Rep. Peter King (R-New York) is the kind of in-your-face demagogue that only the state of New York could have elevated to high office. From his perch in the 3rd congressional district, in Long Island, King holds forth like a cruder version of Rudolph Giuliani, if you can imagine it. Yet we don’t have to imagine it, because it will be on full display when Rep. King, in his capacity as chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, presides over hearings on “the radicalization of the Muslim-American community.”
Those hearings portend a circus, in the course of which we’ll be subjected to a very public airing of the malignant views of people like Robert Spencer, Pamela “the shrieking harpy” Geller, and Frank Gaffney, a rogues gallery of anti-Muslimologist “experts” whose hate-filled rantings will further poison the atmosphere of an America itching for a lynching.
Although the neoconservatives were generally discredited in the wake of the Iraq war, when the complete failure of their policies – and prophecies – became all too apparent even to many of them, the dead-enders among them have sought to make a comeback by transferring their war on Muslims from the Middle East to the home front. The Ft. Hood massacre was a godsend to them, and they took full advantage of the opportunity. The “ground zero” mosque controversy was another shot in the arm for this movement, and Rep. King did not disappoint on that front: When it comes to crude bigotry and religion-based divisiveness, we can always rely on King to sink to the occasion, far lower than practically anyone else.
So the hearings will be a farce, a show trial of the Muslim community in which the mere act of putting up a defense gives the prosecution a legitimacy it could never achieve on the merits of the case. Because there is no organized pro-al Qaeda, pro-terrorist tendency in American Islam to speak of, at least so far. Which is why the FBI has had to resort to entrapment in prosecuting alleged homegrown “terrorists.” The last one was a confused Somali teenager, lured by the FBI into planning a bombing that never came off: the Ft. Hood shooter, although supposedly “inspired” by the American-born radical Islamist Anwar al-Awlaki, was a lone gunman, and not part of a terrorist cell or a larger network. The Obama administration made strenuous efforts to link the Times Square bomber to the Afghan Taliban, but since Faisal Shahzad pled guilty, that aspect of the case – which never held together very well – didn’t have its day in court. Indeed, all the domestic “terrorist” events since 9/11 have been committed by the prototypical lone gunman, and linked to psychological rather than political issues in the killer’s mind.
Yet there were and are those who have a direct interest in establishing all sorts of links where none exist: the Obama administration to further its foreign policy goals and justify a war, ambitious prosecutors who want to score points and make a name for themselves, and cretins like Rep. King, who have an ideological agenda they want to pursue to the very end, which is the prospect of us treating American Muslims much like Franklin Delano Roosevelt treated the Japanese-American community during World War II. Indeed, one particularly vicious neocon wrote an entire book justifying the Japanese internment camps in order to set up American Muslims for a similar scenario.
I’m not the only one who has pointed out Rep. King’s own flirtations with political violence – such as his open support for the Irish Republican Army and its front group, Noraid – but I hasten to add that such hypocrisy is merely a reflection of a more general double-standard when it comes to political violence.
We have the example of former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani, former secretary of homeland security Tom Ridge, former White House homeland security adviser Frances Townsend and former attorney general Michael Mukasey traveling to Paris to endorse the Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK – Peoples’ Mujahideen), an organization characterized as a terrorist group by the US State Department. MEK has attacked US military and diplomatic personnel, and has been described by former members as a cult: ideologically, the MEK started out as a far leftist group, but like the neocons who have taken up its cause, has traveled to the other end of the political spectrum, offering itself up to the US government in much the same way as Ahmed Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress (INC) became the instrument of US war plans in Iraq.
MEK’s American supporters want to use it as a battering ram against the Iranian regime, and yet this exile group has even less credibility than the Chalabi organization did: what support they had inside Iran evaporated when they fled to Iraq and took up with Saddam Hussein, whose government succored and armed them. MEK fought in the Iran-Iraq war – on the Iraqi side. That hasn’t stopped American neocons from riding this particular hobbyhorse: “For your organization to be described as a terrorist organization is just really a disgrace,” bloviated Giuliani at the Paris confab – although the families of those Americans murdered in cold blood by MEK might disagree. That a former US Attorney General would endorse a group with American blood on its hands is what ‘s really disgraceful, but Mukasey shamelessly declared that the US ought to provide “all possible technical and covert support to those fighting to end oppression in Iran,” i.e. put the MEK on the CIA payroll. Townsend, too, made no bones about her support for the group and its terroristic mission: “If the United States truly wants to put pressure on the Iranian regime, it takes more than talk and it takes more than sanctions,” she said to the assembled terrorists.
If terrorists can be utilized as an instrument of US foreign policy, then they become “freedom-fighters,” as Ronald Reagan dubbed the Afghan forebears of the Taliban during the 1980s, when they were fighting the Soviets with American help. This attitude is shared by the Obama administration, which has not only stood by while prominent Americans have rallied to MEK’s cause, but has also failed to distance Washington from other US-linked groups engaged in terrorist activities against Iran, such as Jundallah, a Sunni extremist sect carrying out attacks in Iranian Baluchistan.
More than that, Obama’s Justice Department has been actively going after Americans who travel abroad in support of left-wing “terrorist” groups, such as FARC and the Palestinian resistance. In October of last year the Justice Department raided the offices of the Antiwar Committee in Minneapolis, and also the homes and offices of left-wing activists in Chicago and North Carolina, and subpoenaed 19 people to appear before a grand jury fishing expedition.
Their crime? They had traveled abroad to engage in solidarity work with FARC and Palestinian resistance groups, which are on the State Department’s list of “foreign terrorist organizations” alongside the MEK. Unlike Giuliani, Townsend, Mukasey, and Ridge, the left-wing activists rounded up by Eric Holder don’t have top level connections in Congress and the Washington think-tanks, they don’t have editorial support from the Murdoch media empire, nor do they have the financial resources required to fight an all-out assault by the Justice Department. So they are harassed and prosecuted, while those with powerful connections and political pull go free – although both groups have engaged in exactly the same sort of activities.
Which just goes to prove, once again, that there are two sets of laws in latter-day America: one set for the powerful, and another for the powerless. Political violence is something that the US empire encourages when it is in its interests to do so, and condemns when its interests are threatened by unauthorized free-lancers. In every case, our rulers seek to use this kind of violence as their instrument, and this operating principle is underscored by the reaction, in some quarters, to the assassination of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
The dead bodies were still on the ground in the parking lot of that Safeway store in Tucson when the left wing of the blogosphere was howling for “tea party” blood, blaming everyone from Sarah Palin to Ron Paul for the heinous crime. “Hate speech” had “incited” the assassin, one Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old nutbag who lived not far from the murder scene. The local sheriff used his fifteen minutes of fame to opine that none of this would’ve happened if not for certain people “on the radio.” The Huffington Post was ablaze with commentary linking Loughner to the “tea party” – because, after all, both Loughner and the tea partiers are “anti-government”! Having just been walloped, big-time, in a national election, the “progressives” were quick to call for “right-wing” blood. A Democratic official told Politico on Sunday that “they need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers … just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people.”
At a time when free speech is under assault on every front, “liberal” groups and politicians are eager to make the case for laws against “hate speech,” hopeful that this will put out of business right-wing talk radio and other manifestations of political incorrectness, or at least have a chilling effect. After all, they opine, just as we are the “only” Western country that doesn’t have socialized medicine, so we are practically alone among our European cousins in not having “hate speech” laws.
The attempt to characterize Loughner as a tea partier has absolutely nothing to do with anything he said or wrote: indeed, quite the opposite is the case. If we look at his YouTube videos, they are simply incoherent, ranting about how Loughner is into “conscience dreaming,” and railing about government “brainwashing” – typical paranoid ravings without any real political content, either right or left. A series of tweets by a former friend, one Caitie Parker, show that when she knew him, in 2007, he was a radical leftist – and his YouTube video featuring a flag-burning (hardly a tea party-ish type of activity) is certainly suggestive of that, although I wouldn’t draw any firm conclusions one way or the other.
Because what we are talking about here is not ideology, but psychopathology – although I’ll be the first to admit that the two often intersect. In this case, however, there is absolutely no indication – so far – that politics had anything to do with it. A mentally unstable individual, who disrupted classes at Pima Community College, where he was a student, with sudden outbursts, simply fixated on a public figure, and acted on his delusions. Yet the swiftness with which the “progressive” crowd glommed on to Loughner as a symbol of everything they think is wrong with this country indicates just how ready we are for a real honest to goodness witch hunt: how we are itching for a lynching, if only someone with all the requisite characteristics of a lynch-worthy victim would turn up.
To a ruling class pining for a “crisis” – one that will put them in the drivers’ seat and allow them to get away with smearing their enemies and repressing the opposition – the Tucson massacre is a golden opportunity, and you can bet your bottom dollar they’ll take full advantage of it.
For the ruling class, the uses of political violence are many and various – even if the violence isn’t being committed (this time) by our overseas allies or our own CIA. We hear a lot of babbling about how this means we have to tamp down the supposedly appalling “polarization” of our society, tamp down the “rhetoric,” and learn to love the middle ground. “Extremism” is the enemy of the day, and anyone who wanders off the straight and narrow is a dangerous potential “terrorist.”
Bullshit. Of course our rulers – who are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, both financial and political – don’t want any polarization. Instead, they want us to calmly accept our fate under their system, and go down quietly. They don’t want WikiLeaks exposing their overseas criminality, they don’t want anyone questioning their own criminal activities on the home front, and if you rock the boat you’re an “extremist” with “terrorist” inclinations, a candidate for the no-fly list and an investigation by Homeland Security.
This is the world they’re working to create: an America where speech is regulated, where the internet is controlled by the government, and the only political violence allowed is that engaged in by the US military on a massive scale, and practiced on nonwhites, preferably overseas. Are you ready to live in that world? I’m not, but then again, I may not have much choice in the matter.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013
- Boycott Israel? – May 9th, 2013
- Carla del Ponte’s Faux Pas – May 7th, 2013





Gene
January 9th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Great closing paragraph, Justin. What indeed should we call the U.S. killing of people in Iraq, Palestine, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Pakistan? How many Pakistanis were slaughtered by predator drones over the past week? I would bet it is more than the casualties from the shooting in Tucson. Is that not "political violence," too?
A side question: Justin refers to the perception of government "brainwashing" as typical paranoia. Is it not the case that the government often distorts, omits, and deceives?
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musings
January 9th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
It does seem fishy that (lately) many relatively small incidents involving the sick violence of an individual becomes an occasion to connect dots and/or impose a new security measure which generally insults and inconveniences the unoffending public (often to the profit of those imposing the measures).
Six people dead in an Arizona parking lot is six people too many of course. But is it off-scale for the US? Absolutely not. Losers go medieval on their extended kin during the holidays, with similar body counts. Disgruntled workers go back to where they were fired and take out their former colleagues and bosses. Students kill classmates and professors. Is there a pattern? Did the internet cause it?
I think there are trends in violence, and sometimes greater efficiency. But security cameras are usually about fuzzy hindsight, and when the police show up, the deed has often been done. Of course "alienation" is to blame. I have seen people trying to clamp controls on the internet in the wake of this particular tragedy.
I will say that it is DEBATABLE whether the killings in Tucson were politically motivated (even if by a nut). It is just a little convenient the way that liberals and their causes are attacked – from abortion clinics, to their doctors (we know there has been incitement and self-justification there — aka organized warfare with shock troops), from the deaths of the Kennedys and ML King, to the hostage taking at Hillary Clinton's campaign HQ.
It is never correct for so-called progressives to lump people like Palin and Paul together, for I think that is absurd. But the aggressive antics of Gov. Palin could seem to be a greenlight, though not in the Arizona case. I would imagine however that this young man who did the killings lives in an atmosphere like the one JFK entered on the day he was shot. But instead of billboards calling him a traitor, the message is over the radio or internet. In all cases these extreme positions have been taken by very rich nuts who are basically saying, as Henry II said of Becket, "But who will rid me of this meddlesome priest." Or liberal, as the case may be.
anonymous
January 9th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
It might be worth reviewing what Thomas Szasz said about the Virginia Tech shooting: http://fee.org/articles/in-brief/dangerousness-is…
BINSAFI
January 9th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
[.. how we are itching for a lynching, if only someone with all the requisite characteristics of a lynch-worthy victim would turn up....]
I could come up with a Long List of People, with all those "requisite characteristics" that are Worthy!
Sometimes, Silence is a Virtue!!
Peace, Love & Respect.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 9th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
The coverage of that massacre in Tucson in the French media is simply sickening. Actually, it's more or less the same as in the US media. And those folks dare call themselves journalists. They didn't even try for instance to find out who that representative was and what she stood for, what laws she supported etc.
So how can they affirm that the shooting was politically motivated? As it appears, she's more likely to have been collateral damage in a madman's killing spree. But who cares for facts? And who cares for the other victims?
Bianca
January 9th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
By why is it that the violent language, and suggestions of violence coming from the various representatives of Tea Party, Ms. Palin, various church leaders, Rush Limbaugh and assorted Fox rent-a-ranters — are always to be tolerated as OK? When do we say ENOUGH! We all see what is going on, and the absurd stance our Government takes when it comes to terrorists and criminals overseas that suit political winds of the time. To your list of examples, please add Kosovo, as another gruesome "friends" we fought to give a smacking new country to! The head of the country was leading heroin kingpin in Europe way before he was converted into "freedom fighter". His criminal empire includes slave trade and killing people for organs. And he was praised by Senator Lieberman as "kind of people that share our values..". We know all that. But, please — if there is anyone to blame for the downward spiral in civility in this country are the "liberals" that are never around to condemn it, until it is politically attractive. Where is the sanity?
Johnny in Wi.
January 9th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
It seems tha only the Israeli's are allowed to use political assasinations without reproach. Of course you are right. We use drones to kill people we disagree with and if women and children get in the way, so be it. The left has always been worse than the right about political violence. The Communists murdered 100 million of their own people, who they thought were their enemies. Even Hitler never did that in his own country.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 9th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
"Because what we are talking about here is not ideology, but psychopathology – although I’ll be the first to admit that the two often intersect."
You are so right.
tommauel
January 10th, 2011 at 12:29 am
Glenn Beck just a few months ago was promoting the idea that a gun target should be put on certain democrats and other leftists. On his national talk show.
bob35983
January 10th, 2011 at 12:52 am
I'm not a psychiatrist & I don't play one on TV, but … Beck has a screw loose anyway. It ain't that long ago Beck called for Ron Paul supporters to be rounded-up and put into camps. Actually, I can't think of any group Beck hasn't collectivized and demanded something be done about them over the past many years. Oh, that includes his "moderate" years when he used similar rhetoric against the GOP.
"Gun targets" on "certain Democrats"? Boo-hoo. President John Adams used to walk past effigies of himself hanging from trees on his way to the Executive Office. American politicians put REAL gun targets on REAL people all the time. If a Beck can be blamed for this tragedy, then who is to answer should something happen, for example, to Julian Assange?
An individual committed this crime & an individual is responsible whether he heard voices in his head or coming from the radio.
GradyWilson
January 10th, 2011 at 4:54 am
Justin, you don't think that sister Sarah having a map with a gun sight's crosshairs over this Congressperson's district, and Sarah using terms like "its time to reload" is a variable to comment on at all?
You think that McVeigh's terrorist act was unjustly "pinned" on the militia and anti-government people?
Its not coincidence that lynchings were a large part of your beloved confederate political way of life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_Unit…
"The Tuskegee Institute has recorded 3,446 lynchings of Blacks and 1,297 lynchings of whites between 1882 and 1968".
I guess those were all about individual psychotic actors rather than the predictible outcome of a political ideology founded on hate?
John V. Walsh
January 10th, 2011 at 5:27 am
As a man of the Left I think the Democrats' posturing about the Sarah Palin cartoon targets is pathetic, as is Obama's hypocritical decrying of violence. Which is worse the cartoon cross hairs depicted by Palin or the real cross hairs aimed at innocent civilians from the drones and helicopter gunships and bombers that the mass murderer Obama sends forth daily? (Such cross hairs are shown in all their ugliness in the video of the earlier Wikileaks address.)
But of course the hundreds of thousands maimed and wounded by Bush and Obama are Muslims so it is alright for the Dems not to mention it. Talk about a political ideology founded on hate! But that is what Empire always comes down to – America's included.
bogi666
January 10th, 2011 at 5:32 am
Some people relish in the fact that what they say can influence other people, like putting cross hairs of those they disagree with. Incidents like this, the murder of a 9 year old girl, people like Beck may take some satisfaction that he empowers people to do what he says. The USA with its pretend christians[biblical harlots] doctrine[babel] of "I'm not responsible, god told me to do it and/or Satan made me do it but I'm not responsible" a doctrine which is readily used by politicians, preachers, and businesspersons as their disclaimer to avoid being responsible and the general public accepts and then uses the "I'm not responsible" doctrine as well. The fact is that some people shouldn't own a gun, people like me for instance. Good comments Grady, keep up the good work.
GradyWilson
January 10th, 2011 at 5:39 am
I didn't know that fascists considered themselves "of the left"? You seem very confused.
Sarah's crosshairs and "time to reload" rhetoric is not a 'cartoon' you fool. Its deadly serious – similiar to the anti-abortionists putting abortion Dr.'s names and addresses online for their 'individual psychotic' followers to act on.
And Obama's and Bush's evils do not somehow justify or minimize the history of domestic violence perpetuated from the right in the US. Yes cluster bombs kill more than right wing domestic terrorists but so what – they're both evil.
Susan
January 10th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Ww don't live in the age of John Adams. I would like to think that we can somehow evolve?
GradyWilson
January 10th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Remember this exchange in one of Justin's columns ?http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/10/28/anti-interventionism-then-and-now/#IDComment106750942
Johnny: Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. We are trying to cleanse the country of the fools who have got us into this situation, on both sides. We are trying to do it with the ballot box, but most of us on the right are armed to the teeth and don't forget it.
Grady: Sick Puppy Johnny represents the true nature of Raimondo's beloved Tea Partiers – violent fascists threating to 'cleanse the country' if not by the ballot box then by arms.
Raimondo: Grady, you're just another bourgeois liberal! Who woulda thought? So when they declare martial law — say, after another 9/11 — what are you going to do — crawl under your bed and hide? Gives new meaning to the phrase "reds under the bed." hahahaha.
Montaigne
January 10th, 2011 at 7:23 am
"The head of the country was leading heroin kingpin in Europe way before he was converted into "freedom fighter". His criminal empire includes slave trade and killing people for organs. And he was praised by Senator Lieberman as "kind of people that share our values.."
For once I would consent to Lieberman's opinion!
Tim
January 10th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Grady, there are nutjobs on both political extremes of the aisle, both left and right. Unibomber? Extreme environmental and animal rights activists? Even if this guy is an extreme right winger, does that mean THAT was the reason he went on this shooting rampage? NO. Because he smoked pot, does that mean he went on the rampage? NO. Because he was a leftist 3 years ago, does that mean he went on the rampage? NO.
But that doesn't even matter in this situation, as there is NO, and I repeat NO evidence that this person was influenced by Sarah Palin or any other extreme right wing stuff. Is it possible he was? Of course, but we have no evidence to say this RIGHT NOW. Because he talks about government mind control, the constitution and currencies, he is automatically a extreme right winger? A left winger could talk about mind control and the constitution, why not?
I could easily write a news headline saying, "Arizona killer, a radical pot smoking leftist according to people who knew him, was heavily influenced by the Communist Manifesto."
Or I could easily write "Arizona killer, a radical leftist, was upset that Giffords, A Conservative Democrat who supported Border control and guns rights, had abandoned her liberal beliefs and considered her a traitor."
I would be drawing just as many conclusions as the Left is making right now from the little they can dig up from his youtube page.
Bianca
January 10th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Sorry, will not cut it any more. As a very sick country that has lost every bit of its reputation in the world, it is time to at least restore some semblance of civility at home. Our "patriotic' movements are controlled by FOREIGN corporations that seek only benefits for themselves. Fox is a foreign corporation trying to tell Americans how to be patriotic! We have lost our collective minds.
The comments here are full of outrage over Afghanistan, Iraq and other horrors. Good. Suddenly, it is OK to justify the violence at home?
It is not good enough to dismiss this crime as an act of a mentally disturbed person. We cannot continue to overlook the ever more vitriolic hate spitting machines of the likes like Rush Limbaugh, Palin and FOX. Unless we can stand up against the politics of violent language, what chance we have standing up against the outrages far from home? If we do not do it, great people like Ron Paul will be deliberately tarnished by Rush Limbaugh's foreign corporate sponsors, as he is really dangerously AMERICAN. As opposed to the newly minted Florida Tea Party that is DECIDELY in favor of foreign corporate interests of endless wars. Let's wake up.
Johnny in Wi.
January 10th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Grady: What we have here is a failure to communicate. The left has preached and practised violent revolution and political mayham for 150 years. Look at all your heros, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, Che Guevera, Castro, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Mingh etc. The greatest group of mass murderers that ever existed. Hitler was a reaction to communism. That why rightwing opponents of the left are called reactionary. We on the right have armed ourselves because most political violence comes from the left. There are far, far more murders and other violent crimes committed by people who vote left, rather than right. Most conservative and libertarian people just want to be left alone to spend our own money as we see fit without being pushed around by people like you.
Gene
January 10th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Great post.
RickR30
January 10th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Great article describing the…[words fail] of our government. If some lefty wants to express "solidarity" with terrorist murderers like FARC, fine, that's just stupidity and ignorance. But if US officials travels overseas to support terrorists, that's something else, beyond even treason. And exactly why are these corrupt swine supporting Iranian terrorists? What's in it for us? At whose behest did they travel to Paris?
The law is applied in three ways, I would say. One for the powerless, one for the rich and powerful, and the law doesn't apply to the political class of inbred idiots. Otherwise, scum like wolfowitz and the rest of them would be rotting in Gitmo.
The Tucson shooting is just going to give the usual clowns more ammo for them to babble the same gargage. Ban guns, ban the right, ban the Tea Party, ban the internet, ban everything and everyone that's not liberal or neocon.
And the anti-Muslim party is not about Muslims at all but about restricting more liberties of American citizens. Why is that every time some supposed Muslim terrorist fails in his FBI-induced attempt to blow up his clothes, immediately the American people are punished?
Jaime
January 10th, 2011 at 10:35 am
It's true that some of these criminals from the left have assassinated people en masse, but what a not so subtle way to say, "Compared to these, my heroes from the right like Hitler were not such bad guys after all". Now, it doesn't make sense to say that the poor guys from the right needed to arm themselves as if the US had ever had a totalitarian communist regime . This is an argument I could understand in Europe where the left has at times swayed much more power or in the ex Soviet Union where the right was crushed. Can you provide data to support your opinion that most violence comes from the left? Instead of pointing fingers to blame someone for the violence, why don't you start with yourself by stopping categorizing people and dividing camps between "you" and "us".
alexgeorge
January 10th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Raimondo is at it again!. The tiny tyrant, Ahmadinejad, and his henchmen should be proud of him.
There is really nothing new in his piece. He has been repeating these stale allegations for many years and sounds like a broken record to anyone with the slightest knowledge of Iran's history, especially since the 1979 revolution.
I am not going to dignify his slurs against the MEK. But suggest to sincere and objective readers of Antiwar.com to read the attached links.
Beware not to fall for Tehran's sophisticated disinformation campaign to demonize its opposition, in particular the MEK. http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/07/05/… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-safavi/reality-… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-safavi/reality-… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-safavi/mujahedi… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-safavi/emrealit…
RickR30
January 10th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Is it April Fools' already?
liberranter
January 10th, 2011 at 11:47 am
One would hope that this would have occurred over the span of the last two hundred and twelve-plus years, but, sadly, the evidence for such sociopolitical evolution just isn't there. While Adams' extra-Constitutional depredations were almost completely reversed by his successor, Jefferson (who was elected president in large part as a reaction to Adams' extremist and dictatorial behavior in office, as manifested in the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts), we must remember that Americans at the time, having just emerged from the Revolution, held the Constitution and Bill of Rights to be living, breathing, BINDING documents and were not about to stand for an executive dictatorship.
Alas, we live in no such nation today, as is evidenced by broad support among the Sheeple (of a bi-partisan flavor) for the emerging Police State. If anything, devolution is the operative term here. Where this relates specifically to the Tucson shootings, I can tell you, as a resident of this helpless, hopeless city that its denizens never EVOLVED in the first place, so that puts at least one small hole in my theory. As a practical manifestation of its condition, expect lynch mobs of both the Right and Left to start forming, not in response to the events of the shooting, but because that tragedy provides a convenient pretext for the blowing off steam and "raging against the machine" in the most destructive manner possible.
bozh
January 10th, 2011 at 11:53 am
justin:
"Which just goes to prove, once again, that there are two sets of laws in latter-day America: one set for the powerful, and another for the powerless."
yes, and in mesopotamia for at least 10 kyrs. or one cld say that people of mesopotamia had lived under lawlessness or diktats since ten k yrs ago.
regionals or provincials [as french called own serfs] of the region called "u.s" have also lived under lawlessness for the last 4c.
so, the rulers of the region had good teachers: russians, french, italians, saudis, persians, poles, et al.
let's face the fact: we are owned; each person to a diff degree. we r takers, they are givers; they r commanders, we r obeyers; we r servants, they r mastsers of wars and people; they r strongly interdependent; we r strong depenendencies.
but still people think: we have sheriff and bananas; pie is large, too large, still. so, what else cld one want? tnx
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 10th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Just out of curiosity, where did you pull that the French called serfs "régionaux" or "provinciaux"?
What's your problem with Persians? Aren't you Croats supposed to descend from them. Oh, I forgot, you have Macedonian ascent, and Alexander and the Persians…
As for Poles… :-O
muggles
January 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Excellent column as usual. Notice that both the (Democrat) Pima Cty Sheriff and Obama immediately began to blame "vitrolic" poitical speech. What is that? Any heartfelt critique of the Democrats and their agenda. According to the Democratic spinmeisters, Sarah Palin has cast a witches spell over every screw loose to incite violence. And if someone took a shot at her? Well, that's different. No one has been "vitrolically" critical of her.
This Tucson violence was tragic. Just like the violence the US military is unleashing every single day.
Mezenc
January 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
So why didn't the Congresswoman have some security at her event?
Thats where I'd put the blame: No security presence at the event. If the Congresswoman had better judgement, she would have made sure to have a couple of uniformed police officers on the outskirts of the event and the chances are just seeing armed police would have scared the nut off.
Heathcliff_Maw
January 10th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
The impression that is emerging is that Loughner is likely a paranoid schizophrenic who did not attack Giffords because she is a Democrat or because of how she voted on any issue, but because she was an incarnation of the government he feared. Loughner did reflect, according to reports, views of anti-government conspiracy theorists and a white supremacist/anti-immigration group. His paranoia was, it seems, looking for something to cling onto. To what degree those fringe groups inspired him to carry out a mass murder may never be known.
However, violent demagoguery does have consequences. Remember Bill O'Reilly's long campaign against assassinated Dr. George Tiller "the Baby Killer"? Or the guy who was arrested en route to massacre employees of the ACLU and the Tides Foundation who said he was inspired by Glenn Beck? And who can forget "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"?
Heathcliff_Maw
January 10th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Tim, Loughner was influenced by various fringe groups that promoted anti-government conspiracy theories (9/11 was a government operation, NASA missions are hoaxes, there is a plot to establish a New World Order with a universal currency not backed by gold, David Wynn Miller's bizarre theory that government is manipulating language and grammar as a form of mind control) and a white supremacist/anti-immigrant group named American Renaissance that he mentioned in several Internet posts. That doesn't mean Loughner was a Tea Party member or had any coherent political philosophy. It seems to me that he is a paranoid schizophrenic.
Also, the assertion that in high school he was a "leftist and very liberal" is completely based on a tweet from a woman who went to high school with him and it's not known on what basis she made those characterizations. He certainly was not reflecting any leftist or liberal leanings in recent years.
The bottom line is that he is mentally ill. I believe he would have attacked Giffords if she had been a Republican, had voted differently and if Sarah Palin had never been born.
Caveman
January 10th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Are you sociopath or is your head simply so far up your rear end that you only care about stopping the death and destruction if it means you get to blame Sarah Palin? Just because cluster bombs and right-wing terrorists are both evil that means you get to pick and choose which deserves your approbation and which you meekly and obediently ignore? The US military (led by a "man of the left") destroys more lives in one day than the most delusional right-wing crackpot could hope to destroy in a lifetime. Moreover, our leftist Commander-in-Chief has the the direct authority to put much of the destruction being wrought by our military to an end. But, no, you don't want to talk about that. You just keep your cowardly head down and your forked tongue silent like a good little leftist "soldier."
Tim
January 10th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
1. What fringe groups was he influenced by? How does anyone know this yet and when is the evidence? Are you drawing this from his incoherent youtube video rants that make no sense? The American Renaissance affiliation has been debunked.
2. About the tweet from a woman. That is exactly my point. Just from a tweet from a woman, I could create a whole news headsline painting him as a leftist pot smoker, which is no different from painting him as a crazy right-winger because he said something about gold and silver in a crazy youtube video.
GradyWilson
January 10th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/01/10
When Michael Enright, a white male, was arrested for slashing the throat of a Muslim NYC cab driver in August of 2010, his friends said he had a drinking problem.
When Byron Williams, a white male, was arrested after opening fire on police officers and admitted he was on his way to kill people at offices of a liberal foundation and a civil liberties organization, in July 2010, he was an unemployed right wing felon with a drinking problem.
When Joe Stack, a white male, flew his private plane into a federal building in Austin, Texas, in February 2010, he was angry with the IRS.
When a white male is accused of mass murder, white terrorism is not much talked of. Rather the mass murder becomes a terrible tragedy but not one where race or ethnicity or religion need be examined.
Now, if the accused had been Muslim, does anyone doubt whether this mass murder would have been considered an act of terrorism? US Muslims could have expected increased surveillance and harassment at home and the places where they work and worship. They could have expected a Congressional inquiry into the radicalization of their people. Oh, Representative Peter King (R-NY) has already started that one!
GradyWilson
January 10th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Poor Sarah is a victim – like all conservative white christians!
Just because she wants her fellow fascists to "Get on Target for Victory" and "lock and load"/"take up your arms" while advocating a "second amendment solution" the damn librels want criticize her just because god fearing Sarah Palin puts a bull's-eye on 20 House districts under a headline that read – "We've diagnosed the problem…Help us prescribe the solution."
Its obvious that satanic left is attacking Sarah because she's a christian!
GradyWilson
January 10th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
"I believe he would have attacked Giffords if she had been a Republican, had voted differently and if Sarah Palin had never been born. " -H_M
Its just a coincidence that he shot someone Sarah Palin was openly 'targeting' while advocating "Second Amendment solutions" and using rhetoric like "don't retreat- reload"? You don't see any possibility that this guy could have been influenced by such rhetoric?
I'm not saying that Palin has any legal culpability – I'm pretty much a First Amend. absolutist – but I don't find it hard to believe that people are influenced by this rhetoric. You better believe that if Sarah were Muslim and the shooter was Muslim then the US gov and the christian zealot right would be linking the two and going after and silencing Sarah the Muslim.
Larry
January 10th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
The man wants you ta keep takin it up the ass… so he kin come take ur guns. Then it's on, bah gawd !! Ya'll ain't gittin mah gunz!!!
*Sounds of a shotgun being racked*
*snarling*
Richard Estes
January 10th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
actually, Justin, there are some people on the left that see through this in our particularly ways, such as myself and Louis Proyect
"Don't Worry, Sarah, I've Got Your Back":
http://amleft.blogspot.com/2011_01_01_archive.htm…
"Thoughts on Arizona":
http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/thou…
Duglarri
January 10th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
When pundits on the right say things like "maybe it's time for a second-amendment remedy", and when they say, "right everyone! Time to lock and load!" and some nut-job out takes them up on it- they're surprised?
I think there's general agreement that there are nut-jobs around. I think there should be agreement that they can be swayed.
What's not agreed is whether or not it's reasonable, in a democracy, to allow politicians and pundits to go around making lightly veiled threats to their armed followers.
Of course rational, well-balanced members of their audiences will realize they're speaking metaphorically when they imply that it would not be such a bad thing if their followers took up arms and gunned down the other side.
It's hard, though, to believe that they're not fully aware that they're playing with fire.
Strider55
January 10th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Don't forget, Justin, this is the same MSM that in 1991 labeled the hard-line Communist coup against Gorbachev (the failure of which assured the final collapse of the USSR) as "right-wing." A sneak preview of Bizarro World.
Also a slight correction: As Rep. Giffords is still alive, it's an "attempted assassination."
RickR30
January 10th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
We have a problem with whites there, huh, Wilson? And just what would the examinations into white race, ethnicity, and religion tell us, according to you?
Perhaps the reason you don't hear much about "white terrorism" is becuase there isn't such a thing. ETA is probably not white enough to you and since they're communist pigs, you wouldn't consider them terrorists either.
Heathcliff_Maw
January 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
What do you mean the American Renaissance affiliation has been debunked? That group claims he was not a member, but the DHS memo Fox News claims it has a copy of says that Loughner mentioned the group in several of his Internet posts, not that he was a member.
The information on his fascination with government conspiracy theories comes from stories in the New York Times and Yahoo news. Loughner had a presence on the Internet beyond a few YouTube videos.
Heathcliff_Maw
January 10th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
According to a couple of his friends, he held a grudge against Giffords going back to 2007 when she didn't answer a strange question he posed to her. That predates Palin's target graphic by two years.
Heathcliff_Maw
January 10th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
If Loughner had been a Muslim, his actions would have been interpreted differently because that's the climate at this time. However, I don't consider him a terrorist. His were the actions of a lone, deranged individual much like that guy who carried out a mass murder at Virginia Tech a couple years back.
GradyWilson
January 11th, 2011 at 3:55 am
so me simply linking to previous comments of a previous Raimondo article gets me negged? wtf?
comments in which "Johnny in Wi" openly uses the threat of gun violence, I take offense, and Justin jumps in defends psychotic Johnny and goes on a personal attack against me.
You people are deranged.
GradyWilson
January 11th, 2011 at 3:56 am
Well I guess that clears up everything.
Or does it?
"Arizona Shooter's Obsession with Returning to the Gold Standard" http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-news/blog/max…
GradyWilson
January 11th, 2011 at 4:01 am
No – I'm pointing out that conservative white male mass killers are treated as "isolated incidents" while muslim killers are treated as part of a global terrorist organization. Is this that hard for you to comprehend?
Again – just think if Sarah was Muslim and this shooter was Muslim. Would Sarah the Muslim be in trouble with the FBI and Homeland Security? She'd probably be assassinated by Obama.
GradyWilson
January 11th, 2011 at 7:09 am
"I tell people don't kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for."
- Rush Limbaugh, Denver Post, 12-29-95
"Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him."
- Rep. James Hansen (R-UT), talking about President Clinton
"We're going to keep building the party until we're hunting Democrats with dogs."
- Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX), Mother Jones, 08-95
"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."
- Ann Coulter, New York Observer, 08-26-02
"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."
- Ann Coulter, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, 02-26-02 http://www.truth-out.org/the-wrath-fools-an-open-…
GradyWilson
January 11th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Where does one start in the wake of the political killing spree that occurred in Arizona on Saturday?
With John Wilkes Booth putting a bullet into the head of Abraham Lincoln?
With the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy?
With the shooting of Martin Luther King?
The right-wing culture of hate and implicit coded call to kill the enemy, as if on a mission from God, is a subset of our larger national culture of violence.
From our policy of maintaining superpower status through wars and coups to going back to the conquest of America by the slaughter of Native Americans, we have had a history of a large segment of our population that views violence as a remedy for personal and political grievances – as well as the fulfillment of ideological goals. For them, "putting down your enemy" is as American as apple pie. http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/12194
RickR30
January 11th, 2011 at 8:22 am
They are treated as isolated incidents because they are. In all the examples you describe, the intent was not to foster terror, which is the intent of terrorists- Muslim, communist, etc.
RickR30
January 11th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Nothing American about killing and violence. It's a religion in the Middle East, practiced for millennia and that they're proud to continue. In Africa, they're starving to death but always find the energy to kill each other. The lefty half African-American messiah only ramped up the killings. The leftist culture of death is legendary: FARC, ETA, Sendero Luminoso, Alfaro Vive, Baader-Meinhof.
It would be nice though of all those Washington liberals in power could give diplomacy a try and that Hollywood liberals would stop cranking out movies and TV shows where violence is the solution to all problems.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
January 11th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Actually, after more info, the crime does seem to be politically motivated. The guy was a bit confused, wasn't he, as to where he stood politically. Extreme for sure, but left or right? Now, what does it have to do with the Tea Party? Believe me, I'm completely neutral on the subject, neither pro nor con. Just saying that before judging, one should try to get informed.
Raashid
January 11th, 2011 at 9:08 am
I do wonder whether we are seeing the seeds of a Second American Civil War being sown here. Expelling Muslims from the US will likely be the first and least messy part of it, as the second and third stages of that civil war, involving a Hispanic insurgency and Anglo-Protestant Holy War could dwarf any such war ever seen in history, given the size, population and weaponry available.
sleepy
January 11th, 2011 at 9:54 am
You are absolutely correct.
I differ though on your characterization of Obama as a man of the left. Seems to me that his all out support of the financial industry at the expense of the working and middle classes, not to mention his gung-ho neocon foreign policy, places him squarely outside whatever most folks would consider the left.
Perhaps, he is the "left" in some sort of uniquely kabuki political theater, but certainly not so by any historical or international norms.
I am of the left and despise Obama.
GradyWilson
January 11th, 2011 at 9:56 am
from Juan Cole – a frequent contributer to antiwar.com when he's not speaking of inconvient truths about the right
"…… Glenn Beck playfully spoke on his radio show of murdering Michael Moore with his own hands. Rush Limbaugh suggested that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi were worse than Middle Eastern terrorists and that maybe our Pentagon has the wrong people in its sights. Ann Coulter expressed the wish that Timothy McVeigh had bombed the New York Times building rather than the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. These are major media personalities with millions of followers, who have been made multi-millionaires by corporations precisely because they routinely authorize the intimidation of workers, ordinary people, and thinkers who challenge the political status quo. So let us survey their hate speech, which in a civilized country would make responsible businesses ashamed to employ them and a conscientious public ashamed to listen to them…….
… http://www.juancole.com/2011/01/naw-theres-been-n…
Tim
January 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Grady, what is your point in regard to the Arizona Killings. I am not sure with what this has to do with the Arizona Killlings? Until there is evidence the killer was influenced by "right wing" crazies like Limbaugh and Beck, what is your point? Until you let me know what the association is between right wing talk radio, right wing hate speech and Jared Loughner, you are just another person using this event to try to make a point irrelevant to what happened.
I could post a link displaying many years worth of "hate speech" coming form people on the left, but it has nothing to do with Arizona.
Tim
January 11th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Grady, what is your point in regard to the Arizona Killings. I am not sure with what this has to do with the Arizona Killlings? Until there is evidence the killer was influenced by "right wing" crazies like Limbaugh and Beck, what is your point? Until you let me know what the association is between right wing talk radio, right wing hate speech and Jared Loughner, you are just another person using this event to try to make a point irrelevant to what happened.
demize!
January 11th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Ahhhhhh, sorry I voted you down by mistake. The boxes are blurry on my phone. This left versus right shit is tired. See you a boot licker or not is where it's at for me. Ideology I'd important and doctrinal differences can be important, but it's coming up on zero hour and I'll ally with any genuine anti authoritarian, whether they eminate from the left, right, or neither.
Jeremy Sapienza
January 12th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Please watch Jon Stewart on exactly this tactic you are employing here: tv.gawker.com/5730178/
The world is far more complex than you would like it to be. You blame the things you already hate whether or not there is a shred of evidence to support your claims. This is because you wish you could draw straight lines between all the world's dots, and thereby control or prevent certain events. But you can't. So you rant.
Jeremy Sapienza
January 12th, 2011 at 11:10 am
You're really a dishonest loser. Nothing in Walsh's comment is remotely fascist. You're a troll with no coherent argument to make so you retreat to hurling baseless insults which, unfortunately for you, are actual words with meanings.
Jeremy Sapienza
January 12th, 2011 at 11:34 am
The Enright case was very angering because there he was clearly motivated by anti-Muslim hatred. An obvious and glaring double standard. We all agree on this point.
Not sure what the point of the second case is — he's obviously right-wing and anti-civil liberties, and though he may have been drunk I don't see that getting him off.
Joe Stack was attacking an institution, though quite sloppily, and violence is certainly not advised. However, he — like Muslims who also carry out attacks — are motivated by the terrible actions of those they think they are attacking. Stack didn't harm the IRS, but innocents near one of its offices. Shahzad would not have harmed the US govt or its military if the bomb had gone off in Times Sq, but harmed many innocents that just would have happened to walk by. In fact his actions only strengthen the US govt. Neither could be considered completely sane.
Anyway, it obviously makes little operational sense to examine "ethnicity" in any of the cited cases of white men as most American men are white and so this is not notable. I think that mercifully we have (mostly) been spared anti-Semitism charges in the Loughner case because both the shooter and Giffords have one Jewish parent.
MoT
January 13th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
It is twisted isn't it. The elites burble about "cutting" the increases in spending…. not actually stopping or going back… and that qualifies as being responsible. So instead of going a thousand dollars deeper into debt, or the means to pay it back, you spend nine hundred! Woo Hoo! See how responsible I am! These people are indeed sick.
MoT
January 13th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Beck, from my being forced to watch his drivel at a friends house, is a pompous ass. I so tire of his "lectures" and blackboards. What I've learned after being thus tortured is that there is a segment of the populace who embrace his ranting because it emotionally empowers them. Same for other pundits pandering to their particular segment of the public and its fickle tastes.
MoT
January 13th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Good lord man! I can't stand Palin at all but this obsession with graphic artwork and how it somehow coerced a nut job to kill innocent people is beyond me. I guess then that Muslim kook in the Netherlands was coerced into killing that film maker because he was pushed over the line and not because he actually had any personal responsibility.
jackbootstate
January 14th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
"…They don’t want WikiLeaks exposing their overseas criminality, they don’t want anyone questioning their own criminal activities on the home front…"
I don't recall any calls for civility in our discourse last month when certain pundits and politicians, like Mike Huckabee and Bob Beckel, were calling for killing Julian Assange and Bradley Manning by any means necessary. Of course, Obama isn't at all compelled to give lectures about the violent tone of the rhetoric aimed Wikileaks and whistle-blowers in general on the airwaves these days. Instead he is ordering an "investigation" (witch hunt) of Wikileaks and torturing Bradley Manning every hour of every day. Obama's very hateful and violent actions against Wikileaks and Manning is clearly aimed at intimidating whistle blowers. Don't expect to hear too many liberals counting this as political violence and lecture people about "stopping the hate."