So, what do you think about gays in the military? That’s a question I was recently asked, and I answered it here (scroll down), albeit briefly. My brevity was due to my reluctance to say anything about the issue. This unusual shyness – unusual for me, that is – is due to a number of reasons, the primary one being the sort of “allies” I’d have in taking up such a fight.
Those opposing abolishing “don’t ask, don’t tell” are, almost to a man, unmitigated bigots, the sort of people I have nothing in common with, either politically or culturally. Bill Kristol, for example, the well-known war-monger and editor of the Weekly Standard, opposes getting rid of the manifestly unfair and punitive policy on the grounds that gays are inherently a disruptive influence and – of course – as a way of pandering to the evangelical Christian conservatives who have made up such a large part of the GOP’s activist base.
(By the way, neoconservatives have no real problem with homosexuality, per se – or, at least, it doesn’t get in the way of their veneration for this guy, who was a Major Homosexual and eventually died of AIDS. Deceptive and double-dealing in all things, however, neocons of the Kristolian persuasion have no compunctions about tolerating in private the sort of behavior they excoriate in public – as long as the sinner is one of their guys.)
Having sprayed the air with enough intellectual disinfectant to rid the atmosphere of the foul flatulence emitted by these hypocrites, whose odiferous opportunism stinks up our public discourse, I can proceed to discuss the issue of “gays in the military” without being misunderstood.
To begin with, there is no “right” to engage in mass murder, and, under the current regime as well as the previous one, that is precisely what the US military is engaged in: unabashedly naked aggression. Today we are fighting three unjust (not to mention unwinnable) wars simultaneously: Iraq, Afghanistan, and the unacknowledged war on Pakistani soil. Hopeful neocons are planning a fourth, and the President’s rhetoric and actions give them ample reason for optimism. Anyone who joins the American armed forces at this point necessarily becomes an accessory to murder on a mass scale.
My position is not derived from pacifism, although I respect those who hold that view: it is, instead, based on a moral evaluation of US foreign policy as it has been conducted at least since September 11, 2001, although the roots of the moral rot precede that date by a few decades. In a normal context — that is, the context of a non-aggressor nation, one that neither seeks to dominate others, nor is willing to submit to domination by a foreign power – a military career would be just another occupation, neither calumniated nor valorized in an unseemly way. In the present context, however, enlisting means being an accomplice to the commission of a crime. To claim the “right" of gays, or anyone else, to join the US military is to claim the “right” to be a war criminal.
Yet it isn’t enough to simply say no one should join, although that is certainly my view. It is necessary to go further, and examine the meaning and ominous implications of this kind of push for “gay rights.”
The series of post-9/11 wars engaged in by the United States were sold to the American public by hook and by crook – faked “evidence” of Saddam’s alleged nukes, lies retailed by the New York Times and spread throughout the journalistic bloodstream – but the capture of the elites by the War Party was another matter entirely. While John Q. Public was fed a steady diet of scare-mongering – at one point, President Bush claimed Iraq was capable of launching drone attacks on the continental US – the elites were treated to a rather different line.
The neoconservative intellectuals who agitated for the war and defended as it unfolded touted the invasion as the first step in a general war to “liberate” the Middle East. The “swamp,” we were told, had to be “drained.” The Muslim world was depicted as fatally flawed, an entire civilization fallen victim to a syndrome that stopped its development and produced a virulent hatred of the West, and modernity itself.
Our elite’s conception of modernity naturally includes a liberal, “enlightened” attitude when it come to issues involving sexuality. The lack of women’s rights, as understood by the National Organization for Women and Emily’s List, in the Middle East was and is being emphasized in order to rationalize our civilizing crusade. Gay rights fits under the same rubric, and often during the run-up to the Iraq war, and in general support of Bush’s foreign policy, the more “enlightened” sectors of right-wing opinion – say, as represented by Andrew Sullivan – would sometimes bring up the horrific treatment handed out to gays under Sharia law. This allowed the War Party to argue that anyone who opposed Bush’s wars of “liberation” was supporting the oppression of women and gays – a perfect example of how the neoconservative right appropriates the language of political correctness and bends it to fit their own purposes.
In the age of Obama, such appeals to political correctness are necessarily a staple of war propaganda. Imagine the possibilities: On one side we have our multi-sexual military that includes women and gays, and on the other we have the Forces of Reaction lining up behind the anti-woman anti-gay Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. It’s a perfect modern-day morality tale, one made to order for liberals still squeamish about Obama’s determination to prosecute the Afghan war and go into Pakistan.
Can’t you just hear the arguments? We may be killing plenty of civilians over there, and making a lot of enemies in the process, but at least we’re making the lot of women under Islam a bit easier, and, who knows, helping to at least plant the seeds of a society where gays won’t be subjected to the death penalty. Etc., ad nauseam….
Now, one could argue that in fact our foreign policy does nothing to concretely improve the lot of either women or gays. Indeed, in Iraq both are in a much worse position than they ever were under Saddam, where the situation now resembles that of Iran – a deadly environment for gays in particular.
Yet one has to ask: in how many countries will the oppression of women and gays have to become a casus belli? Okay, so gays are persecuted, often to death, in Iran – does that mean we have to invade that country in the name of “humanitarianism”? How many nations in the world ill treat gay men and women – are all of them subject to invasion? If not Iran, then what about Uganda (if it passes that proposed “kill-the-gays” law coming up for a vote). You can see where this is going.
The mobilization of liberals behind a crusade to make the world safe for the American empire is a key goal of the War Party, and one way to accomplish it is to market the conflict as a war to rid the world of political incorrectness. That fits in rather nicely with this “gays in the military” campaign, which is being brought up at a pivotal point in the life of the Empire: the transition from the conservative Bush regime to an administration much more conducive to the left-liberal imagination. Obama is having increasing problems with the “progressive” wing of his party, and throwing them this sop will help inoculate him against criticism of his foreign policy from the left.
For years, the US military has proscribed, tracked down, harassed, prosecuted, and imprisoned lesbians and gay men, entrapping them, depriving them of their pensions, and disrespecting them as people – and now that they’re desperate, and backed up against a wall, with an unpopular couple of wars to fight, suddenly they need us, they want us, and, by the way, they’re oh-so-sorry about the past.
Anyone who agrees to such a deal — far from being noble, or even patriotic — must be suffering from an enormous lack of self-esteem. We hear so much about “gay pride,” these days – so what kind of “pride” is that?
Finally, to any gay person contemplating a military career at this point, I have to ask: are you ready to not ask and not tell about the atrocities you could well be ordered to commit? If not, then my advice to you is simple: forget “don’t ask, don’t tell” – and just don’t go.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013
- Boycott Israel? – May 9th, 2013





Ira7Epstein
February 5th, 2010 at 8:34 am
There is a simple solution for the problems of gays in Iran, Iraq, Uganda and other countries were they are in danger of being murdered because of their sexual orientation. The solution does not involve waging a series of wars against countries that persecute gays. The United States government could simply offer something equal to political asylum in the United States for gays who face the type of persecution you write about in your article.
Jim
February 5th, 2010 at 10:52 am
As I a gay man, I have had several associates ask me about these developments, fully expecting me to pronounce some great excitement over these new "rights." Why should I be excited to be granted some right to serve "openly" in one of our undeclared wars to bring "freedom" to others, only to come home from duty and still find that I am legally a stranger to my partner of more than 10 years, and that we face completely legal housing and job discrimination? It all stinks of hypocrisy.
bogi666
February 5th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Good article Justine, thanks. Just as the cost of the Great Wall of China bankrupt the country, society collapsed and the mongols invaded. The Great Wall was to provide security butit provided insecurity an unintended consequence. The USG War Party is building a Great Electronic Wall in space with more than a 1,000 outposts, guard towers, around the world, all in the name of security. A proverb states that if something cannot continue it won't. The cost of the Great Electronic Wall in space is simply unsustainable and it will end because it is already bankrupting the country.
Strider55
February 5th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
There could be another agenda at work here. Yesterday I heard an online radio interview with a retired Army officer, who predicted ending DADT would spark a mass exodus from the military, which in turn would require restoration of the draft. Perhaps that's the ultimate goal.
AAR, no one of any sexual inclination has a "right" to join the military. All sorts of physical, mental, intellectual & other disqualifiers are already in place. In the mid-1980s single parents were barred from enlisting, and those already serving (like my unit CO) were not-so-subtly persuaded to leave. Until the 1970s any female becoming pregnant — married or not — was automatically discharged.
peacenik12
February 6th, 2010 at 12:10 am
The only reason many young people are willing to become "cannon fodor" is because jobs are scarce and college education is too expensive.
peacenik12
February 6th, 2010 at 12:19 am
Only reason that draft boards meet their quota is that jobs are scarce and college is too expensive.
Andy
February 6th, 2010 at 2:17 am
I don't think that is the answer.
Andy
February 6th, 2010 at 2:19 am
No one should join the U.S. army for the simple reason you are not defending your country, but rather an empire. Your sexual proclivities are irrelevent.
Iowa Scribe
February 6th, 2010 at 2:48 am
A courageous, closely reasoned, and eloquently argued position.
Gary
February 5th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Is anyone keeping track of the war we are fighting in Colombia? I think there are all kinds of people down there suffering from our very foriegn policy.
peacenik12
February 6th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Usually gays tend to be less macho than straights so why would they even consider the military. However, I could be wrong on that.
peacenik12
February 6th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Gays are usually by nature less macho and thus not enclined for military service. At least those I have known. However, I could be wrong on that.
peacenik12
February 6th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Why are my comments being deleted ?
peacenik12
February 7th, 2010 at 2:32 am
It is time for peace loving people to begin demonstartions in front of recruiting offices.
LES
February 7th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Sorry about the typos.
MoT
February 8th, 2010 at 4:06 am
Whether you're straight or gay I don't feel any warm fuzzies because they're tax sucking parasites. Would "coming out" of the closet in the military mean you wouldn't drop that bomb or kick in that door and gun down that family? Nope. Probably not. You'd be just as much a rainbow killer as the redneck bigot next to you albeit with the States approval now. Sheesh! There are far better things to do with your life than look to the governments "blessing". And, to be quite honest, why in the hell does anybody give a shit about the military or government to begin with? As if life couldn't go on or the planet would cease to spin should you not GET what you want from these thieves. Talk about easy to roll this just reminds me of Code Pink and how they squawked like stuck chickens with the Bushling burning the Middle East but once Obama "da-man" got to the helm you could hear a pin drop except for the eggs they were dutifully laying now.
MoT
February 8th, 2010 at 4:28 am
I find it ironic that in our supposedly "free" country you have to sign up for selective service (AKA the Draft). Being a vet I resent it now more so than ever with my son closing in on 18. I feel if this damn country is worth defending then people will defend it themselves. You don't have to encourage anyone to do anything and no standing armies necessary. Doing away with DADT is really a step towards what they ultimately want… the draft. Just look forward to all the talking heads mysteriously moving into line behind such a measure… its only a matter of time.
LES
February 7th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
“Those opposing abolishing “don’t ask, don’t tell” are, almost to a man, unmitigated bigots, the sort of people I have nothing in common with, either politically or culturally.” J.R.
As a supporter of antiwar.com and a defender of J.R. on Vox Day’s blog, I takes exception to being called an unmitigated bigot.
I view homoexual behavior as both a misuse of the sexual purpose of the human body as well as contrary to God’s standard of morality.
That said, I don’t think homosexuals should be made to conform to my views by the government. By the same token I don’t want the power of the government used to force people like myself to accept homosexuality as the equivalent of heterosexuality.
I am sure there are homosexuals in the military and their fellow soldiers know it. Aboloshing “Don’t Ask – Don’t” tell is just another step towards fulfilling the homosexual agenda as spelled out by Marshall Kirk in his book “After the Ball.”
The antiwar is too small to be divided by this issue. I will continue to support antiwar.com because of Justin Raimondo’s unparalleled work.
I don’t care about his sexuality as long as there is no coercion from the government to accept and embrace it.
Coleen Rowley
February 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Repeal of DADT will have another consequence for those in the military who finally either get a conscience or just decide they no longer want to "volunteer" for the war front. I once heard this story that could make for a romantic screenplay movie if they got the right cute actress and actor (remember the old Doris Day and Rock Hudson movies?)
After a few years serving state-side, a military guy gets orders to the war on Iraq. At that point, he comes out of the closet and admits that he's been gay his whole life. The military, not wanting to lose any warm body (for its cannon fodder), has come up with investigative protocol to prevent the "don't ask, don't tell" rule from becoming a loophole to easily get out of one's military commitment so they send a senior officer to investigate the soldier's admission. After completely investigating the situation, the female officer assigned to the case, writes up a report confirming that it's true, he's been gay his whole life. They guy is released from the military.
The happy, romantic ending comes one year later, after the female officer has herself completed her stint in the military and gotten out. She and the guy she investigated end up getting married and living happy ever after.
Bob K
August 6th, 2010 at 5:45 am
I don't think repealing DADT goes far enough. Why shouldn't all military people be able to share the same quarters and showers? A co-ed armed force would work just as well as combining straights and gays wouldn't it? And just think of how high the overall morale would be….it would probably increase recruitments as well. Yes . I am for establishing a more effective armed force to protrect our Country. Let women and men gays and straights all serve in close proximity to each other at all times. Who cares….if they can shoot straight is all that matters. (YOU REALLY THINK SO ?)
Bob K
September 3rd, 2010 at 5:25 am
wondering why no one has addressed my proposal that the DADT not only be repealed but a new policy that would allow ALL armed forces to be integrated with common facilities; female, male staright and gay. Makes sense?? Isn't dedication to the mission and ability to shoot straight the only qualification for acceptance??
Bob K
September 20th, 2010 at 9:44 am
you are right BOB,,,,,No supporters of the repeal of DADT can answer the issue that if , homosexuals can live in the same barracks and NOT hurt the military mission then neither would healthy males and females with normal sexual appetites hurt the mission either. Let's make the repeal of DADT a springboard to allowing every persuasion , male and female, to live together while serving our Country. It has to make our Country safer and stronger. Don't you agree??