Earlier this week, the principal source of the hoax that served as the excuse for the 2003 invasion of Iraq was revealed. Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, a.k.a. "Curveball," was an Iraqi exile whose fanciful stories were collected by German intelligence and fed to the CIA, then used as justification for the war Bush the Lesser’s cabinet began planning immediately after 9/11. "Curveball" is now being thrown under the proverbial bus, but one can hardly blame him for telling the Empire what it wanted to hear. Make no mistake – Bush II wanted to take out Saddam Hussein, and in pursuit of that objective he’s used an array of varied and often contradictory excuses. The WMD hoax was just one of them; some may remember the insinuation that Hussein was linked to Al-Qaeda and 9/11, or the explanation that the bloody insurrection that followed was part of the grand strategy to "fight terrorists over there" instead of on U.S. soil. Perhaps the most cynical was the claim that violent "regime change" in Baghdad would cause a cascading spread of democracy in the region, given the Imperial reaction to recent events in Tunisia and Egypt.
The Iraq war was only possible because four years earlier, the Empire had successfully got away with a war of aggression based on lies, contradictory justifications and spurious excuses. Professional spin doctors had masterminded the propaganda battle, which was far more important than the actual war effort. The pattern was obvious to some in 2003, and still more in 2009. Yet the attack on Yugoslavia, under the guise of NATO, is still considered a crowning "success" of Empire’s foreign policy, and the self-proclaimed "nation" of Kosovo that emerged from that murderous lie is celebrated as proof of Empire’s benevolence.
Dismemberment
In the smokescreen of lies deployed to shroud the Kosovo War, it is hard to notice two principal differences between the UNSCR 1244, the fig leaf for NATO’s occupation of the Serbian province, and the Rambouillet ultimatum used by the Empire as a pretext for the assault. The Rambouillet document demanded of Yugoslavia to allow free access of NATO forces to all of its territory, and envisioned an independent, Albanian Kosovo within three years. Resolution 1244 emphatically guaranteed the sovereignty and integrity of Yugoslavia.
As with all other deals it ever made, the Empire paid lip service to provisions of 1244, but began to undermine Yugoslavia almost right away. In October 2000, it funded and organized a "democratic revolution" to overthrow the government of Slobodan Milosevic. Imperial agents have been part of every government since, to greater or lesser extent. By 2003, Yugoslavia was abolished in name, and in 2006, Washington and Brussels ensured that a crooked referendum in Montenegro gave their client, Milo Djukanovic, a majority necessary to declare independence. By the following year, NATO’s former envoy was named "mediator" of Kosovo status talks, and his proposal was predictably an independent Albanian state. When the Serbs protested, German ambassador to Belgrade warned them they would lose even more land if they didn’t knuckle under.
Empire’s principal client in Serbia, president Boris Tadic, was narrowly re-elected in January 2008. Only then did Washington green-light the "Assembly of Kosovo" to declare independence, on February 17, 2008.
Desperately Seeking Legitimacy
So far, the self-proclaimed "Republic of Kosovo" has been recognized by 75 governments. Between last summer’s logic-torturing verdict of the International Court of Justice and Belgrade’s complete capitulation at the UN in September, it seemed that its general acceptance was inevitable. Then came the report by a Swiss human rights envoy, in December 2010, describing Kosovo’s rulers a network of organized crime, murder, extortion, and trafficking in guns, narcotics, sex slaves and forcibly harvested organs.
Denials from the Kosovo Albanian leadership and their Imperial patrons focused not on refuting the charges, but attacking the messenger, accusing Senator Marty of seeking to "harm Kosovo’s image." This is an interesting Freudian slip. For what else does the self-proclaimed independent state have, except the image created by PR agencies and Imperial propaganda?
There is no "Kosovar" nation except in stories by Western news media; the Albanians in Kosovo consider themselves Albanian, and support unification with their ethnic kin in the region in what they term a "natural Albania." For years, they and their Imperial backers argued that independence was the only solution to widespread joblessness, poverty and lack of basic utilities (which somehow all functioned just fine before the occupation – yet another parallel with Iraq). Yet nothing has changed in three years since "independence." The only business flourishing in the self-proclaimed state seems to be organized crime.
Few seem to believe the legitimacy of the elections Hashim Thaci won just before the Marty report came out, so obvious and widespread was the fraud. Such is the confidence in the new Thaci-led government that some frustrated Albanians have actually called for the U.S. to install a protectorate, and administer the territory directly.
Meanwhile, the Empire has been laying the groundwork for getting rid of Thaci and replacing him with someone more loyal, who just happens to be at the forefront of the "natural Albania" movement. All in the name of "regional stability," no less.
Another Great Whitewash?
It bears repeating that every single excuse, justification and pretext offered by NATO for its unprovoked attack on then-Yugoslavia were eventually exposed as false. Meanwhile, actual atrocities by the KLA against the non-Albanian inhabitants of the province have been amply documented, and even took place right in front of NATO "peacekeepers." That even the 2004 pogrom was flipped around as the key argument in favor of an Albanian state in Kosovo demonstrates the determination of Empire to impose its fictional world upon actual reality, and the lamentable willingness of all too many to accept the imposition.
Now, however, that imposed fiction faces a threat unlike any before, in a credible report by a reputable international figure. For the Imperial fiction of "independent Kosovo" to survive, the Marty report must go away. This is why Washington is proposing that the allegations detailed in the report should be investigated by EULEX - the EU mission designated to aid the government of "independent" Kosovo. This is the same EULEX that released a convicted terrorist - who blew up a bus filled with Serb civilians in February 2001 and then "escaped" from Camp Bondsteel, the maximum security US military installation – and abandoned the investigation into the August 2003 shooting of Serb children. It isn’t hard to guess what the eventual outcome of an EULEX inquiry would be.
The real question is whether the Empire will have enough money, power and influence to pull off such a colossal whitewash. Yet this is no longer 1999, or 2003, or 2008, or even 2010, when a sycophantic and quisling regime in Belgrade snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in order to show loyalty to the Empire. That regime is now tottering, and the Empire itself isn’t looking too well.
Thus the saga of Kosovo continues.
Read more by Nebojsa Malic
- The Serbian Job – May 18th, 2012
- Tyranny of Good Intentions – May 3rd, 2012
- Between Hope and Despair – April 20th, 2012
- Hunger Games – March 29th, 2012
- Reality Rift – March 9th, 2012





theothercanada
February 18th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Boris Tadici is but the latest Quisling serving foreign interests, Kosovo and Metohiya problems didn't start with him. He is just the latest scumbag serving the Anglo Alliance of Terror.
In 1945 A-H Corporal forbade return of Serbians to Kosovo and Metohiya who were expelled by occupying Albanian and Mr. Adolf forces, Serbian Quislings at that time viciously murdered and terrorized thousands of Serbs brave enough to protest and stand up for their fellow Serbs.
It continued until Mr. Milosevic's speech at the Blackbird's Field.
Janullatus
February 18th, 2011 at 12:44 am
Wow, I didn't think it was possible to include that many lies in one article. :)
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 18th, 2011 at 1:58 am
Now, you may accuse the author to have bias.
But will you please enlighten us by enumerating and debunking his "lies"?
As a matter of fact, start with just one, we'll see after.
MvGuy
February 18th, 2011 at 7:01 am
"[to the CIA, then used as justification for the war Bush the Lesser’s cabinet began planning immediately after 9/11.]"
Naive at best, or perhaps just one more person blind to crimes that don't kill HIS people….. I have been reading Mr Malik for some time and find much of his work compelling.. but the Bush team was working on war with Iraq from day ONE….. See Paul O'Neil lay it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEZnL_VVHPc&fe…
So does Mr. Malik believe this bunk, or was it an insensitive oversight?? What about the Pentagon documents cited? What about the document that is shown in the video: "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts shown at 3:54 of the video.Dated March 5, 2001…??? It seems rather obvious that the Bush Cabal was selling the Iraqi oil and trading it for support for their coalition months before 911..
I will be watching to see if Mr. Malik continues to make untrue comments of unfathomable oversight [revisionist history] regarding the core events that have created the bizarro world of war…war…and DEBT reality we are forced to endure….!!
Terrance&Philip
February 18th, 2011 at 7:01 am
FTA: "The Rambouillet document demanded of Yugoslavia to allow free access of NATO forces to all of its territory,…"
This was the same demand made to Serbia by the Austro-Hungarian Empire to prevent war following the assassination of Franz Ferdinand in 1914. Every serious student of history recognized that NATO was making the same demand. NATO knew Milosevic could not and would not accept what they were asking, and the bloody old hag Albright years later admitted they'd knowingly used it to start the war.
MvGuy
February 18th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Vojkan, See Below:
Bruce Richardson
February 18th, 2011 at 7:13 am
Excellent article. One point however, "Bush the Lesser" did not plan war after 9/11, but before.
At a Afghanistan conference in Berlin during the summer of 2001, about 3-months prior to 9/11, Pakistan's Secretary, Niaz Niak was informed by U.S. officials that an attack on Afghanistan would commence "Before the snow flies in October." The Secretary opined that "regime change" was the motive of the U.S. At that time negotiations between the U.S. company UNOCAL and the Taliban had deteriorated with Bridas of Argentina coming out on top as the Taliban's choice for constructing the Trans-Afghan-Pipeline or TAP.
Spaniard
February 18th, 2011 at 7:19 am
This kind of babble about the "empire" is utter nonsense.
In fact, America saved Europe several times in 20ieth century. Firstly, in the First world war it made the victory over the Prussian expansionism and arrogance possible. Secondly, it delivered Europe from the Nazism during the second world war. Thirdly, USA prevented the spread of the Soviet Communism into the Western Europe. After the downfall of the so-called "eastern block" (which happened in no small extent through efforts of the American secret services) it received the countries formerly groaning under the Soviet yoke into the bosom of western alliance (NATO, EU). And the American engagement in Eastern Europe proves to be an impenetrable barrier for the encroachments of the Russian neo-imperialism into the formerly Soviet sphere of influence.
Fifthly, America ended the war in the Balkans by stopping the Serbian genocidal rampages there: first by disciplining the Serbian Republic in Bosnia in 1995, then by preventing the genocide in Kosovo and wresting that province from the control of the criminal Serbian regime. After that, America made freedom and independence of the Albanian Kosovar people possible.
Seventhly, America is leading struggle against islamist integrism, which endangers also Europe, not only America (in fact, it endangers Europe more, and I am speaking as western European).
Then again, America, while staunchly (and very concretely, with military aid) supporting the right of Israel to exist, also condemns and acts against Zionist extremists (Zionist fascism is no better than other forms of fascism, like islamist integrist fascism).
America defends the right of smaller nations to exist and helps them to defend themselves from their bullying neighbours (see: Bosnia, Kosovo, Israel, Eastern Timor). At the same time, the American presence (military in the first place, but not only) in Europe prevents the revival of Nazi-style xenophobia and racism in larger and smaller nations. America stands for the freedom of nations, but against the horrors of nationalism.
Finally, American wise and moderate policy, shunning all extremes and extremists, is also a check on the internal, American extremists. Here we are talking about radical Palaeoconservative isolationists, but also of blood-thristy Neocons who want everything and everyone to be bombed to import democracy (after the Iraq war, all neocon syrene calls for more war have been wisely ignored by Washington). Another type of extremists is the radical left, both in Europe and in America. This type of left is anti-western and anti-democratic, but America prevents its ugly head from rising again. White nationalists and racists are also being frustrated by the American official policy in their attempts to gain influence and power.
America is true Empire of the Middle. The empire of moderation. In this sense only can America be called an "empire". Not in the conventional, pejorative meaning of an "empire".
MichaelKenny
February 18th, 2011 at 9:06 am
If you look at the "Read more by" section, you'll see that these articles are being churned out mechanically roughly every two weeks. The same non-story is re-hashed over and over again. And it's the classic Israel Lobby propaganda line: the American Empire rules the world, Europe is in America's pocket, Europe's leaders are all American stooges who came to power in crooked elections rigged by the US, Muslims are inherently evil. And so on and so on. All part of the Israel Lobby's divide and conquer policy towards Europe. "Spaniard's" comment, probably written by an Israeli, falls into the same category.
Suvorov
February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am
This revelation about "Curveball" and the inevitable efforts to dismiss the illegal invasion as a mere "mistake based on faulty intelligence" reminds me of a similar effort in the "documentary" "Moral Combat" to blame NATO's entire criminal policy in 1999 on William Walker, who was exposed in the film as a liar. You see, of course NATO meant well as always , but unfortunately it was misled.
Suvorov
February 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Bruce Richardson,
"One point however, "Bush the Lesser" did not plan war after 9/11, but before."
Thank you, I was going to make that point.
bozh
February 18th, 2011 at 11:24 am
germans live in three countries: austria, germany, and switzerland. thus, albanians can live in two countries.
at this time we do not know whether nato wld allow kosovo to join albania. if nato and kosovars wld be for it one day, there wld be nothing serb can do about it except wage war to prevent the reunion of albanian lands in their possession for ca 2.k yrs.
it shld be noted that serbs selves '91-95 had waged wars for two knew serbias. they just bit off more than they cld swallow. this also happened to hitler: appetite was there, but reality was not there! tnx
bozh
February 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am
we gotta give up on the notion that aggression against iraq was based on lies. it matters not an iota whether u.s. based that aggression on american truth, truth1, if u will, or lies, the invasion self was a criminal act.
collectively punishing mns of people [in iraq almost all of them] is a wrong thing to do regardless of alleged or actual crimes committed by their leaders.
let's face one fact: there is no law, agreement, etc., personal [or even ethnic-religious] supremacists have not broken to date when it suited them to do so; thus, in such madness, lawlessness, greed for other peoples' resources, all complaining about it is useless.
such people speak only one language: power and their godly right to do whatever they want to do; which is wage wars, own, torture, jail, overtax people. tnx
bozh
February 18th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
no, austria only demanded that also its agents r in on hunt for the members of Black Hand. serbia refused to allow austrian agents on their soil.
i do not think a country wld be that stupid [nato aside- it not being a country anyway] wld demand it invades al land militarily just to hunt or ban a terrorist organization!
best way to hunt for terrorists is by bribing, issuing price on their heads, and using terrorists! tnx
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 18th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
First, I wouldn't say that Mr Malic is blind to the "crimes that don't kill HIS people". I think his opposition to American Imperialism is rather obvious whether in the former Yugoslavia or in the Middle East.
Second, I wouldn't characterise as a lie the sentence you quoted. I don't think it is unreasonable to suspect that plans for invading Irak existed even prior to the Bush administration. Maybe, saying that the Bush cabinet started realising the plan immediately after 9/11 would have been more accurate. But I still wouldn't call that sentence a lie.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Btw, I also find justifying the war by having naively believed al-Janabi's lies rather insulting for common sense. After all, you don't trust an obviously unreliable source unless you really want to.
Nebojsa Malic
February 18th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
What I had in mind when I wrote that sentence was a report I recall about Cheney and Rumsfeld meeting after 9/11 and talking about how they could use this as a pretext for attacking Iraq. Being as it is from 2003, I wasn't able to readily find a reference to it in my archives, and it was sufficiently minor a point (in case anyone missed it, I was talking about Iraq as a lead-in to talking about Kosovo) that I decided to dwell on it no further.
Either way, I don't see how it makes the slightest bit of difference whether the Emperor's cabinet (notice I said "cabinet" in the original) began planning a war with Iraq in November 2000 or in September 2001, given that 9/11 was merely used as a pretext anyway. I would hardly call it "untrue comments of unfathomable oversight" (you, sir, have the gift of hyperbole; don't squander it).
Also, the name is Malich. With a "ch." Not my fault U.S. Immigration officials can't read Cyrillic. And if you've followed my writing, as you claim, you'd surely recall an article in which I explained just that…
Nigel
February 18th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Repeating the same nonsense over and over again will not make it the truth.
Nebojsa Malic, I am waiting for an article that is not about the Serbs and how they have
been victimised.
3oka
February 18th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Nigel don't worry, you know all you need to know… you're da man.
Now before you smile please get your teeth fixed.
Cheers!
PS
Nebojsa, brilliant as usual.
theothercanada
February 18th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Tune in to CNN, BBC and the other propaganda tools utilized by the Anglo-Israeli Alliance of Terror.
You are welcome.
Nigel
February 18th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
LOL …..you must psychic…..
Bad teeth ……..LOL
Niko
February 18th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
You seem to forget the main premise: Serbia was bombed not because America hates Serbian accent or Serbian food, but because it was committing genocide on its own citizens on Kosovo, after it had already done that in Bosnia.
Had it not been for the genocide, Kosovo would most likely still be part of Serbia and the author would not need to portray every western country today like the evil empire that hates Serbia.
Isn't that the biggest lies of all, the very premise of this article?
bozh
February 18th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
i made a mistake when i said that albanians or people other than slavs had lived in the balkans and also kosovo for 2 k yrs. it is more like 3.5k + yrs ago.
kosovo had been serb on a few occasions; however, only via conquest.
according to noel malcolm, a british historian, nato struck serbia in order to save macedonia.
nato feared another massive ethnic expulsion in kosovo. some of the expelled people wld have chosen macedonia; others wld have gone to west or even albania.
macedonia already had a large minority of hated albanians [ca, 30% of the pop]. with another 200k to one mn albanians coming to macedonia nobody cld predict what wld happened there; probably nothing good.
it does not take much acumen to come to a conclusion that serbia cld have ruled kosovo only by expelling up to 1, 500.000 albanians.
milosevic and his govt had not, i think, expected nato intervention when it–according to reporters stationed in kosovo '99– expelled ca. one mn albanians.
since expulsion of bosniaks worked brilliantly for serbs from '92 to 95, they naturally thought they cld be also successful in sam eway in kosovo.
i recall writing in '98 or later to lloyd axworthy, the canadian FM, about possible massive expulsion of albanians.
he replied [cand'n govt always does reply or acknowledge reception of mail] that nato is aware of just that.
i had been much surprised when nato attacked belgrad and serb army in kosovo. i did not expect it at all.
i felt sorry for innocent serbs who were killed in that attack, but glad that serb army was defeated or left kosovo or whatever. tnx
eric siverson
February 18th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Sorry Niko ther was no genocide in Kosovo . Before the Illegal NATO bombing only a little over 2200 people had been killed in Kosovo . True most of them were Albanians , and again most of the Albanians killed before the war were killed by other Albanians . The KLA terrorists killed more Albanians than Serbs . But NATO killed a lot of Albanians themselves , with thier bombing . The war was based on lies Albanian muslim and NATO lies . Our U.S. president estimated the number of missing young muslim boys at a 100,000 before NATO bombed Kosovo and Serbia harder with more tonnage of explosives than the allies bombed Germany in ww2 . Of course this bombing did not hurt anybody according to all the Albanians testifiying in court ..
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 18th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
The genocide in Kosovo story has been debunked so many times before that hearing it shamelessly repeated again and again has become simply boring. Even the ICTY has indicted no one on that count.
As for Bosnia, genocide was proclaimed only in Srebrenica, and it took a long stretch of its definition in order to do it.
Serbian genocides = Iraqi WMD. Plain and simple.
eric siverson
February 18th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Evrey Western country that did bomb Serbia are part of a very evil empire that thinks we are all as missinformed as you are . One Spanish pilot noticed from high altitude that some thing was wrong so he dipped down to take a closer look . Only civilans driving tractors with people heading inward in Kosovo . He was ordered to drop his bombs any way . This Spainard refused his orders . After The 79 day bombing a little over 10,000 people were reported missing or killed in the Kosovo war .. If there was genocide in Serbia my friend the genocide was cuased by NATO
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 18th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
One more thing, this will be my last reply to anyone here deploying arguments without facts on a level of which an average high school student would be ashamed of.
Repeating a lie over and over again will never make it a truth. In spite of Oswald Spengler's assertion, lies can overpower truth during a period of time but they can never outlive it.
Americans attacked Serbia for the exact same reason Germany attacked Yugoslavia in WWII. They wanted something that Serbia didn't want to give them and that Croats and Kosovo Albanians were all too eager to give them in exchange for independence.
eric siverson
February 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
NATO bombs hit more hospitals than tanks . By the way knowingly bombing civilans on tractors or trains are war crimes . So is bombing bridges and embasseies . The world was right there were plenty of war criminals in the Yugoslavia war . But it wasn't the people that were tried . Thats why the ICITY court promised not to look for NATO crimes . As a matter of fact the war ended under resolution 1244 and Kosovo was to be part of Serbia still . But Serbia maybe would have evicted camp Bondsteal , so more changes were made .
eric siverson
February 18th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Many troops and pilots refused thier orders in the war in Kosovo . Many of these orders were illegal criminal orders . I know of no NATO commanders that issued illegal orders being tried or even questioned about these illegal orders .
eric siverson
February 18th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I did not know she admitted starting the war . I know when she was tod the Serbs could not have fired this shell but rather the Albanians had most likely shot there own people themselves . She said why would they do that ? and ordered U.S. planes to bomb the Serbs . So I'am extreamly suprized she would admitt to starting the war .
eric siverson
February 18th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
This makes sense after Bush senior failed to topple saddam , the whole country was a little disscusted Saddam was still in power . I suppose the lesser Bush may have been too . Now I'am not so sure Senior Bush was wrong . Saddam run a lot better goverenment for more Iraqis than what we have thier now . especially for Christians and other minorities .
bozh
February 19th, 2011 at 9:12 am
according to historians slavs were invited by byzantium [e.roman empire] to settle balkans. but not all of it.
croats were allowed to settle bosnia or parts of it and all of present day croatia in the 7th c.; exception being the dalmatian walled towns.
it belonged, possibly as late as 11th c., to byzantium.
serbs had settled areas under danube and n. of kosovo. kosovo, like dalmatian towns, belonged to byzantium.
kosovo had been conquered by serbs in the 12th c. serbs ruled it for ca. 250. serb churches date from that period of time.
after ottoman conquest of greece, bulgaria, albania, and serbia, kosovo was ruled by ottomans for 5c.s
serbia once again reconquered kosovo in 1912.
this historical record, if even largely or partially true, shows that kosovo had not been cradle of serb nation.
and nobody honors any occupation or own defeat. slavs [sorry to say some croats also look dwn on albanians] hate albanians for no other reason than that they wld not recognize serb 'right' to hate and govern them for an eternity.
we had all heard heard serb lament that their neighbors hate them only because they r serbs. it is actually the other way around. they hate-fear croats et al for the same reason they hate kosovars.
they knew or shd have known that they cld never ever wrest a piece of croatia let alone half of it claimed by serbs as their 'holy' land.
thus, much of serb leadership turned to deceiving own peasants as to whenwhyhow serbs came to bosnia, kosovo, croatia, and macedonia.
communists had granted kosovo and voivodina an autonomy that, i think, had been wider than what s. tyrolians have even today. both autonomies were annuled by serbia in late 80s.
from that time kosovo had been invaded by serbia and a police state set up.
if that did not represent a casus belli, i don't know what else cld serbs do to provoke military response by kosovars. tnx
Hrebeljanovic
February 19th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Not just the teeth. LOL.
Your whole Empire is rotten as well. LOL.
Hrebeljanovic
February 19th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Is this what they teach in Spain's Middle Schools? Really disappointing.
Hrebeljanovic
February 19th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
You and the "Spaniard" would make a great couple.
I suggest you exchange e mails. It would be great for everybody.
eric siverson
February 19th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Spainard that was nice things you wrote about the U.S. NATO empire . I'am sure the U.S .empire will agree with you becuase that is the image they wish to put across . Your view of NATO is the same as what the mainstream media has been saying all the time . However I learned during Milosevics trail there was another story . Milosevic used almost exclusively western wittnesses that were at the sciene . German and Canadian Generals . actual documents of orders . Milosevic bested the prosecution almost evrey day , The prosecution had not before his death won a single point . Mr Nice the prosecuter had even said he was no longer trying convict Millosevic of running a criminal entereprize . Milosevic had turned the table on the court . He would have been having the most fun of his life , If he had not been so sick . That itself could be another story .
eric siverson
February 19th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Spain was also part of NATO , Although I found the Spanards a little more honest and sympathetic to the Serbs . I mentioned the Spainish pilot that refused his orders . NATO was a lot more like the nazis than anyone else in the war . As a matter of fact both Bosnia and Croatia installed Nazi leaders , becuase they are nazis . The biggest differance between NATO in 1999 and NAZIs in the 1940s is NATO told more lies and has much better prapaganda machinery .
Nigel
February 20th, 2011 at 1:36 am
At least we had an Empire. What is the history of the Serbs ?
As usual, Serbs always manage to grab defeat from Jaws of victory.
Keep dreaming, Kosovo and Bosnia are gone. Talk is cheap and if you have
courage, a big if, fight for what you believe.
Spaniard
February 20th, 2011 at 3:02 am
If Croatia had a "Nazi" leader, Serbia had an ever more "Nazi" leader, because both were rabid nationalists who in the name of their respective nationalist populist ideologies committed atrocities. Only that the body count of Milosevic's regime is bigger. Tudjman and Milosevic – and their regimes – were twin brothers, creating instability in the Balkans. They personally – and their envoys – met many times to amicably discuss various topics and prepare new mayhem in the Balkans, while keeping their respective peoples in nationalist frenzy and hatred of the neighbouring country. Even the way their families enriched themselves at the detriment of the public money is remarkably similar. Both were – thankfully – deposed in 2000, when peoples of those two countries decided they had it enough of nationalist demagoguery and authoritarianism coupled with nepotism of the leaders.
As for Bosnia, it was exposed to double aggression: from Serbia and Croatia. Izetbegovic was not perfect, but was the least evil of the Balkan leaders. America did well to support the unity of Bosnia.
Regarding Spain, what we are having here is some weird alliance between old-school Francoist fascism (well disguised, of course) and anti-Western left. The both components of this strange alliance oppose the right of Kosovars to independent state, each of them for their own reasons.
Nash
February 20th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Niko, watching too much main stream media certainly left irreparable damage to your reasoning ability.
3oka
February 20th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Noel Malcolm… OMG!
Bozh can you give us couple of more names just to make sure Noel Malcolm is right? Couple of historians from reputable institutions such as famous University of Zagreb or Pristina?
They are the most respected ones in the world these days.
Nebojsa
February 20th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Nebojsa, I hope and pray that Ron Paul is reading your articles on Anti_War.com. Just keep doing a great job!
bozh
February 20th, 2011 at 11:20 am
actually, i do not ever hang my hat on any old historic record. it does not matter to me even if serbs had– by invitation or no invitation] also settled kosovo in 7th c., regardless whether it had been empty.
i do not know what croat'n historians say about kosovo. as far as i know, they say little or nothing about that part of the world.
history, particularly up to 19th c., shld be looked on as mystory; especially when it comes to using warfare to redraw borders or to expel a population of another folk or religious group.
warfare creates new facts on the ground, both the chetniks and croat'n fascists-ustashe knew that. so did 'jews'.
'jews' have succeeded; croats and serbs had not in bosnia. and there were causes for it!
a widest possible look [the wider the look, the wiser one is] wld have revealed much risk or even a catastrophic consequences] undertaking wars to dismember bosnia.
however, serbia and croatia in '92 were run on hate-anger-revenge-greed only! wrong thing to do! tnx
Hrebeljanovic
February 20th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Ignoramus, educate yourself before you open your big mouth. Serbia had an Empire long before you had yours.
Under the UN Resolution 1244 Kosovo is part of Serbia and there is nothing you can do about it.
Alban
February 20th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Children of Lies !
What an article! Mr.Malic, back to his extreme and criminal serb propaganda lies AGAIN!
What are lies, Mr.Malic?
Was Miloshevic a lie? How about Arkan, Mlladic, Karadgic et co. are they a lie? Was Srebrenica a lie? How about dozens of mass graves all over Serbia, Bosnia, Kosova, discovered by Serbs themselves, not less, a lie? Over a million forcefully ex-pulsed Albanians, a lie? Thousands of homes burned is a lie? Hundreds of thousands of Kosovars Albanians killed dead is also a lie? Over 20 thousand Albanians still missing and nowhere to be found a lie?
Let me remind you some truths, Mr.Malic:
1) Kosova is FINALLY free of Serb criminals!
2) Serb paramilitaries will never be allowed to kill innocent Albanians again.
3) Kosova is celebrating the 3rd anniversary of its OWN Republic!
4) Many Serbs are indeed ashamed of what some of their compatriots did to other human beings, and are trying to mend fences and build bridges with their fellow neighbors, Albanians included, unlike you and some of your followers here in this forum!
5) Albanians are looking forward to put the past behind, build their country from the distraction of war, and better relations with other nationalities in Kosova.
6) Your writings in this forum continues to spread HATE! Stop you hate-mongering articles!
7) Allowing these articles from Mr. Malic to find a home here, Antiwar is becoming a pro-war and pro-hate information portal! Change your website name to anti-peace or pro-hate, it suits you better!
Nick
February 20th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Hitler's Germany and tehpolitical and military brass were tried after the war. The only indictment was "INSTIGATING UNPROVOKED WAR". How many unprovoked wars your country did?
And about the truth, one will not know it unless he stops using the grey matter of his brain, and thinks using the white matter. Mabye you should try it, it is worth….otherwise you will stay a puppet on a string
Nick
February 20th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Your empire was build on a slavery, genocide , theft of land using nuclear weapons against population . You must be proud that you still have colour segragation in US. You must also be proud of various wars that US creates around the world. But remember what Hitler said to his generals before he died:__we will have to leave the supremacy of the world to ……THE GREAT NATIONS FROM THE FAR EAST , THAT ARE ABOUT TO RISE……__
Nick
February 20th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Kosova???? It is ORGANIC kosova, as it was buildt on organ traffiking. All kosovars should be named MENGELE. The spirit of NAZIS is continuing….By the way why there are problems wherever albanians are? They are the intollerant and non civilised. Do you rememner the first sentence of the high ranking canadian general who was in kosovo, the first days after the bombing? He said : WE BOMBED THE WRONG SIDE… He was replaced as the truth was very inconveniant to be spoken …..
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 20th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Uh no, you are wrong again. Croats will never have enough of nationalism as long as there is a single Serb on planet Earth. The proof, except for bozh, but he is a specimen of his own, you'll never see any of the Croats, Albanians, Bosnian Muslims commenting here, comment on any other column on Antiwar.
This column is a thorn in their eyes and they don't give a darn f^ck about the rest of the world. And they don't give a darn f^ck to be allied with the devil as long as he is against Serbs. They're convinced that they are the God's gift to Humankind.
As for us Serbs, speaking in only my own name, but I dare say that it is a behaviour common to the vast majority of my brethren, I don't go visit Croatian sites, I don't leave comments on Croatian written columns, in short, I can live without them.
As a Spaniard, you'd better avoid commenting on the former Yugoslavia, because your kin helped Ustasha criminals escape to South America. The Ustasha that have killed hundreds of thousands in Jasenovac only.
And for your general culture, Kosovar is a neologism coined to legitimise an illegitimate claim by an an immigrant population on land belonging to someone else. Kosovo is a purely Serbian word. It is derived from Kosovo Polje, the "Field of the Blackbird", kos meaning blackbird in Serbian. Kosovar is a Frankenstein word, a purely Serbian word distorted with an Albanian suffix. Fyi, all the toponymy in Kosovo is Serbian with the exception of one town with two different names Ferizaj/Uroševac, but then they could hardly devise an Albanian variant to name a town owing its appellation to a Serbian king.
For the Albanians, it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardania.
So please, get educated before you comment.
Nigel
February 20th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
UN resolution……Ha ha ha …
Who do you think owns the UN ?
BTW, where is Milosevic and what is the fate of Karadzic ?
Nebojsa
February 20th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Two thumbs up for your comment!!!! Albanians are primitive as amoebas!!
Alban
February 21st, 2011 at 3:59 am
Do you see Mr. Malic what your articles breed???? Read the above two comments!
Primitive racism against a whole population, not unlike some of their compatriots that committed some of the worst crimes against civilians since the 2nd world war.
Denial and racism characterize some of the worst elements of serb nationalism, and people like you Mr.Malic, simply draw them further into their criminal delusion.
What kind of bubble (or cave) are you living in Mr. Malic? How much more distorted can your reality bubble be to satisfy your paranoia and appetite for war and hate mongering? How much longer is your sick mind going to continue to incite conflict, hate, and racism?
Last but not least, when are you finally going to visit a doctor, Mr.Malic? Psychiatry as a field has known many new development in the recent decades. There might be hope even for terminal cases like you and your followers!
STOP RACISM, HATE AND WAR MONGERING !!!!!!
Alban
February 21st, 2011 at 4:35 am
The truth about Kosovo
The attention of world diplomacy is focusing on Kosovo ever more. We have now in the hands of UN Security Council a proposal addressed by former Finish President Martti Ahtisari which is attached to the document that sets the framework for a possible future status of Kosovo, has summarized the guarantees for the position of minorities, and in particular the Serbian minority has described the modalities for the relatively emphasized international presence in Kosovo, with executive authority as well as authority to interpret its mandate, even after the decision for the new status, which limits Kosovo’s eventual sovereignty. Now it is on the members of the Security Council to reach a decision on Kosovo’s future.
We are aware that Serbia has undertaken a diplomatic offensive to influence the members of the Security Council of UN in order to unable the adoption of a new resolution, with the justification that Ahtisari’s proposal recommends “annexation of Serbia’s territory” and “removal of Serbia’s sovereignty over Kosovo” and that all of this, according to Belgrade officials, “is in contradiction with international law”. This is the reason why, in an effort to inform your readers and the members of the Security Council, I will highlight in broad lines a number of historic, political and legal arguments and facts that convincingly speak that Kosovo was occupied by Serbia in an unlawful manner, which is why Albanians, as a majority population in Kosovo, should enjoy the right to self-determination, whether that is as a majority population in an individualized territory or as their national right. By proving this truth, this article aims to, at the same time, prove that Serbia’s projects for the creation of two entities in Kosovo or its partition are unacceptable.
Firstly, given that Kosovo was annexed by Serbia in an unlawful manner Kosovo’s independence will in no way be in contradiction with international law. On the contrary, Kosovo independence even before being qualified as a “classic case of secession from a sovereign state”, as Serbs argue, should be considered as “annulment of an unlawful annexation. In fact it was Serbia that acted in contradiction with international law in 1912 when it annexed Kosovo through military occupation after its aggression against the Ottoman Empire, “even though Kosovo had its historic and ethnic identity, accompanied by its right to liberation, whether that was from the Ottoman occupation (1912) or Fascist occupation (1944), and in spite of its geographical demographic and cultural integrity”. Consequently, instead of admitting its unlawful act, which she committed while violating international law in a bold manner, Serbia is now using an argument which is scientifically and historically unsustainable, namely to “preserve its sovereignty over Kosovo”, which, as proved by facts, she held in an unlawful manner for a long period of time without ever asking the majority population of Kosovo or having their consent. Kosovo was occupied during Balkan wars (1912-1913)" in contradiction with the aspiration of the Albanians, expressed during their national liberation movement 1878-1912". In this manner Serbia, in spite of getting the “international legitimacy” for the occupation of Kosovo, in no way was able to justify the legitimacy of its act. In addition to this, Serbian possessive attitudes towards Kosovo which refer to history are unfounded. Firstly "they are unfounded in its methodological qualification of the national character of a territory because if history is to be taken as a criteria, in light of contemporary national-territorial realities, Hungary has the right to the Panonic part of Yugoslavia, Bulgaria and Hungary would argue about their rights over Belgrade, Greece would claim a right over Istanbul, Albania over Janina, Mexico over Florida and California, Sweden over Finland and Norway, Germany over Shlezi and Sudet regions, Denmark over Shlezivik, Iraq over Kuwait etc".
Alban
February 21st, 2011 at 4:36 am
Secondly, Serbia’s possessive attitudes towards Kosovo are unfounded in the aspect of material truth, since Kosovo, in spite of allegations of such nature “in neither a cradle of Serbian nation, nor of Serbian state”. Finally, imperialistic ambitions with “historic rights” could not be defended by England, France, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, which, as it is known “with centuries held many nations under their occupation. Therefore “with the destruction of colonial empires over 120 new states were created”. Serbia was “under the occupation of Ottoman Empire for over five centuries (1389-1878)". Spain “had conquered all Latin America in the beginning of XVI century". Neither do “Russians ever mention their historic rights over Ukraine”. Historic arguments speak very clearly that “Serbs were placed in Kosovo with their expansion under the rule of Nemanjics’”. As a result of occupations during the Ottoman Empire, many ethnic minorities, such as Serbs, Turks and Roma, were placed in the ethnic Albanian territories. The Serbian minority was greatly expanded with "the violent colonization that occurred between two world wars; nevertheless their percentage never exceeded 10% of the overall population". On the basis of these facts the conclusion is very clear: it was in deed the Serbian aggression, occupation and annexation of Kosovo that violated the international law and not otherwise, namely that Kosovo independence "would violate international law". History "is a witness of denationalization policies; of gross crimes against Albanians during 1912-1918; for genocidal Serbian plans for the extermination of Albanians; for the deportation of Albanians in Turkey and for confiscation the lands of the population and its colonization with Serbs and Montenegrins". The time period between February 1998 and June 10, 1999 only exceeded "these special cases and took the gravity of a general genocide of the Serbian regime against Albanians".
Alban
February 21st, 2011 at 4:37 am
The decision for Kosovo’s future cannot ignore the constitutional position of Kosovo in former Yugoslavia although Kosovo did not enjoy the status of a republic. However, most importantly, Kosovo was a constitute part of former Yugoslavia with a defined territory and borders, which could not be changed without its consent. Kosovo was directly represented in the former Yugoslav federation same as the other republics, not through Serbia because we would create a paradox as in that case Serbia "would have three votes in the Federation, while the other units would have only one vote". With its political-territorial identities, its constitution, Kosovo was a federally constitute unit of the multinational federation of Yugoslavia.
That Kosovo was not part of Serbia can be proven by the following historical and political facts:" Kosovo was not part of the independent sovereign state of Serbia with its international personality recognized in the Berlin Congress (1878); Kosovo was not part of Serbia in the Second AVNOJ Congress (1943); Kosovo was not part of Serbia during its establishment as a federal unit in the Anti-Fascist Popular Liberation Council (1944); Kosovo was not part of Serbia in the structure of Constitutional Assembly of Yugoslavia when the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was founded (1945). Kosovo was not included in the sovereign Serbia, except in federal Serbia within federal Yugoslavia, during the military occupation of Kosovo (1945)". Finally it is worth mentioning that the abolishment of Kosovo’s autonomy with the amendments in the Constitution of Serbia, an act, which occurred on March 28 1989, was done in an unlawful manner. Even if we didn’t have the essential deficiencies regarding the declaration in the Kosovo Assembly, deficiencies that are proven, “lack of free will”, as a result of extraordinary political pressures, "makes the declaration for constitutional amendments unconstitutional".
Alban
February 21st, 2011 at 4:37 am
Thirdly, the future of Kosovo cannot be compared with secessions in some other parts of the world. The states that remain reserved towards Kosovo independence should be mindful of this fact. They should instead look and find the “common ground” between Kosovo and certain other countries of the world, which have agreed to the removal of sovereignty over other territories. In this regard, the relations between Kosovo and Serbia are comparable with the relations of Indonesia and East Timor. As it is well known, East Timor was occupied and annexed by Indonesia in 1975, "contrary to the will of Portugal as the external sovereign", a fact which makes the annexation of Indonesia unlawful. In 1988 Indonesian government recognized the right to self-determination to the East Timor people. Singapore is another example that should be taken under consideration. This country was partitioned from Malaysia in 1965. The example of Eritrea is also meaningful for Kosovo. It was the Ethiopian government that recognized the right to self-determination to Eritrea in 1991. The case of Kosovo is also similar to the case of Namibia. Partition of Namibia from South Africa and its independence occurred in 1991. Therefore Kosovo’s independence should not be compared with secession of territories that were "not annexed in a unilateral manner (against the will of the people of the original sovereigns), which joined existing states but that they are operating in territories that were part of these states at the time when they were established". In this way even the separatist movements in Transdnjestrovle (Moldavia), in Southern Osetia and Abkhazia (Georgia) that do not have the ethnic basis that Kosovo has and which didn’t have an autonomous or federal status at the time of dissolution of former Soviet Union as Kosovo had at the time of dissolution of former Yugoslavia. Finally, Kosovo Albanians are not comparable with Catalonians, Scots, Wellsians, Basks or Corsicans… because they did not face a massive deportation from the states, which controlled them.
Fourthly, the existence of Albania as an Albanian state cannot hinder the independence and sovereignty for Kosovo, because as we can recall from history neither did the status of Romania "hinder the independence of Moldavia nor did the existence of France hindered the establishment of the canton-state of Switzerland". Finally, "even if Kosovo was constituted as an Albanian state in the Balkans, this would be a handicap rather than an advantage of Albanian population in the Balkans". Consequently Kosovo fulfills all the criteria for being an independent and sovereign state. If it is about the size of the territory, 34 states with smaller territory are members of the UN. If it is about the population, 58 states with a smaller number of population are members of the UN. If it is for the acceptance or not of new states in the UN, it should be noted that between 1990 and 2002, UN has accepted 34 new member states. The proverb that “wherever we have facts, words become unnecessary” is not meaningless.
On the basis of these arguments and facts emphasized, in broad lines, the new political legal and international status of Kosovo should be the equivalent, without any doubt, with independence and sovereignty with internationally recognized personality in all of its territory, in the manner to ensure the consistent enforcement of law, including the northern part of Kosovo and the so-called municipalities with Serbian majority, which in the proposal of Ambassador Martti Ahtisari have gained significant competencies in the name of an asymmetric territorial and ethnic based decentralization, which in spite of its well intentions threatens the future of Kosovo. Serbian claims for the creation of two entities or for partitioning of Kosovo are unacceptable for Kosovo. These claims "ignore the fact of expressively different demographic and national quantum and proportions". In the end we would like to emphasize the fact that Kosovo "is not an ethnically diversifiable territory of an enclave character". Therefore "the violent surrounding of one part of Kosovo’s territory", in spite of painful compromises that Kosovo delegation agreed to with decentralization, protective zones around Serbian heritage sites and favorable legislative procedures for minorities would directly contradict the derivative political entity of that territory and would not be in accordance with it.
It is about time that Kosovo gets out from the “closed circle” in which it was for so many years. Kosovo is awaiting a new resolution from the Security Council of UN, which should be characterized from:
Firstly, political, legal and international clarity regarding the status of Kosovo, which would prevent ambiguity in regard to it.
Secondly, full international personality which would enable Kosovo to seek membership in international mechanisms, including UN.
Thirdly, territorial integrity, which would ensure the extension of Kosovo governing institutions and consistent enforcement of the law in its entire territory.
Fourthly, functional state of Kosovo, which would prevent its possible invalidation.
Spaniard
February 21st, 2011 at 5:03 am
"As a Spaniard, you'd better avoid commenting on the former Yugoslavia, because your kin helped Ustasha criminals escape to South America. The Ustasha that have killed hundreds of thousands in Jasenovac only."
I don't buy into such atavistic and archaic nonsense about "kin" and the like. This Balkanic nonsense about "your kin did this to my kin etc" is source of much trouble in that area and is absolutely unacceptable in the frame of modern European civilization. I am speaking as an individual, in the name of universal values, and I am not spokesperson for some "kin" of mine. Such primitive appeals to what my supposed "kin" might have done to conceal ustasha (or any other) criminals won't stop me from commenting on human rights, nationalism and war crimes. These are the things that affect the whole Europe (because Balkans are Europe, geographically at least, whether we like it or not) and I, as European, am concerned. Similar atavistic nonsense can be heard from other people from the Balkans too, not only from Serbs (Croats, Bulgarians, Albanians, Greeks etc are hardly better in that respect).
Modern nations are hardly defined according to notions of "kinship" anyway. Your discourse has no wider acceptance outside of Balkans.
bozh
February 21st, 2011 at 7:19 am
generally speaking, i think we do not have to honor any conquest for any length of time: ages or an eternity.
serb leadership, i assume, is aware of this dictum; thus, it asserts that kosovo since 7th c. was always theirs.
int'l community might avoid looking into this claim and decide so: serbia had been populated by kelts, goths, cimmerians, thracians, illyrians, et al but is now and had been populated by serbs for 1300+ yrs.
so, it belongs to serbs!
serbia does not belong to descendants of illyrians. most historians assert that the albanians descended from illyrians.
kosovo is now 90% albanian; thus, u.n. will most likely decide that kosovo belongs to them!
as i have said before, personal, ethnic, and religious supremacism is the greatest evil that befell human race.
even where such thinking succeeds; notably in u.s., it still a wrong thing to do. such thinking succeeded and endured for a long time in u.k., italy, france, tsarist russia; however, eventually failed.
for serbs, failure was quick. it took them a mere c. to lose what they had: indirect control of bosnia, croatia, macedonia; and direct control of kosovo and possibly vojvodina.
the cause is always one: supremacism. mostly ethnic and religious and some personal as well.
of course, i know of no nation that does not exhibit all there kinds of supremacism.
since serb leadership saw that serbia cld not conquer croatia and bosnia unless it whips up hatred for and anger against croats and bosniaks, that was the path chosen from 19th c.
in add'n, serb great past had to be also evoked. but also great perils unless serbs take care of their enemies.
serb leadership knew that wld lead to bloodshed. they knew or shld have known that croats and bosniaks wld act more or less as they had against serb extremists in their midsts.
and that also wld be used to create a greater serbia.
unfortunately, croat'n communists had not seen this or was nevertheless unable to do anything about it. by the time they saw writing on the wall, yugoslav army became serb chetnik army and yugoslav presidium became a serb presidium.
serbia had four votes in that presidium while other republics had one each. this fact may be used against serbia, because it actually recognized in '90 kosovo and vojvodina as constituent republics. tnx
Uzun Mirko
February 21st, 2011 at 10:20 am
Do not insult and underestimate the vast advantages that amoebas have over the Albanians.
Uzun
February 21st, 2011 at 10:24 am
This is by far the best reply. Imagine the SS Skanderbeg posting a proclamation that
"We shall protect the Jews – as long as they come with us for a train ride into a specially designated Hebrew zone called Auschwitz-Birkenau"
Or getting Count Dracula to be the chief of the blood transfusion clinic?
This is the best comment by far – Albanian terrorists, baby killers, church burner, organ traffickers, heroin suppliers, human traffickers – ask and promote justice (or JUST US)
Who do you think you're kidding?
Uzun
February 21st, 2011 at 10:27 am
Alban is the new king of comedy. Gave me the biggest laugh in a long time. I love how the lack of logic and reason is presented as unmitigated truth without one iota of logic.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 21st, 2011 at 10:41 am
Couldn't agree more with you.
VOjkan Milosavljevic
February 21st, 2011 at 11:02 am
His problem as well as bozh"s problem is that one can accidentally read one of their comments. And that's all.
Put together, their comments are several times longer than the column itself. Given that they are seldom split into well defined paragraphs, one truly has to be a masochist to embark upon reading them.
In the end, they flood the section with their prose but nobody reads it, therefore all their efforts are in vain. They'd have much better chances if they tried to be concise and factual. I really wonder why they waste their energy.
Spaniard
February 21st, 2011 at 11:11 am
Even rootless globalism (cosmopolitanism) is thousand times better than your crypto-Nazi bullshit about "kin". If you were not so superficial, you would know that not everything can be reduced to continuity in time. Some things are timeless.
Your silly comment about some Spaniards who at certain point of time might have helped some ustasha war criminals escape and your implication that because of that I shouldn't be allowed to comment on anything regarding former Yugoslavia (cause me and those mysterious helpers of ustashas are of the same "kin"??? such comment is the height of stupidity) reminded me of one Croat who once said that I, as a Spaniard, was not allowed to object to any tenets of Croatian nationalism and its vicious policy of ethnic cleansing (from the ustasha times until 1995) because, you see, we Spaniards are blood-thristy genocidalists who committed numerous atrocities over indigenous peoples of the Americas. Someone who belongs to such a "blood-thristy" nation should not object to anyone else's atrocities. Incredible! Then I told to that smart guy that I personally condemn Spanish supremacism, Spanish imperialism and its atrocities, but that taking those Spanish atrocities as an argument against any talk on Croatian atrocities was very disingenious and nonsensical from his part.
So it seems you and the ustashas are of the same mind.
conumishu
February 21st, 2011 at 11:52 am
Utterly ridiculous.
MvGuy
February 21st, 2011 at 12:32 pm
The thing that makes all the talk of OOO of course they wanted to get rid of Saddam…a lie is that WITHOUT 911 is was NOT possible…. They barely were able after 911…. so any reactive planing to treat invading Iraq and Afghanistan as a reality would mean they KNEW there would be the "some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor." Especially significant in terms of subsequent events was the acknowledgement in one of PNAC's own documents that their program for America (and Israel) would not readily be accepted by the American people. What this meant, PNAC opined in 2000, was that "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor." It's an endless argument of chicken and egg, but the plan to invade both countries shows "egg" and it is on their faces..
Suvorov
February 21st, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Well, be mindful of the article's title. Those two demonstrated the point splendidly. Besides, you cannot take away their comic effect.
Suvorov
February 21st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Whenever I hear about "universal rights", I reach for a vomit bag.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 21st, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Gives me nausea too.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 21st, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Maybe my understanding of English is faulty, but from what Mr Malic wrote, I didn't draw the conclusion that he implied that the invasion of Iraq wouldn't have been possible without 9/11. On the contrary, prior or ulterior planning notwithstanding, I understood that it came handy as a justification, just as Pearl Harbor did.
Suvorov
February 21st, 2011 at 3:14 pm
There was an independent Kingdom of Abkhazia in 780s when you were still in Azerbaijan and good 300 years before any mention of "Albania" appeared anywhere. They also have their own language and culture unlike "Kosovars" . And so do the Ossetians, who had a kingdom two centuries before the first literary reference to ''Albania" appeared. Thank you for the entertainment though.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 21st, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Crypto-Nazi? Godwin rules.How did you come to the conclusion that I subscribed to racial theories?
If you weren't that superficial, you would know that "continuity" and "timelessness" refer to two facets of the same concept. And I agree with the Croat who rebuffed you
I answered a Croat here that crimes committed by ancestors are not a matter of guilt. They were a matter of shame. That's why, all in all, I still prefer Croats to ectoplasms like you.
They feel no shame for their crimes. You are even more shameless. Mister, by what divine right do you think to be a tenant of truth? For, what I've read, you uphold "Sorosian" Imperial logic. You offer no arguments. You rely on stereotypes. Ever heard of Aristotle or Hegel and his syllogism about immortality in his Science of Logic? Otherwise, you wouldn't have jumped to the conclusion that I was a supremacist.
You see, I just happen to abhorr conformist mondialists like you. Because you see, I'm a libertarian who thinks that every one has the right to have an opinion, and that the abhorrence you inspire is a perfectly legitimate feeling, colour of skin, nationality and religion notwithstanding.
As a matter of fact, I think that your ilk is the most abhorrent on planet Earth, because think-rightful and do-gooders like you have the most gruesome killing record in the History of Civilisation.
Repeat after me: people are sovereign.
Hrebeljanovic
February 21st, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Wow, it must be that you own the UN, Nigel.
Instead of worrying about Milosevic and Karadzic, you should worry about your government harboring real criminals like Zhirinovsky 'cause its actions may sink your puny island.
Suvorov
February 21st, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Is it time to repeat Oscar Wilde (of all people!) yet again?
"He to whom the present is the only thing that is present, knows nothing of the age in which he lives".
It may seem cruel to force a globalist liberal to study history (I mean the real history as it happened, not the Marxist-Trotskyite-Fukuyama version of it), but it may be well worth it.
Uzun
February 21st, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Utterly preposterous (if you can handle words of that size) I know you can handle kidneys and other inner organs. But this is a challenging word – by the way WHO (World Health Organization) has published an average IQ nation by nation. Albania (not Kosovo – which is Serbian) but Albania is dead last with an average IQ of 68 to 72 – in plain English that's borderline retarded. No wonder your comments are equally retarded – even if you an exception with a high IQ of 75 or 76.
Uzun
February 21st, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Where do you get your "facts"? Rilindia, Koha ditore?
Uzun
February 21st, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Hey Dingbat – Kosovo has NO FUTURE. Look how long USA has supported Noriega, Hussein, Reza Pahlavi and many others (and they had oil) – you have NOTHING – how long do you think you can hide behind the American flag? Two more weeks – or less? The cretin is being annoying now trying to peddle some fictitious "Albanian History". Please calm down.
bozh
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
vojkan,
please, don’t expect that dead croats who murdered commmunists-socialists croats, serb or serbo-chetniks, ‘jews’, and romas
during ’41-45 period, wld feel shame-guilt.
expecting the offspring of such people to feel guilt or shame-guilt for serb deaths appears likewise a hunt for the snark.
and expecting me to feel shame is an useless pursuit also.
in addition, not all croatian soldiers serving pavelich have committed crimes.
in fact, they were recruited and misled by pavelic. even eugen kvaternik, who proclaimed NDH, upon finding out pavelic signed away half of croatia, was stunned by such betrayal.
and, of course, not all chetniks are guilty of chetnik crimes during ’41-45 and ’90-95 period.
having in mind such facts, i condemn collective blame and punishment.
as for nearly all croat’ns and all bosniaks being serbs and serb efforts to persuade them to accept that [or else], the best thing to have done wld have been to respect how they felt, regardless of what happened in distant past.
what counts is what a person feels at any moment and not at all how his/her distant ancestor thought-felt: be it serb, illyrian, roman, albanian, or croat.
the spaniard makes a grievous error when he blames all ustashas. altho spanish ‘nobility-clergy’ have indeed committed crimes against humanity, i do not blame spanish ‘lower’ classes.
caveat! the reason i put the word “jews” under single quotes is to distinguish them from jews of judea aka as judeans.
european, asian, and afrikan ‘jews’ are not the same people as jews of the judea! tnx
Uzun
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
You are not "a population" – don't flatter yourself. You are a bunch of parasites who thrive on a vast assortment of criminal activities. 72 out of the top 100 most wanted criminals in Europe are Albanians – does that mean that the interpol is following Mr. Malic? You (Albanians) have been the promoters of RACISM, HATE, WAR MONGERING, CHURCH BURNING, ORGAN TRAFFICKING, WHITE SLAVERY, HEROIN TRADE ETC. ETC. But your IQ is too modest to face the plain facts.
Uzun
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Viva ETA! Viva Cataluna libera!
Nigel
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Depending on the Chinese to save your hide. You will not be around to find out.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:43 am
Not every plant can thrive in any soil, however fertile. Not every soil can welcome any plant, however adaptable.
Pretending that you are one, isolated from your brethren, is a mark of egocentric arrogance. One doesn't exist without one's surrounding.
Being rootless is even worse than being narrow minded. Rootless people are incapable of compassion. Ideas don't bring comfort, love does.
So please, commentators thinking to be entitled to give lessons in spite of the crimes of their ancestry, reformulate your rantings before publishing them. You simply aren't credible.
Hrebeljanovic
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Yup. Mea culpa.
Alban
February 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Crimes of my ancestry? You are talking credibility, right? Check this out, fresh from the news today:
http://www.rnw.nl/international-justice/article/s…
Mr.Malic et co, enough with hate, enough with non-sense !
Albanians have had enough of you !!!
You are not good to anyone, including your own !!!
Alban
February 24th, 2011 at 10:16 am
"The former Serbian police chief and deputy interior minister, Vlastimir Djordjevic, was sentenced to 27 years in prison for war crimes, by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, on Wednesday.
Trial judges found him guilty of the murder of 724 Kosovo Albanians in Kosovo in 1999, as well as the coordination of a secret operation to conceal evidence by burying bodies in mass graves."
"Children of lies"…..indeed, it cannot describe Malic and his gang more perfectly!
Uzun
February 25th, 2011 at 4:57 am
If you are so sick of Mr. Malic, imagine how sick the rest of us are with your rubbish. Just look at your negative rating. Since you are so sick of Malic you should not be visiting this site – in return that will make the rest of us much happier as well – but you are a pathological liar just like your kinfolk and must come here to peddle your half baked "history lessons" inflated with one sided garbage full of insults and ignorance – do us all a favor (yourself included) and stop posting any comments here).
Uzun
February 25th, 2011 at 4:58 am
First you get a negative 5 rating for your rubbish now a negative 3 – do you think that most readers are rather sick of your diatribe, lies and twisted history? Why don't you leave this site if it is so hateful to you.
Alban
February 25th, 2011 at 6:04 am
I understand Uzun, my messages are perceived as an inconvenient truth to you and your gang here! Reality is harsh sometimes, but many people in this day and age are fortunately able to distinguish between peace and war, criminals and victims, perpetrators of violence versus efforts for dialog and reconciliation!
Antiwar.com will do us all a favor and truly promote peace messages, like it actually does in so many other subjects, except the Balkans.
Last, I will leave this site when it suits me!
Thanks for your recommendation though! Quite revealing in and on itself!
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 25th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Well, if "thumbs down" were to be taken as a measure of pertinence of comments, then I should refrain from commenting on this column ever again, given the negative ratings I get.
The problem with Alban is not that people dislike his comments, if I paid attention to "thumbs down" I get here, I'd never comment again on this column, but I don't mind telling inconvenient truths.
The problem is, like with the Croatian commentators – except with bozh who is a specimen of his own, but I guess that's because of his Macedonian origins -, the hatred against Serbs that transpires from every word he writes. Whether the crimes he mentions are real or imaginary doesn't matter. People who steal other people's land always need to justify their atrocities by dehumanising their enemies.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 25th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Sorry for the repetition in my previous comment.
Pay attention to Alban's vocabulary. Words have meaning. Basically, he accuses Serbs of being what he perceives his kin and himself to be.
Pay attention also to the fact that he felt compelled to answer me, even though there was no mention whatsoever of nationality in my post. What I wrote doesn't matter. He judges on mere intent.
Is it worth then answering someone using only fallacies as arguments?
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 25th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Speaking of gangs…
Your problem is that however hard you try, however much educated you want to be perceived, your subconsciousness still speaks volumes. You aren't even aware of how revealing your choice of words is. You aren't even aware that your pseudo speaks volumes of your rabid nationalism.
The difference between you and us is that we are a nation, like the French are a nation, like the Americans are a nation, you are a herd.
We are a nation because we all think different and yet we have a sense of belonging that make us question the actions of our brethren.
You are a herd because you want to eliminate difference. You are a herd because you go where your kin go, without questioning. What unites you is not a sense of belonging but a yearning for uniformity based on the reflection you'd love to see in a mirror.
But mirrors don't lie. However hard you try, and however much you hate her for being what you aren't, in the end you'll never be Snowy White.
That's another difference between us. We assume not being virgin. You desperately crave for faking virginity.
Suvorov
February 25th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Uzun,
"…do us all a favor (yourself included) and stop posting any comments here)."
What is wrong with you? Don't you like to have a good laugh? Even if you don't, you can't deprive others of that pleasure. Of course, it also makes me want to cry when I realize that Alban was the best that goat-humpers could come up with.
Suvorov
February 25th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
You have to at least give him credit for being able to write. If commenting on Mr. Malic's articles is their only incentive to become literate, so be it! Nebojsa Malic for Albania's Minister of Education (do they have one?)!!
Suvorov
February 25th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
He is somewhat disappointing though in that he failed to mention Milosevic building medieval churches and monasteries in Kosovo. But I suppose he partially redeemed himself by referring to ICTY.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 26th, 2011 at 1:03 am
You made me chuckle while eating kosher rillettes and pickles.
Uh oh, Michael Kenny will make up a Zionist conspiracy out of it.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 26th, 2011 at 1:59 am
Just remember Dučić. They are ashamed of nothing.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 26th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Btw, their indomitable craving for attention will one of these days make me feel uncomfortable… Nah, I'm trying to have fun, but they're to uncultured to be fun.. I think I'll stick with the piano.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 26th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Yes, you should feel guilty for ever engaging a conversation with a specimen like… C'est quoi son vrai nom déjà?
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 26th, 2011 at 10:57 am
It's good to see that you know how they landed in Kosovo.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 26th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Looks like the Albanian brigade is rampaging on thumbs. That's the problem with them, they are essential cowards. In a face to face battle, they're crying mummy faster than you can spell uh.
eric siverson
February 26th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Sorry Milosevic was to young to be of service in Hitlers Army . where as both Alijia Iztebegovic and Your Croat NAZI served . Whats a nationalist ? Your nazis were not nationalists as they both wanted to leave thier own country of Yugoslavia . Croats and Bosnia muslims are nazis now and they were in the 40s too . This word nationalist is a stupid incorrect word that the international criminals used to demonize varrious people . It means you are in favor of your own country rather than another country . Evreybody should want a nationalist as president of his own country . If you are listoning to the mainstream international media and accepting thier story as true you have been very much missled . Go to the actual trail transcripts of Milosevic's trail and you will come away with complete different story ..
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 26th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
I just wish people to ignore your imbecility. For you are a true, genuine, authentic imbecile. The kind having blood on his hands and not realising it because you don't distinguish colours. There are many shades between black and white. And I promise you, if I ever meet you, you so much disgust me moth^rf^ck^r, that I'll make you taste you your own piss. To be so devoid of any sort of compassion simply isn't human.
eric siverson
February 26th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
I'll write you one right now about Georgia that recieved several billion dollars worth of aid from NATO countries . Georgia attack South Ossettia thinking NATO would come to thier aid . But instead Russia came to south Ossettia's aid ,and NATO backed away from Georgia . Hum Nato should have attacked Russia first when they were weak . Instead NATO attack Yugoslavia . This allowed Russia a 8 yr preparation period . Russia under Putin and Aleksander Solhenitzsyn strengthed incrediable fast in 8 yrs . So much so that NATO decided it best to leave Russia alone . I have a hard time telling any difference in NATO and the Old fashion nazis NATO seems to run just as little Justice in thier courts only difference NATO lies more and has far better prapaganda machinary
eric siverson
February 26th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
The Serb army in Kosovo was not defeated , They waited patiently for the NATO ground invasion that never came .. Instead a peace agreement was brokered by the Russian president Yelsin . Yelsin promised Russian troops would protect the Serbian Christians in Kosovo . and UN troops would keep the peace in Kosovo .untill Serbia could take over again . Serbia did not expell a million Albanians and they would not need too . They only needed to expell the KLA terrorists and arrest the Criminals . The KLA and NATO bombers expelled a million Albanian and Serbs , not the Serbian army . Of course they KLA said the Albanians were being persecuted and expelled , and they were by the KLA not the Serb army . The KLA killed more Albanians than Serbs
eric siverson
February 26th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Alban yes Milosevic crimes were never found to be true so it is a lie Most of the Albanian graves turned up empty so thats a lie . before the NATO bombing only a little over 2000 people had been killed most of them Albanians killed by the KLA . Serbrencia in Bosnia is also much of a lie , although here the Serbs did massacure some Albanian criminals without trails . not 8000, but maybe a few less than a 1000 with thier hands tied behind thier back and a bullet in the head , this was a crime never the less .so this is not a lie but maybe a exageration . After the War I would say thier is not 20000 albanians unaccounted for but closer to 10,000 . When you take into consideration the present Kosovo goverenment also captured and sold body organs after the war from many Albanians as well as Serbs . When ever you deal with muslims you have to accept a lot of untruths will be propagated . This is thier specialty to tell lots of stories to make themselves look innocent and thier opposition look terrible . It worked incrediably well in Yugoslavia .
Alban
February 27th, 2011 at 4:03 am
Hi Guys! You never disappoint, do you? Never a dull moment! God bless you!
Here is an update for all of you and hopefully it will help to sober up!
Jeremić (Serb foreigh minister) : Libya (Muammar el-Qaddafi) supports Serbia! http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?…
Serbian Mercenaries Fighting on Behalf of Gaddafi http://balkanupdate.blogspot.com/2011/02/serb-mer…
The Alo newspaper from Serbia goes on to say that these mercenaries, some of whom work in various African countries as hired guns and other live in Serbia, immediately swung in action after being contacted by Libyans. They left their current jobs because Libyans are apparently paying them in 10's of thousands of dollars. According to the newspapers military source these are former members of Serbian Special Forces military group called "Red Berets" who was disbanded in 2003 because too many of them were found to have connections with criminals and with the major massacres in Bosnia and Kosovo. The same people who brought us the Srebrenica and Račak massacres are now back in action again.God have mercy on Libyan civilians!
Now we know why Gaddafi's son Seif al-Islam Gaddafi referenced Yugoslavia a few days ago when he essentially threaten to repeat the bloodshed Yugoslavia saw in 1990's if protesters didn't stop. These mercenaries must have reminded him of Yugoslavia -there is no other reasons why one would compare the conflict in Yugoslavia to the current one in Libya.
It's also worth mentioning that Lybia's relation with Serbia goes much further than these mercenaries.Serbia's Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić has bragged recently about his countries close relationship with Tripoli and its refusal to recognize the Independence of Kosovo. Not a single word from him or the Serbian government over these atrocities in Libya and these allegations that Serbian citizen are actively taking part in them. The silence is deafening.
Update (02/25/2011 at 9:37):
Ben Wedeman of CNN just reported on Piers Morgan Show that more Serbian as well as Ukrainian mercenaries are pouring in Libya to help prop up Gaddafi. Just confirms what I wrote above.
Alban
February 27th, 2011 at 4:19 am
Children of Lies…… here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvNvbBJJT5o
Serbian mercenary pilots
http://malta.cc/latest-news/rolling-update-live-l…
Reliable sources in Tripoli have confirmed that over 500 persons have died in late night clashes between government sponsored troops and protesters against the Gaddafi government in the capital and surrounding towns.
Other sources have reported seeing thousands of foreign mercenaries roaming the streets and more are being brought in to stem the rebellion. Serbian pilots are reputed to be manning the planes which are dive bombing protesters.
http://www.akademediasrbija.com/index.php?option=…
Alban
February 27th, 2011 at 4:40 am
OK, to be fair, here is the response from the other side:
http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/serbia-denies-…
Still quite fishy though, as :
"According to official data, Serbia's state-run weapons exporter Yugoimport SDPR has however exported to Libya over the past decade.
The defence ministry said it had "suspended all joint activities with Libya at the moment due to ongoing developments".
"The Serbian budget could suffer to a degree because of potential loss of revenues from defence exports. We will likely resume cooperation with Libya as soon as situation there is back to normal and only after consulting Western partners," the military official said.
Serbia's Defence Minister Dragan Sutanovac said earlier this year the government was eyeing a $400 million-worth development of a military hospital in Libya."
Guest
February 27th, 2011 at 8:25 am
all comments made by the person who call him self "Alban" prove that Albanian where the most uneducated people in Europe living under stalinist regime for 60 years learning only lies from their uneducated dictadors
Uzun
February 27th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Alban has one huge advantage. He (I think it's a he) fill the most perfect profile of an idiot, along the thought "if you try something useless and stupid – with no results, keep repeating the same efforts to get the same (no) results. I will take that back it's is not a HE nor a SHE it is an IT. There can be no gender for some subhuman typing device devoid of all intellect, with absence of mind. Both sad and funny – how IT proves that albanians are barely out of a cave and only belong to a larger cave.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 27th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Folks, why do you waste energy by paying attention to what Alban writes? Let's summarise. They trade organs, traffic drugs, force women to prostitute, all highly lucrative businesses, and yet they're miserable, they dress in rags, they haven't moved further than Neanderthals on the evolution ladder.
Praise this site for allowing people like him to reveal their true nature and resist the temptation to comment on his posts. Let him loose. He's doing a fine job of ridiculing himself, all by himself.
Roque Santa Cruz
February 27th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
as long as you have your americans protecting you, nothing will happen, but one day your protector will be gone. many are waiting for that day
Spaniard
February 28th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
By calling entire peoples "Nazi" (Croats and Bosnian Muslims, in this case), you are showing how uncivilized you are. People like you don't belong to any polite company.
Milosevic was a Nazi by his actions. It's not direct alliance with Hitler that make one Nazi, but his behaviour.
Uzun
February 28th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Vojkan makes perfect sense. IT does not need any help proving what an imbecile can do.
Uzun
March 1st, 2011 at 6:13 am
From Japan Times: Wrong choice in Kosovo
By GREGORY CLARK
A recent Council of Europe report says that during and after the 1998-99 Kosovo conflict, militia leaders of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) tortured and killed hundreds of Serbs and political rivals in secret Albanian hideouts, removed their organs for sale and dumped their bodies in local rivers.
The report added that these people were also heavily involved in drug, sex and illegal immigrant trafficking across Europe. Yet while all this was going on, the NATO powers had decreed that Serbia should be bombed into accepting the KLA as Kosovo's legitimate rulers — rather than the more popular Democratic League of Kosovo headed by the nationalist intellectual Ibrahim Rugova advocating nonviolent independence.
Recent years have not been kind to Western policymakers. They have shown an almost unerring ability to choose the wrong people for the wrong policies. Think back to the procession of incompetents chosen to rescue Indochina from the communist enemy. Does anyone even remember their names today? Yet at the time they were supposed to be nation-savers.
Before that the United Kingdom, United States and Australia had banded to try to prevent Lee Kuan Yew from being elected prime minister of Singapore. He was seen as a crypto-communist. They preferred the incompetent pro-British Lim Yew Hock.
Then we saw the West, and Japan, throw their support behind the hapless Afghan President Hamid Karzai as the strongman to defeat the evil Taliban whom the U.S. had once embraced as the good Taliban.
If not for the end of the Cold War, we almost certainly would be seeing the U.S. and U.K. today once again backing Middle East dictators against their protesting masses.
And now we discover that the people chosen to take over Kosovo from Serbia were not quite the heroes they were made out to be at the time.
Western involvement in the breakup of the former Yugoslavia had more than its share of such mistakes. The Serbian forces resisting the breakup were accused of war crimes and ethnic cleansing. But anyone aware of that nation's troubled history should have realized that the Serbian minorities in Croatia and Bosnia would not accept domination by the successors to their former pro-Nazi oppressors.
Retaliations and violent resistance, including even the shocking Srebrenica killings, were inevitable. Besides, the final result was that close to a million Serbs had to seek refuge in Serbia itself. So who had been cleansing whom?
Kosovo too had seen wartime ethnic cleansing against Serbs by pro-Nazi elements. The cleansing continued during the 1990s as U.S.-trained KLA guerrillas targeted Serbs isolated in rural districts and towns (by then Belgrade's efforts to give the province autonomy had failed on the rock of ethnic Albanian noncooperation).
When Belgrade finally sent in troops to resist the guerrillas, it was accused of war crimes even though the illegitimate force used was much less than what we see when most other Western nations, the U.S. particularly, intervene against guerrillas they do not like.
When many ethnic Albanians fled temporarily after the NATO bombing intervention, that too was supposed to be Serbian ethnic cleansing.
Even after gaining power, the KLA violence and cleansings continued. Their victims included the Jewish and Roma minorities and ethnic Albanians who had cooperated with Serbia's attempt to offer autonomy. The trafficking of drugs, women and body organs continued, right under the noses of the U.N. forces sent in to maintain order. Rugova supporters were eliminated.
The U.S., U.K. and Germany bear most of the blame for this horror; Germany especially should have realized the passions that would be unleashed by any sudden breakup of the former Yugoslavia. But they seemed more interested in the geopolitical gains.
In exchange for helping the KLA, the U.S. got to add the strategic Bondsteel military base in Kosovo to its global base network. And the feisty U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright got to play world leader at the 1999 Rambouillet conference by decreeing that the dashing, handsome KLA leader Hashim Thaci was far preferable to the elderly, unpretentious Rugova as Kosovo's future leader, and that Serbia should be bombed if it did not agree. Belgrade's agreement to Rugova as leader of an independent Kosovo was dismissed as irrelevant.
One wonders how the Serbs saw this performance. Two generations earlier, they had been the only European nation with the courage to resist Nazi attack. They had been bombed and massacred as a result. Now they were to suffer again at the hands of the NATO-supporting European nations, most of whom had spinelessly succumbed to, or had even collaborated with, that former Nazi enemy.
True, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe has now resolved that it is "extremely concerned" over the recent KLA revelations. But is that not rather too late?
And will we see apologies from the people behind the past policies, particularly from the likes of former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair who still boasts that his firm resolve against Serbian "ethnic cleansing" in Kosovo led him to support the U.S. in Iraq? I doubt it.
Gregory Clark is a former Australian diplomat and longtime resident of Japan. A Japanese translation of this article will appear on http://www.gregoryclark.net
Alban
March 1st, 2011 at 9:10 am
Your postings in this forum conform very well with the notion of “The Mud Machine”:
Saviano ( I do hope you know him already…), in speaking about Mafia, describes this reaction as la macchina del fango, “the mud machine”, a phrase that has caught on in Italy.
– “the foulness of moral compromise, of indifference, of … complicity”. It is the tactic of the powerful “to confer legitimacy on those who conform, to encourage or even initiate the workings of ‘the mud machine’ to those who threaten their rule”.
Politicians everywhere do not like those who bring out into the open that which they try to hide and keep away from the public. Saviano has described this reaction as ‘la macchina del fango’ – ‘the mud machine.’ Mud machines exist in every country, usually run with the blessing of politicians and their acolytes who do not want to lose the privileges of all sorts which they have gained from years in power. So, they use vitriol to attack in every way possible those who uncover that which they prefer to remain well-hidden. They hope that by instilling fear – you will keep your mouth zipped and accept the status quo.
Yes, mud machines. They are often a subtle weapon disguised as newspaper or columns or TV programmes, blogs and postings and secretly approved of – even initiated and encouraged – by politicians and others who, at the same time, are putting up a fight against divorce and want to come across as being ready for beatification.
Alban
March 1st, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Uzun,
I respect the fact that this time, at least, you are not personally attacking me (for once)…or all Albanian nation…… as you and many other have done, but instead did some leg work and found a source of info to prove your point.
Good start!
Next, if you could start thinking and writing in the framework of establishing peace and reconciliation, and not incite war, we will all look back at the primitive ways people in the Balkans (to this day) are solving their problems and be ashamed of them!
Suvorov
March 1st, 2011 at 5:23 pm
It is perfectly natural that you should be knowledgeable about mafia. You even capitalized the word out of reverence.
Alban
March 2nd, 2011 at 4:20 am
Thanks for the "Mud", Suvorov!
Anything else to say other than that, or is it just your shift on the "Mud Machine" factory ?
Suvorov
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 am
I am sure everyone is glad that you learned the word combination "mud machine", but it is time to tell you that there are other words in English language. I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but your "mud" is not sticking, if only to you. Try to think of another analogy. Tell me if I am too demanding, asking you to come up with more than one.
eric siverson
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 am
Trudgman and Iztebevic were in direct alliance with your friend Hitler . In his service . They never were denazified like Germany , France and ect . Thier actions were at least as bad , I think worse than anything Milosevic did . Nazis arent always so bad , they may actually hold some advantages over communists . We are talking about war , Wars are not polite . Wars are uncivilized . Of course I'am not saying all Bosnians muslim or Croats are strong nazis . Not all Hitlers Germans were strong Nazis either . But the NAZIs ran the show . and they did it again in the 1990s in the balkans . Only NATO helped them this time .
eric siverson
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:33 am
But Albanians want to take 5 countries Kosovo , part of Montenegroe , more of Serbia , part of Macedonia and Greece . This will be 6 countries for greater Albania . NATO seems to be approving this , I'am sure NATO assists with the illegal drug business but are the also getting a cut out of the Albanian organ harvesting business ?
eric siverson
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:52 am
I accept what you state as a very important pt . I too am from the west and these dam rights democracy bull boop lunitics have lost the reason to even call this a country any longer , but for me it has evreything to do with thier war crimes , miss applying rights and values . These people claim evil is good and good is evil , lies are truth , There is no right and wrong
This has happend becuase the majority of our leadership wants to creat a world goverenment ,without telling us what they believe is best for us . They probabley correctly believe we would not chose to join a world goverenment ourselves So they dont plan on giving the right to chose or reject thier plans .
eric siverson
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:13 am
I think the Finn is a nazi too
Uzun
March 4th, 2011 at 2:31 am
Isn't there sufficient proof that islam is nothing but an advanced cult. There are no basis on which this perversion can be called a religion or faith – much less "a peaceful religion" – as it is fashionable nowadays for some of our politicians to keep mouthing. Wherever in the world there was islam blood baths ensued (it's a fact). How come? What progress (advantages) has islam ever brought to the world? None.
Let's look at (Srebrenica): http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2566
Frankfurt: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110302/ap_on_re_eu/e…
Is that lunatic screaming Alahu Akbar a muslim belonging to a peaceful religion or am I the Queen of England? You do the math till you figure out that islam is the scourge on Earth.
Spaniard
March 4th, 2011 at 6:49 am
I was right about you: you are uncivilized to the extreme. The likes of you don't deserve to be taken seriously, ever. They don't deserve that their point of view be heard and taken into consideration. No tolerance for the intolerant, ie. for those who think that hatred and contempt for entire nations is acceptable. It is not acceptable, under any circumstances. There was one case when negative collective view of an entire people ended in bloodshed: it was the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. Since then, no-one should be allowed to gratuitously spew hatred. But obviously people from the Balkans (and those Westerners who support this or that faction in the Balkans) haven't yet gotten that message.
"War is not polite". I can't recall having heard anything so idiotic in my life. Anyone can say that while justifying his actions: any Nazi, Fascist, terrorist of any sort etc. You are either bereft of any moral feeling or you are mentally retarded. Tertium non datur.
Uzun
March 4th, 2011 at 8:04 am
OK, Alban where did you go now? The Albanian who killed two Americans at the Franfurt Airport was praising his God yelling Alahu Akbar, wasn't he? There goes 100% of your science fiction. One (or several acts like this) are perfectly enough to show Albanian's leanings. Remember Fort Dix in N. J.?
Here: http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/7392066…
Alex
March 5th, 2011 at 3:55 am
Nebojsa keep on a good work. There has been so many lies regarding the balkan wars of 1990's that it makes your stomach turn. I support your views and I too am sick of this anti-serb propaganda which was concieved in turn to make people swallow the Yugoslav war and to make people approve of USA and EU active involvement in destruction of Yugoslavia.
Alex
March 5th, 2011 at 3:56 am
Even to this day where strong evidence had been put forward about Markale bombing which states that the granade came from the muslim positions and that the explosion yield was too high to be a mortar. Yet this is not enough the change the lie that Serbs bombed it . Even the Canadian General who served in Bosnia stated recently that muslim jihadists from iran, marroco, saudi arabia, were shooting bosnian muslim children on the street by snipers which later was blamed on the Serbs.
peter
March 5th, 2011 at 3:57 am
So many lies about Srebrenica, bosnian muslims wont even allow an independant investigation to count how many people were killed. Although a massacre and a crime this is not a genocide. Only genocide that was commited in balkans was made by Bulagria and Austro-Hungarian empire after their invasion of Serbia in early in 1915. Second Genocide happend again agaisnt the Serbs by puppet nazi state of indipendent croatia where over 700,000 Serbs, Gypsies and Jews were murdered by Croats. It sickens me when they compare Srebrenica to german genocide of 1940's.
I dont know how this world can function with all these lies being strung around and i dont beleive that EU will continue much further with its lies and untruths. You cannot build something based on lies, manipulation and false ideas.
Alex
March 5th, 2011 at 4:05 am
You dont like the other side of the medal sir? You are interested in anti-serb one point of view out of the box Goebbels style propaganda? then its easy simply read commentaries made by that imbecile Christine Ammanpur or whater you spell that witches name. Sholdnt be too hard to find anti-serb propaganda.
eric siverson
April 23rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Now they are , Israel claims to be home for all Jews needing a refuge