Libya: Five Reasons Not to Intervene
Lead us not into temptation (but deliver us from blowback, amen)
As Moammar Gadhafi’s thugs move toward Benghazi, the rebel stronghold, and the provisional government calls for arms and other assistance from the West – principally the United States – we are told to put all doubts aside and simply respond to the alleged moral imperative of preventing a slaughter. This, intone the interventionists, is an “emergency,” which means: we must stop thinking, and respond emotionally to the call to “do something.”
There are several problems with this non-argument, the first being: how do we know the West isn’t already assisting the rebels? I would be very surprised if they aren’t. Libya has too much oil, and is too strategically placed on the Mediterranean shore, to be ignored by US policymakers. And they don’t always make their policy out in the open. Even as the Obama administration is being bombarded by busy-bodies the world over for its “inaction” on the Libyan front, there are reports Washington is acting through the Saudis, providing American military equipment to rebel forces. The British, whose “diplomatic” mission in the eastern half of the country was arrested and expelled, are almost certainly helping the rebels, and the French – who have already recognized the Benghazi rebel government – cannot be far behind.
In any event, even if Gadhafi succeeds in taking Benghazi – an unlikely scenario, because he doesn’t have the troops – the idea that he will have “won,” and can resume his reign of terror, is absurd. Some sort of “consent of the governed” is essential – yes, even in a dictatorship. The withdrawal of that consent is fatal to any regime – that was the lesson of 1989. Gadhafi can march his hired thugs up and down the streets of Libya’s cities all he likes, but actually ruling the country is quite a different matter. My guess is that he will soon be forced to withdraw from the east, and Libya will be divided – perhaps permanently – between Tripolitania and Cyrenaica. Both governments will claim to be the true and only legitimate representative of the Libyan “nation,” although, for all intents and purposes – as I explained in my last column – Libya as a unified country is finished.
Well, then – you ask – why not help the Libyans throw off the yoke of Gadhafi’s tyrannical rule?
I come up with five distinct albeit interrelated reasons (my readers are invited to add to the list in the comments below):
1) Because the moment we intervene, we’ll own what’s going on in Libya – just like we own Iraq. Neocons eager to acquire another Middle East colony are understandably eager to jump into the fray, but there’s less excuse for the centrist-to-leftish “humanitarian” interventionists, who argue in terms of our alleged moral obligation to prevent widespread bloodletting. I don’t hear these people calling for us to arm the rebels in Bahrain or Yemen, who are being murdered in large numbers as they protest peacefully.
2)Because we can’t afford it, either financially or militarily. The US government debt is currently at over $14 trillion, and we’re already in over our heads in Afghanistan and (still) Iraq. With military assets tied up in our other Middle Eastern colonies, where will we get the resources to police post-Gadhafi Libya? And don’t think we won’t have to: see above.
3) Because there are no half-measures in war. Those who protest they don’t want American boots on the ground don’t understand the logic of their own position. A “no fly” zone means an air war against Libyan military installations, and the provision of weaponry presupposes training the rebels to use those weapons effectively: US “advisors” are the next inevitable step.
4) Because we don’t know who we’re supporting. Everyone but the Latin American version of the Warsaw Pact and the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist) is against Gadhafi. Yet that doesn’t mean the rebels – or, rather, their leaders – are necessarily benign.
The present ideological configuration of the anti-Gadhafi movement seems to consist of three major factions: the Benghazi-based revolutionaries, essentially a separatist movement. Their main complaint, aside from being ruled over by a murderous and dangerously nutty dictator, is that oil resources have benefited the western part of the country, to the detriment of the east. The east, called Cyrenaica since ancient times, has always had an uneasy relationship with the cosmopolitan center in Tripoli. King Idris I, installed by the US and Great Britain (under cover of the UN), told he would be monarch of all Libya, bitterly complained that he just wanted to rule Cyrenaica, where he had held court under British protection since the end of World War II.
The other major factor in the opposition consists of defectors from the Libyan military, such as General Abdel-Fattah Younis, Gadhafi’s former Interior Minister, considered the No. 2 man in Libya prior to going over to the rebels. He likely has his own relationship with Washington, developed during the thaw in Washington’s relations with Tripoli. In any case, as a longtime supporter of the Daffy Despot, one can be sure he has plenty of blood on his hands.
A third factor is the Sanussi movement, which has its stronghold in the rural regions of the east. The Sanussi are a religious sect that derives much of its theology from Wahabist and Sufi influences, and all of its politics from a long history of opposing foreign invaders, from the Italians to the Brits. This group overlaps with the monarchists, who want to return the throne of Libya to either one of two current claimants.
A nearly insignificant faction, the National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL), has long been run by the CIA. Oh, and don’t forget the various Islamic groups, as well as the shadowy al-Qaeda franchise. Here’s a comprehensive list of Libyan opposition groups – which ones do we support, and which ones are the Bad Guys? We cannot have the ability to know.
Which brings us to the long-awaited fifth reason for staying the heck out of an affair that’s none of our business:
5) Because actions have unintended consequences, and actions taken by governments are almost guaranteed to boomerang. This is particularly true in the foreign policy realm, where the physical and cultural distance between the generals and the field is much greater than it is at home, serving to reinforce the myopia of know-it-all government officials and “analysts” who, in reality, are just making it up as they go along. The result, as they put it in CIA slang, is “blowback,” the title of an excellent book on the subject by the late great Chalmers Johnson.
The delusion that the US government can effectively “manage” and even “plan” the domestic economy – or, indeed, any aspect of American life – is projected, by our Washington elites, onto the world stage. Yet it is no less of a delusion: indeed, it is a far greater and more dangerous misperception, on account of its sheer grandiosity – and potential to unleash deadly havoc.
Let Libya alone. Let the Europeans jockey for position and their fair share of the spoils. Indeed, neither the French nor the Brits need any prompting from us. No European leader can forget the fuel tax demonstrations that swept the continent in 2000, and David Cameron especially, who endorsed the protests at the time (and endorsed price controls as the solution). As fuel prices rise, and his government’s 70 percent take in the proceeds is deemed essential to pulling out of insolvency, he cannot afford a replay of British hauliers blocking roads. The Brits, after all, signed a security agreement with Gadhafi, and Tony Blair’s very public courtship of the Libyan dictator was as shameless as it was profitable.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
I’ll be on Judge Andrew Napolitano’s Freedom Watch tonight (Wednesday), on the Fox Business Channel: check your local listings for details.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013
- Boycott Israel? – May 9th, 2013
- Carla del Ponte’s Faux Pas – May 7th, 2013





JLS
March 15th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Number 6. Because Libya hasn't done anything that can even remotely be considered an act of war against the US.
If the "we must prevent a bloodbath" interventionists hold to that position then that means we are also morally obligated to invade and overthrow the Chinese government because they opress their people too. I don't even think the unutterably brave warrior Bill Krystal is up for that one.
andy
March 15th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Number six) It isn't any of our business. We have no more call to intervene then Mexico does.
Number 7) The most important one. Libya hasn't attacked us.
MvGuy
March 15th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
China is a BIG Neocon target….. Always has been…… they aren't religious….. They don't seem to understand what G-d wants or favors………or considers ….. "special"……& tend to respect large….
skulz fontaine
March 15th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Reason #8- Mooey Qaddafi is gonna get cacked by one of his own. It always happens this way. Libya is stalemated vis-a-vie the Qaddafi mercenaries vs. the Revolutionaries and ergo, the blood will get annoying real soon. Mooey is losing the PR campaign and that much is obvious. However, it is NOT US business nor concern who might cack the Mooey. Oh heck no. So we shall see what we shall see and I'm willing to bet that the Obama is praying to God Ahmighty that someone, anyone, get rid of the Mooey so the Obama doesn't have to leave himself open to anymore looking bad.
Jan Burton
March 15th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Reason #9) it’s the ultimate no-win situation.
If we stay out we’ll be blamed for another Rwanda and how we stood by and watched a massacre.
If we intervene then most of the world will yell and scream about imperialism, colonialism and a conspiratorial desire to steal oil.
Why the hell would anyone take on such a thankless task?
Let the Arabs (starting with Egypt) save their revolutionary Arab brothers. Tell Egypt to shoot down Ghadaffi`s air force and bomb his tanks.
Instead we find the Arab nations calling for no-fly zones and then waiting for the Europeans or Uncle Sam to take the risks of implementation.
liberranter
March 15th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Reason # 10: Amoricons, their government included, know as much about Libya as I do about oncology (i.e., less than nothing).
While zoological ignorance of all things Arab and Middle East obviously hasn't been a deterrent to Amoricon imperialist meddling in the past, the aforementioned observation is just as valid a truism as ever.
conumishu
March 15th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
So you clearly advocate splitting Lybia!? Which raises a warning sign about how antiwar was presenting the developments there, I noticed the bias but I suspected it's simple lack of decent information although I was wondering where has the necessary skepticism gone. Strange. There are all kinds of meddling, some not so innocent even if no bullets were shot.
Montaigne
March 16th, 2011 at 2:21 am
Hasn't attacked? Don't you know, that in sublime thinking the very fact, that you cannot deny that someone at some time had some connection to circles, that might view some terrorists positively Therefore anybody anywhere can lawfully be killed or tortured, or whatever pleases the black widow spider king, of USA .
A shining light is, that it is becoming more and more obvious, these self-centric ramblings, to anybody, educated or not. That a social madness, that probably will lead to studies worldwide, has gripped the US population, like the plague of the Middle Ages, with only a minority completely immune, but nonetheless victims as well.
Anaksha Fassin
March 16th, 2011 at 4:18 am
Let’s say the West does, successfully, impose a no-fly zone over Libya, and even manages to help the rebels vanquish Gaddafi. Now, suppose tomorrow, the same situation arises in Iraq, where mass protests are growing by the day, and the “government” (certainly a far less legitimate one even than Gaddafi’s regime) is shooting people; or in Bahrain, or most likely of all in Pakistan. When the rebels closing in on Islamabad call for a no-fly zone to guard against the bombing runs of US-made Pakistan Air Force F-16s, what will the West do?
Then, what happens if a rebellion begins in, say, Georgia or Turkmenistan, and the rebels appeal to Russia to impose a no-fly zone? Once a precedent has been set, how can the Empire stop another nation from playing by the same rules? Will the Empire be prepared to go to possibly nuclear war over Azerbaijan or Tibet?
So, a no-fly zone really does not, any longer, fly.
Now, if a no-fly zone is not an option, and a full-scale invasion isn’t an option either, should the West supply the rebels with sophisticated weaponry, either directly or through proxies like Saudi Arabia? If it does, will it also provide the training required to operate the weapons, and can it do so in the time available before the Gaddafi regime overruns Benghazi?
Also, suppose it does provide weapons. Given the circumstances in Libya, where there is a definite Islamist side to the rebellion as well, how can it guarantee that a substantial portion of the weapons doesn’t fall into the hands of Al Qaeda or the Taliban? Answer: it can’t. I’d remind you of the Battle of Mogadishu, Somalia, in 1991, which was filmed as Blackhawk Down. Ten years later, part of the kit of one of the American soldiers killed in that little episode was recovered…in Afghanistan. The same Afghanistan where the Stinger missiles provided for use against the Soviets ended up in Taliban hands.
A tribesman’s loyalty is to his tribe, which is run by tribal elders. Gaddafi’s no idiot, and nor are the elders. They can see as well as anyone else which way the wind’s blowing, and won’t hesitate to change sides overnight if the right bait is offered; everyone wants to be on the winning side. If the Empire trains and arms the members of a tribe with the latest hardware today, can it possibly be sure that they won’t go over to the enemy tomorrow, lock, stock, and smoking barrel? It can’t.
What’s left? Covert operations, using groups like the SAS or the Green Berets? As the capture of the British commandos has already proved, far from all of the rebels are filled with enthusiasm at the idea of foreign intervention. All it will take is the capture or killing of a single one of these covert operators to irrevocably taint the opposition as the creatures of the Empire, something the rebel leadership emphatically does not need. And, when captured SAS men are paraded in front of TV cameras in Tripoli, will the West be prepared to handle the fallout? Will it repudiate them? Go to war over them? What are its options?
Libya is a snakepit now, and the wise person should stay out.
Wootie Berster
March 16th, 2011 at 4:49 am
J wasn't advocating, merely pointing out an historical fact: Libya doesn't exist; it is a fictional entity cobbled up by the Usual Suspects after WWII for their own peculiar strategic interests–oil, in the main. Left alone it will surely return to its natural state: conclaves of tribal groups, each with their own territory. The billionaires lust for control of the oil has nothing to do with the natural slope of the terrain. And what is this warning sign of which you speak? I've followed Antiwar.com for a long time and there is nothing inconsistent about J's position.
Sam
March 16th, 2011 at 4:58 am
You have described very well the libyan situation.
Little Paulie
March 16th, 2011 at 5:48 am
America needs regime change. Ron Paul, 2012.
Jan Burton
March 16th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Good analysis. The US is indeed very fearful of setting the wrong precedent,
As if Egypt, by the way.
If anyone is well-placed to intervene it's the Egyptians. Right next door, huge army, Arab, and they just had their own revolution. But they're sitting this one out as well. Why? Because what will Egypt do when the revolution starts in Gaza and the West Bank and the IDF cracks down?
How can they wage war on Ghadaffi and not on Israel?
Nicholas Kramer
March 16th, 2011 at 6:00 am
#11) Because military intervention – even for "humanitarian" purposes – is immoral and contrary to the founding values of the American republic.
RobertB
March 16th, 2011 at 6:14 am
I hope Gadaffi wins – right now he's showing them how it's done.
Just the spectacle of all the two-faced back-stabbing hypocritical Western 'leaders' kissing his a$$ again will be worth it. The only criteria for Western political ethics is the ability to pick the winning horse.
liveload
March 16th, 2011 at 6:18 am
You speak of precedent. It seems to imply that applying double standards is something the USG worries about. If the side we are currently supporting gets uppity, we just start supporting their enemies, too. Worked well enough for Reagan. Boland amendment? What Boland amendment? Worked great for Bush. Worked great for…just about every one of them. You speak of blowback, but when has that made them sit back and ponder the wisdom of their folly? Did arming and training OBL give them pause when we became the targets of that endeavor?
No, it's all about the money. Libya has little in the way of collateral. Military intervention wont happen until they figure out how to get rich off of it. Once they have a plan, we'll be on our way to "liberate" and "democratize" some more.
Isn't it ironic that most conquerors style themselves as 'liberators'. We've come to free you from tyranny and give you democracy…so you can get busy killing each other over irrelevant social issues while we rob you blind in the shadows. Thus the staus quo never really changes, the bank routing numbers are the only things that change when we intervene.
geo1671
March 16th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Reason # 1 USA's sidekickisreal hired hitman. Uncle Scam has no finger prints in helping KookyDaffyduck–Don't get fooled by Justin's take, that USA/UK/Itlay/France are on the side of the Rebals.Very far from it. How forgetful Justin is, the big blast last week and heconveniently forgets Israel reports, that confirmed that KookyDaffy made a contract with Israel to provide 50,000 Mercenaries http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i-W9hsMgRk
liveload
March 16th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Here's an idea for the beltway punditry; watch The Lion of the Desert, then try and get really fired up to invade Libya. IMDB for you young whipper-snappers who are scracthing your heads saying, "The What of the Who? Never heard of it…" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081059/ (yeah, by the same guy who produced Halloween)
geo1671
March 16th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Must see :^)
Full length movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XqdeYgxMfI
Who killed the director but Moustapha Akkad ???
NML
March 16th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Thank you Justin for covering the "reasons not to intervene" so well. I used to work for an American attorney who constantly complained that "the Americans don't want to fight" because we weren't taking on Iran for the Neocons. I emailed him an army sign-up application after I moved on.
Jamal
March 16th, 2011 at 7:36 am
To falsified western democracy and falsified democrats.., you are bankrupt as capitalism is and you have come to a point in mankind history to chose, either you will chock the people to their death and establish your militarism regime both at home and where your “interests” are.., or you have to make democracy function by its social economic and political principals and by the true meaning of the word and help it grow where ever you hear peoples voice.
To People from African Horn to Northern Africa, to Europe and US and Middle East: be alarmed you need to continue with your uprising demanding your freedom from these monarchs, kings, queens and puppet regimes of betray. These wars are not your wars, these wars are created by the few and for the few, these puppet regimes are there to deal with those whom you are against their brutal rules, these wars are for power hungry and bankers, oil companies and is a emperor wars as China, US, EU, Israel, Islam and Christianity who their primary goal is dividing people by their ethnicity, destroying humanity by destroying their land bombing it and occupying it, destroying the human dignity and prosperity by militarizing the entire world where by the end of the day people would face the 3rd world war. They started with Afghanistan and Iraq now they are at your door step monitoring and limiting your freedom day by day in Bahrain and every where.
liberranter
March 16th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Before you complain about "lack of decent information" on this topic, how about learning to spell Libya correctly first? It might, just maybe, give your complaint a small veneer of validity.
That observation aside, what are your reasons for opposing devolution/succession, in Libya or anywhere else in the world? Are they any different from those voiced by the centralists who reflexively oppose the idea whenever the topic of discussion turns to either the American War to Prevent Southern Independence or the resurgent popularity of the concepts of nullification and states rights in Amerika today? Just curious.
JLS
March 16th, 2011 at 8:33 am
hahaha…did he e ever respond?
RickR30
March 16th, 2011 at 8:49 am
It seems to be unclear what's going on Libya, news coverage is obsessed with Japan's nuclear troubles. But it looks like Gadhafi has won this. The armed rebels are few and underpowered and I can't imagine them keeping a high morale when they bombarded with war aircraft. I suspect that soon Gadhafi will announce that it's all over with and that he controls the country and Europe and everyone else can sleep in peace again. Soon it will all be forgotten as the Japanese nuclear reactor melts down, or not, and Gadhafi will be a good guy again.
Regardless whether the interventionists impose a "no-fly zone" or not, Gadhafi won't comply with anything they decide, at this point any decision is too late, and other than talk, there is no real will to get involved. Even the dumbest people on earth, politicians, know the disaster that Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan is- thanks to intervention. Even they can guess that intervening in Libya is not going to solve anything but cause more trouble.
Now if there were drug plantations in Libya, that would be a different matter, then we would have intervened long time ago. The drug mafia/corporate/government industrial complex can't let drug plantations go to waste or drug business slow down.
conumishu
March 16th, 2011 at 9:40 am
I placed several comments here on libyan events, must have spelled the word correctly tens of times, so your rant is just a rant. In my native language is spelled Libia so… I don't really think I need to defend myself for a typo.
They may secede all they want, but there's no "historical" case here. What some emir or other kind of feudal ruler wanted or not in his time bears little relevance today. I doubt, no, I'm certain no one knows and even less so asked the people there what they want.
Right from the start, the idea of secession featured prominently in the, proven ignorant by all standards, western media. What a coincidence. No one knew anything the day before, everyone embraced the uprising as something in the vein of tunisian and egyptian revolts, and only a couple of days later we hear about the "eastern" region. How so, why put brakes on such a (apparently) momentuos event? How interesting that most of the extracted oil, 80% of oil and gas terminals and most of the pipelines are in the eastern half of Libya.
Grave accusations against G. – airstrikes especially – proved bogus. Until a week ago both russian and US command flatly affirmed there was no ground strike. I have doubts G. is using attack airplanes even now or, if he does, on any significant scale. They may fly, at least for recon purposes, but only a fool takes the silly "proofs" on the ground seriously. Anyway, the french "recognition" and the british "informative" mission trying to legitimize some Benghazi based "government" simply expose the foreign interfering in fueling a "civil war" which, surprise, has one "eastern" side very pro-western. Makes the secession of the mentioned "eastern" side very convenient. Yet, instead of trying to discern what plans have for Libya the already caught in the act foreigners, with well established credentials as colonial powers, we (not the libyans!) should focus about Tripolitania-Cyrenaica differences!? Again, very convenient.
freshnotbitter
March 16th, 2011 at 10:04 am
We know what happened to Rachel Corrie when she intervened just by sitting down peacefully in front of an Israeli bulldozer intent on bulldozing a Palestinian family's home. She was run over and killed. I hope Justin will not mind this little intervention in his blog here on the occasion of the anniversay of Rachel's martyrdom. Here is a link to her parents' statement. http://mondoweiss.net/2011/03/on-the-8th-annivers…
And linking this all to the subject at hand: I guess our intervention would have to be armed. That would mean killing one Libyan to defend another. I am in favor of arming the Libyans who are being attacked by Gaddafi's forces so they can defend themselves against armed force but, as Justin has pointed out, we can be sure that is already being done if there is anybody still at home in our world capitals.
If Gaddafi wants to negotiate with his people peacefully, then nobody is stopping him.
delia
March 16th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Number 6: interference is still illegal in international law, even though the US does it all the time (Who's gonna stop them?) It's like Star Trek's Prime Directive, but Obama is not Captain Kirk, whose heroic duty it is to bend or break it as often as possible.
dink
March 16th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
When the British lost its empire after World War 2, it could not control events in India and Pakistan, and a host full of countries. The US is too much in debt. A mature country that has to pay its bills will have to get used to that fact.
It must grow up to that fact. US foreign policy is basically Israel-centric. You won't hear calls from John McCain or Lieberman to cut the freebies to Israel (despite the facts that Israel is currently a right wing government that fights Obama) and give it to the revolutionaries in Libya. They will want more spending.
I watch the events in Libya, some with horror & fear because Ghaddafi is a thug of a high caliber. I also also watch how the revolutionaries are motivated but amateurish, and wasteful. Reason must win out. Good government means a mature outlook. McCain and LIeberman along with that interventionist faction can not be trusted. Only when they are pushed back, can a middle solution be found. America has to be a republic and not an empire before we expire like the former Soviet Union.
dink
March 16th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
A frist glace that is the cheap impression that Ghadaffi is winning this, yet, there are lots of lies in this. His media is lies. When you dig deeper, he has several weaknesses. He has resorted to hit squads against the western media in west libya and outright arrests in Tripolli. He bribes influence in Tirpolli. He won't send in ground troops with armor because he fears they will defect (Source: India TImes)
His supply lines are extended very far. He is not to be underestimated. He has the military hardware, especially Grail rockets.
His weaknesses: Any protracted war will mean the revolutionaries will get better and his current crop of followers will start to get dispirited. Once the revolutionaries start to get disciplined, and learn how to practice their marksmanship, they should try Stalingrad type tactics. RIght now in Benghazi they are not even building defences (UK Guardian).
RickR30
March 16th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Well, media that is not his is reporting similar stories- things are not looking good for the protesters. Bahrain is a different story though, here it looks like the government is in greater trouble than Ghadafi.
Dale
March 16th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
As I seem to recall the American Republic came about because the French intervention of arming the American rebels, and use of it's Naval forces were the deciding factors in our victory over the British.
When someone is drowning, to look away is immoral.
wittym
March 16th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Obama makes noises about supporting the rebels but does nothing (the crime is encouraging them, then leaving them to death and oppression) meanwhile listen to his new (ex Defence intelligence) head of HLS recent statement regarding Khadaffi's superior forces, a status which is ensured by various factions, probably US, Israeli, Private security firms and why would the Saudis support the rebels? I would guess the opposite.
For 1st time in a while I disagree with Justin. Bet fall of Benghazi within a week. US will cry crocodile tears while making covert deals with Khadaffi, in line behind the Israelis and Chinese.
andy
March 16th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
First of all the framing of your argument is all wrong. As for the French, they had their own strategic and selfish interests in aiding the Anglo colonialists. It had nothing to do with morality.
mike
March 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
I agree with your assessment. Plus the MIC would lose one of it's biggest customers if the regime was overthrown, can't allow that to happen, profits you know.
robt
March 17th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Starting to smell like the Bay of Pigs, unless the US can get the UN to approve bombing a sovereign nation fighting against insurrection…otherwise, just let the 'rebels' hang out to dry if Gaddafi beats back the [whoever they are] group[s].
Anonymouse
March 17th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Question: why did Russia and China abstain and not veto attack on Libya ?
Stekking
March 18th, 2011 at 5:51 am
China and Russia want the US to spend more money on fruitless wars and will lend them the money happily. Their way of strangling the US down onto their knees. The bailiff's knock on the US door will be heard soon as the total national debt is growing and growing.
BARBF
March 18th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
J! Enjoyed seeing you on Judge Andrew Napolitano’s Freedom Watch. Too bad Obama isn't as smart as you thought he was. I have always felt he is no more than a puppet. Larry Pinkney of BlackCommentator informed the American public about Obama several years ago..and no one paid attention:
This is a man, who also like his father before him, neither served in a branch of the US military nor in any organization in America opposed to US military adventurism.
This is a man who as a deeply corporate military industrial complex US Presidential candidate, has called for “unilateral” US military actions in other nations. [And why not? After-all, his father, himself, or his wife and children were not and will not be the ones killing and being killed.]
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perrynoid
March 21st, 2011 at 7:37 am
It would appear that we sure don't learn from history. Long ago I read of a nations leader who, incensed at the despicable treatment of ethnic Germans, threatened (on moral grounds, of course) to "liberate" them. Of course, he went on to invade the whole of Checkoslovakia.
Jeremy
March 21st, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Sanussi get their theology from Wahabi and Sufis……that's like saying that a Christian group gets its theology from Baptist fundamentalists and Gnostics…..
Wahabi and Sufi are pretty much chalk and cheese…..maybe the Sanussi are some sort of strange fusion but more information is needed to amke any sense of this at all……