Blaming Obama
Is he “trapped” by the interventionist consensus?
The biggest obstacle to the success of the antiwar movement right now is the Obama cult – the fealty of his followers and well-wishers who want to give him the benefit of every doubt, and yet wonder why our foreign policy of perpetual war continues, virtually unchanged. After all, he seemed like he represented “change,” and he said he represented “change,” sincerity oozing from every pore, and yet …
And yet a year and some months into his presidency, the US has escalated its “war on terrorism,” extending its reach and pouring yet more resources into what is surely a bottomless pit. George W. Bush, after all, ordered only one “surge”: as commander-in-chief, Obama has so far ordered two. So why are his ostensibly “antiwar” supporters cutting him so much slack?
The answer varies with each individual, but a lot of the reasons have been helpfully summarized by Stephen Walt in a recent blog, in which he gives every excuse in the book and then some to explain why Obama seems so much like a Bush rerun in the foreign policy realm.
As long as Obama’s been in office, Obama’s progressive supporters “and even some sensible conservatives” have been “surprised and dismayed” that his military and diplomatic posture seems nearly identical to that of his predecessor in the White House. Was he merely a good actor, or are there hidden factors chaining him to the “missteps of the Bush White House? Has he cracked, or is he “trapped”?
Walt believes the latter: “I don’t really blame Obama,” he writes. The President “can’t simply wage a magic wand,” after all, reverse course and “get the rest of the government to fall into line.”
Let’s stop right there and ask: why, exactly, not? It’s true there are various factions within the administration with goals that might conflict with his own, but why can’t he do what George W. Bush did and simply ignore their advice?
After all, how many times in the run up to the invasion of Iraq were we confronted with reports of dissident CIA analysts, who challenged the administration’s evaluation of the intelligence; how many diplomats, generals and military experts disputed the wisdom of trying to export democracy to a region that had never known it? How many people marched against the war all over the world in a vast and vocal expression of impassioned protest? Yet President Bush – having more power than any Roman emperor ever dreamed of – ignored their good advice, and launched the invasion anyway.
Why can’t this President be as single-minded in his alleged virtue as his predecessor was in the service of evil?
Well, avers Walt, there are “powerful structural forces that inhibit any president’s freedom of action. Or to put it more simply: he’s trapped. Even if Obama wanted to chart a fundamentally different course (and I’m not at all sure that he does), he wouldn’t be able to pull it off.”
Leaving aside, for the moment, Walt’s telling parenthetical remark, let’s look at some of these “structural forces,” a vague and awkward phrase (“force” implies energy, yet “structural” connotes matter) of the sort one nearly always runs up against when an author is being dishonest with his readers, and himself. What – or who – are these “structural forces”?
To begin with, Walt lists “America’s current global position.” We’ve been such a boon to the world, providing “collective goods” – open trade routes, oil supplies, “regional stability,” etc. – that the minute the flow of free goodies stops, there will be consequences:
“The problem Obama faces, however, is that it would be neither easy nor cost-free to liquidate these commitments quickly. This is essentially a variation of the familiar ‘hegemon’s dilemma‘: having occupied a position of primacy and taken on a vast array of global responsibilities, trying to disengage from them is like dismounting from a tiger. Once you begin to disengage, you may invite some short-term instability that actually makes things look worse.”
He hedges by inserting the modifier “short term,” but what Walt is saying here, and throughout the rest of his piece, is that the effort to reduce America’s overseas footprint is a futile crusade, and perhaps even the wrong thing to do. While acknowledging that the US should have ceded the “responsibility” of its hegemonic position after winning the cold war, and ascribing our present course to laziness, “hubris,” and worse, he nonetheless sees no way out of the imperial conundrum short of unleashing that dreaded “instability” on a world otherwise spinning blissfully in perfect equilibrium.
The idea that the we must prevent all signs of “instability” – that the very manifestation of any disruption in the status quo is an affront and a challenge to our national security – is one of the conceits of empire that will have to be dashed on the rocks of realism before we can move forward. This is the same mindset that made George H. W. Bush decry the fall of East Germany and worry aloud over the “destabilization” the demise of the Soviet empire would let loose.
Since Walt brings up the issue of maintaining oil supplies, I would suggest that the tenuousness of these supplies might cause us to seriously begin developing alternative energies. Our hegemonic position has retarded our economic and even technological development, and the sudden – even abrupt – possibility that oil supplies might be interrupted would give the markets a major shove in the right direction: that is, in the direction of economic realism.
I would also dispute Walt’s tiger analogy. The Soviet Union – armed as it was with nuclear weapons, and also with a competing ideology that had universal appeal – was a tiger. The jihadists are more akin to a swarm of fleas. We can kill them individually, but they just keep multiplying as long as they enjoy the right conditions. We have, however, the power to deprive them of those favorable conditions,which are largely made possible by our own actions, i.e. by our interventionist foreign policy, which brings them recruits in droves.
If we can maintain an empire of bases all around the word, and support a vast bureaucratic-military army to administer and guard it all, then we can use those same resources to build an impregnable defense for the continental United States: we can keep out the fleas while keeping out of other countries’ business. The swarms of jihadists will then dissipate for lack of ideological sustenance.
Yet this is a long range goal, Walt would argue, and in the meantime there will be signs of instability that will be seized on by the GOP, and those fearsome neocons over at the Weekly Standard, as “cowardly” and evidence of “appeasement.” Yet Obama was never going to win these people over in any event, on any issue: they’d call him an appeasing coward, or, at least, someone with a “Kenyan anti-colonialist” outlook no matter what he did. Does the President of the United States really have to ask Bill Kristol’s permission before he decides to do the right thing for once?
Okay, but there’s yet another “structural force” standing in the way of Obama doing what he knows in his heart is right: “the foreign policy establishment.” Walt’s indictment of this supposedly formidable Establishment is incisive – perhaps a bit more so than he intended. Because he inadvertently homes in on the reason why we should blame Obama, and blame him personally:
“For the most part, debates within mainstream foreign policy circles run the gamut from A to B, from neoconservativism at one end and hawkish liberal interventionism at the other. As I said a few years ago, if neocons are essentially liberals on steroids, then most liberal internationalists are just kinder, gentler neocons. They agree on the virtues of American primacy, the need to prevent WMD from spreading (while keeping most of our own), the desirability of spreading democracy nearly everywhere, and the value of nearly all of the United States’ current alliances.”
Yet the President is very much a liberal interventionist, as his policies over these many months has made all too clear. He is also very much a creature of Washington, where the bipartisan consensus Walt decries is made and enforced. He’s a kinder, gentler neocon, who is widening the “war on terrorism” even as his administration renames it – and never was anything else. Surely his continuation of the Afghan occupation and the extension of the war into Pakistan should come as no surprise: he said he’d do as much during the election campaign and he meant it.
I talk about the “Obama cult” because it is indeed a cult in the classic sense, i.e. a group of fervent believers who project their own image of the Leader onto what is, after all, a pretty ordinary kind of guy – in this case, a pretty ordinary variety of semi-hawkish liberal interventionist. Whenever the Leader does something inconsistent with their idealization, they say “Oh, he doesn’t really mean it,” or “He doesn’t really believe that.” In advanced cases of cult-induced blindness, one constructs a more complex apologia, i.e. positing“structural” obstacles to the implementation of the Leader’s will. Obama is Gulliver tied down by the Lilliputians within his own party and administration.
I don’t buy it. One consequence of the triumph of interventionism over the traditional foreign policy of the Founders has been the bloating of presidential power until Americans have come to talk about “the imperial presidency” as if it were no big deal. Well, then, what’s to stop the occupant of the White House from using that imperial power to start downsizing the imperium? The present occupant clearly has no intention of doing so, but there’s nothing to prevent a future President from pursuing that goal.
As US troops rampage through Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan, collecting gory “trophies” and terrorizing the hapless citizens of those unfortunate countries, it is none other than Obama who personally bears full moral and political responsibility. As the commander-in-chief and chief executive of the mighty American empire, it is in his power to stop the post-9/11 wilding engaged in by the US military worldwide. He has done no such thing because he believes in what he’s doing. Along with the leadership of both parties, the major think-tanks, the national security bureaucracy, and all the other “structural” bogeymen who are supposed to have “trapped” him, President Obama is content to ensure the continuity of American foreign policy as it has been practiced since the days of Harry Truman – with America “leading” the world.
Change can and will come once the American people realize they’re being led over a cliff – because there are many “structural” obstacles to the continuation of that policy, first and foremost the looming bankruptcy of the American empire.
And when we are wrecked on the shores of national insolvency and social disintegration, will I blame Obama? I sure as heck will, and rightly so.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
I’m taking my show on the road this autumn, to campuses around the country, talking about some of the ideas expressed in last Wednesday’s column on “Anti-Interventionism: The Left-wing Tradition.” My talk is entitled “Why Has the Left Sold Out the Antiwar Movement?” – which is sure to provoke a controversy, or at least that’s the hope.
If you’re interested in booking
me at your campus, write wendy@antiwar.com, or call the Antiwar.com office, at: 510-217-8665.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013
- Boycott Israel? – May 9th, 2013





Nergol
September 14th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
The difference between Obama and Bush: Bush said he'd do a bunch of crazy shit, and then he did it. Obama said he'd do sane shit, and then he didn't.
Say what you will about *what* he did – Bush was proof that a President *can* do a lot if he decides to. Thus, that Obama does nothing – flopping around the Presidency helplessly, eternally wearing the expression of a hjgh school kid with what he thinks is a good excuse for getting an F on a midterm – shows lack of will, lack of seriousness, or lack of commitment. Or maybe he was just bullshitting us all along.
Johnny in Wi.
September 14th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
The left had a chance to firmly oppose this war when Bush was in power. How many antiwar demonstarations did they have? Most Democrats voted for the war measures and the Patriot Act. The left could have pushed Obama to the brink. He ran as an antiwar candidate. They just follow along. A lot of the left belives in the empire as long as we do what they want. Like interfering in South Africa in the 1980's and Yugoslavia and Iraq in Clinton's 1990's.
JLS
September 14th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
so basically Walt's position is that republican neocons were BAD, Democrat neocons are GOOD.
JohnDowser
September 15th, 2010 at 12:09 am
"'[powerful] structural forces,' a vague and awkward phrase"
True enough, although perhaps not because 'structural' would connote something physical, but more because structure implies pattern, a recurring instance which by now should have some better name.
Walt tries to name those forces of course: existing global arrangements, commitments (occupations), the political establishment and of course the military establishment as industry as well a large social and cultural institution ('militarism').
These fixtures could be called "empire", that organisational as well more psychological structure in place at home and abroad which cannot and will not move, unless toward its own preservation. Only when the fuel runs out internal forces can start to dismantle and reorganize.
And even after fuel runs out, it might take a while to notice – after all, there's a lot one can burn in place of proper fuel: money, books, people….
Lloyd
September 15th, 2010 at 3:17 am
A lot of lefties are not drunk on the Kool Aid, they've just made the calculation that Obama has to kill foreigners in order to advance his domestic 'progressive' agenda — that's how DC works. Sure LBJ killed a couple million Vietnamese, but he got the 'Great Society' program passed.
Montaigne
September 15th, 2010 at 3:37 am
It seems to me, that Obama is an oystrich, plain and simple. Waits and waits before he opens his mouth, and then always is careful and oh, so very nice. and gentle and careful and devoid of determinatio0n. Watch how his timetable in Afghanistan is left smouldring, all the while he talks about other matters – never firm or decisive. Always hiding in chambers and letting everybody else speak out – until he joins some chorus. Never a LEADER at all!
GradyWilson
September 15th, 2010 at 3:49 am
There were many, many anti-war rallies across the country before the Iraq invasion. They of course did not get media coverage like the Tea Party though. read all about it – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the…
Where were the libertarian anti-war rallies Johnny? Why wasn't Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul, and Justin leading rallies?
Good column by Justin. Obama was a trojan horse candidate pretending to represent change but actually representing the structural forces of the US empire – capitalists. Obama received the most corporate money than any other candidate in history. The Presidency and foreign policy, just like everthing else in America, is for sale and Goldman Sachs, Exxon/Mobil and all the other powerful corporations own it.
emsnews
September 15th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Obama is a newbie. The Bush clan are old ruling elites who have had their finger in the political and economic pie for generations. Yes, there really is a ruling elite in the world, one of the more obvious being the old royals of Europe, for example. Then, there are recent 'strike it rich' people who join up with the older ruling elites to protect their new wealth.
All of the ruling elites operate along the lines of tribal/family power which is why Chelsea married into the Tribe's Orthodox power unit, for example. Throughout modern times after capitalism replaced agrarian economics, royals and upper status property owners cheerfully married rich capitalists and bankers starting with the Medici marrying French kings, for example.
An easy way to get rich without working. The original elites all got their power via killing people and stealing stuff and the new capitalist rich love this idea, it appeals to a very ancient part of our brains to go forth and either have loot, rape and burn. The victims of all of this looting, raping and being burned have to unite to stop the rich elites who love doing this.
This means making the rich rather less rich and the way to do this is to flatten the economic curve so the very rich don't end up running an oligarchic empire. And so far, the US public loves running the planet…it lets us run perpetual government debts and trade deficits, we trade paper for concrete goods.
So, to stop our mad empire we have to stop free trade and tax the rich very heavily. Two things many on the right absolutely refuse to even consider.
John V. Walsh
September 15th, 2010 at 6:39 am
The Left is divided into two parts. The first are the "progressive" Democrats such as "Progressive" Democrats of America, for example Norman Solomon. These are virtually indistinguishable from the old line Communists and their offspring who signed up for the New Deal as the lesser evil and never looked back. "United for Peace and Justice" is an example of this kind of outfit along with its spokespeople like Phyliss Bennis etc. These characters will in the end always back a Democrat, always try to isolate people like Paul or Nader; and always turn the fight against war and empire into the motionless shoals of partisan politics.
The second part is the doctrinaire Left but to them the fight against war and Empire is not an end in itself but simply a step to their vision of a "socialist" future. They are without future or impact although they do a lot of the hard day to day work for the movement. Thus they are basically used by the first and dominant group.
So the left has become worthless as a vehicle for antiwar activity. In the days of the Vietnam War it was at least young, daring and militant, able to raise the consciousness of the people by its countercultural and antiwar acts. Today it is old, cautious and devoid of new thinking.
Justin is right. Unfortunately it has become the main obstacle to antiwar activity all the more so because of its idolization of Obama.
John V. Walsh
agent toads
September 15th, 2010 at 9:39 am
trojan horse with a degree in manipulative child psychology for all us american 12 year olds that never quit actually reach 21,is that reedom for ya or just a suspended state of "puberty"
central scrutinizer
September 15th, 2010 at 9:48 am
heck,i think stronger language would be more ,oo,how you say politically correct,aka appropreite,after all it is the implosion of the empire, the one that masquaraids as the greatest "invention since the birth of the MooN
liberranter
September 15th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Blaming Obama for anything that he has said or done (or not said or not done) is like blaming Charlie McCarthy for offensive words or deeds: it's misdirected anger. Like the babbling, drooling, inbred moron that preceded him as Oval Office desk warmer (and the dozens of others who came before), Obama (again, like all others before him) is an avatar, an artifice, a marionette whose strings are controlled by other, higher powers unseen. NOTHING he says or does in the capacity of his office originates with him; he is merely following orders and enjoying the temporary trappings of chimerical power, acquired in exchange for the mere pittance of his soul and self-respect.
All of that said, it is counterproductive to direct any ill will, resentment, or vitriol toward Obama himself. Look for the powers behind the scenes, the ones pulling his strings, and focus your rage there. To do otherwise amounts to the proverbial "tilting at windmills" or "pissing in the wind."
charley caruso
September 15th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Obama is indeed trapped — by them folks at AIPAC who own him, Hillary and the whole Congress.
A bad situation that must end if the US doesn't want to go down the same rathole as the 'country' AIPAC shills and spies for.
MvGuy
September 15th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
** Pres. "O".. Ya he 's trapped, in a trap that HE chose…. Thinking people will wonder WHY anyone with an I.Q more than 33, would want to do Afghanistan, the graveyard of empires. Especially, a land war……………..One started by ones predecessor….. from the enemy political party…..WHY???? O.K., he would not have been elected IF he had said, I will quit both wars the day I am inaugurated… No, but still political promises are made to be broken, evaded…and forgotten… Isn't Zbigniew Brzezinski advising Pres. "O", the very man that laid the trap for the USSR in that place, You know, the trap that killed their socialist empire?? Now is the point when one needs to ask, what is the definition of doing the same thing, but expecting different results….?????
MvGuy
September 15th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
So what if the President is really a foreign agent….[mole]? Eh, Good Luck …..Succahs…
davidgrayling
September 15th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Funny, isn't it! We all thought that Obama was going to save us, was going to change the world. Even I did and I'm not American.
Instead what he did was to surge! Yes, he surged here, he surged there, and more people died. He got his troops out of Iraq (except for 50,000) and left the Iraqis to continue to blow themselves up and squabble over their leadership. Now he's bashing up Afghanistan and, for a spot of spice, his drones are murdering children in Pakistan, the ones who have survived the floods.
Yes, Obama is a great surger! Wonder if he's ever thought of surging towards peace?
silas1898
September 15th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Would Hillary or McCain actually done anything different policywise? The window dressing might have been a little different. That's about all.
I never expected Obama to "save us" or thought he was the "messiah" and all that other BS. I deemed the alternative worse and hoped for the best.
As for an Anti-war movement, the fastest way to form one is re-instate the Draft -No Exemptions.
More protests? It's like banging you head against a wall; it feels good to stop.
MoT
September 15th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Wants to "cut"? So he says today. Just wait until tomorrow and watch this reed in the wind blow every which way.
PT
September 16th, 2010 at 12:20 am
What did you expect? People didn't elect Obama because he was a great leader – they elected him because they didn't want McCain/Palin. In the primaries they picked him because they didn't want Hillary. We got the best of a bad selection, a newcomer who hadn't even served a full Senate term and had to learn about the realities of governing on the job. And considering the insane opposition he's faced on the right and the self destructive fratricide in his own party, he hasn't done all that badly. Indeed, Obama deserves some credit for what he HASN'T done. He hasn't nuked Tehran, for example.
emsnews
September 16th, 2010 at 4:42 am
So where are the libertarian antiwar demonstrations as big as the ones the left hosted in the past?
I have either organized or attended many antiwar demonstrations over the last half a century and the lack of demonstrations now is due to disgust which is causing a temporary pause which will soon explode into real anger. Also, the left is very divided over all of this since many of us wish to go after Israel as the root cause of these wars and the Jewish contingent is basically suspending all demonstrations due to fears they will evolve into anti-Zionist demonstrations.
And it is taking a long, long time for anti-Zionists to organize antiwar demonstrations because 100% of the mainstream media happens to be very, very Zionist. So educating the left to understand AIPAC is very hard since our media very rarely mentions AIPAC and even when 90% of Congress attends the annual AIPAC meeting to kiss ass, this is not mentioned in the news at all.
So we are in a long learning process made very bad by accusations of 'anti-semitism' if one suggests AIPAC is pushing very hard for our Muslim wars. But then, the right is little help here due to true anti-semitism that is part of more than one fascist operation in the past.
emsnews
September 16th, 2010 at 4:45 am
None of the Bushes were 'marionettes'. They are ruling elites going way back. They helped design this system. Bush Sr. ran the CIA, for example, after Congress had hearings, the Church hearings. And now, after both Bushes were President, the CIA resumed its odious assassination policies which the Church committee condemned back in the 1970's. Obama is a puppet. He has no 'insider' political base and AIPAC runs his political party and his feeble attempts at being nice to Muslims enraged them and they cut off his power to lead his own party. The poor guy. Reduced to being basically a slave of Congress.
liberranter
September 16th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
While it is true that the Bushes, historically, have wielded enormous extra-governmental power, Shrubtard was definitely NOT trusted with, nor was he capable of exercising the top-tier power that his daddy and granddaddy enjoyed. With the passing of the Prescott Bush generation and the twilight of the GHWB generation, the Bush dynasty is a mere shell of its former self. Can anyone honestly say that Shrubtard and his equally moronic brother have ANY of the charisma and political shrewdness of their father, let alone their grandfather (and do any of Shrubtard's and Jeb's offspring have even a shred of their fathers' charisma or influence, pitiful such might be compared to generations past)? No, Shrubtard wore the Bush name, but by the time of his presidency, actual power was well concentrated in other hands far more ruthless and resourceful (hint: the agent of those "hands" that played a key role in manipulating Shrubtards strings had the initials of "Dick Cheney"). This is also not to say that previous generations were genuinely powerful and influential in an autonomous way, as JFK rudely discovered on November 22, 1963.
The Kennedys are in a similar situation to that of the Bushes. The generation of which JFK and RFK were part was the LAST Kennedy generation that could genuinely exercise power and influence (though, again, not autonomously, without answering to even higher, unseen powers). Succeeding Kennedy generations are living on their ancestors' laurels, are plagued with even more dysfunction and lack of ability than the most mediocre of the JFK/RFK generation, and are widely despised and ignored by pretty much everyone outside of the People's Socialist Democratic Republic of Massachusetts.
In short, far from WIELDING any power and influence, the latest generations of both Bushes and Kennedys are facades, sock puppets that serve, based on their names and family pedigrees, as nothing but avatars for the REAL rulers, all of whom are well concealed and infinitely more powerful, resourceful, and capable. It's a symbiotic relationship: the Bushes, Kennedys, and other American political "dynasties" get to continue to pretend that they're really powerful and important, and the REAL (and unseen) powers that actually rule the country get to hide behind familiar names and faces that insulate them from accountability and provide them with convenient "fall guys" when things go south.
Heathcliff_Maw
September 16th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Yes, but let's remember that Bush lied to justify the crazy shit he did and also did a lot of crazy shit in secret. That doesn't justify Obama's embrace of the political establishment, of course. I just don't want us to forget what a thoroughly contemptible POS Bush was just because Obama is the latest contemptible POS.
peacenik
September 16th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
What will happen after we are driven out of Iraq and Afghanistan, which is inevitable?. Unlike Viet Nam when we left with our tail between our legs we might do something really crazy. After all Israel's future will be at stake. The only hope might be in China which will control our purse strings. Since it is to their benefit to keep us afloat they might put economic preasure to get us out of the M.E. before we are totally bankrupt.
Robert Brager
September 16th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
"So where are the libertarian antiwar demonstrations as big as the ones the left hosted in the past?"
It's a good question. But the way you frame the question is a tad unfair.
The libertarian movement is quite small by comparison to the left. You say "as big as" as if a demonstration restricted to libertarians could possibly hope to generate that kind of turnout. You may then counter, and I wouldn't blame you, by pointing out the strong turnout for Tea Party events and cite them as evidence of the drawing power of ostensibly libertarian demonstrations. I would argue, and you might agree, that the tea parties have largely become creatures of the establishment right, co-opted by the Republican Party, and immersed in a purging of the libertarian element. Libertarians, at this point, just don't have the drawing power. You and Grady constantly ask, "where were Raimondo, Ron Paul, and Rockwell during all of this?", or variations on that theme. You might look no further than what used to be the past events tab on the Mises Institute's site and is now found on the events tab: scholarly conferences organized to discuss and disseminate the antiwar position. They certainly weren't silent.
Furthermore, one must consider the efficacy of demonstrating. Has it served to change policy in recent American history? Arguably no. So then we must ask ourselves if it's even a tactic we should consider. Libertarians have had this discussion. Too many on the youthful left salivate at the idea of stirring up mayhem (and that's not to argue that it's even close to a majority of people on the youthful left, just that it is an element entirely lacking among libertarians, ergo, "too many on the left"… in other words, one is too many, because all that tactic stirs up is resentment and trouble). I don't discount the presence of agents provacateur in that analysis.
Also, as opposed to the leftist antiwar groups I tried to crack in the earlier part of the last decade, they're not so doctrinaire as to prohibit the participation of those who aren't out to advance the overall leftist program. The ostensibly antiwar demonstrations I attended in the run-up to Iraq were organized and attended by people who seemed to think UHC was more important than preventing or ending the war.
To top it all off, media coverage of said demonstrations served to demonstrate conclusively the general uselessness of such events: either no coverage at all or spun to the point of irrelevancy. You know as well as I that the mainstream media outlets largely control the immediate public perception of demonstrations, left or right. The depiction of the left antiwar demonstrations was entirely at odds with what I saw on the ground. Sometimes, demonstrations are specific rather than general. I attended a demonstration on Seattle's Capitol Hill in 2003 that was refreshingly free of other "progressive" considerations like leveling society or UHC. The focus was entirely upon the detention of two teenaged Syrian nationals. They had no contact with legal counsel or their families. Maybe 1,000 people attended. The demonstrators had erected a tripod with a piñata at the center. Meanwhile, the police – in full riot gear – had formed a barricade between the demonstrators and the wealthy neighborhoods behind the shops on Broadway. The piñata finally popped, spewing confetti everywhere, and that was the cue for the cops to close in. They started beating people. The demonstrators did not resist nor did they provoke. The news coverage that night? Demonstrators started it, oh, and they were protesting the war. Wrong. Cops started it, demonstrators were protesting a detention that was an outgrowth of the expansion of the police apparatus in conjunction with the War on Terror. That's what you're up against.
So what are libertarians doing? Focusing on the dissemination of intellectual materials, gathering ideological converts, and, or so the hope is, engendering an idea that will result in a sea change. For what it's worth, I personally think that the policy of the Mises Institute to disseminate literature free of charge, harness all of the technological advances at their disposal, and organize scholastic conferences will bear more fruit than any unfocused street demonstration ever will and that's where the emphasis today is.
I hope that answers your question.
Eric
September 16th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
The greatest tragedy is that we, who are most able to be self-sufficient, destroy those who would be so, in accordance with the will of some long-dead but still embodied tyrant, who compensated his slavering impotence with the blood of innocents.
PS intensedebate could suck a bowling ball through a garden hose.
Robert Brager
September 16th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I'm with Walsh, whose work with Counterpunch hasn't gone unnoticed. I don't want to alienate potential alliances with the firm anti-war left and I concede that Justin sometimes comes dangerously close to doing this (although, I think, the questions he raises need to be raised).
Besides, I think even on the subject of economics we're in more agreement than we might think. The left speaks of "contradictions within capitalism", never bothering to explore further whether these are contradictions or actually two different systems being conflated to one and the same. Because the conditions that form the "capitalism" the left decries are the same that compels the libertarians to decry what they identify as "socialism on the Bismarckian model", "mercantilism", or "fascism" and distinct from the free market. The left decries gaps between rich and poor, of a "rich getting richer" and a "poor getting poorer", rarely bothering to investigate the deliberate inflationary monetary policy that engenders that phenomena. Point it out, though, to the genuinely intellectually curious, and we discover we have common ground. It's happening more and more and I'm pleased to see it. We've got to work together to end these wars, the imperial impulse, the corporate socialism, the regulation of vice (Drug War, etc.), and the expansion of the police apparatus. Most of us are in agreement here.
Blaming Obama
September 18th, 2010 at 7:14 am
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Michael Price
September 19th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
"Since Walt brings up the issue of maintaining oil supplies, I would suggest that the tenuousness of these supplies might cause us to seriously begin developing alternative energies. Our hegemonic position has retarded our economic and even technological development, and the sudden – even abrupt – possibility that oil supplies might be interrupted would give the markets a major shove in the right direction: that is, in the direction of economic realism."
The largest threat to oil supplies is interventionist US policy. Far from creating a "sudden – even – abrupt – possibility" that they might be interfered with abandoning this policy will reassure oil traders and refiners the Straits of Hormuz won't be closed any time soon. Similarly getting out of Iraq will probably reduce attacks on it's oil infrastructre. The idea that US policy (especially foreign policy) is aimed at cheap oil has been a bizarre leftist delusion for a while now. Historically the US government has had closest ties to those who benefit from high oil prices. Whatever else you say about the Greedy Weasal Bastard, he's been good to the alternative energy crowd, although not deliberately.
Michael Price
September 19th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
"We" thought this? Who's we? Justin Raimondo didn't believe this and neither did I. "Obama invokes change. Yet never has the dead hand of the past had a "reform" candidate so firmly by the windpipe." – Alexander Cockburn. Ron Paul didn't believe he would be a saviour either, and he was more anti-war than most of the so called "peace" movement.