One of the refreshing aspects of the Ron Paul revolution has been its willingness to re-examine America’s fractured foreign policy and return to the old principles of national interest and constitutionalism to serve as guidelines for how the nation should behave internationally. Paul has been bold enough to assert that foreign aid, which accomplishes little for the recipient and diminishes the donor, should be eliminated. This has offended constituencies that are major beneficiaries of the status quo, including the nation of Israel and its powerful lobby. Paul was also the only congressman to publicly condemn the excesses committed by Israel in its invasion of Gaza in 2009, even going so far as to describe the conditions in the enclave as a “concentration camp,” an extremely courageous act in a legislative body that is accustomed to support Israel, right or wrong, by unanimous voice votes.
Paul’s general contention that America should reduce its profile overseas, should stay out of other people’s quarrels, and should resort to war only when a vital interest is at stake are all sound advice. His demand that wars only be initiated constitutionally, after debate in Congress and a declaration of war, would put a brake on the unending series of little wars and police actions that the U.S. has been involved in since the Second World War.
Because Ron Paul has so often been right and sound in his thinking, it is disconcerting to note his most recent comments relating to Israel. It has been reliably reported that Ron Paul, in a private meeting with evangelicals on April 18 in Ft. Worth, Texas, joined fellow Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich in endorsing moving the United States embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. If the comments attributed to him by a senior campaign adviser who was present at the meeting are indeed correct, Paul, using impeccable libertarian logic, argued that it is up to the host country for a diplomatic mission to decide where its capital should be. He asked rhetorically, by way of analogy, “How would we feel if some other nation told us that we would have to make our capital in New York and they refused to build their embassy in Washington, D.C.? It is none of our business.” Paul was, to his credit, unwilling to agree to suggestions from the evangelicals that he might, if president, issue an executive order to bring about the move.
The comments reportedly pleased the evangelical listeners, who will now pay more attention to the Paul campaign and will view it favorably vis-à-vis Mitt Romney, who has only pledged to move the embassy at some future point. Paul has been excoriated by pro-Israel groups and was even excluded from a December presidential candidate forum hosted by the Republican Jewish Coalition because of his “misguided and extreme” views. It is consequently understandable that he should want the Israel issue to go away. He has previously sought to soften his message, sometimes citing his refusal to condemn Israel’s 1981 bombing of Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor, which was precisely the type of “preventive” aggression that he otherwise abhors. Paul is rightly reluctant to interfere in any other country’s foreign affairs, but he might want to consider an alternative narrative, that the Osirak reactor was part of the U.N.’s Nuclear Non-Proliferation program and was subject to regular inspection. It was only after it was bombed that Saddam Hussein initiated a secret program to construct a weapon, largely to defend himself from further attacks by Israel, thereby creating the threat that hitherto did not exist. This was not a good result for either Tel Aviv or Washington.
Paul has also endorsed the possible Israeli bombing of Iran by stating that Israel is responsible for its own security and can do whatever it needs to do to protect itself. He has noted carefully, however, that he is opposed to the United States getting drawn into such a venture, observing that the U.S. is not threatened by Iran and has no reason to go to war. If he had followed that line of reasoning a bit further, he might have had to concede that America under present circumstances could hardly avoid being drawn into such a war, a conclusion confirmed by recent Pentagon war games. Acceptance of an Israeli strike on Iran is not in our interest, no matter what Israel thinks it should do.
Ron Paul has been both a model of honesty and consistency in his views, as well as a politician who always puts America and the American people first, but his view of the proper place for the United States embassy in Israel, which he may have justified by reportedly saying that “The real issue here is not what America wants, but what does Israel want,” assumes that such a decision occurs in a vacuum without any political consequences. If Paul did indeed say that, it is not only morally indefensible but also dead wrong in terms of real U.S. interests. Paul would be, not unlike Mitt Romney and the other Republicans, allowing Israel to dictate actions by the United States that will have grave consequences for the American people. What is good for the U.S. should be guiding the State Department and the White House in the choice for placement of an embassy in a situation in which there are several options, not necessarily what the Israelis perceive might be best for them.
In this case, Israel wants the world to recognize that Jerusalem is its capital, but even countries that have full diplomatic relations with Israel have resisted that demand and kept their embassies in Tel Aviv. No country currently has its embassy in Jerusalem, and there are good reasons why that is so.
Under normal circumstances, the placement of an embassy would not raise any issues at all, as Ron Paul correctly notes, but much of Jerusalem has been occupied by Israeli military forces and the overall status of the city is very much in dispute. Israel’s attempt to colonize the Arab neighborhoods that it has seized and its construction of blocs of settlements on the adjacent West Bank to seal the city off from the largely Palestinian areas to the East have been widely condemned. If the United States were to acquiesce in Israel’s unilateral decision to declare Jerusalem part of Israel by moving its embassy, it would convince the Muslim world that American and Israeli foreign policy are indivisible (if there are any remaining doubts over that issue) and would trigger a possibly violent reaction against the move in a number of nations. It would endanger U.S. troops in the region, and it would also make any kind of peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians impossible. This is precisely why the United States has not already shifted the embassy despite numerous pledges by presidential aspirants and Congress to do so: it would be a very bad move for the American people. Every new president figures that out in fairly short order.
Paul understandably does not have much use for the United Nations, but he surely has some regard for the body of world opinion that it represents, as that impacts directly on American interests. Israel has been on the receiving end of no fewer than 19 U.N. resolutions between 1967 and 2004 denouncing as illegal its continued military occupation of Jerusalem and its establishment of settlements on Palestinian land. The best known is Resolution 242 in 1967, which declared “the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war.” Many more resolutions on the same subject have been vetoed in the Security Council by the United States.
I have tremendous respect for Ron Paul and everything he represents, but I would suggest that in this instance he examine the facts and rethink the position he has taken. Israel is not just another country. It is a nation supported by a powerful domestic lobby that has succeeded in manipulating U.S. policy to serve its own interests. As a congressman, Ron Paul knows that firsthand. If Israel wants Washington to declare Jerusalem as its capital, it is not a disinterested move. It will have consequences and could easily inflict serious collateral damage on the United States. I know Ron Paul is a true patriot, so he should look at foreign policy as an instrument for doing what is best for the American people, as the Founders envisioned. Moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem would do nothing but harm.
Read more by Philip Giraldi
- The New World Order is Unimpeachable – May 22nd, 2013
- Boston Becomes Toxic – May 15th, 2013
- Gatekeeping for Zion – May 9th, 2013
- Kristol Clear – May 1st, 2013
- What Has Bibi Been Doing? – April 24th, 2013





skulz fontaine
May 2nd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Thank you Mr. Giraldi, thank you and thank you once more. I read the article on Business Insider that quoted exactly what Ron Paul had to say about Israel and then I asked the Paul campaign directly. The Paul campaign verified to me, that in fact, Ron Paul had made the statements about Israel and that was that. Disturbing to say the least. To the point that I'm having to re-evalutate my support for Ron Paul. Damn, I hate that. I got conned in 2008 and I'll not get myself conned ever again.
So IF Ron Paul has gone all squishy soft on the issue of apartheid Israel, that will surely change everything. Oh yeah. Given the billions of US taxpayer dollars that are handed to Israel year after grinding year, the issue is important and strategically so.
@usernamenuse
May 2nd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
All we saw was some words he said, somewhere during the discussion. I'd like to see the immediately preceding question. In his answer he talks about it being Israel's business where its capital was, but there is no mention of embassies. I've never heard this come up anywhere else, so I can't fill in the blanks.
Truthster
May 2nd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Gimme a break.
I do not give a shit what RP says about the capital of the Apartheid state – as long as he remains in favor of cutting off all aid to the Aapartheid state.
@ZombietheDragon
May 2nd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Ron Paul can't make everyone happy. I believe that if he were talking about embassies, it "IS" none of our business where a foreign country has their capital. We are in the embassies of that host country for diplomacy only. We do not have have the right to dictate the country's laws or inner workings just because we pay them money no matter how much we dislike or disagree with the laws. Also at any point they can kick us out whether we gave them cash or not, so why risk giving it money in the first place. Most of the money is lent illegally-and why is it that billions of American tax dollars can easily be funneled to go to support Israel, Afghanistan, Iraq, and numerous other countries gov'ts, but yet every year when the gov't shuts down due to policymaker indecision, US troops are forced to work without pay. Let Israel dictate where we can be in their country, and let RP end the funding of other regimes at the cost of American troops families' livelihood. Just because the troops volunteered their lives in defense of this country doesn't mean that they should have to die penny-less to in order to further policy-makers' "preferences" of where Israel's capital is located…
Bianca
May 2nd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Well, I do not agree with you that "… we do not have the right to dictate the country's laws or inner workings just because we pay them money no matter how much we dislike or disagree with the laws." In fact, we do just that. We not only tell them what to do, but often DISMISS or REPLACE the leaders that are not sufficiently obedient when we happen to control them with our money. Israel is the only exception. They tell US what to do.
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@celebs4truth
May 2nd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
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sherban
May 2nd, 2012 at 11:37 pm
But Paul agreed the transfer of US embassy to Jerusalem in a private meeting with evangelicals who promised( Hagee,recently in Jerusalem) 100 million activists for Israel in ,policy and money.Gallup poll shows only 18% of US population are lays. And if Paul approved the attack on Osirak that mean that he is not completely anti war but he is only now ,not from moral or justice reasons,but for the fact that US are lack of money.
michael levine
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:15 am
I respectfully disagree with the great Phil Giraldi on this one. Ron Paul's position on Israel is to let them do whatever they want, no matter how loathsome their actions might, and surely would, be. Implicit in Ron Paul's position is that the U.S. will NEVER have Israel's back, no matter what they do. This means that Israel will effectively be constrained from doing ANYTHING they want, because the only reason they continually get away with their crimes is America's unconditional backing and veto power in the U.N. The "daylight" that Ron Paul would put between the U.S. and Israel will force Israel to either get along with its neighbors or perish as a nation state. Israel knows this, and this is why they fear Ron Paul and would never allow him to get elected. I believe the international community of nations would also understand how Ron Paul's position would restrain Israel and change the whole Middle East dynamic, and therefore America would no longer be blamed as complicit in Israel's actions.
Ron Johnson
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:27 am
Ron Paul is right on this one. If we are to have an embassy in Israel, it should be in the capital of Israel's choosing. However, in the Ron Paul world, the U.S. will not be funding the Israeli takeover of Jerusalem, so it is doubtful the Israelis would be able to move their capital.
Ron Paul has made it clear that, first and foremost, we need to stop sending money to prop up governments we like and punish governments we don't like. This embassy issue is a secondary, maybe even a minor, consideration. To his credit, he avoids getting sucked into the trap of dictating to another country what it must or must not do vis-a-vis its' own population or its' neighbors. If he were to take sides in the issue, it would, logically, lead to calls for support of the Palestinians, Hamas, and a host of unsavory characters. Rather than foster peace and understanding, it would foster intransigence and confrontation.
I dare say that his statement is akin to splitting hairs the way Jesus did in saying "give unto
Cesar what is Cesar's." Jesus was not endorsing Cesar, he was just saying that there was a more fundamental issue at stake.
George
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:33 am
I agree with all the points made in Mr. Giraldi's article. I would only add that since that private meeting with the evangelicals the RP campaign has not said a word on the web site or in the media about this issue. It may be that there has been some rethinking of RP's position since this meeting and/or there is more nuance to RP position than was being reported (and only the Business Insider is reported on this meeting).
greedrulesin dc
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:55 am
If Paul would quit sucking up to right wing evangelicals and instead emphasize his original anti-war and pro-civil liberties policies, he'd be further along and have a real shot. He could bring the left and right together. As I've said before, the people surrounding him–including his son–do not have his best interests at heart. They're more interested in furthering their own careers, and frankly, I think they've been trying to undermine Ron Paul's campaign from the start. They've wasted campaign money on ads about home-schooling and the anti-abortion issue, instead of emphasizing the most important anti-war, anti-NAFTA policies. There are some very damaging people inside that campaign, in my opinion.
LibertyRising
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:12 am
Dr. Paul got it exactly right. What the terrorist state of Israel does is none of our business. If they want to move our embassy to Jerusalem, we have two choices: comply, or move out. I would opt for the latter, along with Dr. Paul's stated intention to cut off all foreign aid – including that being sent to Israel.
If it's wrong for us to help Israel oppress the Palestinian people (no question about it), it is equally wrong to interfere to stop them. Those are the affairs of the people involved and we are not the people involved. The best we can do is refuse to assist. So, laws criminalizing boycott and divestiture of Israel should be stricken as well.
Dr. Paul's CONSISTENT message is one that needs to be heard and followed if we are to once again acquire the status of a free people: MYOB (mind your own business).
james
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:25 am
Haha, it is not of your business where a foreign country has its capital but it becomes yours when you decide to move your embassy there on occupied territories, this is only number 1.
Number 2 issue: When you start making concessions to the zio's your will be on a slow downhill trend. He is making concessions on the one subject that is making him such a popular politician. Just look at the Palestinian Authority when they started making concessions. These people do not know what is enough.
Shane
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:34 am
The same "Left" that swallowed Obama's bullshit hook, line, and sinker?
The same "Right" that never met a war it didn't LOVE?
Yeah, suuuuure….
Washingtonsucks
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:57 am
I agree, Ron Paul has made some concessions to the religious zealots of the Republican party to try to gain votes.
JoaoAlfaiate
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:04 am
Plse learn to spell "Caesar" and "its" before posting here.
guest
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Why don't we just change the name America to Israel, USI, they already have a capital in D,C, and we won't have to shell out about, say one billion, for a new embassy, complete with moat. Maybe then we could also get down to business with what is happening in this country rather than the other Israel. What's in a name anyway? :)
MoT
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:18 am
Those are tiny potatoes to be hanging ones faith on, Skulz. Look at all the hell our current rat bastard is doing and he claimed a diametrical opposite to it all back in 08. But, of course, he's a lawyer and that should have been your first clue not to believe him.
MoT
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
Please learn to spell please.
MoT
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
Roaches always scoot when the light is turned on. So I'm all for more daylight.
greedrulesin dc
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:40 am
No, not that "same" left, who swallowed Obama's bulls**t. There are people on the left who did not swallow it, and there are people on the left who swallowed it and now regret it.
No, not that "same" right who are gung-ho for continual war. There are people on the right who do not buy into these corporate wars, or if they did, they now regret it.
Both these groups would get behind Ron Paul if he'd get it together, quit listening to these advisors who are undermining his campaign, and focus on what's important: anti-war, pro-civil liberties, anti-NAFTA, and anti-FED.
Lorraine
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:11 am
I cannot know for sure, but being raised a Southern Baptist (as I believe Dr. Paul is affiliated), it has taken me 40 years to finally shake off the many denominational teachings about the eternal capitol of Jerusalem. Perhaps we should urge Dr. Paul to read a book I just finished, "Christian Zionists", by Stephen Sizer, which illuminates this particular mindset thoroughly. It has certainly resolved any lingering doubts I had about the eschatological and contraversial subject.
luther bliss
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
I had never looked into Paul's religious background but you are right that he is a Baptist (I'm not sure if a Southern Baptist though):
Ron Paul was raised a Lutheran and considered becoming a Lutheran minister (like two of his brothers) but Paul's 5 kids were baptised as Episcopalians.Ron Paul was
'born again' sometime ago and now he and his wife attend First Baptist Church of Lake Jackson, Texas.
In his statement of faith, Ron Paul writes, "Let me be very clear here: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate."
Speaking about the First Amendment, he says, "The mythical separation of church and state doctrine has no historical or constitutional basis. Neither the language of the Constitution itself nor the legislative history reveals any mention of such separation."
http://christianity.about.com/od/religionpolitics…
I talked to someone in my Tea Party about Ron Paul being a Baptist and she said:
"He must not be a very good one, else he would support Israel."
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?35048…
TwelveOhOne
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
Please be accepting of the mistakes of others, lest you make them yourself.
I don't think education was the issue, based on the rest of the content.
A more educated response that you could have written would go something like this: "Please note that the proper spelling is Caesar, and the word 'its' is confusing: when it is a contraction of 'it is', use 'it's', and when showing that the object owns something, there is no apostrophe, 'its' — which is in contrast to using a proper name, like referring to 'JoaoAlfaiate's car'."
Or, the TL;DR version: haters gonna hate, but I try to educate.
Jaime
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
At least Paul is being honest even though many of us disagree with his stance on this specific point. Even in the face of such wart, I think American should stick with Paul. He's the only hope not only for the US but also for the world.
Frank
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 am
This is similar to my comment. I agree with Phil that, if the quotes are accurate, I do not agree with them. However, these types of things would not even be an issue if US taxpayers stopped bankrolling Israel. Israel isn't being propped up by American words. Israel is being propped up by American $$$ and weapons.
Ben_C
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 am
I don't see much, if any, inconsistency here on Paul's part.
Additionally, I would say that: if moving the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem would translate into Paul winning the White House this election cycle, then I am all for it…in fact, I'll jump onto Travelosity and Orbits today and book my flight and hotel accommodations in Jerusalem for the ground breaking ceremony, where I'll make sure to be front and center, if that's required.
I admit that I'm not an expert on the "sensitivities" and nuances of the Israel/Palestinian conflict; however, my sense is that the likelihood of Israel turning the entire city of Jerusalem over to the "Palestinians" is comparable to the chances of a "1 state solution" occurring where there will be elections held through the entire disputed region to form a central government to rule over what is now generally referred to as "Israel" and "Palestine"–and I consider the chance of this happening in the next 100 years or so to be about 0% (give or take a margin of error of ~ 2%). I'm willing to bet on this.
If simply moving the US embassy to Jerusalem will create all sorts of "chaos"…then the "situation" is doomed. But I'll leave these matters up to the diplomatists to discuss…
I see the "issue" of 'selling' "bunker busters" and nuclear submarines to Israel much more of a "real", "relevant", and "serious" issue…but hey, that's just me…
A. G. Phillbin
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 am
I agree with what you say here (and above) regarding the type of coalition the Ron Paul campaign could and should be developing, which should be around such issues of the war(s), civil liberties, and opposition to NAFTA, which a good section of both the non-party loyal left and right can agree on, often for very different reasons. However, I don't have a problem with endorsing the largely symbolic transfer of the US embassy to Jerusalem. Paul has not changed his mind on funding Israel (or other foreign govts), so under a Paul administration (if Congress doesn't block him), Israel will be forced to maintain it's disputed claims to Jerusalem ON IT'S OWN DIME, not ours. Also, Paul has not changed position that the US should not back up the Israelis militarily in the event of a strike on Iran. Which is more important — symbolic concessions to neutralize an otherwise vehement opposition, or real withholding of blood and treasure?
part 1 0f 2
A. G. Phillbin
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 am
part 2 of 2
Similarly, on Paul's refusal to condemn the 1981 Osirak attack, isn't Paul simply being consistently non-interventionist? Or do you really buy into the idea that a non-condemnation = an endorsement? What Mr. Giraldi doesn't seem to get, along with many of the commenters here, is that non-interventionism doesn't mean switching the US's traditional support for Israel to support for it's enemies. It means we don't interfere, and that includes by opening our mouths in favor of one side or the other. That is often the prelude to very real intervention.
JoaoAlfaiate
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
It's just confusing to you.
A. G. Phillbin
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:20 am
More likely, it's less a question of getting their votes than of neutralizing them, so that these forces don't pour money and volunteers into the Romney campaign.
Phil Giraldi
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 am
But A.G, RP does not really claim to be a complete non-interventionist, does he? He supported intervention in Afghanistan and his guideline is that the use of military force has to be in the national interest and be constitutional. I am arguing that giving Israel a pass on Osirak did not serve the US national interest, which was that Iraq and similar countries should be part of the NPT if they want to develop a nuclear program.
JoaoAlfaiate
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
How many Israelis are there between the River and the Sea? How many Christians and Muslims? What are the demographic trends? How long did the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem last?
mick
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Who cares where the capital of Israel is. More important is to stop the imminent economic collapse of our own country. Already I look at our situation like a cartoon character who runs over a cliff and keeps running even though there is nothing underneath him. We have 5 years at the most, immediately at the least.
Jaime
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Ad-hominem attacks are not a good idea John.
A. G. Phillbin
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Yes, he supported US intervention in Afghanistan, but he did so, at least ostensibly, because it was believed that the Taliban govt. aided and abetted Al Qaeda. I thought so at the time, myself. I have been reconsidering, and certainly want the US out of there now.
Why would it be in the interests of the US to comment on Osirak, if we don't plan on doing anything about the attack in the first place? Why is the NPT in US interests? Does the US have a right to dictate who gets to build a nuclear weapon? How does the largest builder and stockpiler of nukes get to choose, and how many of it's own nukes does it give up with each new signatory?
By the way, your link on Paul's position on Osirak doesn't lead to anything about that, but to a Wikipedia article entitled "Positions on Jerusalem."
JoaoAlfaiate
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Right. And a Libertarian who is opposed to abortion has already made a rather large concession…
JoaoAlfaiate
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Thoughtful post. And thanks Dr Phil for bring this to every one's attention. Just how many evangelicals will now vote for Ron Paul? Maybe Paul is proceeding with son Rand in mind. In any event, I've written my last check to RP's campaign. Thanks again for saving me some bucks!
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russ
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
No his position on abortion is personal. His position as president would be for the states to decide as is written into the constitution.
Johnny Brainetree
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
It's an amazing thing to watch America unraveling, shedding its' once noble ideals and Constitution that once excited the wonder of the world. George Washington once made a statement to the effect, If after so great a morn, this nation fails, it will have only itself to blame. It's been a shocking thing to watch a great nation destroying itself from within, like former president Bush declaring, "The Constitution's just a [expletive deleted] dam piece of paper!" And our current president out-Bushing Bush in carrying on the dirty work, dismantling our Constitution, signing into law NDAA, etc., etc., covering his solemn vows before God and man to defend the Constitution with apologies and assurances that he won't be the one to use the police state powers he is accruing to himself, and a Congress with only a 13% approval rating only too happy to comply with the treacherous work of robbing us of our heritage, paying only lip service to that grand old document for which our so many shed their blood. History will not be kind!
Duglarri
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Actually it is our business where the capital is- if the country in question declares that its capital is in a place that is not in it's own territory! This is as if Poland asked us to move our embassy to a spot fifty kilometres inside Germany.
Jerusalem isn't Israeli territory. That's the problem.
shootist66
May 4th, 2012 at 2:10 am
LOL! Took the words right out of my mouth.
shootist66
May 4th, 2012 at 2:21 am
Exactly as it should be. The Tenth Amendment desperately needs reviving before the federal transformation of America into a fascist national security police state is complete…a la the evil Department of Homeland Security.
MoT
May 4th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I'll be the first to admit that I'm the worst at spelling or grammar. I just found this to be funny.
Kevin W. Cornell
May 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Brilliant article. I think it's safe to say that sometimes pure libertarian logic leads to unlibertarian results, precisely because governmental decisions don't occur in a vacuum.
zbowling
May 4th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
civil rights aren't protected by states.
zbowling
May 4th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Not stopping them from what they do to Palestinians is an amoral and immoral thing to do, considering past support for Israel is what has made their total control and continuing brutal occupation possible.
HIlary Clinton told the pakistanis -(paraphrasing) hey, you don't have to take our aid, but if you do there are concessions that have to be made. This is fantasy thinking that the US would be consistent and fair anyway. The israeli belligerence toward iran might be to get the world off their backs about this issue.
Curious
May 5th, 2012 at 12:42 am
I think Ron Paul would be right if the US stopped funding Israel's colonialism and treated it like a normal country. Israel is not an independent country. It is beholden to the US. If it wants to be free then it can demand a halt to the welfare checks and stop manipulating the US Government.
LibertyRising
May 5th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
I'm afraid that ship has already sailed. When you hear the volcano rumbling, it's time to pack your bags and start making your way off the slopes.
wrdalton
May 6th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Mr.Giraldi, can you explain to me how foreign diplomacy in Israel now works, if every country's embassy, including that of the U.S.A., is still in Tel Aviv? Where is the Israeli Foreign Office located, to which ambassadors are summoned for consultations with the Israeli Foreign Minister? Do they go to Jerusalem to meet Israeli officials? Do they restrict themselves to portions of Jerusalem within the 1967 borders, or do they enter the annexed old city and east Jerusalem? If they are doing this, are they not signifying their accession to Israel's claim to Jerusalem as its national capital? Is there any benefit to anyone, including Palestinians, for this continual motorcade of foreign diplomats between their offices in Tel Aviv and Israeli offices in Jerusalem? As long as any new embassy is built in pre-1967 Israel, what difference would it make for it to be in Jerusalem?
A. G. Phillbin
May 10th, 2012 at 11:34 am
And exactly how do you think the US should go about "stopping" the Israelis from doing what they do to the Palestinians, other than by not giving them any more money? Should the US use it's own troops to fight the Israelis? "Not stopping" them is precisely what the US should do, starting with cutting off the cash spigot, and not guaranteeing any assistance if their actions (such as attacking Iran) get them into trouble. Non-intervention means not interfering, ON ANY SIDE.
Aireck
May 10th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Is there an argument that WEST Jerusalem is occupied territory? If Israel wants to make that their capitol, wouldn't they have every right? Since they want all of Jerusalem, I suppose putting our embassy even there might make it look like we support them swallowing up the whole city. Cut off their aid. Then they might have to behave in the eyes of their neighbors and the world, but I don't see why they can't call any part of their pre-67 territory their capitol.
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Gogu
May 18th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Ron Paul is right – he is saying NO US involvement in their wars meaning it doesn't matter where a capital will be placed, without US war machine they can do NOTHING!!! he is very smart, get's everyone believe he makes concessions to Zion and actually he cuts all support…
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