The Partisan Temptation
US foreign policy and presidential politics
It always seems like the presidential horse race starts earlier than in the previous election season: no sooner is our quadrennial agony over then the pundits start placing their bets on a fresh crop of colts, calculating the odds. This sped-up process is due to the degeneration of our old Republic into an Empire in everything but name: with the onset of empire, and the concomitant [.pdf] expansion of presidential power, the question of who sits in the Oval Office is the essential political question.
This is especially true in the realm of foreign policy, where the President’s role as commander-in-chief takes on immense importance: ever since Congress ceded its war-making power to Harry Truman, who sent US troops to Korea without bothering to ask Congress, the President has functioned as a one-man arbiter of when we go to war and when we don’t. Our descent into Caesarism proceeded from that point, and with astounding speed. The task of the contemporary anti-interventionist movement is to arrest that institutional drift and roll it back to the original intent of the Founders, who feared and hated militarism and the autocratic politics that go with it.
So how do we do it? What, as Lenin asked, is to be done?
The seemingly logical answer is that we run, or get behind, a presidential candidate of our own, one who will restore the Constitution and put the White House in its proper place. Yet this project presents us with some pretty formidable obstacles, not the least of which are the institutional and legal impediments to any such restoration.
One major roadblock on the road to peace is the essentially contradictory nature of such an effort. The office of the presidency has become so bloated, so invested with symbolic meaning and legal authority, that no one who wins it is likely to curtail its power. Indeed, given human nature, we have every reason to expect precisely the opposite: upon taking office, any and all presidents have so far sought to increase, rather than diminish, that power, to expand presidential prerogatives as far as the public and the current law of the land finds tolerable. As a corollary to the old dictum that no ruling class has ever given up its power voluntarily we can add that no chief executive of the United States – or any other nation on earth – has curtailed his own authority.
Yes, but – I can hear the skeptics even before I’ve finished making my argument – our candidate will be different. Our candidate – fill in the blank with whatever name occurs to you – will carry out the mandate of the voters, and we’ll be on our way to a more peaceful world shortly.
I have my doubts, and not just due to my view of human nature: for, given that we’ve elected a pro-peace candidate to the highest office in the land, what would our champion have to do in order to implement his or her program? In the course of this struggle, quite naturally he or she would encounter the paradox of power: that any attempt to steer the ship of state in a radically different direction necessarily requires that the Captain is absolutely in charge. “Oh, we’re only doing this in order to achieve this-or-that immediate objective,” the President and his supporters will invariably assert over the objections of their disappointed followers. “Don’t worry, eventually we’ll return to our original path and program. We have to do this in order to win in the long run. You have to be practical!”
Speaking of disappointed followers: this precise pattern has been replicated to a tee by the Obama administration, which has split its most fervent supporters by escalating the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan, bombing Libya, and going beyond even its predecessors in asserting and defending (in court) the imperial prerogatives of the presidency. Anyone surprised by this has to be comatose: after all, the leitmotif of the Obama campaign, then and now, has been a self-proclaimed and prideful pragmatism, i.e. opposition to principled politics as such. Especially when it comes to the question of war and peace, this gives the Obama-ites maximum flexibility in the policy realm, and an advantage in making the political argument that Democrats – because of their identity as the Mommy Party – have to “overcome” their recent history of opposition to Republican wars before the electorate trusts them enough to hand them the keys to the White House.
And now that they have those keys, however temporarily, the Democrats in power have acted just like their Republican predecessors: indeed, in some horrific alternate universe, where third term President George W. Bush is in charge of US foreign policy, it is hard to imagine what Dubya is doing differently.
Having risen from the junior ranks of the Senate to the dizzying heights of the Imperial Presidency in large part due to Americans’ war-weariness, Barack Obama has taken them into fresh conflicts, with the promise – or, rather, threat – of more to come. How did this happen – and how is the administration getting away with it?
The answer, I believe, is in the polls, and specifically a recent Public Policy poll:
“Our most recent national poll found that only 27% of Americans supported the military intervention in Libya to 40% who were opposed and 33% who had no opinion. Democrats only narrowly stand behind the President in supporting the action in Libya, 31/28. Meanwhile Republicans (21/51) and independents (29/42) are considerably more unified in their opposition.”
The good news is that Americans, in their majority, are following their natural “isolationist” impulses and that a good number of Democrats are rebelling against their own leadership. The bad news comes when we discover:
“Libya doesn’t seem likely to be a big vote shifter next year- 52% of voters say it won’t make a difference in their decision on whether to support Obama for reelection or not. But for the voters who do say it could be a game change it’s a negative- 31% say what’s going on in Libya right now make them less likely to vote for Obama compared to only 17% who say it makes them more likely to vote for him.”
To begin with, the idea that the Libyan intervention can be isolated as a discrete event, and voters’ reaction to it accurately gauged, is a scientistic conceit. Asked their opinion about our latest Middle East meddling, the context of the question has to be accounted for when considering the responses. The real meaning of these poll numbers is that, on top of all the other ways in which this administration has escalated US military action throughout the world, this latest intervention makes 31 percent less likely to vote for Obama. Not good for the Obama-ites, but not a disaster, either. Now let’s go deeper into the results:
In terms of ideology, 19 percent of those who consider themselves “very liberal” support Obama’s Libyan adventure, and the number goes way up to 42 percent when we’re talking about those who see themselves as “somewhat liberal.” 32 percent of self-described “moderates” support the President’s Libya policy, and the numbers go down when we get into the conservative zone: the conservative somewhats and the Tea Party types are17 percent and 18 percent respectively. 49 percent of “very liberal” voters are opposed to the Libyan intervention, but a mere 14 percent say Obama’s latest foreign policy move makes them less likely to vote for him. So he gets to keep his base intact – yes, even after all those drone strikes, the incursion into Pakistan, and now Libya.
Look at the astonishing turnabout made by the activist core of the Democratic party on foreign policy matters: even among the “very liberal” types, nearly 20 percent support the policy and 32 percent are “not sure.” In a swathe of the population that filled the streets with picket signs proclaiming “Bush Lied, People Died!”, this is an about-face that pays tribute to the hypnotic power of partisan politics, and specifically to the distorting influence of our two-party system on the foreign policy debate.
As long as our politics are defined in terms of Team Blue and Team Red, and these arrangements are encoded in law, real change of any sort, never mind a radical reversal of our interventionist foreign policy, is next to impossible. The reason is that the “pragmatists” in the two parties can always count on their respective bases to back them no matter what they do – that, at least, has been the case up until now, and this operating principle extends especially when we get to foreign policy.
The liberal base of the Democratic party has basically made a pact with the Devil in which they agree to forget about all those foreigners being killed overseas, in return for a package of goodies on the home front: and the Obama-ites have certainly gone out of their way to reward their loyalists. The liberals have, in short, sold out, quite literally – and at a very reduced price. Instead of single-payer health care they got a corporate bailout and more money in the pockets of the President’s favorite crony-capitalists, but hey, what the heck, let’s get practical. It takes lots of crony capitalist money to run a presidential campaign. And besides that, what if the Republicans get back in power – do you want that?
This argument always wins the day in “progressive” circles, no matter how committed to non-interventionism some of these folks may be, in theory: it works like a charm every time.
And the reason it works is because these antiwar progressives have nowhere else to go. They can stay home on election day, but in the end most of these people are too politicized to stand on the sidelines. When push comes to shove, they’ll come out for their guy – if only because of the quite rational fear of what the Other Guy will do once he gets in office.
The same electoral calculus operates in an identical manner on the right, where a full 65 percent of those who see themselves as “very conservative” oppose US intervention in Libya. Yet how many of these very same folks voted for Senator John McCain, who is fresh back from Libya proclaiming his undying support for the rebels and demanding we go in guns blazing? Many of these same people have suddenly decided they are sick and tired of the war in Afghanistan, and are wondering when we’re going to be on our way out of that mess – and yet they cheered Bush on when he launched these disastrous wars, and demonized anyone who opposed the policy as a “pro-terrorist.”
This system that favors warfare has succeeded because it has created a war at home, too: a low-level war, one that doesn’t very often erupt in violence, but a war just the same in the sense that an athletic event pitting two teams against each other is a simulation of two armies locked in combat. This trend has accelerated, of late, to the point where everyone is bemoaning the grave lack of “civility” in the national discourse, and this growing gulf between the two teams has given rise to radical shifts in public opinion on foreign policy issues in particular.
If Team Red is fighting a war overseas, then it’s their war, they own it, and it’s okay for Team Blue to oppose it, at least after the usual rally-‘round-the-President effect has worn off. However, if Team Blue is in power – as it is today – then suddenly the base moves into the interventionist camp. Principles they once held dear and proclaimed at the top of their lungs are suddenly inoperative, as if a switch has been pulled: this is true for many, even most, on occasion – but not all.
This is where there are signs of hope for the anti-interventionist movement. For a certain percentage of those who protested against the wars of the previous administration are so lacking in team spirit that they are willing to break with the rest over an issue they consider vitally important. As successive Presidents involve us in multiple interventions, and the tide of public opinion goes this way and that, these stalwarts slowly accumulate their numbers, which are increased due to their own independent nonpartisan efforts.
In short, having started out as opponents of “Bush’s war,” or “Obama’s war,” these types wind up opposing wars of aggression as a matter of principle. The empty promises of the “pragmatic” politicians don’t interest them: indeed, they find the whole charade offensive.
Which brings me to the moral of this story, and it is this: put not your trust in partisan politics. There is no hope there, at least not under the present two-party system. Rome, in the era of its prolonged decline, had two great political parties, the patricians and the plebeians, or, in the Byzantine version, the Greens and the Blues, which were closely associated with teams of chariot racers. The two-party system, in and of itself, is a symptom of decadence: it represents the degeneration of politics from a civic duty into an entertainment. Donald Trump’s candidacy underscores how relevant this analysis is to our present day condition.
As we are pulled, under protest, into the presidential election season, it is essential to keep this lesson in mind. Yes, we can and must win at the ballot box, but those efforts can only take us so far – and, at this point, that isn’t very far. With the political system rigged the way it is, the ability of the two major parties to retain the support of their respective bases – barring some radical rupture in the fabric of society itself – is a nearly insuperable obstacle. We cannot and will not reverse America’s slide into Caesarism in the next election, or the one after that: we must take the long view. That means taking advantage of political conditions to educate and retain the loyalty of those who resist the partisan temptation.
That’s what we’re doing here at Antiwar.com – and we’ve been doing it since 1995. Consistently, vocally, and without partisan favor. The only road forward is building a peace movement independent of the two parties – and, I might add, even more than a little contemptuous of them. By all means, become politically active for the candidates of your choice – but don’t be fooled into thinking that this can fundamentally change the way foreign policy is conducted in Washington. That will take a much more sustained and grueling struggle.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Common Fallacies About
Anti-Interventionism – February 21st, 2012 - The Big One Cometh – February 19th, 2012
- Voting Out the War Party? – February 16th, 2012
- The Pentagon’s Lie Machine – February 14th, 2012
- What Now? – February 12th, 2012





MoT
April 26th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
It is this bi-factional one-party mentality amongst the populace and their propagandist organs.. i.e. The Major Media, that drives me nuts. Sometimes I wish we had some form of parliamentary government where at least the illusion of change were more frequent..
Oswaldwasalefty
April 27th, 2011 at 2:01 am
"So how do we do it? What, as Lenin asked, is to be done?"
I don't know, create a party of professional revolutionaries to lead the working class to the light of the revolution? Just kidding.
"…We cannot and will not reverse America’s slide into Caesarism in the next election, or the one after that: we must take the long view….
"…By all means, become politically active for the candidates of your choice – but don’t be fooled into thinking that this can fundamentally change the way foreign policy is conducted in Washington. That will take a much more sustained and grueling struggle."
While I agree with Justin here, it is important to note that we could be wrong. Speaking of Lenin, I recall reading part of the transcript of a speech of his given in exile a few years before the Russian Revolution. He said that people his age would not live to see a revolution in Russia, but that a future generation will. Of course, Lenin is a good reminder of the counterproductive and destructive turn a revolution can take when an anti-democratic usurper comes along and claims ownership of the revolution for his faction. Of course, you're comparing apples to oranges when speaking of the U.S. of today and Czarist Russia. The U.S. state of today makes just about any state look like a 110lb. weakling, so the task of changing its imperial course will be much more difficult, indeed.
The lesson of history is that revolutionary upheavals can happen at any time, and to be weary of the ambitions of the leaders who head any revolutionary movement.
Wootie Berster
April 27th, 2011 at 4:14 am
No, Grady, it's true. JR runs Antiwar w/o excluding anyone. But surely he's allowed to state his own position in his own column. I absolutely respect that. Antiwar is my second read every morning for very good reasons.. the quality of the commentary (and the comments) in the main but secondarily for the extensive news stories. I personally don't agree with JR's liking for right-libertarianism, Ron/Rand Paul, Ayn Rand, Mises, Rothbard, etc. BUT so what? If he likes the tea party, so what? It doesn't detract from the quality of his commentary. In fact by clearly announcing his position on things he makes his commentary eminently valuable by providing a political location for it and provides me an instant snapshot of what a certain educated, intelligent slice of the "blogosphere" is thinking every morning. Sorry, Grady, but your use of the word "vomit" is rather too much considering JR provides us with the best news/commentary site on the internet.
RED DAVE
April 27th, 2011 at 4:40 am
Justin is (a) constantly chasing after some kind of meaningful right-wing antiwar tendency, which doesn't exist; (b) he constantly confuses, deliberately and consciously, the difference between liberalism and the left, and (c) he ignores social issues as if they have no effect on an antiwar movement.
What is the point of this? The last thing that Justin wants is an independent left-wing antiwar movement, which would expose that conservatism is at the heart of US war making, just like liberalism. That's why he has ignored the developments in Wisconsin, which have the potential for a new, labor-based movement. After all the bluster and noise, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Dennis Kucinich and that pseudo-socialist Bernie Sanders, willingly bed down with the members of their parties, who are having a great time with three wars at once.
emsnews
April 27th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Justin has been steadily poisoning the well when it comes to being partisan. He is tremendously partisan which is why he cannot see how he is betrayed, himself, over and over again. Anyone who thinks CAPITALISTS are not totally responsible for imperialism…geeze! They adore imperialism!
Why, may we ask? Easy answer: they need foreign sources of cheap labor or slaves, foreign sources of commodities such as oil, copper, verdant fields of grain, etc. They need to use national banks as a basis for creating international loans which they exploit to use to either buy up all resources and labor or to fund imperialist wars.
The great wars against communists ended with the communists becoming very aggressive capitalists and now they are crushing the earlier capitalists in international competition. China, still run by the communist party quite spectacularly successful, is closing in on the US and will probably be the world's #1 economy in 10 years.
So, this evolving socialist state will wipe us off the economic map? HAHAHA. And Justin can't figure out why or how. It isn't due to Beijing being a devotee of 'teeny-tiny governments' is it?
Terrance&Philip
April 27th, 2011 at 6:18 am
"It always seems like the presidential horse race starts earlier than in the previous election season: no sooner is our quadrennial agony over then the pundits start placing their bets on a fresh crop of colts, calculating the odds."
Perhaps, because like the ponies, each new crop of candidates is almost entirely full of s__t ? Only in a society on a rapid downward slide could mediocrities like Poppy and Jr. Bush and Messrs. Clinton and Obama become president.
Johnny in Wi.
April 27th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Red Dave: What is happening in Wi. is that We the people are taking this state back from the far left union goons and university professors that have run this state into the grounds for decades. It is a revolution alright by the fed up taxpayers and working people of this stae who have had enough of incompetent guys like Feingold, and Doyle. 100 years of Progressive rule have left this state and nation bankrupt. The real revolution is on the right. There will be a viable fighting antiwar candidate for the Republican nomination this year. Where is there an anti war candidate on the left? All over the world the socialist-communist model has failed. China only got going when it dumped Marx and Lenin and went back to Adam Smith. The public employees of this country and the military indutrial complex have looted this country for decades. The peoples money and patience has run out.
Dan
April 27th, 2011 at 8:36 am
I know it's easier to be pessemistic here than it is to "take the long view", but I fear Justin may be giving the electorate too much credit. I think this red team/blue team thing will continue indefinitely. The electorate doesn't care about what happens "over there" and they do not seem able to draw any correlation with the effects on things here (the economy). I have watched as some pretty bright people get sucked into the partisan battle again and again with seemingly no regonition of their hypocrisy. It is like the Twilight Zone. But thanks for the ray of sunlight Justin, you rock.
Sam
April 27th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
There is a serious debt crisis in the west and it would be not honest and human to make people abroad scapegoats or more wars and crisis.
robt
April 27th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Not usually typos at AntiWar, but:
… placing their bets on a fresh crop of colts …
should be:
… placing their bets on a fresh crop of dolts …
Sam
April 27th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
The money the dictators stole from their people, tunisian,egyptian,libyan, african people is all invested in the west. You wonder why Africa is poor.
Mark W. Stroberg
April 27th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Red Dave,
Give me a break. Ron Paul does not "bed down" with members of the GOP. He was the most consistent and vocal critic of Bush in Congress during the eight years of GW's regime. He is so anti-war that he would have opposed the Civil War and possibly WWII. Justin showed tremendous self-restraint in not tooting Ron's Horn. Perhaps he did this because he doesn't believe Ron Paul has a chance, or maybe he is just trying not to Jinx it.
Sam
April 27th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Stealing libyan's or other's wealth would not solve the debt crisis too.
Dan Raphael
April 27th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Look, we all have things to disagree about. That's fine. What is *not* fine is that we allow our very real disagreements to allow the empire to continue…election after election, year after year, decade upon decade. This is not a "holding pattern," but a downward slope that is taking *all* of us–left, right, or whatever–into the sink of tyranny. It is no accident that the decades have increasingly produced an ever-more "imperial" Presidency and an electorate fixated on brand-name voting. It takes *courage* and *persistence* to break from this, because it can *always* be said "See! Look there! The real agenda is X, Y, and Z, and all this stuff about war is just a distraction!" There is no way to overcome this, other than by tackling it head on. I believe this is what Mr. Raimondo has done in this excellent analytical piece, and I am substantially in agreement with him. The future may not be rosy with Ron Paul (or whoever will dismantle the Empire), but it *will* provide the *chance* we don't have on the current left-right-left-right march towards economic, social, and political breakdown. We have *got* to try something different–really, basically different. We have got to get over our "nyah-nyah, nyah-nyah, nyaaaah-nyah" infantilism–for the sake of our nation and also all the wretched people we kill and terrorize abroad.
Johnny in Wi.
April 27th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Ha Ha Ha Davie: The lower house of the Sate of Massacusetts has just voted by a large majority to strip the municipal unioins of their right to negotiate onthere heathcare plans. Even the liberal democrats in Mass have had enough of the gold platted union programs. The country is broke and both the warmongers and rthe union goons are responsible for most of it. It is time for a real revolution of the taxpayers. That is the only thing that is going to change anything.
RED DAVE
April 27th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
(1) The heart of what happened in Wisconsin was/is a mass movement based on unions, especially civil service unions, especially teachers. You don't know what's going on in your own state.
(2) The reason why Wisconsin is out of money is because your right-wing government gave tax breaks to the rich, instead of taxing them.
(3) As to the rest of your redbaiting rant, you're in the tradition of another Wisconsinite, Joe McCarthy.
RED DAVE
April 27th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
I am a leftist, not a liberal. I expect the Democrats to do things like because they're nothing more than the other side of the bed the Republicans are inhabiting.
ronin1776
April 27th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
A rational and enlightened approach to politics is next to impossible in a kleptocracy cum electronic mob democracy such as exists in the former United States. Plato and Aristotle had it right in calling for limited states run by an enlightened aristocracy, limited nation-states and city-states. There will never be a consensus in a polyglot internal empire of many tribes such as we have at present. This debate about war vs. peace, the Green chariot party vs. the blues, the Blue states vs. the Red states, my team uber alles, will become moot as the internal Empire fragments – as it must. You can regard it as a Toynbeean inevitability, or as the result of Original Sin, and the effect will be the same. As Lenin said, it must get worse in order to get better. The denizens of the former United States can only hope that the dissolution process occurs relatively peacefully, as in the breakup of the former Soviet Union. The masses in this country will never learn to hate war until the devastation of war has been visited upon them. Lotsa bad karma in this country.
guest
April 27th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
McCarthy? Sheesh! That didn't take long. Does "Godwins Law" apply here?
MoT
April 27th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Well said Dan. I'm so sick and tired of Republicans and Democrats, a pox on both their evil houses, and the limp dick voters who know nothing more than the talking points their respective parties spoon feed them. When I have a so-called "conversation" with either end of this robotic spectrum, it devolves into some mutated script straight off the boob tube. Do these dolts ever think? Friends of mine say I should be more merciful for the ignorance people display seeing as I myself was the same but its damn hard.
MoT
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
It is sadly true. The national memory of past atrocities in our nation have been buried and forgotten. Until it revisits us, and waters our soil with blood and tears, the people will bumble along mindlessly.
GradyWilson
April 28th, 2011 at 2:45 am
Has Justin and antiwar.com really resisted the temptation of partisanship? He's advocated for the Tea Party, Ron Paul, and is a John Bircher. He went on a speaking tour which just happened to be during the 2010 campaign season where he praised the Tea Partiers. He obviously hates the Left on a visceral level. He and his fellow staff and right wing fascist posters attack any antiwar poster who is a leftist, deletes their posts (like they did mine in this thread) despite the fact that the posts contained nothing but facts, quotes, and honest opinion without any of the repulsive personal attacks which are leveled at leftists on this site.
Honestly, why don't you at antiwar.com allow for leftist voices in this forum – as you claim that you do? Is this site and forum only for far right partisans? Seems like it.
GradyWilson
April 28th, 2011 at 2:55 am
Raimodo succumbs to "partisan temptation";
from the right wing Daily Caller site;
"John Birch Society reborn in Tea Party movement? http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/29/john-birch-soci…
Birchers still maintain their belief that Eisenhower was a communist….
Antiwar.com editorial director Justin Raimondo, a John Birch Society supporter who has written about the John Birch Society in depth……
Raimondo thinks the Tea Party movement is the rebirth of the John Birch Society. Raimondo says both are populist conservative movements and both are, in general, attacked by the media…. "
Poor widdle TeaPartiers and John Birchers are "attacked by the media". So sad. Too bad the opposite is actually true – TeaPartiers get huge positive spin in the corporate media as opposed to leftist groups who protest in much greater numbers. But Justin just loves to play the victim card. Not surprising since he finds homosexuals having second class citizen status 'erotic' and argues (as a homosexual) against the right of gays to marry.
Does anyone really believe that antiwar.com and Justin Raimondo have resisted "The Partisan Temptation" and is "without partisan favor" as Justin deceitfully claims? Can you articulate an argument without attacking me personally or deleting my posts?
GradyWilson
April 28th, 2011 at 4:00 am
"JR runs Antiwar w/o excluding anyone" – Wootie
Well he deleted the post which you responded to. That is exclusion isn't it?
Otherwise I tend to agree with most of your post. But Raimondo should not claim to be above partisan temptation and claim that antiwar.com is without partisan favor should he? That is not honest. He is a right winger. He has advocated for the Tea Party Republicans and Ron Paul obviously. He is a John Bircher. He is a far right free market advocate. He is a confederate sympathizer. He is a hater of the Left. He does oppose gay marriage. He most certainly has the right to hold those opinions. But he can't hold them and then claim he's beyond "partisan temptation" and without "partisan favor" without some intellectually honest readers wanting to figuratively "vomit".
GradyWilson
April 28th, 2011 at 4:51 am
Johnny, have you noticed that your Tea Partiers are gobbling up corporate lobbyists' campaign cash at unprecedented rates? Do you really still contend that these TP's are revolutionary anti-war types? When are they going to oppose Pentagon spending and warmongering like you claimed? Never. You have been played for a fool.
OT – here's a good article arguing vey persuasively of the immorality inherent in religion: http://www.alternet.org/belief/150742/one_more_re….
"Respected Theologian Defends Genocide and Infanticide"
New Spirit Jazz
April 28th, 2011 at 4:58 am
About all that "gay marriage" stuff: Sorry, guys, but that thing is absurd. Marriage is a mistake for heteros and homos alike.
Why are gays so hellbent on importing that mistake into their lives? Marriage ruins lives. It's a prison. Murders originate in marriage and marriage leads to murder.
Gay people: Be free! Don't listen to the tricksters. When they say they give you "more rights" when you are "married to someone", that is just a trick to make you play their game.
But well. It's just another part of a thoroughly fucked up society.
emsnews
April 28th, 2011 at 5:10 am
Only Justin doesn't 'rock'. He is outright lying right now since he is personally quite partisan and it may appear invisible to libertarians but it is shocking bright colors to those antiwar people like myself on the left.
emsnews
April 28th, 2011 at 5:12 am
And right afterwards, Athens was sucked into first Alexander's empire and then the Roman Empire.
Johnny in Wi.
April 28th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Grady: My Church has given the world the idea of the universal brotherhood of man, mass charity to the poor, The New Testament, the Hospital, the University, great architecture, art, theology, music. philosphy and modern science which comes out of the the monastaries and universities of the Church. Islam, 35000 Protestant churches, the French Revolution, Communism, Socialism, National Socialism, the Masonic Order, and the new Neo Paganism were all founded to destroy and replace the Church. They have as of this time not succeded. The Church has survived millions of martyers, thousands of persecutions, and outlived many thousands of civl governments from the Roman Empire to the USSR. We must have something going for us.
emsnews
April 28th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
When the right wing thinks Medicare is the 'enemy' then what? Seriously! Then what? I can't go to my family who is retired and announce to them, 'Hey, we are going to have you all die!' How is this going to save anyone?
The far right like Justin itches to get rid of national forms of healthcare. And a host of other civilized things. I hate wars because they are beastly and above all, KILL PEOPLE. Replacing this with killing our parents, killing poor children, letting people die left and right here at home is…well, inhumane is one word that springs to mind.
Yes, the healthcare issue is a core issue! We end wars and end Medicare and Medicaid and we win what? A certain death here at home? This fight will erupt in the face of the far right this year…trust me on this.
Alabama and other southern (GOP loving) states just got hammered by some very nasty tornadoes. I expect them to beg us for help. I want to stop paying for wars so we can save the people hit by tornadoes here at home.
Justin's philosophy is, shrink our government so when tornadoes hit, the losers in life's lottery get to sit on the ruins and starve to death, who cares! Whilst those of us on the left who are so often chided and reviled here, would be the generous ones to hand out help.
Charity? What is that? Well, throughout history, it has ultimately come from a government. It is the chief job of a government to protect the people. This definitely includes feeding them and helping them in times of plagues, etc.