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Injustice for All, Again

Not for the first time, the Hague Inquisition (ICTY) has done something stupid. The quasi-court, claiming nonexistent authority from the UN Security Council to prosecute war crimes during the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s, last Friday released two Croatian generals, convicted last year of war crimes. Notorious for redefining the standards of evidence, logic and even language to justify convictions, the Inquisition has done so once again – only this time, to reverse convictions.

The decision came down by a majority vote, 3-2, with the American-Israeli, Jamaican and Turkish judges agreeing that their colleagues’ original judgment as to what constituted "evidence of unlawful attacks" was wrong. More importantly, presiding judge Theodor Meron wrote that the "evidence was not sufficient to establish the charge of a so-called ‘joint criminal enterprise’ aimed at ethnic cleansing". The Italian and Maltese judges disagreed, but were overruled. Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markac flew back to Croatia for a heroes’ welcome.

Tribunal, Deconstructed

The doctrine of "joint criminal enterprise" was developed for the Inquisition by a Croat-American law professor, as a sort of catch-all concept that enabled the prosecution of people not for what they did, but for who they were at the time. Basically, simply being in a position of authority was enough to convict someone on grounds that they "should have known" what their subordinates were doing. This has enabled the Inquisition to accuse the entire Serb political and military leadership — in today’s Croatia, Bosnia, and Serbia — of being parts of a grand conspiracy to establish a "Greater Serbia."

So it was a little incongruous to see it invoked in a trial of Croatian generals – and even more so to see the ICTY demolish the whole construct in order to get them released. Meron’s claim of insufficient evidence is simply absurd, because the whole point of JCE is to make evidence unnecessary. Moreover, the evidence of intent to expel and destroy the Serbs does exist: tapes of President Tudjman’s meetings with subordinates clearly show it. No such evidence exists in any of the cases where Serbs were convicted of alleged atrocities, including the Srebrenica "genocide."

Logic would dictate that the Tribunal has just ruled itself absurd and incompetent. That now the indictments against Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic should be thrown out as well. That a Serb general convicted of deliberately shelling civilians without any judicial finessing about 200-meter near-misses, should be set free.

But logic – much like justice, indeed – has little to do with the Tribunal’s operations, or its mission. When it comes to the Balkans Wars of the 1990s, for the Empire and its agents – the ICTY being one of them – it isn’t about what was done, but who did it to whom.

"Junkyard Dogs"

The generals’ release was very important to Zagreb. Official Croatian narrative is that in 1991, their young democracy was invaded by the Communist Serbs and their Yugoslav Army, who "occupied a third" of Croatia’s territory. Only in the heroic "police action" of August 1995 was Croatia finally "liberated" – August 5 has ever since been the "Homeland Thanksgiving Day" – and could embark on the path back to Europe.

The 200,000-plus Serbs who were displaced? Must have been those invaders, going back to wherever they came from. None other than the U.S. Ambassador himself said this couldn’t have possibly been "ethnic cleansing." How dare the ICTY even suggest it could have been otherwise?

As usual, the narrative doesn’t hold up under the burden of facts. Having decided that ending the Bosnian War on its own terms would best serve its interests in post-Cold War Europe, the U.S. leadership launched a new "diplomatic" initiative (the "Contact Group"), while preparing for war. To that effect, it forced the battling Muslims and Croats into an alliance, sent a premier military contractor to train the Croatians, and eventually offered intelligence and even air support to the Croatian military.

Richard Holbrooke, the Assistant Secretary of State involved in these efforts, even recalled his colleague Robert Frasure referring to Croatia as America’s "junkyard dogs," about whose methods one oughtn’t be "squeamish."

A Victorious Crime

But the Serbs were not invaders. They had lived in those territories for centuries. When the newly elected government in Zagreb began passing discriminatory laws, they took up arms to avoid the fate of their kin, murdered en masse by the Nazi-allied Croatian state during WW2. Following the 1991 conflict, these Serb-inhabited areas were under UN protection, as laid out in the ceasefire arranged by U.S. diplomat Cyrus Vance. Arming and training of the Croatians was entirely against a UN-imposed arms embargo. To the rising Empire, none of this mattered.

So in August 1995, men under Gotovina and Markac, on orders from Franjo Tudjman – and with the blessing of William Jefferson Clinton’s government – expelled over 200,000 people, killing about 2,000, mostly civilians. They called it "Operation Storm."

The 2001 census in Croatia showed 380,000 fewer Serbs than in 1991.

Misdirection

It is often forgotten that the ICTY was merely another product of Empire’s Balkans agenda. Ostensibly charged with prosecuting all war crimes in the territory of what was Yugoslavia, its mandate somehow extended only to the locals, and not the US, NATO, UN or any other external actors. And in practice, its purpose was to back up the claim that the conflicts of the 1990s were the sole fault of the Serbs and Serbs alone.

No charges were pressed against president Tudjman of Croatia, or Bosnian Muslim leader Alija Izetbegovic, while they were alive. Naser Oric, the Bosnian Muslim commander of Srebrenica, was acquitted after a farce of a trial. So was Ramush Haradinaj, one of the terrorist KLA commanders and later Empire’s favorite politician in "independent" Kosovo.

The original conviction of Gotovina and Markac came as a shock to the Croatian public, and a surprise to the Serbs. And that was precisely the point: the ICTY needed to create an appearance of fairness, so the quisling regime in Belgrade could hand over the last remaining official required to complete the "Greater Serbia Conspiracy" set. The verdict also cleared Croatia’s entry into the EU, approved in December 2011. Lost in the perception-managed noise about the conviction of Gotovina and Markac was an important detail: the third general on trial, Ivan Cermak, had been acquitted.

Remember, the whole point of the JCE is that it’s practically impossible to get acquitted, once charged: the defendant is guilty by the virtue of existing. Cermak obviously existed at the time of "Storm." His acquittal was a signal that "Gotovina and Markac might eventually be sentenced to time served, or even outright acquitted, following the appeals process." And so they were.

Neither the Inquisition, nor the Croatians, nor their Imperial overlords bothered with considering the Serb reaction. After all, in their minds, Serbia is so thoroughly conquered, so beneath contempt, that it doesn’t even merit an empty gesture of pretend fairness any more.

They aren’t the first to have thought so – or the first to be terribly wrong.

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  1. MvGuy
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    An odd piece by Mr. Malic or so it seems to me… It seems off-handed to me. It doesn't seem as thorough as his usual efforts.. I don't intend to disparage his principle contentions concerning the ICTY and the near impossibility of Serbs getting a fair hearing… Shades of Lockerby I'm afraid….. I agree with him it's just another tool that the empire has deployed to humble and destroy Serbia and Serbs. All with the intent to neutralize, weaken and isolate Russia….. When I commented on Mr. Malic's last piece "Winter of Discontent", I asked… ""There are already signs of discontent in Moscow, with prominent analysts doubting the good faith of the regime in Belgrade. As well they should – but the question is, what do they intend to do about it?"

    Never mind "what do they intend to do about it?" Tell US (and them!) what they CAN effectively "do about it"………….. "

    What should the the intended victim …. [Russia] effectively say and "do" about this latest outrage..??

    These articles are great for spotlighting these injustices…… BUT what's the remedy they call for..???

    Last time the author wrote…. "As Mihkas shows below, there are many ways of doing something, and the Russians may even be aware of them. As would the Serbs, for that matter. It is easier said than done, but it's easier done than people think. In any case, it goes way beyond my scope as a columnist here."

    I respectfully disagree that listing some of the counter moves that ["the Russians may even be aware of them. As would the Serbs"] exceeds the writ of Mr. Malic….. It seems beyond obvious that SOME people have ideas on some counter actions….. and I don't mean more talk on TV …………… "actions"

  2. 5 mos, 4 wks ago

    Oh, listing possibilities and ideas isn't beyond my writ. I just think it would be counterproductive of me to do so publicly. There is a time and a place for all things.

  3. The Threeof Spades
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    Peter Galbraith, US Ambassador to Croatia during the Operation Storm, famous for riding on the turret of a Croatian tank in pursuit of fleeing Serb civilians, has given an interview to a Belgrade weekly. He claims that the US authorised and sponsored the offensive in retaliation for Srebrenica. Nowhere in the interview is there a trace of Srebrenica claims being disputed. It is essentially taken for granted that it was an act of genocide. With this being reinforced two things are a given:
    a) full rehabilitation of Croatian generals and vindication of Croatia's expulsion of the Serb population, and
    b) a forgone conclusion that Karadzic, Mladic and other indicted Serbs will be convicted. Anyone looking for anything else is hopelessly naive.

    At the beginning of the Yugoslav civil war I had Russian emigre friends in San Francisco. They were full of admiration for the Serbs and supported their cause in various ways. Some of them have close ties and access to Kremlin. I re-visited and met with them in the summer of 2009. We discussed the Serbs. They said: Yes, we were so wrong about the Serbs, we just don't know what to make of those people.

    I could not help the impression that their statements reflected the Moscow views of the Serbs and Serbia. I am convinced that Moscow will either do nothing or do something about Serbia – all depending on what will behoove Moscow's interests. It is not that Kremlin is callous and cannot be relied on. The Russians in San Francisco made it clear that Kremlin is tired of Serbs duplicitous methods and fickle character. They consider Serbs to be entirely unreliable and, consequently, have to act the way that is in Russia's interest. If that benefits the Serbs Russia want stand in the way, if, on the other hand, the Serbs get nothing of it so be it.

  4. The Threeof Spades
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    Correction, the sentence:

    If that benefits the Serbs Russia want stand in the way, if, on the other hand, the Serbs get nothing of it so be it.

    should read:

    If that benefits the Serbs Russia want stand in the way, if, on the other hand, the Serbs get nothing out of it so be it.

  5. MichaelKenny
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    What's interesting is that while all the author's classic propaganda themes are present, the whole thing is very subdued, even half-hearted. The only concrete statement the author makes is that the Dodik – Lagumdzija agreement was not what the US or the EU wanted but offers no evidence in support of his contention. Also, my reading of Profesor Kanin's article, which in no way reflects US government policy, is that he does not "dismiss" that agreement but he does emphasise the differences between US and EU foreign policy. Thus, the "silly little thing in the Balkans" that this author is so obsessed with is getting sillier and littler by the day!

  6. The Threeof Spades
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    What happened? You accessed the wrong copy-paste function?
    Dodik Lagumdzija issue was a subject of the previous article.

    You are "obsessed with a silly little thing" aren't you? Actually to the point of losing the track
    of what article you are reading, let alone your "every two weeks" jibe.

  7. Serbophobic Attitude
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    Nebojša Malić was right. Serbian reactions hardly bother anyone here in Croatia, they are rather used as material for making jokes. That's because today's Serbia is, let's say it honestly, some kind of crap and nobody serious cares about its opinion on anything.

    I know, I know. You will reply that Croatia means little to nothing in international relations as well, but the difference is that, unlike Serbia, Croatia never had dreams of grandeur and domination over the Balkans.

  8. The Threeof Spades
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    I have lived in both Belgrade and several places in Croatia.
    While Serbs do have their famous "govori srpski da te ceo svet razume" your claim of "Greater Serbia" is absolute rubbish. Find me one piece of evidence that that was the policy or a rallying cry of the Serbs during the latest war. The "Greater Serbia" is a derivative construct of Ilija Garashanin's "Nachertanie." Most contemporary Serbs haven't a faintest idea of who Garashanin or what the "Nachertanie" is.

    As for the Croats you are a rather pathetically narcissistic culture, if one could call you a culture. Your harping on being pro-Western is such a worn out jibe. A rush to rehabilitate Ante Starchevich and name after him everything from public squares to public toilets is a fairly good indication of who the Croats and Croatia are. As someone who saw you both from within and from outside I can fairly say that you leave an impression of people bedeviled by the inferiority complex in a pent-up search for identity.

    Your "criticism" of Serbs is rather laughable. A pot calling kettle black. The irony is that the handle you go under is not tongue-in-cheek. You mean it in earnest, which demolishes both your criticism of the Serbs and the praise of the Croats.

  9. MichaelKenny
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    Thank you, Three of Spades, for noting the absurdity! I don't keep copies of my comments, so I COULDN'T repost even if wanted to. Thus, you can be sure that if it is merely a repaste of an earlier comment it's the imposter, not me. Amused as I am to be the centre of attention, let me say on this article, which (for once!) is topical, that the author is caught between his "hatred", whether real or pretended, of the Tribunal and his need to hype some sort of an article out of the recent decision. In fact, the Tribunal should never have been set up. It was an American scam to set Europeans at each others throats and thereby disrupt the functioning of the EU. And, of course, this author's permanent "line" is to try to bamboozle his American readers into believing that the scam worked and is still working. Obviously, Croatia's accession to the EU and the desire of all the remaining ex-Yugoslav republics, and principally Serbia, to do the same upsets that propaganda applecart, to say nothing of Russia's unwillingness to play "1914 all over again". So no silly little thing in the Balkans this time around either!

  10. Marko Lozica
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    So, if evidence is not needed to be charged and convicted of JCE then why bring about charges and convictions into a court of justice? The court is all about bringing evidence that will beyond reasonable doubt convict someone of the crimes charged. Please spare the world of your bias and stupidity that comes out from this article.

  11. 5 mos, 4 wks ago

    You make my point for me: if this were truly a "court of justice", it would rule according to evidence, and not according to predetermined political preferences. But I'm "biased" for pointing this out, and you're objective? Heh.

  12. antiwar7
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    I think the court's ruling has it's good side. It shows well how biased it is. The campaign that all 3 Croatian generals led involved: the direct targeting of uniformed UN peacekeepers, the invasion of UNPA's (UN Protected Areas), the widespread targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure (the UN forces observed well the destruction of Knin), the targeting of fleeing refugee columns with artillery and aircraft, the detention of civilians, including women, and a slow hunting down and murder over the next several months of the isolated, remaining old and sick people who couldn't get away. (UN staff kept finding their bodies.)

    Not to mention the tapes and testimony of Croat President Franjo Tudjman's meetings in which he and his minions planned to eliminate the Serbs who had the misfortune of being born in Croatia.

    And yet the Hague tribunal found the people who led this campaign not guilty of war crimes or crimes against humanity. I have this to say to the justices, prosecutors, and investigators on the payroll of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia: Thanks for disgracing yourselves so publicly, you unscrupulous hacks. It's one of the most honest things you've done.

  13. B..
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    @ Threeof Spades

    While "govori srpski da te ceo svet razume" makes rather a local joke (originated, as far as I know, by the presence of Serbian immigrants in every nook and cranny from Vancouver to Novosibirsk, since at least the 1800s), Croatian insistence on chauvinist agendas is unfortunately evident a cornerstone (and, worse yet, consistently shared throughout the nation's political spectrum) of their modern political identity, so there's not much space for "pot calling cattle black" on this one. You (rightly) pointed on Croatian glorification of Ante Starcevic, the nation's Hitler. Incomparable with anything in Serbian political tradition or practice.

    As for your observations on Russian-Serbian relations, there's a bit more to it, if you don't mind. Your Russo-Californian friends should keep in mind that the "duplicitous agenda" and "fickle character" towards Russia have marked only the pro-Empire, Western-funded (and, in effect, utterly quisling) circles of Serbian politics, spawned during the Western in vivo procedure against Serbia (and Balkan Serbs in general) in the 1990s. Back in the day, Russia was virtually non-existent entity in international politics, and Serbs were being collectively punished as "the little Russians" and "Commies", by the vengeful Western (and especially Central European) newly awaken fascist agendas (championed mostly by Croatia on the ex Yu scale).

    Later on, Russia kept on emitting rather confusing signs to the Balkans. Kremlin seemed to have OKed the pro-Western policies of the post-Milosevic, Western-installed puppets, as long as they kept paying insincere lip service to "Russo-Serbian friendship" while pushing the country toward the status of the West's perennial pariah. On two critical occasions, pro-Western Boris Tadic was supported by Russia (or has managed to favorably spin the Russia's attitude towards him being re-elected).

    In terms of the popular attitude, however, there is hardly a room for questioning the Serbian pro-Russian feelings, virtually self-evident on any given occasion. While the revisionist, neo-fascist and sinisterly Russophobic agendas are all the rage in today's Europe (especially in its Baltic border and its Central European heartland), Serbia and Republika Srpska are being among the very few countries IN THE WORLD (save for, maybe, China and Israel) where the magnificence of the Russian/Soviet victory over nazis is being thanked for, cherished and beloved wholeheartedly. Besides, a rather unconditional LOVE for Russia (often unsupported by the given circumstances of past or present Russo-Serbian political relations) is among the most distinguishable traits of Serbian national character; it's not loyalty-to-the-Big-Brother-who-has- done-us-a-favor kind of thing, illustrated with the obscene ass-kissing (as witnessed in Croatian attitude toward Germans or, more hilariously, Albanian 'pro-American' obscenities of naming streets by Bill Clinton :)), it's just one of the Serbian most authentic collective emotions, from the great-great-grandfathers who fasted and lit candles on behalf of "Russian brothers" during the Russo-Japanese war (most of them having first heard of Japan :) just then), to the grandfathers' all-out struggle against nazis (Serbs were the first ones in occupied Europe to resist Hitler) with "Mother Russia" and the heroes of Stalingrad as the undying inspiration. As happened on many occasions, Russian tanks and cannons might have too far away to provide any help to the Serbs back then, but close to Serbian hearts nevertheless.

    @ Serbophobic Attitude

    Yap. The Serbs are so unimportant to the latest Croatian 'victory', that the Croatian chauvinists like yourself are virtually FLOODING every single — even most remotely related — Balkan-oriented comment-board. If anyone would do a simple survey on the Serbian Internet commenting, I guess that Croats would outnumber the Serbs by far, singing the same tune of "you're not important". Get a life, people.

  14. B.,
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    Of course, pot calling KETTLE black, excuse the typo..

  15. Nikkolas
    5 mos, 4 wks ago

    Just as the fact…
    =============================================================================
    Military action "Storm" in the summer 1995th The General Ante Gotovina was preparing a military base near Zadar Šepurine place with then-deputy CIA chief George Tenet. According to Zagreb "Jutarni list" is detail how she came to be with Tenet Cash in Sepurine placve preparing military action, as well as about how nothing was known for 10 years.
    The story is, as mentioned, a few years ago discovered a source close to the defense team Gotovina, who said that the Office of Public Relations umbrella American secret service information on its base in Sepurine place in 2001. confirmed to reporters swarm Gutman (Roy Guttmann) journalist.

    Gutman, is added, then it released a great article in "Newsweek" the American role in the operation "Storm" by the Office of Public Affairs of the CIA neither confirmed nor denied.

    "After the 11 July 1995. Serbs entered Srebrenica, the then U.S. President Bill Clinton decided to militarily intervene and solve the problems in the former Yugoslavia. However, Clinton was then probably more worried about the upcoming presidential
    election and dangerous challenger Bob Dol , which is one of the major campaign promises was solving the crisis in the former Yugoslavia, "the paper said.( Bob Dole received huge donation from drug runnin Albanian cartel known by CIA)
    It should be noted that the head Clinton military-intelligence knew that the war in the Balkans can not only get a powerful air strikes on Serb positions in Bosnia, and the Croatian military alliance to offer top. "It is, in fact, the Clinton semi-secret mission, because this action is not approved by official U.S. policy, and the State Department and now argue that they did not approve military-police operation" Storm ".Specifically, the green light for 'Storm' Croatia from the U.S.
    is not received through normal diplomatic, but through military-intelligence system, "the paper said.
    In addition fmr USA Ambasador who has taken picture on one advancing tanks said in interwiew they approved this action in response to serbs action in Srebrenica.
    Do you need more detail ..Do you need audio tape where head of Croatin state along Ante Gotovina openly sayin that Serbs should deseppied from Croatia..If this the Kangroo Court had this evidence from Serbs they will send every Serbian citizen in the the jail
    Forunatly Croats had Germans and USA for the best friends.

  16. Nikkolas
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    and if additional educational info:
    —————————————————————————————————————————————
    Interesting to say Ante Gotovina before the 1991st was only a sergeant in the French Foreign Legion, the truth of one of its best diver. As in Croatia suddenly became a general phenomenon is turning waiters, warehousemen and butchers in generals. Ante Gotovina, as Commander of the Foreign Legion, has not and never had the knowledge to conduct an operation in which 300,000 Croatian soldiers simultaneous attacks in several directions. For this to happen, the military high school, and he does not have them. Responsibility in the zone where he commanded an indisputable fact, but that he ran the entire "Storm" is a bit surreal.

    "Storm" were planned and conducted by retired American generals organization MPRI, especially generals Charles Vuono and Crosby St. Both of them as well General Senta 1983rd Haed Mitary Academy in the U.S. Army at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., where he then served as deputy chief of the academy. On the Croatian side, "Storm" were planned and conducted by generals of the former JNA, Shower, Stipetić & Feld, who, once a great JNA officers.

    Before that, on 20 July 1995. at the base of stem to Sibenik General Gotovina met with CIA chief George Tenet, which is Zagreb "Globus" wrote ten years ago, and now again it was "discovered" Zagreb "morning paper". At a meeting with the head of the CIA were then Defense
    Minister Gojko Susak and intelligence chief Miroslav Tudjman. In August of 2001. Former Croatian defense minister Paul Miljavac detail was a Croatian-American military cooperation before and during the "Operation Storm". From the exchange of intelligence to U.S. drone
    flights from the airport on the island, all for the Croatian army. What is the penetration through the ranks of the Serbian Krajina Army made precisely and exactly, precisely the weakest joints Border units.

    Bill Clinton had his second presidential elections in 1996. By then it had to end the wars in the Balkans, those who have been developing, in Croatia and in Bosnia. MPRI is "Storm" did the job, the United States gave a general blessing to the "Storm".
    Has anyone in Serbia expected to allow the Clinton family in The Hague at the end of the victory of truth.

  17. The Threeof Spades
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    What do you mean?

    "Oho!" said the pot to the kettle;
    "You are dirty and ugly and black!
    Sure no one would think you were metal,
    Except when you're given a crack."
    "Not so! not so!" kettle said to the pot;
    "'Tis your own dirty image you see;
    For I am so clean – without blemish or blot –
    That your blackness is mirrored in me."

    I don't get it.

  18. B.,
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    You're right, I should refresh my understanding of English proverbs. I've got it mixed up with a Serbian proverb (that you might know as well) with a similar structure but completely different meaning. "Rugala se serpa loncu" ("the pot mocks the kettle") illustrates the situation where a person is ridiculing his/her peer for the traits and qualities lacked by both of them.

    Apologies for the confusion.

  19. Diana
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    Aside from ethnic cleansing, Krajina Serbs could still bring civil charges asking Croatia for damages due to loss and destruction of property (and lives).

    The question is what international court? Or perhaps there are civil lawsuits wending their way through European courts now.

  20. eric siverson
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    So the Hague court is a nazi court , They are not the 1st nazis in Europe . What else would you expect from a nazi court ? No court or people have ever lied this much and not been nazis . Just becuase you don't beleve it doesn't mean it is not so

  21. The Threeof Spades
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    You people are going to give a bad name to the Nazis by so promiscuously using that epithet of the current EU/US/NATO political elites. This a New World Order, new "values", new depths of depravity.
    Nazis and Fascists of the early to mid 20th century should be attacked for all the evil they did, but the current breed is let off the hook by everybody piling up on the people and ideologies long dead.

    These elites should be exposed for exactly what they are and attacked for that. There is endless supply of their lies and misdeeds to expose without "sallying" Nazis' "good name."
    Go!

  22. B.,
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    At least in Balkan-related matters, don't you think that Nazi label often applies flawlessly to the Western policies? From the Brussels/Washington choice of local allies, to the ethnic/territorial rearrangement of the former SFRY, it just reeks on the April 1941. Not to mention the current German policies (alas, so sinisterly 1940s-style ), and all-too-evident ideological framework of the newly created Western-allied Balkan nations (and 'nations' such as the grotesque monstrosity going on the Albanianized 'Kosova') united in vulgar Serbophobia, echoing the 1940s as well.

  23. eric siverson
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    Yes the New world order may ruin forever the little bit of a good name the nazis may have once had .

  24. eric siverson
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    The new world order is only governments that has bested the nazis at lying to their people , before that I have to give the fibbing prize to the Roman empire under Nero . So this might be why some call it the revised Roman empire . The club of Rome

  25. Guest
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    Seems the Croatians made out the best: got all the waterfront property. Could all this Nazi rhetoric over the years made the Serbs skittish when the break up started?

  26. eric siverson
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    I think Russia would love to help the Serbs , But the Serbs have not asked for much of Russia's help . Many Serbs seem to be more interested in joining the Germans in the E.U. this time around . Serbia has to decide where hey want to go before Russia can commit .

  27. eric siverson
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    Obviously you have not been at the Hague trails ?

  28. antiwar7
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    They got the coast through the borders drawn up by half-Croat, half Slovene Josip Broz "Tito". And the Germans strong-armed the European Community at the time to agree to their recognition inside those borders.

    Between the Croat half and Slovene half, Tito appeared to favor the Croats. Post WW II, Yugoslavia got Istria, which it never had, from Italy. How do think Tito carved this new seacoast up between the two neighboring republics? Half-half? Mostly to Slovenia, since Croatia already had the lion's share of Yugoslavia's coastline? (Even a long sliver separating Bosnia-Herzegovina from the sea.) No. Tito gave Slovenia 47 km of coastline out of Istria's 539 km.

  29. office team
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    If there is even 1/100th of truth in "panem et circenses" (bread and games) it is hard to envision how any portion of the American public (where about 80% dye only 5 miles from where they were born), can even remotely fathom the complicated concept of true geopolitical magnitude as it is in the Balkans.
    1. How many Americans can show that they know how Serbs were the original natives in the Balkan peninusule? – Hardly any.
    2. How many Americans can state that Christianity "travelled" from Jerusalem to Constantinopolis through Greece into Serbia in the 9th, 10th and 11th century? – Hardly any

    Therefore facts that we "need here" are hardly worth the mention – or as worthy as lipstick to a pig.

  30. Nikkolas
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    It look like Ramušu Haradinaju verdict has been already known in Kosovo .In the eve of the Kangaroo court. verdict The capital city of Pristine has big billboard put up today saying " Welcome back innocent hero.! So those 22 killed in Gypsy wedding partycan rest in peace…and they where not a Serbs !
    I wonder how they would know…..

  31. Nikkolas
    5 mos, 3 wks ago

    I guess the guy who by his own admition in his book killed Serbian police officers, civilians and non loyal Albanians to KLA and whose 10 ( witnesses end up dead ( secret by UN standards) deserves to walk anyway..I guess you will ask how did I knew….well I am just informed and I don't watch BBC and CNN.

  32. Diana
    5 mos, 2 wks ago

    The Hague calls itself an International CRIMINAL Court> It is not a civil court which is reserved for lawsuits. A civil court can levy large fines for loss of property and life. As in the OJ Simpson Case – he was let go by a criminal court but sued in civil court and found guilty and fined heavily.
    http://www2.icc-cpi.int/Menus/ICC/

  33. 5 mos, 2 wks ago

    Missing nounBeing that human stupidity is immeasurable, it does come as a surprise how the Hague Kangaroo court has managed to unite the Serbs with their most recent verdicts (to free Ante Gotovina, Markac and Haradinaj). Not so far back we (Serbians were brainwashed as to think that our solutions were limited to Euro-Atlantic integrations, joining the EU (and/or NATO) not so much anymore. By siding with the criminal elements that have committed irrefutable atrocities against Serbians the Court has clearly indicated how Serbians should be treated as sub-humans. So be it for my money I would have never even proposed any of the Euro-Atlantic integrations, multi-cultural, pro-homosexual stand and similar goobly-gook that has devoured Europe, in the first place.

  34. eric siverson
    5 mos, 2 wks ago

    This criminal court frees criminals which is bad , but punishes the inocent which is even worse . That maybe why they call it the criminal court . The part that scares me the most is the western world seems to accept this as Justice rendered . These are educated people making these decisions . God help us for we are doomed . These verdicts have been going on for years with a large multi ethnic variable groupe of Judges .I did not believe they could find that many dishonest people , The only thing harder to believe is that many learned Judges could be that willfuly stupid

  35. Guest
    5 mos, 2 wks ago

    The entire Hague is a joke. Look at how God has punished America since the Balkan wars. You can't even recognize the country.

  36. sadik
    4 mos, 3 wks ago

    nebojsa malis je nacionalista i fasista siri idalje mrznju medzu narodima,to je jedan fanatik i lazov,Ja sam zivi svjedok genocida u Srebrenici,pozivam nebojsu malica da se sretnemo da oci u oci na televiziji dokazem koliki je on nacionalista i lazov.FBI bi se trebali pozabaviti njegovim sovinizmom.

  37. eric siverson
    4 mos, 1 wk ago

    Is it true that all the prosecutions wittness against Hardinaju refused to testify , after only ten of the prosecution wittnesses were found murdered .. funny the Hague court could not protect their wittnesses better after the 1st to or three murders . I guess we should give them more money .