Anti-Interventionism: The Left-Wing Tradition
Where are the antiwar lefties of yesteryear?
In conversation with a progressive friend of mine the other day, I had occasion to hear a valid criticism of my writing: why, he asked me, do you limit yourself to attacking the left on the war question, why not praise them when they’re doing something right? This is a paraphrase, and not a word for word quotation, but you get the idea: an entirely negative critique, given the left’s storied history of anti-interventionism, is not entirely fair.
However, it is precisely because of the long, heroic tradition of left-wing anti-imperialism that I tend to get a bit bitchy when it comes to the contemporary record, which hardly measures up. When I hear that United For Peace and Justice, the major antiwar coalition controlled by Communist party types, has basically dissolved itself – at a time when the US is fighting two and a half wars, with a third in the making – I tend to suspect they’re just not that into it, as the saying goes. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that their hero, President Obama, is the one fighting the wars now, and without George W. Bush to demonize anymore, the fight has gone out of them.
Be that as it may, the American radical movement has been in the front lines of the antiwar movement in this country ever since World War I, when radical and socialist newspapers were closed down by the tyrant Wilson, and Eugene Debs was jailed for speaking out against the slaughter. Back then, the Socialist party took the lead, staging antiwar demonstrations and denouncing the conflict as a capitalist scheme to divide up the world amongst the imperial powers. The war, they explained, was just an inter-imperialist feud over how to divide up the colonial spoils, and a competition for foreign markets that had turned violent. In this they were absolutely correct, but it was only after the war that the nation began to see their point.
Woodrow Wilson, whose prissy intellectualism and rhetorical devotion to “self-determination” and “democracy” won over the liberals over at The New Republic, was the first of the “humanitarian” interventionists, albeit unfortunately not the last. He dressed up his war aims in such highfalutin’ phrases that one would have thought he and his armies were angels of mercy, or perhaps college professors intent on teaching the world how to live in peace: lots of liberals fell for it, and so did the American people – but not for long.
When the “peace” at Versailles was wheeled out, finally, all the noble war aims of the Wilsonians fell by the wayside: Germany was punished severely, saddled with huge war reparations, while the victors divided up her colonies, and detached entire German-speaking provinces, awarding them to Poland, in the east, France in the west, and the newly-created Central European states carved out of the old Austro-Hungarian empire.
So much for the Wilsonian principles of “national self-determination” and “democracy”!
A wave of disillusionment swept over the liberals and other “idealists” who had once supported Wilson’s war: was this why millions had died in the trenches, and destroyed the lights of civilization in Europe – so that France might claim Alsace-Lorraine?
The US government had set up a propaganda organization, devoted to convincing the American people that the war was just and necessary, whose work was effective as long as the shooting didn’t stop: but once the guns were silenced, the cries of “Fraud!” were heard loud and clear. And shouting the loudest were progressives like the distinguished historian Charles A. Beard, famous for his economic analysis of the Constitution as a device to further entrench the power of the ruling class, who described the official story on the genesis of the war with sardonic wit:
“Three pure and innocent boys – Russia, France and England – without military guile in their hearts, were suddenly assailed while on the way to Sunday school by two deep-dyed villains – Germany and Austria – who had long been plotting cruel deeds in the dark.”
Beard, whose influence and prestige made him the dean of American historians, was a principled anti-interventionist, whose progressive politics were totally in tune with his foreign policy views. He saw historical events through the prism of economic self-interest, and located the “principles” that supposedly motivated men and nations precisely where they often originated: in their pocketbooks. This kind of unmasking, as a method, naturally led him to question the platitudes that issued forth from the mouths of our pious rulers when they decided to go to war. He described the operating principle of American expansionism as the “open door” policy, essentially a mercantilist effort to undo the alleged effects of the “lost frontier” by projecting American power – particularly naval power – to the four corners of the globe: foreign markets would take the place of the frontier and ensure the ever onward and upward development of American capitalism.
Although he had supported the Great War, initially, it was the domestic consequences of that bloody paroxysm that turned him around. A professor of history at Columbia University, he was traumatized by the persecution of two antiwar professors who were forced out by the administration on account of their views: “I learned what war could do,” he wrote, “I saw Columbia use the War to suppress men. . . . I saw the freedom of the press trampled by gangs of spies, public and private.”
In 1948, Beard looked back with astonishment on how Wilson had smuggled into the public discourse and legitimized as holy writ the idea “that the President of the United States has the constitutional and moral right to proclaim noble sentiments of politics, economics, and peace for the whole world and commit the United States to these sentiments by making speeches and signing pieces of paper on his own motion.” Today, of course, this is not only the accepted view in Washington – it is the only view. Back then, however, Americans were still innocent enough to be astounded and even shocked by it.
The disillusion with Wilson’s war, which had driven many formerly pro-Wilson progressives into the antiwar camp, had largely worn off by the 1930s, however – especially after Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, and threatened the very existence of the “workers fatherland.” Suddenly, formerly pro-peace organizations began to either go silent, or else come out for intervention on behalf of our Soviet “brothers.” Communist Party members, who had been the organizational backbone of these ostensible “peace” groups, turned on a dime and began agitating for US entry into the war. Indeed, the Communists became the most militant wing of the War Party, playing the catalyzing role that the neoconservatives of today played in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. They viciously attacked antiwar liberals, such as Beard, who stuck to their guns, so to speak, and refused to cave in either to the war hysteria or orders from Moscow.
The failure of the New Deal to bring the country out of the depression, and the need to divert attention away from this uncomfortable fact, was, Beard believed, a major motivation behind FDR’s clandestine efforts to get us into the European war. Clandestine because the American people resisted the strenuous efforts of well-funded and very active interventionist organizations, and opposed getting in right up until Pearl Harbor.
Beard argued America’s history, geography, and national interests dictated a policy of non-intervention in the war: the Allied powers of Britain, France, and Russia had a record of imperialism that far surpassed the relatively minor colonial adventurism of either Germany or Japan. Why should we bail out the empires of Europe: would American boys die to preserve the British Raj? Or French domination of Morocco?
Beard was not only an acerbic critic of the newly militant internationalism of the Popular Front left, he posed a fully elaborated alternative, expounded in his many books and articles, which he called Continental Americanism. “The two words,” he wrote, “imply a concentration of interest on the continental domain and on building here a civilization in many respects peculiar to American life and the potentials of the American heritage. In concrete terms the words mean non-intervention in the controversies and wars of Europe and Asia and resistance to the intrusion of European or Asiatic powers, systems, and imperial ambitions into the western hemisphere.”
Beard’s antiwar stance cost him dearly, in terms of prestige and academic standing, but he never gave in: indeed, he spent the greater part of his postwar career proving that Roosevelt did everything he could to provoke the Japanese into striking Pearl Harbor, presaging later research confirming the President’s foreknowledge of the attack.
Although he fell out of favor with liberal historians, who could not countenance his opposition to World War II and Saint FDR, Beard was rediscovered in the 1960s by New Left historians such as William Appleman Williams, Gabriel Kolko, and James Weinstein. Beard’s was a distinctly American radicalism, not a foreign import like the phony “peace activists” of the “Red Decade,” and it was only natural that these New Left types would resurrect him: the New Left was, at least in the beginning, born in search of an indigenous tradition to which it could anchor its inchoate and often libertarian yearnings. Failing to find it, or lacking the patience to dig a bit deeper than the Encyclopedia Brittanica, such groups as SDS turned to the Little Red Book, the machismo of Che Guevara, and the wit and wisdom of Enver Hoxha.
Founding SDS leader Carl Oglesby, in his book Containment and Change, invoked the old “isolationist” tradition personified by Beard, and evoked the Old Right of the America First Committee and its conservative allies, as a usable tradition, but he was drowned out by the shrill voices of the nihilist Weathermen and other ultra-leftists who were more interested in self-dramatization and acting out their “rage” against bourgeois America than in the actual fate of their Vietnamese “comrades” – or in learning anything about how US imperialism really functions, and how it might be stymied.
There is indeed a very long and distinguished left-wing anti-imperialist tradition, one that has been largely forgotten by modern liberals, and disdained by what passes for “radicals,” i.e. either Marxists or anarchists. The former I have discussed in recent sallies against the sectarians of “Socialist Action,” who aren’t interested in the idea of discovering an indigenous radicalism because this might successfully compete against the foreign import they’re peddling – Trotskyism in the case of the Socialist Actioneers. The latter show some spirit, but seem to disdain knowledge – especially historical knowledge – as a matter of high-principle, and thus are unlikely to engage in a project devoted to excavating Beard, or paying attention to anything labeled “Right,” whether it be Old or New.
The internationalist impulse embedded in Marxist and most Western leftist ideologies makes their followers peculiarly vulnerable to the snares and delusions of interventionism – the idea of conducting a vast social engineering project halfway across the globe appeals to the modern “progressive” imagination, much as they find appealing the same sort of project conducted on the home front. A “war on poverty,” a “war on homelessness,” a “war on illiteracy,” or cancer, or whatever – why not a “war on terrorism,” after all?
Only when the left succeeds in forging – or rediscovering – a distinctively American radicalism will it prove immune to the War Party’s wiles. That’s a long term project, but in the meantime, can we all just get along for the sake of a good cause?
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
I’m taking my show on the road this autumn, to campuses around thecountry, talking about some of the ideas expressed above, giving a talk entitled “Why Has the Left Sold Out the Antiwar Movement?” which is sure to provoke a controversy, or at least that’s the hope.
If you’re interested in booking me at your campus, write wendy@antiwar.com, or call the Antiwar.com office, at: 510-217-8665.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013
- Boycott Israel? – May 9th, 2013





Catherine
September 7th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
The United States and Israel DO have enemies, deadly ones. To mount a credible antiwar argument–and by extension a forceful antiwar movement–it would be necessary to hold an honest discussion about the real causes of Muslim anger toward the United States. To have such an honest discussion, we would have to give an account of the real history of Zionism and the true nature of Israel. And no one has the courage to do that, whether they be on the left, the right, or even really editors and writers at antiwar.com. (Yes, there is talk of blowback sometimes, but there is still an element of dishonesty when talking about Muslim motivations.)
With that discussion ruled out, the explanatory narrative (for 9/11, Muslim anger, etc.) that replaces and obscures the truth is that of "Muslim extremists" and "Islamofascism." Even Justin Raimondo is sometimes tempted into this false narrative. As long as that diagnosis of the conflict prevails, you will hardpressed to bring any significant number of wholehearted recruits into the antiwar movement. You see, so long as I believe that there are rabid, irrational, unrelenting Muslims out there trying to storm the barricades to kill me and my loved ones because of who I am, disarming Iraq and Iran and occupying the large part of the Middle East don't exactly sound like terrible ideas. Not doing so comes close to being downright naive–given the premise provided by the false narrative.
The wars will continue until you start telling the truth about the history of the Middle East, particularly in relation to Israel–or until the United States goes bankrupt or implodes.
Catherine
September 7th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
I would add a qualifier to my last paragraph above. There is another way that the wars may end: When Israel either (A) grants full civil rights to its captive Muslims and Christians or (B) completes to a more significant degree its ethnic cleansing project in Palestine. At some point, there won't be many Palestinians left to resist Israel. The injustice will no longer be ONGOING once the Arabs are drained off the land to a greater extent. As was the case with the European colonization of North America vis a vis the native Americans, at some point it will be more about a conflict that occurred in the past than about one that is ongoing in the present.
tommauel
September 8th, 2010 at 12:09 am
United For Peace and Justice has always represented religious liberals and main stream democrats. The A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition represents the true leftist organizations and they are still active and still organizing for more protests against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. United for Peace and Justice generally represented people and organizations that were part of main stream capitalist America like the democratic party. They are comprised of labor and religious organizations that are anti Republican but remain loyal to the democratic party and capitalism in general. With the total betrayal of Obama, Clinton, and the majority of democrats with the escalation in Afghanistan the leadership of these groups and their followers have been disgraced.
A leaner but stronger anti-war movement will result from the surviving A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition. During the Central America wars of the 1980's United For Peace and Justice leaders continually sabotaged effective grass roots organizing and protest taking their marching orders from right wing labor and capitalist democrats. Good riddance to them and any libertarian capitalists who feel the need to replace them.
Montaigne
September 8th, 2010 at 12:57 am
I would say, the most essential change will become for society to address the MATURE human being. Instead of degrading people to dumb followers of signals and social paroles. The only succesful change in the USA, that of the Martin Luther King civil movement, did exactly that, and won lastingly. Though not a whole victory, since some idiotic reverse platitudes was added to that – the majority still clinging to the importance of mass movement infantile control as essentials.
But it is not essential, when a society is based on a deliberate and consensual accept of foundations. An honest and open legitimacy, instead of smart manipulations and defamations and evil pointing. However there is an ingrown tendency from especially American politicians, to do just that: manipulate. A simple way to reduce that would be for much longer term elections, preferably with no reelections possible (so you would e.g. vote half of representatives once every 10th year, or even 15th). That would probably give a longer term view on politics. Also drastically reduce the costly and corruption inducing lobbyism, and hopefully the power of corporations too, with the tendency to live on RIGHTS (patents, government contracts, etc.) supported by government instead of competition and real development..
Lloyd
September 8th, 2010 at 3:21 am
A.N.S.W.E.R. will never be anything other than it is now: A small-time ideological freakshow.
bogi666
September 8th, 2010 at 3:29 am
Justin's imagined fears and irrationality about communism and socialism without defining them is characteristic of his generation whom have been indoctrinated by the USG program of obedience training such as the shoe removal drill at airports. I would bet than he was subject to the USG terrorism of school children nuclear attack drill. AS for the old USSR Justin believes that McCarthy, an alcoholic and paid fear monger for the nationalist Chinese has been vindicated.Justin and his John Birch Society nonsense are based on imagined fears. He is right about the so called left being non effective with their anti war stand as it doesn't exist. I went to the USSR and I attribute its collapse to 2 Brits, a Dutchman and myself for smuggling in cosmic chanting and Prince[Little Red Corvette] other than white t shirts, Michael Jackson's thriller, Nike shoes all of which terrified the Soviet government. The Dutchman was caught bringing in some Bibles, which were confiscated because he didn't declare them customs.I didn't see Justin, Thatcher, Ronald Reagan or Justin idol Robert Welch there.
sherban
September 8th, 2010 at 4:16 am
Justin said:"Indeed, the Communists became the most militant wing of the War Party, playing the catalyzing role that the neoconservatives of today played in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.
The comparison, i think,is not valuable.The neocons ,this is the suspicions ,mimic the patriotism and pushed US in wars for the interests of an other country,they pretense that are conservators but news and the old conservators pretense that they are not news and no conservators.The concern for the fate of USSR when Nazis attacked her was not a trick, was not hidden under false motives.Like now how Iran is presented as a "threat"to US,to entire world,to Western civilization,to Christians and so on.
GradyWilson
September 8th, 2010 at 4:17 am
With Justin being a defender of McCarthysim he should realize that leftist thought has been ostracized and even criminalized at times in America which is very large reason why 'the left' is almost non existent today. And as a supporter of property rights he should realize that only very wealthy capitalists own media outlets basically allowing no voice for alternative views. I think he expects way too much from a very small fragamented group of individuals without a real voice. Remember there are no Koch Bros sugar daddies for the anti-war left.
Justin errs in pretending that an alleged group of 'Communist party types' would consider Barack Obama 'their hero'. That's ridiculus. The far left has exposed the two party system as being owned and operated by wealthy capitalists well before the World Wars as Justin himself acknowledges with Wilson's attack on socialists like Debs. The far left despises Obama just as much as they do Bush – probably more, from what I've read online, since Obama is a 'leftist' fraud and Bush was honest about his fascism…..
GradyWilson
September 8th, 2010 at 4:30 am
"…..the nihilist Weathermen and other ultra-leftists who were more interested in self-dramatization and acting out their “rage” against bourgeois America than in the actual fate of their South Vietnamese “comrades" – Justin__Really? How do you know this is true? Why do you make such an unsubstantiated accusation? __"…..the idea of conducting a vast social engineering project halfway across the globe appeals to the modern “progressive” imagination…"__Really? So its the 'progressive imagination' which is responsible for the current wars? Not the capitalist thirst for profits and empire? You sure your not just blowing smoke and diverting attention from the real evil behind the US empire?__And again – where the hell are the anti-war Libertarians? Why isn't Justin, Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, and some of the boys at Cato and all the other libertarian free market think tanks leading an anti-war movement themselves? They certainly are well funded and have enough access to mainstream media to have an anti-war rally or a march themselves. No they'd rather sit back and blame the basically non existent "left" for everything.
GradyWilson
September 8th, 2010 at 4:38 am
"….how many people have heard of United for Peace and Justice? Then ask them who has heard of Restoring Americas Honour? Or ask them who has heard of the Tea Party, and who has heard of any of the socialist parties? …"
Right on mickperry. The corporate media has been very accomadating to any small group of Tea Partiers while any left group gets nothing. 15 thousand people came to Detroit this summer for the week long Social Forum and it received NO national media attention.
John V. Walsh
September 8th, 2010 at 4:39 am
Justin's closing plea says it all: "but in the meantime, can we all just get along for the sake of a good cause?"
Everytime I raise the Left/Right coalition against war with my leftist friends they change the subject to areas of DISAGREEMENT. That simply does not make sense. Why turn your back on an ally in one cause because you have a disagreement on another cause? That is infantile thinking and not mature politics.
GradyWilson
September 8th, 2010 at 5:13 am
Allies don't take cheap shots and it is not mature or honest to engage in historical revisionism. And just saying; ' can we all get along' after b–ch slapping your 'ally' doesn't mean Justin is immune to criticism for his historial inaccuracies and cheap shots.
Justin does not approach the left honestly or as an ally. He hates the left. Anyone who has read him for any length of time knows this.
Ira7Epstein
September 8th, 2010 at 5:36 am
To develop any critique of American foriegn policy and its wars requires an element of independent and critical thinking/ The government schools have done there job very well by squeezing out any shred of critical or independent thought in the brainwashed victims of government school indoctrination/
Sam Lowry
September 8th, 2010 at 6:04 am
"We are living today in a highly organized state of socialism. The state is all; the individual is of importance only as he contributes to the welfare of the state. His property is his only as the state does not need it. He must hold his life and possessions at the call of the state." — Bernard Baruch, stock speculator, and chairman of War Industries Board under Woodrow Wilson, August 7, 1918
ScottC
September 8th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Justin makes a good point I think. Look at how the Sierra Club was so silent during Clinton, even though mountain top removal was running full a-pace. There was little difference in environmental policy between Clinton and W. Bush–though the rhetoric was more strident.
I agree that the Left has gotten soft on the anti-war message. I agree that we need to get together. I appreciated that Ron Paul got the 3rd parties together, that they admitted that they were in accord on 85% of the issues.
What I wish the libertarians would admit is that there are 3 markets–your article on Kochtopus was pulled, after requests by lefties. I wondered if you heard my 3 market theory. The monopoly/utility market is nothing like the free market. In fact the no bid contracts that war contractors enjoy are a prime example of this, and their profiteering is the most pernicious socialism–or as you said, the Communists call it capitalism–maybe–it's NOT A FREE MARKET.
NewandExciting
September 8th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Well, how much critical thinking does it take to be be a fry cook or be a bartender? The public schools are geared to give you just enough education to be useful.
Matt Barganier
September 8th, 2010 at 6:29 am
It's possible that this installment of Justin's column didn't "give an account of the real history of Zionism and the true nature of Israel" because it isn't about those things.
FBastiat
September 8th, 2010 at 6:40 am
What to say to Leftists about foreign AND domestic militarism
GradyWilson
September 8th, 2010 at 6:59 am
'Leftists' obviously didn't start the war on terror.
It is deceitful, but consistent, of libertarians to divert attention from capitalist warmongers who start America's wars of imperial conquest by blaming Marxism. Only a complete fool or a deceitful propagandist would blame America's 'war on terror' on Marxist ideology.
Johnny in Wi.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:18 am
100 Billion people killed by leftist governmants since 1917. Most of the far left in the end supported these actions. They loved and many still love Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Castro among others. The antiwar movement was just used as a way to further the worldwide Revolution. The Neocons are followers of the old leftist hero and mass murderer Leon Trotsky. They want a worldewide revolution as well. Even Hitler called his party the National Socailists. Mussloni started as a socialist.They all had one thing in common. They loved commanding power and the abilty to kill their enemies at will. the trouble with most leftsts is that they can't convince many people that they are right about issues, using peaceful means. In the end they often resort to violence.
paulBass
September 8th, 2010 at 7:22 am
quote osama bin laden –
It should not be hidden from you that the people of Islam had suffered from aggression, iniquity and injustice imposed on them by the Zionist-Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that the Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq. The horrifying pictures of the massacre of Qana, in Lebanon are still fresh in our memory. Massacres in Tajakestan, Burma, Cashmere, Assam, Philippine, Fatani, Ogadin, Somalia, Erithria, Chechnia and in Bosnia-Herzegovina took place, massacres that send shivers in the body and shake the conscience. All of this and the world watch and hear, and not only didn't respond to these atrocities, but also with a clear conspiracy between the USA and its' allies and under the cover of the iniquitous United Nations, the dispossessed people were even prevented from obtaining arms to defend themselves."
while israel is a very big chunk of the grievances it is not by a long shot their only one
bogi666
September 8th, 2010 at 7:39 am
With "no child left behind"the purpose of schools is to teach mindlessness which is orchestrated by government, businesses, pretend christian churches to give mindlessness legitimacy because it is institutionalized. They don't want no stinkin' critical thinking just rote memorization of facts that are propaganda.
Tony Clifton
September 8th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Wait, didn't you just describe today's American conservative movement? Didn't you just describe the Tea Party? Just replace "capitalist system" with "government" and it's the same thing. Either way, you're talking about anarchy. Your mention of Christopher Hitchens only reinforces this point – he once was a liberal (commie), but now he's a conservative (neo-con). Either way, he's a bloodthirsty anarchist. The main difference between the anarchists of old and the anarchists of today is that the anarchist left of yesteryear was actually a grassroots movement. The anarchist right of today are corporately funded by Dick Armey, Fox News, et al. Yesterday's anarchists never really had any power. Today, they appear on our supposedly liberal media every damn day.
Sam Lowry
September 8th, 2010 at 7:48 am
"'Leftists' obviously didn't start the war on terror."
Sorry, but you're wrong. The Iraqi Liberation Act was signed into law by Clinton. That's when the overthrow of the Iraqi government became official government policy. Clinton killed as many Iraqis as Bush, only his weapons of choice were disease and starvation by way of trade sanctions. Also, the law that forced the telecommunications companies to build their equipment in a way that allowed the government to tap anybody's phone line anywhere anytime was also signed into law by Clinton.
Left and right are a lie–part of the massive confidence job that has been pulled on the plebeians. Marx was right in that there most definitely is a predatory class, and that that class is what you would now think of as the 'capitalists,' i.e. the bankers and robber barons and the Monopoly Guy with the big white mustache. But Marx was completely wrong about the mechanism of exploitation. He was so profoundly and systematically wrong that it could have only been intentional. The 'capitalists' don't exploit by ownership of the means of production, they exploit by government privilege–government privilege the progressives are all to eager to hand them in the name of some noble-sounding but fundamentally elitist and self-righteous cause.
None of this is to defend the warmongers on the right. The anti-communists (like Bill Buckley) were just as much in the service of the plutocracy as the communists.
Catherine
September 8th, 2010 at 7:58 am
But Israel is the PRIMARY grievance, and it is in fact the root cause of several of the spin-off wars listed in your post (Qana, Lebanon, Iraq, and Iraq sanctions). It probably is a "but for" grievance, meaning that, without it, Muslim attitudes toward the United States might not reach a level of anger where individual were willing to give their lives fighting it.
Going back to at least 1995, Bin Laden referred to the Palestinian struggle as "the mother of all Islamic causes." (See his Letter to King Fahd.) Alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad has said he was motivated by the injustice of Zionism in Palestine. And here's an interesting statement from Bin Laden, now in 2004, about motivations behind 9/11:
"Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom. If so, then let him explain to us why we don't strike for example – Sweden? And we know that freedom-haters don't possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 – may Allah have mercy on them.
"No, we fight because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall we lay waste to yours.
"No-one except a dumb thief plays with the security of others and then makes himself believe he will be secure. Whereas thinking people, when disaster strikes, make it their priority to look for its causes, in order to prevent it happening again.
"But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events of September 11th, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real causes. And thus, the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred.
"So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken, for you to consider.
"I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.
"The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorized and displaced.
"I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.
"The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.
"In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.
"And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.
"And that day, it was confirmed to me that oppression and the intentional killing of innocent women and children is a deliberate American policy. Destruction is freedom and democracy, while resistance is terrorism and intolerance."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7…
GradyWilson
September 8th, 2010 at 8:12 am
um …. sorry to break it to you but Clinton was no leftist. And you sound rather silly claiming yes indeed the war on terror was started by a leftist then going on to claim there is no left or right.
Marx was right about one thing for sure – that militant imperialism was an enevitable outcome of capitalism. The free market competition phase could only last for a while because as in all competition there are winners. And the winners want more, more markets, more resources, more booty, more war.
Johnny in Wi.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:20 am
I don't know why my comment was pulled it was on topic. Tell me Justin why do the rabid neocons over at Human Events have a far far more free discussion section than you Libertarians over here at Antiwar.com. It's your site so you can do what you want. I enjoy and agree with most of your articles. but you sure have a stilted comment section.
Catherine
September 8th, 2010 at 8:26 am
A reply I submitted to Matt Barganier above has not been posted either.
tommauel
September 8th, 2010 at 8:33 am
A.N.S.W.E.R. is not small-time. They have organized protests across the country and in Washington with hundreds of thousands attending and millions nation wide. Freaks for peace?
Socialist freaks for peace? Whatever the label the A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition far surpasses any organized protest sponsored by Libertarians who have never held one organized protest of size against any war.
Catherine
September 8th, 2010 at 9:43 am
A bit defensive about Israel are we, Matt? Interesting.
Justin's column opens with a lament that the left "is just not that into" opposing American wars in the Middle East. He closes by lamenting the left's susceptibility to "the War Party's wiles." My post attempts to explain this by asserting that the left, in addition to the right, the center, antiwar.com, etc., are hamstrung in mounting a credible and galvanizing antiwar argument by a core unwillingness to discuss Israel. This reluctance has several motivations: a sense at some level that U.S. intervention is "good for the [CENSORED]"; a love of Israel and a fear of its becoming a target of criticism in the United States; a concern that criticism of Israel is a slippery slope toward anti-Semitism; a lack of courage to face the barrage of censure and the social cost that often punishes those who raise negative aspects about Israel; and ignorance.
Perhaps there is something analogous here to certain lobbies' attitudes toward World War II intervention (and the criticism faced by the America First movement), which Justin also mentions in his column.
And so potential antiwar leaders and public intellectuals are unwilling to make too much of Israel's link to the U.S. federal government's foreign wars and to America's problems with the Middle East. Unless your post is facetious, it appears to serve as an illustration.
For a supportive analysis of this phenomenon of gagging discourse on Israel in the antiwar movement, see Dave Kersting's writing on attitudes in the "peace and justice" movement toward antiwar organizing and discourse in the run-up to the Iraq war. Dave Kersting could be a great contributor as an antiwar.com columnist, by the way. You should get in touch with him.
Matt Barganier
September 8th, 2010 at 10:00 am
"Justin's column opens with a lament that the left 'is just not that into' opposing American wars in the Middle East."
The column isn't specifically about the Middle East at all. In fact, it traces the history of left-wing opinion on interventionism, pro- and anti-, going back to World War I. But keep fantasizing about my covert operations for the Mossad.
Catherine
September 8th, 2010 at 10:35 am
And my argument is that left-wing opinion and discourse (which helps form opinion) on interventionism is heavily influenced by the above-enumerated considerations, which involve Israel and the perceived interests of a related group, the name of which is apparently too sensitive to post in your discussion forum.
Justin's column is not a mere academic recounting of the arc of left-wing opinion on interventionism. It expresses a complaint, a lament, and an implied desire for change. A step toward change is to understand the motivations behind those positions of the left that Justin, and presumably others, find to be unfortunate and wish to change. The causes of those positions are highly relevant to Justin's column and my post attempted to highlight some of them.
I am not impressed by your accusation that I have "fantasies" that you are in the pay of the Mossad. That kind of straw man argumentation is a pretty typical of Zionist propaganda. I never said you were a Mossad agent, but the more I read of you in this discussion, the more of a Zionist partisan you seem.
Justin Raimondo
September 8th, 2010 at 11:44 am
I have spoken at ANSWER events, although my relationship with that group has been probematic in the past. In spite of their superficial ultra-left veneer, in pactical terms ANSWER is a lot more open to a broad coalition than some of the other left groups, in spite of their essentially sectarian insistence on including all sorts of boilerplate leftist "demands" in their calls for demos. I think they should be included in any broad coalition, but with the understanding that they are just one element of a "rainbow" left-right coalition.
M. Junaid Levesque-Alam
September 8th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
There is no question that much of the left becomes quiescent when a Democrat is in power. Not exactly on topic here, but take a gander at Jeffrey St. Clair's (co-editor of the excellent CounterPunch site) book "Been Brown So Long It Looked Green to Me". It's a hefty indictment of how easily the mainstream environmentalists went along with logging, polluting, and poisoning our environment so long as Clinton was the one doing it.
M. Junaid Levesque-Alam
September 8th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
On another note, while I agree with most of Justin's observations, I think it is far from the case that the presence or absence of leftists in the anti-war movement determines the fortunes or size of that movement. The surreal and strange reality of American war-making is that a tiny minority of people have their own skin on the line even though we can hear about every detail of the war all the time. Unlike in the 60s, there are no social movements to feed into an anti-war movement and there is no conscription.
Sure, people have "opinions" on the war, but much in the same way that people have opinions about ice cream flavors and favorite colors. Unless people feel a direct impact, it's tough to motivate them to do something.
Robert Brager
September 8th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
In spite of the frequent typos (which become charming after a while), that's a lucid, extremely focused work that pulls no punches. St. Clair and the Cockburns consistently impress. And I say that as, for lack of a better word in this forum, a libertarian.
john
September 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Much of the so called anti-war movement during the Viet Nam era was not anti-war at all; it was anti draft. And to an extent it was even pro-war with many, as symbolized by Jane Fonda on that anti-aircraft gun, wanting the communists to win. There was even that anti-final exam contingent who, as soon as final exams were cancelled, headed for Europe or their usual vacation retreats in the Hamptons, The Cape, Fire Island, Newport and such. The real anti-war activists were few; the others were just self centered brats waiting for the draft to end, after which they trimmed their hair, quit the job like teaching that gave them a deferrment, and started their quest for money and the easy life.
silas1898
September 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Well, Clinton was Left of Atilla the Hun.
Catherine
September 8th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Justin,
I admire your columns, although that might not have come across clearly in my comments here. Are you familiar with Dave Kersting and his writings on Palestine? It would be very interesting to see him contribute a few columns to antiwar.com
Sam Lowry
September 8th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
"um …. sorry to break it to you but Clinton was no leftist."
That was sort of my point. Some people are fooled by Clinton. Others are fooled by Marx.
"Marx was right about one thing for sure – that militant imperialism was an enevitable outcome of capitalism."
I think that was Lenin, not Marx. And militant imperialism has been with us far longer than capitalism. All capitalism did (to the degree that it was allowed to flourish) is give the rulers more to tax.
ScottC
September 8th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
As to controlling the means of production, you miss the Koch bros. many gov't contracts, deregulation of utilities, subsidies for oil, Cable, Telephony, the privatization of Toll Roads and on and on. Keep your eyes out for an article coming out from Ed Wallace on "It's not the Taxes" about how speculation and deregulation are ripping us all off. He is a business friendly reporter who calls it like he sees it. Winner of the Gerald R. Loeb award and has a better news site than drudge http://www.insideautomotive.com He is a local reporter and has a 5 hour radio show on Sat. in Dallas. He covers rock and roll history, cars, oil, Americana, politics and related issues. I believe him to be fair an earnest willing to criticize on a bi-partisan level. He doesn't vote and repeatedly claims I can't tell the difference. He also is against ethanol, which, if you have insight, is dead on. Sorry Justin, you should check his site twice a day too. Morning and night it's updated with stories in the press from around the globe.
Montaigne
September 9th, 2010 at 1:30 am
Yes, I think you have nourished a gullible population more than anything else, always ready to exploit others. That is my reason to believe you should change society into appealing to the grown up sides of human beings, instead of the simpletons, the easy tricks, the heavy whips kept ready against any opposition. The systematic collecting of possible dirt on people, the preference of corruptible fellows in leading positions – like a Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates. What it keeps in place is a constantly SICK society designed for small people with no dignity or honour. PRODUCING such robot types. So that IT persists.
emsnews
September 9th, 2010 at 5:26 am
Please, don't pull out that tripe about Roosevelt provoking the aggressive imperialist racist Japanese! It is as if Korea and China being invaded and brutally enslaved didn't matter one whit! The Japanese were intent on conquering their Asian neighbors and were constantly probing to see how far they could go. The sudden eruption of war between Germany and Britain and France when Hitler attacked Poland was seen by the Japanese military imperialists as a golden opportunity to race in and seize French, Dutch and British colonies.
The natives, far from being freed from European oppression, discovered there was an oppressor far nastier in the form of the Japanese militarists who sardonically worked people to death as slaves, raped young school girls and bayonetted whole cities for the sheer fun of killing people the old way, with swords.
Understandably, many, many people were totally disgusted with this as well as with Nazis doing the same brutal things and this is why US troops were greeted as liberators during all of WWII. Only when we stupidly allowed the European imperialists back in to repossess the lands they took via prior military operations, did our status as liberator rapidly turn into oppressor. But at no time did we ever fall to the levels of depravity of the Germans and Japanese. Not even remotely even with the horrible stuff we are doing today. Though we certainly seem on a trajectory moving in that direction.
emsnews
September 9th, 2010 at 5:58 am
Correct. The libertarians love to be against 'war' but they also embrace….free trade and unfettered capitalism. They cannot possibly understand how these two things leads to imperialism and war. Japan is still very much an imperial power: they even took over much of our own native auto production systems and have aggressively aggrandized our own nation so that auto sales profits now flow mostly to Tokyo even as we have to stand as a bulwark against their Asian neighbors while they kick us in the teeth over having bases in Japan itself. They want us to protect them by having bases surround China, keeping bases in former Japanese colony of Korea and the various Pacific islands the Japanese used as military bases during WWII.
Sam Lowry
September 9th, 2010 at 6:53 am
"Please, don't pull out that tripe about Roosevelt provoking the aggressive imperialist racist Japanese! It is as if Korea and China being invaded and brutally enslaved didn't matter one whit!"
Then why did Congress have to wait until the Japanese attacked the Pacific Fleet before declaring war? The simple fact is that at that time the American public wouldn't have put up with it. Follow the references. It's been well-established that Roosevelt not only had foreknowledge of the attack, but that he deliberately provoked it as a political means to pull the U.S. into the war.
And the ultimate consequence of U.S. participation in WWII was to hand half of Europe over to a tyrant who was an order of magnitude worse than Hitler.
What we learn in government schools about history is complete garbage. And the politicians who sacrifice lives, limbs, and treasure for the sake of war need to be exposed for the monsters they are.
Montaigne
September 9th, 2010 at 9:34 am
"But at no time did we ever fall to the levels of depravity of the Germans and Japanese. Not even remotely even with the horrible stuff we are doing today. Though we certainly seem on a trajectory moving in that direction. "
Yes, because you are more enlightened and civilized. The aim is to get the people to kill and massacre, and then you get in. However, with the really bad Stalins and Hitlers gone, the real face of the monster of imperialism becomes clearer every day. Disappearance of accountability, torture, illegal killings – what a glorious society to become revealed when military opponents of significance have been removed!
Robert Brager
September 9th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Please define "free trade" and "unfettered capitalism". Then, if you have the time, point to real-world examples of such. Then, while you're on a roll, isolate the mechanism by which free trade and unfettered capitalism lead to imperialism and war.
And if the above is any indication in regards to the substance of the lesson you'll be treating us to, permit me to say that you need to put more effort into your presentation. Because I don't see at all what your opening statements regarding "free trade" and "unfettered capitalism" have to do with the remainder of the body of your post.
thisdarlingman
September 13th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
There's a lot of talk about a Left / Right Anti-War Coalition, but who's willing to step up to the plate and make it happen? My e-mail is onlyamortal.darling37@gmail.com. I'm from the Bay Area, if your interested, shoot me a line.