Grover Norquist Takes On the War Party
Conservative leader attacks Romney-Ryan for refusing to cut the military budget
Grover Norquist is a bit of a punching bag for both the Hollywood-DC left and the neoconservative right. On the left, he’s often held up as an example of everything that’s supposedly wrong with the conservative movement and the GOP: his “no tax hike” pledge is excoriated by the Huffingtonpost-MSNBC-TPM axis of Obamaism as typical of “know-nothing” conservatism. On the neocon right, he’s viciously attacked as an “Islamist,” a secret member of the Muslim Brotherhood far more dangerous than, say, Huma Abedin — in part because he’s an influential conservative married to an Arab woman. For both groups, he’s a bit of a Rasputin, with his weekly meetings of Washington-based conservative activists characterized as something between the right-wing equivalent of the Bilderbergs (or is that Bilderbergers?) and Opus Dei.
Now he’s gone and done something bound to induce paroxysms of rage — or disbelief — in members of both groups: he’s denouncing the newly-minted Republican ticket — particularly Paul Ryan and his infamous budget — for refusing to countenance cuts in the military, and he’s doing it in style. In a talk given at the Center for the National Interest (formerly the Nixon Center), he ripped into Ryan for refusing to consider cuts in the military budget.
First, some background: The Budget Control Act, passed in 2011, calls for “sequestration,” i.e. across-the-board cuts in both military and domestic spending in order to (eventually, in theory) balance the federal budget. The usual suspects have been decrying this, especially Republican hawks like Lindsey Graham and the powerful Buck McKeon, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, who want to increase military spending. Their solution? Close “tax loopholes” and end deductions to avoid sequestration. To our Washington grandees, any income they allow you to keep for yourself is a “loophole,” since they own you, body and soul — and they will close it if the alternative is giving up another war in the Middle East.
Norquist throws down the gauntlet at these spendthrift imperialists: “We can afford to have an adequate national defense which keeps us free and safe and keeps everybody afraid to throw a punch at us, as long as we don’t make some of the decisions that previous administrations have, which is to over extend ourselves overseas and think we can run foreign governments.” Washington can’t give marching orders to its own citizens with much effect, he averred, so why do we think we can do it in faraway Afghanistan?
He takes aim squarely at the Ryan budget, which has been adopted by the House GOP and is now at the center of the presidential campaign, characterizing it as typical of the Graham-McKeon spend-spend-spend mentality, which is an echo of the Bush years. Ryan’s proposed budget would increase military spending by $20 billion and is bereft of cost-cutting reforms. As Norquist put it:
“Other people need to lead the argument on how can conservatives lead a fight to have a serious national defense without wasting money. I wouldn’t ask Ryan to be the reformer of the defense establishment.”
Even in purely domestic terms Ryan’s budget is a farce: it projects a balanced budget in thirty years, and politically it’s a joke. He’s basically telling American voters they have to give up their Medicare and other benefits so that we can ensure the eternal prosperity of the military-industrial complex and maintain our overseas empire. And while Ryan is handing out goodies to the Pentagon, Graham and McKeon “are saying ‘can we steal all your deductions and credits and give it to the appropriators.’ The idea is that you are going to raise taxes on people to not think through defense priorities.”
Ah, but we know what are the priorities of politicians like Sen. Graham, he who hailed the “liberation” of Libya and his now agitating for overt US intervention in Syria. To the Grahams of this world, the slightest hesitation to meddle in the world’s many trouble spots is “isolationism.” In the US Senate, he and John McCain and Joe Lieberman function as the three harpies of perpetual war: whenever an opportunity comes up for increased American meddling, there is Lindsey the Conqueror, and his cohorts, butching it up for the cameras. He could care less about balancing the budget — unless it’s on the backs of little old ladies living on all the cat food their tiny Social Security checks can buy.
While the conventional wisdom in Washington is that sequestration would be a disaster, and that the cuts it would require would be “arbitrary,” as Josh Rogin writes in Foreign Policy, the reality is that there is so much waste and downright illegitimate spending in the military budget that the effect is bound to be beneficial. As Norquist says: “
“You will get serious conversation from the advocates of Pentagon spending when they understand ‘here’s the dollar amount, now make decisions. [Republican hawks] want to argue you have to raise taxes.”
“Here’s the good news. There’s a very small number of them. The handful of [Republicans] that support that are either not coming back or they don’t know yet that they are not coming back.”
Norquist, in his talk, endorsed a non-interventionist foreign policy and vowed to fight the effort to avoid sequestration by increasing taxes and leaving the military budget untouched.
Norquist has said this kind of thing before, but it’s the timing that makes it significant. We’re at the starting gate of what promises to be a hard fought presidential election, and the Republicans have just rolled out their Achilles — only to see one of the most prominent leaders of the conservative movement take a few well-aimed potshots at him. And it’s over what is basically a foreign policy issue: sure, Grover frames it as part of his no-new-taxes crusade, but as Garet Garrett so presciently put it in 1952:
“A second mark by which you may unmistakably distinguish Empire is: ‘Domestic policy becomes subordinate to foreign policy.’ That happened to Rome. It has happened to every Empire. . . . The fact now to be faced is that it has happened also to us.”
Garrett’s was the premier journalistic voice of American conservatism at a time when the neocons (or their intellectual ancestors) were still hanging out with Leon Trotsky. It was a conservatism that understood the idea of limits, and looked to the examples of Rome and Britain as warnings to be heeded rather than exemplars to be imitated. By the time Garrett wrote the above cited words, that conservatism was already losing out to invaders from the left, neoconservative “intellectuals” migrating rightward who took with them their world-saving “internationalism” while ditching socialist economics.
Garrett’s pamphlet, little read at the time it was published, he entitled “Rise of Empire.” Sixty years later, that empire is not only fully risen, but it shows unmistakable signs of decline and imminent fall. We are facing more than a “budget crisis”: bankruptcy is staring us in the face. We must choose between pauperism and cutting back on a world empire that is an albatross hung ‘round our necks.
This has the neocons in a panic: they would go bankrupt rather than see the frontiers of empire contract by so much as an inch. However, they dare not declare such a perverse proclivity out loud. Instead, they join with the left in calling for tax hikes so that we can afford to send an armada to the Gulf and celebrate the destruction of yet another Muslim country. Yet even here, they lack the courage of their convictions: “The guys who are saying ‘we’re not going to cut Pentagon spending but we want to raise taxes,’ they aren’t making a sale,” says Norquist. “They are saying it’s not a tax increase. It is, it is, it is.”
Of course it is, but Norquist’s critique of the Republican war-hawks isn’t just a green-eyeshades view. He launches a full-scale frontal assault on the Republican wing of the War Party:
“Bush decided to be the mayor of Baghdad rather than the president of the United States. He decided to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan rather than reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That had tremendous consequences.”
He challenges Romney as well, disdaining the GOP standard-bearer’s pledge to maintain military spending at 4 percent of GDP. This formulaic approach needs to be abandoned and replaced, he says, by a realistic assessment of our legitimate defense needs. Only then can we come up with a reality-based military budget. “Richard Nixon said that America’s national defense needs are set in Moscow,” Norquist opined, “meaning that we wouldn’t have to spend so much if they weren’t shooting at us. The guys who followed didn’t notice that the Soviet Union disappeared.”
They didn’t notice because doing so would have disrupted the smooth functioning of what Murray Rothbard called the Welfare-Warfare State — the massive post-war inheritance of the New Deal, which simultaneously created a welfare state at home and an overweening US presence abroad — an empire of satellite nations, protectorates, and far-flung military bases.
The politics of this system is based on a trade-off between the “left” and the “right”: conservatives get massive military spending in exchange for going along with tax hikes and increased spending on domestic government programs — and liberals go along with it because there’s a pay off, and also because a great many are just as reflexively hawkish as any Republican.
The fiscal crisis is
dramatizing how this works — and, in the process, outing the
Lindsey Grahams of the GOP as closet tax-hikers. I just hope
Grover’s prediction that they “are either not coming
back or they don’t know yet that they are not coming back”
comes true.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
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Johnny in Wi.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Good for Grover Norquist. The Empire will expire if it is denied the bloodsucking taxes that it requires to function. The country has been under the heal of warmongers for over 70 years. We are broke and our troops are broken. End all foreign aid and bring the troops home to defend these borders and shores. Think Switzerland, strong national defense, but they mind their on business.
JLS
August 14th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
"…something between the right-wing equivalent of the Bilderbergs (or is that Bilderbergers?) and Opus Dei."
What's Opus Dei?
JLS
August 14th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
"…something between the right-wing equivalent of the Bilderbergs (or is that Bilderbergers?) and Opus Dei."
What's Opus Dei?
jasonditz
August 14th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
the bad guys in The Da Vinci Code
tod
August 14th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
We're over 15 trillion in debt, we're are already bankrupt. Bankrupt, bankrupt, bankrupt! No one really gets it. You are BANKRUPT, period. We can't afford anything, We can't afford to keep our military overseas.Awe fck it.
Ben_C
August 15th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Norquist is a lobbyist…and arguably the best and most successful 'individual' lobbyist there is at present. Even so,he is an individual. Yes…he is one of the Democrats favorite scapegoats to blame all of life's problems on, but that doesn't mean he is responsible for what he's accused of. Speaking of Hollywood, does Bill Maher have any relevant political influence? If he has any at all, it almost certainly is not on the same level as Norquist. That aside,,I don't think when Bill Maher decries Obama as a 'Right-Wing Conservative' (which is a 'bad' thing in his mind), that, at the end of the day, Bill Mahar wont carry the water for Obama when it matters. I see this as a simliar sort of thing here with Norquist.
Is Norquist threatening to use his influence to back Obama if the Romney campaign doesn't 'shape up' on foreign policy? Is he threatening to back a third party or in some way sabotage Romney's run? If not, I don't understand what the 'concern' would be here from the Romney camp.
Where was Norquist in the run up to the Iraq war–or even in the immediate aftermath of the invasion–or even through the end of George W. Bush's tenure as President? I appreciate that Norquist is condemning the Iraq war policy decision over 9 years after it was made, but this accomplishes nothing positive for the Nation in reality… although it may benefit him politically in certain ways…
I remember seeing Norquist on C-Span not too long (a year, or so) after "Shock and Awe" and him making a disclaimer at the outset of his interview that he wasn't "an expert on foreign policy", so as to exempt himself from commenting on it… The main point he was trying to get across was that the 2% to3% Bush federal marginal income tax rate cuts were 'good' and that he simply wasn't qualified to comment on 'foreign policy' issues, along with the obvious significant current and future financial commitments they entailed, at the time….
This isn't about "right", "left", "center", "up", or "down" to me, and I don't really see him as a 'bad' or 'good' person…just a person with somewhat of narrow and limited focus. He's definitely smart enough to realize that the government spending now is simply unsustainable in the long term with the revenue side as it is today. One, or the other, or both, will have to give at some point. Cutting 'non-security' discretionary spending (or even eliminating it entirely) simply is not going to do it. This is something I would expect a child to realize; even so, I wouldn't count on ole Norquist to be an "non-interventionist" when it counts. Norquist is Norquist…and there are plenty of his 'kind' all across the political spectrum. I see these people as more of the "problem" than the 'solution'.
I'm sick of BSers… That's just me though…
Phil Giraldi
August 15th, 2012 at 4:37 am
Good for Grover. I recall that starting in 2003 when attacking Iraq was the flavor of the week Grover always made room in his wednesday morning meetings for folks like me who were against the war to speak and he continued more of the same when agitation to attack Iran started. We were not popular speakers in the mad dog atmosphere then prevailing (and still prevailing with Mitt and company) but Grover always gave us time and allowed us to make our arguments. The consequence for him was that the neocons immediately labeled him soft on terrorism and a crypto-Muslim.
mikeharry
August 15th, 2012 at 6:10 am
as long as the fiat american dollar is widely accepted and bernanke can "print" the digital dough to pay for the war games, this will go on IMO. The game changer is a crashing USD, spike in interest rates and a global repudiation of US DEBT. Its -a – comin' for a' that.
JLS
August 15th, 2012 at 8:01 am
oh…thanks Jason.
JLS
August 15th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Totally agree! I keep expecting China to pull the plug on it though and it never happens.
Anti_Govt_Rebel
August 15th, 2012 at 8:59 am
This article is a good example of the value of Antiwar.com. i did not know that Grover Norquist was not a typical republican war hawk, and i tended to ignore his anti-tax stands because of that assumption. Now i will pay a little more attention to him.
Thanks Justin!
Jaime
August 15th, 2012 at 9:13 am
The Opus Dei (God's work) is an institution within the Catholic Church. It's known for its conservative views and its undue influence in the Vatican.
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jeff_davis
August 15th, 2012 at 11:02 am
There are "stories" about the Chinese energetically dumping their dollars even as we speak, but not so precipitously and publicly as to cause the dollar to "crater". Obviously they want to get as much for their dollars as possible.
The worldwide move out of the dollar has begun.
MvGuy
August 15th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
No…. tod we are NOT bankrupt,… and as long as the government is able to print money … we won't ever be… What actually happens is that the dollar will lose value….. that it will take more and more of them for everything… Slow and not so slow decline is how it ends… We never run out, we become Zimbabwe…. with fresh million dollar bills to get an ice cream…. Didn't I write a similar post HERE yesterday…. ??? A lapse of memory on my part, a technological glitch, or was it deleted…….???
MvGuy
August 15th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
"The worldwide move out of the dollar has begun"
If this is actually true as jeff_davis states…….. it will be the real and absolute beginning of the complete end…….. Slow at first, but as more and more players dump and sell short…….. the dollar will lose it's pre-eminent status as THE reserve currency…. all OUR customers will start wanting to get paid in gold, Yuan or some "hard" currency…. when a gallon of regular hits twenty dollars, then the lust for world domination will abate… at least in the electorate…… Of course those who squandered America's position in the world for the power to tell the Paks what type of hats their women should wear…. they will be run out of politics…. Maybe it is even possible that there will be an honest investigation of 911 by investigators and science based analysis of that event not run by the crooked politician types that ran the previous one…. After all, it was the trigger to squander trillions and trillions…!!! And sell our souls to the torture ghouls who were never accountable to any laws…… Is there a Michael Chertoff in the house…???
Ben_C
August 16th, 2012 at 7:26 am
If we bomb Iran, I just hope Norquist can help facilitate another round of tax cuts immediately following. After all, he was partially responsible for bringing the Nation the 1st wartime tax cuts in US history. If, and when, the American people start associating tax cuts with initiating war, either consciously or unconsciously, we'll have the 'War Party' and the 'neo-cons' right where we want them… It'll make our bar charts and line graphs look all the more dramatic…while we ‘chip away;’, as we have slowly but steadily for the past couple decades or so, at the 'empire' with ‘tax-cuts for war’…
Ingenious really…
Ben_C
August 16th, 2012 at 7:26 am
If we bomb Iran, I just hope Norquist can help facilitate another round of tax cuts immediately following. After all, he was partially responsible for bringing the Nation the 1st wartime tax cuts in US history. If, and when, the American people start associating tax cuts with initiating war, either consciously or unconsciously, we'll have the 'War Party' and the 'neo-cons' right where we want them… It'll make our bar charts and line graphs look all the more dramatic…while we ‘chip away’, as we have slowly but steadily for the past couple decades or so, at the 'empire' with ‘tax-cuts for war’…
Ingenious really…
Justin Raimondo
August 16th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Thanks for compliment: this is exactly what we've been trying to do for as long as we've been around and thank you for noticing.
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Jared Myers
August 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Glad to see that Norquist is being consistent. I'm pretty sure the Pentagon could get by with about $1,000,000 less every year.
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