It’s All About Israel
Part II of “Roots of the Iranian ‘Crisis’”
Editorial note: This is the second part of a three-part article. Part I is here. Part III will appear on Friday.
It was and is a matter of high principle for the neoconservatives that the US unconditionally support Israel in its struggle against the Arab world. Disputing the neocons’ claim to the mantle of Wilsonianism, Michael Lind described this odd nexus of radical universalism and ethno-nationalism as “Trotsky’s theory of the permanent revolution mingled with the far-right Likud strain of Zionism,” adding: “Genuine American Wilsonians believe in self-determination for people such as the Palestinians.”
Saddam Hussein, you’ll recall, had been offering bounties for suicide bombers, at least according to the propaganda we heard, and — alongside the contention that he was also developing nuclear weapons — this was the pitch the neocons, and the Israel lobby, gave in public to justify the invasion. Yet there was another layer of rationalization which went largely undetected in America, and the argument was contained in a paper prepared for then Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in 1996, under the auspices of the Israeli Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, which had organized a “Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000.” The paper was shaped by a series of seminars in which several figures who would figure prominently in the administration of George W. Bush participated, including Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser. Entitled “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” the proposal proffered by these future American policymakers urged Netanyahu to undertake a long-term project to break Israel out of its geographic and demographic boundaries and engage in a campaign of “regime change” in the Middle East. To the incoming Prime Minister, who had upended the long rule of the Israeli Labor Party, they gave the following advice: ditch the peace process, and make a “clean break” with the policy of appeasing both the Palestinians and the United States. Stand up to Uncle Sam, insist on mutuality, build up support for Israeli objectives in the US Congress, and go on the offensive against the enemies of the Jewish state:
“Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.”
The entire regime change operation we are seeing unfold in the Middle East is a veritable laundry list of neoconservative goals as outlined in the “Clean Break” document, as well as in the agenda of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), Bill Kristol’s vehicle for injecting a strong dose of interventionism into the incoming Bush administration. Aside from calling for regime change in practically every Middle Eastern state — all this prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks — PNAC’s proposal for tripling the military budget was prefaced by a yearning for “a new Pearl Harbor,” which would wake the American people up to the imperative of American military supremacy at any cost.
The neocons got their Pearl Harbor on September 11, 2001, and they were more than ready to take full advantage of the opportunity to implement their agenda of permanent war. While the administration made a half-hearted attempt to capture Osama bin Laden they failed to corner him in Afghanistan, and the top leadership slipped through the American dragnet with the help of its Taliban allies. This, however, didn’t really concern the neocons all that much: Paul Wolfowitz and others were arguing inside the administration that the real enemy was in Baghdad. After the preliminaries in Afghanistan, they turned their sights on the real object of their war-lust: Iraq.
The “Clean Break” scenario envisioned the overthrow of Iraq’s Ba’athist regime as a prerequisite for Israel’s success, and the Israel lobby, in concert with the neoconservatives, played a key role in dragging us into that disastrous war of aggression. Yet that was just the beginning of the road they wanted to take us on, and we are halfway down it already. As Ariel Sharon told a delegation of American congressmen in 2003, after Iraq must come Iran, Libya, and Syria:
“These are irresponsible states, which must be disarmed of weapons mass destruction, and a successful American move in Iraq as a model will make that easier to achieve," said the Prime Minister to his guests, rather like a commander issuing orders to his foot-soldiers. While noting that Israel was not itself at war with Iraq, he went on to say that “the American action is of vital importance.”
Of course it was, but as far as the Israelis and their American amen corner were concerned, it was to be just the beginning.
The Israelization of American foreign policy under George W. Bush was a policy consciously promoted by the neoconservatives from their well-situated perch at the heights of the national security apparatus. The progenitors of the “Clean Break” scenario saw the Israeli state facing a terminal crisis: the Jewish state, in their view, was suffering from an “exhaustion” that could lead to extinction. The idea was to break with the idea of “containment” and go for a policy of preemption. As the “Clean Break” document put it:
“Notable Arab intellectuals have written extensively on their perception of Israel’s floundering and loss of national identity. This perception has invited attack, blocked Israel from achieving true peace, and offered hope for those who would destroy Israel. The previous strategy, therefore, was leading the Middle East toward another Arab-Israeli war. Israel’s new agenda can signal a clean break by abandoning a policy which assumed exhaustion and allowed strategic retreat by reestablishing the principle of preemption, rather than retaliation alone and by ceasing to absorb blows to the nation without response.”
This doctrine of preemption came to be known as the Bush Doctrine, but it really ought to be called the Sharon-Bush Doctrine, given its true origins. When George W. Bush declared that the United States has the “right,” and even the obligation, to attack any nation on earth, on the grounds that the target poses a potential threat to US interests, he was merely echoing what had by that time already become official Israeli policy. This policy was given free rein in a whole series of wars, aside from the permanent state of war prevailing in the occupied territories of Palestine: two invasions of Lebanon, and, today, terrorist attacks inside Iran carried out by Israeli intelligence agencies in cooperation with their proxies, such as the Mujahideen Khalq. The ultimate example of preemption would be an attack on Iran — and here we see a real conflict developing between the Obama administration and Netanyahu’s government.
The Israeli position on Iran is an application of the Bush Doctrine taken to its logical extreme. While the American intelligence community is clear that the Iranians abandoned their embryonic nuclear weapons program in 2003, and all subsequent “evidence” of a viable Iranian nuke in the making has turned out to be either forgeries or pre-2003 materials, Netanyahu gets around this by upping the ante. The danger, he says, is that the Iranians will achieve the capacity to put together a nuclear weapon on very short notice. The Romney campaign, taking its cues from Tel Aviv, has echoed this escalation of Israeli demands, with the formulation that they don’t want Tehran “one turn of the screwdriver away” from acquiring nuclear weapons.
This is a technical impossibility, a crude bit of war propaganda that has no basis in reality: but then again, that’s what war propaganda usually is — blind assertions meant to evoke an emotional response rather than one based on reason, or, in this case, on science. As the Wilson Center study on the costs and benefits of an attack on Iran put it, it would take at least two years or more for Iran to develop a deliverable nuclear warhead — and the effort would be detected long before that.
In short, the ticking time bomb scenario described by Netanyahu and his American co-thinkers is pure nonsense: in no sense could the Iranians ever be “one turn of the screwdriver away” from nuking Israel. Even given the doctrine of preemption, in light of these facts the justification for war simply does not exist. Netanyahu and his defense minister claim Israel faces an “existential” crisis, nothing less than the prospect of a second Holocaust. Yet there are no facts to back up this assertion: it is simply an emotional appeal. Something else is at work here other than fear of a genuine threat, and it is quite simply politics — that is, the internal politics of Israel, and also of the United States.
Objectively, there is no threat to Israel, or to the West, emanating from Iran: armed with nuclear weapons, and so far advanced militarily over its neighbors that the distance between them can only be measured in light years, Israel has no real reason to fear an attack that is not forthcoming in any event. The whole thing is manufactured by politicians who have but one goal in mind: to stay in power.
Meir Dagan, former head of the Mossad, says the idea of a preemptive attack on Iran is “the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard,” and inside Israel support for Netanyahu’s gambit is far from solid. Shimon Peres, one of the last of the old-style (i.e. rational) Israeli leaders, recently went on television to expressly dissent from Netanyahu’s apocalyptic rhetoric and to give support to President Obama as a reliable ally.
What’s interesting is that the rhetoric coming from Netanyahu and his defense minister, Ehud Barak, has a distinctly anti-American strain. As Barak put it, in arguing for a unilateral Israeli strike on Iran:
“Ronald Reagan did not want to see a nuclear Pakistan, but Pakistan did go nuclear. Bill Clinton did not want to see a nuclear North Korea, but North Korea went nuclear.”
“If Israel forgoes the chance to act and it becomes clear that it no longer has the power to act, the likelihood of an American action will decrease… We cannot wait to discover one morning that we relied on the Americans but were fooled because the Americans didn’t act in the end…. Israel will do what it has to do.”
Barak’s message is all too clear: the Americans are mercurial, and weak-willed — they can’t be counted on, and besides we have to do what we have to do. This is the spirit and letter of the “Clean Break” document, which decried US “intervention” in Israel’s internal affairs, and it is the language of the extreme nationalists, such as Avigdor Lieberman, the foreign minister, who once advocated bombing the Aswan dam and is a former bouncer in a bar. His extremist right-wing party advocates a “Greater Israel,” and is supported by the “settler” movement — violent fanatics who want to create a Greater Israel based on their interpretation of the Bible.
In the context of growing extremism infecting the Israeli body politic, a politician like Netanyahu is considered a centrist. To his right are even more anti-American ultra-nationalists, and this movement is growing. In order to accommodate it, and contain it within the confines of his own party, Netanyahu has had to move in an even more extreme direction, even going so far as to threaten that Israel will strike Iran on its own, without US support.
This, of course, is a policy of de facto blackmail, since any war between Israel and Iran will almost inevitably see the Americans dragged in. This has been the whole Israeli strategy, so far — except that it hasn’t worked. The President has steadfastly refused to give in, at least up until this point. He has even gone so far as to inform the Iranians in advance that any such attack by Israeli forces will not have the sanction or support of the US — and, in such an event, to please refrain from attacking American targets in Iraq and the Persian Gulf.
In view of the lack of American support for war, both in Washington and among the American electorate, the persistence of the debate within Israel over whether they should attack all on their own is disturbing. Such a scenario could only be disastrous for the region, and for Israel in particular, as Gen. Dempsey, head of the US joint chiefs of staff, has recently made plain. The Israeli defense and intelligence establishment has been saying the same thing, and still Netanyahu and Barak continue to talk about it as if it were a real option.
While Netanyahu is bound to be deterred by the cold reception this idea has received in Washington, in this context we have to ask ourselves a sobering question: will Avigdor Lieberman’s finger some day be on Israel’s nuclear trigger? This is a question the Iranians, and others in the region, have no doubt asked themselves. That it is even a possibility is profoundly unsettling — and this, not the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran, is the source of the real danger looming over the Middle East.
Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the region is the real issue at hand, and it is one the Israelis have not had to face. It is known the Israelis possess at least two-hundred warheads. Their policy is one of “nuclear ambiguity,” neither confirming nor denying the existence of their deadly arsenal. Unlike Iran, they have refused to sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT), and inspections of their nuclear facilities are therefore out of the question.
Iran, on the other hand, regularly submits to a tight schedule of inspections from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which would soon discover any weaponization procedures in progress. Israel’s contemptuous attitude toward the international community is given a free pass by the US and its allies, while the Iranians are subjected to crippling sanctions and an international campaign of vilification on the mere suspicion that they might one day have the capacity to develop nuclear weapons. To call this a double standard is to understate the case.
The destabilizing effects of Israel’s nuclear monopoly are a major cause of regional tensions — and the entire basis for assuming Iran has nuclear ambitions above and beyond its stated intention of harnessing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. One of the arguments against containing Iran, as opposed to taking the military option, is that the acquisition of a nuclear arsenal by Tehran will spark a dangerous arms race throughout the region. Yet this is disproved by the existence of Israel’s own arsenal, which has sparked no such race — even though the Jewish state’s Muslim neighbors have ample reason to believe the Israelis could conceivably launch a first strike on them. This, after all, is the essence of the doctrine of preemption, which the Israelis have embraced.
While there is zero evidence the Iranians have restarted their nuclear weapons program, could one blame them if they did? How else could they possibly hope to deter an Israeli first strike? In a 2008 op-ed piece in the New York Times, the noted Israeli historian Benny Morris wrote:
“Iran’s leaders would do well to rethink their gamble and suspend their nuclear program. Bar this, the best they could hope for is that Israel’s conventional air assault will destroy their nuclear facilities. To be sure, this would mean thousands of Iranian casualties and international humiliation. But the alternative is an Iran turned into a nuclear wasteland.”
An Israeli nuclear strike at Iran is not inconceivable: indeed, it is all too conceivable. So who are the real aggressors in the Middle East?
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
I regret to say that I’ve had to cancel my Vassar talk, which was scheduled for Wednesday, October 10 — I’ve apparently caught walking pneumonia! I was going to go anyway, but my doctor advised me against it. So I’m staying home, in bed, and the talk I didn’t get to deliver is being serialized this week in three parts. Part I is here: Part II is above, and the third part will appear on Friday.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Edward Snowden vs. the Sovietization of America – June 18th, 2013
- A Note to My Readers – June 16th, 2013
- Datagate and the Death of American Liberalism – June 13th, 2013
- Smear Brigade Goes After Snowden – June 11th, 2013
- Edward Snowden, American Hero – June 9th, 2013





mickperry
October 9th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Justin, a very incisive account, but one which ignores the fact that in February of 2001, the Afghan Prime Minister was telling anyone who cared to listen that the US was going to attack his nation in October of that year, seven months before the pretext even existed.
His explanation was that US geopolitical ambitions required that Afghanistan should fall under it's control: a proposed pipeline and an enhanced potential to attack China being the two driving forces of this policy.
It is difficult to see how this could have been a plan hatched to further Israel's interests.
The attack on Iraq and it's ultimate destruction however represented a confluence of two nation's agendas with a common interest, rather than it being 'all about Israel'.
Iraq recall, was the artificial creation of two UK Foreign Office officials in 1916, tasked with creating a state that would include the oil fields of Basra and Kirkuk.
Iran meanwhile is where the interests of Israel and the US diverge, a fact that appears to be registering with increasing numbers of US and Israeli policy makers.
This realisation will continue to grow regardless of however much Romney insists that there must be no daylight between Israel and the US.
In answer to the final question, my own view is that the US is the aggressor nation which has bought wrack and ruin to much of the Middle East, aided and abetted of course by its junior partners, Israel included.
Iowa Scribe
October 9th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Get well soon. You're indespensable. ;-)
james
October 10th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Salamat (peace in the plural) Justin, get well soon.
Any thinking adult has to come to the only logical conclusion from what has transpired during the last couple of decades; the world will be a safer and better place without the shi*ty little state. Regime change there will go a long way.
tadzio
October 10th, 2012 at 2:27 am
'Avigdor Lieberman, the foreign minister, who once advocated bombing the Aswan dam and is a former bouncer in a bar." This image is too positive. He is a self confessed convicted child molester. He beat a 12 year old Jewsih boy so badly that the child had to be hospitalized. He paid damages. He should have been jailed. This brute does not belong in the public life of any self respecting nation. But then he lives in Israel.
The State Department may feel the necessity to allow him entry to the United States due to his position and diplomatic protocols. But he should not be allowed within 200 hundred feet of a minor. He should be expelled if he violates such a reasonable restriction given his criminal record.
The bar bouncer reference far from being a putdown is a whitewash.
Augustbrhm
October 10th, 2012 at 2:59 am
But the world knows this the zionist has been the cause of almost all of the conflicts thus far america is in more trouble with them who controls the levers of power.
occupy911truth
October 10th, 2012 at 3:04 am
and…. 9/11 was a FALSE FLAG, by the USG with israeli players, and some ISI and saudi bit parts. if you do not get the fact that 9/11 was a false flag, with controlled demo of 3 skyscrapers in NYC [see http://www.AE911Truth.org, and a verifiable intel op, up to and including USG weaponized anthrax…. you aren't up the intellectual challenge this world brings. and it is "OK" if you know this, but do not profess it publicly… we all have aspirations and contraints. but YOU ALL better know this…. FALSE FLAG. ~singed, an engineer who has reviewed 9/11 for about 2 years
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geo1671
October 10th, 2012 at 4:38 am
Just'in–correction not 911 terrorist attacks but 911 terrorist bombings
nomange
October 10th, 2012 at 4:40 am
Fine article. One wonders what control, if any, the U.S. has over Israel's use of its nuclear arsenal.
Would the U.S. have any real power to stop Netanyahu from using nuclear weapons if he were to give the order to use them? If not, what should be the next step of the U.S. to protect and pursue its national interests? This is a question the Administration should be grappling with, whether or not Congress has been bought off and/or is intimidated, and is therefore in a strait jacket on it.
musings
October 10th, 2012 at 5:17 am
There definitely is a confluence to all the Mideast adventures. What is the phrase they are always using – "no light between Israel in the US" – although it's exaggerated. Romney is a chameleon who will go along with neocons if their influence in Congress and in his cabinet (who's presenting him with his cabinet members? what's moving beneath the carpet these days?) is sufficient, but Obama has also exercised some of the American power agendas in the Mideast. The anxiety about the rise of China (what did they expect after the initial overtures – it's like the opening of Japan in the prior century) motivates much of what is done by this current White House.
Smithboy
October 10th, 2012 at 5:17 am
My fantasy, with all of the information and eyewitnesses to the con that has caused so much misery for the American public, Iraqis and for all of the so-called "coalition of the willing", is that a class action lawsuit be brought against the US, Israel and British government, since they were the main instigators, on behalf of those families who lost their loved ones and for the soldiers who are permanently disabled?
The suit could possibly include FOX NEWS, citing Murdoch's statement that,"If the US decided to go to war with Iraq…. FOX NEWS will help promote the war." That makes FOX an accomplice in my opinion.Clearly the lack of rebuttal allowed by all of the networks and print news, much like the antiwar sentiments being stifled today, concerning the bombing of Iran, is a case of fraud at it's highest level.
Vincent Bugliosi, the attorney who prosecuted the Manson family, authored a book that suggest there is ample criminal evidence to convict GW, Dick Cheney and Blair on charges of treason and crimes against humanity. It's an interesting read.
In that this could be a several trillion dollar lawsuit there should be law firms, not unlike those who made billions off of the tobacco settlement, who would be interested in such an endeavor. A lawsuit of this kind could expose new revelations about the crookedness and deceit unleashed on the world by these wicked bloodthirsty neocons.
richard vajs
October 10th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Israeli expansion is ridiculous – it is just pumping more and more air into a balloon until it pops. Israel's loyal population is limited because it is severely racist – the conquered will never be accepted as a part of Israel. The Roman Empire got big and stayed big because the Roman system spread justice throughout its realm and many of the conquered became fully fledged partners in the Empire. With Israel, all of the conquered are just so much bother to the regime. Right now, Israel wants southern Lebanon, but only for its water resources. The intended beneficiaries are only the Jewish citizens of Israel proper, the Israelis would just as soon slaughter the Lebanese living there, where the water is, This rapacious thinking culminates in total disaster not in a glorious expansion.
litvac120
October 10th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Raymondo's article: waste of paper and ink, delusional leftist propaganda. Ya, Ya, Ya.
The Jews did it all. Poisoned the wells during the Plague in Europe in 14th century,
were responsible for German defeat in World War One. Nothing changes for the likes
of Raymondo and for the people writting these disgusting posts. And they wonder why Israel needs
Nuclear Weapons? I say it does not have enough of them. The more the better.
litvac120
Guest
October 10th, 2012 at 6:11 am
What a shi*ty little comment. Israel was against the Attack on Iraq, and had nothing to do with Afghanistan. You racists make up your own history as you go along.
Guest
October 10th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Arab And Nazi lies now blend into one. And it spreads like cancer to the whole Islamist world. Still no one has answered the question of why Israel is blamed for a lack of peace with the Palestinians even though they made land for peace deals with Egypt and Jordan. Could it be that the Palestinians don't want peace for land, but just the land?
Donna
October 10th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Neocons=Neoliberals. The US has not deviated from the PNAC plan, which began with the neocons, and continues unabated, under Obama. The idea the Obama regime is somehow recalcitrant, with regard to Israel is the stuff that "hope and change" was made of (balderdash and hogwash), and is simply subterfuge. The current efforts underway to destabilize Syria is pure PNAC and leads directly to the prize: Iran. The record US/Allied military buildup in the Strait of Hormuz, combined with the upcoming largest military exercise with Israel, is no mere coincidence and certainly not just for show.
The proverbial sh-t is about to hit the fan…
jill
October 10th, 2012 at 6:56 am
and a little chicken soup wouldn't hurt…teehee
Kolya_Krassotkin
October 10th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Read your OT, and then you'll realize why Israel will/can never be more than just another oriental despotism.
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John_Muhammad
October 10th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Where were the protests from Israeli in the UN when the US went after Iraq? Did Israel call for sanctions against the US for its aggression?
And of course the Israelis had nothing to do with Afghanistan- they have contributed NOTHING to ANY Middle Eastern venture the US has been involved with. Where are the Israeli planes over Afghanistan? Where are the ground troops? Did they send anyone to Libya to help us there?
You're darned right Israel has nothing to do with US military expeditions- they refuse to contribute one bit of support in fighting the illegal and immoral wars we are induced to fight on their behalf.
John_Muhammad
October 10th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Yes, they'd love to have the land that was stolen from them returned. Will you help us have their property and real estate returned to them?
Outsider
October 10th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Donna, how you can believe that Obama is the same as the neocons is beyond me. They have been obsessed with discrediting him ever since he took office. Obama, with his eye on reelection, knows that he cannot just dismiss the Israeli lobby (although he has sure frustrated the warmonger Netanyahu). However, Romney, based on his recent foreign policy speech, appears to be a neocon on steroids. To believe that there is no difference Obama and the neocons is just not reality.
Regarding your final sentence, the sh-t may still hit the fan under Obama, but how can it not happen under Romney, who seems to have no more knowledge of world affairs than GWB did – although he speaks a lot better.
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baz
October 10th, 2012 at 9:38 am
whatever happened to Mansour Arbabsiar, the accused Iranian saudi ambassador bomb plotter. Is h still in jail? Has he had a trial? has he been sucked into a black hole?
musings
October 10th, 2012 at 10:06 am
I find it hard to credit what you say, since many of the gung-ho Iraq attack people were neocons with dual Israeli American citizenship. You make an extraordinary claim with no evidence. The Likudniks are very much in bed with the neocons, whatever the mass of Israeli residents or "diaspora" people might think. But even without that political side to it, Saddam Hussein launched a SCUD attack on Israel during Gulf War I, which would make him a marked man since that, from Israel's standpoint. To add to it, they destroyed his nuclear reactor (one of the Israeli pilots who participated died just before Gulf War II in the crash of the Columbia space shuttle). Just don't tell me there wasn't majority Israeli support for taking out Saddam.
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Allowed Truth
October 10th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Just like it is almost a 100% chance America will join the illegal war if Israel attacks Iran,Iran will no this unless America completly goes against all Israels illegal intensions will attack Israels including Demona hope I spelled that right,and also justly attack all American bases within reach.Why should Iran leave the American military alone to attack them and supply Israel with anything they ask for.An Israel attack would be just like an American attack because of the Israel military is all American tec including stolen tecnology.Americans that have yet to wake up need to now before this illegal unessasary world changeing attack takes place.Fact is most of the world aside from American controlled countrys is against all these illegal wars.Don't let your government lie you into another illegal war,witch would bring my country Canada into a war are people don't want.
Truth Allowed
October 10th, 2012 at 10:42 am
They would rather have us Gentils muder and be murderd in all these illegal war more for Israel than anything else.
Truth Allowed
October 10th, 2012 at 10:48 am
For 1 you would never be a guest at my or anyone I knows place,and Israel has been stealing all of Palistine well murdering mothers,children,fathers and people trying to defend their home land and people.I don't see Palistine doing anything anyone else would not do under the same even much less illegal actions.
Truth Allowed
October 10th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Congress are a bunch of paid of cowards and could force the constitution and not allow the funding of any wars of agression if they just bfollowed the law.Their are very few exceptions in all of congress to the Neocon Zionist warmongering.
Truth Allowed
October 10th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Smithboy that is such a great idea and I new they are war criminals murders and everthing else,but I never thought of actually stoping them without a civil war untill I read your comment.Please their is more than the evidence needed much more and so many charges that themselfs would call for the death penality or life without parole.Now we need some smart brave patriots to proceed with this.I bet even if we started a public survey almost everyone would want a trial to see if they have been lied to because many belive only the MSM and what the criminals say,but a fair trial even they belive would stop what they call conspiracys.I'm Canadian but,would love if Americans make this happen then it would cause a domino effect after.
Truth Allowed
October 10th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Obama I belive is the better of the 2 evils,but Obama has been a more aggressive president than GWB and has done nothing to make anyone belive he is not a Neocon.I belive a person like Obama could win the election telling the real trouth about the countrys illegal policys and breaking from them all but he is not brave or nice,he's just a good con artist.Again I hope I'm wrong and if the wins the election will let the truth be known and get the Bankers and Neocon Zionists out of anything government or illegal under the constitution.After all I thought he was an expert on the constitution,so far I know it much better.
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Smithboy
October 10th, 2012 at 11:49 am
TA…Here is the beauty of it. All US soldiers who served in Irag, and or the families of those killed in action, would be asked to join in a class action lawsuit. Should the case be won, damages could be assessed at $5 million to $10 million for soldiers killed in the bogus neocon war to lesser amounts for limb loss, PTS, broken marriages from long deployments, suicides related to the war, etc. I would be willing to bet you that 95% of those affected would jump at the chance to join in the lawsuit, especially after they were shown an explicit video explaining just how they were duped.
The neocons and the main stream media would then have to attack the "Warriors" for being greedy or for complaining about serving in wars they signed up to fight. Of course, soldiers took an oath to protect this country, not to join in some cute little con game dreamed up in Tel Aviv. Remember, these are the same soldiers the lapdog media praised so mightily when the young men and women were doing battle for the PNAC/ AIPAC lunatics.
One of the initial problems would be neocon judges sympathetic to PNAC who would make it difficult to advance without top secret documents. Not being a lawyer, I am guessing the case would have to be fought in some type of world court venue.
Finally, if it looked as if the conspirators would be facing jail time or loss of fortune, how quickly do you think they would start turning states evidence? That's when it would get very interesting. Huge awards would be justice fulfilled for all the misery our military has gone through.
james
October 10th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
So genius, only one question to shut you up totally, who was behind the yellow cake hoax in the run up to the Iraq war?
Look Guest, this place is for free thinking adults not juveniles, if you are comfortable with the MSM then you are wasting your valuable time here. My comment up there stands unless you provide a contrary argument. It is simplicity itself, No Israel=No problem and if you really cannot see this then you are either blind or an Israeli Zionist or a christian rapture cultist.
james
October 10th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Tadzio, please provide me links to this guys crimes. He should not be allowed in any civilized country , period.
james
October 10th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
So guest, you come to my home, destroy half of it, kill members of my family and take the rest of it along with the land for your family. Then when you offer me to sleep in the 3rd basement without any connection to the outside world you accuse me of not wanting peace? Your argument is pathetic, you and the shi*ty little state have been outed to all thinking people.
liberal
October 10th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
"Obama has been a more aggressive president than GWB…"
Garbage. While Obama has been too aggressive—e.g., re Afgh he should have just declared victory and gotten us the hell out of there—he's done nothing remotely as aggressive, illegal, and idiotic as Bush's invasion of Iraq.
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Sam
October 10th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us _universe_, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest… a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Einstein
Truth Allowed
October 10th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
They would demonize anyone involved and it would be interesting but, if they are not being greedy tyraicle money hungry murders they should want to prove innocence with all documents shown to the court.If not to me and many that don't already know they would be admitting guilt by not trying to show your none of the above.I belive Americans and the world would demand to see the actual facts shown to a judge that is not corrupt.They should not be able to play the clasifide thing with evidence that would prove their guilt.We no from study about things like the 9/11 fauls flag and how it was an American Israely job,imagine what we would see if all the facts were brought into court by a good lawyer.They would do everthing to prevent this because it would be a 100% conviction.
Truth Allowed
October 10th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Would be nice but will never happen untill these warmongering Neocons are gone and the tv and MSM stop lieing to the brainwashed people that don't see the real truth.
Donna
October 10th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Outsider:
I do not support either of these warmongers. War will happen under both of these puppets, they serve the same masters and that is precisely the point.
My vote in my moral responsibility: I will not vote for anyone who will bring us more war and both of these jackals will bring us more war.
Obama has broken almost every campaign promise he made, why should anyone take him at his word now? That makes no sense.
Look at all Obama has done since his 'selection'. The most prominent phrase which comes to mind is: Obama is Bush on steroids.
third way
October 10th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
There have been 103 Canadian soldiers killed in Operation Enduring Freedom.
4,251 Americans, two Australians, one Azerbaijani, 179 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, one Czech, seven Danes, two Dutch, two Estonians, one Fijian, five Georgians, one Hungarian, 33 Italians, one Kazakh, one Korean, three Latvians, 22 Poles, three Romanians, five Salvadoran, four Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians — in the war in Iraq as of February 27, 2009, according to a CNN count
Where was all of their governments protests?
third way
October 10th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Welcome to the dialectic…It's your love of the State that haunts you all. The State is your mommy and daddy, the State provides security, healthcare, family planning and loves you. hee hee. You love the State more than yourself, more than God, more than anything. You will fight and die for the State. The State provides a Third Way, which is no third way at all.
no third way
October 10th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
"This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us."
When we stop doing this, above, and start doing this below, is when we ask for war.
" Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Einstein
The poor are Jesus's people not yours. Honest business and trade is great, but traveling with an ulterior motive of doing something other than just being honest is well….deceitful. Having less than another is not nor should be a crime. They do inherit the earth.
Nelson_2008
October 10th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Justin said: "The President has steadfastly refused to give in, at least up until this point. He has even gone so far as to inform the Iranians in advance that any such attack by Israeli forces will not have the sanction or support of the US — and, in such an event, to please refrain from attacking American targets in Iraq and the Persian Gulf."
This is a smokescreen. The "President" (if we can call him that) is just another puppet playing a role. A direct, unprovoked attack on Iran was never an option in the first place. Netahyahoo and the "let's attack Iran" nonsense is simply propaganda being used to make "Obama" look like a "reasonable" person by comparison, for those who need and want to be fooled.
They will eventually get their war against Iran, but they'll do it through the back door of Syria, which was always the plan. As I type this Turkey is doing everything possible to get the war going. How can anyone give the butcher "Obama" credit for being anything other than the mass-murderer he is?
james
October 10th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
What are you on man, we demand to try some as fellow commenters here.
Really, what are you talking about, I am either missing the picture or you are smoking something.
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Oswaldwasalefty
October 11th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
It's not all about Israel. There is the issue of U.S. power. Why is Israel in any position to be able to attack Iran? That would be the considerable financial and military aid it gets from Washington. No U.S. aid means no potential for a Greater Israel, and it is doubtful Israel could even hang onto the West Bank without U.S. support. This is why the Israel lobby is so aggressive in the U.S., and so loud about denouncing any criticism of Israel as "Antisemitism".
There are plenty of reasons why Washington hates Iran and wants to take a club its knees. There is the humiliation suffered by Washington during the Iranian Revolution and the storming of the U.S. and imprisonment of the personnel. Obviously, something is really wrong with those Iranians (and not the Washington backed overthrow of Iranian democracy five decades ago and backing of the Shah). Clearly they need to be taught a lesson in how Washington administers revenge. Just take a look at the wreckage that is now Afghanistan. There is the sovereign debt of the Shah regime, which, like the sovereign debts of Saigon, Phnom Penh and Vientiane, Washington wants repaid. Debt is sacred, when it is owed by the powerless to privileged elites (Not so much when it is owed to working class people, like with the Social Security and Medicare insurance they've paid into their entire working lives. Those are "entitlements" that we must do away with). This issue isn't brought up in anti-war circles much, outside a few exceptions, like Chomsky and Michael Hudson, but it's the bread and butter of Euro-American hegemony over the globe.
Jane
October 11th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Israel was forced to make "land for peace deals" as you so quaintly put it by UN Security Council Resolution 242 unanimously adopted on Nov 22,1967 just after the violent, bloody and preemptive land grab that was the Six Day War whereby Israel took by force land from almost every one of its neighbors.
Part of the Resolution from Wikipedia:
"The preamble[3] emphasizes the "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in the Middle East in which every State in the area can live in security."
Operative Paragraph One "Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:
(i) Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."
It was an early attempt by the UN Security Council to reign in and contain the belligerent and rapacious little "state" of Israel. This was the good old days when the UN actually had some influence in this ugly conflict. As we have seen in subsequent years, Israel has utilized its creature the US to veto any further attempts by the Security Council to put them in check.
And as is stated many times on these blog sites, the Palestinians sitting down with Israel to discuss a peace process is like two parties sitting down to discuss how to split a pizza while one side is busy gobbling it up – who the the hell are you kidding anyway?? Netanyahu and the current regime you brainiacs have voted in have NO intention of re-starting the Peace Process anyway and the rest of the world knows it. The only thing they want to start is WWIII!
Jane
October 12th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Awesome, James!!!!!
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El Tonno
October 12th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
The last hope for any progress on that went poof when Jitzchak Rabin was shot in 1995. I remember that things had a feel of hanging in the balance; would a final peace accord be reached … well, he got conveniently shot by some swastika worshipper. Things went downhill from there and fascism broke out in ugly weals. Ten years later, Arafat was strategically offed after tanks parked in front of his HQ for weeks. Apparently the Israelis are pretty much A-OK with all of that. I don't believe in God or Souls, so I can't call for mercy on theirs,
El Tonno
October 12th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Yeah yeah yeah. Maybe. But probably not.
El Tonno
October 12th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I someone has been doing his job, there is a nice plan for a first-strike on the Israeli nuclear capability in a drawer somewhere. And I hope it would have been discussed with the Russians because the SLBMs will be a-flying for a few minutes.
Whether it will be pulled out when needed is another question.
occupy911truth
October 12th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
i highly suggest you review the evidence. it is actually *quite* persuasive. i thought "probably not" as well for almost a decade. then i reviewed the verified evidence. and i am no slouch in the sciences, and am not a conspiracy theorist…. i just happen to have come to the very firm and well founded conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job.
El Tonno
October 12th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
a "neoconservative" is something totally different from a "neoliberal"
The first is for a Strong State and Fascialism as well as Military Supremacy and Expansion.
The second is an economist who favors intervention in the economy and central planning of the socialist kind because he doesn't believe the free market would actually work.
El Tonno
October 12th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
> Why is Israel in any position to be able to attack Iran?
AFAIK, it still isn't. Not enough long-range planes or tankers for a successful mission. There was even talk of using Georgia as a springboard, though I am not sure where that went. Probably some fantasy stuff. I hear the Georgia wants to take up NATO integration discussions again, so I suppose there will be a forceful re-integration into the Russian sphere of influence soon anyway.
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tadzio
October 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The wiki article on him covers it. Section 5.2, header _ Conviction for Assault. The attack was more brutal than the article hints at. There was a plea bargain. The footnotes are in Hebrew. However if you google the basic facts you will come up with all the details you require.
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william mcdonaghIII
October 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
you should of taken your article a step further and lay the blame where it belongs for 9-11.a false flag attack carried out by zionist turncoats in the us government and the wicked state of israel
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