One of the pitfalls anyone aspiring to become a historian is usually cautioned to avoid is "presentism" — the tendency to interpret events of the past through the lens of the present. It is bad enough when such misinterpretation causes the deliberate distortions of recent history, trampling over inconvenient facts in order to support a politically desirable narrative. Far worse is when such fabricated history is then projected back onto the entire century.
In his address to the American public March 24, 1999 — as NATO began its assault on Serbia — Bill Clinton invoked the specters of both world wars and the Holocaust to justify his aggression. "Just imagine if leaders back then had acted wisely and early enough, how many lives could have been saved, how many Americans would not have had to die," Clinton said.
Well, then, there you have it. Since those evil Serbs started the First World War, they ought to be bombed almost a hundred years later so as to not cause another. It is an understanding of history on par with that of Pvt. Baldrick of Blackadder, who thought the whole mess started "when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich ’cause he was hungry."
Blaming the Slavs
A young Bosnian Serb, Gavrilo Princip, did assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, on June 28, 1914. Ferdinand was visiting Sarajevo, the provincial capital of Bosnia-Herzegovina, while supervising a military exercise in the vicinity. Bosnia’s majority Serb population resented the Austro-Hungarian occupation; Princip belonged to a small anarchist group that considered regicide an acceptable tactic for national liberation.
Austria-Hungary obviously considered him a terrorist — and some modern commentators have agreed with that view, going so far as to compare him to the perpetrators of 9/11. From there, it is just a small step to pinning the blame for the war squarely on the Serbian people — as Austria did at the time. In a recent essay, syndicated columnist Eric Margolis does just that:
In 1914, Serbia sought to provoke a war between Russia and its enemy, the Austro-Hungarian Empire over Bosnia-Herzegovina, by assassinating Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Habsburg throne, at Sarajevo. As expected, Austria mobilized its armies to seek revenge on Serbia.
But Margolis also lays the blame for the war at the feet of Russian emperor Nicholas II:
Serbia was a close Russian ally, as it remains today, and the primary tool of Russian expansion into post-Ottoman Eastern Europe. In a fatal act that would end Europe’s golden age, Nicholas ordered his huge armies to mobilize against Austria in support of Serbia. Russia’s mobilization forced Austria-Hungary’s ally, Germany, to mobilize its force. France mobilized in response to German mobilization. Facing Russia and France in a two-front, Germany was forced to attack France before Russia’s vast armies could take the field.
The Czar’s decision to mobilize lit the fuse of World War I, which then led to WWII.
A War of Choice
This interpretation gets all the facts precisely backwards. Serbia was never a "tool of Russian expansion," primary or otherwise. It did not want a war; Austria did. Vienna had been shocked by the quick victory of the Balkans alliance (Serbia, Montenegro, Greece and Bulgaria) against the Ottomans in late 1912, and incited the Bulgarians to turn on their allies in 1913. Serbia emerged victorious from that conflict, but was not ready for another. And it was not Russia that provoked Germany, but the other way around.
In an excellent book about the Great War’s origins, historian David Fromkin easily demonstrates that Margolis’s version of history is bogus. Europe’s Last Summer cites documents and testimonials of the people involved, clearly indicating that it was Berlin and Vienna that desired war in the summer of 1914, and that the murder of Franz Ferdinand offered them the perfect pretext. However, while Austria wanted a local war against Serbia while Germany guarded its back from the Russians, the Germans could not care less about Serbia, and wanted Austria to deal with the Russians while Germany put its own war plans into effect (focusing on France).
Per Fromkin, "Sometime during or after the Balkans wars," Austro-Hungarian foreign minister, Count Berchtold, "decided that his country could survive only if Serbia were crushed and altogether eliminated as a factor in politics." Berchtold refused any opportunity to avoid war, even on favorable terms. This confused everyone in Europe, as they were acting on the assumption that Vienna wanted peace. But Berchtold "did not desire his terms or any terms; he preferred to fight a war." He did not want "a subservient Serbia; he wanted there to be no Serbia at all." (p.288, emphasis added)
The prevailing view of historians — Barbara Tuchman, for instance, whose classic The Guns of August has shaped the thinking of generations — has been that the great European powers stumbled into the war. Yet Fromkin argues, persuasively, that:
"It was no accident that Europe went to war at that time. It was the result of premeditated decisions by two governments. Once those two countries had invaded their neighbors, there was no way for the neighbors to keep the peace." (p.293)
For both Austria and Germany, this was a war of choice.
Germany supported Austria-Hungary with an understanding that it would launch a short, victorious war by mid-July, while the rest of Europe snoozed the summer away. When Vienna failed to do so, the German military establishment (specifically, von Moltke and Falkenhayn) took initiative and hijacked the crisis created by the Austrians to put their own war plans in motion.
Now, theoretically, Russia could have stayed out of it. It already had, once before. When Austria annexed Bosnia-Herzegovina in 1908, contrary to the 1878 agreement at the Congress of Berlin, Russia was too weak from the war with Japan to do anything about it. But the humiliation lingered, and the likelihood of Russia backing down again was low. Nicholas II could no more have left Serbia to die as the British could allow a hostile power to dominate the European continent, Niall Ferguson’s alternative hypothesis notwithstanding.
War Without End?
There is no doubt that the tragic conflagration that began in August 1914 changed the world profoundly. Britain and France lost millions of lives on the battlefield and lapsed into nihilism and decay. Austria-Hungary imploded at the end of the war. Serbia had lost half its male population, and afterwards invested itself into a historical mistake called Yugoslavia. Even the Americans lost, in a manner of speaking, as Woodrow Wilson’s intervention in 1917 created a precedent for FDR a generation later.
In Germany, residual resentment from the defeat coupled with a brutal economic depression opened the door to revolutionary takeover. Hitler rose to power by exploiting the fears of Communism. This is somewhat ironic, given that it was the Germans who unleashed Communism on Russia by sending Lenin and a score of other revolutionaries in a sealed train to St. Petersburg in 1917, hoping that their agitation would knock Russia out of the war. Perhaps it is fitting, then, that it was Soviet tanks and bayonets that wrought the end of Hitler’s "thousand-year Reich" in 1945.
As Fromkin noted,
"The decision for war in 1914 was purposeful; and the war itself was not, as the generations of historians thought, meaningless. On the contrary, it was fought to decide the essential questions in international politics: who would achieve mastery in Europe, and therefore in the world, and under the banners of what faith." (p.296)
It is this desire to "achieve mastery" in the world that animates the American Empire today. But however one tries to spin it, there is no way that this can be blamed on either Russia or Serbia. Or even Austria and Germany, for that matter. That war actually ended, 92 years ago.
Read more by Nebojsa Malic
- Victory Day – May 10th, 2013
- Consenting to Rape – April 25th, 2013
- An Unexpected Refusal – April 12th, 2013
- Lawless: An Oddly Exceptional Empire – March 28th, 2013
- Illusion of Triumph – March 21st, 2013





agent toads
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:13 am
the domanoe effect and the monstrous conspiracy all rolled into one big chickenshO!Ot flashpoint,amazing how many ghouls are all standing around waiting for the other shoe to drop,(back then)yeah right,a regular carrear as a gargoyle,and now,all yua gotta do is control the most dangerous estate of em all the 5th,suppossidly,1984 control the message saturation and ya "control" the past"thair still trying to get to the caspian sea oil fields,gust go to mexico,gulf of wtf,machines must have oil for my war machine,proven ironic much or just plain dead RONG,we were spellbound,spellbound we were etc,etc,
musings
July 2nd, 2010 at 2:19 pm
I happen to have been in Belgrade, visiting with an academic colleague of my husband's, whose wife was a member of the central committee (cultural office of some sort), before the war broke out. I remember taking my husband and children into the courtyard of a mosque to wash ourselves after a hot, dusty walk, and having little children (boys and girls) pour out of a religious class, and give us happy faces, innocent normal happy faces, as they encountered us there. Probably, they thought we were Moslems too (my husband's beard always provokes positive reactions). This image was very much in my mind when the wife told me later that evening that Moslems in Yugoslavia were going over to the extreme side, that this is what they were all about at core. I felt I had experienced otherwise, from our chance encounter. But she was a proud Serb. Her grandfather was recently honored, she told us, for being the last surviving member of the group which assassinated the Archduke. This enhanced, undoubtedly, her status as well, as he was seen as an early patriot.
Later, as we drove to Hungary to see relatives, I felt a sick feeling about Yugoslavia. I felt hostility and suspicion in the air (the opposite of how I felt in the mosque), and then the whole thing just blew up. Indeed, to quote William Faulkner: "The past is not dead, in fact it's not even past." Especially in the former Yugoslavia.
And Bill Clinton's tenuous grasp of it? Meaningless, because what the big pols are after is power realignments. And I guess they get them, no matter what anyone wants, if they are big enough. No wonder George Bush ignored his history lessons at Yale. He didn't need them to make trouble in the world, and that is what he wanted to do – Mission accomplished (if you want a chokehold on oil).
Hacklheber
July 2nd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Why does Eric Margolis write such things? That's pretty bizarre, he should know better.
Wolfgang
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Even though I don't agree with the bombing of Serbia, and I hate that moral trashcan M. Albright, I would doubt that it has anything to do with connecting it to Serbia starting of WW I.
IMO these are entirely different things, the decisions were made on very different expectations.
So, I think it was some ironic History lesson Yugoslavia got, after it destroyed the Austrian empire,
it basically had to experience the same thing just fifty years later when the US thought it was no longer needed!
Wolfgang
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
… and where was Russia then?? Russia was supposed to help Serbia!
W
hoct
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Gavrilo Princip, a poor student interested in literature, was a Bosnian, so were the other six of his friends that took part in the assassination, so was Milan Ciganovich who had supplied them with a handful of bombs and revolvers, so was Bogdan Zherajich who in 1910 attempted the assassination of imperial viceroy in Sarajevo and who served as inspiration for the attempt in 1914.
Franz Ferdinand on the other hand was a foreigner, who came to Sarajevo as a conqueror. On St. Vitus day, fresh from massive military manoeuvres on the border with Serbia. An inspector general of the Austro-Hungarian army and a well known militarist. Representative of an empire of whose Bosnia and Herzegovina were colonies.
What can a decent person say to that but: Sic semper tyrannis!
hoct
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Why are you surprised about anything Margolis writes about Russians and especially Serbians?
Wolfgang
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
yes, and the same thing happen'd again, the suppessed Croatia etc. went after the Serbians who ruled that country like a conqueror. So, that maybe makes the bombing right?
Thanks, now we can sleep well,
W.
Hacklheber
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
The active voice in "it destroyed" is quite wrong. The Austria empire destroyed itself.
Hell, it even got bailed out by the German Army a few times when the Russians pressed in too much. Arrogance AND Ineptitude.
MichaelKenny
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
"One of the pitfalls anyone aspiring to become a historian is usually cautioned to avoid is "presentism" — the tendency to interpret events of the past through the lens of the present".
What a pity the author didn't practice what he preached! The final paragraph is a textbook example of "presentism". And the passages he cites from Mr Fromkin's book suggest that the book may itself be "presentism" or else the American fetish for conspiracy theories: whatever actually happened was meant to happen. Nobody in Europe is "refighting the Great War". How odd of an author who claims to be Bosnian to do something so quintessentially American!
B..
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:35 am
Wolfgang, Tudjman's revisionist, Ustasha-praising, Holocaust-denying regime was mostly "after" the remaining Serbs in croatia who (after the Croat Nazi genocide against Serbs, Jews and Roma people in the 1940s) have remained some 15 % of Croatia's population, and a constitutional element in its after-WW2 formation within Yugoslavia. In fact, if there wasn't for the Serbs of Croatia (who made up an overwhelming percentage of victorious Tito's partizans in WW2 yugoslavia), Croatia would most probably have faced the same destiny as any other defeated mass-murdering satrapy that allied with Nazis (check out a horrendous record of Ustaasha genocide against Croatia's Serbs, Jews and Roma in WW2, Jasenovac being the most infamous camp among many). Tudjman revived the Ustasha language, its political goals, kicked the Serbs out of the Croatia' Constitution, and went on with the independence, clearly implying what Serbs in croatia could hope in a country whose ideology is inspired by the very same evil that committed the genocide against their parents' generation.
@musings
Thanks for your interesting recollection. As for the Belgrade Muslims, your friend might have been zealously nationalist at the time as, more-less, THE WHOLE of Yugoslavia before it collapsed so dismally, but I doubt that she had had the particular Belgrade Muslim population in mind. Thanks to the moderate and thoughtful approach by both Muslim and Serbian Orthodox political and religious authorities in Belgrade, peace and friendship remained on enviably high level between Muslim minority and Serb majority there, during all those traumatic years of a painful conflict in Bosnia. The tensions were considerably higher in the region of Raska (or Sanjak) than in Belgrade, but even down there Serbs and Muslims have remained in peace. While anything labeled as resembling to "Serbian" or "Milosevic" is still being routinely demonized on the west, Serbia remained pretty much THE ONLY ethnically mixed piece of the former Yugoslavia (not including Kosovo, esp. after its Clinton-led "liberation" in 1999, where practically all Serbs were kicked out of the province, and many hideous crimes took place against those who remained, including the latest terrorist attack which happened YESTERDAY in a Serb northern enclave, and a Serbian doctor was killed while dozen Serb civilians were injured).
Wolfgang
July 2nd, 2010 at 6:25 pm
You are right, the great times for Austria were gone, that coffee house society
with their dandy military offivers,
Thanks for correcting me,
W
Joe
July 2nd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
That's right–George Bush and his cronies didn't need to know history because they were too busy making history, or being "history's actors," or whatever that line was.
hoct
July 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Actually the Croat youths were gunning for Austrian-Hungarian officials as much as the Serb youths were. There were a number of assassination attempts in Zagreb at the time, the most serious by one Luka Jukich, who in 1912 upset over the crackdown on the Croat-Serb coalition attempted to assassinate the Ban of Croatia, killing his advisor instead and in the pursuit that followed shot dead one policeman and wounded two others. A Croat Ivan Kranjchevich hid the weapons for Princip and the majority of people involved in the assassination of Franz Ferdinand stated the unfavorable treatment and status of Croatians in the empire as one reason for the assassination.
musings
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
I assumed my hostess was Serbian – maybe her grandfather was a Bosnian. At any rate she told me that he was the last surviving member of the ring. (if you read my comment above) He was apparently considered a big deal in Belgrade.
Andy
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:23 pm
I disagree with many things here. If Germany wanted a war why not in 1905-06? Russia had just been defeated by Japan, its navy was sunk and the country was in the midst of chaos, anarchy, revolution and counter-revolution. As for Falkenhayn the historical record clearly shows he wanted to wait and use diplomatic channels to resolve the crisis. In any case the great war was a disaster for Europe. I feel it never recovered from it.
hoct
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
You are talking about Vaso Chubrilovich, he was a Bosnian Serb from Bosanska Gradishka. Being Bosnian and Serbian is not mutually exclusive. Bosnia is a region named after a large river – Bosna, thus Bosnian is a regional not a national identity. Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Muslims are all equally Bosnians.
Advisor
July 2nd, 2010 at 11:10 pm
The huge damage to the hystorical truth done by prsentism in the period of Yu disintegration and is still lingering, unfortunately. The job of herculian proportions is being pionired by you Mr. Malic. It is a painstaking job started by you and done with the surgical precision. To reconstruct the body of truth eliminating cancerous textures whose causes represent some heavywaights like Clinton, Albright, Blaire and co. along with presentism students will take a long time. Thank you sir for such an undertaking. This way our children will not be robed of the proper perspective and right presentation of the events that past. Everything in nature and life only exists if it has balance, or it struggles to achieve its balance. Your work is the force helping that to happen, to put things on its feet. I also appreciate the people who chalange your approach.
Advisor
July 2nd, 2010 at 11:10 pm
To me, it means that they are willing to learn about the truth, to achive their inner balance, but their road is a long one also. Belive me there are more people who read your work than you imagine, and even more who appreciate the job well done. I believe, everyone is entitled to have a chance to bring up the other side:yours is only 20 years late, though, not because of you. Who the guilty ones are is an entirely diferent topic.
Keep up a good work. I anciously always wait to see your analisys, but the responses ot others. Some do look like cheap shots, but still i like reading them.
Advisor
M.S.S
July 3rd, 2010 at 12:56 am
apologies if english is not your native language but if it is please do not drink and post.
M.S.S.
July 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 am
Margolis is a known Serbo-phobe and quite frankly a hack as a journalist. He is an Albanian/Muslim apologist. According to him, his Albanian and Muslim brethren are incapable of committing atrocities or even being wrong. His career is a result of P.R. professionals pushing any anti-Serb opinion to the main stream during the Bosnian and Kosovo wars.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 2:19 am
Eyes wide shut—Kubrick's brilliance is seeing how nicely it fit contemporary NYC.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 2:31 am
It is no irreverence to find a life-affirming laugh in the worst of tragedies, thus exiting on the Euripedean and Bakhtinesque.
Polanski has one such laugh near the end of "The Pianist", after a tale of unremitting despair.
So Tolstoy in Anna Karenina, which is a bit of a melodrama and a serial, partly because of the way novels appeared in that day.
At any rate the great romantic Vronsky, supposed skilled soldier, tries to kill himself by shooting himself in the heart, and misses.
The novel ends with him going off to fight with the Serbs.
There may be two laughs in that a Kusturica sees immediately.
Polanski's laugh also involves Russians.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 2:58 am
The first great enlightenment for any historian who writes about other than his or her own times is discovering what is not there, and what you just assumed or expected had to be.
This leads to uncovering as unnecessary what you may have thought as humanly necessary.
It can also lead to using the past to predict the past–to wit, trying to predict the analogue that you think must be there and finding it in surviving sources.
This is often some new discovery or perspective.
Most historians, even professional and trained, never get to this point.
The next enlightenment is, having got to the point of seeing the past from the point of view of the past, and not seeing what was in light of what followed afterward, which you know, but those at the time did not–the next enlightenment is discovering what was considered obvious and humanly necessary in the past, but does not exist in your own time in any easily observable way.
After that comes the real subtilty of historiography–seeing how men in the past did their "history", including their ancient history, and comparing it to what you do in regard to them.
Needless to say there are only a handful who ever reach this last point, which makes sense of such phrases as, "The Ancient History of Ancient History", for example.
musings
July 3rd, 2010 at 3:19 am
Thanks. I'm an American (too many ethnicities to be hyphenated) – and since I understand little of the region, I think we should have stayed out of it. However, I just did some genealogy and discovered that my niece, brought up to believe her paternal ancestors were Polish, is actually a Slovenian. I think. At least that is the place her ancestors emigrated from to the US. I wonder if I should actually do a bit more research before asserting so positively she is Slovenian. Maybe she's Croatian or something!
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 3:50 am
It is vibrantly expressed and makes perfect sense–almost poetry, as a little graphic rearrangement establishes:
The domino effect
and a monstrous conspiracy
all rolled into one big chickenshoot
flashpoint
How many ghouls
waiting for the other shoe?
hoct
July 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 am
Unlikely. :) The area that is now Slovenia was always quite homogeneous in the ethnic sense. The only significant minority historically speaking were the Germans, but it would be very hard to mistake a German family name for a Polish one. ;)
MichaelKenny
July 3rd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
If I may be forgiven for coming back to this a second time … The Israel Lobby has a big problem with WWI. Their entire discourse is based on the Holocaust. If they cannot pin the blame for WWI on Germany, then the simplistic Holocaust discourse falls apart. That, I think, explains this article and, indeed, Mr Fromkin’s book. The fly in that ointment is that Germany was not a democracy in 1914. Thus, even if everything Mr Fromkin argues is true (which I doubt!), it proves nothing! Ordinary Germans cannot be blamed for that acts of a government over which they had no control. This article is thus (yet another!) desperate act of panic on the Lobby’s part!
Nebojsa Malic
July 3rd, 2010 at 3:54 pm
There is no doubt that the Great War was a disaster (matter of fact, I spell that out in the text, do I not?), and that much of what plagues Europe still has roots in it. Though these columns don't have a hard limit on length, getting into the explanation of precisely how the Germans and the Austrians maneuvered in July 1914 would have taken up entirely too much space.
There is no doubt whatsoever that Austria wanted Serbia destroyed. Not conquered, but obliterated. Not sure if the Kaiser knew this, but he certainly supported a quick punitive expedition of some sort. The key word here is "quick" – days or weeks, not a full month after the events in Sarajevo. Whether deliberately or out of sheer incompetence, Austria was too slow. The rest, as they say, is history.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 9:24 am
Yes, there are many "Holocaust" problems with World War I.
In fact, descendants of the many highly assimilated German Jews who courted the Prussian nobility, for example, and were new arrivals in it, and who were distinguished and loyal citizens of Germany and subjects of the Kaiser, may not like to be reminded that their forebears had no ethical problems whatever with Germany's ally Turkey, nor with the massacre of the Armenians.
But this is very complex. It is also worth repeating again that there was very little anti-Semitism in "Germany", and that Hitler himself was an Austrian German.
Vida
July 3rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Sure, blame it on Jews.
Colonialism never ended, at least not on Balkans.
Today, we are fighting the same war as 100 years ago.
Everything moves in cycles.
Hrebeljanovic
July 4th, 2010 at 3:56 am
Are you sure that it was the U.S. decision that Yugoslavia was no longer needed or was it Germany in the first place?
conumishu
July 4th, 2010 at 4:00 am
"Nobody in Europe is "refighting the Great War". "
Not with guns. Or, at least, not necessarily with guns. But the Austrian (German backed) empire is already rebuilt as an economic empire. And already strongly contributes to the devastation of some Eastern European countries (including mine). So please don't be so hasty to jump to conclusions. History repeats itself often but seldom in the same form.
And I'm getting a bit tired of the constant excuses big powers' criminal, stupid and imoral actions receive. In the present or in the history books. Most of the history's tragedies are linked with manifestations of raw power which disregards anything else. Small nations can't yield that kind of power and don't benefit from the impunity big sharks have.
Hrebeljanovic
July 4th, 2010 at 4:44 am
Fearless, Austria was not too slow, Serbia kicked her ass twice in 1914. The first ass kick was delivered under the leadership of the duke Stepa Stepanovic and the second one with the great war mastery of the duke Zivojin Misic. Talking about history. Any of the California high school history books that I've read, fails to mention any events involving Serbian military and its people heroic plight for freedom after the assassination in Sarajevo, even though Serbia was U.S. ally in both World Wars. Let us remember, Germany agreed to capitulation after Serbs broke the Southern Front.
In my lifetime I've never met a U.S. citizen, or a blogger, who knew what Southern Front in WWI was. Again, talking about history.
Hrebeljanovic
July 4th, 2010 at 4:51 am
You forgot to mention DeBill Clinton and his frigidaire.
M.S.S.
July 4th, 2010 at 5:10 am
I fail to see how Mr. Malic or this article is connected to the Israeli Lobby as you have not provided sources or evidence to back up your charges. David Fromkin is an impartial and unbiased author who views are in-line with most credible historians. The same can not be said of Eric Margolis. It seems you missed the point of this article.
Stanisalv Kalenic
July 4th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
The importance of this topic can not be over-stated. Let's introduce a few more historical facts which are NOT in dispute. Tyrolean Austria is a land locked country. Austria took on Hungary's compliant and obedient role, while both knew full well that the Habsburgs (therefore Austrians can be the only ruling family – so what of "Austro-Hungarian Empire? Absolutely nothing just a part of the ever recurring Germanic Drang nach Osten. The Danube was (and is) an inconveniently international river leading into the Black Sea. What is a landlocked country to do? Conquer Serbian lands and gain access to Mare Nostrum, through the Adriatic basin, control Danube and access the Black Sea. Nobody ever mentions (another undisputed fact) that all of Vojvodina (today's norther Serbia) was already occupied by The Austro-Hungarian Empire – thereby squeezing the Serbians in a two sided attack (which is exactly the order of battle from the west and from the north) – Serbians could have stayed complacent or as the alternative they could select to properly rate the high degree of peril posed by never ending "Austro-Hungarian" expansion. Consistently as in WW2 and the NATO aggression the Serbians were portrayed as evil barbarians, etc. etc. but the history is slowly seeping even through the iron walls of CNN and other propaganda.
I would wholeheartedly ask Mr. Malic (Mr. Hrebljanovc) et al. to be absolutely accurate, unforgiving, quick, witty and brutal when it comes to the dim-witted views that paint Serbia as a culprit in any of these "wars" – just greed of the empire (this one today – or that one in 1914).
Stanislav
July 5th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Starting with the Roman Empire and concluding with the EU and/or USA, there has always been a very well organized propaganda war against those who thought differently, dressed differently, had different Gods, different habits, etc. etc. The Romans first tried to purge all Pagans (Christians) before promoting themselves into the most Christian nation ever (the Vatican). Germans were "National Socialist" – but NOT communist – nevertheless they "exported" Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels to Russia in hopes of destabilizing the regime of the Eastern Orthodox Tsar Nicholas – it worked. The demonizing of Serbia was so wide spread that most Americans can't tell the difference between Serbians and Palestinians (admittedly there is a consonant S in both nouns). The United States has always had a profound need to keep its vast population under-educated, overworked and monopolized in terms of culture, education, knowledge, desire in acquiring knowledge and all of it with a good reason. It's that much easier to manipulate the masses (and defraud them at the polls, stock market, Enron, etc. etc.) resulting in billions and billions of dollars stolen with impunity.
Zoran
July 5th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Two countries were born in 1918 from the ashes of Austro-Hungary – Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia and both were destroyed / dismantled after Berlin wall fell down in nineties.
What a coincidence and convenience…
E. A. Costa
July 5th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Hašek's The Good Soldier Švejk is on the mandatory reading list.
E. A. Costa
July 5th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
http://goodsoldiersandcloselywatchedtrains.blogsp…
E. A. Costa
July 5th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Isn't interesting–there still is not, as far as one knows, a truly masterful and definitive history of World War I.
Rad Vuckov
July 5th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
I have to add/repeat the one thing that co-conspirators with
Gavrilo Princip, the Serb, where of all three ethnic group in
Bosnia and Herzegovina. But the Serbs are blamed even
today for the events in 1914 and afterward …..
ericsiverson
July 6th, 2010 at 2:37 am
Russia was broke and about bankrupt You all know that doesn't allow you to do just anthing you want . Yelsin was leading a new liberal ineffective democracy . you all know how powerfull a liberal democracy is at doing what needs to be done . None the less Yelsin's efforts ended the bombing against Serbia . Milosevic agreed to pull Serbian troops out of Serbia's Kosovo and Allow the United Nations to police Kosovo untill order could be restablished . The Security council agreed to resolution 1244 . Which claerly stated Kosovo was part of Serbia . Yelsin had promised Milosevic that Russian soldiers would protect the Serbian Christians from the muslim majority . Germany and United States cooked up this NATO story , that NATO was so much better than the United Nations becuase NATO could act quickly as a world powerfull force and get a lot done .
ericsiverson
July 6th, 2010 at 4:03 am
United Nations was precieved by the western democracies as kind of a albatros , a organization that cant get anything done . becuase the commuists or anybody on the Security always stops evrything we want to do . Finally United States the worlds leading S power had found NATO . Now great accomplishments could be quickly carried out . The Soviet Union had Collapsed , Germany was reunited . The S power was standing beside Germany so was the new expanding European union , NATO could now accomplish Germanys 100 yr dream to destroy Yugoslavia , and rule the balkans . Germany used NATO troops and NATO planes this time where as last time they were called nazi's . Nato like the nazi's before them were a organization that could get something done .
Only problem is how they went about doing this . The agreements to end the wars were not really the true intentions . Demonizing the Serbs in the western press and convicting the Serbs of genocide in the ICTY court is not working out as well as NATO , The european union, and the United States thought it would . Evidently the world at large does not believe what the mainstream press says is happending in the ICTY
ericsiverson
July 6th, 2010 at 4:58 am
How they went about destroying Yugoslavia . As with all wars lies and lies , false stories and worse lies , . Bill Clinton said there where a maybe a 100 thousand young muslim boys killed or missing in Kosovo . When the truth was more like 2000 christians and muslims and most of the muslims were killed by other muslim boys With NATO siding with the muslims and Al Qaida . Some US congressmen thought this was going make us well liked in the muslim world . Reading the westernworlds newspapers and information Service we had the Christian Serbs killing evreybody under the leadership of the butcher of the Balkans . But the bigger world must read the trail transcripts or reach conclusions without western elite countries propaganda . Russia is just begging Serbia to let us help you , Other countries that believe NATO was the agressor are INDIA ,CHinia , Indonesia and most asian countries , Russia Israel and most african countries . Inspite of the fact we were fighting to give the muslims more power and with E.U and ALQaidia on our side most muslim countries say they think Serbia was right , So does Brazil and most South American countries .
ericsiverson
July 6th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
So we did not endear ourselves even to the Muslim world by Bombing Yugoslavia . I dont believe we helped our reputation as peacemakeres in Iraq either . The whole world laughed at president Bush's statement , when he said we wanted to save the oil for the Iraqi people . The world does not believe the european Union and the United States are the only countries that can seperate fact from fiction .
The wealthy elite countries are really not respected as much they think in Afganhistan either . We want peace , thats why we bomb evreyone to make them peacable . Condi Rice said Milosevic could not deny the international community . She should have said Milosevic is denying the elite E.U. and Germanys desire to rule the Balkans . This is just one more of the many wars we could have just kept ourselves out of .
kathryn
July 7th, 2010 at 2:24 am
Why did U.S.,England and France go after the Serbian people against the Albanians and Croats? Russia. To show Russia that US could damage Serbia. The world would be wonderful if all people were nice and peaceful but instead heads of countries want to rule the world. Lies are told, scenes are created and the public does not understand they are being led into something they could do without. We the people should always be aware.
mirko
July 7th, 2010 at 5:29 am
Young Malic is no historian. Where does he teach? What institution is he affiliated with? He left Bosna long ago. Is he unemployed or antiwar staffer cum intern?
Solum
July 7th, 2010 at 6:13 am
Better he work for some war-mongering Harvard, with its death-squad PHDs? Let nMalic work quietly wtih us in th prairies.
ericsiverson
July 7th, 2010 at 11:19 am
My thinking puts Germany as the most Guilty one followed by the United States and the whole E.U. . Now today Germany would not dare do this , becuase Russia would surely be there quick . Yugoslavia was destroyed becuase Russia was broke and helpless . The Russians found Putin becuase they have evrey intention of standing up to NATO . My feeling IS Blaire , Clinton , and the German leaders are the war criminals that should be on trail .
3oka
July 7th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Mirko's post is not about Nebojsa, it is about Mirko himself.
He's just one of those natzi scums browsing the internet trying to… whatever.
Bye, bye Mirko.
Solum
July 8th, 2010 at 5:05 am
Hello, hello 30ka (nm), I ask for credentials and you call me "natzi scum." You leave Bosna before almost 20 years. You big-shot Balkan historian? You have no books? No teaching? No job? You refugee, puffer? Who pay your ticket?
Mirko
Zalim
July 12th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Notice the re-current whoredom of Bulgaria in the Balkans- used in succesion by Imperial Austria, Nazi Germany, Stalinist USSR and now the American empire….Notice too that when Bulgaria is on your side the empire is about to expire..".Nema zelen kuce i nema dobre Bugar" the saying goes…