While no one was looking, the US lost the war in Afghanistan. The announcement that joint operations involving US/NATO forces and Afghan military and police personnel will cease — “temporarily” — went down with a whimper, not a bang. Since the whole purpose of our continued presence in that country is supposedly to train the forces of Afghan “President” Hamid Karzai, the entire rationale for the war just fell apart, and isn’t it funny — as in funny-weird, rather than funny-ha-ha — that nobody noticed?
Well, not really: we’re in campaign mode, and neither major party presidential candidate is much interested in the subject of a war we’ve been fighting for over a decade, at a cost measured in the trillions (aside from the incalculable human misery). Mitt Romney is mum, and the President has more important matters to consider. Since Romney’s foreign policy team favors a policy rejected by the overwhelming majority of the American people, it’s no wonder their candidate has little to say about it. As for Obama: remember when he and his platoon of “national security Democrats” were telling us Afghanistan was the “good war”? Now that its goodness seems to have dissipated with voters, the administration would rather not remind Americans how much Obama deepened that particular quagmire.
As for the voters themselves: the same people who told pollsters they supported the war in the earlier part of the decade are now telling the same pollsters they want out. The American attention span has been getting shorter over the past decade, and if only we can get them to the point of being bored with the next war before it begins, we’ll be — literally — ahead of the game.
Speaking of losing while no one was looking: whatever happened to Iraq? Oh yes, now I remember: it became a satellite of Iran just after the US presence was officially — albeit not actually — ended. In a country where nearly 5,000 American soldiers died in a war to export “democracy,” the elected vice president is on the lam and death squads roam the streets — no, not our death squads this time.
This is yet another disaster not to be noticed or even mentioned by our political class — including not only the politicians but also the news media and the commentariat that make careers out of covering up for and sucking up to Official Washington. The policy wonks, the Approved Pundits, the publicists and professional agitators of the left and the right — when will we hear a peep out of any them about these dismal and costly failures? After the election? My guess: never.
And that’s just how the War Party likes it. They don’t want anyone asking uncomfortable questions about future wars, especially the looming conflict just around the next corner. (Turn right at Election Day, and head straight to Tehran.) But my question is broader, and it’s this: when was the last time the US actually won a war?
No, no, I don’t mean Grenada, fer chrissake: I mean a real honest-to-goodness all-out bang ‘em up war, with an opponent who had at least a fighting chance. Before the recent spate of attempted conquests, there was Vietnam — a flat out defeat: and Korea — a draw. On a smaller scale, none of the “anti-communist” insurgencies we sponsored in the 1980s in Nicaragua and El Salvador succeeded in producing anything but trouble for us and untold misery for the inhabitants of those unfortunate countries — all in all, our efforts in Central and South America during the cold war era amounted to the Bay of Pigs writ large.
In order to tout a war that can be counted as an unambiguous American victory we have to go all the way back to World War II. However, even this undoubted military triumph had its Pyrrhic aspect. Since it launched us on an interventionist course that landed us where we are today — teetering on the edge of bankruptcy and hated around the world — the original Good War was, arguably, the great-grandaddy of all the defeats to come.
Conservatives credit Ronald Reagan and “Star Wars” for supposedly “winning” the cold war, but we didn’t win a single battle in that fifty-year global conflict. In reality, the Soviets defeated themselves — in the economic realm, where their centrally-planned economy proved inadequate to the task of providing basic necessities, and on the battlefield in Afghanistan, where they were beaten by the same forces that threw out the British and have finally defeated us.
If the US is an empire, as anti-interventionists (and the more honest interventionists) describe it, then it is a hollow one. Our much-vaunted military might is a myth. We haven’t won a war in over sixty years: what is supposedly the mightiest war-making machine on earth has been out-fought and out-maneuvered by a rag-tag bunch of Taliban bandits and two-bit local warlords. They call us the “hyperpower” — a role which seems to mean we’re at the constant beck and call of our allies, all of them employing very active Washington lobbyists. Bedeviled by our friends, reviled by our enemies, and envied (and resented) by all, America has no friends in the world — only clients, dependents, and targets.
To top it off, we’re out of money — and the US economy, the engine and motive power of the Last Superpower’s alleged invincibility, is showing signs of structural instability. If the whole edifice collapses tomorrow, who will be surprised?
As Washington’s lords and ladies bask in the unreal glory of America’s imperial delusion, and look forward to yet another exciting coronation ceremony this winter, the peasants with pitchforks are gathering in the shadow of the castle, their voices rising above the ordinary din generated by our chattering classes. The American people are waking up to the reality, even if our elites are not, and it is a rude awakening indeed. Fired, foreclosed, and fed up, they have had it up to here with the pretensions of our would-be Napoleons and world policemen in both parties. They don’t understand why we’re shipping billions — billions! — of our tax dollars overseas, to Libya, where they’re killing our diplomats, to Egypt, where they’re trying to burn down our embassy, and to Israel, where they’re trying to blackmail us into fighting yet another war on their behalf.
When will it end? It’s a race between the growing anger out in the hinterlands and the growing debt that is destroying our economy. As to which will reach the boiling point first — heck, I’m not Nostradamus, just a humble internet columnist.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Edward Snowden vs. the Sovietization of America – June 18th, 2013
- A Note to My Readers – June 16th, 2013
- Datagate and the Death of American Liberalism – June 13th, 2013
- Smear Brigade Goes After Snowden – June 11th, 2013
- Edward Snowden, American Hero – June 9th, 2013





JLS
September 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
"If the whole edifice collapses tomorrow, who will be surprised?"
Pretty much everybody. Most Americans have absolutely no clue about our national debt or what it might mean. Democrats, Republicans have no clue and our idiot media refuse to even report on it so the public just stays ignorant and under the illusion that the party can go on forever.
BIN SAFI
September 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Just like Justin, I'm Aware of ALL of their Atrocities!
Our Common Enemy, is WAR!!
Peace, Love & Respect.
BIN SAFI
September 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Just like Justin, I'm Aware of ALL of their Atrocities!
Our Common Enemy, is WAR!!
Peace, Love & Respect.
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richard vajs
September 24th, 2012 at 5:03 am
America is terminally corrupt. Our elite are just trying to sweep up every nickel and dime they can, while they can; while the plebes dream and scheme of winning the lottery or latching onto a Social Security Disability check. One should note that our Founders Fathers pledged "their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honors" and today we have a guy wanting to be President while keeping his secret Swiss bank account. A banana republic has nothing on us.
omop
September 24th, 2012 at 5:53 am
So the USA joins the British and the Russians in losing a war against a bare footed cave dwelling Muslims/Afghans thousands of miles away from their home states. Except that the cost to the US is fewer deaths than the British and Russians in deaths and crippled young men and women but a close to $3 trillion cost.
Since we are "the present" is it not time to demand as to the "raison d'etre" of why we are still in Afghanistan and or why there in the first place?
Kudos Mr. R.
Bruce Richardson
September 24th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Excellent post Justin! It never ceases to amaze me that Afghanistan is continually termed "the hub of international terrorism" by administration spokespeople. Afghanistan played no role in 9/11. The decision to invade Afghanistan was revealed months prior to 9/11. At a conference inn Berlin, US officials informed Pakistan's Secretary Niaz Naik that "we will attack Afghanistan before the snow flies in October," our stated justification for invading and occupying Afghanistan. Failing Trans-Afghan-Pipeline (TAP) negotiations with the Taliban is the motive-force considered by more and more people as behind the violent and multi trillion dollar decision to attack Afghanistan for regime-change during the summer of 2001 and thus a successful negotiation for a US firm (UNOCAL) to secure the deal with a US-friendly regime.
betty
September 24th, 2012 at 7:57 am
There was still fighting going on in Afghanistan for control of the country and I remember reading it was that fighting that was putting delays on the pipeline. The Northern Alliance was fighting the Taliban.
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charles caruso
September 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Didn't Jefferson whup them Barbary pirates? So there!
Mark
September 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am
"A banana republic has nothing on us. "
Except they may actually be a republic and they do have bananas…who doesn't LOVE bananas?
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Lorraine
September 24th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Perhaps the underlying lkesson (one of several) is that war is an anacronism. The sooner we all realize that, the sooner the human race can get on to dealing with its other problems like poverty and hunger. And the end of the world as we know it, circa December 21st, 2012. Oh wait, we are all in agreement that the Mayans were actually predicting the end of our empire, right? Dig a well, stock up on seeds and staples, and get ready for the revolution.
Benjacomin Bozart
September 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am
We won the Drug War. The corporate prisons are full. Police forces have been militarized and feed victims into the prisons to keep the profits flowing. The military has a new command just to run the US for the state if anyone gets out of line.
By we I men the state. The people are screwed but they drank the kool aid and mutter, "it's ok because it makes us safe," every time they get groped or strip off at an air port. With people like this it's no wonder we can't win a real war.
Benjacomin Bozart
September 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am
We won the Drug War. The corporate prisons are full. Police forces have been militarized and feed victims into the prisons to keep the profits flowing. The military has a new command just to run the US for the state if anyone gets out of line.
By we I men the state. The people are screwed but they drank the kool aid and mutter, "it's ok because it makes us safe," every time they get groped or strip off at an air port. With people like this it's no wonder we can't win a real war.
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pbj
September 24th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
"the peasants with pitchforks are gathering in the shadow of the castle, their voices rising above the ordinary din generated by our chattering classes"
Colorful language but this is 2012 not 1775. Americans are to passive, apathetic and ignorant to want to seriously change things
MoT
September 24th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Justin, the war was lost while in plain sight. And as someone recently opined on another web site, "The day we lost the war in Afghanistan" was the day we first set foot in there. It's only taken this long to accept the defeat prearranged over a decade ago.
MoT
September 24th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Justin, the war was lost while in plain sight. And as someone recently opined on another web site, "The day we lost the war in Afghanistan" was the day we first set foot in there. It's only taken this long to accept the defeat prearranged over a decade ago.
johnUK
September 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
It was inevitable the USSR would collapse due to its economic policy and it geopolitical challenge that it had to finance and keep in check due police state means but I think the US did a good job of keeping the USSR from fragmenting and being embroiled in ethnic conflict with a few noticeable exceptions like every other empire in history.
It was Reagan that offered the Soviets economic cooperation and a joint missile shield program with LaRouches SDI that the USSR turned down.
johnUK
September 24th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
The Afghan war is pretty comical. We spend billions fighting and looking for Bin Ladin including giving aid to Pakistan for its cooperation in fighting Al Qaeda with some noticeable successes like the capture of KSM only to find out that they were actively harbouring and shielding him from NATO/US.
byrd_bahls22
September 24th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
The graveyard of empires (large and small) claims yet, another aggressive, deluded victim. Uncle Sam is ready for the headstone. Let's have the Chinese build it, AND the watering can that will irrigate any cacti that sprout up with red, white, and blue spikes.
betty
September 24th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Well people have only been taught for decades by the left intellectuals that they are no better than the dirt on the bottom of their shoe. Some will be taught that humans are animals, nothing special about them, cats and dogs should have the same rights as humans. Humans are killing the planet, specifically if they live in the west. Humans shouldn't have children, the world has too many people, some even hope for depopulation.
(not enough people in detroit: http://reason.com/archives/2012/09/22/immigrants-…
davidgrayling
September 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Justin, the problem is not to do with winning a war but how much money can you make from a jolly good war?
Follow the money and you'll find out who won the war. Methinks the Oligarchs and the Corporations have won most wars while the proles thought they died for their country.
davidgrayling
September 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Justin, the problem is not to do with winning a war but how much money can you make from a jolly good war?
Follow the money and you'll find out who won the war. Methinks the Oligarchs and the Corporations have won most wars while the proles thought they died for their country.
BBB
September 24th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
I thought this article was good, as are all of Justin Raimondo's articles, he is a great writer. The only thing I could have done without was the use of the word "chrissake", I thought that was unnecessary and detracted from the article.
Outsider
September 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Excellent article, Justin. However, it seems to me that you are resigned to war with Iran no matter who wins in Nov ("turn right at Election Day, and head straight to Tehran"). You are more knowledgable than I and may be right, but are you being too fatalistic? I may be naive, but continue to believe that there is a difference between Obama and Romney (Bibi's candidate) on the war issue.
Obama has, hopefully, learned a lot in his first term. As it now seems inevitable that he will get a second (what a dreadful candidate Romney has turned out to be!), I remain cautiously optimistic that Obama, no lapdog to Israel, will become more resolute when dealing with the MI/Security complex in a second term. As he will then be playing for the history books instead of reelection, I can't believe that he wants an illegal war with Iran (and possibly WW3) as his legacy.
Outsider
September 24th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Excellent article, Justin. However, it seems to me that you are resigned to war with Iran no matter who wins in Nov ("turn right at Election Day, and head straight to Tehran"). You are more knowledgable than I and may be right, but are you being too fatalistic? I may be naive, but continue to believe that there is a difference between Obama and Romney (Bibi's candidate) on the war issue.
Obama has, hopefully, learned a lot in his first term. As it now seems inevitable that he will get a second (what a dreadful candidate Romney has turned out to be!), I remain cautiously optimistic that Obama, no lapdog to Israel, will become more resolute when dealing with the MI/Security complex in a second term. As he will then be playing for the history books instead of reelection, I can't believe that he wants an illegal war with Iran (and possibly WW3) as his legacy.
Debbie(aussie)
September 24th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
'We haven’t won a war in over sixty years: ' and thats just the way the PTB like it. This conitual war against '_______" is perfect for making money, projecting power, keeping the prols in fear etc etc…..
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slim shady
September 25th, 2012 at 11:45 am
How is it that people who hate material things can see someone else as being in poverty, what are they poor of; material things? I think I will let you deal with the human race, you could start by telling others to get their hand out of other people's pockets, and allow us to keep what we earn, that way we won't be supporting despots in far off lands who starve their own people.
Fred
September 28th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I do believe Americans are increasingly bored with the Iran War…..which hasnt *officially* started yet.
disillusioned
September 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Don't bet on Obama bucking the MIC. He is just another mouthpiece for the MIC as are all US presidents. The one who even came close to bucking it, JFK was swiftly disposed of (you don't think Oswald could have pulled off that one by himself?) What can I say, a misinformed –and gullible public coupled with a savvy brutal oligarchy—the results are plainly for everyone to see.