The political class is aghast at the spectacle of one after another of their holy icons falling: first it was David Petraeus, outed by a lone FBI agent in Tampa who took the discovery of his affair with Paula Broadwell to the House Republican leadership and effectively dynamited the CIA chieftain’s career. Now it’s Gen. John Allen, commander of US forces in Afghanistan: the discovery of his “thousands of pages of emails” to Jill Kelley — a 37-year-old looker whose complaints of email “harassment” garnered the full attention of the FBI and led to the downfall of Petraeus — has him in the dock.
Who’s next?
One could easily succumb to the temptation to simply cackle, like Madame Defarge, and attend to one’s knitting as heads roll. Rather than give in to such pure indulgence, however, this writer would much prefer to pursue the answer to a puzzling question: what is going on here? Is this just about the rutting habits of the lords and ladies of Washington, the national security realm’s version of Days of Our Lives — or is what we’re witnessing the equivalent of a palace revolution?
I would go with what Paula Broadwell’s father, Paul Kranz, told the New York Daily News:
“Broadwell’s father said Sunday his daughter is the victim of character assassination and implied the bombshell story is just a smoke screen for something bigger.
“’This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out. There is a lot more that is going to come out. You wait and see. There’s a lot more here than meets the eye.’”
Of course there is, but what in the name of all that’s holy is it?
There have been three major developments in this fast-moving story since my last column on this subject: 1) The stunning revelation by Broadwell in a speech given at the University of Denver that there were detainees in the Benghazi “consulate” — really a CIA station — and that the attack may have been an attempt to free them, and 2) the rising visibility of the “shirtless guy,” the Tampa FBI agent whose impatience with the progress of the investigation led him to go to the House GOP leadership, an act that sealed Petraeus’s fate — and, perhaps, Gen. Allen’s. Which brings us to 3) the ensnaring of Gen. Allen in the Broadwell-Petraeus net, which adds much fuel to an already raging fire.
The Benghazi angle may help bring the “why” of this whole imbroglio into sharper focus. First, let’s set the context: Fox News and the Republicans had been making a full-bore effort to turn the Benghazi attack into a “scandal” that would bring down the Obama administration, an “October surprise” that would make short work of the anti-colonialist Kenyan. They spun a narrative that had the President of the United States — and his CIA Director — ordering a rescue team to “stand down” while Ambassador Chris Stevens, and three others, were murdered by Islamists. Broadwell’s “by the way there were detainees in there” remark, uttered almost offhand, was pushback, no doubt encouraged by Petraeus.
The “shirtless guy,” who earned this description because he reportedly sent shirtless photos of himself to Jill Kelley — the recipient of Broadwell’s “harassing” emails — enters the picture as the key catalyst who set the anti-Petraeus coup in motion. We are told he is a friend of someone with a connection to Rep. Reichert (R-WA), who brought the matter to Rep. Cantor’s office. But hold on, wait a minute here …
Since when does the FBI investigate “harassing” emails sent to an ordinary American citizen? Sure, Kelley had a friend in the FBI — the Shirtless Guy — but the question is why did the FBI’s cybercrimes section agree to launch a lengthy and costly investigation into emails that, by some accounts, weren’t that big a deal? The Shirtless Guy, who is said to have become so obsessed with the case that he was taken off it, must have developed some suspicion of who was behind the emails, and the nature of Broadwell’s connection to Petraeus. Whose instrument was he?
I gave my own view of the answer to this question in my last column, and the attempt to take down Gen. Allen seems to confirm my analysis. Who, you ask, would want Allen’s scalp? Well, consider the General’s comments after the latest blue-green attack in Afghanistan:
“ISAF commander General John Allen told US 60 Minutes program in an interview recorded before the latest incident, and scheduled to be aired today, that insider attacks were unacceptable.
“’I’m mad as hell about them, to be honest with you,’ he said. ‘We’re willing to sacrifice a lot for this campaign, but we’re not willing to be murdered for it.’
“Gen. Allen said that just as homemade bombs had become the signature weapon of the Iraq war, he believed that in Afghanistan, “the signature attack that we’re beginning to see is going to be the insider attack.”
Insider attacks make up the great majority of US casualties in Afghanistan, these days, and with the Obama administration about to undergo a general review of our troop levels in that country, Allen’s open hostility to the mission would not sit well with the more hawkish faction in the national security apparatus, i.e. the neocons and their fellow travelers. So, he had to go, too — and it’s a “nice” touch that they managed to get him in the course of the same investigation, without having to bother cooking up another scandal. Good work, boys!
One aspect of the Great Pentagon Purge that has gone almost completely unnoticed is this offhand little tidbit in a Washington Post story about the scandal,
“Prominent members of conservative, Washington-based defense think tanks were given permanent office space at [Petraeus’s] headquarters and access to military aircraft to tour the battlefield. They provided advice to field commanders that sometimes conflicted with orders the commanders were getting from their immediate bosses.
“Some of Petraeus’s staff officers said he and the American mission in Afghanistan benefited from the broader array of viewpoints, but others complained that the outsiders were a distraction, the price of his growing fame.”
So the neocons were right there looking over Petraeus’s shoulder, and his successor’s shoulder, giving “advice” that went against orders from the top, i.e. they were undermining the mission as conceived by the Pentagon, and no doubt actively subverting the planned withdrawal. Did Gen. Allen throw them out? That he’s been caught in the honey trap along with Petraeus should come as no surprise.
The military is quite a distinct entity from the War Party, and this should be obvious to anyone who has been alert to the internal debates in the national security bureaucracy over the course of the past decade or so. There was pushback from the CIA and the diplomatic community during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, with spooks anonymously debunking the “weapons of mass destruction” canard to the point where Dick Cheney had to personally go over to Langley and stand over them to make sure they toed the neocon line. There has been a similar rebellion against the idea of going to war with Iran, another neocon crusade. The military is tired of these endless wars: after all, they are the ones who have to fight them, and are inevitably blamed when failure becomes all too apparent (and the neocons run for cover).
There has to come a point when the military is thoroughly fed up with being the instrument of a ruthless and bloodthirsty cabal who think nothing of sacrificing US servicemen and servicewomen on the altar of their bloody ambitions. When that happens, from the War Party’s perspective, it’s time to get rid of them. While the means utilized may be rather complicated, it’s really just as simple as that.
I should emphasize that this is a working hypothesis: an attempt to make sense out of what seems utterly senseless — the immolation of the top tiers of the US military and intelligence establishment. We’ll know much more when the genesis of this investigation — a probe into a “cybercrime” allegedly committed against an unpaid “social liaison” at Tampa’s MacDill Air Force base — is revealed in more detail.
With every passing moment, however, as more facts comes out, what began as a suspicion is fast turning into a near certainty. Just look at who is now being pushed to succeed Petraeus at the CIA — yes, I’m talking about none other than Jane Harman, the same person who was overheard in the course of a wiretapped conversation telling a “suspected Israeli agent” she would intervene to get the charges against Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman reduced. Rosen and Weissman were caught red-handed stealing US secrets and funneling them to their Israeli handlers. In return, the Israeli agent promised AIPAC — the high-powered pro-Israel lobby — would put pressure on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to get Harman appointed head of the House intelligence committee.
The prosecution rests — for the moment.
Update: This story is moving really fast, and there have been a number of important developments in the few hours after I submitted it, but before it was posted. To begin with, Paula Broadwell’s house has been raided by the FBI: they searched every room in the house and carried out her computer and other items. This points in the direction of a national security investigation, not one focused on a charge of simple “cyber-stalking.” But of course we knew that with the first report of finding classified information on her computer.
In addition, more information has come out about the Shirtless Guy, the Tampa-based FBI agent who took Jill Kelley’s complaint to the Bureau. The New York Times, citing an anonymous FBI official, reports:
“[T]he agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his ‘worldview,’ as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.
“The official said the agent’s self-described ‘whistle-blowing’ was ‘a little embarrassing’ but had no effect on the investigation.”
But it had a huge effect on Petraeus, who at that point was still hoping to keep his affair with Broadwell a secret. However, the proverbial cat had already clawed its way out of the bag. On Oct. 31, when Cantor’s office placed a call to FBI Director John Mueller, and on Election Day the Justice Department informed John Clapper, director of National Intelligence. Clapper insisted Petraeus step down.
What’s interesting is that this was clearly ideologically motivated: no need to wonder about the Shirtless One’s “worldview.” Clearly he was striking a blow against what he considered the dire threat of Kenyan anti-colonialism — and that meant taking down Petraeus. Clearly he intended the revelation of the affair to take down the Obama administration, but Cantor held back. Why? We can’t know for sure, quite yet, but my view is that he wanted the head of Petraeus even more than he wanted Obama’s — and, at that point, perhaps he figured it wouldn’t have helped Romney in any event.
In any case, the supposed hero of the neocons, the author of the Iraqi “surge” which supposedly “won” that losing war, and the architect of a new counterinsurgency doctrine the failure of which has been portrayed as one long uninterrupted triumph — David Petraeus, who at one time was rumored to be the neocons’ favored presidential candidate, wound up on top of the rather large heap of bodies they’ve managed to pile up over the years. After he pulls the knife out of his back, and has time to reflect on the demise of a once gloriously successful career as an icon of American militarism, perhaps he’ll tell us the whole story in his memoirs. It should be quite a read.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
My appeal to get my Twitter followers up to 2,000 has succeeded — but let’s not stop there! I use Twitter as a kind of bulletin board, where I post much of the material I’m going to use in my column: it’s very convenient that way, and also a good way to spread the message of non-interventionism while engaging the Bad Guys cyber-face to cyber-face, so to speak. In short, it’s a lot of fun, so don’t miss out: you can follow me on Twitter here.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Up Against the FBI – May 23rd, 2013
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013





RickR30
November 13th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
The question of the moment is, who is this jill chick? Lots of folks have friends in law enforcement. Few can get any favors from them, let alone to launch an official investigation into irrelevant stuff. Was she also planted into the whole affair? To flirt with Davey and to get Paula to flip out? That way the planted Paula would self-implode? What's jill's true relationship with shirtless FBI guy? Since everyone is bedding everyone here, is that the reason why he was so enthusiastic about the investigation? Or are the pictures just meant to lead us to think that way?
That that cantor weasel held back on the info just goes to show that no matter which one of the empty suits got the majority of the votes, the necons would win, and the American people would lose.
Once obama's handlers pick the new team in charge of national "security" we'll know for sure how far the neocon connection goes. In a way I was hoping that Obama was holding them at bay or at least trying to for all these years. But if they get to tour the future greater israel courtesy of the US taxpayer and give orders to the almighty generals, I guess it was too much to hope for. During the dark bush years, the necons got to run the Pentagram, during the first Obama admin, they were embedded into the military. I hate to see what happens during his second term- necons running FBI, CIA, foreign policy, all national intelligence and security, etc. The red cow is born!
On the whole Bengazi circus, what was Stevens doing at the CIA consulate anyway? Who sent him there and why? Did somebody know that the rescue mission to get the detainees out was planned for that day? Where is the disconnect between what the WH knew and other folks knew? That would indeed be something if somehow the WH were telling the truth and they were indeed clueless and ignorant about the whole thing, a cluelessness brought about by certain operatives with interests other than addressing the immediate attack, but with a broader political agenda.
Ben_C
November 13th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
I personally nominate Wisam Al-Saleh here to replace either Petraeus or John Allen….
http://i.usatoday.net/news/gallery/2012/n120827sy…
He looks like he knows what he's doing and it will play well in the 'think tank' circles… Besides, what's the worst that could possibly happen?
Johnny in Wi.
November 13th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
You have a lot of bad actors involved in this mess. If anyone can figure it out it will be Justin. He is the first person I read 3 mornings a week. The Neocons seem to be deeply involved in this. All their house organs are attacking Petraeus. Just a little while a go he was their guy just like he was Paula Broadwell's.
Honey East
November 14th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Justin, Gawker's story "Did An Anonymous Wikipedia Editor…" and its commenters delve into an attempt in January of this year to out Broadwell and Patreus. The very day Broadwell had appeared on The Daily Show to promote her biography of Patreus, a Wikipedia editor put up a page about her. Within an hour an edit by parties unknown outed Broadwell and the General. Wikipedia quickly removed it declaring it "libel". Attempts to trace the IP address of the concluded it was part of a Cisco network. Cisco apparently handles all the military traffic coming from Afghanistan. You did say our fearless chickenhawk brigade had a detachment embedded in Afghanistan didn't you? (Some commenters trace the origin of the edit to Colorado. I have no idea which of these two surmises may be correct.)
Oswaldwasalefty
November 14th, 2012 at 12:13 am
I'm reminded of a scene early in the movie "Three Kings" where George Clooney's character, Major Archie Gates, is trading sex for story quotes with a young journalist played by Judy Greer. When Nora Dunn's Adriana Cruz character discovers how the younger reporter has been going about her job she berates her, yelling at her that "I have my clothes on!". Men in positions of authority trading sex for favors with younger females is hardly a "scandal".
So it is going to be a while until we find out what this all about. Justin's guess is about as good any right. Yes, we have a civilian run government that the military is subordinate to, and obviously they don't always get along with their civilian commanders.
In his latest column Glen Greenwald notes the sweet justice of seeing the nation's top spook and others involved in the considerable national surveillance apparatus having their private lives publicly outed:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/…
Of course, he doesn't find much inspiration from the mainstream media reporting on the "scandal":
"…(this unintentionally amusing New York Times headline from this morning – "Concern Grows Over Top Military Officers' Ethics" – illustrates that point: with all the crimes committed by the US military over the last decade and long before, it's only adultery that causes "concern" over their "ethics")…."
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RParker
November 14th, 2012 at 1:35 am
I'm surprised the neocons haven't gone after Gen. Dempsey yet for refusing to attack Iran–but give them time. It just goes to show you that faithfully fighting ZOG's wars doesn't guarantee any of them a safe position. All of these military "leaders" are sell-outs, have zero honor (just like the civilian politicians) and all deserve their fate for serving an enemy alien entity.
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El Tonno
November 14th, 2012 at 3:29 am
Hmmm… isn't this overanalyzing? Sounds like a tenuous plot device. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by serial fuckups etc.
Still, Jane Harman for CIA? What the fracking frack?
As Glenn Grennwald writes at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/…
"It is usually the case that abuses of state power become a source for concern and opposition only when they begin to subsume the elites who are responsible for those abuses. Recall how former Democratic Rep. Jane Harman – one of the most outspoken defenders of the illegal Bush National Security Agency (NSA) warrantless eavesdropping program – suddenly began sounding like an irate, life-long ACLU privacy activist when it was revealed that the NSA had eavesdropped on her private communications with a suspected Israeli agent over alleged attempts to intervene on behalf of AIPAC officials accused of espionage. Overnight, one of the Surveillance State's chief assets, the former ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, transformed into a vocal privacy proponent because now it was her activities, rather than those of powerless citizens, which were invaded."
notinmyname
November 14th, 2012 at 4:17 am
Don't forget also that earlier this year Petraeus remarked that Israel was becoming a declining assest for the US in the Middle East. I can't imagine that went down well in the rogue state or among its fifth column of Israel firsters. The US will soon be the largest Jewish state in the wolrd.
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Joe
November 14th, 2012 at 5:48 am
The generals are hypocrites. You can't have two sets of rules – one for the senior officers and one for the enlisted and junior officers. At the very minimum, Gen. Allen should be charged with dereliction of duty for the enormous mountain of email he generated every day instead of focusing on doing what needs to be done – that is – get the boys home from Afghanistan ASAP.
richard vajs
November 14th, 2012 at 5:49 am
What is going on? Corruption, that is what is going on. America is deeply into corruption. Corruption that comes about when it is possible for some to live much better than the masses by use of influence, bribes, lying etc. Why in America does some multi-millionaire scumbag get to to pay only 14% income tax when his secretary has to pay a much higher rate; why should the professional military (whose primary job is to kill others) need to socially hobnob with the rich socialites; why should this country aid and abet a nasty little apartheid country that constantly threatens to start a nuclear conflagration? These and many similiar questions go unanswered today. And until they are answered (and corrected), America will continue to be more and more corrupt until it becomes just a big bag of pus.
lester
November 14th, 2012 at 6:41 am
"It should be quite a read." The Fog of War 2
Phil Giraldi
November 14th, 2012 at 6:56 am
There are a number of disconnects in trying to construct a plausible narrative – why would Cantor torpedo a DCI who was, by all accounts, a neocon favorite and a panderer vis-a-vis all things Israeli (apart from one comment in a prepared statement that he later disowned). Harman will never get approved as DCI. Broadwell had a top level clearance and had considerable access to classified material – so she took some hom with her, not exactly unusual and her comments in Denver might have been derived from something on FOX news, though she did stir Petraeus into the mix to demonstrate that she is an insider. The FBI does have a mandate to investigate cybercrimes and having a friend on the inside, and being other wise influential, Kelley could well have been able to get them to investigate. The shirtless guy was probably infatuated with her, as was Broadwell with General P. A whole lot of strange stuff floating around in the case and I continue to have many more questions than answers. As I have noted over at TAC, I cannot believe that the Attorney General did not know about this weeks before the election? Why didn't he tell Obama? Or did he?
omop
November 14th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Mr. R. The quoted statements below are evident reflections of what the "truth" in present America IS.
" The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." Felix Frankfurter, U. S. Supreme Court Justice.
“The role of the President of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the people of Israel. ” ~Anne Lewis, Senior Advisor to Hillary Clinton and sister of ex – Rep. Barney Frank
JohnDowser
November 14th, 2012 at 6:57 am
In my view you can go with this story two ways for it to keep making sense (as in "cui bono").
1. A complicated way for some old-school CIA clique to get back at DNI & Pentagon who are slowly taking over control of global intelligence and marginalizing thereby the CIA network as it used to be. By exposing the childish and incompetent nature of the military leadership they are planting the idea that his environment might not be suitable for sensitive counter-intelligence operations or at least put the discussion back on the table (apart from the personal disgust some agents must feel).
2. A crazy misunderstanding between Paula & Jill: Paula interpreted Jill's flirtations as a direct attempt to get to her boyfriend and Jill misinterpreted the anonymous threats (not mentioning anyone by name as it seems) as something local which she asked her FBI-contact to look into, never imagining it would lead back to the military! So we have strong emotions like jealousy and fear, mixed with an overzealous FBI friend combined with the political push of a Cantor. Enough to explain a lot.
Phil Giraldi
November 14th, 2012 at 7:50 am
John -Your first point is on the money, in my opinion. Petraeus was hated by many at CIA, most particularly the old school spies who were losing dominance because of Petraeus' emphasis on military style operations. They would have almost certainly known about the affair and could have easily been making things happen.
Justni Raimondo
November 14th, 2012 at 9:27 am
I don't know how you know Harman will "never get approved." The Democratic majority in the Senate will certainly vote for her, and she'll get a number of Republicans if she is nominated. Aside from that, she's a woman — surely a plus in this age of political correctness. The Shirtless Guy was motivated by ideology, not lust: the Times reporting makes that clear enough. You have a point when it come to Broadwell's security clearance — except that the whole rationale for the FBI search of her home, and the initial investigation, was based on security concerns. So apparently "top security clearance" doesn't mean what we think it means.
MvGuy
November 14th, 2012 at 9:46 am
This story too fast moving for me to keep up these last few days….. Many thanks to Mr Raimondo, Giraldi, RickR30, El Tonno, Oswaldwasalefty, RParker, omop, JohnDowser, et al…….. To bad we couldn't divide the work and draw straws to take one portion or player and find all possible info.. Like 911, when the Gov. seemed to have no curiosity or tenacity… But this one has SEX…….. the universal sell….. A story with tits…..
MvGuy
November 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Gee, If "The role of the President of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the people of Israel."——– Than What is the "role" of the American Citizens and military…???? Just pay, pay…pay and die stupid…???
WashingtonDC Goddamn
November 14th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Obama the "victim" of neocons meme? Laugh, laugh, laugh!
Generalissimo X
November 14th, 2012 at 10:21 am
well maybe there's more than meets the eye here, maybe not. frankly i'm totally confused as to not only the actual events, but what major relevance this all has? to me, it just seems like the elites have created some stupid soap opera that the rest of us dupes are supposed to lap up like it's a big story. seems more like a psy op media BS than any thing actually substantial. if it is substantial, we plebes will never be told the actual truth of anything.
and really, why was there never any analysis (or over analysis) or endless speculation about 9-11 in the media? how about the downing street memo? we're worried about all these sordid stupid relationships of immoral losers but not the real cause of their war crimes or actually punishing them for mass murder.
the other thing i find completely laughable is outrage that petraeus was "spied on" by the fbi. heaven forfend! why do you mean to tell me that the elites get their emails picked up by the nsa and spied on like the rest of us? wow. i'm soooooo angry and shocked. didn't see that coming. i like everyone else thought that was just for terrorists. hahaha..
Warren Bonesteel
November 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
A palace coup against the adminstration? Quite possibly. I'm not going to argue against it.
otoh, you can also see that Obama has been replacing numerous staff level officers with those of a more…liberally pure… ideological bent. This has been going on for some time, now. It's not just related to Benghazi, however indirectly. Had Bush done something similar, replacing all of the staff level officers in the military with ideologically pure neo-cons…the left would be screaming bloody murder. (Currently the right is only beginning to ascertain what is happening, but when they do, they'll be screaming bloody murder.)
We do live in interesting times.
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luaplex
November 14th, 2012 at 10:46 am
You wanna be a peace writer, and you don't even know the timetable for peace? Come on, Justin. You're out. You're just out.
luaplex
November 14th, 2012 at 10:46 am
I love you man, but you need to listen up instead of always talking.
Benjacomin Bozart
November 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
We are already their largest client state. Romney probably figured he was the next Prez because Tel Aviv ordered it.
Benjacomin Bozart
November 14th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Call of Booty 2
San Fernando Curt
November 14th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Imagining what American troops must endure in Afghanistan is in itself disquieting. They must patrol landscape they know is populated only by people who hate their guts. They are, after all, on Afghans' native soil and these natives want only for them to leave or die. No wonder an occasional serviceman goes nuts and goes on a killing spree. This is psychological toxin identical to that troops faced in Iraq and Vietnam. Constant strain and fear finally explodes in some.
Despite all the hooplah about "troop withdrawal" there are still 50,000 heavily armed municipal planning consultants in Iraq. The same fate awaits Afghanistan when "withdrawal" occurs there. We don't intend to leave, rather install seedbeds of combat invasion forces should the need arise. Because these countries bookend and contain Iran, we must stay there for time immemorial. Our Israel Firsters demand it.
Maybe the military has reached a point where it cannot maintain the charade any longer. We're not fighting a war on terror; we're fighting a cold war against Iran. Regardless whether he walked it back, Petraeus Congressional testimony calling Israel a "liability" certainly indicates some antipathy toward our brave li'l ally in the Levant. For fanatics, any is all, and maybe the trapdoor was sprung beneath him for not being properly servile.
ldubinsky
November 14th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
quite an amusing littl e group of lunatics here.
LeCar
November 14th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
This has obviously always been about breaches of security at the highest levels of the government.
From the outside, to me its plain that the FBI did the following. They got the complaint from Ms. Kelley through 'the shirtless guy". But, then they quickly looked and saw that there was potentially much more there than harassing emails from a crazy mistress. The FBI immediately shut shirtless guy out of the investigation.
Especially when they found that the head of the CIA was sharing clandestine communications with someone. And most likely from work. They probably didn't know the content at that point. But it raises huge red flags that had to be investigated. If it had just been sexy talk, it probably would never have gone anywhere. Or maybe a quiet conversation with Gen. Betrayus that this had to stop. But, obviously, as it unfolded, they've found more and more evidence of security breaches. I'm guessing that Gen. Betrayus was using that gmail account not only for sexy talk but also for talking with a 'friend' who had military and intel experience about his day -to – day trevails as CIA directors and the ops that were going on. Even in Paula Poundwell wasn't a spy herself, I'm guessing there was some very sensitive stuff in very unsecure channels like gmail and dropbox accounts.
LeCar
November 14th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
The bit about a 'palace coup' seems very far-fetched. After all, even if Gen. Betrayus is replaced, Obama can always appoint his own next choice for the job and get it approved through the Dem majority in the Senate. There's no real 'win' here to be had for the neocons.
Outsider
November 14th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Excellent comment, SF Curt – the best I have read on the subject. I've read in many places that our military is becoming sick unto death of these endless conflicts. They are right in the middle of our American Heart of Darkness.
RickR30
November 14th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
That would be wonderful if the CIA was behind this somehow. Putting king davy in charge of the CIA was an idiotic decision, one that had to be neocon ispired, and the results are evident, not just endangering secrets but giving the CIA the role of murdering people the world over via drones- what does any of that have to do with intelligence. Necons have long had a beef with the US intelligence community and they're just dying to have full control over it.
Sean
November 14th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Justin, you're only concern is raising money. Your conclusions can no longer be trusted. Four other high ranking officers have been sacked in the last few weeks: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/a… http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/has_g… http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11… http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/navy…
Putin has been cleaning house as well: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/putin-fi…
Are the hawks on both sides being put out to pasture? It sure looks like it. I think WW3 has been called off.
Justin, you'll have to go out and find a job!
San Fernando Curt
November 14th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Oddly, we're all laughing at you.
gem
November 14th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
You're a one trick wonder….You can't get beyond what you think you know. I never discount someones best intentions.
Bianca
November 14th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Well, the neocon angle is pretty obvious, isn't it?
Jill is a special case. Born in Lebanon, and maintaning relationships with foreign governments, she is an unpaid social liaison to the most sensitive nerve of US military command in Tampa. She spends on incredibly expensive parties. With those parties, she builds connections, and learns a lot about the people — probably a lot about everybody.
Having learned of Paula's affair she now has two generals on the hook. Head of CIA, and the man who was to become Supreme Commander of NATO forces. BEFORE elections, she provokes Paula somehow. With angry e-mails in her pocket, Jille is ready for move. SHE IS NOT NAIVE. So,allow me that stupidity is not present here. By engaging her another "friend", an FBI agent, she is ready to push the button. WHICHEVER WAY IT TURNED OUT, GOOD FOR NEOCONS. She KNEW that she is going to be ensnarled — in chess the sacrifice of the Queen. But nobody will be able to make a link to "that" Middle Eastern country that wanted Obama to lose.
I do not think I am very far off.
CanuckBC
November 14th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Justin, it could be as you wrote, but it could be also quite simple story of two well paid broads crazy about four stars and military men. Military men on other hand are just typical examples of corrupted America. You know , Lord Acton said his famous "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Democracy is not working even if it is the best men invented so far. The shit rises up – the wrong men have the most ambitions and smarts to get higher and higher. We had seen it live in this year's presidential election in US.
I would not consider statement of Paula's father to be worth of mention in a political dispute. He is the poor guy who is known now and for long time to go as a father of "American Broad". Of course he is trying to deflect some blame from his daughter so she might look more like Mata Hari than Madame Bovary.
On the other hand we must give these chicks some credit for totally stupefying two big shits of US Army and give the feeling that what they love about them is their manhood and homor and character and not their uniforms and stars. This only shows how corrupted these men have become in this corrupted system. Their egos grown bigger than their brains and that brought the sad end for them.
That the system is corrupted shows the fact that hagiography by Paula Broadwell on Petraeus made it high and had become New York Times Bestseller.
On the other hand Petraeus's famous March 2010 statement "Israel, a liability to the US" did not sit well with Zionists, since they understood that Petraeus sees US interests as different from Israel's interests and deems them to be superior. That is treason in Zionists book and it might started a character assassination of Petraeus. However it was he who slept with American Broad Paula and he can blame only himself.
abul
November 14th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Link please to the comment of Anne Lewis
RParker
November 15th, 2012 at 1:09 am
Pretty much.
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maidhc
November 15th, 2012 at 4:54 am
The Ann Lewis quote can be found on page 2 of a Dana Milbank column in the Washington Post entitled "The Audacity of Chutzpah." Milbank was reporting on a public meeting held by a group of Jewish leaders to discuss the 2008 presidential election. Here's the relevant passage:
Next question to [former ambassador to Israel Daniel] Kurtzer: Obama's assertion that he needn't have a "Likud view" — that of Israel's right-wing party — to be pro-Israel. Kurtzer explained that Obama wanted to see a "plurality of views." Silence in the room.
To that, Lewis retorted: "The role of the president of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the people of Israel. It is not up to us to pick and choose from among the political parties." The audience members applauded.
Strider55
November 15th, 2012 at 6:00 am
It's a cinch you were never in the military (or visited MilitaryCorruption.com). It is a rigidly hierarchical place, and senior officers have always been "a breed apart." Generals and admirals are virtually exempt from the UCMJ. On the rare occasions when they do get slapped down, it's the culmination of a long history of wrongdoing. Their lackeys can no longer cover up or haul away all the crap because the flies have gotten too thick. Even then, their "punishment" is usually a wrist slap such as retirement at a reduced rank.
Strider55
November 15th, 2012 at 8:18 am
As always, it's a question of whose ox is gored. Human nature is what it is. Trying to change it is like trying to turn a velociraptor into a herbivore.
liberranter
November 15th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Perfectly said. This fact alone should, in any society grounded in reason, be more than sufficient evidence to completely strip the U.S. military of its unearned glorification. Of course we're all aware of what our society is actually grounded in…
liberranter
November 15th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I have no doubt that a growing number of the military's rank-and-file, especially those who are on their fourth, fifth, or sixth back-to-back deployment to the combat zone, are now reaching the point of "F*** this Sh**! ENOUGH!" I'm not sure that this is the brass's opinion, though.
Kratoklastes
November 15th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Dude, your Megaphony hasbara chums aren't clicking your rep up like they promised, huh? That's gotta suck.
I have never seen anybody at -57 rep on ID – and certainly not someone who is as Tribal as you are.
abul
November 15th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Thanks a lot. I wil add to my collection of sentences that when mentioned or tweeted invariably will bring out the charges of blood-libel or antisemitism or both.
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November 15th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
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Strider55
November 16th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Here's the article itself. It took all of one minute of searching using the keywords "milbank audacity chutzpah". I'm surprised the WaPo hasn't sent the piece down the memory hole. Just in case they do later, I've saved it as a PDF.
Victor
November 16th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Let's hope that Jane Harman, who appears to be a spy and a liar, does not get the top CIA job, or any job anywhere for that matter.
This article has an interesting take on Ms. Harman:
The Marriage from Hell: Jane Harman and the Woodrow Wilson Center: http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/01/the-marriage-fr…
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ldubinsky
November 18th, 2012 at 7:25 am
oddly would be your usual
ldubinsky
November 18th, 2012 at 7:27 am
were you not merely a gibbon, you would ascertain that those negative numbers were put there by those you stupidly assume to be my chums, Krakhead.
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