Marco Rubio and Our Wretched Destiny
Possible GOP vice presidential nominee comes out of the closet – as a neocon
The neocons are back. Indeed, they never really went away: instead, they just went to ground temporarily until the smoke cleared over Iraq, and now they’re right out front pushing war with Iran, "regime change" in Syria, and hailing Obama’s (and Mitt Romney’s) favorite foreign policy book as the Received Wisdom of the Moment. Sen. Joseph Lieberman may be on his way out of American public life – thank the gods! – but Sen. Marco Rubio is in the wings waiting to fill his shoes. In Lieberman’s introduction to Rubio’s foreign policy speech at the Brookings Institution, the tireless warmonger hailed the junior Senator from Florida as heir to the tradition of Reagan and Truman: he left out Scoop Jackson, but Rubio, in his opening remarks, was quick to fill the gap:
"In my brief time in the Senate, I’ve had the chance to get to know Joe, and learn from him. He represents a view of America’s role in the world in the tradition of Democratic leaders from Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman through John F. Kennedy and Scoop Jackson."
Jackson, of course, was the cold war era Democratic Senator from Boeing
Washington state famous for his belligerence, whose underlings populated the
national security apparatus of the Reagan administration and authored the infamous
fantasy-based "Team B"
assessment of Soviet military capabilities. These folks later came to be known
as the neoconservatives,
a right-wing sect that originated
on the far left and gave us the Iraq war under Bush II’s tutelage.
In any case, Rubio looks to be an energetic stand-in for Lieberman, who never fails to mobilize every cliché at hand to defend America’s role as the world’s policeman. In his opening, the Florida Senator and prospective Vice Presidential pick did not disappoint:
"I am always cautious about generalizations but until very recently,
the general perception was that American conservatism believed in a robust and
muscular foreign policy. That was certainly the hallmark of the foreign policy
of President Reagan, and both President Bush’s. But when I arrived in the Senate
last year I found that some of the traditional sides in the foreign policy debate
had shifted.
"On the one hand, I found liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans
working together to advocate our withdrawal from Afghanistan, and staying out
of Libya. On the other hand I found myself partnering with Democrats like Bob
Menendez and Bob Casey on a more forceful foreign policy. In fact, resolutions
that I co-authored with Senator Casey condemning Assad and with Senator Menendez
condemning fraudulent elections in Nicaragua were held up by Republicans. I
recently joked that today, in the U.S. Senate, on foreign policy, if you go
far enough to the right, you wind up on the left."
That’s a real knee-slapper, isn’t it? While Rubio won’t ever be known for his sense of humor, he may have a shot a becoming famous for his fatuity. For the idea that interventionism is "muscular," rather than a debilitating drain on our limited resources is yet another cliché rapidly wearing thin. How "muscular" can a bankrupt empire be?
Furthermore, Rubio makes it clear he knows nothing about the history of conservatism, which has only recently become a sounding board for the Teddy Roosevelt types and the "cakewalk" crowd who assured us the Iraq war would be a triumphant march to glory No doubt he’s never heard of Sen. Robert A. Taft, and is entirely ignorant of the pre-World War II history of the conservative movement – but why comment on a subject about which one knows nothing, especially in front of an auditorium full of policy wonks?
As for whether it’s our business to cavil over allegedly "fraudulent elections" in Nicaragua, one has to wonder why he isn’t more concerned about election fraud right in his home state of Florida. After Broward county, who are we to lecture the Nicaraguans?
Having concluded that "if you go far enough to the right, you wind up
on the left," a reasonably intelligent person might be expected to challenge
the veracity of these categories – but not Sen. Rubio, who goes on to complain
that even his constituents are challenging the wisdom of empire:
"And I found this sentiment not just in the Senate, but back at home
as well. For example, many loyal supporters back home were highly critical of
my decision to call for a more active US role in Libya."
Rubio’s constituents, who live in a state with one of the highest foreclosure rates in the nation, and are suffering horribly from the economic and social consequences of the Great Recession, are part of "another trend in our body politic," says the Senator, "one that increasingly says it is time to focus less on the world and more on ourselves."
How dare his constituents and loyal supporters care more about their foreclosed and way-underwater homes, their lost jobs, their crime-ridden streets and crumbling infrastructure, than about installing a "pro-American" Islamist government in Libya! Rubio is here to tell them what Harry Truman and Joe Lieberman would tell them, which is: Read Bob Kagan’s book! It’s all in there!
Ah yes, that book: the one our President has favorably referred to:
the author, Robert Kagan, is one
of Romney’s foreign policy gurus. Washington is bipartisan in its reading
habits as well as its foreign policy. The Kagan clan, which has made a family
business out of advancing the neoconservative policy agenda, is well-connected
in the Imperial City: their policy recommendations have never failed to argue
in favor of the most "muscular" expression of American "strength,"
which is invariably defined as military strength. In Bob Kagan’s latest infusion
of Kaganite wisdom, we are told we can continue to borrow money from the Chinese
to conquer pacify Afghanistan (and the rest of the world) because
everyone else is just as broke as we are, and there’s no one else to protect
and defend the "world order."
Kagan’s book is so popular in Washington elite circles because it flatters its audience. He’s telling them what they want to hear: without their pretensions to global suzerainty to sustain it, the world "order" would lapse into chaos. Republican and Democrat, "liberal" and "conservative," this is the shared assumption when it comes to American foreign policy. Any challenge to this orchestrated consensus is met with panicked outrage, and is considered so dangerous that it cannot be allowed to go unanswered. Which is why Rubio explicitly deferred his expressed "disagreement with this administration on foreign policy" in favor of the far more important task of attacking his constituents and loyal supporters who question his full-throated support for the President’s Libyan adventurism and the current enthusiasm for a repeat in Syria. Forget Obama and the election: as far as Rubio is concerned it’s time to go after those in his own party who share his constituents’ skepticism. Rubio tells us he is intent on
"Reminding people of how good a strong and engaged America has been for the world. In making that argument, I have recently begun to rely heavily on Brookings fellow, Bob Kagan’s timely book, The World America Made. Bob begins his book with a useful exercise: asking readers to imagine what kind of world order might have existed from the end of World War II until the present absent American leadership. Could we say with certainty that it would look anything like America’s vision of an increasingly freer and more open international system, where catastrophic conflicts between great powers were avoided, democracy and free market capitalism flourished, where prosperity spread wider and wider and billions of people emerged from poverty? Would it have occurred if, after the war, we had minded our own business, and left the world to sort out its affairs without our leadership?"
Rubio is young: he doesn’t remember the cold war except through the lens of some neocon revisionist historian. Without American "leadership," we wouldn’t have spent ourselves into bankruptcy fighting an international "threat" that withered away all on its own, and would have with or without the existence of NATO, the Berlin airlift, or such bloody exercises in criminal futility as the Vietnam war. As the libertarian economist Ludwig von Mises proved, in theory, in 1920, communism was doomed to fail on account of its own internal contradictions. In practice, it took so long for the monster to die of its deformities due mostly to Western support, including vital lend-lease aid during World War II. Having been handed the eastern half of Europe, the Soviet empire was having enough trouble digesting that enormous meal – and eventually choked to death on it. The Communist anaconda could hardly assimilate what had already been fed to it by FDR at Yalta, and was uninterested in making a serious attempt to absorb the western half.
Unlike the Trotskyists, who insisted on the hopped-up immediate goal of "world revolution," Stalin repudiated the orthodox Leninist "internationalist" doctrine in favor of building "socialism in one country." This, and not world conquest, was the avowed goal of the Soviet regime.
For a time, the Communists gained traction in the Third World, as we used to call it then, due to America’s insistence on allying with "anti-Communist" tyrants, notably in South and Central America – a textbook case being Cuba, where US support for the corrupt thug Fulgencio Batista provoked a nationalist backlash that catapulted Fidel Castro into power. We repeated our mistake in Vietnam, at the insistence of Scoop Jackson, apparently Rubio’s role model.
Yet for all the billions spent on the military, the huge apparatus of the national security state and the machinations of the CIA worldwide, in the end it was the impossibility of economic calculation under socialism, and not US government action, that brought down the hollowed-out Soviet colossus.
What if we had stayed home and minded out own business at the end of World War II – having saved the world from the Axis, and – one would think – earned the right to take a break from the job as world policeman?
While the construction of alternate histories is an inexact science, let’s just take the numbers – the billions in value that were sunk into "defending" the "free world" against a threat that never existed. The arsenals bristling with weapons, the armies ranged around the world, the international network of bases and airfields, the covert operations that spread their tentacles to every corner of the globe – the costs are so enormous as to be incalculable.
Now let us imagine an alternative timeline in which fear of a worldwide psychopathogical cult never attained much influence, and instead of pouring a huge proportion of our wealth into "fighting communism" we had instead diverted it to more productive uses – say, finding alternatives to fossil fuels, or a cure for cancer. Imagine all that capital injected into the private economy, instead of the centrally-planned semi-socialist economy of the military-industrial complex. I wonder if, in that happy world, Florida would be known as the foreclosure capital of the country.
Rubio hails the "world order" as maintained by the US because it supposedly reflects our values as a nation: yet key components of that order, such as protecting and advancing the interests of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and the emirates of the Persian Gulf, are not exactly bastions of liberal democracy. According to the Senator, our mission in defense of this American-enforced "world order" is to
"Face down its challengers, assist other peoples in attaining their liberty, keep its trade routes open, and support the expansion of free market capitalism that accelerated the growth of the global economy."
Aside from the irony of hearing about "keeping trade routes open" from the same people who want to impose draconian trade sanctions on Iran, someone ought to tell the Senator that what is expanding isn’t "free market capitalism" but crony capitalism, i.e. mercantilism, not only internationally but also in these United States. From Washington to China it’s all the rage. There never was any such thing as "free market capitalism" except as a theory: perhaps one day it will actually be tried, but until that day comes it’s clear Rubio is just saying things off the top of his head.
What I find very odd is that Rubio spends endless Reaganesque paragraphs hailing the unprecedented wealth and productive energy of the markets – at a time when the world is teetering on the edge of economic implosion, and markets are living in constant fear that the Big One is about to go off. Yet ideology always trumps reality for the neocons, and in this Rubio is certainly playing his role as their unofficial Senate spokesman to the hilt.
America made the world: that is the premise of these hubris-stricken ideologues. Has there ever been a conceit more overblown, more self-regarding, than this one? Such pretension invites ridicule, but the implications ought to frighten us, because if we made it – even if we really didn’t — then that means we’re going to fight to keep it. Rubio and the rising generation of neocons look forward to leading that fight.
Rubio neatly sums up the essence of the neocon creed in a single paragraph:
"What happens all over the world is our business. Every aspect of lives is directly impacted by global events. The security of our cities is connected to the security of small hamlets in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia. Our cost of living, the safety of our food , and the value of the things we invent, make and sell are just a few examples of everyday aspects of our lives that are directly related to events abroad and make it impossible for us to focus only on our issues here are home."
If we don’t maintain a global empire, we’ll have unsafe food and there will be no value to the things we invent, make or sell. This statement is entirely nonsensical, and since Rubio makes no attempt to justify it we can pass it by as we would ignore a burp or a bout of stuttering. He goes on to inform us that if we don’t stick our noses into every single small hamlet in the Middle East – well, then what? I can think of more than a few Afghan children who might still be alive today. Aside from that, however, how credible is this "it takes a village" "we are all One" nonsense coming out of the mouth of a supposedly hardnosed conservative Republican?
If the security of our cities is entirely dependent on how well we patrol the hamlets and caves of Pakistan, Yemen, and Afghanistan, then we might as well give up living in cities and revert back to the caves ourselves, because in that case we are doomed. The 9/11 hijackers, I would remind you, operated within our borders for years undetected: if we couldn’t ferret them out here, what makes anyone think we can achieve that goal in the mountains of Pakistan’s tribal territories?
The rest of Rubio’s peroration is focused on compiling a new and much longer enemies list, including not only the usual suspects like Iran, Syria, North Korea, and China, but also Nicaragua (you saw that coming), Venezuela (no surprise there), and two new additions, Bolivia, and Ecuador, who are accused of vague crimes.
Rubio never did get around to criticizing Obama’s foreign policy in his speech, at least explicitly: he was too busy attacking critics of interventionism in his own party, who went unnamed – but I’ll bet at least two of them have the last name of Paul.
Many have noted the lack of the word "Iraq" in Rubio’s speech: there isn’t a single reference to that signature neoconservative project. No need to wonder why. Iraq, in its many dimensions of utter failure, shows us virtually all the ways in which an interventionist foreign policy is bad for us and bad for those we presume to "liberate." The neocons don’t want to remember it, or even mention it: but the American people haven’t forgotten.
Rubio is a politician, and he will have to adapt himself to the war weariness – really, the imperialism-weariness – of the American people at this juncture in their history. Either that, or else he and his fellow Bushian Republicans are doomed to political irrelevance – and they’ll drag the rest of the GOP down to defeat with them.
Their unapologetic arrogance is epitomized by the way Rubio closed his speech, asking:
"Why does it have to start with us, some say. Why do we have to do
it?
"We find our answer in the words of a non-American. In an address to Congress
in 2003, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said:
"’I know it’s hard on America. And in some small corner of this vast country,
out in Nevada or Idaho or these places I’ve never been to but always wanted
to go – I know out there, there’s a guy getting on with his life, perfectly
happily, minding his own business, saying to you, the political leaders of this
country, ‘Why me, and why us, and why America?’ And the only answer is because
destiny put you in this place in history in this moment in time, and the task
is yours to do."
Is that cool Boca Raton condo you bought at the height of the boom being foreclosed
by the bank, and have your food stamps run out again? Has your job gone part-time
and have local tax assessments gone up in response to the lack of federal aid?
Are you wondering where your next meal is coming from? Well, it’s Destiny, my
friend. Destiny put you in this place in history at this moment in time,
and the task is yours to do – without complaining, and without focusing on your
own selfish desires rather than arming the Syrian rebels and saving the world.
It’s your destiny to be a poor schmuck who has to foot the bill in order to solve the world’s problems when you are overwhelmed on every side by problems of your own. Which means you have no choice in the matter: so just resign yourself to your fate and shut the hell up.
Good luck to Rubio in selling that to the voters.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
I’ve been utilizing twitter at lot lately, so if you want my off-the-cuff remarks and observations in as few words as possible, check it out.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Edward Snowden vs. the Sovietization of America – June 18th, 2013
- A Note to My Readers – June 16th, 2013
- Datagate and the Death of American Liberalism – June 13th, 2013
- Smear Brigade Goes After Snowden – June 11th, 2013
- Edward Snowden, American Hero – June 9th, 2013





skulz fontaine
April 26th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Hmmm, the "schmuck" would be Rubio, Because if he's listening to Joe Lieberman, the folks he represents in Florida have been sold one tainted bill of goods.
Johnny in Wi.
April 26th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
The Neocons always did love a lot of murderous old warmongers, Teddy Roosevelt, Wilson, their greatest hero Leon Trotsky, FDR, Truman, LBJ, and GW Bush. These chickenhawk intellectuals will fight to the last American drop of blood and dollar so that their lunatic world view will prevail. The trouble is that these intellectuals have been wrong for 100 years. WW1 led to WW2. WW2 led to a 50 year cold war. Now for the last 20 years, we are in a war on the ghosts of Hitler and Stalin and a fanciful war on Isalm. The Isalmic world has never been a threat to us if we hadn't invaded them and killed them in vast numbers. They came over here because we were over there.
BINSAFI
April 26th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Here 's another "Radical-Thought", from the FAR-WEST:
Lie-berman & Rubio, are a couple of MORE Reasons to ABOLISH this Senate!
We've Had-It-Up-To-Here, Enough is Enough!!
Peace, Love & Respect.
Orville H. Larson
April 27th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Senator Joe LIEberman (Zionist-Israel)–er, Connecticut–is a warmongering, Constitution-trashing, Israel-First swine. He ought to be shipped the hell to Israel–and told to stay there. LIEberman can take his latest chickenhawk liar–Senator Marco Rubio (Neocon-FL)–with him.
Piss on both of 'em.
CassandraSpeaks
April 27th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Let's resign as the world's unelected sheriff, judge, jury, jailer and executioner and cut our military budget by half. That would come to $300 billion, still more than double China's $143 billion, and they are the second place spenders.
An added advantage would be that we'd stop making enemies, so we would not have a terrorism problem, either.
Orville H. Larson
April 27th, 2012 at 12:44 am
If I could give the United States an enema, I'd stick the nozzle right in Washington, District of Corruption!
George
April 27th, 2012 at 4:27 am
As bad as Obama/Biden may be, I think Romney/Rubio may be worse.
richard vajs
April 27th, 2012 at 4:58 am
These labels that they give themselves – "interventionalist", neocon, hawk, globalist – it is all crapadoodle. All of this flowerly, babbling, hysterical theorizing about world leadership is just verbal loosening of the bowels Where the rubber meets the road, the only thing that matters to people like Lieberman and the willing whores like Rubio is "Is it good for Israel?".
omop
April 27th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Mr. Rubio is another in a long line of "Marvel comic books" schleps who populate DC…..at the present the US has a $5 trillion dollar national debt; close to 30 million American citizens are un-employed; 43 million Americans are on food stamps and so far the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost the USA $1,350,130,140,450 since 2001. Plans are to stay in Afghanistan till 2024.
Will Mr. Rubio in 2024 be still a Senator from Florida, or an ex vice President or possibly a President who faces a $10 trillion dollar debt; 50 million un-employed Americans and more dead and crippled Americans from wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan,Yemen, Somalia, Chad, Syria[?] and Iran[?]?
Kolya_Krassotkin
April 27th, 2012 at 6:59 am
As a conservative, I fear you are right. Among Obama-Biden and Romney-Rubio, at least there's Biden to inject some sanity into the conversation.
Andie Freud
April 27th, 2012 at 7:22 am
I know Justin doesn't usually respond to comments based on ignorance, but can anyone explain to me what the attraction is with twitter? Even the name sounds stupid (attn:Yahoo). The few times I've tried to access it, I see a bunch of #, and links to real posts with actual thoughts and arguments that require more than two sentences. I guess I'm just #obtuse #luddite without a #furshlugginer smart phone, but really, #WTF.
Great column as usual, though.
Grandpa out
dink
April 27th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Patrick J. Buchanan has a good article (Tomorrow's man – or Yesterdays?) about Rubio, and the twisted logic his statements entail. These interventionists of opportunity ( Politicians or writers( late Christopher Hitchens ) often seek a threat that is not there. Oh, to wish for 'a nation in more normal times' then all these endless interventions.
Strider55
April 27th, 2012 at 8:02 am
No need to abolish the Senate. Just return it to the status the Founders gave it (a check on both the House and the federal govt. generally) by repealing the 17th Amendment.
Benjacomin Bozart
April 27th, 2012 at 8:24 am
The Amendment was passed because corporations were buying legislatures as an anti-corruption move. Now corporations buy the Senators directly and eliminate the middleman. The corrupt Supreme Court won't help and the corruption seems to be accepted by voters who acknowledge the Congress is bought off. Until there is a true reform and peace movement nothing will change and that means people voting third party.
JSD
April 27th, 2012 at 8:25 am
One of Justins best columns in my opinion. I think Americas modern leaders are more arrogant and disconnected from reality then even the latter Roman Emperors. Even though it came to late at least they eventually adopted a defensive foreign policy. And as Justin has clearly shown the neocon take on how America created the oh so glorious modern world is as accurate as the bibles story on how God created the world in 7 days.
Benjacomin Bozart
April 27th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Good luck to Rubio in selling that to the voters.
It's working fine. It's the center of Romney's campaign.
DARoberts
April 27th, 2012 at 8:36 am
And to top it off, Marco Rubio does not meet the qualification of "natural-born citizen", as is also required of the Vice Presidency.
Now we know why the Republicrats did not want to examine Obama's eligibility.
Strider55
April 27th, 2012 at 8:43 am
These chickenhawk intellectuals will fight to the last American drop of blood and dollar . . .
Except their own, of course. Elitist hypocrites always emerge from carnage with their skins and bank accounts intact.
liberranter
April 27th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Tearing the Constitution (minus the BoR) to shreds and restoring the original Articles of Confederation seems to be the only reasonable step in the right direction.
liberranter
April 27th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Concerning the "shipped the hell to Israel" part, wouldn't it be WONDERFUL to give everyone like Lie-berman, Roehm Emmanuel, etc., an ultimatum: "Israel or the U.S. – pick one. Whichever one you pick is where you live and to which you give your undivided allegiance. Pick 'U.S,' and anything you do in an 'official' capacity that is clearly against the best interests of the nation gets you charged with treason. Pick Israel, and you're on the next plan to Ben Gurion, your U.S. passport permanently revoked."
I wonder if that would straighten some people out.
liberranter
April 27th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Make that "next plane to Ben Gurion."
Sorry.
RickR30
April 27th, 2012 at 9:18 am
One of the great problems with the American system is that is geared toward keeping the same people in power for decades. So we end up with the living dead in Congress who've been there for nearly a century. And hence a complete lack of fresh ideas, just the same crap, the same corruption. One of the things this country direly needs is a generational shift. The baby boomers have been a complete disaster for this country. We need to accelerate the change, civility, development, morality of this country.
But when younger people get the chance and end up like Obama and rubio- it's very troubling and disappointing. These people are young, dumb, easily corruptible, without a single original idea in their empty heads, show no signs of leadership (which can be defined as being unwilling to become the next tool to be used by the neocons.) Is there no one who can resist the charms of the senile retard lieberman?
I'm frankly disgusted by that quote from that criminal blair. Who the hell is he to tell us what our destiny is. What the hell does he know. This people are so arrogant to tell us that we have to sacrifice ourselves for their pointless pet projects. So the global system is a zero-sum game now? Americans have to suffer so that others don't? Americans have to spend themselves poor to guarantee some alleged order? Sickening.
liberranter
April 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Which is of course the option that every reasonable American has already chosen. Unfortunately, what' s reasonable and good for the American people is poison to the conniving, murdering klepto-plutocracy that rules over us with an iron fist.
liberranter
April 27th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Biden??! Sanity??! You're kidding, right? Biden is the Democrat version of Dan Quayle. Every time this idiot opens his mouth, it's a sure bet that something idiotic will come spewing out of it.
liberranter
April 27th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Listening to the nonsense pouring forth from Rubio, I imagine that he has a poster of himself somewhere in his bedroom in which he is dressed in a Superman costume, superimposed on a background of the beaches of Havana, rescuing his beloved ancestral Cuba from the clutches of the evil Castro. That heroic act being utterly beyond even his wildest dreams, he compensates for it by imagining himself to be the push-button liberator of all lands not yet under the thumb of Pax Americana.
Justin Raimondo
April 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Twitter is great for me because it facilitates research: if there is something I haven't read on a subject I'm writing about or intend to write about I may find it on twitter. It also increases readership — always a good thing — and gives me yet another outlet for stuff that will not find its way into my regular column. But yes, the name turned me off initially, too.
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April 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am
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ML3
April 27th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I recall the sound of this pukebag slithering his way up from the depths of GOP Hell In Florida a few years back, touted as a real up and comer in servicing reptilian elitists. Here is the epitome of a soulless and phony young neocon wimp who would have no problem making up stories and advancing lies to get young Americans killed in pointless wars on behalf of bloated American elites, that he certainly wouldn't have the stones to go and fight in himself.
Johnny in Wi.
April 27th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I forgot to put in one of their biggest hero's, the old mass murderer and war criminal Winston Churchill
dink
April 27th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Its because of ' our (conservative)' failure to fight the Romney, Santorums (and all the other money-hungry (Netanyahu)) AIPAC pleasers who define the Republican platform) TO THE VERY END. We see that Ron Paul's percentages are going up. As soon as Santorum left the race, Ron Paul's numbers go up. Social conservatives are not happy with Romney, and they are divided. Yes, the political press are fixated with the usual political horse race. They want a nomination ASAP and have always said Paul didn't have a chance since the beginning.
Romney is not elected yet. Obama always takes the less than Republican foreign policy intervention. Obama steals our civil liberties. Are the so called leftists among the Obama amen corner so naive to think future presidents will not use the laws he has created against our civil liberties in the future?.
dink
April 27th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
He wouldn't have to sell it to the voters. They will be voting for the president. According to former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovski in his first book*, the Israeli right wing always made a play for the vice president to be used as leverage against the President. (We already know the kissy Relationship to Israeli Likud that Romney has)
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Ostrovsky
dink
April 27th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
I like reading the twitter part.
Jim
April 27th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
It's ironic that the boy senator from Florida would mention John F Kennedy in a speech touting endless foreign meddling and endless war. The evidence suggests JFK was murdered by the MIC and the CIA for considering retrenchment and detente with the Ruskies. That would not have been good for the bottom lines of the major defense contractors and the budgets of the Pentagon and CIA.
Jaime
April 27th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Considering such social catastrophe, Americans are very resilient. In SA, people had already revolted and produced a revolution and/or guerrillas.
MoT
April 27th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Bingo! He always gets a pass because of his use of the English language but the reality is he was a drunken self serving bastard.
MoT
April 27th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Yep! There is nothing that says we and our children are to be enslaved to that document for all eternity when the elites view it as simple toilet paper.
MoT
April 27th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
… "so just resign yourself to your fate and shut the hell up." LOL! As I've said for years. If freedom in America means nothing more than shutting up and doing as you're told then that's not freedom that's slavery.
JohnDowser
April 28th, 2012 at 2:29 am
"if you go far enough to the right, you wind up on the left"
That's a common experience for people caught inside a bubble.
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April 28th, 2012 at 5:57 am
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Kevin Bjornson
April 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Justin, Justin…your hero Robert Taft did really exist, but he was not as you suppose.
Robert Welch, founder of the kooky Ron Paul–Murray Rothbard front, the John Birch Society,
several times spoke highly of Senator Taft. But remember, the JBS has it's roots in admirers
of Gen. Patton, assassinated at the end of WWII on orders of Gen. Eisenhower. You may recall,
Eisenhower withheld the fuel Patton's tanks needed to finish off the Third Reich before Stalin
could take over half of Europe. Under your foreign policy, Stalin would have had all of Europe,
as the US would have stayed out.
Here is Robert Taft, who shows here he is not the isolationist fantasy-figure you imagine:
–he foolishly favored US membership in the League of Nations
–he courageously supported US war efforts after Pearl Harbor
–he foolishly supported the Marshall Plan
–he courageously supported Israel (and military aid to it)
–he courageously called for the unleashing of Chiang ki-chek
mick
April 29th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Stalin deserved all of Europe. As the Soviets lost 25 million people. The USA half a million.
Without them Germany would have won, hands down. Every time we faced the Germans they kicked our butt, until very late in the war when the Germans were already finished. Eastern Europe sided with the Germans and got what losers in wars always deserve. Eastern Europe regimes were basically fascists except for Czechoslovakia. Communists were the only people who provided real resistance to the Germans as Partisans.
DanD
April 29th, 2012 at 11:41 am
The opiate of posting a truly visceral comments about what we find so objectionable about our environment … aaaah, but not quite orgasm.
How the internet in Amerika is currently being managed is no less than political heroin. The vast majority of Americans who may protest will never protest in the streets because they've already "protested" online. I mean, isn't that enough?
DanD
Rubio's VP « LewRockwell.com Blog
April 29th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
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JSD
April 29th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Keep speaking truth to power mick. Stalin only launched unprovoked invasions of all the Baltic states, Finland, and Poland. So clearly those Eastern Europeans who sided with Hitler out of fear of Stalin deserved what they got. Just like the Serbian Chetniks and Polish nationalist who resisted the Nazis but Stalins crony's killed after the war since they weren't communist enough. Im glad to see another antiwar poster who appreciates the spoils of war. I say since theTaliban provided sanctuary to Al Qeda over 10 years ago Afghanistan deserves to be occupied by us forever. As for Iraq, well heck we lost a lot of soldiers there so Id say we earned the right to occupy them to.
Phyllis Bennis | ANOMALY RADIO
April 30th, 2012 at 12:41 am
[...] degradations like those lately perpetrated by US soldiers in Afghanistan; why neoconservatives like Marco Rubio conveniently ignore the Iraq War disaster in speeches justifying an interventionist foreign policy; [...]
Outsider
May 2nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Since this great article, Obama has now signed a deal to keep us in Afghanistan until 2024! Where are us non-interventionists to go. The Repubs continue to scare me more than does Obama, as I continue to hope that he will somehow keep us out of war with Syria & Iran. Imagine where we'd be today if superhawk McCain had been elected. Anyway, Romney needs to lose the election & the Repubs need to rethink their globalist agenda. The best that could happen would be Repub control of both houses to check an Obama 2nd term. Me, I'll vote for Gary Johnson unless Ron Paul goes 3rd party.
justsaynoemore
May 4th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
I once attended Chamber of Commerce Day in Tallahassee and we got to sit in chambers and then-Rep. Rubio addressed us. He told this long story about how there was a survey going on across Florida, asking Floridians for the top "100 Ideas" to help the State. He was so enthusiastic, and to ensure the 100 Ideas were implemented, he had spoken to the next Leader of the House, and the Leader of the House after that one, and they had pledged to finish this project.
Well, I never heard another thing about it, but I will never be able to explain my horror that this kid would talk about promises made years out to people who haven't even been re-elected yet, and Rubio didn't get it. He had no idea what his words were conveying – dictatorship, no democracy, no reason to vote because the votes are already rigged four years out.
Or the Rs have Florida so locked up its the truth. That was when I started fearing Rubio, and his continued Republican fast track success makes my fear grow bigger every day.