The Foreign Policy Debate: Coke or Pepsi?
Monday’s presidential debate on foreign policy, as one might have expected, supplied more than its share of howlers. Mittens, for example, referred to Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez as one of the “world’s worst actors.” In response to an early Obama administration statement to the effect that “the United States has dictated,” Romney said: “The United States does not dictate to other countries. It frees other countries from dictators.” And he referred to Iran as “the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism” and called for the prosecution of Ahmadinejad for genocide.
It’s hard to guess whether Mittens is really this abysmally ignorant or just pandering to his estimate of his audience’s stupidity.
Let’s start with Chavez. He’s certainly shown a dismaying tendency toward authoritarianism and caudillismo as president of Venezuela. But it’s a safe guess his “Bolivarian Socialism” is nowhere near as godawful as the regime the United States would have replaced him with — and still would — had its attempted coup in 2002 succeeded. At best it would reenact the corporate looting of state assets, rubber-stamping of fake “free trade” treaties, and union-busting carried out by Paul Bremer’s Iraq Provisional Authority. At worst, it would resort to the same secret police and death-squad murders of labor activists as other Latin American regimes installed by U.S.-backed coups in previous decades. Either way, you could count on massive transfers of peasant land back to landed oligarchs.
Apparently the U.S. state’s main criterion for a “bad actor” is someone who doesn’t take orders from Washington — and worse yet, manages to retain power when Washington decides to punish him for it.
As for that bit about “freeing countries from dictators,” my eyes hurt from rolling so much. Yeah, the U.S. freed the hell out of Guatemala, Iran, and Indonesia. Mobutu built pyramids of the skulls of those he liberated. Starting with Goulart in Brazil and Allende in Chile, and proceeding through Operation Condor in the 1970s, the United States “freed” one country after another from left-leaning elected governments and replaced them with military dictatorships. In those days you could identify the “Free World” by all the dictatorships installed by the United States, rather than by the Soviet Union.
And any time you see a U.S. government ranking of “state sponsors of terrorism,” you should always remember to fill in the unspoken “except for the United States.” From the military regime that supplanted Arbenz in 1954 to the Contras in Nicaragua 30 years later, the systematic use of death squads to terrorize labor and landless peasant activists into docility has been a favorite weapon in the American arsenal.
Never mind the direct use of state military power as a terrorist weapon — deliberately blowing up electrical plants and water-purification facilities. When it comes to the murder of hundreds of thousands through fire-bombing as an instrument of state terror, the U.S. has been the unchallenged heavyweight champion since 1945.
Not that Obama is any better. Liberal Democrats, just as much as Republicans, make foreign policy on the assumption stated by Chomsky as “America owns the world.” Obama, as much as Romney, believes the United States bears some sort of messianic obligation to maintain “global security” by determining the outcomes of international disputes, installing “responsible” governments, and deciding who’s allowed to have nukes. Obama, as much as Romney, believes America is the one country whose “defense” capability should be based, not on “legitimate defensive needs,” but on the capability of enforcing its will on the entire rest of the world combined. Obama believes, every bit as much as Madeleine Albright did when she was raining death from the skies over Yugoslavia, that “America is the world’s indispensable nation.”
Obama may believe that America sometimes “makes mistakes” in carrying out this messianic destiny, but he doesn’t question the rightfulness of the destiny itself. Romney uses red-meat rhetoric to appeal to the jingoist bigots in his base. But Obama’s more pacific rhetoric amounts to little more, in practice, than James T. Kirk’s attitude as expressed in the novelty song “Star Trekkin’”: “We come in peace — shoot to kill, shoot to kill ….”
However the 2012 race comes out, the winner will believe America has a unique role in telling the other countries of the world what to do. He’ll murder people — including American citizens — by the thousands with drones with no oversight whatsoever. And he’ll treat the ability to defend against an American attack as a “threat.”
The foreign policy will be the same. But you get to choose whether you want it packaged in idealistic Kennedy liberal rhetoric or troglodytic “kill ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out” rhetoric. So which is it? Coke or Pepsi?
Originally
published at the Center for a Stateless Society. Licensed
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Read more by Kevin Carson
- On Translating Securityspeak Into English – August 27th, 2012
- War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery … and Fighting Back is ‘Aggression’ – January 13th, 2012
- From Arab Spring to Fall Revolution? – October 2nd, 2011
- Romney’s Wrong Again – September 12th, 2011
- Those Libyan ‘Freedom Fighters’: The Fix Is On – May 9th, 2011





Curious
October 24th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
I think the results of the two major corporate options would be: Fake European opposition (only the ones that go along with Obama's imperialism but not Bush's) to the president, and increased recruitment to groups that oppose the US in the middle east (Al Qaeda loves Republicans), or someone who the Europeans will love, and whose rhetoric will not cause as much opposition to the US in the middle east.
Nick Mulgrave
October 24th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
I would check some of those numbers before posting Mohammed.
The population of Indigenous Australians at the time of permanent European settlement has been estimated at between 318,000 and 1,000,000.
The current population of Australia is just over 20 million.
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the lion
October 25th, 2012 at 6:50 am
It should NEVER be forgotten that it was the Republican party under IKE that authorised the CIA Coup in Iran, in fact Truman specifically refused it!
It should NEVER be forgotten that it was the Republicans under IKE again that Authorised initieally the Bay of Pigs
It never should be forgotten that it was the Republicans Under Reagan /Bush Snr that Authorised the teaching of Bin Ladin the art of irregular war!
Just think All of those matters that STILL in some case 60 years ago still cause Blowback today.
There is more Vietnam, Ike was their first helping the French!
Remember the Iran Contra Affair, again Republicans, Granada again the US, even Maggie Thatcher was livid about that!
Yes the Democrats were far from angels, but it seems that the Republicans Follies have a significant history of causing extra long term problems!
Of course the easy way to fix these problems is not to cause them in the first instance!
Watson
October 25th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Just a couple from both sides of the aisle:
How about that good Democrat Truman who unnessarily dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki just to see if they worked after spending so much American research money.
How about LBJ, who sent the first 'combat' troops to Vietnam, following JFK's 'advisors.' That's when the shooting war in 'Nam started.
How about Eisenhower who, as a campaign promise, said he would end the Korean fighting, and just a few months after his inauguration he did.
Lot's more.
freemarketanticapitalist
October 25th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Eisenhower was a pig, but he wasn't responsible for the overthrow of Diem or the Tonkin Gulf Incident. Focusing on second-order stuff like this obscures the fact that, on all the first-order stuff, the Dem and Repub foreign policy establishment is essentially one.
Mohammed
October 25th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I like the answer of this German Scholar when he was asked about terrorism and Islam: He said:
·Who started the First World War, which killed 37 million and injured 22, 379, 053 that includes 7 million civilians?Muslims?
·Who started the Second World War, which killed over 60 million, which was over 2.5% of the world population?Muslims?
·Who killed about 20 million of Aborigines in Australia? Muslims?
·Who drop the nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which killed 166,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki? Muslims?
·Who killed more than 100 million Red Indians in North America?Muslims?
·Who killed more than 50 million Indian in South America?Muslims?
·Who took about 180 million African people as slaves and when 88% of them died, threw them into the Atlantic Ocean?Muslims?
NO
They weren’t Muslims! First of all, you have to define terrorism properly…. If a non-Muslim does something bad… it is crime. But if a Muslim commits the same, he is a terrorist. So first remove the double standard… then come to the point.
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