Today is the seventy-first anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, an act that brought us into World War II, pushed a reluctant America onto the world stage, and ushered in the age of empire. The official history of that event is that it was a "sneak attack" precipitated by war-crazed Japanese militarists, and that the totally unprepared Americans – kept from arming themselves by evil "isolationists" in Congress and the Republican party – were caught completely by surprise.
There is, however, one big problem with this official history: it’s a lie.
The truth is that, by the winter of 1941, the Americans had decrypted the various Japanese military and diplomatic codes: President Roosevelt, key members of his cabinet, and top military leaders, including Gen. George C. Marshall, US Army chief of staff, had access to this intelligence, which was intercepted, decoded, and transmitted directly to them. We know this because Robert Stinnett, in researching his seminal book, Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor, obtained heretofore unknown documents under the Freedom of Information Act, which trace the intelligence stream from interception stations throughout the Pacific to the 36 Americans cleared to look through what was, in effect, a window into Japanese plans and preparations for the Pearl Harbor attack. The President and 35 other Americans in top political and military circles knew where the attack was to take place, they knew when it was to take place, and they watched it unfold, step by step, with full knowledge of its import.
It is widely remarked that even on the eve of Pearl Harbor, the vast majority of the American people stubbornly resisted efforts to drag us into the European war. The Court Historians responsible for constructing the FDR cult would have had great difficulty denying the pattern of presidential prevarication that had us effectively fighting the Axis powers long before war was officially declared. So instead of taking on this impossible task, which would have been laughed out of court, they openly valorized him for his expertise at the art of deception. Thomas Bailey, who taught history at Stanford University for 40 years and authored The American Pageant, long a standard US history textbook, extolled the liar and his lie in his 1948 book, The Man in the Street: The Impact of American Public Opinion on Foreign Policy:
"Franklin Roosevelt repeatedly deceived the American people during the period before Pearl Harbor. He was like the physician who must tell the patient lies for the patient’s own good…. Because the masses are notoriously shortsighted and generally cannot see danger until it is at their throats, our statesmen are forced to deceive them into an awareness of their own long-run interests."
In a rave review of the Bailey volume on the front page of the New York Times Book Review, a young Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., hailed Bailey’s "candor and good sense" in dealing with "the Roosevelt problem." "If he was going to get the people to move at all," wrote the future Official Historian of American liberalism, "he had to trick them."
Trick them he did. He also tricked the Japanese, who had no idea their codes had been broken, thus allowing the Americans access to their internal diplomatic deliberations as well as their military preparations after the peace proposals of then Prime Minister Prince Fumimaro Konoye had been decisively rejected by Washington. Konoye had proposed traveling to the United States on a secret mission to reach an accommodation with Washington over China and Southeast Asia: Washington responded with a disdainful silence – and by leaking the Japanese proposal to the pro-war Herald-Tribune.
A few weeks later, due in no small part to this revelation, the Konoye government fell. Japan’s War Party was in charge, and war preparations had begun on the Japanese side – followed step by step by our extensive intelligence-gathering operation, which intercepted and translated coded Japanese messages almost as soon as they were transmitted, drawing a comprehensive picture of Japan’s war plans weeks before the Pearl Harbor assault.
As Stinnett shows, a Japanese spy at Pearl Harbor, attached to the Japanese consulate, was closely watched, his messages to his superiors decoded and dispatched to Washington, where they were eagerly read. The Japanese had mapped Pearl Harbor down to the last warship, and Ensign Takeo Yoshikawa’s last message to his commander read:
"There are no barrage balloons at these places – and considerable opportunity is left for a surprise attack."
Could it get any clearer than that? Yet when US Admiral James O. Richardson objected to FDR’s insistence on keeping the US fleet bottled up at Pearl Harbor, he was summarily fired.
Secretary of War Henry Stimson’s diary for November 25, 1941 notes a meeting of FDR’s top advisors: "The question was how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into … firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves."
Stinnett’s book provides a wealth of detail, and cites hundreds of supporting documents, including those unearthed thanks to the Freedom of Information Act, which prove conclusively that the movements of the Japanese military as they made their way across the Pacific to Pearl Harbor were well-known to the Americans. The communications of Japan’s chief of the naval general staff, Admiral Osami Nagano, from November 5 to December 2, "violated every security rule," writes Stinnett:
"[Admiral] Yamamoto would direct Vice Admiral Nagumo and the First Air Fleet to set sail from Hitokappu Bay on November 26, 1941 (Tokyo Time), proceed through the North Pacific, and refuel north of Hawaii (transmitted November 25, 1941); and finally, Nagano set the date for commencement of hostile action against the United States, the British Empire, and the Netherlands as December 8, 1941 (Tokyo Time; transmitted December 2, 1941). Based on these transmissions, President Roosevelt and General George Marshall predicted war with Japan would begin the first week of December. We would know even more about what FDR and his chief advisors thought, but the Japanese radio messages remain incomplete, still cloaked in American censorship. Though the author has filed Freedom of Information requests for all communication data concerning Nagano’s messages, the information has not been released."
Of course it hasn’t, and for a very good reason: the myth of the "sneak attack" on Pearl Harbor is a pillar of the "Greatest Generation" narrative that is the foundation of our interventionist foreign policy. That storyline goes something like this: we "saved" the world from the Axis powers, overcoming our "isolationist" inclinations, and went on to create a "world order" in which we established, forevermore, our duty and destiny to police the four corners of the earth and stand up for Goodness, Justice, and Fair Play. Now that we know how FDR lied us into that war, however, the picture becomes a bit more complicated – and certainly less favorable to an American president described by Gen. Douglas MacArthur as a man who "never told the truth where a lie would suffice."
It is a testament to the persistence of mythology in place of actual history that Michael Beschloss, an alleged historian, could tweet the following as the Pearl Harbor anniversary approached: "Friday is Pearl Harbor Day, and no, FDR didn’t knowingly allow the attack to take place."
The Court Historians never rest, for their job is never done: since the truth is eventually going to come out, no matter how strenuously the cover-up is engineered and maintained, they are constantly seeking to marginalize truth-tellers like Stinnett and others, who labor to disinter the facts from the collection of self-serving fables we call "history."
That FDR’s deception holds some lessons for our own day seems too obvious to even comment on, and I’ll let my readers draw their own conclusions as to its meaning and applicability in the present context. I’ll just note that after 70-plus years of government lies, the "news" that the President of the United States could lie us into a war – while sacrificing the American fleet at Pearl Harbor – isn’t half as shocking as it was back when writers like John T. Flynn first made the accusation.
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Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Up Against the FBI – May 23rd, 2013
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013





Nomorewaryouprats
December 6th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
It's convenient to say the least so much dispositive evidence pertaining to our recent history is hidden away. Mischief and mythology flourish behind this veil of secrecy. Truth and accountability are buried. The worst rise to power and every decent national impulse is thwarted. Amerikakistocracy.
jeffersonsspirit
December 6th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Excellent job, as always Justin…however, this quote from the article "….the movements of the Japanese military as they made their way across the Atlantic to Pearl Harbor "
When did Hawaii, or Japan, for that matter, relocate to the Atlantic Ocean? Did I miss something?
Johnny in Wi.
December 6th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Wilson lied us into WW1. Roosevelt lied us into WW2. Truman lied about the reasons for the bombing of Nagaski and Hiroshima. Kennedy lied about the Cuban missle crisis and what the deal to end it was. Johnson lied us into Vietnam. Nixon lied about Watergate and a lot more. Bush lied us into Iraq. Obama lied us in to Libya and is going to lie us into Syria and Iran. Our wonderful allies the Israeli's don't know how to put 2 true words together. Lies, lies, lies, lies. Most politicans don't know how to tell the truth.
David Grayling
December 6th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
"It is widely remarked that even on the eve of Pearl Harbor, the vast majority of the American people stubbornly resisted efforts to drag us into the European war."
This contrasts with the current American who now embraces the idea of endless war. What has caused such a complete change?
Probably the use of fear indoctrination combined with the idea of: "We have to fight them over there!"
RickR30
December 6th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
No surprise there. And if the government knew about the Pearl Harbor attack way back when, are we supposed to believe that none of the dozens of government security agencies consuming billions of dollars and staffed with all those ivy league idiots had a clue about 9/11? History books will have to write that the US is the dumbest most incompetent government in the history of the world, that every couple of decades gets a surprise attack by a vastly inferior force. So what exactly are we paying taxes for?
Since real history shows that the government isn't as ignorant as it should be called, the alternative is that it is indeed evil. And evil on a truly extraordinary scale putting all those little corrupt third world cannibal tyrants to shame. After all, isn't the US an example to the world in terms of democracy, development, and so on? How does a government decide over and over again that war matters more than the people? War at all costs. Apparently our political secularism is just a farce. All those schmucks in DC are secret worshipers of Resheph and netenyahoo is their rabbi. And what exactly has the US gotten out of it?
Anyone care to speculate when did things go so wrong? When did evil take residence in this country? From the very beginning? Or when?
Dr.Khan
December 6th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
The only difference between last and present century would be that it is no more take an individual 71 years to know the truth behind each and every event that took place.Now in 21st century it is under discussion when it happens or is exposed within 7 days.e.g 9/11.
But the main Question still demands an answer.Has knowing it after 71 years can we avoid it from happening again?Sorry but the answer is NO.only good thing now will happen is that our next generations amy not need to wait for such longer periods to know the truth.Rest the game is on.more false flag coming up.US knows Syria is about to use chemical weapons which most probably were provided by CIA gloved hands to the REBELS.well goodluck Syrians if there were any left to suffer after an attack.Iran is another nut case.
Erica DiBrigida
December 7th, 2012 at 2:10 am
Somewhere in the system there was a patriot who made sure the US aircraft carriers were safely out on "maneuvers" beyond the range of the Japanese planes when the "Day of Infamy" dawned. Carriers were the weapon of WWII, while battleships were last-century hardware and expendable. Just as today carriers are so-o-o last-century, which may be why the "Enterprise" has been deployed to the Persian Gulf to become this world war's "Arizona."
Mark
December 7th, 2012 at 3:29 am
Truism: when faced with a situation where the actions of a politician or bureaucrat can only be "Stupid" or "Evil", the said politician or bureaucratic will ALWAYS pick "Stupid" as a defense.
On this you can bet the farm.
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Paul
December 7th, 2012 at 6:07 am
which prove conclusively that the movements of the Japanese military as they made their way across the Atlantic to Pearl Harbor were well-known to the Americans.
It was the Pacific, not the Atlantic. Please edit your work before publish it.
musings
December 7th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Stanford professor Thomas Bailey writing in 1948 about "the masses" being led by "statesmen" – what a different perception of the world than we have today, I would hope. But it was a lie then too. "The masses" are those not in the know about "occult" matters, such as breaking the Japanese code or whatever dirty tricks were played on 9/11. Taking the authorities at their word (whether the speech made by Roosevelt to Congress after Pearl Harbor, or all the lies following the aptly named "Second Pearl Harbor"), is what gets "the masses" into trouble. Because unfortunately they don't kick the tires enough, and aren't sufficiently into "conspiracy theories", so they die for their country instead of making their leaders die for theirs.
What if an impeachment had followed Pearl Harbor? Unthinkable!
On another level, and I think this is where long-time "conspiracy theorists" come into play, much to professional hagiographers' chagrin (e.g. Michael Beschloss): they take the attitude that leaders are cynical, manipulative, double-dealing with the public, and frankly willing to sacrifice American lives to get to a goal. A funeral pyre of thousands of dead Americans – whether by an outside attack or an inside job – is acceptable to them if it brings them closer to the goal they have chosen. They make their bones, and then they cover over the grave with the red, white and blue and rally us to the cause, from a podium or a pile of rubble, using a policeman's megaphone. In their hearts, they worship one thing: their own power. Without it, they would be seen as criminals.
WWII American isolationism was sometimes tainted by sympathy for Hitler's cause, but this was not the only form of it. However in order to make heroes of those who allowed thousands of Americans to meet fiery deaths in the holds of ships without allowing preparation for the attack, it is necessary to have a villain, and you can find enough Nazi sympathizers to do that.The point is, there is no connection between those who know that Pearl Harbor was a set-up and those who joined the American Bund. It is not about political belief, it is about physical evidence. Same with 9/11 and antisemitism.
musings
December 7th, 2012 at 6:52 am
I might add that to rub in the message of Japanese perfidy, to make an enemy of all the Japanese, it was NECESSARY to intern Japanese-Americans in camp without due process of law or any constitutional protections whatsoever. Because that reified the message that we were dealing with a group of people so treacherous that they were capable of anything. The "worst of the worst" at Gitmo got the same white-glove service in order to reify the message of 9/11 that we were dealing with truly invasive evil. Got felt up by TSA lately? Got propagandized. We are the new internees – within us flourishes a terrible evil which will not be rooted out in our lifetimes….The Constitution is a "quaint document" from a different world. "9/11 changed everything."
richard vajs
December 7th, 2012 at 7:25 am
The important reason why it took 70 some years for the truth to out is this – the American people did not want to know the truth; the pain would be too great. All of the patriotic pride, the visceral hatred of the Japanese, and the uplifting feelings of "importance" of being part of a mighty war machine – all of these these emotions would have turned to ruinous despair had the public known the truth. No-one can handle having their "ultimate sacrifice" trivialized. Similiarly, it is going to take many years for the truth of 9-11 to be accepted common knowledge. We will probably have to wait until all of the "heroes" of 9-11 pass on, Israel to join the trashbin of history, the DHS and the War on Terror Warriors retire, etc.
Bruce Richardson
December 7th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Excellent analysis and articulation of a very significant rendition of an historical event largely dismissed or revised by the major media icons over time. Robert Stinnett's book is a wonderful and factual account of this dangerous period in US history. Admiral James O. Richardson is my Great Uncle. I vividly recall my father and others in the immediate family ruminating over the tragic events on December 7, 1941 and Admiral Richardson's subsequent firing by FDR. Within my family circle, the dialogue and conjecture centered around the fact that our uncle threatened FDR that he would indeed go to the press with the story that the "Fleet were sitting ducks" and that US Naval Intelligence had an operational plan to provoke and thereby induce the attack on that fateful morning.
And "the rest is history as they say."
Andy
December 7th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Bush called 9/11 our new Pearl Harbor. The parallels are astonishing.
TooTrue
December 7th, 2012 at 9:03 am
You forgot Lincoln.
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Seti 1
December 7th, 2012 at 9:07 am
The national pacifism of the US before Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with the German-American Bund, who were a small group of losers held in contempt by everyone else. My father was an MC during 1940-41 and I worked on the floor of the House as a page for those two years. Members, with rare exceptions, were males of an age who had seen service during WWI and many were veterans of the fighting in France. They were completely disillusioned about what they saw as a repeat of that experience. They were determined that it would not happen again and were furious with Roosevelt for risking war. Some believed he was intentionally trying to involve us. I've lived long enough that I no longer believe "the truth will come out". It rarely does and I don't think It's quite as settled on the Pearl Harbor debate as Raimondo would have us believe.
Justni Raimondo
December 7th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Corrected! Thanks for the correction: that's what happens when you have to "proofread" your own work!
TooTrue
December 7th, 2012 at 9:14 am
If we don't want to wait another 60 years to expose the analogous documents regarding 9-11, I suggest we start looking under Netanyahu's mattress.
Chris Herz
December 7th, 2012 at 9:41 am
This is an hoary old legend first perpetrated by the right wing in efforts to discredit Franklin Roosevelt. At the worst the US authorities knew war was coming and the Japanese fleet was at sea. But no one knew just where the blow would fall.
Roosevelt could be machiavellian as could be, but he also loved the old battleship Navy and would never have acquiesced in its destruction.
chris Kelly
December 7th, 2012 at 9:52 am
What a crock! FDR did not lie us into WWII and he certainly did not "force" the Japanese to attack–that decision was made by Tojo and his crew in Tokyo. Yes, they were working on decrypting the Japanese messages with Magic, but the intelligence was incomplete. No reputable historian of the war (not Beevor, Roberts, Keegan, etc.) subscribe to this nonsense. See my post "Good Riddance Ron Paul" only here.. .http://americanconservativeinlondon.blogspot.co.uk/
muggles
December 7th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Yes, if you ignore all of the now revealed documentary evidence (some still classified/redacted!) you can claim "hoary old legend" and still worship FDR as a sentimental guy who would never deliberately let the Navy become the target of an attack. This evidence clearly shows that Pearl Harbor was the only logical Japanese attack choice being considered and of course US military analysts also agreed.
Most people now acknowledge that Bush Jr. deliberately lied about "evidence" of Iraqi WMD to start an aggressive war, so why is sainted FDR immunce from the same judgement?
Generalissimo X
December 7th, 2012 at 10:21 am
of course he did. the pathetic anglophile would have done anything to help the u.k.
and do we really have to wait 70 years for the same acknowledgement of the 9-11 attacks when there is a ton of tangible evidence?
JohnDowser
December 7th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Perhaps in 70 years we'd get a more fact-driven answer to the questionable events leading up to 9/11? For now one can only see the outlines of the same old crude playbook: a lethal cocktail of deniability, secrecy, "not prevent opponent coming for you but if needed even helping him" and of course finally the exploitation of the naivety and emotions of administrators and the general populace alike.
Strider55
December 7th, 2012 at 11:30 am
The fact that FDR ordered the Pacific Fleet moved from California (where it was safe from Japanese carriers) to Hawaii (where it was the proverbial fish in a barrel) is the true clincher. At Pearl, the fleet effectively had a huge "KICK ME!" sign taped to it.
I find it more than a little amazing that Justin fails to mention that Stinnett, after carefully documenting the ironclad case against FDR in Day of Deceit, then defends his murderous duplicity: "I sympathize with the agonizing dilemma faced by President Roosevelt. He was forced to find circuitous means to persuade an isolationist America to join in a fight for freedom." IOW, the end justifies the means — the notorious neocon/Straussian "noble lie." For that reason, I refuse to buy the book and give Stinnett a cent of royalty.
musings
December 7th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Astonishing to the point of providing a playbook.
musings
December 7th, 2012 at 11:36 am
It didn't take that long. I had a babysitter when I was little, a Southern woman, and she told me this, back in the early 60's when my parents were proud of my grandfather's association with FDR. Of course I judged her to be "ignorant" because she happened to be fatter than my mother was. But evidently the rank and file of Americans doubted the official story even then, maybe more so among so-called "hicks" and "rednecks" like Edna M.
musings
December 7th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Of course there are always people who go beyond mere devil's advocate to be fully in sympathy with the devil (i.e. authoritarian power). Thanks for the reminder about the Straussian "noble lie" which has the same ancestry as the German propaganda machine of Nazism. The "problem" for all these movers and shakers is the "mass" of people who normally exercise all of society's common sense judgments without which we wouldn't have running water and roads. You have to make them see what isn't there to get a rise out of them, and so elaborate pantomime is necessary, where a snuff picture is not out of the question.
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charles caruso
December 7th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Clare Boothe Luce said FDR arranged the Pearl Harbor attack to get us into war with Germany, not Japan, which we knew we could easily beat. When FDR declared war on Japan on Dec. 8 he knew that Hitler would immediately declare war on the U.S., assuring himself an unwinnable two-front war — and assuring the U.S. postwar world hegemony.
(By the way most of our ships sunk in shallow water at Pearl were revamped in time for the Battle of Midway, the turning point of the Pacific war. And our decisive aircraft carriers were safely at sea on
Dec. 7.)
VietnamWarVeteran
December 7th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Remember the Maine? – boiler exploded but we blamed the Spanish and went to war aganst them.
Remember the Gulf of Tonkin 'resolution' that escalted US into the Vietnam War? – about the attack on those two US destroyers that NEVER happened.
Remember all of those NON-existent WMDs in Iraq?
Remember how the 9/11 terrorists all trained to fly airplanes in the US and NOT in Afghanistan?
Has the US ever entered a war that was NOT based on LIES by our leaders?
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musings
December 7th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Quite a "noble" track record – of the "noble lie" told to accomplish some supposedly loftier goal. Americans are there to be sacrificed to the cause, just ripe for the picking so they can be trampled into vintage wars. Don't you wonder how those other countries do it, the ones who aren't always going to war? What could they teach us?
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
History books will have to write that the US is the dumbest most incompetent government in the history of the world, that every couple of decades gets a surprise attack by a vastly inferior force.
No, the U.S. has the nastiest MOST EVIL government in the history of the world, in large measure because, unlike overtly murderous and tyrannical regimes, it cloaks its evil in the rhetoric virtue and good.
These despicable creatures, far from being "dumb" and "incompetent" know full well what they're doing and how destructive it is to the lives and liberty of the citizenry. We can only hope that it all finally blows up in their faces – and soon.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
"…rhetoric OF virtue and good." Sorry.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
One silver lining of the "today vs. yesterday" view is that most people today no longer trust government at ANY level to do the right thing or tell the truth. That probably wasn't nearly so widely the case on December 6, 1941, when most Americans still, for God only knows what reason (the entrenchment of the "Progressive" mindset, perhaps, over the previous half century?), believed that government, whatever its major flaws, still stood generally for the common good.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I'd hardly call this a "patriotic" move. It was a carefully calculated strategic move by the cabal of liars. They realized that the aircraft carriers would be essential to successfully fighting –and extending– their war and weren't about to see them put in harm's way when their deliberately-provoked attack took place. As for the rest of the Navy at Pearl Harbor, they also knew that most of the rest of the fleet was expendable/replaceable, especially the battleships. Heck, they probably looked at the attack as an opportunity to "clear the naval order of battle" of these floating dinosaurs without having to fight the necessary political battles to do it peacefully.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
As Justin said, he has no staff on hand to proofread his work. As one who knows from personal experience, even the most conscientious and careful of writers cannot objectively proofread his own work with full accuracy.
Cut Justin some slack and focus on the important points that he makes here rather than obviously trivial errors.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Yep, and a plainly and painfully obvious one at that. The Majority walk around with blinders on.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
It was the "hicks" and "rednecks" who were among the first to see through the machinations of St. Woodrow the Great after he lied America in "the Great War." Draft dodging was apparently epidemic throughout the southern states, so much so that special "posses" of federal agents were dispatched throughout the South to put a stop to it.
It stands to reason that the South would have been one of the first bastions of resistance to neo-imperialism at the time. After all, the memory of defeat in the quest for independence from Rome-on-the-Potomac was still fresh in the minds of many Southerners. Given the enthusiasm for war and empire emanating from the "red" southern states today, it becomes painfully obvious how very far down the Noble have fallen.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Make that "…INTO "the Great War."
Dang, TWICE in one day. We need an editing feature here!
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Bruce:
You should be proud of having a great uncle who was ready to stand up and do the right thing. If only today's sorry excuses for "flag officers" had even a soupcon of that kind of moral fiber, it is very likely that the American Empire would have died the death it deserved long ago.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
"Tojo and Crew in Tokyo" only made the decision to attack the U.S. (something that they, as well as Admiral Yamamoto and others, knew very well to be a SUICIDAL move) because they were cornered into doing so. U.S. embargoes on raw materials imposed on Japan had driven the Japanese government to the point of desperation. Had Prince Konoye's proposed diplomatic mission (one of several such overtures attempted on the part of the imperial government) been met with interest by the U.S. government, the Pearl Harbor attack would probably have been delayed indefinitely, or probably averted altogether. Of course this was the last thing that FDR and his cabal of bankster-controlled interventionists wanted, which is why Prince Konoye and the rest of the Japanese diplomatic corps were not only ignored, but treated with contempt.
Oswaldwasalefty
December 7th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
The other myth is that Japan attacked without provocation. Not true. The U.S. and Britain were effectively at war with Japan, having instituted an oil embargo against Japan. This essay by Chomsky in 1967 is a good review of the Japanese position in the lead up to Pearl Harbor:
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/196709–.htm
I believe in this essay that Chomsky compares Japanese counter insurgency efforts in rural Manchuria to the U.S. in rural South Vietnam at the time.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
We already have all the real answers to the 9-11 Deception. The trick is in getting the Amoricon Sheeple Majority to open their eyes and ears and engage their tiny, atrophied brainlets in accepting obvious, if painful truths.
liberranter
December 7th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Has the US ever entered a war that was NOT based on LIES by our leaders?
Not since the American Revolution (and I'd bet that even in that case, detailed research might dig up a few whoppers from Washington, Jefferson, Madison, et al.).
It seems that the Amoricon public actually ENJOYS being lied to, especially if the lies play to their delusions of "national greatness." They're too slow on the uptake to link the lies with their ultimate costs and their attention spans are shorter than those of adolescent houseflies – perfect for ensuring that they fall for the same bag of tricks over and over and over and over again.
musings
December 7th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Oddly enough, while my grandfather was working for FDR to provide Lend Lease to the British, my mother's best friend in high school was the daughter of isolationist Senator Lundeen of Minnesota. Like Paul Wellstone, this other Minnesota senator died in a plane crash at the onset of a game-changing period in history (1940)). Wellstone voted against both Iraq wars. I believe that Lundeen voted against getting involved with the British cause in 1940, after Poland had been invaded (and Britain honoring a pact with Poland, was at war with Germany). My grandfather was later mentioned extensively in footnotes of Ships for Victory, as one who integrated shipyards to increase the war effort. Ironically, he was originally protege of isolationist Joseph P. Kennedy who, like others, changed his direction after Pearl Harbor.
musings
December 7th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Timeline: Germany invades Poland Sept. 1, 1939 – due to British treaty, they are now in the war
Senator Lundeen voted in 1917 as a Representative against the US entry into WWI against Germany
Senator Lundeen dies in plane crash August 1940
Congress votes for Lend Lease in March 1941
Pearl Harbor happens Dec. 7, 1941, and because Germany is an ally of Japan, the Congressional vote for war means war with both Germany and Japan.
The sons of notable isolationists now go to war along with the sons of pro-war advocates, after Pearl Harbor. After 9/11, very few if any neocon sons don the uniform of their country. They order take-out. Could it be that reaching victory was never the goal, but rather something else?
Jaime
December 7th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Maybe you should have also proofread your three lines: if we want to use a verb after a preposition, it must be a gerund; that is, your sentence should read, "Please edit your work before [publishing] it."
Jaime
December 7th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
The parallels between Pearl harbor and 9/11 are disturbing. In both cases, we can see a cabal of pathological criminals willing to do anything to achieve their ends. To do this, the leat of their concerns is the lives of people whether in the US or abroad.
Perry
December 7th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I'm sorry, but this article is entirely wrong. I hate FDR, and would love to believe terrible things of him, but in this instance, details matter.
"The Codebreakers", by Kahn, is a scholarly account of the history of cryptography and has a very, very long section that describes US codebreaking efforts vs. the Japanese in great detail, including all important details above that are entirely distorted or missing and a complete hour-by-hour account of what was intercepted when in the days before Pearl Harbor.
Again, I am not a fan of FDR or of wars, but one has to be scrupulously accurate in discussing such matters, and this essay is simply completely incorrect in all details.
Daniel J. Sanchez
December 7th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
And McKinley.
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bonnie
December 7th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Nixon lied about Watergate? ha haa ha oh the horror by comparison. Nixon was actually quite decent, except he had some bad advisers, Volker,in the treasury, the only democrat being one of them.
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Duglarri
December 7th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
If the politicians in Washington knew the carriers were more valuable than the battleships, then they knew more than naval people knew at the time. Remember, this was before the British lost two unescorted battleships near Singapore. Until then no one had lost a battleship to aircraft.
Eric de Bear
December 7th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
If anyone wanted to know the truth there were enough books already written on the subject as early as the early sixties. I even wrote a paper about it for my High School graduation in 1965. However, not in the US but in Berlin, Germany. I just used the books in the local public library, no secret papers. Unfortunately, I can't remember the names of the authors. But the FDR trick was no secret even back then.
Duglarri
December 7th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
You could flip this conspiracy theory on its head. Look at the comedy of errors between Kimmel and Short that allowed the surprise attack to take place? How did FDR hope to arrange for them to screw up so unpredictably? Granted most of these incidents are anecdotal, but:
- What if the Army's mountaintop radar that picked up the incoming attack had been heeded?
- What if the fighters had been dispersed as a precaution instead of gathered together?
- What if the destroyer that depth-charged the mini-sub trying to get into the harbor had triggered a full alert?
- What if Kimmel had not assumed Short was sending patrol planes to the north-east, and had sent some himself- which he had available to send?
One could go on and on with possible ways the attack could have been picked up and the outcome could have been very different.
What would have happened to the Japanese attack if they'd encountered 200 P-40's over the harbour?
The conspiracy theory requires FDR to have counted on all these various mistakes combining to enable to Japanese to attack successfully.
What if the plan was to have them attack unsuccessfully?
It seems far more likely that FDR did indeed want to make them strike first, but that he and his people had no idea that their Hawaii commanders, and some hours later (with even less excuse), MacArthur, would screw up so royally, and turn what should have been a battle into a devastating disaster.
bonnie
December 7th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Progressives or Communist, Socialists, Leftists, Rightists, Centrists, Fascists, etc… Are all the same. Trying to break them into groups is fruitless. There comes a time when you say to yourself, am I for liberty or not; period end of sentence, What do you want to be? Only you can answer that question.
Do you want to love your government more than yourself?
Ask not what your government can do for you, but what you can do for yourself. (edited to take out the word "government":)
Mark Thomason
December 7th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
"When FDR declared war on Japan on Dec. 8 he knew that Hitler would immediately declare war on the U.S"
Nobody "knew" Hitler would do something so stupid. FDR was surprised, and yes he was pleased too.
Mark Thomason
December 7th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
They were not on maneuvers. They were delivering fighter aircraft to distant islands expected to be under attack. The Enterprise was only hours away from her return to Pearl Harbor.
We had been tracking the Japanese invasion force past the Philippines on to Malaya for days. It left port to invade on Dec 3 (Western time) and was seen by our recon planes on the 5th and 6th. We thought that was the attack. We would never have done what Japan did, attack all over at the same time. We believed in concentration, while they put a higher priority on surprise, misdirection, and initiative.
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mulegino
December 7th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Undoubtedly true; FDR quite openly wanted war with "agressor nations" from the time of his "quarantine" speech in 1937. Hitler did not want war with the US, and Germany exercised considerable restraint in the face of FDR's illegal and undeclared naval war in the Atlantic- so Japan was to be humiliated and backed into a corner from whence she would have no choice but to strike, thus involving the US in the war through the "back door."
In FDR's mind, the necessity of US entrance into the war must have acquired a special urgency after June 22, 1941, since not only the British Empire, but his beloved Soviet Union was now in danger of destruction. This explains the summarilly dismissive attitude of the US administration towards any realistic chance for peace with Japan; the back door would be opened by utter bullying and intransigence if necessary.
The war was fought by the "allies" for two parallel, and often conflicting purposes- from the British and American Anglophile perspective, to once for all destroy Germany, so that she would never again be the dominant power in continental Europe (at least in a military sense), and from the Soviet Union's (and its American sympathizers) perspective, to conquer Europe, from the Urals to the Channel (and beyond) as a springboard for worldwide Soviet hegemony, perhaps in conjunction with an increasingly sympathetic America.
mulegino
December 7th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
FDR not only lied the nation into war, he was, at least in part, responsible for its outbreak in Europe as well, by encouraging the foolish British and French promises (which their respective governments knew they could not honor) to Poland, with his pledge that the US would enter the war at a later date. These promises led to Polish intransigence regarding Danzig and the Corridor and turned a simple territorial dispute into a major European conflict.
FDR maintained a clandestine correspondence with fellow warmonger Churchill behind the backs of the American people, Congress, and then Prime Minister Chamberlain- a reckless and undiplomatic move.
He engaged in an illegal naval war against Germany in the Atlantic, hoping that the Germans would commit a casus belli, but was unsuccessful as Hitler would not take the bait.
In subsequent secret agreements with Churchill and Stalin at Tehran and Yalta, he betrayed the Poles, and all Eastern Europeans by acquiescing in the dismemberment of the former, and their enslavement along with the latter, thereby negating the putative purpose of the war- the territorial integrity and independence of Poland. FDR, along with his two partners in crime, the drunken warmonger and the mass murdering Georgian, will indeed- if God is just- live in infamy as one of the most destructive men who ever lived.
RobertB
December 7th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Hitler was obligated to declare war on the States:
Article 3 of the Three-Power Pact Between Germany, Italy, and Japan, Signed at Berlin, September 27, 1940 states that " … They further undertake to assist one another with all political, economic and military means when one of the three contracting powers is attacked by a power at present not involved in the European war or in the Chinese-Japanese conflict."
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Mike
December 8th, 2012 at 8:22 am
I am not too keen on the idea that FDR knew they were coming either. But he did do everything he could to provoke the Japanese into firing the first shot.
Strider55
December 8th, 2012 at 9:27 am
- What if the Army's mountaintop radar that picked up the incoming attack had been heeded?
Radar was a brand-new technology in 1941 and not considered reliable. At any rate, by coincidence a flight of US bombers was scheduled to arrive that morning; the supervisor assumed that's what the radar had picked up. That's also why local radio stayed on the air all night — to give the bombers a homing beacon, which the Japanese also used.
- What if the fighters had been dispersed as a precaution instead of gathered together?
They were dispersed. Then Gen. Short ordered them parked wingtip to wingtip, supposedly to guard against sabotage. Would he have done that had he and Adm. Kimmel not been kept out of the loop? Not unless he was a Japanese sleeper agent.
Strider55
December 8th, 2012 at 9:29 am
You need to open an Intense Debate account. Then you can edit your posts. I'd love to have $1 for each of my edits. :-o
And you're right about Southern opposition to the "Great War," despite Wilson being a Virginian. The famous Sgt. York was a very reluctant draftee. It's a shame the people didn't just shoot the federal posses, dispose of the bodies, and then say "Draft posses? Ain't seen no draft posses around here!" After all, the British use of "press gangs" was a contributing factor in the colonies' secession from the Empire (see the Declaration of Independence). Why the change? Decades of Yankee indoctrination in the schools, plus the abundance of military bases in Dixie (IMHO, at least).
bonnie
December 8th, 2012 at 11:34 am
That site is hilarious, thanks, I bookmarked it for later.
So you hate commie/socialists but you love FDR the socialist, because he brings your real first love, war? You hate Obama because he's a commie/socialist but you love him because he has our military killing people in the middle east? You like Ron Paul on some of economics and his being a libertarian, but you don't really think he is a libertarian, or a republican, and for goodness sakes he keeps talking about peace when you want to bomb bomb bomb them all!
You're a regular crusader huh?
chris Kelly
December 8th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
This article is based primarily on Robert Stinnett's book Day of Deceit. Stinnett was an Oakland Times sports photographer who served in the US Navy. His ironically-titled book is filled with lies, half truths and un-sourced claims.
The IPN used radio silence on the trip from Tokyo the attack on PH. There was no radio traffic to intercept or decrypt. Japanese sources verify this and these would be supremely difficult for FDR to "manipulate". Bottom line: FDR did not know the details of the Japanese attack prior to 12/7. That does not mean.
This article just shows how far the rot (ignorance of history) has spread.
http://americanconservativeinlondon.blogspot.co.u…
chris Kelly
December 8th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Nice rant but what about lies from Ron Paul? There was a whopper in his farewell address. See my post "Good Riddance Ron Paul" only here…
http://americanconservativeinlondon.blogspot.co.u…
PEACE EVER AFTER
December 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Also 9/11 and the reasons for the Kennedy assasination should be added to the lies.
PEACE EVER AFTER
December 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I remember the Japanese were called "Japs" and in political cartoons were shown with buck teeth and rat like features.Hatred and bigotry ran rampent.
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Mike
December 8th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Uh, yes they did force them you idiot. What the hell do you think economic sanctions are? Love notes?
Geez these morons living in denial are so weak minded.
Mike
December 8th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Sorry idiot. You have already posted that twice. Now go back to school little man.
Mike
December 8th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I agree that FDR probably didn't know they were coming but you're a complete moron if you think FDR wasn't trying to provoke the Japanese into war. The evidence is irrefutable.
Moron.
jim p
December 8th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Explain again how the American people wouldn't want war with Japan if the US was fully prepared at Pearl Harbor. And even if every single one of 353 attacking Japanese planes were shot down and our casualties were blisters from firing so many shots, you're saying the American people would have said… what?
"Ha ha Japanese. We sured showed you something, but gum! Now, let's let bygones be bygones, and you boys behave yourself, hear?"
Really. That's why FDR had to "allow" Pearl Harbor, because … the American people wouldn't have taken umbrage enough? Really?
Really? And, what? We'd apologize to them, you think?
btw, the back of the first edition of Stinnett's book is a photo of him on a boat with his lifelong friend and business partner, (iirc, from their days together in military uniform) George Herbert Walker Bush. Yup. In other words, from the direct lineage of people whose real purpose is to destroy the New Deal; those who charged coverup immediately following the attack. George's dad, Prescott, chief among them. Who also had nice business suppling the Luftwaffe and banking connections with the Nazis.
If you read Stinnett's book without saying, along with him, "therefore this bit MUST have been known by the people who MUST have known that bit" kind of — and here, the term is properly used — conspiracy theory, you'll see it's embarrassing.
If that's not obvious to you, then explain again why the American people would forgive the Japanese for an attack with 353 planes, even if they were all shot down.
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didi
December 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Now, who was invading China and killing Chinese at the time, the US or Japan? The oil embargo had an objective.
did
December 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Wrong. Germany was only obligated if the US had been the first attacker.
didi
December 9th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Of course it was a mythology, nay a pure fabrication that the Japanese had been invaders/aggressors of China for almost one decade at the time of Pearl Harbor. Nay, the Japanese were a peace-loving, hard-working, innocent nation which had not the slightest intention of harming anyone in that region. The fact that Indo-China, Malaysia, the Philippines, and the current Indonesia were invaded almost immediately after pearl Harbor was an accident. Those invasions had not been planned by Japan, right?
james
December 9th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Bonnie, this guy is your regular run of the mill a**hole, all he passes is crap.
Nomorewaryouprats
December 9th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Say, how's our playing Global RoboCop working out for us just now? No one is claiming Japan did not have expansionist aims. The mythology Justin is disputing is that Roosevelt didn't know an attack on Pearl Harbor was coming in time to avoid it, and that Roosevelt and the British left the Japanese an honorable alternative preferable to a war for resources.
Mark
December 9th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Actually, Roosevelt received clear cut messages from Ambassador Grew in Japan as early as January 1941 concerning Japanese planning for attacking Pearl Harbor. He obtained his information from a very reliable source; the Peruvian secrete service. Yes. It's true. Peru has had a very close relationship with Japan for a long time and Japan sent large numbers of its population to live in Peru in the late 1800's and early 1900's. There was a very close relationship between Japanese and Peruvian intelligence agencies which lead to a breach in security that Roosevelt could have used to prepare our Country. Instead he buried these communications in his private papers which are not to be released until 2035. However, there were eye witnesses to these communications which were released to some in the Republican side of the U.S. Senate.
In addition, books regarding the likelyhood of a Pearl Harbor attack had been published as early as the mid 1920's. So the potential for an attack was welll known and should have been fully prepared for long before it happened.
Bonnie
December 9th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
In Eisenhower's book, Crusade in Europe, he even says they were building the Army before the attack, but they couldn't move them. "The attack at Pearl Harbor was less than four months away when Congress passed the Selective Service Extension Act, permitting the movement of all Army components overseas and extending the term of service. The congressional action can be attributed to the personal intervention of General George C. Marshall, who had already attained a public stature that gave weight to his urgent warning."
liberranter
December 10th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Yes, but that objective had nothing to do with the Japanese slaughter of massive numbers of Chinese (something that the U.S. and other Western powers were by no means averse to do doing themselves – and had done in the past). The embargoes had everything to do with stopping the Japanese Empire from becoming powerful enough to become a real competitor, enabling them to pose a threat to the access to raw materials and export markets that the U.S. (and other Western powers) coveted for themselves.
To put it crudely, the embargoes against Japan were one tactic for "keeping the little yellow bastards in their place."
chris Kelly
December 11th, 2012 at 4:52 am
For my full response where I demolish this article please see my post "FDR in London & Pearl Harbor" only here….
http://americanconservativeinlondon.blogspot.co.u…
I have already received comments from the historian Andrew Roberts which you will find.
Also see "Conspiracy Theories Old and New" for grins!
Chris Kelly
December 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
As Andrew Roberts pointed out in his comment on my blog, FDR was a former Navy Secretary. He loved the navy and never would have failed to alert them had he known. This conspiracy theory is pure malarkey based on the racist presumption that the Japanese could not have achieved strategic surprise–guess what–they did! Very sloppy history. Bob Stinnett, a sports photographer, is not a credible source.
http://americanconservativeinlondon.blogspot.co.u…
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RichardKanePA
December 15th, 2012 at 2:38 am
The surprise at Pearl Harbor is that Japan called off their invasion of Hawaii
RichardKanePA
December 15th, 2012 at 9:11 am
History has been lost as well as hidden:
The Western cause was on the surface totally hopeless after Hitler invaded France. And on the surface it made zero sense for the West not to give up. But beneath the service the West had broken the Nazi and Japanese secret code giving the West a totally secret advantage.
Thus when Hitler tired of bombing London and decided to attack the province, as well, the citizens of Coventry were sitting ducks. With Pearl Harbor the sailors there were told to be on alert but expected Guam would be attacked that December instead.
There was supposed to be new aircraft flow in that day and radar was primitive. If that was a lie and a green sailor put in charge so the Japanese invader would discover that the aircraft carriers weren’t there, and turn around and go home, I say great strategy.
More recently a hate movie had a facial hairless man being calling into a tiny hut where he spouted and short neatly trimmed beard and the tiny hut transformed into a huge room, and his beard throughout the film trailer keep growing but he was always immaculately clear until the last scene where it was wild and blood spattered.
If the CIA lied that the Ambassador’s death was caused by the movie. Thank you CIA for that lie that saved hundreds of Americans and thousands of Muslims from tit for tat revenge killings. If the attack was allowed to happen so as not to harm the CIA conduct among the attackers I hope he wasn’t a double agent like the one who blew up 5 CIA experts.
If Ambassador Christopher Stevens chose to die to stop World War III between the US and the Muslim World, I wish there was some way to thank him. I thank all the relatives of those four brave Americans for stopping their loved one’s deaths be used for hate.
Arron Armadillo
December 17th, 2012 at 2:13 am
Forgive a measure of skepticism, but I've heard these claims before (they've been around since 1942) and want to be sure this is something new. Anyone can play the Monday moring quarterback and say Roosevelt "should" have known because the attack could have been "inferred" from all the information available at the time.
That's such old news, I'd be ashamed to recycle it. However attention seeking sensationalists forget that having the ability to obtain the information and actually having the information are two different things. They like to confuse the two for promotional shock value. $$, you know!
Arrron Armadillo
December 17th, 2012 at 2:20 am
Continued from comment above—
These facts were so well known 40 years ago, that they were featured in the 1970 high-budget film, "Tora, Tora, Tora."
–the US was intercepting and decoding the secret messages sent from Japan to their embassy in Washington through December 6th.
–(vividly presented in the film) the second to the last message pointed to a planned, future attack at Pearl Harbor Hawaii, but without a date or time.
–the film vividly dramatizes this information being obtained and urgently forwarded to the President on the 5th or 6th of December. Roosevelt said he would send a strong message to the Emperor of Japan (presumably no sooner than December 8th).
–American decoders were disappointed because they "felt" the messages "suggested" that the threat was immediate. Roosevelt did not.
–A standard telegram was sent to Pearl Harbor. It arrived before the attack, but was only delivered hours after.
If this is "all you got," the statement that Roosevelt ”knew” is "misleading," to use the nicest word possible.
L. Amos
February 26th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
This is a vivid deomstration of someones political opinions allowing them to follow someone who "proposes" to know through careful research of "just released", "classified" documents that Roosevelt's administration and the President himself know of the attack on Peral Harbor. Stinnett had an agenda. We have seen many people be able to build a case for almost any event in History with documents from and after the period. To wit… Those HORRIBLY MISGUIDED souls who claim the Holocast never happened. For my money Stinnett is a fool as is the author of this article. No way President Roosevelt sacrifices every Battleship in the Pacific fleet. Those who claim that the Navy protocol was going to Carriers have no concept of Naval protocol of this period. This idea is absurd.
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