Bibi’s Game: Nuclear Blackmail?
An Israeli strike against Iran is bound to go nuclear
The Israelis are going all out to lure, threaten, and scare the US into attacking Iran: the world hasn’t seen such a frenzy of staged hysterics since my three-year-old niece threatened to hold her breath until her parents agreed to buy her all six Barbie Fashionistas. Complain, complain, complain: kvetch, kvetch, kvetch: that’s been Bibi Netanyahu’s shtick ever since this President took office. However, the hysterics reached a crescendo of unprecedented shrillness last week, a turn of events dutifully reported in the Washington Post:
“A flurry of public statements and anonymous quotes to the Israeli news media in the past week has raised speculation that an Israeli attack could come before the U.S. presidential election in November.”
Anonymous Israeli officials snort in disgust at those “unreliable” Americans who sent them nearly $4 billion last year, make a big display of testing the country’s anti-missile defenses, and issue gas masks in preparation for the much-threatened and long awaited Israeli first strike on Iran.
I’ll huff, and I’ll puff, and I’ll blow your house down!
The Israeli wolf is at the door, but one has to wonder what this President’s house is made of: straw, sticks, or bricks? And when the wolf comes down the chimney, will the pot be set to boiling? Not to stretch an analogy beyond the point of no return, but when it comes to Israel and its ceaseless demands, “not by the hair of my chinny chin chin” isn’t in this administration’s vocabulary.
While some officials may express such sentiments privately, in public the American response to Netanyahu’s open attempt to blackmail this White House has been complete silence. If you listen real hard, you can hear the first leaves falling on the White House lawn. Aside from boilerplate rhetoric about leaving no option off the proverbial table, and hailing the “success” of sanctions, the Americans have been unusually restrained, even given their usual reluctance to tangle with Tel Aviv.
Why is that? Yes, yes, I know, it’s all about the Vast Zionist Conspiracy That Controls the World, as some of the more misguided and simplistic critics of Israel would have it. While nothing I say or write will talk such people out of their primitive reductionism, this is not to deny the existence and power of the Israel lobby in this country. It is merely to suggest that something else is at work here, a factor unreported but previously hinted at – and that is the possibility Netanyahu is playing a game of nuclear blackmail with this administration, threatening to launch a nuclear first strike at Iran.
This possibility was prefigured, you’ll recall, in a New York Times op ed piece by Benny Morris, an Israeli historian of note, published in the summer of 2008. Morris argued that unless the Israelis or the Americans took out the Iranians’ alleged nuclear weapons facilities in six to eight months,
“[T]he Middle East will almost certainly face a nuclear war — either through a subsequent pre-emptive Israeli nuclear strike or a nuclear exchange shortly after Iran gets the bomb.
“It is in the interest of neither Iran nor the United States (nor, for that matter, the rest of the world) that Iran be savaged by a nuclear strike, or that both Israel and Iran suffer such a fate. We know what would ensue: a traumatic destabilization of the Middle East with resounding political and military consequences around the globe, serious injury to the West’s oil supply and radioactive pollution of the earth’s atmosphere and water.
“But should Israel’s conventional assault fail to significantly harm or stall the Iranian program, a ratcheting up of the Iranian-Israeli conflict to a nuclear level will most likely follow.”
I said at the time I thought this would never have been published in the Times without at least the foreknowledge and encouragement of Israeli government officials, perhaps the most hawkish faction of the national security establishment. One has to wonder if Morris’s grim prophecy has come true to the extent that Bibi is now threatening to fulfill it.
It makes sense technically, because Israel’s threat to launch a solo attack is hollow otherwise. Iran’s alleged nuclear facilities are so well dispersed, and, in the case of the Fordow installation, so well fortified as to represent an insuperable challenge to Israel’s military capabilities. A first strike would simply not take them out, and the war to follow would last far longer than the mere thirty-day IDF blitzkrieg imagined by some Israeli officials. What would take them out, however – and possibly threaten the very existence of the Iranian regime – would be a few well-targeted nuclear bombs.
Of these, Israel has plenty: indeed, the Israeli Prime Minister reportedly had something to do with their original acquisition, according to recently declassified documents [.pdf] no one outside Israel is paying much attention to. What a narrative for our more melodramatic future historians and Netanyahu biographers: he blackmailed the Americans with the very weapon his young self stole out from under their averted noses.
Perhaps the Israelis will settle for something less than the head of Ahmadinejad in exchange for calling off their nuclear pit bulls – say, the release of Jonathan Pollard, a perennial favorite of right-wing Israeli politicians, and a clampdown on leaks underscoring the threat posed by Israeli intelligence to US interests in the Middle East. But how long will these concessions satisfy them? Blackmailers are rarely satisfied with a few pay-offs. The November election may come and go, with no Israeli strike forthcoming – but always, from this point on, there will be that possibility hanging over Obama’s head, a veritable sword of Damocles hanging by a very thin string. No wonder his hair is turning white.
Given the nuclear threat emanating from Israel, one has to wonder how and why the Europeans hopped on the sanctions bandwagon with such eagerness. After all, weren’t we told the Europeans were fanatically hostile to Israel, and that this was the direct consequence of the “new anti-Semitism”? Why the big turnaround?
When contemplating nuclear war and its consequences, the first issue is physical proximity: the environmental consequences of a nuclear conflict for Europe are bound to be significant. If indeed Bibi is engaging in nuclear blackmail, then it’s easy to see the Europeans going along with the tightest sanctions – and even preemptive war – in the interests of avoiding a greater evil.
This is to say nothing of the consequences for Israel should such a horrific scenario occur, upon which the whole world would sit in harsh judgment — not least of all, the judgment of history. Then again, the Israelis may not care so much about that.
In making an argument in favor of nuking Iran, Prof. Morris echoed a claim often made by Israeli government officials and their amen corner in the US: that the Iranian regime is not rational in the Western sense, and its leaders are not rational actors. According to this tired talking point, it’s all about Shi’ite theology, which supposedly means Iran’s leaders are eager to embrace martyrdom as their highest religious duty. Once they gain access to nuclear weapons, Tehran’s mullahs will not be deterred by the prospect of retaliation: since their religious duty is the destruction of Israel, they will not hesitate to launch a nuclear attack.
Without going into too much detail over the shoddiness of this threadbare argument, I’d like to suggest that one could, at this point, justifiably question the rationality of the current Israeli leadership. They seem determined to plunge the region into a conflagration that is likely to drag in much of the rest of the world.
In characterizing the Iranians as irrational actors, Israel’s propagandists are engaging in a classic case of projection. Blinded by a religious fundamentalism that envisions a Greater Israel as the fulfillment of Divine Will, the radicals who have taken over the Israeli government pose much more of a direct threat than their Muslim equivalents – because, after all, the Israelis are actually in possession of a great many nukes, as many as 500.
If we take Israeli rhetoric at face value, then the possibility of an Israeli nuclear strike is more than mere speculation. The Israeli position is clear: Iran even having the means to assemble a nuclear weapon without actually doing so represents an “existential threat” to the Jewish state. If they must choose between enduring another holocaust or inflicting one — what course will Netanyahu take?
If my guess is correct, then he has already made his choice – and the next move is up to the Obama administration.
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Johnny in Wi.
August 19th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
The Israeli's have been practicing nuclear blackmail ever since 1973 and threat of Golda Meir to use them in that war. Nixon caved in that time, and I don't expect Obama to do any different. Everyone who has followed this issue in internet discussion groups the sees the Zionist bloggers threaten to use nuclear weapons al the time. They are forever calling for nuclear genocide against any one they see as their enemies. The wacko Neocons and their Israeli followers think that is they once use nuclear weapons against the Muslims, they will be able to terrorize them forever. We have created a terrible Frankenstein monster and maybe brought the world a huge nulcear war in which tens of millions will die.
Johnny in Wi.
August 19th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
The Israeli's have been using nuclaer blackmail ever since 1973 when Golda Meir threatend to use them in that war and Nixon caved in. Sooner or later they are going to use them. They think if they use them once all their troubles will be over. Then they can drive out the Palistinians and take any other Arab land they want. Many Israeli supporters on the internet have been pushing for nuclear genocide as a tactical program for as long as I can remmeber. Netanyahu's father was a terrrible racist who hated the Arabs and any thought of a peace without the Zionist goals being fully implemented. The apple hasn't fallen far from the tree.
Steve H.
August 19th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
One can only hope that all the bluster coming from Tel Aviv is nothing but a high stakes bluff to get the Americans to do Israel's dirty work by conventional means. Whereas the thought of a conventional war with Iran to thwart a non-existent nuclear bomb threat defies all reason, resorting to pre-emptive nuclear strikes is simply too insane to contemplate.
A rational American foreign policy would involve a complete withdrawal of all troops and a closing of all bases, not to mention a total halt to the meddling, spying, coups, and assassinations. No more funding of rebel groups, propping up dictators, or unleashing computer worms. This nonsense needs to stop.
Too bad that America's "choice" in November will have no meaningful impact on Israel's stranglehold on American foreign policy or its complete control of Congress. Relying on Israeli and American military leaders to rein in the rogue regimes that rule them does not exactly inspire confidence.
Mark Thomason
August 19th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Yes, they may well be hinting at that threat too. They have been hinting at every other possible threat. That is the only thing missing to be every possible threat used in blackmail.
The Israeli military won't let Bibi do it, not nuclear anyway.
The key concept here is payback. Obama will go for payback for this blackmail on the US elections. Whatever they think they bullied him into, it will be like all other election promises. But getting even is about more than satisfaction, it is a hard political reality very well understood in Chicago. Obama is President, and he got there because he understands that stuff, very very well.
I look for Obama to regime change Bibi starting the second week of November. It will be so sweet. The many levers at Obama's disposal defy numbering. Obama is going to beat that twerp bloody.
Dissenter
August 19th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
I don't disagree with everything Raimondo has written here, but he contradicts himself right at the very end:
Are the Israelis "blinded by a religious fundamentalism that envisions a Greater Israel as the fulfillment of Divine Will" or are they trying to avoid "enduring another holocaust"?
Is Justin's point that Israeli leaders are "radicals" who are trying to expand their territory, or self-protective rationalists who are trying to prevent Iranian radicals from destroying them? It seems obvious that it's the latter; nobody talks seriously of Israel expanding its borders to the Euphrates!
And who ever decided an attack on Iran was a choice between "enduring" a holocaust or "inflicting" one? Nobody wants to inflict a holocaust on Iran. At most, there's a desire to obliterate their nuclear sites, not destroy their nation. I'm against an attack on Iran too, but I'm also against drawing false equivalencies between possibly misguided Israeli leaders on the one hand, and outright genocidal mullahs on the other. The mullahs are rabid fundamentalists whose cruel deeds (primarily against their own people) and threats to destroy Israel (including several in the last few days) are completely overlooked by Raimondo, leaving a massive gaping hole in his arguments.
If Israelis are as nuts as Raimondo claims, why haven't they used a single one of their 500 nukes yet? They've had them for decades! The medieval mullahs should only be so restrained should they ever get their hands on a nuke of their own. It's hard to blame Israelis for not wanting them to get that chance.
Dissenter
August 19th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
I don't disagree with everything Raimondo has written here, but he contradicts himself right at the very end:
Are the Israelis "blinded by a religious fundamentalism that envisions a Greater Israel as the fulfillment of Divine Will" or are they trying to avoid "enduring another holocaust"?
Is Justin's point that Israeli leaders are "radicals" who are trying to expand their territory, or self-protective rationalists who are trying to prevent Iranian radicals from destroying them? It seems obvious that it's the latter; nobody talks seriously of Israel expanding its borders to the Euphrates!
And who ever decided an attack on Iran was a choice between "enduring" a holocaust or "inflicting" one? Nobody wants to inflict a holocaust on Iran. At most, there's a desire to obliterate their nuclear sites, not destroy their nation. I'm against an attack on Iran too, but I'm also against drawing false equivalencies between possibly misguided Israeli leaders on the one hand, and outright genocidal mullahs on the other. The mullahs are rabid fundamentalists whose cruel deeds (primarily against their own people) and threats to destroy Israel (including several in the last few days) are completely overlooked by Raimondo, leaving a massive gaping hole in his arguments.
If Israelis are as nuts as Raimondo claims, why haven't they used a single one of their 500 nukes yet? They've had them for decades! The medieval mullahs should only be so restrained should they ever get their hands on a nuke of their own. It's hard to blame Israelis for not wanting them to get that chance.
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Zia Ahad
August 20th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Pity the US allows itself to be so bullied by a patently rabid fanatic who should have been put away in some asylum. The only language befitting the zionists is straight talk: strike against a non-nuclear signatory of NPT and face the same sanction the US has been enforcing on Iran (- and the inhuman sanctions on Saddam's Iraq that cost a million lives and effectively destroyed its economy). Is it a mere coincidence that the only two militarily potent states in the region that could challenge Israeli conventional prowess should have been egged on into eight years of devastating warfare that emaciated both (Iraq and Iran). Today, one is under US occupation and the second is under threat of an Israeli attack. Let the US declare that it would neither bankroll Nutty's misadventure nor provide any military support to this act of aggression and watch this coward take its case to mamma-AIPAC. Ironic how Americans allow themselves to be befooled into identifying with AIPAC interests – even when these are evidently against their own.
tadzio
August 20th, 2012 at 3:02 am
"The radicals who have taken over the Israeli government…" Israel has always been governed by Racist Radicals. They have not recently 'taken over." Some may have hidden it a wee bit better, but zionism is Racist to the core. Every zionist agrees with the former Chief Rabbi of Israel, Ovadia Josef, founder and spiritual head of the Shas party of Bibi's coalition, that non-Jews were created by Yahweh to serve Jews and for no other purpose. Washington daily reinforces this obscene Racist belief.
Northerner
August 20th, 2012 at 3:22 am
Most but unfortunately not all of the people in the Middle East are fully away that their region is ruled by sociopaths willing to use any external agency to keep them in place. Or put them in place if they fancy taking over. If Israel could be seen to be better than this it could become something the rest of them could live with. So many of the nation states there are totally fake – and nowadays militant Islamist rhetoric is increasingly seen as an eleventh commandment – thou shall vote for me (once). And a heresy at that. The Turkish model is having a lot of effect.
Consequently if Israel starts throwing nukes around it will stop being something the Muslim world could live with if it mended its ways. Surprisingly – Al Jazeera – with it's motto – "The opinion – and the other opinion" has had a great deal to do with this. However much they despise Israels treatment of Palestinians they do now appreciate the history and utterly understandable paranoia behind the issues. The reason I know this is because I speak Arabic and deal with Arabs on a daily basis. They fully adknowledge their own 'leadership' tend to be sociopathic, opportunistic, useless and ultimately disloyal. Furthermore as regards the Palestinians themselves – diversity is part of their identity. Prior to the tender ministrations of the Western powers and the Zionists they did manage to maintain their own pluralist society without mass expulsions and worse. They are immensely proud of The Holy Land – the Arabic word for Jerusalam (Quds) basically means "Holy". Jewish and Christian history and biblical figures are an inherent part of this. And are mentioned as holy prophets in the Quran BTW.
Start nuking and Israel will simply become something the be rid of. Period. Start nuking and the vile hysterics that toy with the lives of millions from their very high places will have to deal with that reality. They will have to get busy convincing American idiots that it's time to wrap up in a thousand stars and strips, carry the cross and commit genocide. It's not as if they havent started nodding in the direction of their frothing idiot troopers.
All this at a time when hitherto poory educated Muslims are discovering the not insignificant numbers of Jews that detest oppression in any form. The ones who have been the most eloquent and valuable spokesmen for the world's oppressed – and that very much includes the Palestinians. And the kind of Israelis who could be very welcome neighbours.
The nukes will destoy all of this. Israels neighbours will rally round their fearless militants as their services will be required.
Of course the puff pussies in their opulent institutes – paid for by American tax reciepts – can live with this. They will floss their weasel words over lobster capapes and congratulate themselves for being the absolute pinnacle of evolution. And indeed they are – a parody of civilisational degeneracy. They are the worst the earth has ever produced.
Smithboy
August 20th, 2012 at 4:25 am
A mass demonstration against Israeli aggression, during 'Yahu's recent visit to DC, would have given Obama some encouragement to stand up to this madman.
bobrage
August 20th, 2012 at 4:25 am
Remove of the Zionists. This would allow the Jews and Muslims to live together in peace as they did before the Zionists invaded Israel.
Mark
August 20th, 2012 at 5:17 am
The never ending rhetoric of those "supporting" Israel regarding an Iranian nuclear program seems to always rest on the allegation that Iran is a 12th century country led by "madmen" that wish to "wipe Israel off the map". Does it ever occur to those that take this postion that they may been ginning up a self-fulfilling prophesy? I honestly doubt it. But, be warned, you may get your wish. If they think this is all spelled out in the Old Testament, they need to realize that the term "Likud Party" appears nowhere in the text.
Phil Giraldi
August 20th, 2012 at 5:32 am
We shall see what kind of kowtowing to Bibi takes place on his upcoming visit to the US. I believe that Obama will cave completely, declaring that negotiations with Iran have failed, which is the currently Israeli position. Nothing short of a presidential statement that the US will have aboslutely nothing to do with Israeli military action will stop this madness, but I don't see it forthcoming.
Jos
August 20th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Do you really want us to believe that the Iranians hate Israel so much that they are willing to nuke Jerusalem, the Palestinians too and most of all, make their own country uninhabitable for a few generations because of the inevitable Israeli nuclear retaliation ?
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guest
August 20th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Give them the nukes and then find out if they use it or not.US gave the nukes to israel ( alsogiven by French and UK)
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guest
August 20th, 2012 at 6:58 am
pre -The medieval rabiis are controlling the country by name Israel.They are doing it from NY and London as their btethern are doing it from TelAviv. Thye are hateful,rabid,antihuman who sees nothing but holocaust at every sign and incidents that question thier wisdom ,sanity,and morality above all question their behavaiors of engulfing world in inferno. It was those medieval who can think of estabslishing a country that thye did not inhabit for 3000 years and can usurp the concept of democracy to align it with their non democratic credentials with religious jargon that will shame even a Taliban or Stalin.
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guest
August 20th, 2012 at 7:09 am
"nobody talks seriously of Israel expanding its borders to the Euphrates!
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No body beleives Israel ( liar according to Sarkozy and pig according to US official Panetta ( ref http://www.mondoweiss.net quoting Israeli news paper ). Britsh came to relaize that in 1940s but it was late . )
guest
August 20th, 2012 at 7:09 am
"nobody talks seriously of Israel expanding its borders to the Euphrates!
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No body beleives Israel ( liar according to Sarkozy and pig according to US official Panetta ( ref http://www.mondoweiss.net quoting Israeli news paper ). Britsh came to relaize that in 1940s but it was late . )
tom dee
August 20th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Why would we come to help Israel when they like Iraq are pushing for war. I doubt the IDF will want to get involved. Other than nukes the Israel tank is the power of the military. In 2006 the IDF had trouble keeping up with the towing of destroyed tanks from Lebanon. The mighty air force of Israel would be in a pickle if they tried to support tank columns. The might IDF is outdated so there is little chance that Israel will attack.
Nelson_2008
August 20th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Justin said: "Yes, yes, I know, it’s all about the Vast Zionist Conspiracy That Controls the World, as some of the more misguided and simplistic critics of Israel would have it. "
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Um, have you happened to have a chance to read the PNAC manifesto, where the Zionist-neocon madmen outline their plan to do exactly that?
Apparently you haven't. That's unfortunate, because if you had, you might've noticed an uncanny resemblance between what the the Zionist/Neocons called for in their PNAC writings, and what's actually happened in the world since – starting with that uncanny coincidence of 9/11.
Nelson_2008
August 20th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Justin said: "Yes, yes, I know, it’s all about the Vast Zionist Conspiracy That Controls the World, as some of the more misguided and simplistic critics of Israel would have it. "
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Um, have you happened to have a chance to read the PNAC manifesto, where the Zionist-neocon madmen outline their plan to do exactly that?
Apparently you haven't. That's unfortunate, because if you had, you might've noticed an uncanny resemblance between what the the Zionist/Neocons called for in their PNAC writings, and what's actually happened in the world since – starting with that uncanny coincidence of 9/11.
But for the sake of argument, let's assume the PNAC manifesto was never published. There's no disputing that they want to dominate and control the Mideast, is there? And there's no disputing that they want to control – and essentially already do exert near total control over the governments of the U.S., UK, Germany, France, Canada, and Australia. I mean, I don't think the average German citizen derives any benefit from the "German" government's direct involvement in overthrowing the Assad government in Syria, right? So it must be for the "benefit" of someone or something else.
And there's no disputing the fact that they're trying to build an anti-missile system which would undermine Russia's and China's nuclear deterrent and thus give them control over those two countries policies, is there?
So it's clear based on undeniable fact and straightforward reasoning that they intend to control a significant portion of the world at least, isn't it? Thus your argument boils down to a matter of degree: If they only end up controlling half the world, rather than the whole world, we're kooks for trying to point it out?
Gera Rosy
August 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Finally we get to the core of the issue. The Goyim (cattle) are solely for exploitation, in the US, in Europe, everywhere. This has always been the case and is the cause of anti-Semitism. Bravo Tadzio for speaking truth to zionist power.
Dissenter
August 20th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Apparently, you don't pay enough attention to the news. Khameini, Ahmadinejad and top military officials in Iran regularly pronounce the imminent demise of Israel. Khameini called Israel a "cancerous tumor" within the last few days. Nasrallah also threatened to turn Israel into a "hell". Israelis have been scrambling to acquire gas masks. Somehow you've failed to notice that Israel is completely surrounded by regimes that seek to destroy it. (What fool would strive to create a "Greater Israel" in that context?)
The above isn't "rhetoric", it's fact. It's also a fact that the Iranian regime brutalizes its own people. Their leaders claim there are no homosexuals in their entire nation, yet they hang gays from cranes. They also rape and stone women, shoot dissenters in the street, and imprison people for so much as writing poems critical of the government (I know one such "criminal" myself). The current regime certainly has medieval qualities.
I think Raimondo actually might have it right when he casts doubt on the notion that the Mullahs are irrational. The problem is more that they're barbaric and evil rather than irrational. Though they deny building nukes, they do announce Israel's imminent destruction almost daily, and they're helping Syria's murderous regime cling to power by slaughtering its own people by the thousand. If a case can't be made that they're irrational, one can certainly be made that they're barbaric and evil.
musings
August 20th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Where is Wikileaks when you need it? (Don't ask). We need to see some of those diplomatic cables and get the inside story on what would surely affect the entire world. Once there is no more speculation about blackmail, but actual proof, we are on the road to stopping this Armageddon. Otherwise, we're all toast.
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silvestris
August 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Should Israel attack Iran, I am advising my son not to take up arms on Israel's behalf. Of course, the draft would have to be re-instituted before the government could attempt to force him into Israel's service. I am sick and tired of Empire. Just because the US was involved in the creation of Israel does not make that "shitty little country"'s existence legitimate.
Touchstone
August 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
When you put it like that, it does sound crazy, doesn't it? So why do Iranian leaders keep announcing the imminent demise of Israel? Why are they goading a nuclear-armed nation and making its people nervous enough to go out and buy gas masks and update their bomb shelters? Why did Nasrallah just say he's going to make Israel a living "hell"? Keep in mind that the leaders who say these hateful things are NOT always responding to a specific Israeli threat to attack their nuclear facilities. They say such things because Israel's existence is provocation enough to them. There's no falsehood in that claim. They DO hate Israel enough to keep announcing its imminent destruction, in the ABSENCE of any specific Israeli threat to attack their nuclear facilities.
That means it doesn't matter who's running Israel at any given time, or whether they're trying to arrange an attack on Iran or not. Netanyahu isn't the problem. The regional intolerance for Israel's existence is the problem. Anyway, that's just my opinion, and I know it's not popular here so I appreciate that I've been allowed to post it.
Reve 13
August 20th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Yes, Raimondo subscribes to a libertarian, ‘non-crazy’ conspiracy theory. It’s the kind that will mean-mouth Israel, sensibly, without going ‘conspiracy-global’ over that nation's incredible power to command American foreign policy and direct its war-making. Under the keyboard of Raimondo, this conspiracy (not "misguided and simplistic') is transparent, and not very deceitful. His is the sophisticated reductionism which critiques the obvious, but would dismiss the documented, dancing Israelis of 9-11 as figments of a "Vast Zionist Conspiracy."
Jos
August 20th, 2012 at 11:29 am
"So why do Iranian leaders keep announcing the imminent demise of Israel? Why are they goading a nuclear-armed nation and making its people nervous enough to go out and buy gas masks and update their bomb shelters? Why did Nasrallah just say he's going to make Israel a living "hell"?"
For the same reason Netanyahu and Barak are threatening to bomb Iran. It's called "psychological warfare".
"The regional intolerance for Israel's existence is the problem."
Exactly. Arabs and Iranians hate Israel's guts, just like Europeans or North Americans would be disgusted by an Arab settler country in their midst that has been created through conquest and ethnic cleansing.
"Anyway, that's just my opinion, and I know it's not popular here so I appreciate that I've been allowed to post it."
You poor thing. Heartbreaking.
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ML3
August 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
why should they back down? All Israel has done since 2003 is threaten Iran. Again: why should Iran back down? Perhaps they do not share your view (and America's) that jewish people are a Chosen, special breed of people who can do no wrong, no matter how much they think they are better than everyone else…like the Nazis.
ML3
August 20th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Maybe Mr. Obama will grow a pair of testicles between now and November and put these Hebrew fundamentalists in their place once and for all: Pull some sh*t around election time, be prepared to lose your precious US aid, and be prepared to subject your nuclear weapons to rigorous inspections as the Iranians do. It's only fair.
Guess all those paid service announcements on the radio about how the current regime in Israel DOES NOT represent the values of jews all over the world ring true.
ML3
August 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
I agree…the Iranian "madmen" that open their nuclear program to rigorous inspections are not to be trusted, while the sane Israelis who lie, obfuscate and threaten to use nukes (the stones on these clowns!) are the ones to back up.
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Drizza
August 20th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Excellent post that was kind of a cheap shot Justin tried to throw in there. Never do they have any proof to prove us wrong but we have tons to prove them wrong. It is best that he stays in his lane and not go to far he doesnt want the wrath of the ADL bought down on him to which in some extent I can understand.
ANU News.net Bibi’s Game: Nuclear Blackmail?
August 20th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
[...] The Israelis are going all out to lure, threaten, and scare the US into attacking Iran: the world hasn’t seen such a frenzy of staged hysterics since my three-year-old niece threatened to hold her breath until her parents agreed to buy her all six Barbie Fashionistas. Complain, complain, complain: kvetch, kvetch, kvetch: that’s been Bibi Netanyahu’s shtick ever since this President took office. However, the hysterics reached a crescendo of unprecedented shrillness last week. http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/08/19/bibis-game-nuclear-blackmail/ [...]
Dissenter
August 20th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
If the Iranian regime would stop supporting belligerent groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, and instead pursued a policy of accepting the outcome of negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians without trying to thwart such a process, then Israel and Iran wouldn't be mutually threatening. But that could happen only with a different Iranian regime. The current one wants Israel destroyed period. Pakistan is no fan of Israel, but they've stated that they will accept whatever the Palestinians decide for themselves in negotiations. Iran's regime is much more hostile and no peace is possible with them under any circumstances.
You don't know me, so where do you get off thinking you can read my mind? I'm totally agnostic when it comes to religion. My support for Israel has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with preserving what was established as a place of refuge. If you truly believe that anyone who says anything in defense of Israel believes the nonsense expressed in your last sentence, you're completely deluded. You must have your own reasons why you cling to such lies.
You're also profoundly mistaken about what "chosen" means to people who practise the religion. The idea is that a supreme being chose a group of people to spread his message of ethical monotheism. It has nothing to do with believing one is a member of a master race that "can do no wrong". It's actually more of a burden than a privilege, because adherents of the faith have to obey all sorts of laws and commandments, and I'm far too agnostic and doubting about the whole thing. I'm definitely not one of the "chosen", and I venture to say, few people really are. And if they are, they're not what you describe.
In practice, you might be right that SOME members of the religion do in fact put themselves on pedestals. But if that's true, they're guilty of distorting their own faith, because it says in the Bible that he who exalts himself will be abased, whereas he who humbles himself will be exalted. (Yes, I know a few things about the religion, but I assure you, I'm not a practitioner.) It's a shame so many people hurl accusations without knowing what they're talking about.
Ben_C
August 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Of course the "Israelis" are 'rational'–not only in Barak's 'Western sense' of 'wanting to solve disputes peacefully', but also in the universal sense of the word. You see: if things don't go well, as expected, Bibi and Barak have devised a contingency plan of starting a new life "Under the Sea"…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OBlq_svBY
Ben_C
August 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Of course the "Israelis" are 'rational'–not only in Barak's 'Western sense' of 'wanting to resolve disputes peacefully', but also in the universal sense of the word. You see: if things don't go well–as planned and as expected, Bibi and Barak have devised a contingency plan of starting a new life "Under the Sea"…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OBlq_svBY
Ben_C
August 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Of course the 'Israelis' are "rational"–not only in Barak's "Western sense" of 'wanting to resolve disputes peacefully', but also in the universal sense of the word. You see: if things don't go well–as planned and as expected–Bibi and Barak have devised a contingency plan of starting a new life "Under the Sea"…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OBlq_svBY
WalkTall Hang Loose
August 20th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Predicting the imminent demise of Israel is not the same thing as threatening to make a military attack. Anyway, they do not use the word 'Israel' in official statements: so we are back to the same old mistranslation, whereby 'the regime occupying Jerusalem will vanish' became 'Israel must be wiped off the map'.
Nasrallah threatens to turn Israel into hell ONLY in response to an initial Israeli attack.
Israel is NOT surrounded by regimes seeking to destroy it. Jordan and Israel have already made peace with Israel, the Palestinians and the other Arab states have offered a peace deal if Israel accepts resolution 242 and international law concerning the settlements and East Jerusalem.
The Iranian regime brutalizes its own people. The Zionist regime brutalizes the Palestinians in the occupied territories. Neither justifies a military attack on the other.
deliaruhe
August 20th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Yes, Bibi would like everybody to believe he's a raging bull and is counting on the US to hold him back, but the US isn't listening. So look out.
Bibi would have to be much more than a raging bull to start a nuclear war while Israel sits downwind of the radioactive fallout. Heluvalotta good gas masks will do.
mikeharry
August 20th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
I am 'pro israel' but am absolutely against this Israeli rhetoric or any first strike. I don't think either the USA or israel ought to engage militarily against Iran, and I think lots of Israelis, and the military there too, agree. Plenty of pro Israel Jews feel the same way, and hopefully common sense will prevail. I don't see how such a strike, especially involving nukes, is good for anyone, Israeli or not.
JDonald
August 20th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
It is high time that Russia stands up and declares that if Israel bombs (conventional or nuclear) facilities in Iran that are under surveillance by the IAEA, Russia will retaliate and bomb the heart of Israel, that is Tel Aviv and Beersheva. Actually it should be the USA and UK that should do the job but those countries are "in the pocket" of Israel, against the will of many of their citizens, as myself. Please Putin make this matter a world issue.
mojo
August 20th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
WARNING>>>< WARNING>>><
WASHINGTON — President Obama on Monday threatened military action against Syria if there was evidence that the government of President Bashar al-Assad was moving its stocks of chemical or biological weapons. It was Mr. Obama’s most direct warning of American intervention in Syria, where Mr. Assad’s military is fighting an 18-month-old rebellion.
If this man wants peace the only thing he needs to do is reach for peace and stop giving all that weapons to these barbarians. Beside,, what IS THIS MAN IS TALKING ABOUT.., if there are any chemical or biological weapon why would Syrian government want to move them and to where..?
These words and rhetoric’s are the sign of desperations, is coming from a man who supposed to be for the peace, yet for now he have shown the opposite of the matter is more true then what he have promised. Look: people, this war according to the plan was going to be like what NATO did in Libya by lying to the world and then having a NO FLY ZONE and then for US and EU and perhaps Israel to invade Syria.
When they use the word "Wrong hand", what dose he means by that..? The Syrian government would be the wrong hand…, is this what he means…? they already have it in their hand and controlling it, they only wrong hand here is these barbarians and the falsified “rebels with no cause”…., then again if this man want peace he needs to do the right thing and stop giving all that weapons to these terrorist groups and or supporting those who dose supply weapons to these terrorists and alike rebels.
Syrian war is not working and people start having questions and doubts about Barack Hussein Obama hand in hand with Hillary Clinton starting another war in Middle East. Although Jim Baker the Saudis and UAE Oil tycoon representative.., and some other national – international recognized faces have announced their support for Hillary but the matter of fact is that this war is a lost bet by all those “recognized” faces from US democratic party to the German Christian democrat party. For these people is either to admit to their warmongering mistakes and apologies to the world and start squeezing Israel demanding it to follow the human rights and all other international laws, stop their settlement projects, as is called, and for US and EU to stop paying Israel by the billions and for Israel to recognize the 1967 Palestinians land or this war, if is continued, one way or the other will spillover the borders of many country and then US and EU can joining in facing much bigger war’ which they cannot afford.
mojo
August 20th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
WARNING>>>< WARNING>>><
WASHINGTON — President Obama on Monday threatened military action against Syria if there was evidence that the government of President Bashar al-Assad was moving its stocks of chemical or biological weapons. It was Mr. Obama’s most direct warning of American intervention in Syria, where Mr. Assad’s military is fighting an 18-month-old rebellion.
If this man wants peace the only thing he needs to do is reach for peace and stop giving all that weapons to these barbarians. Beside,, what IS THIS MAN IS TALKING ABOUT.., if there are any chemical or biological weapon why would Syrian government want to move them and to where..?
These words and rhetoric’s are the sign of desperations, is coming from a man who supposed to be for the peace, yet for now he have shown the opposite of the matter is more true then what he have promised. Look: people, this war according to the plan was going to be like what NATO did in Libya by lying to the world and then having a NO FLY ZONE and then for US and EU and perhaps Israel to invade Syria.
When they use the word "Wrong hand", what dose he means by that..? The Syrian government would be the wrong hand…, is this what he means…? they already have it in their hand and controlling it, they only wrong hand here is these barbarians and the falsified “rebels with no cause”…., then again if this man want peace he needs to do the right thing and stop giving all that weapons to these terrorist groups and or supporting those who dose supply weapons to these terrorists and alike rebels.
Syrian war is not working and people start having questions and doubts about Barack Hussein Obama hand in hand with Hillary Clinton starting another war in Middle East. Although Jim Baker the Saudis and UAE Oil tycoon representative.., and some other national – international recognized faces have announced their support for Hillary but the matter of fact is that this war is a lost bet by all those “recognized” faces from US democratic party to the German Christian democrat party. For these people is either to admit to their warmongering mistakes and apologies to the world and start squeezing Israel demanding it to follow the human rights and all other international laws, stop their settlement projects, as is called, and for US and EU to stop paying Israel by the billions and for Israel to recognize the 1967 Palestinians land or this war, if is continued, one way or the other will spillover the borders of many country and then US and EU can joining in facing much bigger war’ which they cannot afford.
james
August 21st, 2012 at 2:27 am
As I have stated before many times on this site and others, if the western world is in any shape or form rational, they should be tracking all the shitty little state's nuclear weapons and delivery systems. After all they provided everything for these eternal ingrates. Germany for instance could have rigged their subs to monitor and follow them around. This is the only way to save thew planet because, as Justin points out quite correctly, nothing is enough. Today Iran, tomorrow who knows, Russia, india?? The only thing these warmongers understand is force.
One last point for Justin, you might be right about the great zionist conspiracy, but again you emphasize the power of the lobby in the US and other western capitals. What the hell is the difference?
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Generalissimo X
August 21st, 2012 at 8:06 am
not only is israel a rogue, criminal state by all accounts, it is insane and deluded to boot. if anyone, anywhere thinks for any reason that israel is just going to do a big bomb run, wipe out some "facilities" and that will be that, well…god help the rest of us is all.
and i've just been on some msm sites reading the blogs. the rampant hatred and blind historical stupidity is insane. and while no fan of obama it seems there is this collective forgetfulness of iraq, george bush and everything that went wrong. everything that has gone wrong with america seemingly happened since 2008 and up until that point everything was perfect utopia. this war will happen just because people are stupid enough to let it happen, hell support it even. i also saw that the vast majority will never have to do anything themselves to fight. it is to me the height of cowardice to have others fight for you, as opposed to fighting yourself.
Generalissimo X
August 21st, 2012 at 8:08 am
yeh it's a coincidence they've occupied the halls of all of our banks, media outlets, political offices and of course 9-11. these zionist maniacs have had everything out in plain view for years, yet it's us "crazies" who call them on it.
notinmyname
August 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Nutty yahoo is clearly insane and his regime is an existentialist danger to the whole world. However, in his quieter moments, if he has any, he might just reflect that it might be a lot more complicated than he believes. I am pretty sure that the geographical coordinates of Israel's Dimona nuclear plant will by now be programmed into the guidance systems of a number of Iranian missiles. This will in effect ensure that Iran can, if need be, create a devastating nuclear explosion on the rogue state's soil. With this possibility Iran doesn't need its own bomb.
Outsider
August 21st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Boy I sure hope you're right, Mark, but I'm not very hopeful. I've been saying or some time that, despite his many failed left wing domestic policies, Obama is the only hope to avoid a war with Iran (and Syria, et al), which we will ultimately lose. It is clear that Romney will be Bibi's lapdog if he's elected. A bombing of Iran would probably begin shortly after he's sworn in. However, in the probability that he is reelected, I hope that a strenghtened Obama will look to initiate the regime change that you metioned. It would be so sweet on the Bible thumpers who not so secretly long for the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming.
richard vajs
August 21st, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Dissenter,
Why do you call Hezbollah and Hamas "belligerent groups"? Who invaded Lebanon? And who defended Lebanon? The IDF was the agressor and Hezbollah was the defender. So who is belligerent? And Hamas is just trying to keep the beleagured, unrecognized State of Palestine going in spite of Israel's cruel and nasty treatment of the occupied territories, so what is belligerent about them? Incidentally, the IDF got its ass handed to them, in its lasting outting in Lebanon. What do you think will happen when they step up in class to take on the Iranians?
Regarding "chosen", every ass—e, I ever met thought that he was "special"; it is an essential part of being a sociopath. prime examples – Bibi Netanyahou, the "settlers".
AmericanMuse
August 21st, 2012 at 5:51 pm
If Israeli leaders are foolish enough to attack Iran and get their butts whipped as Iran has guaranteed, then that is their choice. The Persians, unlike the Arabs, don't use hyperbole and mean what they say. Not to worry about Israeli "blackmail" as Iran will take care of them. I have more important things to bother about.
obie
August 21st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Ha Ha, they called them a cancerous tumor. I think all governments have a tendency to be a cancerous tumor, and yet look they're all still there. Why doesn't the Israeli government calm the people a bit, instead working them into a frenzy for gas masks? If Iran is killing as many people as you say, all Israel has to do is wait it out till Iran wipes themselves out. Then there will only be the Mullahs and few security guards to deal with.
obie
August 21st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
CANCEROUS TUMOR! Nope still there, just thought I'd try.
Abracadabra! nope still there.
Son of Liberty
August 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 am
That is a good post. Jerusalem herself has to be guaranteed toast if WW3 breaks out and you might as well throw in Rome and Mecca for safety. Future generations should not be forced to live with religious war and hate.The West is infected with the "Bible" and the Koran and the Talmud. They are all books of lies and hate. Just think, the average Westerner lives his entire life feeling guilty for even being alive, much less a sexual being. He is constantly looking over his shoulder at his imaginary friend , who hates his guts. You can`t keep these Gods happy until you are dead and no longer breathing, drinking, having sex or even thinking an impure thought. This is what passes for liberty in the West!
Neil
August 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 am
Since when did Israel do its own dirty work? I always laugh whenever anyone mentions "the threat to stability" in the Middle East, as if it was ever stable.
MetaCynic
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:06 am
What makes Bibbi's government think that Iran hasn't already infiltrated bio/chemical weapons into Israel waiting to be released upon a nuclear strike on Iran? Furthermore, what will happen to the quality of life in Israel if, in retaliation to a nuclear strike on Iran, an Iranian missile barrage demolishes Israel's nuclear reactors?
Dutch
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Absurd. What do you REALLY KNOW?
Do a quick Google search and you will find that there are hundreds of thousands of Jews living peacefully in Iran. You'll find pictures of a smiling Ahmedinijad meeting with and hugging Rabbis and Jewish delegates. You'll learn that huge factions of orthodox Jews within Israel itself vehemently oppose Netanyahu and the Zionist leadership in Israel, principally on their aggression towards Iran and Palestineans. And maybe you'll even learn the verifiable science required to produce weapons grade nuclear material, the time it takes to develop, and just how far Iran is from achieving this ACCORDING TO INDEPENDENT INTERNATIONAL INSPECTIONS, were this even their intent.
What YOU are saying is "rhetoric": the repeated, unsubstantiated claims spoonfed to you by a media in the pocket of the same Zionist interests. Do you know who owns the AP, Reuters etc? Have you personally been to Israel to actually witness people "scrambling for gas masks". If Israel is surrounded by "regimes that seek to destroy it", some of which are already have nukes, and collectively far outnumber Israel, why hasn't it happened? US retaliation won't bring the dead back to life, so the idea that they want Israel destroyed but haven't acted, makes no logical sense. Do you have the capacity to filter the things you hear against logic and reason?
Israel is constantly provoking conflict and threatening nuclear war against these sovereign nations who seek only to exist without outside intervention. For that reason, admitting a disdain for Israel when asked, is the furthest thing from irrational barbarism. It is exactly what any of us would do under the same circumstances. Stop acting all perfect when you are clearly being led like a sheep to your positions. We've heard all this before and recognize it as someone else's script being regurgitated by you. Not a word of it is verifiable fact.
Dutch
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Great article. Back to being the Raimondo who lays the bare facts out there with minimal political slant.
That said, however, the fact is Benny Morris was not the first person to predict this escalation of nuclear tensions in the Middle East. These predictions came as early as 1999 from the writings of John Titor, one of the internet's oldest legends.
Titor claimed to be a time traveler who had lived through significant global events set to happen in the current time frame. While this was likely a flimsy cover for his true identity, he was clearly someone very much in the know on global affairs and correctly predicted major world events that have since happened despite seeming impossible at the time he predicted them. He even explicitly used the term "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in 1999 (were you familiar with the term then?).
I raise the point because 'Titor' predicted major conflicts starting in the Middle East (on the heels of a global financial meltdown) in late 2012 and early 2013. He described the conflict as becoming nuclear by 2015 and resulting in some 3 billion deaths globally. You can choose to believe this or not, and granted it sounds kooky, but there is no arguing that things now look to be headed this way. It is also important to note that he also predicted that Russia and China would take sides in the conflict and participate in the exchange of nuclear weapons with the US. Again whether or not yo believe this story, it seems relevant to consider how these countries would react to an Israeli nuclear strike on Iran. Do you think they would sit idly by while other nations lobbed nukes at each other? How about if the US got involved in the fray? However you feel about the threat these nations represent to us now, the fact is both have huge nuclear arms stores, and massive populations, and would likely take a side in the interest of self preservation. it is naive to think a US/Israel/Iran exchange of nukes would be an open and closed event. Russia and China have interests in all 3 places and would be compelled to protect them. This is a much more grave threat than anything this article alludes to. But any scenario described above would open the door for it.
These things cannot be allowed to happen. Events trigger events. Big events trigger bigger events. It is fundamental to the cause of mankind that people take off the blinders, get a grip, and unite to remove any and all players in this drama from the nuclear and political levers. The scenarios described in the story, scary as they are, only represent the opening salvo in what could become the end of mankind as we know it. There is not ever going to be a quick, clean, international or intercontinental nuclear exchange. Look at what has happened in Iraq. Events will surely trigger events. And at the end of that road lies no good for any of us. Weigh everything you know in your own mind and you'll agree. People need to act swiftly and decisively (not violently, just with strong resolve) to remove these role players and replace them with people who truly serve their populations' best interests. Here, in Israel, and elsewhere. Otherwise we are all discussing the end of times. Don't be fool enough to believe the situation isn't this serious.
Yeah, I know, I need to take my meds or whatever. Don't let this prevent you from really thinking about what I'm saying, and the greater implications…
Dutch
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 am
Popular or not there is validity to everything you've said. Who would deny this conflict is 1000 years old or more? For all I care they can nuke each other back to the stone age.
I think the prevailing opinion you are picking up on is that
1) one way or the other nobody wants the US stirring the pot further
2) in this day and age, beyond name calling, Israel is the common denominator in most of the military conflicts that have taken place in the region over the last 5 decades.
We all have people we hate and people who don't like us. But how often do any of us provoke a steel cage death match with them? One that makes collateral damage of people with no interest in the conflict.
This is the pivot point that makes Israel the bad guy for the moment. Should the people of Iran, most of whom don't have much love for their government, all be nuked, just because one politician called Israel a bad name? What about the many anti-Zionists in Israel who distrust their own government more than Iran? Do they deserve to have chemical weapons rained down upon them in retaliation for Netanyahu's acts of aggression?
Understand I'm asking these things in full agreement with what you have otherwise asserted. I do think the regional intolerance for Israel and vice versa, does lie at the core of this problem. But I also grasp that these are not universally held views, but rather views held by a small number of maniacs who happen to be in power. Therefore US, if it truly was the force for good it claims to be, wouldn't be taking any sides. But so long as it does, in addition to all the other mayhem it is up to in the middle east, Americans should rightly keep their focus on getting their own house in order. And tread lightly in getting involved in these age old and futile disputes. I think you, me and most everyone else here can agree on that point.
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Anthony Lawson
August 24th, 2012 at 2:31 am
I wish that commentators and others would to use diminutives for monsters like Binyamin Netenyahu, calling him "Bibi" is like calling a raging bit bull "puppy". It leaves one with a totally wrong impession of the kind of person he is.
Anthony Lawson
August 24th, 2012 at 2:31 am
I wish that commentators and others would to use diminutives for monsters like Binyamin Netenyahu, calling him "Bibi" is like calling a raging bit bull "puppy". It leaves one with a totally wrong impession of the kind of person he is.
Anthony Lawson
August 24th, 2012 at 2:33 am
Correction. Should read: I wish that commentators and others would not use diminutives for monsters like Binyamin Netenyahu, calling him "Bibi" is like calling a raging bit bull "puppy". It leaves one with a totally wrong impession of the kind of person he is.
james
August 24th, 2012 at 3:40 am
Northener, I tend to agree with you on the general thrust of your reply, but please keep in mind that most of the current state of affairs in the region is directly or indirectly due to the creation of a foreign entity in the M.E. This entity had the support of the developed world from the get go where the powers that be made sure everything is do to the advantage of this, lets say, tumor.
Ask anybody who is old enough and he will tell you there was absolutely no extremism before the early 70's. Even then, these were extremely marginal groups supported again by the powers that be to defeat Arab Nationalism. Even Saudi Arabia and its version of mad men were not even on the map before Afghanistan and the creation of Al-Qaeda by the CIA. But all changed after the liberation of Kuwait and re invasion of Iraq.
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Andrewp111
August 26th, 2012 at 7:55 am
First of all, nobody gives a rat's ass about the Palestinians. They are mere pawns in a greater game. Second, Iran wants power above all else. They want regional empire. They want to erase the wrongs of history or to die trying. Iran may be willing to sacrifice a large fraction of its population in an effort to get regional empire because it already has more people than it can sustainably feed. They need to either thin the herd or grab more resources.
I expect the Iranian war with Israel to be fought in Syria/Lebanon, at least at first. This makes much more rational sense than a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel, although events could very easily escalate to full nuclear war.
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