. Probably it shouldn't have been encouraged to declare independence, but some kind of federal arrangement with Serbia should have been preferred. But then again – what's done it's done, it's irreversible and it would be better for Serbia and Kosovo to try to join the developed world than to stick to atavistic feuds.
ajax hoolan
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Nebojsa the emperor's tailor. He ends up wearing no clothing.
Julius Fucik
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Hmm. So here we have a self-declared expert on silliness, decadence, and bull***. In the last 24 hours, two Serbs were shot and killed in Kosovo. A few days earlier, ten Serb unarmed civilians were shot by NATO/KFOR with live ammunition in their backs, while retreating from one of their barricades. Now this Slovenian fellow openly says that he supports and hails such a treatment of the Serbs. And he also gives a few “reasons” of his own, which he assumes are neither “bull**,” nor “silly,” nor “decadent.” 1) “they [the Serbs] deserve some punishment ”—to have their civilians shot and killed; to this he then adds a bit more 2) this is because he is “fond of security” offered to him by the same NATO and he “enjoys” it; 3) he does not want to be “poor;” 4) he is glad that NATO is not shooting at him; he is fond of what NATO does; and, most importantly, 5) he “values life and comfort”—this must certainly mean his own life and comfort, but, in no way, the life of the Serbian civilians, for example, who, as he boldly proclaimed, “deserve some punishment.” Of course, our Janez (“hloupý Honza”) persuaded himself very easily that his rationalizations are not silly, decadent, or BS. He is smart (by his own standards) and not “silly” or “decadent,” like we are, because he is “not heroic”—“resistance to the ‘empire’ is futile,” he says. So he has figured it out. He behaves well and he proudly obediently refuses calling the power with its proper name. And he is also “frankly appalled”—he is frankly appalled that someone could be appalled at the Serbs being murdered and killed. And this means that he is not appalled a bit at how he obediently hails and supports the latest bid to finish off the ethnic cleansing of the Serbs from Kosovo. No, he would not do otherwise because, you see, he “values life and comfort” way too much. He is a smart fellow and he is too “fond” of his progressive views (in contrast to the other “atavistic” ones). And so his support for the empire, is certainly not “worn out” or “silly,” to use his own expressions—or at least not as worn out as his conscience or his soul. He “values life and comfort” too much to care otherwise.
paleo
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Janez, I am partly Slovenian (my father is half) and am frankly appalled at this attitude among Slovenes. My father was utterly disgusted with Slovenian behavior and attitudes in 1991. No wonder he considers himself a Serb now.
It was the Slovene political leadership that requested a union with Serbia in 1918 in order to avoid being annexed by Italy and Austria at the end of WWI. Serbia did not conquer Slovenia, your own political leaders requested union.
Maribor (your second largest city) was a majority German-speaking city and would have been part of Austria, by rights, were it not for Slovenia's "journey" in Yugoslavia. It is only thanks to Yugoslavia that Maribor is in Slovenia. You attained that by ethnically cleansing out the Germans and Yugoslavia was your rubberstamp for that.
As far as I remember, 100-150 thousand Slovenes (my Slovene great grandfather and his two children among them) were deported in cattle trains by Germany in 1941 and sent to Serbia. They lived as refugees throughout the war there. They were not accepted by their Slovene compatriots in un-annexed Slovenia, nor by Croatia. Serbs housed them, clothed them, fed them, even while under a brutal occupation. Why would they be obligated to do that when Serb refugees from Croatia and Bosnia were not treated so well? Wasn't Milan Kucan one of those refugees?
At the end of the war Serb partisans stationed in Bosnia (my grandfather among them, who was from Serbia) were sent to fight in Trieste so Slovenia could grab another non-majority Slovene city, this time inhabited by Italians. Slovenes were meanwhile conducting executions in Bleiburg. The Serbs failed at Trieste but thousands of lives were lost. Slovenia also attained towns like Pirano and Portorose by expelling and murdering thousands of Italians at the end of the war. This was also enabled by their continued presence in Yugoslavia, pulling the mask of Yugoslavia over all their misdeeds even while they expanded territory and seized ancient cities founded and dominated by other nations.
After WWII, Slovenes occupied top positions in the political leadership of Yugoslavia. Tito was half Slovene. Kardelj, a Slovene schoolteacher, composed the 1974 constitution which helped set up the Kosovo fiasco. Slovene products (which I admit were better made than those by other ex-Yu republics) had a convenient market in Yugoslavia. They never would have been able to market their goods to the West because they were of insufficient quality. So they took advantage of a controlled and planned economy to expand their production base. It is well known that Macedonian farmers sent ripe tomatoes to Slovenian factories for canning and were then resold the tomato seeds for the same price they got for the original tomatoes.
The Krsko nuclear power plant was built with German aid in lieu of reparations for WWII. How many Slovenes were murdered in WWII and how many Serbs? How much damage did the Slovenian economy sustain under German occupation and how much did the Serbian economy? This, too, was a prize allotted by Tito to a republic that sustained the least casualties even while republics that sustained far worse received no reparations.
I have tried to be civil here because resorting to base language and insults is more along the lines of what you have done here. No response is necessary and none expected. This is, of course, more for the benefit of others here than for awaking some sort of spark of conscience within you.
Your (Slovenian) aspirations to be like Germany are not all bad, but I would remind you that my Slovene great grandfather was expelled from school in the "glorious days" of Austria-Hungary for speaking his own Slovene language in school. In school it was all German. After his expulsion, he had to move to Prague, learn Czech, and complete his education there.
Perhaps you can go back to those days, as it is clear that a millennium of Austrian occupation and denigration has not made you resentful of them, even as you take out your bile on a country (I am speaking of Yugoslavia here) which conferred so many benefits on Slovenia – economically, territorially, and culturally. Without Yugoslavia the Slovenes would be a stateless people, much as the Wends are in Germany and the Bretons in France.
Janez
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:56 am
When I said Serbs "deserved this treatment" I was a bit hyperbolic. I didn't mean it literally, but I wanted to make some kind of point, in reaction to all kinds of bull Nebojsa Malic and the likes of him have accustomed themselves to write, bullcrap (sorry for the expression) according to which Serbs are some kind of angelic creatures, brutalized by the "Empire" for no reason, former Yugoslavia was fine (all south Slavic peoples should live under the boot of Belgrade, that is supposed to mean normalcy, everything else being perversion, is that what he wants to say?) and similar fairy-tales most sane people rightfully refuse to believe.
It is very unfortunate that Serbs are being shot at by Albanian extremists and by NATO, but one has to understand the causes of that. It is the problems of Serbs that they don't want to accept the institutions of Kosovo, with all the protection guaranteed to minorities and even with seats in the Kosovo parliament. There is talk even about some kind of autonomy in Northern Kosovo, but no, Serbs obstinately refuse all of this, in the name of some fiction that Kosovo is still Serbia. That's ridiculous.
Janez
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:20 am
@ paleo
Yugoslavia was for us historically necessary at certain point of time, but later it became some kind of prison or cage. In the end of the 80-ies we got fed up with all the Balkanism, primitivism, reactionary communism mixed with atavistic nationalism (see Milosevic's Serbia, but Croatia followed the suit soon enough too) and similar. We wanted individual liberty and prosperity, we wanted to join the developed west. It is supposed to be some kind of crime? We should be "poor and proud" instead? In some supposedly free Yugoslavia? But we wouldn't be free ourselves because we would be under the boot of Serbia. But I guess that according to you and your ilk domination of primitive Serbian Communist politicians and generals means "freedom"? You are not making any sense.
Slovenia was different and IS still different. There is no doubt about that. Even today, when one crosses border from Slovenia to Croatia, one feels he has stepped into another world, from Central Europe into the Balkans. We were under some influence of the Balkans back then, but now we are wealthier and more civilized and that's the only thing that matters, not some nationalistic madness about "resisting the empire".
But tell me, if Yugoslavia was such a "bad" thing for Serbs, as you say, how come so many Serbs (and even Serb nationalists) are still so very markedly yugo-nostalgic? You and Nebojsa Malic included. It is supposed to have been some kind of "golden age" before the "evil empire" destroyed it (tale for children). But yet you keep on harping on how bad it was for Serbs. Weird.
Rad
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:39 am
Janez, you are totally out of touch with reality. No wonder that nobody likes
you in former Yugoslavia, particularly your Catholic brothers Croats.
You just proved that all written here about you is so correct. Enjoy your inhumanity. Good riddance!