The Obama Boomerang
Pro-Obama lefties get slapped down – by the FBI
FBI raids on six houses in Minneapolis and Chicago, including the office of the Minneapolis Antiwar Committee, have the antiwar movement – and the left in general – in an uproar. Agents came barging into homes guns drawn, kicking down doors and smashing furniture, armed with search warrants. The warrants described, in suitably vague terms, allegations of “material support for terrorism.” No arrests were made, although a number of individual activists were served with subpoenas demanding their appearance before a grand jury. Computers, documents, phones, and other materials were carted away by burly FBI agents, who appeared at 7 a.m. sharp, locked and loaded.
Let the frame-ups begin!
This Palmer raids-style fishing expedition is apparently aimed at members and supporters of an obscure Marxist grouplet, the Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO), a Maoist remnant founded in the 1960s which came out of the “new communist movement” documented in Max Elbaum’s Revolution in the Air. What drew the attention of the authorities to FRSO was apparently their “solidarity” work on behalf of the Palestinians and a Colombian leftist insurgency known as FARC.
More about FRSO later, but in the meantime let’s look at the context in which all this is occurring. Why it seems like only yesterday that the Justice Department’s Office of the Inspector General issued its report on the illegal surveillance, infiltration, and systematic harassment of antiwar groups, including the Merton Center, in Pittsburgh, the Catholic Worker organization, and Greenpeace. The report has been described by many as “scathing,” but in the process of trying to whitewash FBI Director Robert Mueller, it also succeeds in minimizing the crimes of the political police as they sought evidence to frame up a bunch of pacifists as potential terrorists.
In justifying the infiltration and extensive surveillance, FBI agents told the IG that, since the individuals involved were advocates of “direct action,” the activities of the Merton Center/Catholic Worker raised the possibility of “arson attacks” on military facilities. Remember, this is the same FBI that, under J. Edgar Hoover, spied on and tried to destroy Martin Luther King. An arson attack these thugs can understand, and deal with, but the concept of nonviolent resistance is a direct affront to their entire worldview – and a much more potent threat to their power.
The surveillance of the Merton Center, and specifically of a 2002 protest against the Iraq war, was supposedly initiated in order to garner information about “an ongoing terrorist investigation,” and so Director Mueller testified in hearings before Congress, but that turned out not to be true. A great deal of the IG’s report is taken up with defending Mueller, personally, who supposedly didn’t know there was no ongoing terrorist investigation that required the agent’s presence at the rally, where he took photographs of participants and collected literature. Or, at least, this agent didn’t know there was such an investigation – although there was – but went anyway, because he was a “probationary” pig, and was just trying to please his supervisor: his presence at the antiwar rally, however “ill-conceived” it may have been, wasn’t carried out “because of the Merton Center’s antiwar advocacy,” it was just “make-work.” And if you believe that, then I have a P. T. Barnum quip at the ready I won’t even bother typing out.
“Ill-conceived,” but legal – that’s the IG’s verdict on the Merton Center surveillance, because the FBI’s shenanigans fit the very loose legal parameters applicable under the PATRIOT Act. After all, the rationale goes, it’s possible that the subject of an ongoing investigation into al-Qaeda’s Pittsburgh cell might attend a protest against the Iraq war given by Catholic nuns. Just as I suppose it’s possible Osama bin Laden could convert to Christianity and become a Trappist monk.
In an editorial, the Boston Globe denounced the FBI’s actions as “red-baiting,” but this is incorrect: A footnote in the report seeks to justify the surveillance, or at least make it more politically palatable, by identifying the Center as an “anarchist” enterprise, one devoted to “mutual aid” as well as fighting war and State oppression. Now that the Soviet Union is gone, there aren’t all that many reds around to be baited – they’ve all either gone into real estate, or else gone to Washington to take jobs in the Obama administration. It’s those darn anarchists who are the new bogeymen, bomb-throwing radicals both Chris Matthews and Rush Limbaugh can vilify in unison.
Since the PATRIOT Act and subsequent legislation gave the feds a blank check to spy on us, law enforcement agencies have taken the opportunity to cast as wide a net as possible over the legal activities of American citizens whose only goal is to change American foreign policy. Under Bush, and now under Obama, the government is engaged in a systematic campaign to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat the anti-interventionist movement on the home front, all under the rubric of “anti-terrorism.”
The FBI invasion of antiwar activists’ homes and offices is the latest chapter in this ongoing campaign: as our troops take Kandahar, our political police are taking Minneapolis and Chicago.
The target of the raids, the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, is interesting because its history gives us a capsule summary of what happened to the antiwar movement of the 1960s and 70s – and a lesson in why the current antiwar movement is floundering.
FRSO came out of the generational radicalization that created Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and energized a mass left-wing student-based movement. When SDS splintered into a couple dozen fragments in a frenzy of factional warfare, FRSO emerged from one of the splinters known as the Revolutionary Youth Movement (II) – the Revolutionary Youth Movement (I) being something altogether different, you see. In any case, as more and more of these young radicals began to go into real estate, or take up Zen Buddhism, the dead-enders either joined the Weathermen and went underground, or else joined one of the plonky neo-Stalinist “parties” – i.e. sects – that sprang up like mushrooms on a fallen tree.
FRSO was one such grouplet, formed out of the merger of the Maoist Revolutionary Workers’ Headquarters (which had previously split from the Revolutionary Communist Party), and the Proletarian Unity League. Both of these groups had been highly critical of the “ultra-left” doctrine, tactics, and strategy of the Maoist movement, and sought to salvage those activists who survived the flight to bourgeois respectability.
The idea was to rebuild the movement by carrying out a holding action, but the result was yet another split, with one faction deciding that the entire basis of Marxist-Leninist theory had to be reexamined with a critical eye – these are the “Left Refoundationists” – against the upholders of orthodoxy, who called themselves FRSO-(Fight Back). There are, today, two organizations which call themselves the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, with the orthodox faction winding up in the sights of the FBI, and the Left Refoundationists winding up in … “Progressives for Obama.”
One comic side note of the raids is the Left Refoundationist denunciation of the FBI’s attack on their ex-comrades, which, after decrying the incident as “part of a growing governmental trend targeting the left,” and pointing out that “the [African National Congress, which currently governs South Africa] was on the ‘terrorist’ list right up until they won electoral victory in South Africa,” is careful to point out, in bold print:
“Although the organization in question has a similar name to ours, we are different organizations. (We are officially Freedom Road Socialist Organization/Organización Socialista del Camino para la Libertad (FRSO/OSCL).) We were not targets in these raids.”
In other words: it ain’t us! It’s those guys over there:
“These raids and arrests have the effect of stifling dissent and foreclosing democratic rights of minority viewpoints. We should be concerned, whether or not we agree with the politics of the targeted organization.”
The Left Refoundationists went into the Democratic party, and were active in “Progressives for Obama,” an outfit cooked up by Tom Hayden, FRSO-“Left Refoundationist” and AFL-CIO bureaucrat Bill Fletcher, Barbara Ehrenreich, and Danny Glover, whose job it was to get these former militant commies to the polls on behalf of the Great Change. The orthodox FRSO-ers, on the other hand, continued along the “Marxist-Leninist” path, meeting with leftist insurgents in South America and occupied Palestine, but still feeling the pull of the Great Change. As their “Main Political Report” on the domestic situation for 2010 puts it:
“The election of Barack Obama as the first African American President of the United States is a contradictory event. In part the election of Obama was a referendum on race in the United States, a referendum that came out surprisingly positive … Obama’s election represents a rejection of the Bush administration policies and a desire amongst the people for a progressive agenda from the government. Immediately following his election there was a sense of optimism and a feeling that change is possible. This is a very good development after so many years of Bush. ”
I wonder if they’ll revise that last sentence in light of recent developments.
I think it’s safe to say the antiwar movement was unprepared for this kind of attack from an administration they hailed as “a very good development,” and I’m not just talking about FRSO. The idea that the election of a black man whose resume reads “community organizer” is going to change the face of US imperialism even slightly is an illusion brought on by the identity politics that have long since replaced Marxism (or any coherent ‘ism) in the canons of the left. If many have wondered who let the air out of the antiwar movement, it was precisely those “radical” leftists who, like the “orthodox” Marxists of FRSO, signed on as the “left” wing of the Obama cult. That’s why they didn’t see the mailed fist of the State coming even when it was a few inches from their faces.
The Minneapolis and Chicago raids are just the beginning. The logic of the “war on terrorism,” and its legal machinery here on the home front, is an ever-expanding campaign to associate political dissent – and, specifically, dissent from our interventionist foreign policy – with violence and treason. And it will be a lot easier to pull this off under a “progressive” veneer. Remember, Bush’s political police just spied covertly, as well as targeting Islamic charities and shutting several down: Obama’s KGB is conducting open raids on the offices of domestic antiwar organizations. Anybody who gave a dime, or an hour of their time, to the Minneapolis and Chicago antiwar groups in which FRSO involved itself is now apt to be on an FBI “terrorist watch list.” Under this “progressive” President, the FBI isn’t just taking photos of us at antiwar events and following us to the grocery store: it’s kicking down the front door and taking our stuff.
The escalation of Obama’s wars abroad is being matched, and more, by an escalation of the war on dissent at home – and the antiwar movement is caught unprepared, in shock that this “community organizer” and his buddies in the Justice Department would go after them. So watch out, comrades: that FBI agent at your door may be a “Left Refoundationist” of a particular type.
Okay, aside from the ideological lesson we can draw from this, what can the antiwar movement do, concretely, to defend itself from attack? What’s needed is a legal defense organization, one narrowly devoted to providing assistance to those who find themselves targeted on account of their anti-imperialist views. The network that’s grown up around the defense of Bradley Manning ought to be expanded to include not only the FRSO activists but all future targets of state repression – and, believe you me, there will be more.
The ruling elite has never been more nervous, because their rule has never been more brittle: the economic collapse foreshadows a political collapse that can only be prevented by a crackdown and general tightening of the rules of the American “democratic” system. They’re making up these new rules as they go along, and the process is still ongoing, but of one thing we can be certain: the Constitution is a dead letter. It no longer exists except as a document kept under glass, venerated but never obeyed.
In an atmosphere like this, anything is possible: repression, mass raids, and, yes, even dictatorship (in the name of “preserving democracy,” naturally). We are in for some hard times, and certainly some tumultuous times: if we’re going to survive, we must shed any illusions that the State is going to back off, or give us a break, because, after all, “our” guy is in the White House. The Obama administration is the enemy of freedom at home and the main danger to peace abroad – and progressive opponents of war and domestic repression need to either acknowledge that, or else give up the fight. The Obama boomerang has hit them squarely upside their heads: now they need to pick themselves up off the ground and face reality.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





A grateful reader
September 26th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Meanwhile, Obama is asserting that he has the right to sentence Americans to death with no due process or charges of any kind and that his decisions as to whom will be killed and why are "state secrets," and thus no court may adjudicate their legality.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald…
Avi of Mondoweiss
September 26th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Because much in the same way the Air Force, Pentagon and the Navy had Israel firsters gathering information on behalf of the 51st state, "sympathetic" District Attorneys and informants are tipping the FBI to whichever group AIPAC or the Mossad deem a threat to Israel's agenda, both in the Middle East or in the U.S.
Former Mossad officer, Victor Ostrosvsky, wrote that the Mossad had close working relations with the ADL in the U.S. Whenever the Mossad needed to put pressure on an American politician or when sought to smear an American public figure, they'd call up the ADL and give them the name. The very next day, the ADL would come out with accusations of anti-Semitism against that American.
That's how these things work behind the scenes.
mickperry
September 26th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Maybe it is with the perspective which distance affords, but for many of us here in the UK, Obama's magic spell only lasted long enough for him to name his new administration. It then became clear as day that he was going to neutralise the anti war movement in a way that Bush could only have dreamed of. How after all can you say you are an advocate for change and then surround yourself with retreads from the Reagan, Clinton, and two Bush gangs?
It wont be such a big step for this crowd to move from issuing fatwa's against US citizens abroad to doing the same thing at home. It isn't just post traumatic stress disorder which is coming home with the troops, but seven more years of experience for the Empire in learning how to handle popular dissent. I'd say a visit from the Feds is the least of our worries right now.
Don
September 26th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
….and I'm an American with the same opinion…labels be damned.
sherban
September 27th, 2010 at 2:34 am
So long Mr.Obama is hated in Israel (and he is more and more) means that he is a good President and an obstacle for a war with Iran.So long he is called a Muslim in US (and of course in Israel),a socialist,a commie,or not a capitalist in US (and even by The Economist) mean tghat he is a good President.
Lloyd
September 27th, 2010 at 3:16 am
How's that "inside-outside strategy" working for you progressives?
bogi666
September 27th, 2010 at 3:45 am
As usual the anti progressive commentators,including perhaps especially Justin, have no class but just the bullying McCarthyism[the vindicated, according to Justin] methods. Cyberbullies, how disgusting that your arguments are so trite with puny mindlessness that the tactics of an alcoholic and paid[bribed] corrupt Senator are still used. As for me I'm a Libertarian Socialist.
jojo
September 27th, 2010 at 4:23 am
If only Justin would stop protecting the Israel Firsters and do a piece on–Sept 11 2001 was done on purpose and USED human bait (3500 dead) to sucker western citizens to attack middle east countries and start hatred towards muslims.
Well known that Israel was US paid to do the dirty deed. Time for Justin to stop being nice. Land of the free / Home of the Brave–I can only think of only one brave American,he sits in military jail–Young Manning.
Montaigne
September 27th, 2010 at 4:50 am
I think it was a great article and eye-opener from Justin. I hope ACCOUNTABILITY FROM GOVERNMENT ACTIONS will become raised in any election meeting, the coming of Congress, and the following one of President.
E.g. what about having an international court settle things instead of an Amercan one with political masters? If not that, then PROVE to the electorate you have a firm and cconvincing plan to drag those scoundrels before a court of law, notwithstanding claims to "security" A claim to security is (also) an admission of some illegal wrongdoing or cheating and therefore ALWAYS should force anyone claiming that OUT OF OFFICE before any further proceedings. Does the US live on lies? Is it necessary to survive? Only to survive as a scum!
GradyWilson
September 27th, 2010 at 5:11 am
If this group supports the Palestinians and FARC then I seriously doubt that they can be honestly labeled "pro-Obama" as the consistently intellectually lazy Raimondo does.
Does anyone ever wonder why heavily armed self proclaimed 'enemy of the state' libertarian and tea party groups itching to water the tree of liberty with blood never get violently raided? Because the fascists in gov know that the libertarians and tea partiers are their like minded brothers not political adversaries.
boutet
September 27th, 2010 at 5:39 am
Justin is 100% correct. Remember the United States Supreme Court crowned Bush II the victor in a presidential election. That should have proven to the most delusional person that America was essentially no more democratic than North Korea or Iran.
Maid Marian
September 27th, 2010 at 6:25 am
I am an American who thinks most of "our leaders" are sacks of shit.
Maid Marian
September 27th, 2010 at 6:27 am
When future historians write of the country once called the United States, her blind support of Israel will feature prominently in her downfall.
Yaphap
September 27th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Something very similar to this happened in my, relatively small and rural, home town. A squat team burst into the home of a local physician in the dead of night, leveling machine guns in the faces of her two teenage sons. They actually struck down a female West Indian exchange student who had become hysterical. Allegedly, there had been a bogus report of a "neo-Nazi" terrorist plot on the part of her elder son! Also, supposedly, homeland security was not even allowed to identify the source of the accusation! They confiscated several computers which have not been returned almost two years later, along with several Russian classical music CDs as evidence of "rightest sympathies".
I speculate that the motives behind the raid were purely political, and it just goes to show that certain interests have complete control of our governing apparatus at every level.
Bill
September 27th, 2010 at 7:09 am
These raids go to show that we all better have good computer security and password (or passphrase) protocol. They may take the computer but it won't do them any good if they can't get in.
Alan MacDonald
September 27th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Like the recent police-state physical raids by the FBI on anti-war activists, this Internet spying by the global corporate/financial/political/militarist EMPIRE, which hides behind the facade of its two-party Vichy sham of democratic government, is actually a great sign of progress for all working-class Americans who fight for anti-EMPIRE and pro-democracy movement in the US.
Actions like these two tyrannical oppressions by the ruling EMPIRE here in the US itself actually demonstrates both the absolute truth of Hannah Arendt's prescient Nazi-era warning that "Empire abroad (always) entails tyranny at home", and also clearly demonstrates that the Vichy global corporate/financial/political/militarist EMPIRE that has fully 'captured' the US government (as the Nazi Empire had captured and occupied France) is now apoplectic about the threat that the genuine and fast growing pro-democracy and 'anti-Empire peoples movement' poses to the global Empire directly in its US headquartered lair.
Ralph Nader, Kevin Zeese, and many thousands of other pro-democracy and ANTI-EMPIRE intellectuals and academics are building the totally peaceful Global Anti-EMPIRE Peoples’ Movement within the belly of the US beast and this direct confrontation with the global Vichy Empire that has captured our former US government through the totally corrupt two-party Vichy facade is causing extreme pressure on the Empire — which in turn is causing the Empire to show its neo-fascist fangs and 'tip of the empire spear' even here in its supposedly safe and placated US home base, and against US citizens themselves.
As Hannah Arendt noted, and as the German people themselves learned too late, an Empire which claims only to practice militarist "empire abroad" will always turn against its own people and expand inward to domestic "tyranny at home".
As these clear signs of tyranny against our own US citizens increase (as they are now drastically increasing) even as the imperial media and entertainment distractions of NASCAR, "Meet the Press", WWF, and "Dancing with the Stars" expand in lunacy, an increasing percentage of non-elite and oppressed US citizens are finally realizing that they are on a path toward feudal Empire, economic oppression, and now 'police-state' tyranny at home —- and a current 21st century second-generation of American “minute-men” are clearly seeing "which way the wind is blowing” —- and this throws fear in the heart of darkness, in the heart of Empire.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Good Luck
September 27th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Actually the more the lower layer of government do this stuff the more it appears that Obama is just a figure head. Not really in control of anything. Obama seemed a bit in control when he stopped the DEA from closing down medical marijuana dispensaries.
Tom L
September 27th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Which is the same as saying you're a Catholic Atheist.
Ta,
Bianca
September 27th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Does the insurance cover the breaking of furniture, doors and other damaged or disappeared property? I cannot see why not, if no charges are brought, and totally unnecessary violence was practiced. This is no different then when a fire department in my neighborhood once broke into neighbor's condo window and trampled inside, instead of the unit next door that was on fire.
Chris Moore
September 27th, 2010 at 7:57 am
"Why does the Zionist project never seem far removed from these crackdowns on domestic freedom and dissent"
Zionism is a comprehensive ideology, not unlike Communism and Fascism. In fact, it has elements of both, in that it seeks to use a vast, monolithic, authoritarian State in pursuit of its particularistic agenda.
Americans of both Left and Right are having an incredibly hard time coming to terms with the fact that there is essentially a Zionist shadow government that straddles both parties that is for all intents and purposes running the country, but obviously Obama knows this, and Obviously Bush knew this, because in both cases it was integral to their governance.
We need to quit thinking of Zionism as an Israeli issue or a Mideast issue or a Jewish issue; it is THE issue of our times. Those who dismiss this by now self-evident fact are likely in its thrall — whether they even know it or not. Denying its centrality to our politics and even our culture is how it has been heretofore so successfully able to operate under the radar and penetrate our way of life so thoroughly.
Flushing it out into the open is half the battle.
epppie
September 27th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou for writing this, and so strongly. The Left continues to delude itself about Obama and the Dems, and their delusion is becoming more willful, more insane, more dangerous. As you say, the armored fist is inches away and we are pretending it isn't there.
James
September 27th, 2010 at 8:38 am
"federal agents took "any documents containing the word Palestine,"
If that does not prove beyound a reasonable doubt the reason for all the wars, then nothing will. It is all 100% done for the shitylittlestate.
shane
September 27th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Many of us 'kooky' libertarians could've saved you some time and let you know Obama was shit from the start.
Alan MacDonald
September 27th, 2010 at 9:16 am
What Obama meant
Now we know what Obama's fantasy campaign meant by "Yes, WE Can"
—–
"Yes, We Can" spy on all you working-class peons, proles, and serfs
who use the internet — and "Yes, We Can" raid your foreclosed hovels!
Yes, We (the ruling-elite Empire) Can do anything we want to you (poor defenseless masses) — and I (gutless faux-Emperor Obama) won't raise a finger.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
shane
September 27th, 2010 at 9:16 am
You Lefties REALLY look like useful idiots now!
Hows that "Hope and Change" working out?
Rob
September 27th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Great, great article Mr. Raimondo.
bin Laden, US political elites : 1
US people : 0
we'll keep you posted, but it's up to us to win the next round.
From the Center from Constitutional Rights, "If an Agent Knocks" booklet is linked on this page : http://ccrjustice.org/if-agent-knocks-%28-booklet…
Some history from the ACLU of FBI spying on US population : http://www.aclu.org/spy-files/more-about-fbi-spyi…
Rob
September 27th, 2010 at 9:43 am
"Divide and Conquer" – you're falling for it too…
The best way to get out of this mess is for people to come together and understand exactly what is going on, and not to succumb to the petty labels and the false, simplistic "left, right" dichotomy. Obama, by he way, has very little of the "left" about him, trust me. The terms have become empty shells for people to fill up with whatever they feel like, much like "terrorism", "democracy", "freedom", etc…
liberranter
September 27th, 2010 at 11:33 am
What more proof does anyone need that the current occupant of the Imperial Palace, for all of his election rhetoric about "change," is no less of a figurehead than any of his predecessors?
hardtruth
September 27th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
"What’s needed is a legal defense organization,"
ROFL. Will you still be saying that when its drone strikes, Justin?
Wolfgang9
September 27th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Thank yo, Justin, for the great article!!
For me these action (which have definitly the blessings from the White House) show, that under the current power relations in the US,no politician will ever be elected to be president who is not in agreement with those who are really in power and act almost invisbly in the background. And those in the beckground who are pulling the strings will keep people uninformed about that. I more and more think that the power of the US president is limited. That was shown already by the first actions of Obama after he took power: He continued basically the same foreign policy as GWB made. He even took over the entore military leadership including Gates. It looked like that he wouldn't even care about his promises before his elections. So who is this who is pulling the strings in the US??
W
bogi666
September 27th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
How very Libertarian of you to decide who's Libertarian and who's not. If being a Libertarian Socialist is good enough for Noam Chomsky, it's good enough for me. Noam wouldn't resort to being a cyberbully for Libertarianism as he would realize the irony in doing so, being a linguist and all.
bogi666
September 27th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
West Indian, she may be black. If so a hint of racism perhaps.
bogi666
September 27th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
The USG is just using their terror tactic in Iraq and AfPak as the training ground for weapons systems and domestic terrorism tactics to be used domestically.Why doesn't USG terrorism domestically count as terrorizing the "Homeyland". The DHS terrorist acts against innocent Americans are as terrorist as the boogiemen conjured up and entrapped for their thoughts, and the USG THOUGHT POLICE, whom come to me in my bed, the THOUGHT POLICE get inside of my head, the THOUGHT POLICE, POLICE, POLICE…………….! To borrow a refrain from the Cheap Trick song, The Dream Police.
nonaggress much?
September 27th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
clown.
please tell me what is unlibertarian about a completely voluntary and noncompulsory socialism?
oops sorry, when the last universal property owner kills everyone else for "trespass" we'll be free
Tom Luongo
September 27th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
There's nothing wrong with it.. it just ain't terribly libertarian. Social control of the means of production implies a ruling body of some form. What happens when you disagree with their diktats of what is to be produced?
Do you opt-out? Leave? What?
As for you idiotic straw-man, proportionality has long been a part of libertarian justice theory… so no, murder /= appropriate response to trespass. Grow up.
Ta,
MvGuy
September 27th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
"an increasing percentage of non-elite and oppressed US citizens are finally realizing that they are on a path toward feudal Empire, economic oppression, and now 'police-state' tyranny at home"
Where do I find these people..?? You aren't talking about the tea party??? R-U.??
OOO Alan, are you joking..?? The tea party crowd is worried about the constitution. but when queried about the particulars, they resort to ad hominem attacks on Obama…. and say socialism is unconstitutional They never mention the Bill of Rights or the effect of the Patriot act on our freedoms… They [we] lose habeas corpus….. the way out of jail and the key to all rights pertaining to government [legal] persecution and they worry about getting hospital emergency room coverage for $300.00 a year and not free like it was! How long can an empire run two foreign wars with freshly printed paper money…?? I think they will wake up when the dollar does a Mexican peso like crash… gas $20.00 a gallon, Gold $10,000.00 an ounce… Black beans $9.79 a pound.. Hamberger, $15.00 a pound……Hundais $IOO.OOO.OO!!! We will see how many foreign wars "the people" will wanna fight THEN…!!!!
Ike Hall
September 27th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
About as well as it's working for us libertarians.
Julie
September 27th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Rob,
Are you certain it is not instead:
US political elites : 1
US people, Bin Laden: 0
Why do you believe that Bin Laden is not on the side of the American people?
Bob Bogus
September 27th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
OK…now you all have gone too far by insulting sacks of shit.
MvGuy
September 28th, 2010 at 7:25 am
It would be nice to learn the genesis of this bust by the FEDs… These groups had sympathies for the Palestinians..?? It would be instructive to know the whos and whens of these raids too.. So close to the Chicago influence sphere of Obama, and Rahm.. Just another coincidence..???
Do you think it may be possible that ANY of the targeted groups may have some alternate theories about certain EVENTS, maybe 911, in recent history….. in addition to their more serious [crime?] sympathies with Palestinian resistance…. We should take a moment to contemplate WHY it t is NOW a CRIME for AMERICANS to support those [designated as terrorists] whose sole CRIME is to oppose a crushing ILLEGAL occupation even to the point of giving advise about how to seek peace.. Doesn't this amount to criminalization of American's freedom by foreign agents and lobbyists?? It is O.K. for OUR tax money to be taken from US [given] to those who kill the Palestinians and steal their land [against our will] in defiance of international law and the American constitution [no taking without compensation] BUT if one gives advise or "support" to the victims, it is a crime "in America"??? Did any "DUAL CITIZENS" vote or otherwise conspire to enact this theft of American's freedom… of action… of thought…?? They will tell you it's 911 stupid, thats why!! But we still do not really know exactly how, why or who was ultimately responsible.. A few days ago [Sept 25] the Pentagon burned IO,OOO Books… "Specifically, the DIA wanted references to a meeting between Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, the book’s author, and the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, Philip Zelikow, removed. In that meeting, which took place in Afghanistan, Shaffer alleges the commission was told about “Able Danger” and the identification of Atta before the attacks. No mention of this was made in the final 9/11 report." Are there any dots to connect here..??
JohnReading
September 28th, 2010 at 7:38 am
There is nothing whatever wrong with voluntary socialism, just as there is nothing wrong with voluntary starvation. It's just that there are no volunteers. Socialism has to be forced on people since it involves ending property rights. Free markets are what people do when they are free of coersion. Owningthings and trading freely attract lots of volunteers. Chomsky is a linguist practising Lenin's maxim: "First, confuse the vocabulary". Have you ever seen Chomsky in a debate? He's a rude motor-mouth little bully.
RockyRococo
September 28th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
The actual Left, much as you may enjoy ridiculing them/us (for being as small and marginalized as, oh, consistent libertarians are in this society) is under no illusions about Obama, just recognizing it as "good cop" "friendly fascism" in full flower. Don't give the power-centrist "progressive movement" unwarranted credibility with the title Left, because they're not, and don't extrapolate their views onto those of us that are in fact Left, whether reds or anarch@ types such as myself.
RockyRococo
September 28th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Once again, the Left properly speaking carries no brief for Obama and the Dems, and it's sort of an insult to be found guilty by our (non-)association with such riffraff.
Andrewp111
September 28th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Ahh… A splinter group that split off from the Obama radicals now in power. They certainly knew who to target, didn't they?
Sort of like the Mafia liquidating "splinter groups" that have left the Family and gone off on their own.
Rupen Savoulian
September 30th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
While I agree with the general thrust of this article by Raimondo, I think his characterisation of the FRSO as uncritical cheerleaders for Obama is a bit off the mark. Raimondo quotes from the FRSO main political report for 2010. The comment he highlights does put a positive spin on Obama's 2008 election victory.
However, if you read that same document, a bit further down they do criticise Obama as another representative of big capitalist interests. To quote from the 2010 main political report (apologies for the length):
"Barack Obama is a step forward over George Bush. That said; Obama is a representative of the imperialist bourgeoisie. While he is not from the Black Liberation Movement his election is a source of great pride in African American communities and throughout the Black Belt South. African Americans are not alone in their joy either; other oppressed nationalities that suffer racism and discrimination – Chicanos and Mexicanos, Puerto Ricans, Native-Americans and Asian Americans are sharing the moment. Obama’s election represents a blow against racism and white chauvinism.
Obama’s election most clearly represents a shift in the strategy of the ruling class. The ruling class summed up that the unfettered rule of the free market and neo-conservative policies in general led to a disastrous financial crisis at home and the near destruction of the legitimacy of U.S. imperialism internationally. It is Obama’s task to rebuild the stature of U.S. imperialism. There are some changes. In terms of economic policy, President Obama moved from a free-market approach under Bush to a much greater role for the state. The U.S. ruling class adopted a new form of Keynesianism that emphasizes bailing out big banks and corporations, instead of bailing out the people by building up the infrastructure or putting money in the hands of working people.
The Obama administration continues to take up policies that serve the banks, insurance companies and corporations with not nearly the kind of immediate forms of relief for working people that FDR enacted to save capitalism in the 1930’s. The difference is that Roosevelt had the task of saving capitalism from itself and from the peoples movements. In the absence of a strong people’s movement like the 1930’s, capital is using working peoples money to bail itself out and giving very little help to working people."
While I have differences with the FRSO, I strongly condemn the FBI raids and urge all of us who support democratic rights to protest vociferously.
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