It’s Time to Leave Afghanistan
Statement before the House of Representatives’ Foreign Affairs Committee on December 10, 2009.
Mr. Speaker thank you for holding these important hearings on US policy in Afghanistan. I would like to welcome the witnesses, Ambassador Karl W. Eikenberry and General Stanley A. McChrystal, and thank them for appearing before this Committee.
I have serious concerns, however, about the president’s decision to add some 30,000 troops and an as yet undisclosed number of civilian personnel to escalate our Afghan operation. This "surge" will bring US troop levels to approximately those of the Soviets when they occupied Afghanistan with disastrous result back in the 1980s. I fear the US military occupation of Afghanistan may end up similarly unsuccessful.
In late 1986 Soviet armed forces commander, Marshal Sergei Akhromeev, told then-Soviet General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev, "Military actions in Afghanistan will soon be seven years old. There is no single piece of land in this country which has not been occupied by a Soviet soldier. Nonetheless, the majority of the territory remains in the hands of rebels." Soon Gorbachev began the Soviet withdrawal from its Afghan misadventure. Thousands were dead on both sides, yet the occupation failed to produce a stable national Afghan government.
Eight years into our own war in Afghanistan the Soviet commander’s words ring eerily familiar. Part of the problem stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation. It is our presence as occupiers that feeds the insurgency. As would be the case if we were invaded and occupied, diverse groups have put aside their disagreements to unify against foreign occupation. Adding more US troops will only assist those who recruit fighters to attack our soldiers and who use the US occupation to convince villages to side with the Taliban.
Proponents of the president’s Afghanistan escalation cite the successful "surge" in Iraq as evidence that this second surge will have similar results. I fear they might be correct about the similar result, but I dispute the success propaganda about Iraq. In fact, the violence in Iraq only temporarily subsided with the completion of the ethnic cleansing of Shi’ites from Sunni neighborhoods and vice versa – and all neighborhoods of Christians. Those Sunni fighters who remained were easily turned against the foreign al-Qaeda presence when offered US money and weapons. We are increasingly seeing this "success" breaking down: sectarian violence is flaring up and this time the various groups are better armed with US-provided weapons. Similarly, the insurgents paid by the US to stop their attacks are increasingly restive now that the Iraqi government is no longer paying bribes on a regular basis. So I am skeptical about reports on the success of the Iraqi surge.
Likewise, we are told that we have to "win" in Afghanistan so that al-Qaeda cannot use Afghan territory to plan further attacks against the US. We need to remember that the attack on the United States on September 11, 2001, was, according to the 9/11 Commission Report, largely planned in the United States (and Germany) by terrorists who were in our country legally. According to the logic of those who endorse military action against Afghanistan because al-Qaeda was physically present, one could argue in favor of US airstrikes against several US states and Germany! It makes no sense. The Taliban allowed al-Qaeda to remain in Afghanistan because both had been engaged, with US assistance, in the insurgency against the Soviet occupation.
Nevertheless, the president’s National Security Advisor, Gen. James Jones, USMC (Ret.), said in a recent interview that less than 100 al-Qaeda remain in Afghanistan and that the chance they would reconstitute a significant presence there was slim. Are we to believe that 30,000 more troops are needed to defeat 100 al-Qaeda fighters? I fear that there will be increasing pressure for the US to invade Pakistan, to where many Taliban and al-Qaeda have escaped. Already CIA drone attacks on Pakistan have destabilized that country and have killed scores of innocents, producing strong anti-American feelings and calls for revenge. I do not see how that contributes to our national security.
The president’s top advisor for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke, said recently, "I would say this about defining success in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In the simplest sense, the Supreme Court test for another issue, we’ll know it when we see it." That does not inspire much confidence.
Supporters of this surge argue that we must train an Afghan national army to take over and strengthen the rule and authority of Kabul. But experts have noted that the ranks of the Afghan national army are increasingly being filled by the Tajik minority at the expense of the Pashtun plurality. US diplomat Matthew Hoh, who resigned as Senior Civilian Representative for the U.S. Government in Zabul Province, noted in his resignation letter that he "fail[s] to see the value or the worth in continued U.S. casualties or expenditures of resources in support of the Afghan government in what is, truly, a 35-year old civil war." Mr. Hoh went on to write that "[L]ike the Soviets, we continue to secure and bolster a failing state, while encouraging an ideology and system of government unknown and unwanted by [the Afghan] people."
I have always opposed nation-building as unconstitutional and ineffective. Afghanistan is no different. Without a real strategy in Afghanistan, without a vision of what victory will look like, we are left with the empty rhetoric of the last administration that "when the Afghan people stand up, the US will stand down." I am afraid the only solution to the Afghanistan quagmire is a rapid and complete US withdrawal from that country and the region. We cannot afford to maintain this empire and our occupation of these foreign lands is not making us any safer. It is time to leave Afghanistan.
Read more by Rep. Ron Paul
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- Congress Exploits Our Fears to Take Our Liberty – April 21st, 2013
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- Neo-Con War Addiction Threatens Our Future – March 24th, 2013





omop
December 12th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Congressman Paul aught to be congratulated and supported for being the only politician true to form for his beliefs and rational views on US foreign policies.
Sad to state that Bill Kristol an avowed neocon/chickenhawk is given more media coverage and thereby promoting US military interventions in the Middle East and elsewhere.
Its long overdue to ask Mr. Kristol and his supporters where in the US Constitution does it mention that the President of the US is mandated to military intervene if he feels like its his duty to "chamge regimes in other countries".?
If US policies continue to be dependent on the views the likes of Bill Kristol, the US military will in all probability be in Afghanistan for the next 50/60 years as they have been in Japan and elsewhere.
MvGuy
December 12th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
****************** The hope of audacity…….???????????………….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The hope of audacity is not always a good thing…. Like the homeless man begging two dollars, spending one on wine and the other on a scratch ticket, hey if you don't play you can't win..!!
Surely the best way to not win is to lose. If you can't get the whole amount of your rent together, should you call the landlord and friends to try to find more money, perhaps work, or should you take the money and buy scratch tickets..?? You could win, right…?? What does the record tell us about gambling our paychecks to buy a condo..?? It is sending hope after disappointment.. It is wishful think elevated to a vice…… It is hope against reality when we endeavor to chase deluded dreams of exceptionalism with the resources we require for sustenance.. We need to dream our dreams, but we need to be real about consequences.. Is Obama lying to us..?? Yes, but it's worse than that, he has drunk the neocon cool aids and he has begun lying to himself too… "We are doin G-d's werk, how can we fail..??" Too much success is narcotic in nature in that it induces euphoria.. and Obama has climber to dizzying heights…… He's a little light headed, you can see it in his beatific smile…."I've come SO far……the rest will be easy"….. The 33,OOO man escalation was bad enough, though probably the only realistic political choice he could make to "support the troops"….. but the worrying revisionist history he extolled accepting the prize, along with his deluded claims of exceptionalism makes my wonder just what he is smoking these days….as he assumes the bush "what me worry" attitude…..
What Obama needs to do is TOUR BURNT, BATTERED and BROKEN DETROIT before he commits more men and women and America's dwindling resources to the neocon dream of containing Islam…..
The spell will wear off and the high will diminish.. What will we find as the jingoism slips to quagmire and the bills come due….. He could have been a contender………
Andron
December 12th, 2009 at 9:54 am
In hindsight what fools elected Obama as President having been fooled by false promises of change.
At least throughout his campaign Senator Ron Paul consistently spoke the truth and continues to do so.
If only………………..
AVietNamWarVet
December 12th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
It was said of Rome: "The Roman empire did not fall because its armies weakened. It fell because its people forgot what it was like to be Romans." One day that will be said of America. We've elected a President and a Congress, neither of whom are looking out for the welfare of the American people or of America – and – sadly, we've turned into such 'sheep' that we are allowing them to destroy the country. Sun Tsu – author of 'The Art of War' – observed: "There has never been an instance of a country having benefitted by prolonged warfare." While the Zionist Neocons brag that "America is the new and more powerful Rome" – they need to look at the 'old Rome' which is dust on the pages of History along with ALL previous empires. Obama is a smiling idiot and an accomplished LIAR – perhaps a Marxist whose agenda is to destroy America? One wonders about the members of our Congress – are they all so dumb and stupoid? – or – is their agenda to destroy America? Afghanistan is "the graveyard of empires and of soldiers" – it wil be the graveyard of the US!
Mike
December 12th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
If I had known before the last presidential election the truth about what Obama was all about I would have ran shouting in the streets that we needed you as the next president.
It used to be when a political leader lied to get into office they would at least appologize for the lie as — well I didnt understand the situation when I made those promises — but now we dont even seem to have that courtesey. Its like a joke or just how big a lie will the American people believe – a whopper contest where they vie for the honor of telling the biggest lie and the masses just accept it.
Your logic and reasoning is right on and laser accurate – I for one am very glad we have someone in Washington who actually has a clue and is willing to try to do the right thing.
Keep up the great work and congratulations on being someone who in my opinion actually deserves the status of – honorable statesman
Henry_Clemens
December 13th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Congressman Paul said; "We cannot afford to maintain this empire and our occupation of these foreign lands is not making us any safer. It is time to leave Afghanistan." Congressman Paul is 100% correct. Unfortunately, he is only one of a handful of Congressmen and Congresswomen who actually gives a damn about the future of America and her people.
Andy
December 13th, 2009 at 12:14 am
The United States should abandon all of its overseas bases, Japan, Okinawa, South Korea, Germany, etc. There is no reason why American troops need to be deployed abroad.
Henry_Clemens
December 13th, 2009 at 12:34 am
I second that motion!
Connestee
December 13th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
While I agree with Rep. Paul's comments, it is time for people like him to address the fact that statements like he made in this hearing are not making any difference. It made me sick to watch the smug looks on Hillary Clinton and Robert Gates faces when he recently questioned them on the Bush doctrine. Link is here:
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-12-02/ron-paul-asks-r…
Imo he needs to be at the forefront of organizing antiwar protests that have some teeth, that is, the ability to put some fear into the elite supporters and managers of endless wars and occupations. I know my opinion is viewed as militant by those in power, and perhaps some here, but to me it is unpatriotic to just stand by helpless and only offer passive resistance when it is obviously in vain. It is our responsibility to reel in this bunch so the USA can hopefully return to being what the writers of the Constitution intended.
Connestee
December 13th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
While I agree with Rep. Paul's comments, it is time for people like him to address the fact that statements like he made in this hearing are not making any difference. It made me sick to watch the smug looks on Hillary Clinton and Robert Gates faces when he recently questioned them on the Bush doctrine. Link is here:
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-12-02/ron-paul-asks-r…
Imo he needs to be at the forefront of organizing antiwar protests that have some teeth, that is, the ability to put some fear into the elite supporters and managers of endless wars and occupations. I know my opinion is viewed as militant by those in power, and perhaps some here, but to me it is unpatriotic to just stand by helpless and only offer passive resistance when it is obviously in vain. It is our responsibility to reel in this bunch so the USA can hopefully return to being what the writers of the Constitution intended.
minemule
December 13th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Obama always said he would continue the war in Afghanistan, so what the American people are getting is exactly what they voted for which is perpetual war for perpetual peace.
PJW
December 23rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Turn out all the Bums except the Honorable Ron Paul. After Nam I made the decision that if you are thousands of miles away from your home and you are carrying a gun, then you are in the wrong. I am in the belief that the only way to remove ourselves from Empire status is to divert to State's Rights. Washington, DC is farther away from the people than the capitals of the states. The people have a better chance of controlling their government when it is closer to home. Now we have government controlling the people to the point that if I heard we were all going to have strings attached to our arms and legs so we can dance, dance, dance to their idiotic tune, well I would almost believe it..