Sen. Rand Paul wants to be taken seriously – as a presidential candidate, as heir to the energetic youth-oriented movement founded by his father, and as a foreign policy Deep Thinker. This last goal was supposed to have been approached, if not reached, by his much-anticipated foreign policy speech delivered at the Heritage Foundation the other day, which was supposed to give wonkish heft to his presidential ambitions.
Barely twenty minutes long, Sen. Paul’s peroration was two thirds Glenn Beck, and one third Robert Taft – with a dash of George Kennan thrown in for good measure. Right off the bat, however, he made the point he wanted to make: I am not my father. To which one can only add: you can say that again.
"Foreign policy," averred Paul the Younger, "is uniquely an arena where we should base decisions on the landscape of the world as it is . . . not as we wish it to be. I see the world as it is. I am a realist, not a neoconservative, nor an isolationist."
What is telling about his opening shot is how deftly he utilizes the language of the War Party to define – and restrict – the parameters of the foreign policy debate. As paleoconservative foreign policy analyst Daniel Larison has tirelessly pointed out, there is no such thing as "isolationism" in American politics: not today, not yesterday, and not ever. No one believes the US should isolate itself from the world and turn this country – connected to the rest of the globe by innumerable ties of trade, sympathy, and kinship – into the Western equivalent of the Hermit Kingdom. "Isolationism" is an epithet rather than a description of anyone’s real views, meant to stifle discussion rather than advance it.
Rand Paul surely knows this. He’s heard his father deny and deride the "isolationist" label, no doubt thousands of times, and so his choice of words may seem distinctly odd. It is, instead, a calculated effort to banish the looming image of the elder Paul, the nation’s leading non-interventionist, from the room, and he does so right off the bat. Indeed, the entire speech – and, come to think of it, his entire political career since being elected to the Senate – could be summed up in five words: I am not my father!
This rhetorical patricide accomplished, he pressed onward – and downward:
"When candidate John McCain argued in 2007 that we should remain in Iraq for 100 years, I blanched and wondered what the unintended consequences of prolonged occupation would be. But McCain’s call for a hundred year occupation does capture some truth: that the West is in for a long, irregular confrontation not with terrorism, which is simply a tactic, but with Radical Islam."
Writing about this trope in The American Conservative, Larison confessed he was "puzzled" by the reference to "Radical Islam," and went on to point out in his best pedagogical manner why this glosses over the very real differences between the goals and methods of competing jihadist groups: it is a generalization so diffuse as to be devoid of meaning. The result, says Larison, is "confusing." Perhaps, but I have to ask: confusing for whom?
To those relatively few Americans who understand that there are, indeed, real differences between, say, the Sunni jihadists who overthrew Qadaffi and took power in Libya and Lebanon’s Hezbollah, this kind of rhetorical shorthand is indeed puzzling. If a young Rand Paul wrote a term paper around this theme he would surely get no more than a C-minus. However, his Aqua Buddha days are over, he’s a bigtime politician now, and he isn’t addressing an academic audience, or even one that is moderately well-informed: he’s talking to the folks back home in Kentucky, the same ones who rallied against the building of a mosque in their midst and worry that sharia law is coming to their town. He’s talking to Glenn Beck, on whose program he appeared shortly before his Heritage speech. In the midst of a discussion about John Kerry and Sen. Paul’s crusade to cast Egypt out of the circle of US allies, he ventured:
"Well, and it hasn’t been a month ago that President Morsi was at a prayer meeting with a radical Sheik.
GLENN: I know.
RAND PAUL: Standing next to him saying death to Israel and anybody who supports Israel. And so it’s like …
GLENN: And wait, wait. Don’t forget, and the new capital of the Caliphate will be Jerusalem.
RAND PAUL: Yeah.
GLENN: That was at that same meeting.
RAND PAUL: Yeah. So the thing is what we’ve elected or what they’ve gotten in Egypt is a very radical government that I think can’t be counted on not to attack Israel and we shouldn’t be giving them weapons. Absolutely. Until there’s some kind of stability, and even then we don’t have the money to be doing it anyway."
Aside from the wisdom of selling F-16s to the Egyptians, this cozy little conversation sent a clear message to Beck’s dwindling fan club, the same one he used to broadcast tirelessly when he was at Fox News: The Caliphate is coming! The Caliphate is coming! That has been the rallying cry of Beck and his frothy-mouthed fans, and the theme song of the loony-tunes far right in the post-9/11 era. The neo-Know-Nothing Party in America, instead of lynching Catholics, is out after them thar Mooslims, who – as every one of Beck’s devoted fans knows – are out to take over the world.
Sunni, Shi’ite, Salafist – it’s all the same to the Beckians, and, apparently, to the ambitious Senator. In the theology of the Republican ultra-right – and it is a theology, or, at least, an ideology wrapped inside a sectarian religious canon – the rise of both Israel and Radical Islam prefigure events foretold in the Bible. The End-times are upon us, the "born-again" Christian fundamentalists insist, and the Biblical clock is ticking. The emergence of a Global Caliphate is a sign of the coming of the Anti-Christ, whose appearance augurs an attack on Israel: what’s coming next is the battle of Armageddon, the Rapture, and the Second Coming of Christ.
That’s why it is useless to apply the lens of international relations theory to the young Senator’s foreign policy expostulations. Better to look at it as a political calculation – the only way to understand Rand Paul’s various zigs and zags along the road to 2016.
Rand Paul and his advisors have made a political decision to align themselves with the furthest-right fringe of the GOP. We’re not talking here about the most radical of his father’s followers, who tend toward the secular – and hate him for endorsing Mitt Romney at the GOP’s Tampa Bay convention, just as the elder Paul’s convention delegates were being stolen out from under him.
His new allies are the folks he recently traveled with to Israel, a gaggle of born-again fundamentalists active in the American Family Association: the Mississippi-based AFA is one of the more extreme Christian Right groups, whose spokesmen have said "the jihadists on 9/11 were the agents of God’s wrath in order to get our attention as a people,” and likened gays to Nazis.
While in Israel, Sen. Paul gave his blessing to the government’s aggressive "settlement" program, and attacked his own government for trying to interfere with this thinly disguised ethnic cleansing campaign.
One would think a supposed "libertarian" would be standing there right by the Palestinian olive groves as the IDF bulldozes them, along with privately owned Palestinian homes, defending the property rights of the dispossessed, and speaking out against this brazen exercise of eminent domain – as he would if it happened in this country.
But no – because that doesn’t fit in with the theology of those who paid for the good Senator’s trip. They believe Israel must be unconditionally supported on the grounds that it’s God’s Will. Israel has a special place in their hearts because the ingathering of the Jews to their historic homeland is seen as one more sign that we are truly living in the End Times – and war between the Forces of Light and the Forces of Darkness is imminent.
Although he never gives religious import to this foreign policy views, this lunacy is really the basis of Sen. Paul’s "realism." It is the subtext of his campaign to defund Egypt, Pakistan, and indeed any country "where they’re burning our flag," while giving Israel a pass because they aren’t doing that (yet). As he and Beck sat there exchanging data points about the rising Anti-Christ – did you know the capital of the Caliphate is going to be in Jerusalem? Well, of course I do – the message went out to all the tithe-paying, Israel-loving, gay-hating born-agin’ers: Rand Paul is one of us.
This crowd is looking for a leader, and Sen. Paul has applied for the job. During the Bush years, this radical fringe grumbled on the margins: they seethed when the President made a point of saying the jihadists are a minority, and a tiny one at that, reassuring American Muslims that they need not fear suffering the fate of Japanese-Americans during World War II. This convinced the fringies that the administration had itself been infiltrated by "Radical Islam," a conspiracy theory taken up by professional haters like David Horowitz and Frank Gaffney. While avoiding the more obvious excesses of this crowd, Sen. Paul nevertheless echoes their analysis of, as he puts it, "the landscape of the world as it is, not as we wish it to be." His brand of "realism" brushes aside all distinctions, and sees Radical Islam – don’t forget to capitalize it! – as the true face of the Muslim world:
"As many are quick to note, the war is not with Islam but with a radical element of Islam – the problem is that this element is no small minority but a vibrant, often mainstream, vocal and numerous minority. Whole countries, such as Saudi Arabia, adhere to at least certain radical concepts such as the death penalty for blasphemy, conversion, or apostasy. A survey in Britain after the subway bombings showed 20% of the Muslim population in Britain approved of the violence."
So why do they hate us? His father had – has – an answer to that: it’s "blowback" for decades of intervention in their internal affairs, including not only the Iraq and Afghan wars but the long history of American meddling throughout the region. Rand goes out of his way to disagree:
"Some libertarians argue that western occupation fans the flames of radical Islam – I agree. But I don’t agree that absent western occupation that radical Islam ‘goes quietly into that good night.’ I don’t agree with FDR’s VP Henry Wallace that the Soviets (or Radical Islam in today’s case) can be discouraged by ‘the glad hand and the winning smile.’"
According to Beck, Horowitz, Gaffney, and Sen. Paul’s new-found friends at the American Family Association, Islam – like Marxism – is inherently hostile to America, and its adherents are out to destroy us. Rand has become the voice of those folks back home in Kentucky who claim, "Islam builds mosques at the sites of their conquests and victories." The Senator doesn’t quite put it that way, but says instead:
"Americans need to understand that Islam has a long and perseverant memory. As Bernard Lewis writes, ‘despite an immense investment in the teaching and writing of history, the general level of historical knowledge in American society is abysmally low. The Muslim peoples, like everyone else in the world, are shaped by their history, but unlike some others, they are keenly aware of it.’
"Radical Islam is no fleeting fad but a relentless force. Though at times stateless, Radical Islam is also supported by radicalized nations such as Iran. Though often militarily weak, Radical Islam makes up for its lack of conventional armies with unlimited zeal.
"For Americans to grasp the mindset of Radical Islam we need to understand that they are still hopping mad about the massacre at Karbala several hundred years ago. Meanwhile, many Americans seem to be more concerned with who is winning ‘Dancing with the Stars.’"
Here is a rhetorical jambalaya that combines all the themes of the backwoods born-gain types with the more sophisticated paranoia of the Israel lobby’s neoconservative intellectuals. Never mind that it makes no sense to conflate Iran with Egypt’s Sunni radicals: this dish, served up piping hot, is what Sen. Paul and his claque hope will whet the appetite of far-right activists for Paul in 2016.
Sen. Paul is no Pat Robertson, however, and the media wouldn’t like it if he was, and so it is necessary to dress up what is essentially a religious doctrine in a secular suit-and-tie. After making vague noises about "restraint," and pointing to his efforts to ensure that he’ll have a chance to vote on whether we go to war with Iran, the Senator trots out George Kennan and the cold war strategy of "containment." This is meant to be the bridge between his father’s non-interventionist loyalists and his new friends in the "born again" milieu, but it is a rickety structure that shows signs of collapse before it is even erected. It is, however, a necessary expedient on his road to the White House, along which he zigs – we need a foreign policy of "restraint" – and he zags – "Iran does need to know all options are on the table" – arriving, somewhat dizzy and disheveled, back where he started:
"Containment, though, should be discussed as an option with regard to the more generalized threat from radical Islam. Radical Islam, like communism, is an ideology with far reach and will require a firm and patient opposition."
He cites Kennan’s biographer as describing containment as "a path between the appeasement that had failed to prevent WWII and the alternative of a third world war." Eager – nay, desperate – to find "a middle path," as he puts it, between his father’s movement and the larger far-right constituency he wants to cultivate, he gloms on to Kennan, hoping that will sufficiently impress the policy wonks at Heritage while also pleasing his buddy Beck. The war against Radical Islam is just like the cold war, avers Sen. Paul: a Long War in which the patience and perseverance of the Christian West is to be tested against those "relentless" Mooslims still angry about what happened in Karbala all those years ago.
Containment is not isolationism, he is quick to point out: it’s choosing your battles and your battlefields, as Kennan advised, on the basis of drawing the "distinction between vital and peripheral interests," and using military force in selected situations, i.e. when "’A) [t]here is a sufficiently powerful national interest’ and B) when ‘we have the means to conduct such intervention successfully and can afford the cost." To the evangelical crowd he’s befriended, no cost is too great if it’s spent in defense of Israel, and Sen. Paul has obliged them by declaring that any attack on Israel is to be considered an attack on the United States. Whether this means rockets from Gaza, or an allegedly imminent threat from Iran is left to the imagination.
This leaves Senator Paul right where he wants to be when it comes to Iran – on the fence – while giving him the opportunity to pose as the voice of "restraint." Adopting the cold war paradigm as the backdrop to this essentially religious narrative also gives him credence with the Glenn Beck crowd, while to the neocons he offers a revised version of the old anti-communist demonology of the 1950s and 60s, populating it with radical Islamists rather than red devils.
The absurdity of equating a few jihadists hiding in a cave somewhere with the nuclearized might of the former Soviet Union aside for a moment, it is worth going back in history and looking at how the cold war transformed the conservative movement. Conservatives weren’t always carping warmongers: they used to be unapologetic advocates of what is now derided as "isolationism." It was the right-wingers of the 1930s and 40s who inveighed against the folly of "collective security," and warned that we’d be drawn into a European war at the cost of both prosperity and liberty (not to mention countless lives). It was Sen. Robert A Taft, "Mr. Republican," who opposed NATO, looked askance at the Marshall Plan, and foresaw the folly of fighting a land war in Asia.
Such views are heretical on the right today, but how did this great transformation occur – and so quickly? The answer is that the right’s rabid anti-communism got the better of them: the McCarthyite fever that infected even the best of them eventually led conservatives into advocating a global struggle against the Kremlin. The war on commmies at home soon became a war on commies abroad – and we can see the same evolution taking place in the person of Senator Paul. From his father’s stance of no intervention anywhere, unless we are directly attacked, the son now advances a new "middle way." Already halfway down the slippery slope, the Senator opined:
"I recognize that foreign policy is complicated. It is inherently less black and white to most people than domestic policy. I think there is room for a foreign policy that strikes a balance.
"If for example, we imagine a foreign policy that is everything to everyone, that is everywhere all the time that would be one polar extreme. Likewise if we imagine a foreign policy that is nowhere any of the time and is completely disengaged from the challenges and dangers to our security that really do exist in the world – well, that would be the other polar extreme.
"There are times, such as existed in Afghanistan with the bin Laden terrorist camps, that do require intervention. Maybe, we could be somewhere, some of the time."
Somewhere, some of the time. What does this mean, exactly? Well, he doesn’t want you to know the details. Because, you see, like Ronald Reagan, he believes in the principle of "strategic ambiguity." As he explains:
"Reagan himself wrote, ‘I have a foreign policy. I just don’t happen to think it’s wise to tell the world what your foreign policy is." Reagan’s liberal critics would descry a lack of sophistication but others would understand a policy in having no stated policy, a policy of strategic ambiguity If you enumerate your policy, if you telegraph to the Soviets that the Strategic Defense Initiative is a ploy to get the Soviets to the bargaining table, the ploy is then made impotent."
Translation: no need to telegraph to your rivals (such as Marco Rubio) exactly what your stance is on, say, Iran. If you get too specific, they’ll pigeonhole you early on: better to have no stated policy, and play it safe.
One can almost hear the Devil whispering in Paul the Lesser’s ear: Lure in the rubes with Beckian rhetoric, and turn them into workhorses on behalf of your boundless ambition. Talk about "restraint" out of one side of your mouth, while issuing threats about "counterforce" and reminding us of that ultimate option under the proverbial table.
A more dramatic demonstration of my thesis that foreign policy is but the expression of domestic political expediencies could hardly be imagined.
This "strategic ambiguity" is supposed to be very "smart," and one can imagine the Senator’s advisors and close supporters congratulating themselves on their sheer canniness. But how "smart" is this really? If all the fawning over Israel was supposed to appease the neocons, the jeers of Jennifer Rubin – who once found a soft spot in her heart for him – and the disdain of Jonathan Tobin ought to cure him of that delusion. As for those fundamentalist shock troops he’s counting on to fight with him in the trenches, come 2016, there are plenty of suitors for their favors, and Sen. Paul is likely to win over but a small fraction, at best. Short of changing his name to Paul Rand, he’ll never convince them he isn’t his father’s son – and that is Rand Paul’s dilemma.
Because he is his father’s son, at least genetically, he was catapulted into high office in spite of his callow youth and lack of political experience. The money and human resources placed at his command were all made possible by his father’s long history as the archetypal outsider in Congress, whose principled and increasingly radical stance inspired a whole generation of young libertarians into a frenzied bout of political activism.
That he is now frittering away this promising legacy in a futile quest to recruit the looniest faction of the GOP into the service of a premature presidential run is nothing short of a tragedy. By alienating his base – his father’s hardcore supporters – and running after the fundamentalists, the Senator’s political promiscuity is bound to get him in trouble with both groups.
Paul’s advisors think they’re being "practical," but there was never such an impractical person as an opportunist with no sense of timing. Climbing on board the Glenn Beck-"global caliphate" bandwagon at precisely the time when Osama bin Laden has been eliminated and al Qaeda is on the wane, is hardly evidence of strategic genius. Paul’s marriage of George Kennan and Pamela Geller is likely to produce an offspring of limited attractiveness.
Yet this hardly matters. For most of Sen. Paul’s claque, it’s not about actually winning the GOP primaries, let alone the presidency in 2016 – a distant and I would venture impossible goal. It’s really all about the money: the big fees they’ll be paid for advising the candidate in how to sell out, and to whom, and the resources they expect to come pouring into the coffers of their various organizations. They’re already writing the fundraising letters: if you’re a libertarian reading this, expect to get one in your inbox soon, if you haven’t already.
I have paid a lot of attention Rand Paul in this space because, after all, we here at Antiwar.com are unabashed libertarians, and protecting the brand is part of my job. As a longtime supporter of his father, although never an uncritical one, it is sad for me to see the spectacle of his son turning the Paulian movement into the vehicle of his quest for self-actualization – and, in the process, lining up with some of the worst elements in the Republican party.
It is a setback for our movement, no doubt about it, but let us at least learn something from it. Let Sen. Paul’s desperate efforts to merge libertarianism with Glenn Beck-ism serve as an example of what it means to throw one’s principles to the wind. Let him serve as a negative model in the textbook of practical libertarian politics, which yet remains to be written.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
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Buy my biography of the great libertarian thinker, An Enemy of the State: The Life of Murray N. Rothbard (Prometheus Books,2000), here.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





Michele
February 7th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
I'm thrilled that Rand is NOT like his father Paul in regards to recognizing real threats from a theology & political ideology & intends to do us harm because of our lifestyle
For liberals to tout tolerance & then to embrace the most intolerant people on the plant is both hypocritical & typical!
Johnny in Wi.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
I wish Rand or someone else would just tell the Republican and Democrat leadership to go to hell and come out swinging. This country can never be saved until we throw off the yoke of the Israeli Lobby and the Military Industrial Complex. They are so entrenched and so powerful I see no light at the end of the tunnel. Playing patticake with this gang is not the answer.
MvGuy
February 7th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
"For liberals to tout tolerance & then to embrace the most intolerant people on the plant is both hypocritical & typical!"
Embrace…..??? Because we want to see our government stop KILLING them and their Children.. is a long way from an embrace….. What we embrace is balance and sanity….. Because we want to stop bleeding money chasing Islamic boogey men across the planet, doesn't mean we embrace them…. Even Glen Beck whom I'd rather not embrace…….. I certainly do not want Obama to target him and his family with a drone strike……. just because he supports Obama's (political) enemies. "war on terror" It's just a land, money and oil grab dressed up as a noble cause…. for the brain dead….
mew
February 7th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Time to bust out the blue kryptonite.
sherban
February 8th, 2013 at 3:32 am
Interventionism means isolationism .Today US ,because her policy of interventionism,or the role of the policeman of the world has a relation that a policeman has with the rest of society,every one hates him.For the large majority of the world US and Israel are the principal dangers for peace.The supporters of these deranged people like rand paul seem apparently many because their noises are reproduced by American media 24 hours every day.Never was US more isolated and never people around the world come to understand what is America,her "values",her "goodness and generosity" in brief all the garbage spread by American propaganda especially through her movie industry.The hope is that even in America exists a change expressed by the election of Obama -doesn't matter if Obama is the person waited by the public-and rejection of Romney,typical american conceited rascal belonging to "a leader nation not that of a followers".How manage these Christians to mix Christianism with war,aggressivness,crime against humanity,imperialism, should show virtuosity in hypocrisy.
klyde
February 8th, 2013 at 6:19 am
Why did you guys think Paul was anything but a right wing war party hack? Because of his last name, that's just nuts.
omop
February 8th, 2013 at 6:34 am
It would be an amazing discovery to find out that out of the over 118,000 Iraqi dead as a result of the US war that ALL of them were "radical muslims". If one were to judge by the numbers compared to the estimated 4,500 American deaths from this war one must conclude that Mr. Paul is justified.
In the other Islamic country of Afghanistan the number of American deaths during the 11 year period is estimated at around 2000. Comparing that number to the number of Afghan children killed in that period also shows a preponderance of at least a 6 to 1 ratio. Not one of those children was a non-muslim.
It may be time to ask the Grahams, McCains, Pauls and their neocon supporters if they are not as "radical" as the people they claim others to be.
Wonder
February 8th, 2013 at 6:45 am
Spare the rod, spoil the child. I wonder if its too late for Daddy to get a switch and take junior out back to the Kentucky woodshed for some teachin?
Samual
February 8th, 2013 at 6:47 am
Nader, McKinney, Stein … several have already done exactly this. Even Daddy Paul did. The problem is, that even with candidates on the ballot who do exactly what you ask, 97% of the American people keep voting for these policies. Or, at least that's what the Diebold vote counting computers tell us after each election.
SocialistSam
February 8th, 2013 at 6:48 am
You know someone failed their political education when they call Ron Paul and a right-wing, Libertarian website "liberals". Probably the same sort of person who calls Obama's Wall Street run government "socialist".
Fit
February 8th, 2013 at 6:51 am
It was amazing to hear the Paul supporters start to immediately back this Kentucky yahoo as soon as daddy retired. Its like they've never listened to a word this tea-party wannabee has said. They just see the name "Paul" and decide he's just like Daddy.
There are times when you shake one's head in amazement at what 40 years of attacks on education in this country have done to the level of comprehension in this country.
Quentin
February 8th, 2013 at 8:04 am
No, they back him because of his first name as in Ayn.
wars r u.s.
February 8th, 2013 at 8:12 am
"Paul the Lesser". Classic.
Generalissimo X
February 8th, 2013 at 9:21 am
would have been nice if his dad did the same thing in the last election and ran as an independent. at this point i wonder of the motivations of both. and rand is, quite simply, a massive tool.
@Aireck1
February 8th, 2013 at 11:35 am
We humans are funny. Hagel, the previous pro-war guy, takes some steps toward "realisim" and he's a hero. Rand Paul says some things that are departure from the purity of his father's positions and he is thus reviled, though he is MILES in front of Hagel and every other senator in almost every conceivable subject. The US would be far better off with people like Rand making decisions, yet the sane, anti-war ones spend their time throwing stones at which one?
Go figure.
Anti_Govt_Rebel
February 8th, 2013 at 11:53 am
Excellent and well written commentary on exposing Rand Paul.
What has happened is a lesson in life as well. One can't assume that the son is like the father, and i'm afraid many of us made that mistake during the political rise of Rand Paul.
With each of his steps backwards, we thought it was just a fluke. Carry on. But we now know enough about Rand Paul that we cannot consider him one of us.
Benson
February 8th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
"…intends to do us harm because of our lifestyle"
You are either a troll, or a brainwashed idiot, incapable of independent thought.
Benson
February 8th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
Rand is to Ron what Dubya is to G.H.W.B. An embarrassment.
learning
February 8th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Premature. At the Com-boxe at the Daily Paul, there is plenty of nonsupport of Rand at this point.
Most are not just going to blindly follow Rand.
Mike
February 8th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Hell I don't like either one of them. Politicians are by definition parasites.
REED RICHARDS
February 8th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Justin,
Unless you are still hungover from your Hagel love affair, Rand Paul supported Romney in the 2012 Presidential election over Ron Paul, his dad. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about Rand Paul then you simply are not paying any attention……………..
wars r u.s.
February 8th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
If Rand Paul were a nominee for sec of defense and Hagel was a senator who sold his soul to the neocon devil maybe the stones would be tossed in a different direction.
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chris
February 8th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Excellent article, once again, Justin; and briliantly funny also !!!
I wonder if Rand's courting of these morons doesn't have the more rational goal of attracting the attention of the Adelsons of the world. The rest of the Machiavelli for Dummies plan seems to be to try to snag the remnant of his father's supporters by wearing his name alone. Never mind Obama's, I want to see the original copy of Rand's birth certificate.
On a separate note, Morsi’s quoted, summary indictment by Rand and Beck, for the crime of proximity to the "radical" preacher, brings to mind Obama's own Jeremiah Wright. Even this analogy is not adequate though; because, I'd imagine you would probably have to search far and wide in the Middle East to find a "temperate" sheik w.r.t. Israel; maybe understandably enough nowadays. (nothing short of Lindsey Graham's performance at the Hagel hearings would have placated Beck)
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bob35983
February 8th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Justin, re: "The Caliphate is coming!"
I always ask people who profess to believe such if they remember what the major threat to America being hyped was – at least according to Uncle Sam – on 10 Sept 2001?
They never recall. In fact, hardly anyone recalls anything before 9/11.
Uncle Sam wasn't warning of a threatening Caliphate before 9/11; the boogie-man then was the imminent arrival of hoof and mouth disease. FEMA was discussing plans to eradicate every hoofed animal within a 17-mile arc of a contaminated site, etc.
It had to be for real; after all, it was on all the MSM news shows.
But I ain't heard tell of hoof and mouth since.
Mike
February 8th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
You know what bob? That's a really good point. Although I haven't believed anything these lying sacks of garbage in the MSM or in THE Imperial City have said for years. Why people STILL want to be conned by these criminals is beyond me.
goldhoarder
February 8th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
Yeah… I was going to say the same thing. Father Bush was an evil bastard but at least he had a brain and a bit of common sense. His son was a stinking retard. So is Rand.
Sean
February 8th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Another politician selling himself to wealthy interests. Yawn….
goldhoarder
February 8th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4
??? 118,000??? WTH. We have been at war with Iraq continuously since 1990. Over 20 years. Our death making is in the million including elderly and young because of denying Iraq chemicals to purify water and run their sanitation plants. Along with medical supplies because of supposed "dual use" purposes. Really we just wanted to kill a ton of citizens and make them desperately poor so they would cry uncle and become our slaves. Our leaders are horribly evil people.
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Mike Ehling
February 8th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Why's Randy got a problem with remembering the Battle of Karbala? After all, the Maccabean victory over the Hellenizers is commemorated by Hanukkah.
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February 9th, 2013 at 12:41 am
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liberranter
February 9th, 2013 at 1:25 am
"She's" all three.
liberranter
February 9th, 2013 at 1:27 am
It was amazing to hear the Paul supporters start to immediately back this Kentucky yahoo as soon as daddy retired. Its like they've never listened to a word this tea-party wannabee has said. They just see the name "Paul" and decide he's just like Daddy.
If Ron's movement is made up in the majority of people that shallow (and I have no doubt that there are many within it who are), then it's effectively finished.
liberranter
February 9th, 2013 at 1:30 am
Who's to say that dad didn't do that, and often, while Rand was growing up? Maybe Rand, far from learning any lessons from such thrashings, just grew up to be a stubborn, rebellious, thickheaded prick whose goal in life was to get back at Daddy for having tried to instill values within him.
liberranter
February 9th, 2013 at 1:34 am
Exactly. Rand's betrayal of his father in the last election represented, to me, the death of any credibility he had with the freedom movement and revealed him to be just another duplicitous, conniving, amoral career politician.
james
February 9th, 2013 at 2:05 am
I'd say that Ron Paul should have played with himself that fateful night instead of sleeping with Mrs Paul. We might not be having this conversation then and the world might be just that little bit brighter.
David
February 9th, 2013 at 9:35 am
It disgusts me that I ever contributed a penny to help him get elected. He should go back to examining eyes and should consider having his own head examined while he is at it. I always believed that everyone is an individual and not just some derivative of their parents, but how could this guy grow up around so much common sense and have so little of his own?
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muggles
February 9th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Good article on an important subject. Justin has always been sound on the Rand Paul question.
Of course Glen Beck also claims to be a libertarian (something Rand Paul thus far has avoided) but foreign policy and war & peace are always the stumbling blocks for wanna be libertarians.
Much easier to pander to the ignorant fools and neocon tools and the supersticious hicks back in Kentucky. Talk of the "caliphinate" Muslims is the logical equivalent of those ranting about "Crusaders" in the Middle East. Both reference the same ancient mindsets which brought the world so much peace and tranquility in the past. No modern "monsters" to trot out to scare the public (Communism all but a dead letter now) so towering intellects such as Beck, Rand Paul and their Muslim equivalents must reference the Dark Ages. Can Mongol hordes be far behind?
One can only hope Rand eventually wises up, but I fear not. Too old for a daddy spanking I suppose, but that is what is indicated …
Cynical in New York
February 9th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
Isn't cute how people still believe this bullshit lie that they hate us "for our freedoms"? Ignorance is bliss
Cynical in New York
February 9th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Which is why people like Justin, Lew Rockwell, Robert Wenzel and Adam Kokesh are attacking Rand at every turn. Rand must be exposed for the true statist that he is, he is not like his father.
Curious
February 9th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Rand is collecting a mighty fine skeleton closet for 2016. His vagueness destroys the very position he wishes to have. How can he argue against intervening everywhere or for containment in the Middle East when every Neocon and dispensationalist knows that all those Muslims are one big hive mind controlled by Ahmadinejad like one huge ant colony. How can Rand argue against a Malthusian bombing with depleted uranium on Iran that leads to birth defects and cancer when he supports Malthusian sanctions that prevent medical treatment? Right now he couldn't convincingly tell the Neocons that they shouldn't start a war in every Muslim country. How can he convince anyone otherwise when he has pretty much painted the whole Muslim world as one monolithic entity out to destroy us all. A realist seems to be capable of deeper analysis (even when flawed) than Rand Paul has shown. If he wants to have an adult conversation then he needs to show that he has some knowledge of the region he is talking about.
I suspect eugenics was purposely practiced on Iraq. People in that region are much younger so I think the West wants to thin the herd. I think the next goal is to turn Iran into Iraq prior to 2003 war and Rand seems to consent to it.
dink
February 10th, 2013 at 8:06 am
We keep getting sucked into the wrong fights: the United States of America. Ron Paul supporters need to stay on target. Mr Raimondo identifies "Beck’s dwindling fan club." Beck is a yes-man petty opportunist. A joke to real foreign policy thinking. A gift to the Obama policy team.
Its time for Rand Paul to come back to the fold. Its time for Rand Paul to purge his "advisers" as Mr Raimondo has identified them. (And hopefully will keep identifying them). It is not time for him to have grand ambitions that will continued the same failed policies of the far right GOP. Romney lost. Keeping these same advisers is a fools errand.
The foreign lobby is powerful, its Israeli-Likud incorporated. Since when are they allowed to own the Republican party?
The Iranian Revolution is not our fight. It will resolve itself of its own. Our meddling only fuels their fire (read Mr Raimondo's analysis of Iran elections). Syria is not our fight. Real Jihadist aggression like 2001 Al Queda is our fight. Direct aggression against the United States is our fight. Foreign domination (Israel) of our Congress is our fight. We like Rand Paul as long as he advances Libertarian and NATIONALIST needs of the US exclusively. Purge the advisers. Don't let the bad apples spoil the barrel of apples. Kill the cancer, not the patient.
Truth
February 10th, 2013 at 8:42 am
Rand Paul. Pander Bear.
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juschill
February 12th, 2013 at 8:52 am
I can't tell what Justin is meaning here when he writes:
"he’s talking to the folks back home in Kentucky, the same ones who rallied against the building of a mosque in their midst and worry that sharia law is coming to their town. "
You can be both against bombing them in their own countries and inviting them to come and live among us in ours. There's no reason on earth folks in Kentucky should have a mosque forced on them. While they most certainly shouldn't be advocating for invading the world it doesn't mean we should be inviting the world, either.
Also, on likening gays to Nazis … I've never met a more hateful, intolerant group of people than the gays. If there's any group that's a bunch of facists in America it's the Rainbow Shirts.
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David
February 21st, 2013 at 8:10 am
Not like his dad no, but he's a lot more like his dad than he is like George W. Bush. Rand is a constittutionalist who is good at disgusing rhetoric. Honestly, I wish he would be more like his father and just tell us exactly what he thinks, but I can tell he's condemning the neocons. Rand did support his father as well, if he was a neocon he would probably have gone with Romney, Gingrich, or Santorum from the get-go. But he supported his father until Ron had clearly lost.
I'm a noninterventionist, without exception, and I support Ron Paul much, much more strongly than I support Rand Paul, but I would absolutely vote for Rand rather than a neoconservative or liberal democrat.
David
February 21st, 2013 at 8:13 am
I think people are just disappointed because, compared to Ron Paul, Rand is a jingoistic warmongerer. But hey, a lot of people are more pro-war than Ron Paul. Very precious few are as anti-war as Ron Paul. I know a lot of people who are NOT neocons that nonetheless thought Afghanistan needed to happen. So did Ron Paul initially, although he later, rightfully, regretted it. Rand isn't as good as his father but he's a heck of a lot better than most of the others out there. I don't see his foreign policy as being much worse than Gary Johnson's. Rand isn't perfect but I'd definitely give him a chance.
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