Anti-Defamers Defame Muslims
Dark alliance: ADL joins with far-right crazies to ban mosque
I’m shocked – shocked, I tell you! – that the Anti-Defamation League has joined the alliance of militant Christians, militantly atheistic “Objectivists,” and other assorted militant nut-jobs in calling for a ban on the so-called “Ground Zero mosque, “ otherwise known as Cordoba House. After all, why would an organization ostensibly devoted to “civil rights” and “tolerance” get in bed with Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller, the Religious Right, and Leonard Peikoff, the Peripatetic Pipsqueak?
To find out, let’s travel to the ADL web site and read their statement of policy on the matter:
“We regard freedom of religion as a cornerstone of the American democracy, and that freedom must include the right of all Americans – Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and other faiths – to build community centers and houses of worship.”
So far, so good: no indications of militant craziness here, just the same old bromides we’ve heard from the ADL all these years, and, just in case we don’t get the message that these are just your average, everyday Jewish liberals, there’s more reassurances up front:
“We categorically reject appeals to bigotry on the basis of religion, and condemn those whose opposition to this proposed Islamic Center is a manifestation of such bigotry. However …”
Uh oh! Here it comes:
“There are understandably strong passions and keen sensitivities surrounding the World Trade Center site. We are ever mindful of the tragedy which befell our nation there, the pain we all still feel – and especially the anguish of the families and friends of those who were killed on September 11, 2001.”
Since it wasn’t Islam that attacked and demolished the World Trade Center, but a marginal group of fanatics who used religion as a cover for their blood lust, what the ADL is referring to here are the “strong passions” of Islamophobes who hate everything to do with Islam – why, those poor sensitive souls, their feelings must be woefully hurt! One question, though: Are the “keen sensitivities” of those who conflate one of the world’s greatest religions with the handful of thugs and cut-throats who killed 3,000 people on 9/11 really something that needs to be taken into account? What if, in the wake of the 1967 bombing of the USS Liberty by Israeli warplanes – in which 34 US servicemen were slaughtered – a campaign had been mounted to banish all synagogues from a two-mile radius of Arlington National Cemetery? How would the ADL have reacted?
Surely they would have vehemently disagreed with those who – invoking the families of our fallen sailors – justified such a loopy and transparently bigoted proposal, especially if these bigots had the chutzpah to argue that these synagogues were “counterproductive to the healing process.” Yet this is how the ADL rationalizes their opposition to Cordoba House – speaking the same language of collective guilt that informs the lexicon of anti-Semitic crazies the world over.
The ADL has always opposed conspiracy theories, as a matter of high principle, and are quick to compare them – no matter how much evidence accrues to their credibility – with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a notorious anti-Semitic forgery. Yet “in these unique circumstances,” as Foxman & Co. put it, they are perfectly willing to embrace a conspiracy theory that accuses the builders of Cordoba House of receiving money from “terrorist” sources: that the whole project is a plot by radical Islamists with lots of cash to rub our noses in the 9/11 terrorist attacks – just in time for the ninth anniversary!
What is the evidence for this conspiracy theory? The answer is: none, not even a shred. Indeed, those who raise the issue of the source of the funding don’t bother offering any: they merely call for an investigation on the grounds that, apparently, any and all Muslims are automatically suspect. This is what the ADL is enabling and endorsing: defamation, pure and simple.
Claudia Rosett, a writer for Forbes who is also affiliated with the “Foundation for the Defense of Democracies” – originally known as “Emet,” an Israeli-funded propaganda front group that may very well have received at least part of its start-up funding from overseas – demands an accounting of Cordoba House’s finances “down to the last penny.”
Rosett’s harpyish hectoring has to be read to be believed: told that the project director Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is traveling, and unavailable for an interview, she wants to know why he’s traveling so much these days. Is his trip a fundraising tour? Is he raising money from people who don’t “love America”? Bereft of facts, her argument depends on the very lack of solid information conveyed in her piece. According to the Claudia Rosett School of Jurisprudence, one is guilty unless and until proven innocent. Building while Muslim – it’s the new driving-while-black.
Utilizing the sort of Bizarro “logic” that enables the ADL to come out in favor of defamation, Rosett avers:
“In other words, is any of his fundraising getting a boost from the high-profile debate and distress generated by his plans? One would hope that Rauf picked the site with the best of intentions. But on the chance that the choice amounts in any way to a cynical fundraising stunt, or even a dangerous appeal to potential donors who have lots of money but no love lost for America, full and regular public disclosure of his backers, prospects, plans and financial books would surely help clarify the situation.”
Rauf is to be blamed for the controversy that Rosett, the ADL, and the neoconservative wing of the GOP have generated: it was all a plot, you see, a “cynical” fundraising ploy.
What an odd admission for Rosett to make: that she is herself apparently a willing dupe of this Vast Muslim Conspiracy. After all, you can’t get much more “high profile” than the pages of Forbes.
I admit to not being all that shocked that ADL director Abe Foxman has finally gone over the edge. His latest shenanigans are but the end of a long career in which he has at last become a perfect caricature of himself. Clear evidence of his advanced state of senile dementia comes near the end the official ADL statement, where the “theoretical” justification for this blatantly bigoted and clearly totalitarian hate campaign is pronounced, in all seriousness:
“Proponents of the Islamic Center may have every right to build at this site, and may even have chosen the site to send a positive message about Islam. The bigotry some have expressed in attacking them is unfair, and wrong. But ultimately this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right. In our judgment, building an Islamic Center in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain – unnecessarily – and that is not right.”
Forget about rights, constitutional and/or natural [.pdf], secular or God-given: these human constructs crumble to dust before the ADL’s own concept of “what is right.” And “what is right” is measured in terms of how much unnecessary pain is experienced by “some victims.”
Who are these victims? The relatives and loved ones of those who died that fateful day? Of course, all of us could be termed “victims” of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, because all of us have had to endure nearly a decade of constant warfare, and a concerted attack on our constitutional rights since that day. And it hasn’t stopped, yet – indeed, our collectively experienced pain seems to be on the increase, lately, as the US war machine revs up its motors for a go at Pakistan, and Iran.
This is nothing new for the ADL, which has been in the forefront of speech suppression and political intolerance at least since the postwar years, when it spent a lot of its energies going after conservatives who opposed US intervention in World War II. For an organization supposedly devoted to battling ethnic defamation, the ADL was not among those who protested the internment of Japanese-Americans, Italian-Americans, and some German-Americans in concentration camps for the duration of the war. Nor did we hear from them when the state of Israel established a system sickeningly reminiscent of South Africa’s apartheid in the occupied territories of Palestine. Indeed, the ADL has, in recent years, become little more than a de facto adjunct of the Israeli government, a knee-jerk defender of whatever repressive and increasingly anti-American behavior Tel Aviv cares to indulge in.
Under Abe Foxman’s idiosyncratic and embarrassingly erratic leadership, a league founded in order to oppose defamation of ethnic and religious minorities has attached itself to a movement devoted to precisely the sort of bigotry it has traditionally abhorred. Due to this bizarre development – albeit one not entirely unpredictable – one of two things should happen. Either 1) Foxman steps down, in disgrace and humiliation, after issuing the appropriately heartfelt apology, and seeks professional help, or 2) The ADL announces a name change to reflect its newfound orientation.
After merging with such like-minded organizations as the English Defense League (a group of violent football hooligans endorsed by Pamela Geller, the founding leader of the anti-Cordoba House movement), and their American co-thinkers, a much larger ADL could be built – but only if they’ll change their name to announce their new ideological orientation. If they want to get in on the anti-Muslim action, they’ll have to shed their tolerant liberal image – and history – and do a complete makeover. May I suggest the Pro-Defamation League? It’s bold, it’s trendy, it’s now.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Up Against the FBI – May 23rd, 2013
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013





indianchief
August 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 am
Justin, always sharp, witty and right on the money.
mickperry
August 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 am
Surely time that we reclaimed our language, and 'Pro Defamation League' is a good start to the process. I'd also suggest replacing the historically inaccurate 'anti Semite' with 'Judeopath', and 'Islamophobe' with 'Islamopath': these people being more 'diseased haters' than 'fraidey cats'.
And yes, replace Foxman too, if only because of his name.
Tyler Darling
August 2nd, 2010 at 5:55 am
I was thinking of writing a blog on the subject, but Justin pretty hit the nail on the head better than I could. The ADL will surely take a beating for their endorsement. While criticism of Islam doesn't bother me, racial and religious fear-mongering does. It should be the duty of all Americans regardless of: race, religion, sexual orentation, etc. to stand up and expose these warmongering racist for who they are.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 am
So the 9/11 terrorists were "marginal" fanatics? Is that supposed to be a comfort?
In Israel, "marginal" might mean 8000 settlers in Gaza. In the vast world of Islam, "marginal" translates to MILLIONS OF PEOPLE who share the same "blood lust". But leave it to a propagandist like you to try to obscure such distinctions.
Are you on the Saudi payroll?
mickperry
August 2nd, 2010 at 8:30 am
The attack on the USS Liberty was a tragic accident? Wrong forum my friend. People here tend to be educated and informed, and that description happens to also include many Israelis such as Uri Avenary. See if the Fox News website has a comments forum, because it probably specialises in ignorance and invective if its 'news' programmes are anything to go by. You will feel right at home.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 am
"People here tend to be educated and informed"
Yes, but the question is, "educated" by whom and "informed" by what?
Propagandists or truth-tellers? Fiction or fact?
James
August 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
So great one, educate us with your unlimited flow of knowledge, all the world showld take the information from only one source heh?
I tell you what GF, grw a brain, think for yourself and ask one queation: what started all this in the M.E.? The answer is very simple, people coming over from Europe to taks other people's land.
Do not bother to reply back becasue I am not interested in what you have to say.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 am
"Do not bother to reply" – Spoken like a true freedom-of-speech-loving American patriot!
"all the world showld take the information from only one source heh?" – Hey, if you're going to put words in my mouth, next time try to at least spell them correctly! When the heck did I ever say or imply you've got to get your info from only ONE source? Try paying attention to what's actually written, "great one".
"people coming over from Europe" – You mean all those descendants of the folks who were exiled there in the first place? And what about the million or so who were kicked out of Arab lands? Did expelling them not contribute to "all this in the M.E." too? Not to mention Haj al-Husseini collaborating with the ubermentschen to slaughter all the untermentschen? Or British and French colonialism? Or Islamic intolerance and Arab intransigence? Or persecution in Europe? Or or or…
Anyway, I'm so sure you won't reply coz you're "not interested" in what I have to say!
;-)
Montaigne
August 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
Quite interesting to read "Geller Fan". He is very adept in sidetracking debate into emotions. So when his opponents then get frustrated or angry, THAT is a proof of THEIR wrongheadedness.
jon
August 2nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
Justin, looks like the ADL has one of its trolls (perhaps Geller herself) monitoring your writings, and trying to counter whatever you say that doesn't fit in with the ADL's job of propagandizing the masses.
Looks like they fear you. Good going!
Oh. Also saw you with the judge on TV. Well done.
thoughtbell
August 2nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
What does it matter what the Israelis were or weren't screaming? It wouldn't exactly be beyond the pale to argue that radical Zionism is "dangerous, widespread, and fundamentalist". The 911 attack, to my knowledge, has not been defended by Bin Laden or any of those involved as a blow for Islam as you imply; rather, they make it quite clear that it was a response to America's foreign policy. The examples in Justin's analogies might differ in particulars, but the intent appears to be to show up the general inconsistency in demonizing Islam for the violent actions of some of its more extreme adherents while holding an entirely different measuring stick up to Israel's violent actions and extreme adherents.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
Nope, I'm not affiliated with any organization. But it doesn't take long for you paranoids to start speculating about conspiracy theories!
As for "fear", it was Herr Raimondo who wrote the column in the first place, attacking all and sundry. Obviously, he's the one who feels terrorized, so much so that he offers one transparent sop to the world jihad after another. David Cameron just did the same thing in Turkey, slavishly bashing Israel to please his Mohammedan masters. There's a bit of that going around, it seems!
persnipoles
August 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
Were your millions-of-muslims filming plane strikes at the time…such as Paul Kurzberg? How can you tell someone they're full of hate even as you tell a tall tale of 'milions of muslims?'
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 11:20 am
Boy oh boy, there sure ain't no "informing the lexicon" of "antisemitic crazies" around here, eh Justin?
Ann Mican
August 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Dear Geller-fan troll,
Shut up and take your anti-psychotic meds.
Solomon
August 2nd, 2010 at 5:18 am
As a Jew, I advocate the genocide of all Muslim men and the rape of all Muslim women. Please spread this message to Ms. Gellar.
Mhstahl
August 2nd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
As a suggestion, when using words and concepts that you don't understand to amplify an emotional case in the same post where poor grammar is used as a foil, proofreading is a good idea.
I'd suggest that you go and do some reading involving the offending terms so that you might become used to their proper spelling, and what they actually mean, but that would be pointless.
I'll let you wonder where you embarrassed yourself.
geo1671
August 2nd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Gellar Fan and Justin–Sept11/2001attacks No arabs took part
regarding USS Liberty }srael USA navy killings–Israel airplanes, all were over painted to look like Eygptian air force fighter planes. The attack was curtailed after–young marine radioed–they are not MIGS but F15s.
Gellar fan–Doltz at large
E. A. Costa
August 2nd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
The Chinese mainlanders were cheering watching the 9/11 video. Some even marketed a computer game where the gamer blew up the towers, which the government later banned.
Clearly Ground Zero must be turned into a Holy Site to the Forever War against Islam. Will China be added next?
Ban Arabic numerals and Chinese restaurants within a ten mile radius of cleanly designed, glow in the dark hole in the ground.
persnipoles
August 2nd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Is this a 'world jihad' involving your 'millions' of muslims? Again, how is it you're telling somone about their tendency towards conspiracy theory even as you push a fantasy yourself?
Montaigne
August 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I think what convinced me about the fishy side of 9-11 was the complete removal of the ruins. So that no one might detect explosives? A very strange decision. Enormous masses where – ordered and paid for by whom? – removed out of the US. Accountability effectively denied! Some people at the top of the administration must have stared with terror on the possibility of serious examinations might give, even PROVE, doubts.
Uncertainty is of course a bad feeling to spread. But certainty of serious crimes probably worse. You might also profit from uncertainty in selling bad things like wars, thus PROFITING from your very own criminal removal of evidence. Chutzpah!
Dave
August 2nd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
The biggest offense in recent memory by the ADL has been its denial of the Armenian genocide and working with Turkey to defeat Armenian genocide resolutions in Congress (www.NoPlaceforDenial.com), something that Antiwar and Justin Raimondo have studiously ignored – in today's article about the ADL, as one good example. Antiwar is as big a propagandist as it claims others are.
True Times
August 2nd, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Seems like more Mosques would prevent any Islamic Extremist from blowing up anything else around the WTC area wouldn't it?
1todd_sheen
August 2nd, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Todd
charley caruso
August 2nd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
How come you're always hearing about anti-Semitism, but you never hear about pro-Semitism?
dsmith
August 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
I would like to see the cover ofTime magazine feature a picture of Rachel Corrie or any of the children who have died because Israel will not allow medicine and respirators into Gaza. The Israelis are not cutting off noses and ears, their cutting off an entire lifeline to Gaza. I think the words control freaks apply to the Mulim center and the way the neocon press presents Islam.
David
August 2nd, 2010 at 6:22 pm
..Your bout of Islamophobia is to be expected since your narrative involving those of the Islamic faith is the standard fare among American sheeple. Tell Us how building seven fell down all by itself?? 9-11 was the prefect pretext for the military industrial complex in this country to wage war against a resources rich ethnic group who for the most part rejects American hegemony. America "always" needs a boogeyman. If you wish to remain in the dark, then do so, and expect ridicule for being seemingly myopic.
David
August 2nd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
..The ADL has been a farce since its inception, and it has always been an arm of the Israeli government. When has this lobby group ever been against any Israeli policies such as illegal settlements, the illegal occupation of the West Bank, Golan Heights, and East Jerusalem?? It would figure that the ever mendacious Foxman would be ringing his bell of Islamophobia. This is what the ADL, AIPAC, and CUFU do in concert with each other. They should all be forced to register as foreign agents since none of them represent the interests of the United States, and pose a threat to what it was founded on.
zion
August 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Its time to remove Weisenthal Center for lavon affair,for USS liberty and for open support to attack Iraq in which trillions were lost along with 4000 soldiers and hundreds of thousands maimed.
zion
August 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Geller should write an easily digestible book covering 911 and mossad,911 and Israeli art students, 911 and dancing Israeli, 911 and Urban Moving comapny, 911 and Israeli travellerrs with multiple passport, multiple plane tickets,and even box cutter and maps of US cities. Geller then should conclude what could have bben the result if Abe Foxman from ADL did not force Carl cameron and Brit Hume not to air sequeale to the 911 and Dancing Israeli by forcibg FOX news . Geller also should wonder and add a line on Anthrax scarce and Phillip Jack, and poor Egyptian by name Assad, and add a chapter on istant messaging of Odigo and warning to certain pepel af impending attack on WTC. I will become a Geller fan .
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
I feel no embarrassment, but you certainly should!
My remark about poor spelling was no more than a brief aside in a post concerning other topics, while you seem incapable of commenting on anything OTHER than spelling! Rather petty of you.
Uber, unter, tomato, tomah-toe… My apologies to the terminally small-minded Word Gestapo, but folks got the point.
Paligirl
August 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Lay off the ziocaine. It's really not healthy for the mind or heart. While you're at it, open a book…maybe you'll learn something. Scary thought, I know! But it'll do your heart and mind a great deal of good. Maybe then you can rejoin the rest of us civilized people in this world.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Sounds like you're the one who's pushing a fantasy. Surveys have been conducted of Muslims in various countries, asking them if they support violent acts like suicide bombings. (One such poll was taken in the UK following the 7/7 attacks some years ago.) True, the results indicate that only a small percentage of Muslims support such violence. However, considering that there are about 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, even if 99 percent of them don't support violent terrorism, that still leaves 15 million souls who do.
So even if only 1 percent of Muslims support violent jihad, that means there are more potential jihadists than there are )ews in the entire world. And the percentage in some countries is likely to be quite higher than 1 percent of the population. Is this what Justin meant by "marginal"?
If you approach the facts honestly, without preconceived notions, you'd come to understand that you're the one who's been pushing a fantasy.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
I feel no embarrassment, but you certainly should!
My remark about poor spelling was no more than a brief aside in a post concerning several topics, while you dedicated your entire post to my spelling! Rather petty of you, I'd say.
Uber, unter, tomato, tomah-toe… My apologies to the terminally small-minded Word Gestapo, but I think people got the point I was making.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Maybe coz antisemitism sells?
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Gaza? That's the place that just built a new luxury shopping mall, right?
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 7:29 pm
"none of them represent the interests of the United States, and pose a threat to what it was founded on"
But I suppose that sharia law, demanding the killing of apostates and the stoning of women, represents American interests, and poses no threat to its foundations?
Yes, by all means, let's do everything we possibly can to spread the religion of submission throughout the land of the free. After all, like Justin wrote, it's "one of the world's greatest religions" (even though it's anathema to the Constitution).
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 7:33 pm
This is the comment that was deleted by the cowardly administrator:
Likening the massive, history-changing 9/11 attacks with the USS Liberty bombing is quite the stretch, to say the least. A tragic accident like that hardly represented a dangerous, widespread, fundamentalist ideology that embraces deliberate mass murder of "infidels" on a huge scale. The Israelis weren't screaming "Allahu akbar" or anything of the kind at the time. The Liberty incident wasn't the expression of a religious ideology, but the action of a nation's military during wartime. Your parallel involving mosques and synagogues is undergraduate sophistry. And nobody celebrated the deaths of the American servicemen, whereas 9/11 was cheered throughout the various lands dominated by "one of the world’s greatest religions", as you put it ever so politically correctly (i.e. fearfully). Your comparison with the Liberty is manipulative, cynical, specious, desperate and ridiculous. Not unlike many of your previous blatherings.
As for "informing the lexicon of anti-Semitic crazies the world over", you and your colleagues are doing an excellent job of that, and you know it!
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
This is the comment that was deleted by the cowardly administrator:
Are you really comparing a tiny sideshow (perhaps an apocryphal one at that?) with the widespread outpouring of schadenfreude that took place across Islamic lands after 9/11?
So what you're saying is, if a tiny handful of )ews allegedly laughed at your misery, you're full of burning hatred, but if millions of Muslims did, that doesn't trouble you in the least?
Sounds like you already had a raging bigotry in your heart long before you learned of this little celebration, and news of it merely confirmed what you privately wanted to believe all along.
When Justin referred to "anti-Semitic crazies", he must have been talking about his readership.
Mike
August 2nd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Geller is a sideshow.
She is offered as a distraction, like Coulter, like Beck. Like corporate sports and most forms of corporate entertainment for that matter. It's tempting to indulge in.
The aim is to focus on weakening unaccountable private tyrannies.
There are bigger fish to fry.
James
August 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
My thoughts exactly, she sidestepped the discussion at hand by her bullshit.
I say let us just ignore those types in the future, I see many people doing this in many other forums.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Thanks for your highly intellectual contribution. What substance! The "Shut up and take your meds" approach never gets stale, does it?
DavidSpero
August 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 pm
GF, you are fighting a losing battle. Everyone (at least outside the US media cocoon) knows that Israel has committed crime after crime, the flotilla, the blockade, the punishment attack on Gaza (including banned weapons), the unprovoked destruction of Lebanon from the air, the attack on the USS Liberty, the ongoing theft of Palestinian land, the jailing without charge of thousands of Palestinians, etc. etc.
In reply to this, you throw up 9/11/01 as the proof of Muslim "evil." Raimondo thinks 9/11 was the act of a small group of Muslims, acting for political, not religious reasons. Many if not most people on this site think elements of the US and Israeli governments were involved in the attack. Either way, it doesn't justify hatred of Muslims or Islam.
Your side has almost all the weapons and most of the money. But ultimately, all empires fall, and with Zionism aggravating the overstretch of the American empire, it won't be long now before the USA collapses and takes Israel with it. For good or ill, you're helping move this process along.
Good luck
August 2nd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
my interpretation would be neo cons needed some Jewish organization to come out against the Islamic center so as not to confound the Christian Zionists, who got ahead of the neo cons on this one.
persnipoles
August 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
And what fantasy would that have been?
'Support' is term so vague it could be interpreted as 'do you sympathise with what they're going through.' Why, just last week my friend was carrying a heavy load of cat litter. He asked me what I was doing and I told him I was 'supporting' him. I would not take 'support' to indicate a 'potential jihadist'. 'Small percentage,' however, is consistent with being marginal.
Geller Fan
August 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 pm
For curious readers…
The comment by dsmith that was deleted by the cowardly administrator went something like this:
"I say we destroy any synagogue within a mile of Golgotha."
Rob
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:14 am
The Gates of Vienna are now in New York?
eve
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:20 am
Anti-semitism is a response to anti-gentileism.
What the zionists lack is self-evaluation.
When the entire world hates you … it's not everyone else who's being illogical.
Cause and effect. Action and reaction.
Karma will be a bitch.
eve
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:24 am
We weren't talking about Shairia law. Stay on topic.
The ADL, AIPAC, and the endless lobby groups who espouse the same agenda should be required to register as an agent of a foreign country on US soil.
That is what they are, and their interests serve )ewish and Israeli interests, not the citizens of the US <unless they are )ewish>.
This is truth.
E. A. Costa
August 3rd, 2010 at 1:04 am
With Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" as the decadent conclusion, including Austrian economics.
Hitting upon Cruise as enigmatically and appropriately empty was sheer genius.
Mezenc
August 3rd, 2010 at 3:59 am
Good possibility that Israel had a hand in 9/11. Extremely doubtful that any Muslims perpetrated those crimes.
Joe
August 3rd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Interesting article but relegating the 911 hijackes to 'marginal thugs' is incorrect and dangerous. There is rightly a rejection of US hegemony and intrusion in Islamic countries.
Tthe hijackers had their valid reasons, whether you agree with them or not, for the attack. Revenge is the motive and 'blowback' the result.
Leon Haller
August 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 am
While I second Raimondo's criticism of the gross hypocrisy of the unbelievably evil ADL, a grotesquely anti-white and anti-Western hate group, the thrust of this article only confirms for me why I am not a libertarian – despite my agreement with the value-free economics of Mises and the Austrians, and my having as an ideological default position a (rebuttable) presumption in favor of liberty (ie, while I strongly defend the need for government, and believe that states possess many necessary functions, ones which most certainly could NOT be better performed by the free market, I think that any infraction on individual liberty must first be ethically and then instrumentally justified; many governmental edicts and tasks would meet that test, however).
The Western world, including the US, is locked in what is clearly now a global demographic war for racial survival. Slowly but surely, because whites everywhere have lost their communal wills to endure as distinct peoples on this Earth, our race is going extinct. Allied to this passive extinction is the active hatred of many – blacks in Southern Africa, Latinos in the Western Hemisphere, Arabs in Europe and even Australia, native Hawaiians, etc – across the globe for whites (a hatred mainly born in jealousy for our superior civilization). Islam is increasingly becoming the main locus of this global anti-white hatred. Islam is not a great religion. Only Christianity is true. Islam is a violent pagan cult that has been unilaterally aggressing against Christians and other religions of peace for 1400 years. It is the main, the Eternal, enemy of the West. It must be resisted anywhere and everywhere. Not ONE SINGLE mosque belongs ANYWHERE on Western soil. Every mosque is a kind of enemy outpost, a breach of our psychological and even physical defenses.
[Of course, I, too, opposed the Iraq invasion, but not because it utilized the admirable and sound doctrine of preemptive warfare, but simply because I knew that toppling Saddam would not be worth the money, or the deflection and loss of momentum of the conservative agenda, whose most vital tasks are first, ending the very un-libertarian Third World immigration invasion and socialist conquest of America, and second, slashing the size and scope of at least the Federal Govt back down to Constitutional limits.]
Solomon
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I agree. More muslim children need to be slaughtered to protect Israel.
Solomon
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
I agree. More Muslim children need to be killed in order to protect Zion.
Solomon
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:21 pm
More Muslim children need to die because of Anti semitism. If you are against the slaughter of Palestinian men, women and children, then you are Anti semitic.
Solomon
August 3rd, 2010 at 5:22 am
Every child in Gaza should be shot and every woman raped. As an Israeli, this what needs to happen to protect my house in Tel Aviv.
Solomon
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I agree. More Muslim children need to be killed by drones because of antisemitism.
Solomon
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Yes, more Gazan children need to die for Israel to be safe.
E. A. Costa
August 3rd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
"There are three things that smell like fish, and one of them is fish."
Frank Zappa
thoughtbell
August 3rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Are you a mad debunker working for the CIA or are you really insane?
Anne
August 3rd, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Why do you continue to pretend that the 9/11 attack was perpetrated by the 19 Arabs despite the abundant evidence to the contrary–the massive explosions indicative of controlled demolition, the collapse of the three buildings at free-fall speed, the 5-man Israeli crew in position to film the entire event, the discovery of nanothermite in the WTC dust that was analyzed, etc. etc. The attack on 9/11 was pulled off by Israel and the CIA; it was a pretext for pre-emptive wars, it was a new Pearl Harbor. The man to listen to is Richard Gage of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and the books to read on the subject are by David Ray Griffin. Truth always comes before freedom.
Being Sentient
August 3rd, 2010 at 8:48 am
Excellent Article, Justin, as usual. However, you seem to have left out an even more important statement by Mr. Foxman, as quoted in the NY Times:
“Survivors of the Holocaust are entitled to feelings that are irrational," he said, and referring to the loved ones of Sept. 11 victims, he said, "Their anguish entitles them to positions that others would categorize as irrational or bigoted.”
Interesting thesis. To me, when people are traumatized and emotionally damaged, the ugly behavior that results does not come from entitlement, but rather something that needs medical attention. I don't know, but it seems to mean, understandably, that many traumatized victims, including many Holocaust survivors, cannot always judge others fairly. Certainly, Mr Foxman cannot judge Gentiles fairly. He can't even judge many fellow Jews fairly. Why doesn't the Jewish Community call for his resignation? How can such a person be allowed to speak for this community?
Being Sentient
August 3rd, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Thanks much, Geller Fan. Great service you provide. Keep it coming.
Being Sentient
August 3rd, 2010 at 4:02 pm
I think perhaps he/she's being sarcastic to illustrate how silly the White Supremacist position is.
eve
August 3rd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
It's time Americans (real Americans not Christian and Zionist fundamentalists) unite.
We can no longer be Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative, Independent.
We must either be American or un-American.
Class, religious, ethnic wars have all simultaneously been waged (as diversions) against the US and its citizens. The media (TV, talk radio, magazines) is a propaganda tool.
You wither stand with America or you stand for someone else.
I'm not talking of the phony dichotomy via George Bush/Dick Cheney but rather those who wish to retain freedom here in this country versus those who wish to limit/destroy freedom in this country.
Whether their aim is an NWO or simply an economic/religious/class change, those who do good for America are on one side and those who do not (for whatever reason) are on the other side.
It does not matter what your religious books say (if you're religious), because it seems God's on holiday and the "issue" is here on earth.
Choose your side.
Deuce
August 3rd, 2010 at 4:44 pm
He does miss one major point. ALL RELIGION IS CONSPIRACY THEORY!
We have sequenced the human genome. Every one of 6 billion people on this planet shares a common ribosome nearly 2 million years old. We are all related and all came from the same origins. Despite any cultural misinterpretations (by men) that have become common practice over the years, the biggest conspiracy theory of all time is RELIGION. Quite contrary to Raimondo's attempt to contrast "good religionism" with fanaticism, I say there is simply not a set of facts to support the idea of multiple major religions. So forget about getting along, even handedness, or subtle differences between the devout and fanatical. Continuing to have these religious divides over the misinterpretations of MAN stupid. There is no 'side' to take if you care to argue from a point of fact or reason. The only conspiracy is that we still tolerate age old feuds, wars, and terrorism in the name of manmade misinterpretations of that which can be clearly proven. That is all that religion is. Falsehoods practiced in defiance of verifiable reality, perpetuated and worn as a badge of pride by stupid humans…
Tom
August 3rd, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Ok, but I understand that Turkey is in favor of the building of the mosque in Manhattan, as we would expect. I ask people, how has Turkey treated its Christians and Jews and how does it treat them now? Does it allow new churches to be built? Synagogues? Everything I read says "no." Turkey has a very bad record.
But billions of Americans' taxes go to Turkey for all sorts of things. Should we put an end to that until Turkey allows more human rights and allows non-Muslim houses of worship to be built? Why doesn't someone speak out about this? It's our money.
Turkey has been criticizing Israel and Europe but there has been a lot of silent about Turkey even though we arm and support Turkey and the helicopters we sell them have been used against Kurdish villagers inside Turkey.
There is some sort of double standard here, and I notice it among the posters on this website. I don't understand why people are so supportive of Turkey now when it is at least as great a violator of human rights as Israel is. People seem to be Ok with our taxes and weapons going to Turkey but not to Israel, and I wonder about that double standard.
persnipoles
August 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira ? Is that you? http://original.antiwar.com/cook/2010/08/02/israe…
Solomon
August 4th, 2010 at 1:15 am
As an Israeli, I salivate for the murders of millions of Muslim children. They need to be killed in order to protect Israel.
Solomon
August 4th, 2010 at 1:17 am
As an Israeli, I support the slaughter of Turkish as well as all Muslims.
Solomon
August 3rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Did you tell Ms. Gellar to start advocating for the rape of all Muslim women? I will be very upset, because as an Israeli, I love Ms. Gellar, and if she doesn't advocate the rape of Muslim women, then she is no better than Hamas
Solomon
August 4th, 2010 at 1:20 am
Why does Ms Gellar not call for the killing of Muslim children who threaten my country of Israel?
James
August 4th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Solomon, please stop making me laugh so much. You are sooooo transparent.. LOL
Solomon
August 4th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
You are just an anti-Semite who likes to be told what to do by Hamas.
Leon Haller
August 20th, 2010 at 7:03 am
I am perfectly sane and sincere. What that I have posted could you possibly disagree with? Are you stupid, or merely grossly ignorant?
froivinber
September 13th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
This guys is a dishonest prick. Here's a proof written by an ex-Libertarian:
Raimondo wishes us to believe that Peikoff "faithfully echoes" the views of the neoconservatives. That would be convenient, given the flaws of neoconservative ideas, except for the minor detail that the Objectivists vigorously denounce the neoconservatives. Brook does so explicitly in his "Morality of War" talk (at least in the version I heard). (Peikoff is voting for Kerry.) The Objectivists believe the neoconservatives pick the wrong wars for the wrong reasons and fight them by the wrong tactics. Both movements are superficially similarly in that both are in some sense "pro-war," but the ways in which they are pro-war are so radically different that further comparison is impossible.
Raimondo calls the Objectivist method "daffy," yet he totally distorts the substance of that method. Raimondo claims Objectivists ignore the data, refuse to read newspapers, and exclude empirical facts from their analysis. In Raimondo's words, Objectivists "derive the answers to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, or the how to defeat Al Qaeda, or what position to take on the Iraq war, from knowing that 'A is A'." Yet all Objectivists explicitly and strongly oppose the sort of methodology Raimondo attributes to them. True, Objectivists advocate thinking in principles, but not in an empty rationalistic way. Rather, Objectivists explicitly endorse building principles inductively from one's knowledge of reality.
Raimondo urges us to look at empirics, but he totally ignores the enormous work Objectivists have put into evaluating the realities of the Middle East. Peter Schwartz (who, with Peikoff and Brook, also works at the Ayn Rand Institute) conducts in his new book precisely the sort of empirical investigation Raimondo claims he's looking for. John Lewis has pursued extensive research about terrorist attacks. Robert Tracinski offers daily analysis of key news stories. So Raimondo's description of Objectivists is completely false.
Raimondo chooses not to take on the Objectivist view on fundamentals — indeed, he doesn't even discuss the fundamental tenets of the Objectivist view. Instead, Raimondo takes a couple details from the Objectivist position, drops the context of those details, distorts their substance, and then proceeds with his ad hominem attacks.
The grain of truth in Raimondo's review is that both Peikoff and Brook would allow military action that results in civilian deaths and the limited use of torture of enemy soldiers. Raimondo distorts this view and claims Objectivists "think it's okay to torture and kill six-year-olds." In fact, Raimondo's description is false, Objectivists oppose torturing children, and Raimondo seems to be intentionally misrepresenting the Objectivist position in order to demonize it.
Read the whole article here… http://www.freecolorado.com/2004/10/jrvlp.html