President Barack Obama’s speech in Indonesia in which he conceded that the United States must do more to establish a good working relationship with many Muslim nations would have ranked as one of the more pathetic performances by an American president in recent years but for the fact that there have been so many awful performances to choose from. The president’s grammar and syntax were perfect and the speech was cleverly crafted, exactly what we have come to expect. It was replete with carefully designed pauses, Indonesian words and phrases, and some self deprecating humor, but it was characteristically bloodless and completely tone deaf. One almost longed to see Bill Clinton choking up and shedding a tear or two.
Obama’s spin team made a heroic effort to turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse. They likened the Indonesia speech to his Cairo offering seventeen months ago, in which he likewise committed his administration to establishing a new, more convivial modality for dealing with Islamic nations. That speech was received respectfully and even positively in many quarters, but this time no one was fooled. It’s funny how a year and a half of inaction and even retreat can reshape how someone thinks. One Indonesian commented afterwards "What will Obama do in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? If we don’t see any progress, what he says is just a speech."
Obama’s offering was full of the usual bromides, about how respectful he is of Islam and its traditions. He even touched on Israel-Palestine, not surprisingly blaming both sides for not taking the necessary courageous steps to find peace. It is a familiar argument for American audiences who are used to hearing that the conflict is bilateral, but did not go down well in Indonesia where the listeners are all too aware of the details of the brutal Israeli occupation.
What Obama should have said was that it has now become clear that Israel’s Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu has no desire for any peace agreement that does not provide for perpetual and absolute Israeli dominance over the Palestinians. He should have added that he knows that Netanyahu has nothing but contempt for him personally in the wake of the midterm election debacle and he might also observe that his ability to act independently is conditioned by the Israel Lobby so he can do nothing to help the Palestinians achieve statehood or even to recover a measure of dignity under Israeli occupation. He might admit that he has now been reduced to offering multi-billion dollar bribes of military equipment to Israel just to tempt it to suspend some settlement activity for ninety day. Obama’s words would not have changed reality on the ground, but at least he would have told the truth for a change and the candor would have been refreshing.
If Obama wants to establish some kind of modus vivendi with the Islamic world he must speak to it in language that it understands and not lie about things that all Muslims know to be true. And it is also past time that he begin to speak the truth to the American people also. His administration’s retreat from any confrontation with Israel in an attempt to make a recalcitrant Netanyahu conform even to minimal standards of behavior confirms what all the world already knows: Israel will act and the United States will follow, even if those actions will inflict grave damage on the American people and on the US national interest.
And what will that mean for the United States? It means that the decision about going to war for the US is essentially controlled by Israel because Tel Aviv can start a conflict with Iran at any time that will quickly draw Washington in. Those who think that the White House still is managing the situation are completely naïve. There is no indication that the Obama administration has warned Israel against bombing Iran because the US has no cards to play, having ruled out exerting any sort of economic or military pressure on Netanyahu. And there should be no doubt that an attack by Israel on an Iranian nuclear facility would trigger Iranian retaliation and immediate calls in Congress and the media to support Tel Aviv, leaving the president no option but to enter the conflict. A third war in the region would mean goodbye to any American ability to disengage from the other conflicts that are bleeding the US white and would possibly lead to even more dire consequences if neighbors like nuclear armed Pakistan and India somehow enter the fray.
Bibi Netanyahu surely understands that the cost to the United States in lives and treasure from war with Iran could potentially be catastrophic but it is a price he is willing to pay as his own people and economy would largely be spared, at least initially. No American leader should tolerate such a situation but, deplorably, those who have spoken out at all on the Middle East have lined up behind the Israelis as if they were part of the United States, or even more esteemed than any of the fifty states. Vice President Joe Biden told the Jewish Federations of North America annual gathering in New Orleans last week that "the ties between our two countries are literally unbreakable" and described how he is "absolutely certain that our support for Israel must continue … forever," echoing similar statements made by both Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Obama. Biden knows full well that Israeli and US interests do not coincide and his comments amount to political pandering of the worst sort. It is even more disconcerting to think that he might actually mean what he says.
Meanwhile Steny Hoyer, who calls himself a Zionist and frequently expresses his love for Israel, and has spoken of "our responsibility to stand by Israel and the Jewish people," is poised to take over as Minority Whip in the House of Representatives. On the other side of the aisle, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Eric Cantor are unrelenting advocates of Israel who are about to step into senior positions in the Republican dominated congress. Cantor recently met privately with Bibi Netanyahu and said the Republican Party would serve "as a check on" the Obama Administration over its policies in the Middle East. Then "He made clear that the Republican majority understands the special relationship between Israel and the United States, and that the security of each nation is reliant upon the other." In other words, Cantor was meeting with the leader of a foreign country and promising to do whatever he could to influence and even subvert the foreign policy of his own country. Think about that one for a minute or two.
And while Cantor, Hoyer, Biden and company are ceding US national security to the Israelis, who actually is calling the shots on shaping American policy? None other than the redoubtable Dennis Ross, perched in the National Security Council as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for the Central Region. Ross, who has been described as Israel’s lawyer, is poison in the very heart of the policy making apparatus. He recently spoke at an AIPAC Conference in Hollywood Florida where he said "Just last week, I participated in the US-Strategic Dialogue, a biannual event that includes a comprehensive exchange of views on regional issues crucial to both the United State and Israel. But more importantly, the Strategic Dialogue is just one of many, ongoing, and high-level exchanges that occur regularly between the United States in Israel. I’m not aware of another country that we engage more regularly on such a wide range of issues. These types of exchanges not only provide opportunities for discussion of ideas on policy, but they also help solidify connections between our two governments. Over the last two years, I have seen four-star generals, intelligence officers, and high-ranking diplomats all develop personal relationships with their Israeli counterparts. Frankly, this degree of coordination is unprecedented. I have participated in these types of discussions for the last 30 years, and they have never been as intense or focused, reflecting the serious cooperation that we have today with Israel. But our commitment to Israel’s security is defined not by talk. It is defined by the kinds of actions and deeds that help make both of our countries safer and stronger in the face of common threats."
So if you doubt that the United States is tied hand and foot to Israel in terms of its ability to take independent action in the Middle East, just listen to what Dennis Ross, Joe Biden, and Eric Cantor are saying. Does it sound like they are articulating policies beneficial to the US? They are insisting that Americans have to support Israel unquestioningly no matter what it does and are little more than advocates for monsters like Bibi Netanyahu, pure and simple. The word Quisling comes to mind when one thinks of them and also Hoyer and Ros-Lehtinen. If their failure to be truly loyal to the country that has nurtured them brings about a new war in which many of their fellow citizens will die, their actions and posturing should be defined by one and all as treason. If America is to be taken back in a new revolution that will lead to a restoration of the vision of the Founding Fathers it will only take place after the betrayers of our constitution are removed from government, every single one of them. When American politicians and senior government officials speak of their love of a foreign government that pursues policies inimical to US values and interests they should be disowned by every true patriot and also by every respectable media outlet. It should be grounds for their immediate removal.
Read more by Philip Giraldi
- The New World Order is Unimpeachable – May 22nd, 2013
- Boston Becomes Toxic – May 15th, 2013
- Gatekeeping for Zion – May 9th, 2013
- Kristol Clear – May 1st, 2013
- What Has Bibi Been Doing? – April 24th, 2013





TheDailySketch
November 18th, 2010 at 1:33 am
That old quip that "US Congress is Israeli-held territory" is as accurate as ever: , and Sharon's comment "We control America" is still true today. B ut it's not only the US. Europe as well is Israeli-controlled territory too.
Meanwhile, on the subject of the rogue state, documents released show that the blockade of Gaza is state policy intended to inflict collective punishment, not to bolster Israeli “security”.
See the new Media Lens media alert:
MEDIA BURY DOCUMENTS REVEALING ISRAEL’S DELIBERATE POLICY OF NEAR-STARVATION FOR GAZA http://www.medialens.org/alerts/10/101117_put_the…
Raashid
November 18th, 2010 at 2:11 am
According to numerous polls don't the majority of people in the US support expending their blood and treasure to protect Israel? I mean the southern Christians believe it is a religious duty and I'd imagine the rest of the secular liberals believe it is a duty out of solidarity with a fellow Western people with similar values and lifestyles to themselves.
Has there ever been a concerted effort by any lobby group to oppose support for Israel, on the grounds that it is detrimental to US interests? Would such attempts even get any sort of sympathetic ear? When I speak to most Westerners they consider the notion that staying out of other people's fights to be abhorrent, like it's immoral to not help the side that's in the "right" in the conflict.
Johnny in Wi.
November 18th, 2010 at 3:51 am
Phil: This is one great essay. You live by the words. The truth will set you free. The traitors that put another power before their own country belong at the end of of a gibb, not in charge of the government. Biden, Ross, Obama, Ross, Letinan, Bush, Cheney, Hoyer, Pelosi, Napitoltano etc. have bankrupted the country and stuck us in endless wars for Israel.
jojo
November 18th, 2010 at 5:36 am
Expose them as the real terrorists of 9/II attacks. Cattle Rustlers–ordinary folks put a swift stop to the trade
bogi666
November 18th, 2010 at 6:01 am
Phillip said it all. Aid to Israel, a theocracy, should be challenged on constitution grounds, that prohibits the USG from supporting religion, separation of church and state. The constitution has no exemptions and doesn't restrict this to the USA.The USG gives more aid to Israel than it give to some States in need. The Zionists take the USG for the fool that it is.
keith
November 18th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Very simple, you voted them in, you vote them out.
tomofsnj
November 18th, 2010 at 6:21 am
but it is a price he is willing to pay as his own people and economy would largely be spared'
More and more people of the USA are understanding that Bibi is willing to get our kids killed for his political gains. If Israel wants another war to expand then let the chose do the bleeding. We have enough dead kids for their benefit.
liveload
November 18th, 2010 at 6:25 am
Giraldi for President !!
MvGuy
November 18th, 2010 at 7:01 am
How much does the U.S. support for policies of land theft by Israel cost the American taxpayers… Don't forget the TSA groping children when you add it up…!! "Welcome to Terrorland" http://bit.ly/aczcxO
zouppie
November 18th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Being a coward and a traitor are both requirements for holding Federal office. Is there an American politician on the horizon who might put the the welfare of the American people before the demands of the Israeli cabal? Has there been any reporting in the MSM of Netanyahu's latest extortion? Will Obama, of the empty scrotum, resists Israel demand to provide the cannon fodder for it's aggression against Iran?
I believe the answers are no, no, and no.
Schmul
November 18th, 2010 at 7:53 am
What is the US going to do about Israel to please the Muslim world? Good question, Mr. Philip Giraldi.
And while you're in a question asking mood, here's another one, just as an example:
What is the Muslim world going to do about the fact that the few remaining Christians in, say, Turkey, are discriminated against, can barely repair their few remaining Christians and that these few Chrisitians (less than 100,000 now) are the remnants of genocide that Turkey committed but which it will not acknowledge against Christian Assyrians, Hellenes, and Armenians? In fact, what is the "Christian" West going to do about it?
Why is it that you seem to have an obsession about Israel and the Muslim world, and then look the other way when Muslims persecute Christians? I have two answers: 1. You like to pick on Israel.
2. You want to blame blame blame the US for everything. 3. You are not much of a Christian.
Can you spell PHONY, Mr. Philip Giraldi?
GradyWilson
November 18th, 2010 at 8:20 am
"According to numerous polls don't the majority of people in the US support expending their blood and treasure to protect Israel?" – Raashid
Of course not but in foreign policy, just like economic policies – the will of the people must be subjugated. Right wing hatred of and opposition to democracy is the foundation for this to happen. People do not get to vote on so called "free trade" agreements or foreign policy committments and neither are enacted for the good of the nation or the people – they are for the interests of a privileged ruling elite (who just happen to be wealthy capitalists I have to add).
I respect Mr. Giraldi greatly but I disagree about how he frames the US/Israeli relationship.The US is the dominant colonial state and Israel is the (completely) dependent client state. Israel only has as much 'leverage' as the US wants to give it. Despite the rhetoric and theatrics its hard to believe that TelAviv has control over its economic, military and safety provider Washington. Some in Washington like to play the role of the submissive but it is Washington and the Pentagon who are dominant in this relationship.
Kelley
November 18th, 2010 at 8:34 am
At the risk of looking self-serving, I'd like to point out that antiwar is one of the few places you can find this level of truth-telling. While everyone else tip-toes around the obvious from their respective partisan playpens, Mr. Giraldi puts himself on the line everyday with this stuff. and we're grateful!
MvGuy
November 18th, 2010 at 8:36 am
to question No. 1, …Stop taking [stealing] the Palestinian land that Israel has occupied , collective punishment, using banned weapons on civilians ….are a few……. What would YOU suggest..??
John Uebersax
November 18th, 2010 at 8:48 am
@Schmul
> can you spell "PHONY"
ad hominem attack
> Christians … discriminated against
1. red herring argument
2. redirecting of argument
3. "waving the bloody flag"
4. compensatory injustice fallacy
Nowhere does Mr. Giraldi suggest or imply insensitivity to the plight of Christians in the Middle East. He's simply writing an article about a different topic. If you would like to write an article about other injustices in the Middle East, no doubt people would read it with interest. However ,were you to do so, I don't think a proper response would be, "you are a phony, because you right about these injustices without mentioning the injustices of Israeli rejectionists."
@auditnerd
November 18th, 2010 at 8:55 am
The administration treats explicitly racist Israel with much more respect than it does our own states.
The double standards are enraging. We can not allow this to become a Christian vs Muslim holy war for the benefit of Israel. It is well past time for white, black and Hispanic Americans to demand the the Israel/Jewish lobby cease and desist their warmongering. How many Persians and Arabs must die? How many Americans must die? How much money must be spent before we say "No more god damn warmongering!!!!".
John Uebersax
November 18th, 2010 at 8:57 am
@Schmul
> a Christian
Opposite to your remark, would not the Christian ethical principle be to put aside self-interest long enough to defend the rights of others — in this case, Palestinians and Iranians? Christians are instructed to forgive enemies. Therefore if one were to criticize someone of not being Christian, it would seem more logical to do so because they fail to forgive enemies.
@auditnerd
November 18th, 2010 at 8:58 am
I, a conservative Catholic, lived in Turkey. I suffered no discrimination. For Easter even conservative Muslims came to my home. Easter!! They invited me to their house for Iftar. The Turks, like the Persians and Arabs, are wonderful people who are being driven to the point of insanity by the constant meddling and war mongering of Israel.
No. The problem is not that the Arabs, Turks and Persians are war mongers. No.
zion
November 18th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Why Liberman is paving the way to war with Iran when USIP,Stimson Center, 44 experts and Robert gates are warning against on the ground of irreparable damage to US interest? Why Krystol is teaming up with Liberman in promoting the virtue of an attck when 44 experts from congressionally financed study group came out with proposal to engage with Iran,to remove military threat from the context and to work fro resolution of the problem with honest intent? { http://www.atimes.com 11-17-10, http://www.lobelog.com 11-18-10}
Liberman and Krystol and Nethanoo would be the first person to deny any culpability when things get wrong for US interests after an attack. Thats exactly what happened in the wake of the Iraq war.
APatriot
November 18th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Why do we pick on Israel, and not Turkey: several reasons. For one, Turkey doesn't claim to represent us: "Western Civilization." Israel makes this claim.
Turkey does not assert that it is the duty of the West to defend it. Israel does.
Turkey pays it's own way, and fights it's own wars. We're paying for Israel's bullets; we're paying for their walls; we pay for their prisons, in which they hold their enemies; we pay for their expansion of settlements that guarantee peace will never happen- as that is their purpose. We are fighting their wars.
Without us, Turkey is still there. On the other hand, without American money and above all, intense political cover at forums like the UN, just how long do you think Israel would last?
Johnny in Wi.
November 18th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Grady:Clinton along with a lot of Republicans gave us the NAFTA and GAT treaties. It is truely bi-partisan. An old Leninist like you should welcome the universalism of free trade. What happened to that old socialist spirit of brotherhood? Congress is Israeli occupied territory and everyone knows it. Our congress and leaders don't defy Israel, Their leadership routinely defies our leadership, with no consequences. The Tail has been wagging the Dog for 62 years. You are right that Israel could not survive without our endless support. The problem is that they own most of our political class, so they will have our endless support. They will have that support even if our own people are starving.
GradyWilson
November 18th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Clinton and the Dems also ended Glass-Stegall which allowed the capitalist banks to create 'derivitives' which created the economic crisis. You don't have to teach me about Democrat complicity in advancing neo-liberal free trade policies which enrich a few capitalists at the expense of the majority of citizens. Again – this can only happen in an undemocratic fashion. Libertarian hatred and opposition to democracy makes them complicit.
What's a joke though – is your and Justin's cheerleading for the Tea Party / Republicans who are the most passoniate defenders of Israel and want to wage war against Iran.
And tails don't wag dogs. Doesn't happen. Israel is a submissive client state to the US. Pretending TelAviv controls Washington is not only like claiming water flows uphill it distracts attention away from the real perpetrators of US imperialism and borders on anti-semitism.
Shaun
November 18th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
"Can you spell PHONY, Mr. Philip Giraldi? "
I can, it's: S-C-H-M-U-L
david
November 18th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
One of Giraldi's fans above said, "Giraldi for President" and this is exactly the point. He would lose because of his views on Israel, zionists, more specifically Christian Zionists, democrats and republicans as well as independents.
He has every right to his views. I won't even try to debate him or his supporters. But poll after poll in our country shows a strong bond with the Jewish State. In fact a recent gallup poll showed this support at an all time high. I believe this acts as a sort of "check" on Mr. Obama. In effect, our public support for Israel wags the dog in the case of Obama.
Grass root support for zionism and the Jewish State is at an all time high. Despite the protestations of various pundits such as Giraldi et al, most Americans do not share Mr. Giraldi's views concerning Israel, zionism or American Jews. I should add: thank god.
david
November 18th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
The moment the American people choose Mr. Giraldi's vision and supported slate of politicians, America will pull away from Israel. But in our country, we do not bow down to the views of individual pundits whose views are not within the mainstream.
Thank god we live in a democracy. God bless America.
david
November 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Is it the tribe that one of our "founders" George Washington welcomed so warmly? Shalom.
david
November 18th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Kelley, but you do support the fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans support the Jewish State? And quite strongly. You do appreciate that Mr. Giraldi does not command the silent majority vis-a-vis Israel and his views are out of the mainstream? I always like to remind the Giraldi's and fellow travelers that their opinions are their own and that the people of Israel live!
david
November 18th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Long live America. Long live Israel.
sick of it
November 18th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
NOT ONE DROP OF MY KIDS BLOOD!!!
DO you remember the LIBERTY J. Bidden and H. Clinton?
How can you sleep at night after selling out our country?
Well, I will not support Israel.
Try and make me!
Greg
November 18th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
That the most assinine thing I've read in a while.
fedupandsick
November 18th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Americans are ignorant. They'd rather watch reality tv than get informed. So enjoy yourself and when the bodybags start arriving from our next war for israel, just thank god.
Mr. Moto
November 18th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
"In other words, Cantor was meeting with the leader of a foreign country and promising to do whatever he could to influence and even subvert the foreign policy of his own country. Think about that one for a minute or two."
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Yes, yes. It's all true. But other than a few antiwar readers, who else is listening? No one in government, certainly. It seems that sooner or later Israel will bring the United States down. The tentacles of the lobby have reached deep into Congress and the White House and seem to have gained complete and total control of out government with respect to Middle East policy. For the life of me I don't see how we ever shake loose of this. Sigh…
Johnny in Wi.
November 18th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Grady: Now I get the point, borders on anti-semitism. Just another thug trying to surpress free thought. Israel and it's goon squad are all over the internet pushing such a pile of hooey that you are trying to sell. It wasn't the Muslims who tanked the economy, or have us involved in endless losing wars for Israel. They don't own most of our political class, using bribery, blackmail, or intimidation. It certainly wasn't the libertarians except for the Randians, who love Israel more than liberty. It wasn't the paleo conservatives who have been resiting the warmongers and Israeli Lobby for a couple of decades.
John_Mohammad
November 18th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
I trust Israel no more than any other den of jackals. The US capitulation to Israeli interests is sickening, and all it accomplishes is to worsen world opinion of us in the eyes of the world- and add to the already impressive list of enemies we've managed to cultivate since we embarked on this course of national suicide-by-zionism. WHY is it in our interest to 'defend Israel for all eternity'? Will JB say that on the day Israeli warplanes attack the next US naval vessel and call it a 'mistake'? Will he say that the next time Israeli agents are seen dancing as another US building is brought down in a hostile action they knew about yet didn't share the information with us? Will he say that when our ever-increasing enemies TELL us point-blank "we are fighting you because you support Israel and it's terrorist actions and apartheid policies"? Will he say we must defend Israel for all eternity when the next US citizen is shot by IDF soldiers, or another young woman is run over by an Israeli bulldozer in broad daylight? Will he say that if Pollard is released and even more treachery is revealed while Israel lauds him as a national hero?
Not only is JB an idiot for saying such things, but as the VP of the US he should be heavily censured and/or forced to step down for such statements. Israel is a millstone around the neck of every US citizen, and we will all wither and die under its weight until we shake it off.
Johnny in Wi.
November 18th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
I have been saying the same thing all over the internet. Aid to Israel violates the 1st, 5th, and the spirit of the 14th amendments to the Constitution. The Ist Amendment forbids one religion to be supported over another. The 5th Amendment forbids discrimination because of race or religion. The 14th Amendment was passed to end the unequal tratment of people because of race. Israel is a racist, thoecracy which violates everthing this country stands for. Our first great document ' The Declaration of Independence ' states all men are created equal. Israel and idea of a Jewish state is against everything America stands for. That we have give such an abomination hundreds of billions of dollars is a disgrace.
Johnny in Wi.
November 18th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Aid To Israel violates the 1st Amendment in that it gives one particular religion a huge financial subsidy. It violates the 5th amendment in thatIsrael violates basic human right of it's Arab citizens and non citizens under Israeli control. Aid to Israel should be attacked in the courts using the vast file of cases that the ADL and other antichristian groups have used to stop any money going to Christian groups.
Schmul
November 19th, 2010 at 9:45 am
No, Mr. Giraldi and the hate-Israel group have nothing to say about Muslim discrimination against Christians. They don't care. Oh, but they're so high and holy when it comes to Israeli treatment of Palestinians. I don't defend Isreal. I am pointing out your one-sidedness and your bias. You are off balance.
And Giraldi and the hate-Israel group have nothing to say about the fact that Turkey, to whom the US provides all sorts of weapons intelligence, annihilated its Christian Hellenes (Greeks), Armenians, and Assyrians, That is why Turkey has hardly any Christians left. Do you care? No.
Yet, when it comes to IMF aid to Turkey (which Turkey still gets) and political support for Turkish membership in the EU, the US always goes to bat for Turkey. If you are an Armenian in Turkey, be careful or you will wind up dead like the journalist Harant Dink. Armenians find it hard to repair a church roof. So do Greeks. Assyrians priests and Protestant ministers are shot dead. Do you hate-Israel people care? Nope.
Schmul
November 19th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Turkey occupies Cyprus with US-supplied weapons. Do you care? No. You only care that Israel uses US weapons. How about Egypt's bad treatment of Christian Copts? Does the hate-Israel crowd care? Nope.
But Giraldi and his hate-Israel crowd could not care less. Christians and Kurds are being discriminated against by US-supported Turkey. Hey, who cares? There is only one bogeyman in the Middle East: Israel. You people lack any sort of political balance or fairness. You don't even know the meaning of the word balance.
Giraldi, who worked for the CIA doing who-knows-what and probably supporting Israel somehow somewhere, now turns against Israel as if it's the most evil country in the entire Middle East.
Where is your sense of balance? Where is your ability to be the slightest bit objective?
KHarbaugh
November 19th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
As I recall some years ago several authors,
including George Ball and Alfred Lilienthal,
attempted to assess in dollar terms
the total cost of American support over the years for the Jewish state.
Is anyone aware of more recent reasonable attempts to assess that cost?
Perhaps a snapshot of the cost up to a single date,
but ideally one that is periodically updated.
There is Mearsheimer and Walt’s excellent 2007 The Israel Lobby,
but it gives a qualitative rather than quantitative assessment.
Jeremiah
November 19th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
You'll find that most bona fide anti-interventionists are *not* supporters of direct or indirect US military aid to *any* country—and this goes for Turkey and Egypt, too. *Any* "special relationship" that entails an unquestioning political, economic and/or ideological embrace of a foreign nation, whether in war or (what's rarer) in peace, is destructive of the liberty and prosperity of the American people. In fact, as far as *this* anti-interventionist is concerned, the governments of Turkey, Egypt *and* Israel can *all* go to the devil on their own. Why should the American people and their posterity be expected to flip the bill for tyrants, occupiers, and zealots of any religious or ethnic stripe?
radkelt
November 19th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
aid to Israel violates the Symington Amendment, the Arms Export Control Act, and Article VI, section
2 of the US Constitution.
Thomas L. Knapp
November 24th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Note to the individual who has "reported" 10 comments on this thread in the last 40 minutes, all said "reports" based on the fact that he supports Israel and the people he's "reporting" don't:
The moderators at Antiwar.com act on bona fide reports of, e.g. anti-semitic hate language with deletion and commenter banning … when we can. Your childish abuse of the comment reporting system to grind an ax just means more garbage for us to wade through in attempting to do that job. So much so that if the abuse doesn't stop, your ability to reach us with actual reports will.
Regards,
Tom Knapp
RIchard Fuerle
November 25th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Nice try, but wrong. The first amendment prohibits the establishment of religion – in the U.S. It does not prohibit supporting a foreign theocracy.
bogi666
November 26th, 2010 at 3:08 am
Your points are well taken. The 1st Amendment does not restrict the USG only to the USA, though. Israel is a Jewish theocracy, established for that purpose. The 1st Amendment, like you say,prohibits the USG establishment of religion and does not restrict this prohibition. No matter, no one in congress will ever bring this point up and the SCOTUS would proceed to eliminate the Constitution anyway just by not hearing the case.