Does anyone remember the movie The Boys from Brazil? It told the story of how a group of top Nazis had moved to Brazil where they made a number of clones of Hitler-as-a-child that were being strategically placed around the world to eventually bring about a Fourth Reich. The movie ended ambiguously, with many of the Hitler children still alive and evidently expected to eventually turn into Hitler adults. The movie makers were clearly on to something because there have been a lot of Hitler sightings by Israel and its friends over the past few years. Saddam Hussein was described as a new Hitler while Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been depicted in even more heinous terms as a reborn Nazi leader preparing a new Holocaust. More recently Israel demonstrators have displayed effigies of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan with the hairline altered and a moustache added to create a caricature of Hitler.
The Turkish prime minister’s Hitler-like leanings first appeared when he dared confront Israel’s President Shimon Peres at an international meeting in Davos in January 2009. Referring to the slaughter of Gazan civilians earlier that month, Erdogan told Peres "…you know well how to kill." But if there was any lingering doubt, Erdogan definitely became Hitler through his support of the flotilla that sought to bring aid to Gaza three weeks ago followed by his denunciation of the massacre initiated by Israeli commandos. His diabolical intent was made manifest when he then demanded justice for the nine Turkish citizens who were murdered. Hitlerization is the price one inevitably pays for criticizing Israel or opposing its policies.
Whenever Israel discovers that yet another foreign nation has turned Nazi and is intent on recreating the Holocaust, the American lap dog soon picks up the scent. Andrew Sullivan has recently described the phenomenon as "Israel Derangement Syndrome," which he describes as a "…form of derangement, or of such a passionate commitment to a foreign country that any and all normal moral rules or even basic fairness are jettisoned. And you will notice one thing as well: no regret whatsoever for the loss of human life, just as the hideous murder of so many civilians in the Gaza war had to be the responsibility of the victims, not the attackers. There is no sense of the human here; just the tribe."
The Gaza flotilla has been handled by the mainstream media in precisely that fashion – blaming the victim with a unanimity that overwhelms both justice and fairness. No humanity, no mention of the deliberate attempt to starve Gaza most recently endorsed by alleged United States Senator from New York Charles Schumer who said "strangle them economically." Or, if one prefers the wisdom of Representative Eliot Engel, also from New York, the flotilla was "filled with hate-filled provocateurs bent on violence." Confronted by such hatred it is surprising that the Israeli commandos were so restrained, killing only nine passengers and wounding about forty more.
As the popular narrative in the media has unfolded, Turkey was the aggressor and Israel yet again the victim. Turkey now has to be punished. Congress is already considering passing the frequently shelved Armenian Genocide resolution and Representative Mike Spence warns "There will be a cost if Turkey stays on its present heading of growing closer to Iran and more antagonistic to the State of Israel." Representative Shelley Berkley agrees, saying that she would actively oppose Turkey’s attempt to join the European Union. Just exactly how she will do that is not completely clear.
The American media and the punditry in Washington has obediently been lining up to condemn Ankara, using two basic arguments. The first contention is that Turkey has become a stronghold of Islamism, is edging towards a political and economic alliance with Iran, and is even acting friendly to terrorism-supporting neighbors like Syria. The second narrative is that Turkey is no longer reliable due to its support of initiatives like the flotilla and also its bid to negotiate a solution to the Iranian nuclear program dilemma.
Those who know Turkey well realize that the country’s Islamism is a reflection of the simple fact that many Turks are deeply religious. It does not mean that Turkish democracy is dead and the desire to make the state more reflective of religious sentiment will be held in check by the many Turks in the judiciary and military who see themselves as guardians of the secular constitution. Educated Turks in liberal urban environments are also frequently not religious at all and many are hostile to expressions of piety. It is absolutely in the United States’ national interest to encourage the development of political systems in Muslim majority countries that accommodate both democratic pluralism and religiosity. Turkey is far from perfect but it is a good example of how such a system might develop and should be encouraged, not subject to criticism that really has nothing to do with the Turks themselves and everything to do with Israel.
As for the claim that Turkey is sliding eastward, Turks have always seen themselves as a bridge between east and west and establishing a modus vivendi with one’s neighbors is just good politics and good business in the Near East. As for the charge that Turkey is no longer reliable, one only has to note that nearly the entire world excepting only Israel supports the lifting of the siege of Gaza while many nations welcomed Turkey and Brazil’s initiative to resolve the stand-off over Iran’s nuclear ambitions. The United States, inevitably lining up in support of Israel and seemingly willing to go to war with Iran on Tel Aviv’s behalf, is, as usual, politically isolated in its support of policies that will go nowhere and accomplish nothing.
The hysteria about Turkey is, if anything, more intense at the various neocon think tanks and in their websites on the internet where leading supporters of Israel are calling not only for punishing Turkey but also for kicking it out of NATO. The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) has led the charge. JINSA is the home base of leading neocons to include John Bolton, Michael Ledeen, Joshua Muravchik, Richard Perle and Kenneth Timmerman. A JINSA report issued on June 8th cited Turkey for its "anti-Semitic ravings" and recommended that Washington "seriously consider suspending military cooperation…as a prelude to removing it" from NATO. The hue and cry was shortly thereafter picked up by the other neocon heroes who continue to feature on the mainstream media in spite of their inability to get anything right. The National Review Online’s Victor Davis Hanson called Turkey a "…sponsor of Hamas, ally of theocratic Iran, and fellow traveler with terrorist sponsoring Syria" conditions that are "antithetical to its NATO membership." Professor Eliot Cohen of Johns Hopkins University added in a June 7th Wall Street Journal op-ed that "A combination of Islamist rule, resentment at exclusion from Europe, and a neo-Ottomanist ideology that envisions Turkey as a great power in the Middle East have made Turkey a state that is often plainly hostile not only to Israel but to American aims and interests."
In a Weekly Standard article on June 21st, Elliot Abrams chimed in with more of the same, observing that "it’s obvious that our formerly reliable NATO ally Turkey has become a staunch supporter of the radical camp. In the flotilla incident, it not only sided with but also sought to strengthen the terrorist group Hamas." As always the neocons speak with one voice in defense of Israel, making it appear that the entire process is orchestrated, which, of course, it is. Will the neocons marginalize Ankara and succeed in forcing Turkey out of NATO? Difficult to say, but one should fully expect moves by Congress to do just that or to pressure Turkey in such a way as to make Ankara withdraw from the alliance.
Turkey is a vital strategic partner for Washington. With its large population and thriving economy, it might well be the indispensible nation in the arc of states running from the Mediterranean to central Asia. It has a long history of friendship towards the United States combined with a national interest that compels it to encourage stability among the countries that it borders and more broadly throughout the Middle East. In spite of misgivings about specific policies, it houses a major US airbase at Incirlik and has supported Washington’s nation building efforts in Afghanistan. But now it must be punished because it has crossed the line by opposing the kleptocracy Israel. And it will be punished, first pilloried in the US media, a process which is underway right now, and then by the US Congress and White House, which will together find some subtle and not-so-subtle ways to bring Ankara to heel. And the loser in all of this will be the American people, who will alienate a good and staunch friend in the Middle East and make another unnecessary enemy.
Read more by Philip Giraldi
- Terrorizing Through Lawfare – May 23rd, 2012
- House Passes Stealth Legislation – May 16th, 2012
- A Tipping Point for Israel – May 9th, 2012
- Ron Paul Gets One Wrong – May 2nd, 2012
- Washington Felons Fret Over Hanky-Panky in Cartagena – April 25th, 2012





Mike
June 24th, 2010 at 5:13 am
What a bunch of nonsense about Turkey being a good staunch ally of the US!
Turkey betrayed the US by not supporting the northern front option for the Iraq mission in 2003 causing more US deaths in Iraq. In 1974 Turkey invaded and continues to occupy 37 percent of the Republic of Cyprus. The Turks were ordered out by multiple UN resolutions after murdering and raping the Greek-Cypriots in an orgy of violence that resulted in an ethnically cleansed northern part of this overwhelmingly Greek island. Turkey continues to blockade Armenia causing major hardship for the people whose ancestors survived the Genocidal actions of the Ottoman Turks.
Mike
June 24th, 2010 at 5:13 am
The Republic of Turkey was founded as a nation in 1923 after committing the first Genocide of the 20th century from 1914-1922 with the murder and forced exile of the Christian Anatolian (Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians) population who had inhabited the land for thousands of years before the Turkish conquest. Turkey does not respect religious freedom, persecutes and steals the land of the remaining Greeks and Armenians who have been subjected to brutal pogroms instigated by the Turkish government.
The Turks have literally gotten away with murder because the west desperately wanted them as an ally and now their true colors are showing and it is time for the world to unite against this rogue nation.
Ian
June 24th, 2010 at 5:30 am
Obviously, you don't have an axe to grind.
epppie
June 24th, 2010 at 5:37 am
The point that seems to be missed again and again is that there is no tail wagging the dog; instead, the US and Israel are jointly set on a project of global domination, together with more or less junior partners in NATO.
And they are succeeding brilliantly.
sherban
June 24th, 2010 at 5:41 am
You jump directly on a peak of hypocrisy .It is amazing how a bunch of people can write the history how they want.Many,many years Israel denied the holocaust of Armenian with Shimon Peres in head of the drivelers.Shimon Peres has said that claims of an Armenian Genocide are "meaningless".The refuse of Turkey to allow the invasion of Iraq through Turkey although a bribe of 10 milliard was offered,shows Turkey a country with dignity in an infected world.Making the idiocy of attacking Flotilla puts her in a total isolation and shows Turkey as a real free and civilized country.
Cassandra
June 24th, 2010 at 7:34 am
People all over the world use Hitler when they want to make a point. Israel’s leaders are often depicted as reincarnations of Hitler and other Nazis. The swastika is always being superimposed over a star of David, or vice-versa. Giraldi is highly selective in his judgments here. He sees everything through a prism of Israel-hatred.
Any sane, objective observer can see that Erdogan deserves censure for being an extremist. He bullies and arrests members of his own military, the guardians of Turkish secularism; he mistreats Kurds and Armenians; he warmly embraces the radical extremist presiding over Iran; his bellicose rhetoric, as well as that of his foreign minister, is absolutely off the rails with ludicrous hyperbole.
There's always a fierce propaganda war going on, so naturally both sides will pull out all the stops. But Erdogan has certainly earned a great deal of the criticism coming his way, Giraldi's protestations to the contrary.
Zia
June 24th, 2010 at 12:59 am
As usual, the whole world is wrong – and only Israel can be right. Incredible how Zionist apologists invoke UN resolutions when it applies to everyone other than the "chosen" lot. One would almost wonder if the Turks were wrong all along to have provided refuge to Jews persecuted throughout Europe.
If standing up to injustice and criminal conduct is out of vogue with Zionists and their American lapdogs, it reflects well on Turkey. And, it is to the eternal shame of America's founding fathers that a racist group can today dictate to the US to do its bidding – even where this is patently against American interests. Thank you, Phil Giraldi, for putting this in perspective.
Andrew
June 24th, 2010 at 8:00 am
Mike and Cassandra are perfect examples of the effect described in Walt and Meersheimer (sp?). It seems that Hasbara trolls are totally devoid of the concept of irony. Israel is a murderous, racist, apartheid state.
Cassandra
June 24th, 2010 at 8:34 am
I love how anyone who disagrees with the groupthink is immediately labelled a "troll".
Using this term places you in the "accepted" class. It also shows that you feel a need to discredit and dehumanize your opponent in order to relieve yourself of the drudgery of formulating an actual counter-point. (Dehumanizing people was very popular in the 1930's.)
Bereft of any imagination or independent thought – yet full to bursting with well-rehearsed labels and slanders – Andrew and company soldier on.
Adrian
June 24th, 2010 at 2:03 am
Articles that are positive towards Turkery or neutral such as this one, inevitably attract (expat) Greeks or Armenians who are not happy about the previous war results or have been brain-washed, and are ready to jump to tell that it is all not true what is being written. @Mike. How many children of Turkish origin are walking in southern part of Cyprus as a result of rape? How you explain it, it sounds like half of the Greek Cypriot population must be of Turkish origin. Face it: you guys f*ked up and lost. That's how it goes with wars. Look how the old Yugoslavia got new borders, that didn't happen without bloodshed. Same goes for Iraq.
As for Turkey. I yet have to see how the current government deals with the Kurdish issue, and how it resolves their conflict with the Armenians, but so far they have done more than all previous governments in the last 80 years. That Turkey does not sing the same tune as the US or Israel, does not mean they are enemy of these countries, but merely they are independent enough to say no to certain matters. As simple as that.
freedom013102
June 24th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Taking a close look at some of the names listed in this article, one can also imagine they're looking at a list of the 9/11 plotters
pwi
June 24th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Turkey does seem to be flirting with a lot of non-secular attitudes and does seem to be going down paths that won't endear themselves with "the west".
If that's what they choose to do, more power to them but all actions have reactions and there are consequences for choices.
walldizo
June 24th, 2010 at 10:13 am
You can bark as you like against Turkey, but one thing you can't ignore;global sympathy for Turkish demands to punish Israel and current internal pathetic position of Israel. Looks as if you only read one side of the news,try reading Israeli media you may get some sense from there.
walldizo
June 24th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Funny how you contradict youself.When Turkey was doing your dirty job, it was an itimate ally,but turned enemy when started recalcitrating Western diabolical schemes against innocent Nations.Countries like individuals, born blind and then open their eyes to reality and thats when they become humans.
Bianca
June 24th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Now this is going over the deep end. Erdogan deserves "censure" for being an "extremist"? He "bullies and arrests members of his own military, the guardians of Turkish secularism.." For anyone who has not lived under a rock these years since Erdogan came to power it has been amply clear that the CIVILIAN government has finally sprung free from the military dictatorship lurking in the Turkish shadow. The ongoing court proceedings and the stunning evidence show how devious the system of "secular" generals controlled the country with brutallity from the shadows. The "islamism" is hurled against the country for its audacity to pay attention to its national interest, its economy and the population. It is Erdogan that made inroads to deal with the painfull history; from the expulsion of Armenians to the oppression of Kurds. It is this government that is trying to come to terms with Cyprus. But no, let's praise the rotten generals that kept Turkey in the permanent state of hate and warfare with minorities and neighbors, but blame Erdogan and his government who have rejected this.
liberal
June 24th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
"Turkey betrayed the US by not supporting the northern front option for the Iraq mission in 2003 causing more US deaths in Iraq."
Not supporting an illegal, immoral war of aggression does not constitute betrayal.
bogi666
June 24th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Gee Turkey didn't support the northern support option for the invasion of Iraq, a war of choice based on outright lies and has resulted in the murder of 100,000's mostly women and children. Imagine, Turleu passing up such a glorious opportunity. JUST WHERE YOU LOCATED IN THE INVADING FORCE and how many civilians were you able to kill to save them?
liberal
June 24th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
"It also shows that you feel a need to discredit and dehumanize your opponent in order to relieve yourself of the drudgery of formulating an actual counter-point."
LOL! In the US, the attempts at discrediting and dehumanizing all flow from the pro-Israel-at-any-cost side.
liberal
June 24th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
One could rather say, "Israel does seem to be embracing a lot of non-secular attitudes and does seem to be going down paths that won't endear themselves with 'the west'.
"If that's what they choose to do, more power to them but all actions have reactions and there are consequences for choices."
bogi666
June 24th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
The nut cases are out in force,the JDL and all the other Zionist zealots joining the chorus defending the indefensible on behalf of the Israeli governments criminal acts.
Peaceful_Idiot
June 24th, 2010 at 6:10 am
Geez, did some hasbara bot application get this article on its radar or something?
Alan Dershowitz recently backed one of his former students, an R, against Jan Schakowsky, because Schakowsky is not "sufficiently pro Israel". Do you think he read your interview with Sibel Edmonds in AmCon, Mr. Giraldi? It seemed like such an amazing coincidence, Dershowitz backs a Republican over a Jewish Democrat that may have been compromised by Turkish agents shortly after relations with Israel sour. Tag team espionage against the US must only be okay when everyone's pals. I mean, if Schakowsky really is compromised, her losing her seat might not be in Turkey's best interests.
Bruce Richardson
June 24th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
It seems that the U.S. cannot but help shooting itself in the foreign-policy foot. Between Turkey and Israel there is no contest as to who is a true friend of the U.S. Critics need only look to history, Israel's various intrigues, violence and covert actions against the interests of the U.S. are indelibly clear.
Mike
June 24th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
My comment is not in defense of Israel because I feel that they are in the wrong on many policies regarding their conflict with the Arabs. It was hypocritical of Israel ( a nation formed by Genocide survivors) to have an alliance with Turkey (a nation formed by Genocide perpetrators).
The point is that Turkish foreign policy represents hostile actions towards other countries and their internal policies represent some of the most egregious human rights violations in the world. Do all you supporters of Turkey realize the hypocrisy of supporting a nation that threatens neighboring countries (Greece, Cyprus, Armenia, Iraqi Kurdistan) and murders minorities and journalists on a regular basis?
JoaoAlfaiate
June 24th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
It's funny that the issues Mike raises were totally ignored when Turkey was an ally of the Zionist enterprise. Just another proof, as if one were needed, of how loyalty to a foreign power distorts our world view.
Seeker
June 24th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
"There is no sense of the human here; just the tribe."
You mean an emphasis on "Das Volk" over humans?
Adolf Schickelgruber would have understood. How ironic. So many really do become what they claim to hate the most.
Seeker
June 24th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Okay, Mike. If we're going to condemn the genocide of the Armenians by the Turks, we need to call it what it was: A holocaust.
And then we need to call the murder of tens of millions of Ukrainians by Stalin's Khazar cadres what it is: A holocaust.
Although the world needs to see that there was nothing more unique or more morally extra-ordinary about the slaughter of 3,000,000 Jews over any other group which has suffered wide spread genocide, the prospect of Abe Foxman et al. losing the "moral" high ground, which they've falsely claimed for the last 65 years will be enough to make him and the rest of his ilk soil themselves.
Watson
June 24th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
"So many really do become what they claim to hate the most. "
Same principle wherein the abused child becomes an abuser parent.
JoaoAlfaiate
June 24th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
How come we didn't hear from you before Davos and the Flotilla?
E. A. Costa
June 24th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
While one is on the subject, other absolutely primary business for the US Congress is to rename everything "Persian" in American English as well–'Persian melon", "Persian carpet", "Persian cat", and so forth.
And if McChrysal's firing is connected with a Gates plan to overthrow Karzai (which would be an unmitigated disaster), Congress should first rename both the "Afghan Hound", and also the "Afghan" that is the knitted or cabled shawl, don't you think?
After all these pressing renamings are accomplished, all the rest is a cakewalk.
E. A. Costa
June 24th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Do you think Erdogan is about to invade Austria? Will he offer Italy and Poland a piece of the pie, do you think?
E. A. Costa
June 24th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Many will consider this line a fantasy: Russia-Turkey-Greece-Serbia-Italy.
Consider it again next Spring, if there is a next Spring.
Meanwhile isn't it time for the US Congress to rename Turkish Bath, Turkish Coffee, Turkish Delight, and so forth?
In fact, even the English Christmas and American Thanksgiving bird, domesticated by the Aztecs, is named after Turkey from the merchants who introduced it into North Africa and later Europe.
Congress will have to rename it immediately, along with Turkey Shoot and Turkey qua "failure" or "clumsy oaf", etc.
Now that the tiff the Neo-Cons engineered with the French is mostly past and "Freedom Fries" are gone, perhaps some of these can be rebaptized "French", as in French Bath, French Coffee, and French Delight.
For the bird, how about "Hoover Hen", and for the shoot, say, "Fallujah Shoot"?
Turkey as failure or oaf is more difficult, but H. L. Mencken had the perfect substitute, "Boobus Americanus".
Have a nice Boobus Americanus day, folks. No doubt the President will again spare the life of Hoover Hen.
E. A. Costa
June 24th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Really curious what this new comment appointment software posts and retains for "administrator approval".
Pardon any duplicates if at some later time they clear.
E. A. Costa
June 24th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Destroying themselves brilliantly, rather. And good riddance.
Consider the following:
January 2002 oil = $19 per barrel.
August 2008 oil = $147 per barrel.
If the USSR were still extant, Bush would have been made Hero of the Soviet Union long ago.
They would also be decorating the Communist Chinese, who understood Marx and Lenin, and the fatal flaws of Finance Capitalism, better than they did.
Yes the cost in innocent human lives is vast, and that is on the head mainly of the US. But it is getting closer and closer to the fat lady.
None of the incompetent elite are listening to reason or have any connection to objective realities, and that includes Democrats as well as Republicans.
Sit back–enjoy the show.
Prepare for aftertime.
As for nuclear war, go ogle Gertrude Stein on the Atomic Bomb. Her little essay, which is profound in the uniquely Steinian way, was online last one looked.
Norm Cone
June 24th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Erdogan is suddenly Giraldi's new hero, because he provoked a conflict with Israel. Is Erdogan
a new partner of the Axis Iran-Syria-Hezbollah-Hamas ? Yes, no doubt about it. Is he a "new
Hitler" ? I doubt it. But his IHH-thugs from the Flotilla have a lot of common with Hitler's SS.
Giraldi should be thankful for Israel's existence, what would he else be writing about ?
E. A. Costa
June 24th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
And geezus, renaming "Young Turks" is a hard one. Junkers perhaps?
Congress better get busy right away. It's a long list.
E. A. Costa
June 24th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Yep, what the US needs is good five cent Anglo-Saxon Katharevousa! Get back to white Protestant racist basics like WAR, FIGHT, EAT, FOOD, SLEEP, WORK, GOD, HILL, BILL and so forth.
peacenik
June 24th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Erdogan should be on board the next flotilla and it should be guarded by Turkish warships. Then we will see if the cowardly zionist have the balls to attack them.
Mike,Cassandra are both Hasbara agents spouting lies to cover zionist atrocities. What Turkey or the Ottomans did almost 100 years ago is of no relevance now. Those are totally different times and issues. Erdogan is the best thing that ever happened to Turkey. Erdogan is admired even in Greece by the vast majority.
peacenik
June 24th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Mike, Cassandra, pwi and norm cone remember the USS Liberty , Pollard and the Lavin affair
Shane
June 24th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
And the United States was founded on the blood of the native tribes that already lived there. Also, annexed what is now the south west America from the Mexicans. Every country has been founded on war and genocide. Israel itself, is a prime example as they cleanse the west bank and Gaza strip of the Palestinians.
To be honest, I don't care what Israel does. If they want to go to war with Islam and fight Hamas, Hezballa, and Al Qaeda, fine. But, they should be the only ones feeling the blow-back, not the US.
David Germain
June 24th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
The Israeli Lobby is in action again,and anyone who opposes the artificially created Israel, they right away try to demonize that person or country.The American interest and Israel's interest are not intertwined.Infact Israel has been nothing but a disaster to the United States, and the Americans are fed up with the Israel.Furthermore,our politicl prostitutes (congress) are clamering to stand by the Israel,bcause they are on the payroll of the AIPAC.
Tom Denver
June 24th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
If It comes to choose between Israel,and Turkey,it is in the America's national interest to choose the Turkey.
Ira Gold
June 24th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
This site supports flow of free infromation provided all are pro Israel!
James Erickson
June 24th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
This comment will be deleted by the adminstrator.
Joseph Moshe
June 24th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Do not blame the Israel
Cassandra
June 25th, 2010 at 12:48 am
Here's the playbook of the mindless, mantra-chanting, Israel-bashing robots:
1. Instantly label anyone who defends Israel or criticizes Israel's enemies (no matter how legitimately) a "troll" and a "hasbara agent" who's "on the payroll".
2. Remind this "troll" about the "USS Liberty".
3. Wait for the next "troll" to appear and repeat Step 1.
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 12:52 am
Yes, very observant to note the Greek aspect.
Things change.
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 12:56 am
You really should see Polanski' sThe Pianist. If you have already., see it again and again until you understand it.
Schindler's list is good, but no more than first class, and very dodgy. The Pianist is a masterpiece–one of several by Polanski.
Israeli in Exile
June 25th, 2010 at 12:59 am
As it was hypocritical of "genocide survivors" to commit genocide in Palestine to establish Israel. Isn't it ironic how you missed that entire hypocritical angle?
Remember Deir Yasin, Tantura, Lydd, Al-Ramlah…..the list is long.
And the irony of ironies is that Gaza, which is currently under Israeli collective punishment was formed by Palestinian refugees driven out of their homes in Jaffa at the barrel of a gun by Zionist militias. That is why close to 67% of Gaza's population are refugees from historical Palestine. But, that's not the end of the story. Inside Gaza, there are currently refugee refugees who became refugees when Israel destroyed 20,000 homes in last year's massacre.
You have the gal to talk about hypocrisy, you putz.
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 1:00 am
KILL–don't forget KILL.
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 1:01 am
You are not much of a cook, are you?
Israeli in Exile
June 25th, 2010 at 1:02 am
Iran-Syria-Hezbollah-Hamas
- * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – *
What utter nonsense. Wooops, you forgot to include the Stern Gang, Lechi, Hagana and Jabotinsky's boys.
Israeli in Exile
June 25th, 2010 at 1:07 am
shhhh……those are incidents they prefer to forget……just like the thousands of American-born Zionist immigrants to Israel who join the IDF:
“I have more job security than any of my friends,” he said with a laugh. "Why join the IDF instead of the American army?" I asked. Andrew gave me a baffled look. “I don’t want to be in, like, Grenada,” he scoffed, adding, “If I’m going to die for my country, I want it to be in someplace where I have a connection.”
Read'em and weep:
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/israeli-expo-in-nyc…
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 1:18 am
Here's a great recipe for Squirrel Cacciatore with Polenta.
3 Squirrels (best younger ones)
Four tomatoes
Head of garlic
1 onion
2 green peppers
olive oil
flour
cornmeal
cilantro
Red Bourdeaux
Clean the squirrel. Wash and dry. Salt lighty for a few hours. Wash off the salt and cover with flour.
Slice tomatoes, onions, and pepper.
Slice garlic gloves thinly.
Chop cilantro.
Cover bottom of deep cast iron pan with olive oil
Add garlic.
When the garlic begins to brown add squirrel and brown lightly.
Add cilantro and stir. Add onion, tomatoes, and pepper.
Add red wine-maybe half a cup or to taste.
Salt and pepper to taste.
Simmer on low heat for about an hour.
About half way through add table spoon of Chinese bead molasses.
Meanwhile make the cornmeal and time it for when the squirrel is done.
Put the polenta on a plate and cover with squirrel and sauce.
In the old days the peasants used to put the polenta right on the wooden table and make a little crater out of it, then fill it with the squirrel.
Warning: make sure you remove the squirrels' scent glands or it will be very strong.
Works with any rodent actually.
If cilantro is embargoed by a local blockade or siege, use parsley.
Bon appetit!
fidelio702
June 25th, 2010 at 1:56 am
I fully agree with you !!! those two characters are clear example of their TRIBAL ETHOS .
Always distorting the real facts and insulting the intelligence of whoever dares to contradict their HOLY VIEWS !!
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 1:59 am
Oh–after you add the wine you have to cover with water obviously.
Cassandra
June 25th, 2010 at 2:15 am
You are not much of a wit, are you?
RogueBuddha
June 25th, 2010 at 2:24 am
Ah why go through all that trouble when its available here..
http://exiledonline.com/escape-from-america-the-s…
Lou
June 25th, 2010 at 2:53 am
One person's "troll' is another person's freedom fighter.
Shouldn't you be reading prowar.com?
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 2:56 am
Some sampan. Built by South Koreans? No wonder they are skittish about stealth North Korean torpedo vests.
So do they board two by two?
Actually there may be a real advantage in encouraging them to collect themselves all in one place like that.
Sort of Ron Hubbardish, eh?
Lou
June 25th, 2010 at 2:57 am
None of the groups you mention are enemies of the USA – just Israel.
Further example of how Israel has taken over our government – and look at the results.
MvGuy
June 25th, 2010 at 3:12 am
Together, America and her No. 1 Welfare Queen….. "are jointly set on a project of global domination, together with more or less junior partners in NATO. " I want to know who is NATO's No. 1 Welfare Queen???………eppie can ya help me out on this one…??? Thanks in advance
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 3:13 am
Colossal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vz8z9SXuA
peacenik
June 25th, 2010 at 3:18 am
Erdogan is a very honorable man. I hope he and Turkish warships would accompany the next flotilla. Then we will see how cowardly the zionist are. They would come running to Obama for help.
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 3:26 am
Half a wit is better than none.
How's the Homer coming along?
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 3:29 am
On the other hand, after Kafka, half a cook is not better than none.
E. A. Costa
June 25th, 2010 at 3:41 am
Incidentally, the first currently known use of "troll" in the internet sense was December 14, 1992.
Later it became very popular and overused at Free Republic.
That is ironic because in regard to Free Republic the whole site and its concept was a troll.
Nelson_2008
June 25th, 2010 at 3:44 am
Being a country that lost Nationals in the 9/11 false-flag attacks, and being a NATO member with troops in Afghanistan, Turkey needs to demand a real investigation into what actually happened on 9/11. Turkey needs to bring this up at the UN or at a NATO meeting or something.
MvGuy
June 25th, 2010 at 3:58 am
OUCH…!!!!!!
Cassandra
June 25th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Thanks for confirming my suspicion. I bet that line really impressed the schoolgirls at recess.
It's always amateur night at the Costa Comedy Club, it seems.
fidelio702
June 25th, 2010 at 2:18 am
I fully agree with you !!! those two characters are clear example of their TRIBAL ETHOS .
Always distorting the real facts and insulting the intelligence of whoever dares to contradict their HOLY VIEWS !!
5656565
June 25th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Israel's enemies are more racist than Israel.
No one has a right to disagree with you hey dickhead??
Andy has a problem with anyone saying anything bad against Israel's enemies
CASE CLOSED!!
453434
June 25th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
How come racism by Israel's enemies doesn't bother you??
Don't complain about selective criticism when you do it yourself
PPGGSS
June 25th, 2010 at 7:03 am
How about the Hebron masscare.??
In 1948 Israel's enemies launched a war of war of annihilation where all the jews of the area even the arab jews would have been killed or expelled .That's a war crime or an attempted war crime.
Israel's enemies sided with the nazis during WWII even helped Hitler with the holocaust . That's a war crime.
Israel's enemies persecute their minorities and persecuted arab and mideast jews in response to Israel .That's war crime.
Here is a good reason for Israel for now . It is that
Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaedists and anyone of a similar
ideological persuasion can't be trusted to govern or protect their minorities.
Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaedists and those a similar
ideological persuasion are all facist bigots.
56565
June 25th, 2010 at 7:04 am
In 1948 Israel's enemies launched a war of war of annihilation where all the jews of the area even the arab jews would have been killed or expelled .That's a war crime or an attempted war crime.
Israel's enemies sided with the nazis during WWII even helped Hitler with the holocaust . That's a war crime.
Israel's enemies persecute their minorities and persecuted arab and mideast jews in response to Israel .That's war crime.
Here is a good reason for Israel for now . It is that
Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaedists and anyone of a similar
ideological persuasion can't be trusted to govern or protect their minorities.
Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaedists and those a similar
ideological persuasion are all facist bigots.
eve
June 25th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
The illusion continues…
Nothing will change until the "Pro-Israeli-Firsters" are removed from their positions of power.
"They" are pulling the puppet strings and not your fellow Americans. This is the illusion that continues to be overlooked.
Cut the strings and the US puppet is no longer "their" puppet.
Think.
Will
June 26th, 2010 at 3:22 am
The US Liberty.. Terrible.
9/11.. Israel.. That's the big story. It's so big I don't like to think about it.
E. A. Costa
June 26th, 2010 at 3:42 am
You really might exert yourself to get at least halfway to some wit yourself.
Sorrily considerable sensibility and intelligence is required for that.
One makes no judgment on whether it is innate or acquired.
Comedy is much harder than tragedy.
But one suspects there is much too much study and experience in understanding that proposition, beginning very anciently, not only with the Greeks, but before, for such as yourself to get a glimmer.
It is also obvious that you are not only without wit, but also without humor.
The distinction is very subtle, and both are also distinct from the comic, both high and low.
That is your problem and you are welcome to it.
It is really a pity what Neo-Hegelian Zionism has done to many of the world's all too susceptible Christians and Jews, especially the American varieties, who are not schooled enough even to see the Hegel in it.
Foucault observes somewhere that, no matter how terrible what one is fighting may be, one need not be sad.
But Foucault is likely also presently beyond you as well.
E. A. Costa
June 26th, 2010 at 11:30 am
The implied connotations of your use of "amateur" and "professional" might also bear examination.
Has an interesting tinge of Vaudeville–and also Schindler's list.
One might again look at Polanski's The Pianist, which either you have not seen or which you obviously still do not grasp.
You don't think at bottom he was a "Pro" do you, though he was self-effacing enough to stop for the clink of a gold coin.
But that was after all in nightclub, wasn't it, and among Philistines?
E. A. Costa
June 26th, 2010 at 11:48 am
In fact the gold coin incident in Polanski's "The Pianist" is quite subtle and is interpretable, as all great art, open-endedly.
One aspect that very likely has never occurred to you: the pianist stopped playing only out of respect for someone else with a fine ear, even if specialized only to listen to gold.
Hear that ring, do you?
E. A. Costa
June 26th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why most Protestants, especially the US variety, are so devoid of art and culture?
The question did occur to George Santayana and he came up with an interesting answer.
There are many varieties of puppet and many different kinds of strings.
E. A. Costa
June 26th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
"Money is a kind of poetry", noticed Wallace Stevens.
Note how much the interpretation varies according to rhythm and tone.
One of the interesting absences in Stevens, on the other hand, was not the poetic, but a sense of how recent and late the idea and practice of money is in the ephemeron that is recorded human history.
EAC
E. A. Costa
June 26th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
"Call the roller of big cigars,
The muscular one, and bid him whip
In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream…."
Wallace Stevens
NB: "so devoid of" is not equivalent to "devoid of".
E. A. Costa
June 26th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Punishing Turkey*
On Thankgiving (sic)
which is dative in descent
this punishing turkey
this Aztec goose
long with the mythology of hungry blunderbuss
that used to streak through New England woods
now no use even as Capitoline alarum.
EAC
[* title with acknowledgment to Signor Giraldi]
Philip Giraldi
June 27th, 2010 at 3:46 am
How about arab massacres of Israels.
Your business is selective one sided crticism.
Johnny in Wi.
June 28th, 2010 at 3:10 am
I think the Israeli's are going for broke. They always knew that they would eventually have to confront Turkey as the regional power in the area. They know Turkey would never go along with an attack on Iran. so they are pushing the envelope to the limit.
Zia
June 28th, 2010 at 11:59 am
OK, so here is a situation that could call for a US airlift to besieged everyday folks. There is no excuse for the seige: it is criminal and has been rightly condemned as such by all decent human beings. One must wonder how this serves US interest to condone – even back – this creation of an Auschwitz with Palestinians after dispossessing them of their ancestral homes?
propeace
June 28th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Israel's prime minister is the only fit as Hitler not the Turkish P.M who tried to help hungry & sick children strangled by Israelis! why are we so afraid of the Zionist here; is it because they own the media, banks, insurance co's, & hence the wealth of our country? is it because they own the politicians one way or another; is it because we are corrupted by our greed?
Norm Cone
June 28th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
What else should we remember ? That the US Aie Force got the first look at a Russian
MIG in Israelk, after the Israeli Mossad organized the escape of an Iraqi pilot with his air
plane to Israel? Peacenik, have you an idea what Israel has done for the US? BTW -
it was the Lavon affair, not the Lavin affair. At least you have to know what you are writing
about…
Sam
June 30th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Turkey does not belong in the European Union for one simple reason. They are not European. They are not a thriving country likes Giraldi says. Giraldi has an anti-Jewish chip on his shoulder. Turkey just happens to be located in a convienent location. What have they ever given to the world? What inventions have they created? Turkey wants another Ottoman Empire. Turkey is a country that commits murder of Kurds. Turkey simply wants to be a player on the world stage. I don't need them
A.H.Alp
June 30th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Turkish Republic tried to develop its relations with the USA even in the early 1920’s in its first years. Following the WWII it became one of the staunched supporters of the Anti-Soviet policies of the West. It is a member of NATO and almost all European organisations except EU.However, the USA did not hesitate to conclude bargains with the Soviet Union USA over the head of Turkey without consulting it, as the case was during the Cuban missile crisis.Turkey supported the first US ınvasion of Iraq and served (and continus toserve)as a vital logistics base during the second invasion. Sent peacekeepers to Somalia and several other places, including Afganistan on American request. It permitted the use of its territory to prevent the forces of Saddam to punish the Iraqi Kurds despite the fact that US policies resulted in the protection of PKK separatism and terrorism.
If the US Middle East policies became an almost complete failure, that certainly was not Turkey’s fault. In fact, even for an honorable exit the USA needs Turkish support.
A.H.Alp
June 30th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Turkey also is the first Muslim country who recognized Israel and had extensive economic and military cooperation. Olmert comes to Turkey to further consolidate this friendship, leaves without saying a word about the planned operation in Gaza. S.Peres talks for almost one hour to prove how their policies are humane in Gaza but Erdogan’s intervention is immediately cut by the moderator. The Deputy Foreign Affairs minister of Israel insults the Turkish Ambassador
And now Turkey is severely criticized because it permitted an humanitarian assistance ship to sail from its ports to try to broke the inhuman Gaza embargo, condemned by all nations except Israel.
If Israel and the USA intend to throw away this long-established friendship so lightly, that would be a mistake bordering stupidity.A new Obama would be necessary to repair it. Anti-Turkish resolutions of the American Congress may satisfy some people over there for some time, but also would bury the two long-established friendships in the history. This would galvanize the entire Turkish public opinion. Do it if you want new problems in the Middle East!
alpoi
June 30th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
I think Congress would rather be busy to help solve the economic crisis, relations bwith China and Russsian Federation, North Korea, Iran and Afganistan than to create new problems.
brian
July 1st, 2010 at 1:09 am
Whoever wrote this article is biased in favor of Turkey, completely ignores Turkey's own reprehensible civil rights and internal measures, and should be suspected of being sympathetic to the known terrorist links of the Turkish Gaza Aid flotilla. This article is modern biased propaganda and its not even that cleverly concealed.