What Just Happened in Bosnia
Something unusual happened in Bosnia last week. It made barely a blip on the news radar, as the mainstream media focused mostly on stateside sex scandals. What little did get mentioned was bent and twisted to conform to the official narrative. A typical example is this terse report by the AP:
The EU foreign policy chief says she has warned Bosnian Serbs not to expect changes from an agreement that ended their country’s civil war in the 1990s.
Dodik had threatened to hold a referendum that could have caused the treaty to unravel. But he backed down after Ashton’s visit last week.
Serbs are seeking more powers for their mini-state and question the authority of the top administrator, the Austrian diplomat Valentin Inzko.
Business as usual, then: the evil Serbs seek to undo the peace agreement but are stopped at the last minute by the virtuous international community, this time in the persona of Catherine Ashton. Nothing to see here.
Or is there?
What Dayton Says
The AP version of events is strongly reminiscent of that old joke about someone selling tiger repellent in Kansas. Namely, the notion that Catherine Ashton—or Valentin Inzko—were trying to protect the Dayton agreement from the power-hungry Serbs is a neat inversion of what actually took place.
In late 1995, the civil war in Bosnia ended with the Dayton Accords. Annex IV of the Accords was the new constitution, which set up Bosnia as a loose union of two state-like entities, the Muslim-Croat Federation (FBiH), established by the 1994 Washington Agreement, and the Serb Republic (RS). The joint government was to have six institutions and very limited powers.
Over the years, however, a series of international viceroys—”high representatives”—have imposed a number of “reforms” on the country, taking powers from the entities and creating a stronger central government. The number of joint institutions has increased to over 80. One of these institutions is the Court of Bosnia-Herzegovina, set up by viceroy Ashdown in 2003.
For several years now, the Bosnian Serbs have complained about the court being biased and used an instrument of abuse. Located in the facility used by the Muslims during the war to hold Serb prisoners, the court has systematically prosecuted cases of alleged Serb atrocities. RS authorities claim that whenever they tried to prosecute Muslims or Croats accused of atrocities against the Serbs, the court would claim jurisdiction, then toss the cases into the proverbial memory hole.
In April this year, the RS parliament approved the initiative to hold a referendum on the legitimacy of the court and the state prosecutor’s office, asserting that neither was constitutional. But there was more to it than that. In his report to the UN Security Council on May 11, Inzko argued that a successful referendum would “put into question all laws enacted by the respective high representatives claiming they are in violation of the Peace Agreement.”
How could defending the constitution be considered a challenge to it?
Under the sort of logic the Empire employs in Bosnia, Dayton is personified in the viceroy. Seeking to reclaim powers unconstitutionally seized by the viceroy therefore translates into “seeking more powers,” and any challenge to the viceroy’s absolute power becomes a threat to the peace agreement itself.
Inzko sent an ultimatum to the RS parliament: cancel the referendum by May 12, or else.
A Clash of Wills
It is an observable fact that today’s Bosnia hardly resembles the one sketched out in its own constitution. There is nothing to suggest that any of the “reforms” imposed over the past decade by the succession of viceroys has furthered the cause of reconciliation between the former belligerents. Only one imposition—the neutral license plates for vehicles—has actually met with unanimous approval.
Another imposition furthering tensions was the centralized revenue department (UIO), set up to collect and disburse the 17 percent countrywide value-added tax. The Serbs now claim they are being robbed to pay for the bureaucracy-heavy Federation (which has 10 provincial and one central government), whose financial woes are holding up arrangements with the IMF. Meanwhile, Federation politics are also holding up the inauguration of the new central government, seven months after the general elections. Yet Bosnia’s troubles always get blamed on the RS.
As May 12 approached, everything seemed set for a clash of wills between the viceroy and the Serbs. Then the Empire gave in.
Ashton vs. Inzko
Baroness Catherine Ashton, EU’s foreign policy commissar, came to the Bosnian Serb capital of Banja Luka the morning of May 12, and met with President Milorad Dodik. Following the meeting, she announced that “flaws” had been found in the operations of the court and prosecutor’s office, and that they would be investigated by an EU commission. In exchange, she said, the Bosnian Serbs agreed to cancel the referendum.
Postpone, Dodik helpfully corrected, as he argued that the purpose of it—to draw attention to the biased conduct of the judiciary—was accomplished. There was “no need” for a referendum right now, but the RS still reserved the right to question the viceroy’s powers, he said.
Whether he or Inzko was bluffing turned out not to matter: Ashton forced Inzko to fold, just days after he’d claimed to have the “full support” of the Empire.
The RS public opinion was somewhat divided on the matter. Opposition politicians accused Dodik of “deceiving and betraying” the people by not staying the course. Some commentators even compared the deal with Serbia’s capitulation to Ashton last September, when Belgrade abandoned its Kosovo policy in exchange for absolutely nothing from Brussels. But if the primary objective of calling for the referendum was to challenge the viceroy’s absolute power, then Dodik has most certainly succeeded.
Exit The Viceroy?
Ashton’s subsequent posturing about how she gave the Serbs the what-for and saved Dayton from itself most likely represents an attempt to control the fallout and put the Bosnian narrative back on track. For the same reason, Valentin Inzko may get a promotion from the Austrian foreign ministry sometime soon. His ability to project absolute power is now at its lowest point, and his continuation in office has become a liability for the Empire. The viceroys derive their authority solely from the belief that their interpretation of the Dayton Accords cannot be subject to challenge. That belief has been seriously challenged in the last several years, and particularly by this latest teacup tempest.
It is unlikely that the Empire will abandon the “stubborn, futile nation-building project” that is Bosnia. Nor is it likely that the country’s ethnic communities will somehow find common ground overnight—not after nearly two decades of military and political conflict. However, one or more parties have always looked to the Empire to play a decisive role in that conflict, on their side. That belief may now be in question, for good or ill.
So there was something to see, after all.
Read more by Nebojsa Malic
- Victory Day – May 10th, 2013
- Consenting to Rape – April 25th, 2013
- An Unexpected Refusal – April 12th, 2013
- Lawless: An Oddly Exceptional Empire – March 28th, 2013
- Illusion of Triumph – March 21st, 2013





MichaelKenny
May 20th, 2011 at 4:21 am
All this, of course, is part of the ongoing collpase of the American Empire. The EU is undoubtedly delighted, since the Dayton solution could never have been permanent but it has held the lid on things until the three communities could agree on a formula to separate peacefully. So the Empire folds and the EU sits there purring contentedly, like a cat that's got at the milk without anybody seeing it!
ROQUE SANTA CRUZ
May 20th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
the equation is so simple yet no one understands. serbs want to be serbs, croats want to be with croats, muslims want to be with muslims. if bosnia was split this way in the 1990's there would have been no war you would not be reding this right now. i' m sick of hearing greater serbia here greater serbia there. they tried Milosevic for 4 years and could not pin anything on him. so get over it.
Stanislav Kalenic
May 21st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Wishful thinking. The Empire will not fold as long as there are "operatives" on all four corners of Earth (where-ever there is ethnic or religious conflict). These "do-gooders", will very easily provoke wars (in or with) Syria, Yemen, Rwanda, Ethopia, Somalia and the remainder of the list of "usual suspects" which will in turn result in more exotic taxes in the U.S. and give us a partial sembalnce of post-transfusion well-being after the first few surgical internventions. I predict it will be decades before the Empire folds – we will see out Interstate Highway system being sold piece-meal, our enargy supplies/suppliers change hands and sources only at that time will there be a true fold. Another sure sign is going to be the sale of US Postal Service to Fedex or UPS or DHL.
Stanislav Kalenic
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Just as I predicted a day ago. We now have "a new point of concern" in Southern Sudan and Yemen.
Nikkos
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Well it took them 16 years to prosecute those Croats who with huge help of US retired generals and F15 ethnically cleansed Krayina region in Croatia of 250 00 Serbs.
No not evan 16 years of end of war not any journalist wrote about Kazani pit in Sarajevo,or prison in Tarcin or killing Garage in Hrasnica.I know if is not in NYT it never happens
Let me just add few notorious crimes like 1992 Sijekovac before war started
Mrkonjic Grad,( Bosnia ) 145 burned and killed Serbs by Croatian Army from Croatia
and still this court with blessing or OHR is stalling prosecution of any Bosnian elite.
Just recent discovery of 20 burned body's of Croats killed my Bosnian Muslims where the Commander responsible for those killings is the head of Federal Bosnian Army,,…general Cikotic
Western Leftist
May 24th, 2011 at 1:13 am
Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are wrong, but war against Serbia was very right and very justified. Funny people, these Serb nationalists. They scream "imperialism", "injustice", "oppression" wherever some (real or perceived) injustice or wrong is being done to them, whereas they think that the Serbs have some natural right to rule over other peoples of the Balkans, to oppress others, to kill others when they don't want to submit to the Serb dominance, to practice their own little local imperialism. If one doesn't accept this double standard, one gets accused by those Serb nationalist (and by a handful of western Serb-apologists on the left and on the right) of being a "Serbophobe", an "anti-Serb" or what not. This silly self-righteousness of Serbs and their sense of alleged "mission" reminds of similar attitudes of western European powers of yore, who thought they were entitled to rule the world and to oppress non-European peoples (colonialism, imperialism), because they thought of themselves as of some kind of force of civilization and progress in the world. Serbia looks like a little Balkanic banana-republic style copy of those old European imperialists and fascists. Only that Serbs are less successful in their endeavors. They cry like little spoiled children and scream "victim" when they are denied their candy, when other peoples decline to accept their domination, when they are not allowed to kill anyone they want, when the modern "West" and the international community don't want to accept their double standard (no sane person does).
Vuckov
May 24th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Now when you exposed your ignorance go back and read history
of the area. Your pseudo tell us all.
Western Leftist
May 25th, 2011 at 1:53 am
Vuckov, you can't fool me with this kind of rhetoric. I know more than enough about the history of Southern Slavs and of the Balkans. All nationalist ideologies in that area are bad, but the Serbian nationalism is arguably the worst. Why? Precisely because of its extremely self-righteous attitude. According to it, one set of rules is supposed to apply to Serbs, another one to everyone else. And the whole world should accept this kind of idiocy. Serb nationalists of all colors see their own nation as one endowed with especially glorious historical record, from the Middle Ages up to the First and to the Second World War, as a result of which everyone should approve of anything they do. That's silly. Nobody cares about your history, glorious or inglorious as it might have been. What matters is your behavior in the present time. I've been to Belgrade and Pristina, and I openly say I prefer Pristina. Belgrade is much richer and more developed, that's true, but there I was molested with exceedingly boring stories about Serb medieval kings and Serb "suffering" throughout history. Albanians of Kosovo, on the other hand, are not so much stuck in the past. They are looking forward and willing to improve their lot, to assimilate some ideas of the modern civilization, without losing their identity.
Western Leftist
May 25th, 2011 at 1:57 am
I mean, Belgrade also has excellent liberal intellectuals who want to leave the past behind and move further, to accept the reality of independent Kosova (no typo here), like Ceda Jovanovic and similar, but it seems to me they are in the minority. Many people, perhaps more than 50% of the population, are still stuck in that medieval silliness. But it can change, though education and learning values of the modern world. Germany got de-Nazified, so I don't see why Serbia couldn't get de-kosovized (referring to the Kosovo myth).
Stanislav Kalenic
May 25th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Yes, it is very fashionable to call yourself a "Western Leftist" – now that the EU is barely making any progress within the stated goals and far below the expectations, with Portugal and Greece on the verge of financial collapse – sure, you call yourself a leftist. Nevertheless "a Western Leftist" is an oxymoron and a gross contradiction. KosovO (no typo here for sure) is an independent state, just as much as Giepetto's Pinochio is a real boy. The last "Western Leftists" died with Dolores Ibariuri, Karl Marx and the like. You are just a fahionable leftist, since the rightists got themselves painted in a corner. There is simply no other word to use unless you invent a new political ideology (say: Agogist – product of a Hellenic Agoge, or Socratist – product of a fruitful exchange of well argumented views) but we all know that anything "Western" could not be farther from those two. Your knowledge of the Balkans shines with ill-informed CNN-created pseudo-history, and if I were you I would consider Ben Franklin's "it better to keep quit and let there be doubt on your own stupidity, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".
Stanislav Kalenic
May 25th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Not enough space to finish the entire thought for the "Western Leftist" – rodeo clown, let's hope that the winds of change stop blowing and your head stops spinning with your face forward. Any and all leftists' views have a strong social + mutual respect of sovereignity components which I do not see so generously applied in Cataluna, Paises Bascos, Flander/Valons, Catholic/Protestant Irerland. What happened there? The KosovO (no typo) can be amputated but these other "Western provinces are somehow immune to the same laws. The law of gravity does not work there? What miracle is that? How about the Greek majority in Cyprus, Anatolia? French Quebecoise in Canada, etc. etc. Again, the "leftists' logic grounds to a halt? How convenient.
Stanislav Kalenic
May 25th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Trust me do keep QUIET (I had one escaped typo – sorry), but here are some very challenging topics for any Westerner (both the rightists and the leftists may apply):
a) Brazil's view on the IMF frauds http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/25/brazil-…
b) The unstoppable train wreck of the Euro-economics: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304…
I will pretend like I didn't notice you failed to reply to any posts at all with any argument whatsoever.
Cheers (it must be hard being you).
Stanislav Kalenic
May 25th, 2011 at 9:05 am
I am sure that as a Westerner you must be familiar with Western views on war (John Locke, Thommas Hobbes) and finally:
"There was never a good war or a bad peace." Benjamin Franklin
I keep wondering why is that so complicated for CNN poisoned shallow minds? Do you have a mind of any depth at all?
Stanislav Kalenic
May 25th, 2011 at 10:24 am
What happened here? A Shquiptarescu became a "Western Leftist" thinking nobody will notice his ignorance and utter stupidity? Once you open you mouth – it's enough. No need to say anything else. Lack of basic common sense illustrates your mental capacity and your national origin in spite of the "clever" mask (my foot).
Stanislav Kalenic
May 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Isn't it amazing how many inroads the "clever Albanians" have attempted to make in order to sabotage the writings of Nebojsa Malic – I guess it must be true when people say that the TRUTH hurts a LOT.
Stanislav Kalenic
May 25th, 2011 at 10:29 am
A suggestion for a new name for the Western Leftitst – "KLA baby-killer",
"kidney thief",
"organ trafficker"?
Pick one, you will be a lot less wrong and a lot more right – which is very uncomon in KosovO.
Suvorov
May 25th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Hm, I wonder why would Albanians be more reluctant to talk about their past than Serbs? Lets consider it yet another riddle too difficult for a CNN viewer to solve.
Of course, I don't see why Albanians would talk about their present either, so their only straw seems to be some illusory bright future in the European Union, which in reality might be even shorter-lived than "Kosova".
Suvorov
May 25th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
If Ceda Jovanovic is an intellectual, then Hashim Thaci is a law-abiding citizen. Of course, what could be expected from someone who compares Kosovo myth to Nazism.
Western Leftist
May 26th, 2011 at 4:21 am
What a heap of idiocies! Even from a formal, linguistic point of view this post from Suvorov has absolutely no meaning. What did the author want to say? Nothing.
Western Leftists
May 26th, 2011 at 4:24 am
My only family relation to Eastern Europe is that I have one Slovak grandmother.
Born and raised in Belgium, by Walloon parents (mother half-Slovak, as I said).
I am happy not to have been born in eastern Europe or in the Balkans where savage nationalism seems to rule everywhere, especially among Serbs. I feel sorry though for people who have been born and must live there.
Western Leftist
May 26th, 2011 at 4:33 am
Where are the proofs for Hashim Thaci's organ trafficking? Proofs, gentlemen! Maybe conspiracy theories and enunciations of some Swiss politician of dubious repute is enough for internet warriors like Suvorov or Nebojsa Malic, but it's definitely not enough for any serious court of law.
Nobody speaks about that alleged organ harvesting any more, meaning that it was probably a hoax invented by Serbs and spread by some pro-Serb lobbyists in the West. At first I believed it too. It was on all media and I expected some proofs to emerge soon. But nothing.
Western Leftist
May 26th, 2011 at 4:37 am
Today is the great day: the war criminal, butcher of Srebrenica, perpetrator the genocide in Bosnia, Ratko Mladic has been arrested!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_serbia_mladic
paleo
May 26th, 2011 at 5:02 am
[Snort]
After Congo, Belgians should be the last to be calling other Europeans savages. What your king and cohorts did there makes the 1990s Balkan wars look like a polite tea party. Cutting off the hands of children to match them to bullet casings, indeed!
These same beasts, who provided no apologies or compensation to their African victims, now dare to point their finger at others and cry about human rights.
paleo
May 26th, 2011 at 5:06 am
What proofs? The only rigorous proof is to find the organ recipients, biopsy the transplanted organs, and match them to family members of missing Kosovo Serbs. That's only possible with proper documentation, which may still exist, or may have been destroyed.
Or are you claiming that families of missing Kosovo Serbs lodged false reports and their relatives are still alive?
Western Leftist
May 26th, 2011 at 5:26 am
I abhor all kinds of Fascists and imperialists. Belgians did horrible things in Congo, yes. These events should be elucidated and no honor should be payed to that scoundrel king Leopold II and to others who let that happen. I am not speaking here in the name of Belgium or Belgians.
But that does not change nothing in regard to Serbian crimes in the Balkans? What do you imply? Because of Belgian crimes in Congo, I should approve of Serbian crimes in the Balkans and approve of the Serbian self-righteousness which is not much different from the righteousness of Western European colonialists of yesterday. It is precisely because I loathe the Belgian (and other European) colonialists, that I loathe Serb nationalists as well. Because I see many similarities between them. Many right-wingers, Fascists and those who dislike immigrants are very pro-Serb here. They say: "Hey, these Serbs are fine people. They killed Muslims too." And some Serbs are also trying to gain some "credentials" of the American war-mongers, by pointing out that they too have some merits in fighting islam and that they have been "unjustly demonized". While on the other hand they portray themselves as "victims of the American imperialism". So weird.
Western Leftist
May 26th, 2011 at 5:37 am
I think those relatives are dead and reports are probably not false. They were probably killed by Albanians, out of hatred against Serbs or out of revenge (the same thing Serbs were doing to Albanians, it's the eternal cycle of hatred and revenge and more hatred etc, always going on in the Balkans). Their corpses have not be found, so they are numbered among "the missing". Something like that happens in wars. But then, afterwards, it was invented that those missing had been killed for organs. It was done for propagandistic reasons, to make appear Albanians as monsters. And it's not so easy to "harvest organs" in the first place. One needs special conditions, not every organ fits to every person, clinics usually do much correspondence before an organ is accepted for transplantation etc.
During the Bosnian war it was claimed that Bosnian Serbs harvested organs from Bosniak prisoners. Later on it turned out to be a hoax. Most of organ-harvesting stories are either pure urban legend or propaganda.
paleo
May 26th, 2011 at 5:44 am
Then maybe you should found an organization that pushes for Belgium to recognize those horrors and compensate for them. Belgium has done nothing, I repeat, nothing, to recognize or compensate. Not only that, they self-righteously have a law allowing them to prosecute any alleged war criminal, anywhere. Remember Ariel Sharon?
Why don't they (and you) start a bit closer to home?: it's not only Congo, but also Rwanda (the Belgians came up with those identity cards that enabled the 1994 genocide to happen, and also established the racialist Tutsi-Hutu hierarchy that so poisoned relations during colonial times), and extensive WWII collaboration with the Reich.
All we ask is that you start with your own doorstep before screaming at others.
There are no similarities between European colonialists and traditional Serb nationalists. European colonialists advocated their racial and cultural superiority over "lesser peoples", which would justify conquest of others' lands and use of their natural and human resources. The main thrust of Serbian nationalism has been unification of a scattered nation divided by different polities (first the Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman Empires, then union in Yugoslavia, and again disintegration into Serbia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, and Montenegro – as Kosovo and Croatia have been largely cleansed of the Serb minorities). There is no racial theory in Serbian nationalism. It has far more in common with the ideology behind the unification of Italy under Garibaldi or Germany under Bismarck than Belgian, French, British, or Spanish colonialisms. Since WWII, Serbian nationalism has also had a strong note of national preservation as well, all the more understandable given that the Serbs have experienced massive atrocities against them in the 1990s, the Herzegovina uprising of the 1870s, and especially WWI, and an outright genocide in WWII. So in this regard there are similarities to Zionism and Armenian nationalism.
In short, you are ignorant of history. There are practically no similarities between Serbian nationalism and Western European colonialism. And no normal person either in Serbia, Western Europe, or the US, burnishes their credentials on "killing Muslims." Who are you arguing with and what are you talking about?
paleo
May 26th, 2011 at 6:01 am
There were lots of other hoaxes thrown on the Serbs, like throwing Albanians into Trepca mine smelting plants/acid vats, like Serb children being thrown to the lions in the Sarajevo zoo, like the rape camps where 60,000 Muslim women were raped, like Serbian doctors implanted dog embryos into the uteruses of Muslims, like 500,000 Albanians having been killed in 1999, like Dubrovnik having been shelled to the ground.
Lots of hoaxes, few truths. Question is: why have you basically bought into all the anti-Serb hoaxes but then get so very critical when it comes to this organ story? I don't know if it is true or not, but you here are basically toeing a 100% media line on the Serbs despite the fact that Western media reporting was full of hoaxes, exaggerations, and one-sided presentations.
Suvorov
May 26th, 2011 at 11:46 am
By a "serious court of law" you mean the one that allows 9 out of 10 "protected witnesses" to be murdered and the tenth one refuse to testify after being injured?
"Nobody speaks about that alleged organ harvesting any more, meaning that it was probably a hoax…"
Again you are demonstrating a CNN viewer's logic: "if I don't hear about something on MSM, then surely it cannot possibly exist."
Btw, it is your beloved "Kosovars" and not the Serbs who have lobbied incessantly in America for the past 20 years.
Finally, having a little amusement at some buffoon's expense does not make one an "Internet warrior".
Stanislav Kalenic
May 26th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
A sure sign of a NEO-Fascist (I will maintain that the "Western Leftist" is a born on the grounds of today's Albania – it wouldn't be the first time that a cheap, pedestrian, non-eloquent, quasi-intellectual, single digit intelect is coming to this forum to disrupt and provoke without one single iota of proof – let alone logic, common sense, knowledge of history, etc. DNA tests will take three more days to determine wether or not this is really Ratko Mladic or not. If you are a Belgian national how come you don't allow the Vallons to separate from the Dutch Flamans?
Febo
May 26th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Daj Nebojsa reci nesto o ovim Ustasama u usta te jebem banditska!
Bianca
May 26th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
To: Western Leftist
Your skillfull command of Balkan narrative tells me that you are no casual reader of this blog. You are using every propaganda lie in the book. Not only that you are not contributing by sharing something you actually KNOW, but you are industriously spreading, and repeating ad nauseum, the same old lies well drilled through the media into the consciousness of an average American.
Serbs are the ONLY real victims of Balkan wars, using every conceivable morbid metrics of any war. Most people killled in the 1991-1995, and then 1999 conflicts were Serbs. Most people forced out of their homes from Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo were Serbs. The largest refugee and internally displaced population in Balkans following wars were and remain Serbs. The most land (farmland) by acreage taken illegaly by others is from Serbs. Most homes, businesses, farm or business equipment taken by violence in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo belonged to Serbs.
Serbs had the right to defend themselves, as any other group in the Balkans. The logic that you seem to advocate is that Serbs should have just peacefully lined up at the gates of Jasenovac, or in Sarajevo or in Pristina to be exterminated for the second time in sixty years.
Bianca
May 26th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
The only genocide of Balkan wars was committed in Krajina, Croatia. The leaders of Croatia are on record, both written and audio, when they planned the extermination of Serbian people in Croatia. The generals arrested for that crime in Hague are found guilty of "joint criminal enterprise", avoiding the only appropriate word: genocide.
There was NO GENOCIDE in Bosnia by Bosnian Serbs. Nobody, not even Mr. Western Leftist can claim that it happened in Bosnia. Why lies? Unlike Croats and Moslems that never allied in the war, SERBS AND MOSLEMS OF BIHAC REGION WERE WARTIME ALLIES. Bosnian Moslem leader, Fikret Abdic and Serbs, FOUGHT AND DIED together against the Izabegovic's regime in Sarajevo. Many Moslems, Abdic supporters around Bihac area, were displaced by the fighting and RAN FOR PROTECTION INTO THE SERBIAN CONTROLLED REGION IN KRAINA. CROATIAN troups crossed over into Bosnia towards Bihac, and with the help of Western intelligence and troups from Sarajevo, captured Velika Kladusa and Bihac. Fikret Abdic is now a political prisoner in Croatian jail. He is VERY dangerous to the genocide narrative.
Bianca
May 26th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
You abhor? Then I presume you ABHOR lies. Do not go too far into history to look at what Belgians did in Rwanda, Burundi and Congo. Go no futher then Clinton's era, and check out who started the Rwandan massacre, who were the victims, and who the victors. Then follow on the sordid saga into Congo, where over five million human beings died without a peep from the "western" sensitive souls. Western soul cries on cue, and before tears start rolling, make sure that they roll for those whom we have an interest in. Hearts of cold stone are reserved for those who are to be wasted. No pity, no mercy. To help you get started, the staging ground in Uganda was the gathering place for Tutsi militias — funded, trained and armed in US. Unleashed onto unarmed poor majority Hutu, they mercillessly in a span of 90 days took over the country. Hutus ended in jungles where untold millions disappeared. Helpless families with little children were victims of animals and snake bites, and died of hunger in shabby refugee camps that nobody bothered to supply. But Tutsis were declared victims, and Hutus perpetrators of genocide. An inverted story, good enough for decades of work in Hague.
Bianca
May 26th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
As for all the Western liberal leftists, the charms of empire are too much. Enoy its power, while you can. The court in Hague brings Humpty Dumpty in mind.
And we, like Alice, wonder at the amazingly clever Humpty Dumpty. “I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory,’ ” Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t—till I tell you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’ ”
“But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’,” Alice objected.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master — that’s all.”
So, Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall, and then had a great fall. All of king's horses and all the King's men could not put Humpty Dumpty together again.
Western Leftist
May 27th, 2011 at 2:03 am
What a bunch inarticulate nonsense! The main "point" you are trying to make being that the "Serbs are true angels, all others are devils". I heard similar stories from other eastern European nationalists as well. It's always others who are guilty, one one's own nation is blameless. Give me break! Tell these fairy-tales to someone else.
Western Leftist
May 27th, 2011 at 2:06 am
Yawn, déjà, already seen and heard. I've read articles of WWII revisionists claiming that Germans were the biggest victims of that war. The fact that they started the war, committed aggressions against numerous countries is usually, but very conveniently, omitted in such narrative
Western Leftist
May 27th, 2011 at 2:23 am
This argument about CNN is so trite and idiotic. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you (and other Serb apologists) draw this silly "argument": "You must be some typical CNN watcher…" blah blah blah. Well, Suvy, it WAS on the CNN, this story of alleged organ harvesting. As it was in all other media outlets. So what's the point? The fact that something was on CNN, FOX News, Serbian State TV, Albanian State TV etc, doesn't make it automatically true or false.
Suvy, you ARE an internet warrior. You are angry because your beloved Serbs got busted and you somehow think the whole world should applaud to anything Serbs do. You think Serbs are somehow special. In other words, you are not living in reality, but in your delusions. Anger coupled with feeling of impotence to do anything about that what you dislike (the Serbs having been busted, that is) makes you a true buffoon. No, you are not amusing yourself, you are suffering.
Bianca
May 27th, 2011 at 8:30 am
You have NOTHING to say to this? Real DATA and REAL INFORMATION messing up with your narrative? Look at the your own sad reply…"inartuculate nonsense", "Serbs are true angels, all othes are devils", "heard similar stories from other eastern Eurpean nationalists", "fairy tales".
Obiously, YOU CANNOT DENY THE FACT I HAVE CLEARLY ESTABLISHED. It is well documented, and often discussed on CNN, even with then Secretary William Perry. William Perry now stands accused by you of spreading "stories of nationalists" and talking "nonsense". And then you pull the real bazooka of arguments! Everyone who does not agree with you must adhere to theory that "Serbs are true angels, all others are devils".
Yet, you are THE ONLY ONE on this site that is inpenetrable to the shades of grey, never doubting the saintleness of non-Serbs, or utter depravity of Serbs.
You made me laugh! I expected more of you, frankly. I guess you need time to read up on it, and THEN come up with a suitable manufaftured spin.
Bianca
May 27th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Yawn? Western Leftist has fallen asleep at the job! Reading articles on WWII revisionism — no wonder you fell asleep. Good you are not an air traffic controller — let's hope so.
Dude, my entire comment was about 1991-1995 and then 1999 Balkan Wars. It is clear that you need to READ MORE ABOUT THOSE WARS if you plan to do as much writing about them as you seem to do.
Nothing whatsoever to say about FACTS?
Bianca
May 27th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Swiss politician of dubious repute? Therefore, Carla Del Ponte was lying as well? Everybody is lying.
Do not get excited, and worry too much. Western powers will do a bit of bargaining over the organ-trafficking. And once they reach a deal, organ trafficking goes under the rug — and not for the first time. Hashim Thaci's criminal network is just as strong in New York, London and Washington, as it is in Kosovo, and is a great donor to the Democrats and Republicans alike. You cannot have that great money go to waste.
Bianca
May 27th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Western Leftist is practicing psychology. Most spin masters have the same affliction: they start beleiving in their own omnipotence. So, now, we are treated to a really sophisticated analysis of Serbian mind.
"You Serbs think you are somehow special ! "
"You are not living in reality, but in your delusions! "
"Your anger is coupled with the feeling of impotence! "
"You have been busted, busted, busted!!!"
"You are not amusing yourself, you are suffering!"
I would not miss this dude for the world! He can redefine reality to suit him, and then points his righteous finger at others — who must be living in delusions! No sir, he is the know-it-all master of all arts and sciences, nay, the master of whole known Universe!
Suvorov
May 27th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Don't flatter yourself, Lefty. I am not angered by laughing stock, I laugh at it. The impotent one here is you: calling "Kosova" a country will not make it one no matter how hard you try. It is precisely the people of your creed who indulge in illusions about some idyllic EU/North-Atlantic future that every nation somehow has to seek and embrace. I prefer to live in the real world, the world of facts which you so desperately avoid. For fact is a stubborn thing: it doesn't adhere to "progressive" ideology. Thus, even if you wish to see your "Kosova" as a post-modern haven and an example of tolerance, it nevertheless remains the criminal black hole of Europe and possibly the most intolerant place in the entire world. In other words, I will leave you to your fantasies.
Suvorov
May 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Bianca,
I would not consider him a master at anything, even spin. For him making those pointless generalizations about Serbs is just a way of avoiding factual discussion. But why is it that nowadays every weak-minded phony likes to posit himself as a vigilant guardian of everything Western?
Western Leftist
May 27th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Suvy, "tough-guy" internet warrior. Get yourself a life, for God's sake.
Or be a "tough guy" in real life. Anyone can type nonsense on the internet.
I live in the world of facts, which say that KosovA is not Serbia any more.
Suvorov
May 27th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Lefty the Internet Troll,
My real life is thousand times better than your distorted world of warped fantasies, and I can hardly imagine you being tougher than me in real life, my little cyber Van Damme.
Bianca
May 27th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Precisely, One can have some fun at this dude's juvenile version of an imperial clone, can one?
Bianca
May 27th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
YOU live in the world of facts!!!!
So far, not once did you argue anything factual. Just calling people names. And telling them to stop typing nonsense on the internet. Take your own advice.
Western Leftist
May 29th, 2011 at 5:15 am
So, I see, you ARE suffering, Suvy? Poor thing.
Suvorov
May 29th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
By all means do keep entertaining me. I am curious what country the next clown in line and his cohort of "thumb-pressers" will come from. Or are they really always the same?
Western Leftist
May 30th, 2011 at 6:04 am
Easy, easy, there are good psychiatrists for you.
Suvorov
May 30th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I can see where your obsession with psychiatry comes from: for you it may be a necessity. My only concern is that you are most certainly beyond help.
B..
May 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
This nazi animal who openly mocks the Serbian victims, denies and minimizes the crimes committed by his nazi and ustasha predecessors in WW2 against Serbs, celebrates the likes of Hashim Taci, etc. is no "Western" and no "Leftist" whatsoever. It's not that the "Western" or "Leftist" could be perceived as good or bad per se, it is just this nazi troll's effete attempt to appear more legitimate by posing as a hip Western progressive (ie. non-related to the Balkan issues, asnd therefore objective). Earlier on, he's been spewing his trash in this section camouflaged as a Bulgarian, Croat, Albanian… while using the same syntax and same hilarious "facts". Don't waste your time on this sad creature, contributors.
Suvorov
May 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
B..,
You want a bet on his next identity? I will place mine on a "Dutchman with a Czech grandmother".
Zed
May 31st, 2011 at 5:59 am
Perhaps Serbian extreme nationalism is bad but does this mean that extreme nationalism of other ethnic groups is good then?By condemning only Serbs, you boost their own nationalist extremism sky high. It is is kinda strange that you forget that in Bosnia there was also very bloody war between Croats and Bosniaks, that city of Mostar (third largest in Bosnia) was completely destroyed by Bosnian Croat army, at there was massive ethnic cleansing in Lasva valley by both Bosnian Croat and regular army of Croatia (proven by Hague tribunal as conflict between states). There were no Serbian forces present at these areas. Lets also forget the fact that Bosniaks in western Bosnia were allies of Bosnian Serbs, and that lot of them were massacred by Bosniak army loyal to Izetbegivic. What about these peculiarities? I don't think that childlike version of "Serbs vs everybody" is right one, although it is quite convenient for some. In Srebrenica only males were executed, while in Lasva valley women and children where executed as well. During Srebrenica, Bosnian Serbs were under sanctions of Serbia, and their state was never recognized by Serbian government.
You have mentioned Albanians, and how they try to assimilate "ideas of modern civilization". Then why they tried to attack republic of Macedonia in 2001? There were no "Serbian nationalists" there, and as I recall Macedonia is not part of Serbia. Why Serbs in "democratic Kosova" live in ghettos, and are constantly attacked and lynched, 10 years after the war? Why there are more Albanians in Kosovo after the "genocide" then before it. Why there are less Serbs in Kosovo after their "genocide" on Albanians then before? Compare this to Jews in Poland, or Armenians in Turkey, and see what real genocide is. But Serbs are Christians of european extraction, and represent symbol of christian and "traditionalist" nationalism (no matter how this symbolic image is false one, and media created) to many "Western leftists". And we know how "Western leftists" like Christian or traditionalist movements. Thus Serbs are ideological scarecrow for projecting "politically correct" racism for people who are self-described anti racists. It's very easy to be "expert" on anything in Google era, but these "experts" hardly know anything really. By the way, Ratko Mladic was Bosnian Serb, he lived in Bosnia and have nothing to do with Kosovo or with state of Serbia.
Serb Patriot
June 1st, 2011 at 12:08 am
You are right, B.
Nazis are truly disgusting. Historical research has been uncovering new evidence on the monstruous atrocities of ustashas in Jasenovac. Lately a particularly gruesome method of killing Serbs has come to the light of the day. Namely, many Serbs of all ages, perheps thousands of them, were force-fed with coconuts until they burst. Seriously!!! Can you imagine something more terrible? A group of Serbs were given coconuts to eat and they had to eat it at a gunpoint, whether they liked it or not. After some time they couldn't stand it any more, it was impossible for them to thrust it into their mouths, some got diarrhea in the process. But they had to swallow those coconuts until they choked. Outrageous!!! The world has to know more about that.
Suvorov
June 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm
… but who nevertheless visited both Belgrade and Pristina (such a natural thing for a Japanese fisherman to do) and preferred less wealthy but more honest Kosovars.
Bianca
June 1st, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Nebojsa's column has been followed by diverse American readership, as he has gained the reputation for knowledge and credibility.
For the sake of many readers of his column, it is important to counter the narcisoid self-adulatory commentators of Bill Clinton's era, the hallmark of nineties. The world has changed since. This time around, the political games in Hague are met with by far less enthusiasm and a great deal of scepticism.
Many thanks to ZED for a great review of issues. It is of a particular importance to emphasize the wartime alliance between Bosnian Serb forces and West Bosnian Moslems. Izetbegovic was killing Moslems as well as Serbs, as he unsucessfully tried to capture Bihac. Bihac was not overrun until the very end of war when Croatian forces were allowed to enter Bosnia to help Izetbegovic. Fikret Abdic from Bihac had more claims on the Presidency of Bosnia then Izetbegovic. This is why he is today political prisoner in Croatia. The narrative of "genocide' is absurd, as there was an voluntary alliance between two people — not imposed on them by the West — lasting the entire duration of the war between the Serbs and Moslems.
Almedin Lipjankic
June 11th, 2011 at 3:30 am
Its funny to see serbs cry on here like they are the victims, post nothing but nonsense and lies, and for some reason keep refering to Bosnians/Croats as Nazis, when they were the closest example of exactly that.
eric siverson
August 25th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
For your information I visted with one Abdics relalives , in Illionos a couple of yrs ago , I'am wondering when Fikret will be released . I thought they may just turn him over to the Bosnian muslims and they may just kill him . He must have already served 15 yrs now . That should make him under 80 yrs old . He must be dead or the Serbs ,Russians or even the Orthadox church would be reporting on his story .
eric siverson
August 25th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Will Serbia ever be forgiven for failing to prevent NAZI and NATO crimes ? Russia turned The NAZI's back the last time . Medvedev offered to straighten out NATO if they wanted to come to Georgia for a new lesson . Its only a matter of time before Serbs realize that Serbs did nothing wrong trying to protect the country of Yugoslavia .NATO NAZI its no difference to me , Serbia's only misstake was they tried to give their greedy minorities too much . . The Politicaly correct International community kept telling the world the powerfull Serbs were opressing their innocent minorities by not allowing them to have independence . And Serbia was accussed of creating a greater Serbia
eric siverson
August 25th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Lipjankic A former NAZI took over Croatia and sure enough another one led Bosnia What do you think we should call them NATZO's The Serbs should have fought harder and not given up the majority Serb areas in Croatia , Milosevic should have helped Babic more . But Russia was weak the German 's stronger than ever . It could not have happend now .