Twelve years ago, Bill Clinton launched an evil little war in the Balkans, attacking what was then Yugoslavia because he could. The best indicator of that were the ever-changing pretexts for the war, from imposing a "peace" ultimatum and "protecting refugees" (created by the bombing) to stopping a (fictitious) "genocide." Four years later, when Bush the Lesser invaded Iraq, his pretexts were less humanitarian, but no less fictitious. The pattern was obvious even then. Today, the Nobel Peace Prize stands worthless as the Empire engages in yet another evil little war, this time in North Africa. Imperial policy has come full circle, with Barack Obama managing to combine the Clinton restoration with the Bush continuity.
Shifting the Goalposts
Following the 1999 war, which ended with the NATO occupation of the Serbian province of Kosovo, the Empire hired an "independent commission" to whitewash the endeavor as "illegal but legitimate." In actuality, it was both illegal and illegitimate. The war clearly violated the UN Charter, the NATO charter and the U.S. Constitution. Empire’s principal claim to the war’s legitimacy — alleged Serb atrocities against Albanian rebels — was exposed as exaggerated propaganda relatively quickly. Adding insult to injury was the wholesale campaign of ethnic cleansing by the Albanians, which started the moment NATO troops arrived in the province and went on for years with absolute impunity.
Even today, however, criticism of the Kosovo War takes on a "yes, but" form, in which the principal points of NATO propaganda — Serb atrocities, the alleged ethnic cleansing plan, 10,000 dead Albanian civilians, etc. — are taken as unimpeachable facts rather than tailor-made fiction. All that remains of the argument against the war then is that it was "too expensive" and "took too long." So, if the Empire promises and delivers a faster and cheaper war, that would make it all right?
Except there is no such thing, of course. Supposedly limited engagements have a way of turning into full-scale wars, simply because once the forces are deployed, it becomes more about prestige than anything else. Just watch for when generals and politicians start talking about "credibility" being at stake.
Arguing that Empire’s bloody adventures were unsuccessful doesn’t do any good, either. The Empire simply moves the goalposts to define success as it sees fit. Once it becomes clear there were no WMDs in Iraq, the war becomes about "regime change." Kosovo morphs from "destroying the Serbian military" to "bringing democracy to Serbia" to "giving Albanians independence." Libya started out as a no-fly zone to "protect civilians," almost immediately becoming close air support for the rebels, and is rapidly turning into a "regime change" operation.
With Friends Like These
Empire loves "regime change." Tell the people that X, ruling over country Y — which few can find on the map, and fewer still have any knowledge of — is an evil dictator, Hitler of our time, killing his own people who want nothing but peace and democracy (i.e. to be like Americans), and the war is on. Needless to say, X is usually someone who refuses to conform to Empire’s view of the world, divided into servants and victims.
No one stops to think that killing the people of Y to "liberate" them from being killed by X defies all logic. Besides, when the Empire kills that is "liberation." When others do it, it’s an atrocity, war crime, even genocide. And since it is a sacred mission of the U.S. to stop genocides, they somehow keep occurring all over the planet, at convenient times.
The other part of the equation is the group being "helped." In Iraq, the Empire ended up killing hundreds of thousands of people while a few exiles who helped bring the war about pocketed a fistful of dollars. In Kosovo, it was the KLA, a network of organized crime cartels who waged a war of terrorism against the police and civilians and lost — only to be bailed out by NATO at the last moment. Under NATO protection, they have engaged not just in ethnic cleansing, murder and mayhem, but also grisly practices such as harvesting organs from captives.
When bombs failed to effect "regime change" in Serbia, the Empire resorted to subterfuge. Intelligence services and the National Endowment for Democracy trained, paid and supported a legion of cheerleaders to develop a template for "popular revolution," used in many other places since. Yet these supposed "democrats" and "liberals" have been nothing of the sort, wallowing instead in corruption, tyranny, treason and even casual racism.
Then there are the Libyan rebels, who don’t even have a figurehead leader, and prefer posturing for news cameras to actual fighting. It is almost as if their sole purpose was to create a pretext for Imperial intervention; those who argued against it have since been drowned out by the chorus of bomb-seekers. The Western public is somehow supposed to believe these rebels are all about "diversity" (though they very clearly are not). Also, the U.S. intelligence agencies swear that the rebels have no terrorist ties. Just as they swore that Saddam Hussein did. For that matter, one of the "diverse" rebels profiled recently by the Washington Post had fought the U.S. in Iraq, his brother was a suicide bomber who killed U.S. Marines, and another brother is an al-Qaeda leader in Afghanistan. But Abu Sultan declares his undying devotion to the ideals of liberal democracy — so that’s all right, then.
Deeply Immoral, Period
Another way interventionists typically rebuff their critics is by labeling them "isolationists" or "pacifists," or even accusing them of "supporting X" (whoever X is at the time). If they respond by denying support for X, they only help bolster the Empire’s claims that X is an "evildoer" and must be stopped.
The dichotomy between pacifism — renouncing all violence, including self-defense — and interventionism, which redefines "defense" as invading anyone, anywhere, is clearly a false one. Libertarians have consistently opposed Imperial interventions, and the Empire itself, because of their belief in not initiating force. One major failing of the statist morality is that it applies a different standard to certain actions, depending on whether they are committed by private individuals or by the government. Both libertarians and statists would agree that blowing up someone’s house to "help" with a domestic dispute is immoral and insane. And it certainly doesn’t amount to supporting either side in the dispute, either. Yet only libertarians argue that this ought to apply to "humanitarian" bombings as well.
As for "isolationism," if that means taking the advice of the Founders that America ought not "go abroad in search of monsters to destroy," then so be it.
Aggressive wars, against conjured monsters halfway across the world, are clearly unconstitutional and ought to be profoundly un-American. Then again, the Empire shredded the Constitution years ago. Perhaps the best way to stop the current evil little war, and prevent more, is to rectify that particular tragedy first.
Read more by Nebojsa Malic
- It’s a Riot! – June 13th, 2013
- Victory Day – May 10th, 2013
- Consenting to Rape – April 25th, 2013
- An Unexpected Refusal – April 12th, 2013
- Lawless: An Oddly Exceptional Empire – March 28th, 2013





Suvorov
March 25th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Well, it's only fair that Western altruists should get a bit of oil from country Y in reward for liberating it from X.
Michael Kenny
March 26th, 2011 at 6:23 am
“Israel Lobby” would be a better term than “Empire”, although both mean the same thing in practice. Yugoslavia was a dry run for turning NATO into European cannon fodder for the defence of Israel and the still on-going fiasco there discredited Israel, the US and NATO in Europe. There followed the fiascos in Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Georgia, plus the diplomatic fiasco with Iran. Thus, nobody over here believes that Libya will be anything but a further fiasco. That will further damage the US in Europe. Ultimately, therefore, things are moving in the right direction.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
March 26th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Just a little more effort and you'll get it.
rosemerry
March 26th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Great article. I am just starting to read Diana Johnstone's "Fools' Crusade-Yugoslavia, NATO and western delusions", trying to overcome some of the false claims so often put up for so-called humanitarian missions. It was necessary for NATO to manufacture a role for itself after the fall of the USSR left it with no function, so it found another enemy and now revels in any enemy it can find.
cassandra
March 26th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
It has now emerged that many of the opposition leaders in Libya have ties to Muslim extremist groups. This isn't surprising, since repression produces rebellion and rebellion takes its form from the culture. This now puts the Obama regime in the position of fighting on the side of its sworn enemies. , This is yet another example of how the incompetence of our diplomats and intelligence officials, combined with the impulsiveness, arrogance, narcissism and hawkishness of our highest officials, leads us into disaster. As our mothers told us in early childhood, look before you leap!
Observator
March 26th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
or beastly desire to rule over others, humanitarian, civilized, exceptional and democratic Nazis one can say.
B..
March 27th, 2011 at 6:34 am
What is appalling about Jovanovic's (and LDP's) racism is the fact that it goes VIRTUALLY unnoticed in Serbia. Why is that so? I mean, ANY other politician who uttered such outrageously ugly slurs would be SMASHED by media (and rightly so). Esp. in Serbia, a country that was (fortunately) spared of that racist sickness in her wgole history (on the contrary: having been traditionally treated as underdog by various European "civilizing' forces, Serbian people have developed a visible sympathy to oppressed African peoples and theiir quests for freedom and emancipation from the colonial yoke).
And now, there is Jovanovic with his (Washington-backed!) KKK-vocabulary, Biljana Srbljanovic who merrily denies the Holocaust, insanely claiming that the European Jews were destroyed by none other than Russian Communists (NOT the German nazis, she was gruesomely specific), then various pro-EU, pro-NATO NGOs whose racism and denial of Serbian victims (of both WW2 and 1990s) is blatantly public… And yet, NOBODY seems to be noticing this ugly facists orgy by self-proclaimed "pro-Western liberals" of Serbia. Are they THAT scary so the people do not even DARE calling them fascists they are?
Stanislav Kalenic
March 27th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Not so little but evil for sure. To add to it, this is probably THE MOST EVIL WAR America was ever involved in. This is why:
1. The Eisenhower and Kennedy administration fabricated the Gulf of Tonkin incident where 3 Vietnamese row boats attacked a destroyer in order to enter that war. Lyndon Johnson only escalated it.
2. FAILED invasion of Cuba 1961 (Bay of pigs)
3. US invaded the Dominican Republic 1965
4. "Aids" and "technical advisers" sent to Bolivia resulting in killing of Che Guevara.
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The scheme with "aids and technical/military advisers" wore very thin over the years so the political machinery could no longer fool the American public with this type of game. The needed something more potent, and they came up with it. This new schedule now calls for "humanitarian actions" democracy spreading to the "oppressed minority" (some imaginary kind – never mind what kind) – so they took out the biggest hammer to get it into American public. USA has worked for decades to destroy the education – elementary and middle school Americans are vastly inferior to most other country's standards – but those that do make it through the years of brainwashing get a chance to go to colleges – and those become real serious – in both shaping their students views and advanced education which is better than most other high level schools anywhere else in the world (for the most part).
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Now this new MEGA HAMMER consists of the highly educated (and highly manipulative) top notch graduates (lawyers for the most part) who empowered (or dictated the media).
What was the last time you saw a CNN report and thought it was "fair, balanced and accurate"? – I bet NEVER
HOW THE MEGA HAMMER WORKS:
STEP ONE:
So with this new MEGA HAMMER the media lays the groundwork about some heartbreak story in some God forsaken place that no American child can find on any map. The media starts the campaign to soften the opposition as much as to gather some mild support.
STEP TWO:
Push some nitwit (Sarkozy, Blair, any ally) to start some nonsense – in that way USA didn't start anything but in order to "support our NATO allies" we joined" –
STEP THREE:
Bypass the Congress by sending US armed forces to "observe and assist"
STEP FOUR:
Send B-2 stealth and F117 Seahawk to help our friends and help the "oppressed minority" on the ground by bombing them into stone age.
STEP FOUR:
Find local traitors and pronounce them legitimate opposition to some dictator – since even countries as small as Serbia are capable of inflicting serious loss of life to the invaders (hense no ground war in FRY (Serbia).
STPE FIVE:
Divide et impera – divide the country into new provinces and start exploiting whatever they happen to have.
All this "wisdom" has backfired when the CIA overthrew Mosadegh of Iran and installed Reza Pahlavi, since he was replaced by Ayatollah Rullah Khomeini, who was subsequently replaced by Ahmedinejad (the most probable next target of the US war machine)
Cui bono? To what end?
The old outdated armaments are being put to use (sold or given to the oppressed minorities in distant lands) so the country is forced to force Congress into new weapons buying and development programs.
RESULT:
The rich get richer (remember that small group who learns how to navigate expensive colleges – those same guys are now bankers, owners of brokerage firms, arms manufacturers, and similar – so the good pals that they are – they help each other
The President has the plausible deniability – he was out of the country (Obama was in Brazil), or didn't have to get Congressional approval to engage US military as they were only acting in accordance to help their (NATO) allies
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I predict that this is the last time the MEGA HAMMER is being used, since people are beginning to see through all the lies spread out by the media and some new reasons for wars will be invented soon.
Stanislav Kalenic
March 27th, 2011 at 7:29 am
I didn't finish the laundry list of US invasions after 1945, let's start over:
1. The Eisenhower and Kennedy administration fabricated the Gulf of Tonkin incident where 3 Vietnamese row boats attacked a destroyer in order to enter that war. Lyndon Johnson only escalated it.
2. FAILED invasion of Cuba 1961 (Bay of pigs)
3. US invaded the Dominican Republic 1965
4. 1967 "Aids" and "technical advisers" sent to Bolivia resulting in killing of Che Guevara.
5.1983 invasion of Grenada
6. 1989 invasion of Panama
7. 1990 First Gulf War
8. 1991 Second Gulf war (Iraq) extending to Afghanistan
9. 1999 attack on Serbia
The killing of Salvador Allende in Chile is not included although the stamp says Made in USA
A more detailed listing at: http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interven…
Shqiptar
March 28th, 2011 at 7:56 am
War in Kosovo in 1999 was a good war. God bless America!
Vassily Andonov
March 28th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Serbs have been historically racist towards all of their neighbouring peoples: Bulgarians, Croats, Hungarians, Albanians etc. Bloodshed, war and taking away other peoples' territories – these are the specialties of Serbs. That's why Serbia has to be held under constance surveillance, for the good of humanity. Serbs are not (yet) civilized. Let's hope that with the entry of Serbia into EU these vile murderous insticts disappear from the Serbian psyche.
Vassily Andonov
March 28th, 2011 at 8:03 am
I wanted to say: constant surveillance.
Stanislav Kalenic
March 28th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Shqiptar: How many women did you rape during the "good war"?
Or how many people did you take to the yellow house?
Or how many churches did you desecrate?
Give us some personal views on this "good war" –
Obviously Marcus Tulius Cicero and Benjamin Franklin were idiots according to you since they both said: "unjust peace is better than a just war"
I am happy to have such a wise man in this modest company of modest people. We need brilliant thinkers like you – let's hear some more from you.
Stanislav Kalenic
March 28th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
How so?
B..
March 28th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Bulgarians, Croats, Hungarians and Albanians? Rabid Hitlerites who ALL took part in UNTHINKABLE atrocities against Serbian CIVILIANS throughout the WW2, leaving NOTHING but scorched land, concentration camps and mass graves? You're not worth an answer, you sick fascist lying monster. Ataka voter, I presume?
B..
March 28th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Except from selling organs, parading in SS uniforms and smuggling heroin, what else have you done lately with the "freedom" that Bill and Hitlery gave you?
B..
March 28th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Plus, this disgusting rhetoric of this nazi retard, "ssurveilance" and all… bears the stench of his Hitlerite predecessors more than anything.
On the lighter note, I remember an old joke about the Bulgarian fantasies on their dreamt-up "resistance movement" (they were so eager in fighting Hitler that their whole ARMY simply changed the symbols on the uniforms in 1944, and that is a FACT which can be proved in two seconds in case that this sicko starts objecting). The joke like this:
- What did the Bulgarian resistance fighters do in order to damage the Germans during the war?
- They bravely organized themselves and heroically ate all the candies in Sofia
Suvorov
March 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
…and they are getting it already.
Suvorov
March 28th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Chances are he did none of those things as he was hiding in the attic.
Vassily Andonov
March 29th, 2011 at 2:14 am
Your hysterical reaction exactly proves my point: Serb nationalists (like you, for example) are mad dogs and that's why Serbia must be kept under the firm grip of the civilized world and has to be constantly reminded of its criminal past (throughout 20ieth century, until the war of the nineties). NGOs, Ceda Jovanovic, Sonja Biserko and others are doing good job, but not enough. More is needed.
Other European countries had such rabid, raving, hate-mongering chauvinists too, but they have been shoved aside and marginalized during the process of democratization. Unlike in Serbia, where this irrational and hateful discourse is still rampant, sometimes even close to the political mainstream. What is worse, this hatred and vengeful impulse because of the – perceived or real- grievances from the past is at times even presented as "anti-fascism". Of course, only in Serbia can such creatures enjoy the benefit of being called "anti-fascists", while the civilized world doesn't recognize them as such.
I am not a voter of Ataka, nor do I support them (they are extremists), but I do care for the rights of Bulgarian minority in Serbia. Bulgarians of Serbia were terribly treated and discriminated against during the two Yugoslavias, even in a worse manner than Kosovo Albanians (this proves that all Serb nationalist talk about Slavic and Orthodox brotherhood and solidarity is just, well, pure blather). They were even afraid to say they were Bulagarians. Now the times have changed and Serbia will have to grant them full minority rights.
It's such a pity that at the beginning of 21st century Serbia needs Camp Bondsteel to teach her values of civilization and normal behaviour.
Stanislav Kalenic
March 29th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Shqiptar, everybody is waiting for your answer. What happened? You don't have any personal examples of the "good war"? You seem to be superior to most brilliant men on Earth, yet you chose to stay quiet after opposing their wisdom – don't be afraid, this is not Albania (or Kosovo) where you get punished or killed for speaking the truth – be brave and speak the truth freely, I assure you no harm will come to you. Give us some answers to the few modest questions we asked.
Shqiptar
March 29th, 2011 at 7:14 am
The Serbs oppressed Kosova Albanians for more than eighty years (1912-1999, with pauses 1915-18 and 1941-44, when Kosova was, for a short time detached from Serbia). How many people killed, mosques destroyed…? Many, great many, but it happened during a protracted period of time, so it didn't enter anyone's conscience.
Kosovo is Albania!
B..
March 29th, 2011 at 7:29 am
How's dope-selling business going? Prostitution rings? Freedom is a great thing to be enjoyed by subtle human-rights lovers like yourself
B..
March 29th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Oh, yeah. You've made such a wonderful debut of DENYING crimes committed against Serbs in your very FIRST (rabidly fascist) post here, and yet I'm "hysterical". Care to elaborate a bit on Serbian "crimes" against Hungarians, Bulgarians, Croats…. numbers, places and all. And vice versa. Or shut the hell up. It seems that I've wasted too many bytes on you already, but you've proven my exact point with this miserable hateful response better than I thought you'd be capable of.
Go check Biserko's stuff on Jasenovac denial. You're gonna enjoy it throughout, at the next "Hate your Serb and win your prize"- reunion.
Stanislav Kalenic
March 29th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Shqiptar, thank you, for instructing us in the factual elements of history. Since Kosovo was oppressed for so long how come all the towns, all the churches have Serbian names? Even the word Kosovo is a Serbian word – not Albanian. Urosevac, Obilic, Zubin Potok, Pristina, Mitrovica, etc. etc. all Serbian names – why do you suppose that the oppressed Albanians chose to name their towns by using Serbian words? The word Metohija is Greek – again not Albanian. Since you already gave us the background, let's see it from a linguistic point as well. When Turks took Constantinopolis they renamed it Istanbul – obviously the ethnic majority chooses the names. We must agree on that.
Stanislav Kalenic
March 29th, 2011 at 10:16 am
I can also yell that rain water is beer, but I don't think it will ever happen. So far "Kosovo is Albania" is equally badly worded. Kosovo is Kosovo. You may hold it for a short while but in the long run you'll be running to mother Albania faster than you can imagine.
Shqiptar
March 30th, 2011 at 2:22 am
Yes, I am all trembling from these toothless Serb "threats". Serbs are never going to rule over Kosova again. You may consider yourself happy if you eventually manage to get, through negociations, the northern enclave. And the rest goes to our mother country, Albania. This province will be renamed into Dardania, because that was its original name, before the Slavic barbarians came.
Shqiptar
March 30th, 2011 at 2:25 am
You are perfectly describing your beloved Serbia, a country which is hotbed of organized crime in south-eastern Europe. If Kosova has some mafia, Serbia has it about three times more.
Vassily Andonov
March 30th, 2011 at 2:42 am
Crimes in the Second world war against Croats and Bosnian Muslims (by chetniks and sometimes by partisans). Crimes agaionst Vojvodina Hungarians by Serbian partisans. Crimes against Albanians in Kosovo, during the conquest of Kosovo in 1912. Serbian crimes and ethnic cleansing in wars in Croatia and Bosnia in the beginning of the nineties. Crimes and ethnic cleansing in Kosovo in 1999. Taking away Bulgarian lands and suppression of the Bulgarians in Serbia. Srebrenica? (now I might here the usual genocide denail stuff, but it's already becoming old)
Bulgarians of Serbia deserve some kind of autonomy. Ditto for Vlachs. If Serbia is tzo be considered civilized country with a perspective of joining EU.
Why do you think Bulgaria is in EU and Serbia isn't? Because you are still considered savages by the West and there is a general conviction that you have to be re-educated into normalcy, weaned away from your rabid nationalism and living in the past. Russia won't help you in anything: don't flatter yourself. Putin stayed for entire…five hours in your country, during his last visit, which proves how much he thinks you are important (and this visit wasn't to Serbia only anyway, but to Slovenia AND Serbia).
Nebojsa V.
March 30th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
Nero
March 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Serbs will never rule over KosovA, but they will rule over their KOSOVO & METOHIJA. Oce the big Empire loses interest in that piece of land ans stopps protecting you what do you think will happend? Better start appologizing on time and give the land back to the rightful owner – the Serbs and the honest minorities…
Nero
Stanislav Kalenic
March 31st, 2011 at 4:25 am
Shquiptar, I notice that you are intelligent, literate, well educated and full of knowledge. But I can't decide if you are a coward or only blind. I am going to wonder why do you keep getting so many negative ratings, while everybody else is in a positive?
I asked you a very simple question and you never answered it, here is a copy "Shqiptar, thank you, for instructing us in the factual elements of history. Since Kosovo was oppressed for so long how come all the towns, all the churches have Serbian names? Even the word Kosovo is a Serbian word – not Albanian. Urosevac, Obilic, Zubin Potok, Pristina, Mitrovica, etc. etc. all Serbian names – why do you suppose that the oppressed Albanians chose to name their towns by using Serbian words?
EuroBalkan
March 31st, 2011 at 7:35 am
Dear Mr. Malic,
Another hate spreading article from your hate filled mind! Just like hundreds of other ones prior to this.
Same scheme, same ranting! You and your followers were done wrong from the rest of the world, but somehow, someday, your delusional truth will prevail!
Then you unleash your attack dogs in this forum to offend, denigrate, attack and humiliate (even threat, typical Balkan style) anyone dissenting with your own version of reality.
It is no coincidence that you, your hate-filled self-created reality, and your attack dogs, have been bondsteeled to your cage for years now after the lethal danger you presented to other neighboring fellow humans. You can still bark loudly from your cave (a modern one, with internet access now) and still show your decaying teeth, but this behavior will not be rewarded. Aggressiveness, lack of respect, lack of civility, just attack anyone, electronically or physically, is a dangerous behavior! No need for further attacks and gangster behavior by you or your attack dogs. We all know you do not represent all the serbs, who in large part are ashamed of the atrocities of the past and want to live in a civilized society. They have to cage their biting dogs though, as there are thousands of war criminals still living large in Serbia. They are not an immediate danger to the neighbors thankfully, but they are a Real and Present danger to normal serbs.
Got it?
B..
March 31st, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Well, when I asked you about the EVIDENCE for your ridiculous claims, I wasn't looking for the stuff you've copy/pasted from some Bulgarian nazi rat-hole. Not that I'm very surprised (not whatsoever!) but this is just a usually lame BS. Let's elaborate:
"Crimes in the Second world war against Croats and Bosnian Muslims (by chetniks and sometimes by partisans)."
As a matter of fact, Chetnik crimes against Croatian civilians were (luckily) disproportionally few and far between (given their vengeful nature as a retribution for Ustasha genocide). There was an indiscriminate retribution against Bosnian Muslims in 1942, but ONLY as a result of the Muslim complicity in Ustasha and SS nazi crimes against Serbs (and only in eastern Bosnia/Sanjak/Montenegro bordering area, known for an unfortunately large Muslim complicity in ustasha and nazi units).
As for Partisans, they haven't committed any ethnically motivated acts whatsoever (unless of course, you count – as I'm sure you do – the lying fairy-tales thought-up by your Croat nazi buddies about Bleiburg).
"Crimes agaionst Vojvodina Hungarians by Serbian partisans."
This is just absurd. Hungarian Horthyites carried out a brutal (and well-documented) genocide against Serbs and Jews in South Backa in Vojvodina. Some butchers were prosecuted and punished after the war. While Hungarian community as a whole was left VIRTUALLY untouched, living in Serbia as peacefully and well-integrated as it gets. Why are you making the things up, esp. the ones that can be checked in a matter of SECONDS? The same goes for Bulgarians, whom you so manifestly (and laughingly false) proclaimed an "oppressed minority". Only in your Ataka-infested mind.
" Crimes against Albanians in Kosovo, during the conquest of Kosovo in 1912. Serbian crimes and ethnic cleansing in wars in Croatia and Bosnia in the beginning of the nineties. Crimes and ethnic cleansing in Kosovo in 1999. Taking away Bulgarian lands and suppression of the Bulgarians in Serbia. Srebrenica? (now I might here the usual genocide denail stuff, but it's already becoming old)"
I won't even bother answering this whiny crap (boho-hooooo, they've stolen Bulgarian land, I'm not an Ataka skinhead nut but a worried EU Ubermench). As for Srebrenica, I know that this is the straw that all you nazis are clinging to. You're trying to equate Naser Oric and his monsters with no less than the innocent victims that your fathers murdered during the Holocaust, so your shameful histories oh nazi favorite call-girls could look slight less disgracefully genocidal.. Well, what can I tell ya'll? Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
However, THIS is really charming, so I'd like to encourage a further conversation:
"Why do you think Bulgaria is in EU and Serbia isn't? Because you are still considered savages by the West"
Oh yeah, and I hear you're doing great in the big boys' club. Brits and Germans won't even blink unless the mighty Bulgars permit them to :). You're a legend, man. Gimme more of it.
"Putin stayed for entire…five hours"
So, THAT's what's been botherin' ya all along? Putin's been to Serbia and NOT to Bulgaria? Being very popular around here (and hanging out with the local bikers), perhaps Vladimir Vladimirovich might be politely asked by his Serbian biker buddies to visit your country as well, so Vasilly Andonov could quit bitchin' it over on American websites.
Plus, i wouldn't be worried if I were you. If there is a mastery that Bulgarian politics could count on, it is a impeccable knowledge how to switch sides in a matter of seconds. So, when this whole EU/NATO shebong is over, you'd be runnin' to Moscow and telling Russians that the NATO rockets you've so eagerly aimed from your soil toward their towns, kindergartens, schools, factories and hospitals… were just a clever manoeuvre thought up to fool the NATO. All along, the brave Bulgarian resistance fighters were eating all the candies they could find in Sofia, in order to undermine the enemy's morale, orientation and spirit. Like they always did
B..
March 31st, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Admit it, man! You're hangin' around with us just to pimp the sh/t you're sellin'! An ALBANIAN joking to the problems of organized crime in ANY other country in the world… it's kind of like Hannibal Lecter blasting the customers in some steakhouse for their cruelty on animals. Pretty have stuff you've got there.
B..
March 31st, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Pretty HEAVY stuff, I meant to say, but this guy's just cracking me up as I write :).
B..
March 31st, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Hey, Alban. I see you've changed your nickname (in order to sound more inclusive and 'universal' in your tirade against The Evil Nebojsa Malic). But the tune is just so sadly the same. What've got here thus far at THIS thread: a Bulgarian who PUBLICLY denied the ustasha/nazi genocide against Serbs in WW2, and this Squiptar fellow who sounds ridiculously cartoonish with these slogan stuff he's throwin' around. And yet, you (an enlightened, well-meaning, objective well-wisher to ALL Balkan nations) seem to be worrying only about the fact that Nebojsa Malic is writing a column that you do not agree with. Why is that so? An unfamiliar reader might confuse you for a selective, one-sided bigot who just pretends to be polite.
Shqiptar
April 1st, 2011 at 6:55 am
I am even more frightened, hehehe…the thing is, there is no Kosovo and Metohija any more, like there is no more nowadays, let's say, Babylonian or Aztec empire. There is only KosovA!
Stanislav Kalenic
April 1st, 2011 at 9:40 am
Wasn't that a quick thinking answer, just as long as Albanians built all the Serbian Eastern Orthodox Churches on Serbian soil while emperors commanded them? C'mon stop kidding already. It is impossible to go to Canada and call it China because Vancouver, British Columbia has over 50% of Oriental residents – life doesn't work that way and it never will. You can be a loudmouth all you want as long as Bondsteel is there but they too will have to leave (sooner or later) and we shall see who is the rightful resident of KosovO. You don't have to answer that, we both know the truth. Emperor Suleiman the Great and Murad equally didn't last in that same province although they brought your today's religion – and it is a little more recent than Babylon and Aztecs.
Stanislav Kalenic
April 1st, 2011 at 9:43 am
I can't figure out why these Albanians are changing their names. There is no fear of retribution here. We do not operate a yellow house – we will not sell their organs in Turkey or Albania. But they fear because they know full well how their kinfolk operate, and keep kidding themselves with infantile posts, ridiculous logic, strange constructs of non-existent history, denying their own Mongolian heritage, etc. etc. etc.
Stanislav Kalenic
April 1st, 2011 at 4:25 pm
EuroBalkan – since when are Mongolian tribes Euro anything?
Suvorov
April 1st, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Several years ago I argued with an arnaut on youtube and then he came back under a different name but didn't even change his age and country (which wasn't Albania btw) on his profile. I take it he was expecting me to believe he was someone different…
Shqiptar
April 2nd, 2011 at 3:34 am
We have been the majority there for the last three centuries at least. That much is sure, beyond any doubt.
Stanislav Kalenic
April 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 am
You mean you abandoned your argument about Babylon and the Azteck empire? How come? Very sudden change – again within those 3 centuries your imaginary majority kept naming Kosovo towns in Serbian language (Zubin Potok, Obilic, Mitrovica, etc. etc. even the word Kosovo relates to a bird (kos) while Metohija is a Greek word – strange how for those 3 centuries you didn't make your presence known but kept building all major Serbian Eastern Orthodox churches (Djurdjevi stupovi, Pecka Patrijarsija – 10th and 11th Century) – how does anybody explain that?
I am truly sorry, but your arguments are either weak, imaginary or self-delusional, which you won't admit, but it's all the same to me – we both know you'll be going back to Albanian real soon.
Stanislav Kalenic
April 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 am
What a terrible curse these Albanians present. God's scourge on Earth. They are not only imbeciles, but can't reason their way out of a wet paper bag. All the facts point one way – yet they persist in some self-delusional view which they abandon after the first challenge and adopt a new even more bizzare self-delusional view. You can't even run a half normal exchange without them changing the theme half way through the exchange. Real curse. Babylon and the Azteck Empire all of sudden do not matter, all the Serbian history (churches, names) also do not matter they must have been built by aliens from Mars – not a single honest answer to any question. They should be deported back to Mongolia or Albania or better yet let down into the Mediteranian sea to float as far as possible.
Stanislav Kalenic
April 3rd, 2011 at 9:13 am
If all the Albanians are like this in real life no wonder there can never be any reconciliation. They can't tell the truth from an overt lie. When presented with pure proven facts – they change subjects and resort to some sci-fi history that nobody has ever heard of. Truly terrible proven here by example. I was kind and courteous to the two camouflaged Albanians and attempted to have "a conversation on their terms", even accepting their non-sense, but they changed topics once cornered with the impossibility of their claims. A pitiful nation. Truly pitiful and sad – not to mention blood-thirsty.
Alban
April 5th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Stanislav, I am not sure on what medications you are on………. but, they are not working !!!! Are still taking hate pills?
You are supposed to be taking anti-hate medication! Well, hanging on this forum and reading Mr.Malic has aggravated your condition.
Time for a check up, and soon! Otherwise, you do need to be "bondsteeled to your cage for years" untill someone sees some sanity on you!
Stanislav Kalenic
April 5th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Alban, Sqiptar and all the other hate-mongers, it is pretty consistent what you and you ilk are doing here. You get a simple civilized question – you mouth off some Babylon/Azteck Empire, get confronted with undisputed facts and change the subject. I am not sure who's failed to take their medication but there is no cure for you and your ilk. Rather than maintain some sembalnce of civility you lie, lie, falsify, invent and re-invent everything (Serbian names were forced on Albanian population – look at the statistics and demographics Albanians were a clear minority prior to the hostilities and there is no wonder the towns are called (Zubin Potok, Obilic, Mitrovica, Leposavic, Istok, etc. etc. – than you run out of your typical B.S. and start accusing others of not taking pills – who do you think you're kidding? The only hatemongers here are the Fascist Albanian bunch. Who were the members of the SS Skanderbeg division? Serbs or Albanians? Who were the victims? Serbs or Albanians?
How come most of the Albanian comments get between 3 and 5 thumbs down and not the others?
I suggest you think about this great line from Hamlet:
By indirections – find directions out.
In other words by lack of answers (including evasiveness, vague and poorly worded answers, arrive at normal conclusions). I think I am being clear enough for a six year olds.
Cheers.
Stanislav Kalenic
April 6th, 2011 at 9:43 am
What now? No answers? OK, let's see again who is on what medication? Simplest questions on Earth that the Albanians refuse to answer – they are waiting to change topics, or employ some other scheme, like always. Isn't there one of you to prove me wrong? Since I have been so wrong in the past?
Stanislav Kalenic
April 7th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Proof positive and irrefutable how Albanian intellect (if anybody can find a trace of it) functions.
1. The spew sheer non-sense.
2. A factual reply is offered.
3. Instead of answering facts with facts they label the person "on medication, hate-monger" or some other personal insult since they have zero facts to sustain even the simplest logic.
4. If (even for one second) anybody would suppose that "I am on medication" it that much more damaging to Albanians since the are unable to hold any semblance of conversation even with a person "who is on medication" therefore: even a Serbian who is unwell is worth 100 Albanians who are (in their words) well.
These last few exchanges show and prove without a shadow of a doubt that Albanians are vastly inferior, deceitful liers, unable to hold any conversation, keep resorting to switching topics when confronted with irrefutable historical facts. How can any nation with all those shortcoming maintain one little town, let alone a Serbian land – the province of Kosovo. Their days are numbered, it's not a question of IF, it's a question of WHEN.
Stanislav Kalenic
April 8th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Proof positive and irrefutable how Albanian intellect (if anybody can find a trace of it) functions.
Granted that most of the Albanians here speak English (probably read and write) better than I do, but 4 days without a single answer is telling enough.
Novak
April 21st, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Vassily, can you please entertain us and explain what happened to 1 million Turks in your democratic country of Bulgaria.