Massacre As Metaphor
American serial killer symbolizes US foreign policy
The massacre of 16 Afghan civilians by a still-to-be-identified American soldier limns the course of American foreign policy in the post-9/11 era. Think of it: he went out in the dead of night, at three in the morning, armed to the teeth, and snuck into a village where sleeping children were cradled in their beds. Taking careful aim, he knelt and started firing: one after another these young girls and boys had their heads blown off. One news account described a bullet hole right between the eyes of one young victim. That’s some pretty good shooting there, soldier: all that training, financed by the US taxpayers, paid off! His work there finished, our serial killer went to another house, where he repeated his grisly work. After it was over, he gathered the bodies together and set them ablaze, in a display of "shock and awe" and cleansing fire, as if to simultaneously wipe out the evidence of his crimes and appease his Wagnerian sense of the dramatic.
If only the television crews had been there to witness this American Götterdämmerung: it would have made an award-winning shockumentary, the story of a square-jawed over-deployed American soldier and straight-as-an-arrow patriot who just wanted to serve his country and wound up becoming a mass murderer.
The Western media is already running this clichéd narrative up the flagpole, and there are no doubt plenty of Americans ready to salute. After all, we’re being told, he had a "breakdown" – a rite of passage for every normal American these days, whether the precipitating incident is a divorce, impending bankruptcy, or the sudden discovery that their tattooed –and-pierced daughter is having a sex change operation right after she aborts her out-of-wedlock baby. Having a breakdown is now a sacred and legally-protected "right," right up there with the "right" to healthcare, cheap gas, and a federally-insured home mortgage, a "Get out of jail free" card every American gets to play at least once in their lives. So, you had a "breakdown" and massacred 16 civilians, most of whom were young children? Don’t worry, my friend – the "safety net" will catch you.
As a good citizen of America’s "therapeutic state," this soldier embodies the idea that every trauma, or major discomfort, gives us permission to commit acts that would normally be frowned upon. If we apply this operating principle to the realm of foreign policy, what we come up with is the exact course of American foreign policy during the last decade.
It’s fair to say America experienced a collective "breakdown" in the days and weeks after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Normally rational people became bloodthirsty lunatics, and the War Party cashed in bigtime: as Seymour Hersh pointed out, the neocons pulled off a coup d’etat at the very heights of the US government and took the country on a rampage from Afghanistan to Iraq and beyond. After more than a decade, the wilding continues unabated under President Obama. The recent Afghan massacre is just a microcosm of the mass murder of innocents carried out by our drone campaign, and in the blood-drenched sands of Iraq – carried out with the same well-trained precision our American serial killer employed in slaughtering his young victims.
The Unknown Soldier used to be a symbol of all our noble, self-less, American heroes-in-uniform, who put their lives on the line to protect the nation: now that we have entered the age of imperialism, he has become the Unknown Serial Killer, whose identity is kept secret as he’s rushed out of the country to escape the wrath of his victims’ families.
The Afghans are demanding that we leave their villages, and speed up the supposedly planned "withdrawal" that will still leave thousands of American troops occupying the country. Politicians of both parties are urging us to "stay the course," with such "tea party" darlings as Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown joining hands with Democrat John Kerry and the Obama administration in support of the war.
The Unknown Serial Killer isn’t the only one around here having a breakdown: our entire political and economic system is currently experiencing a massive breakdown, one that threatens to upend the country and plunge us into a dark age from which we may not soon emerge. His actions reflect the larger crisis of political and moral coherence gnawing at the very foundations of American civilization and threatening the peace of the world. How else could our politicians be clamoring for more war when the American public wants nothing to do with it? How else could I be hearing a Fox News "legal analyst" named Kimberly make excuses for a child-killing maniac on national television?
Defense chieftain Leon Panetta made a special trip to Afghanistan hoping to tamp down the furor, telling reporters the killer could receive the death penalty – but I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were him. That may be the verdict that bests serves justice, as well as the national interest, but the self-justifying pop-psychology that rules the national consciousness will win out in the end, of that you can be sure. The last thing the Obama administration wants is to make a hero out of this murderous maniac, which is precisely what would happen if prosecutors sought the death penalty. The Republicans would make him into a political icon, the fitting symbol of their bloodlust and their whole approach to the world – and that’s terrain the President won’t tread.
They’ve already leaked that the killer had some kind of a brain trauma during his service in Iraq: don’t tell me they aren’t gearing up to declare his brain injury made him do it, and warehouse him in a military hospital – far away from the media.
There’s no doubt this President would like to get out of Afghanistan with dispatch, and for the same reason he’s skeedaddled from Iraq – to clear the decks for an all-out assault on Iran. We’ll need those troops, after all, in order to fight Netanyahu’s war, the regional conflict the Israelis and their American lobby are shoving down the throats of American policymakers. America must be the first empire in world history to be effectively dominated by one of its "client" states. In this case, however, it looks like the client has taken over the business.
Our post-9/11 "breakdown" is far from over: indeed, America’s unleashed wrath is hardly spent. With the entire Middle East in our sights, as well as the former Soviet Union, our leaders are on a decades-long rampage that will only be stopped if ordinary Americans rise up and put a stop to it.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





skulz fontaine
March 15th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
"… our leaders are on a decades-long rampage that will only be stopped if ordinary Americans rise up and put a stop to it."
Yeah, figure the odds of that happening. Very well said Mr. Raimondo.
JBeale
March 15th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Excellent column.
"It’s fair to say America experienced a collective "breakdown" in the days and weeks after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Normally rational people became bloodthirsty lunatics."
We should have negotiated a peace settlement with the Muslim nations then and there. Their grievances were all legitimate. "Thanks, guys, for bringing to our attention the cruelty, murder, and injustice that is being perpetrated in your homelands by our federal government."
We still could accept their offers of peace. But it would involve freeing ourselves from the Israeli parasites.
musings
March 15th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
As brilliantly written as this essay may be, with touches like the comparison between the heroic Unknown Soldier and the Unknown Serial Killer who may have brain trauma or have experienced a fugue state due to a mental breakdown, this basically plays into the story we have been given. Since stories given by the military under pressure have a tendency to change their orientation like a pierced teen who want to be another sex (cf. Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, and many more), I might question the facts which place only one person on the scene, if only because a few Afghans-of-no-importance seem to think they saw more murderers (for instance while lying wounded and pretending to be dead).
But you got one thing right, something we are reluctant to admit as a nation since so many of our forms seem to keep working the way fingernails and hair still grow after someone dies: 9/11 led to a coup d'etat.
BINSAFI
March 15th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Right-On Bro!
The Solution, will ONLY come from the STREET!!
Peace, Love & Respect.
Robert
March 16th, 2012 at 12:19 am
I used to view our men and women in uniform as true soldiers, but now must look at them with suspicion knowing that there are thugs amongst them. Maybe they are all thugs; I don't know, and I sincerely hope not, but I cannot afford to take the chance. The trust is shattered.
There are people out there that complain about the economy, and the 1%. It is these wars that is tearing our country apart. Maybe we ought all start doing our little part of whatever we can to stop these sicko wars for it looks like our politicians will not.
Yonatan
March 16th, 2012 at 2:26 am
"With the entire Middle East in our sights, as well as the former Soviet Union" … don't forget Africa, China, Antarctica (like chess, you gotta look a few moves ahead).
John V. Walsh
March 16th, 2012 at 4:58 am
Good column.
I would take it a step farther and point out that the resistance to the American occupation is a just cause; and whoever the resisters are, they are patriots trying to rid their country of an occupation that is violent and brutal, as all occupations are. (We are told that they are the "Taliban" or "terrorists" just as the Chinese Communists in the 1930s were labeled as "bandits" and in the 1970s Nelson Mandela and the ANC were labeled as "terrorists" and even now Hamas is considered "terrorist" by the MSM.)
See: http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/03/the-afghan-peop…
richard vajs
March 16th, 2012 at 5:17 am
America is terminally corrupt. The same rot on Wall Street and In Washington is on Main Street and even in the trailer parks on Copperhead Road. I wouldn't count on any salvation coming from the "Streets" – it will probably have to come out of the ashes of a destroyed evil empire. Forget reform; look to rebirth.
F.A. Hayek Fan
March 16th, 2012 at 5:38 am
Every time an incident like this occurs I get an education on the moral degeneracy of the American people. On Yahoo news, the comments section after the story broke was filled with Americans rejoicing in these deaths. Members of political forums on both sides of the aisle are praising the soldier and advocating that his actions be the policy of the United States. With evil like this running amok throughout the country I cannot see how the US will not eventually die a violent death at the hands of the rest of the world.
F.A. Hayek Fan
March 16th, 2012 at 6:20 am
but now must look at them with suspicion knowing that there are thugs amongst them. Maybe they are all thugs; I don't know, and I sincerely hope not, but I cannot afford to take the chance.
And just think, they are coming to a police department near you (and me).
JLS
March 16th, 2012 at 7:21 am
"our leaders are on a decades-long rampage that will only be stopped if ordinary Americans rise up and put a stop to it."
Then it won't be stopped. Ordinary Americans have no more influence over what their government does than citizens of the Soviet Union did over theirs.
MvGuy
March 16th, 2012 at 7:46 am
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!….OUCH…..!!!!!!!!!!!! Eh tu musings…??? WTF………
["9/11 led to a coup d'etat."] ………… NO musings, 911 WAS a coup d'etat…. and YOU should know that and STOP reinforcing the "legend" that the crazy Muslims who did 911 made us do IT..!!!!! Even Uncle Sam's trillion $$$$$$$$$ cover-up fund can't hide all the lies, distortions… destroyed evidence, secret annex of 911 commission cover-up whitewash report which was edited by the perpetrators themselves after their no-oath appearances…….. Wouldn't you know that we may now be finding out that the Yom Kippur war was also another false flag affair too… "What Really Happened in the “Yom Kippur” War?".. http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/02/22/what-reall…
IIt is getting difficult to summon to mind ANY war honestly embarked upon…… WTF…!!! Just think of it this way, it was a package of expediences to accomplish policies WE think is on our best interests" The WE being the Neocons and their oil, MIC buddies…!! Think Michael Chertoff, naked body scanners and Michael Hayden the NSA director who heard and saw NOTHING 911 relevant, and instead of being fired, he got top job….. LOL…
johnnyreb
March 16th, 2012 at 8:14 am
You hit the nail on the head, brother Beale.
Ike_Hall
March 16th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Does anyone remember the graphic novel "The Watchmen"? How a faked alien invasion brought the planet together? 9/11 could have been that moment, and it was for a brief while until the Bush Administration decided to operate outside their remit.
Strider55
March 16th, 2012 at 8:45 am
I'm afraid you're right. While I admire Ron Paul's principles, the sad fact is even he couldn't repair the damage or root out the corruption if he became president. He would find himself in the same predicament as Gorbachev in the USSR — trying to reform a system that is corrupt beyond all hope of reform. Ironic that as a result of overcoming the USSR, America has in effect become the USSR.
Still, there's the hope of rebirth, but it will take the same kind of collapse and breakup — the Stars and Stripes joining the Hammer and Sickle on history's dustbin. Once the cataclysm is over and the dust has settled, freedom-loving people can stake their claims to various parts of the former USA, while the freedom-haters occupy the others and finish driving them into the ground. As we here in Dixie are fond of saying, "the South will rise again," perhaps with Ron Paul as its first president. Or if Texas decides to re-assert the independence she won from Mexico in 1836, Ron can be that new republic's first president.
Peter
March 16th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Having a breakdown is now a sacred and legally-protected "right," right up there with the "right" to healthcare, cheap gas, and a federally-insured home mortgage
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Please keep this an antiwar site and stop trying to stuff neo-liberal free market idealogy down our throats. There are other site were you can express your free market views.
General Casey
March 16th, 2012 at 9:56 am
We have to be careful because we can’t jump to conclusions now based on little snippets of information that have come out. I am concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our soldiers
As great a tragedy as this was, it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well.
Our diversity not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that's worse
Strider55
March 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
They're already there. Check out my comment to Justin's March 12 column regarding cops in the reserves and Natl. Guard.
charles caruso
March 16th, 2012 at 10:40 am
The Big Change didnt start with 9/11.
It started with 1991 when the Russkies fell on their faces.
If the Soviet Union were still around, none of this crap would have happened.
I mean Grenada, Panama, Serbia, Iraq, Afghan etc.
Lets hope Putin brings back some stability to the world.
Strider55
March 16th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Well, ordinary Americans had just as little influence over the British government in 1776, but still managed to throw off those shackles, despite the fact that there were at least as many die-hard loyalists as secessionists.
Those Americans, of course, were made of much sterner stuff. Awhile back I read a blog that said where Americans were once wolves in the defense of their freedoms, they are now sheep. Still, the massive increase in gun ownership the last four years is cause for optimism. It tells me the wolves are awakening, and at least some of the sheep have re-discovered their inner wolf. All that's required when the SHTF is for the committed sheep to stand in the corner — which is what they're best at anyway.
"I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces." — Etienne de la Boétie
MvGuy
March 16th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Don't depend on others, especially outsiders to solve our problems…….
Jaime
March 16th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Great article indeed Justin.
liberranter
March 16th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Many, MANY of these clowns are addled by steroids, PTSD, and other mental illnesses and are just waiting for a "turd" (as cops nowadays frequently refer to those of us who pay their salaries and whom they are supposedly "protecting and serving") to step out of line so that they can unleashed a torrent of deadly violence on even the flimsiest of pretexts (knowing that their asses are covered from above).
GStorm
March 16th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Truth is many of the ordinary Americans who fought in the Revolutionary War were not paid consistently and came home to find their farms foreclosed on. Some continued the revolutionary spirit against the new government but other than having the new masters toss them the bill of rights, they were mostly jailed. And then, recall the Sedition Act, which the original Supreme Court upheld unanimously, permitting free speech to be punished, the Constitution allowing only that the speech not be prevented.
liberranter
March 16th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I wouldn't count on any salvation coming from the "Streets" – it will probably have to come out of the ashes of a destroyed evil empire. Forget reform; look to rebirth.
Precisely. Even a cursory and casual look and listen around you reveals not a grassroots resistance to the status quo by principled freedom lovers, but the emergence of the Idiocracy satirized in Mike Judge's 2006 movie of the same name.
liberranter
March 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Regarding the second half of your post, if you're so upset at people bringing up these topics, why did you reiterate them, thereby guaranteeing renewed discussion of same?
A very interesting and creative way to troll, no doubt about it.
toJBeale
March 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
"Thanks, guys, for bringing to our attention the cruelty, murder, and injustice that is being perpetrated in your homelands by our federal government."
You mean like siding against the Serbs in Bosnia and helping to rip away Kosovo. Yea, we really treated the Moslems bad on that.
WashingtonDC goddamn
March 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Check out the disgusting spectacle of our Hollywood movie-star heroes clawing for a spot on the Obama 2012 War Wagon. As if we had a nation at peace.
toJohnV
March 16th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
We are told that they are the "Taliban" or "terrorists" just as the Chinese Communists in the 1930s were labeled as "bandits" and in the 1970s Nelson Mandela and the ANC were labeled as "terrorists" and even now Hamas is considered "terrorist" by the MSM.
It's called point of view. To many Moslems Bin Laden is a freedom fighter. To his targets he is a terrorist. Ditto with the US. If the Moslems see the US as a terrorist, fine, that is their right. Why would one expect opposite sides to agree on terminology? George Washington was either a hero Founder or a treasonous rebel. Your point of view determines your choice of adjective.
As an analogy, think of public discourse in the US. Whites who commit crimes against minorities are labeled racists and accused of committing hate crimes. Minorities who perpetrate similar actions on whites are not. Some agree with this, others don't.
james
March 16th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
20 people mostly women and children died on the hands of American soldiers and you talk about your diversity? You are either on the wrong forum or the wrong dimension. Please tell me what are you smoking.
wars r u.s.
March 16th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
I agree with Peter. I didn't know there were "saftey nets" out there that would somehow help mass murderers. We get it, you're a Libertarian, but please.
A. Smith
March 16th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
I believe he is using the exact words of one General Casey in November 2009 in the wake of the Ft Hood shooting. Your puzzlement is understandable and many felt the same way when Casey originally uttered them in 2009.
Justin Raimondo
March 16th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I meant this in the sense of a moral "safety net," and as a commentary on the inability of anybody to take responsibility for anything, whether it be their own physical survival or their ethical status. So, yes, there are indeed safety nets out there for mass murderers: "he was drunk," "he was upset with his wife," "he had too many deployments," etc etc.
wars r u.s.
March 16th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Wow, I can tell all my friends Justin replied to my comment. You made my day and I'm serious. But c'mon man, apples and watermelon.
John_Muhammad
March 16th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
There is a line in the film "The Beast"- oddly enough, an Israeli film about a Soviet tank crew lost in Afghanistan and chased by mujahideen- in which one of the Soviet tankers is talking with another about a village they had crushed, and he says "It's hard to be a good soldier in a rotten war".
That pretty much sums up the whole rotten experience we have created for ourselves in this ill-conceived and poorly executed Middle Eastern expedition. We can crow about our fleeting successes and how we've 'spread democracy' in the region, but the fact still remains that our military is having a profound identity crisis: we no longer know if we're the Good Guys or the Bad Guys any longer. Sadly, we have to think what makes more of an impact on the Afghan locals and contrast that with the war as presented on the evening news: in short, what will people remember when all is said and done? Will the Afghan people remember that one soldier who passed out candy and coloring books to the kids, or will they remember the decade of sleepless nights wondering if a drone was going to launch a Hellfire missile into their home at midnight? Will the American public remember the faces and broken bodies of the soldiers who return from the field, or will they remember the parades held afterward (featuring, presumably, the veterans who can still walk)?
When the US quits Afghanistan- and it will, just like every other invader- what will we, as a nation, have gained? More importantly what will we, as a nation, have lost?
One final obscure quote and I'll end this rambling commentary. In the game World of Warcraft (yes, I play) one of the Horde leaders speaks this line, which our civil and military leaders- and all our soldiers in this current madness- would do well to learn:
"Honor- no matter how dire the battle, never forsake it"
John_Muhammad
March 16th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Diversity, presumably, does not extend to allowing stressed-out, brain-damaged, over-deployed soldiers to be in the ranks and allowed anywhere near deadly weapons.
Unless, of course, you extend that definition (arguably a correct assessment) to all our combat troops.
John_Muhammad
March 16th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I have to agree with you on this, to a certain extent. Without having anyone to checkmate us every so often, the US has gone "off the reservation", militarily and politically speaking. The Soviet Union, bless their hearts, at least kept us honest. (Okay, okay, stop laughing- you know what I mean)
John_Muhammad
March 16th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
The old cliche' is true: One man's terrorist is another man's patriot.
Watch the 80's movie "Red Dawn" and tell me in which category you place the Wolverines. Then watch it again, but consider the Cubans and Soviets to be Americans and NATO, and the Wolverines to be local Afghan fighters- yes, even Taliban, and see if your original choice stays the same. That alone will speak quite eloquently as to 'point of view' discussions.
shookems
March 16th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
musings,
glad you brought this up because few are talking about it. At least the Associated press or Reuters pressed the issue somewhat about many Afghans insisting there were more soldiers involved.
Just the crime itself could not be carried out by one guy. We many never see the guy or know his name, which will only reinforce the obvious imo.
This particular crime looks like there is an ongoing cover-up of an even larger scale massacre or crime
shookems
March 16th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Justin Raimondo,
You may have seen the headline by now of the soldier that murdered these kids and women and men.
I just saw it on Fox while I was viewing their latest poll (from another antiwar article)
(I don't want people to think I hang out at Fox!)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/16/source…
shookems
March 16th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
I still think there was more involved in this but we will probably know for sure what happened. I hope they prosecute this guy to fullest and if found guilty (I still believe in honoring innocent til proven guilty)
shookems
March 16th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
hit the submit button too soon…
….if found guilty hope he gets maximum punishment
MoT
March 16th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
DC will not let go willingly. It's appetite is ravenous and unless it is no longer fed blood and treasure it will never change. You have to starve it to death or cut off its head. Texas made the fatal error of, first of all, joining the evil Union and then siding with the losers of Southern Secession, and therefor, in Washingtons All Seeing Eye, it can no longer lay any claims of independence based on its past history. If it had done neither of these missteps it would be far better off. Today? Well, it could and should do so to finally put the kabosh on DC's machinations. The problem is there are far more fascists navigating the halls of power within Texas than even most Texans would care to admit. Having lived there for over half my life I can attest to this fantasy so many of them harp on about how "independent" they are.
MoT
March 16th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
The entire Revolution was essentially a sham. Powerful and mendacious British citizens sought to build an American version of the British mercantilist system on the other side of the Atlantic. The only difference being that instead of having to share the wealth with the crown overseas they, the elite that is, got to keep all the golden goodies. Irony of ironies is that taxes actually went up under an American government and never went down to the levels previously. So much for all the flowery rhetoric and lies within that tired piece of lying parchment.
W_ThePoster
March 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
An air attack on Iran could be sufficient to justify an American re-invasion of the Iraqi South. This time, they think, they'll get it right with no press at all and drones killing anything that moves along the Iran Iraq border. Israel safe at last. yuk.
jt kong
March 17th, 2012 at 2:25 am
your essay was excellent except that at the end it disregards the historical record of british foreign policy for hundreds of years. to believe anglo-american foreign policy is dictated by israel is to believe israel coerced the allied powers, principally britain, into created it in the first place. israel's purpose in the global chess game, is to divide the middle east so that the arab states including iran cannot unite into a single block. while this division no doubt benefits zionism, its primary purpose and the reason for israel is to further anglo imperial power throughout the region. blaming israel for america's foreign policy is like blaming the bullets for the murders of the 16 civilians in afganistan.
Montaigne
March 17th, 2012 at 4:07 am
My belief is, that the US did have a forknowledge of the planned terrorism attacks on Sep. 11th,2001. That they did everything to reinforce that event – keeping security off on that day, and preparing the buildings with explosives to have them go down in a splendid and ravishing and awe inspiring fashion.
The manipulation of US public sentiments have been the primary policy means since about 1900, perhaps since Lincoln. And getting more and more sophisticated and professional, also abroad.
eric siverson
March 17th, 2012 at 6:05 am
I hope you are wrong , Although I do believe Bush knew before hand the planes were up to no good . He just did not dare shoot them down becuase of the potential policial liability of shooting down U. S passenger planes . the democrats would have crucified him in the press and he would have never won the presidency . That would have been to bad , becuase he would have not been able to protect us for 4 more yrs .
Elias
March 17th, 2012 at 6:52 am
This latest Afghanistan massacre may turn out to be a Haditha copycat mass murder case.
Wikipeidian
March 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
The experts at Wikipedia categorize Sgt Bales as a spree killer, not a serial killer.
pshr
March 17th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Yes, I have always believed that one of the west's primary objective is to keep Islamic societies subjugated. The bitter truth is that they have been succeeding so far.
We wait for divine intervention.
REED RICHARDS
March 17th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Justin,
Sorry, but the amerikan masses are too stupid to put a stop to the imperial mass murder campaign being waged by the asylum states government. Fortunately for the neocon fascist murderers, the rest of the world, (Russian and China above all) are extremely slow learners. No, the only thing that is going to stop this rampage is if the rest of the world, Russian and China above all, say, "That's it, enough". Unitil the rest of the world makes that choice, tighten your bootstraps because the death march to oblivion is just beginning……………
"our leaders are on a decades-long rampage that will only be stopped if ordinary Americans rise up and put a stop to it."
REED RICHARDS
March 17th, 2012 at 8:40 am
At which point this killer and his unindicted co-conspirator confederates will walk away free men, just as they did in the Haditha Iraq massacre…………………
Tim
March 17th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Worthless dollars to doughnuts, this serial killer will have it easier than Bradley Manning.
Gerald
March 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
"to believe anglo-american foreign policy is dictated by israel is to believe israel coerced the allied powers, principally britain, into created it in the first place."
The Semites did coerce Britain and the Allies into creating Israel. Read up on Chaim Weizmann et al's lobbying of Great Britain during WWI and the intense pressure put on American presidents from Woodrow Wilson to Harry Truman to support the Zionist project. You don't seem to know the history.
JBeale
March 17th, 2012 at 10:16 am
I am referring–obviously–to the theft of Palestine and the subjugation of the Palestinian people, the subjugation of the Egyptian people, our murder of Lebanese and Somalis, the military occupation of Saudi Arabia and de facto usurpation of its government, the murder of nearly 1 million Iraqis by bombings, destruction of infrastructure, and killing sanctions, hostility toward Iran, military occupation all over the Arab world.
But our rulers are as anti-White as they are anti-Muslim. The action in Bosnia was an opportunity to weaken one group's(the Serbs') strong White identity, without any significant risk to the Zionist entity.
Janessa
March 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Justin, I found the American reaction to this Afghan slaughter so chillingly disturbing. Your article is brilliant and gave me hope.. If the average American makes excuses for this? I find that people try and rationalize every shocking tragedy. Are they arrogant or has the country given up any hope of normalcy? I believe the latter. Either way no other country looks up to the USA as a great nation anymore-even though there are many courageous citizens. The two world war soldiers would be in complete disbelief as to what their countries' attitude towards other nations has become.
musings
March 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Okay, it WAS a coup d'etat, and I really don't believe any of the official story, okay? My iconic moment? Women in hairnets flipping burgers on an outdoor steam table for the people removing debris at the Pentagon. I can't get those 1940's Pearl Harbor era hairnets out of my mind.
musings
March 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Now that we've seen "him" and heard his story about "the rage of Achilles" where he loses it over a buddy whose leg is taken by a land-mine, it still isn't a credible story. If anything it offers a motive for the troops to retaliate (perhaps as they have been accustomed to doing) when they thought they had gotten rid of all the Taliban and their supporters, and had allowed the villagers to return recently. Perhaps they decided there were still people around who wished them ill (surprise, surprise), and could never be pacified. So they "sent a message" — mostly to the top man, the village elder, by wiping out his dear ones.
Shackleford
March 17th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I don't think you know what you are talking about. The soldiers of WW2 did some pretty awful things as did all soldiers in pretty much all wars on all sides. The difference today is that it is much harder to conceal.
BTW, in case anyone cares, on March 15th, 13 women and children were killed by a Taliban IED.
musings
March 17th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
That may be true in the Pacific with the Japanese, although island-hopping was real combat.
My father's letters from Italy have just come into my hands. He was fighting not Italians there but Germans, and his mother was German-American. I think that probably makes a difference: the ethnic similarities tend to keep some of the hostility on a lower level. I did see something he told his parents about taking Germans as POWs and then taking all their money, watches, whatever they wanted. He actually sounded a bit ashamed of that. He said he felt he'd been initiated into "highway robbery", something which as a middle class American was revolting, even if he'd killed some Germans already. I believe that in retaliation for a massacre by Germans of American troops at the Battle of the Bulge, there were prisoners shot while in custody. And as we know, Dresden was said to be in retaliation for Coventry, but it was a British action, and they considered Germans generational enemies (more than did Americans).
So I think the reason to atrocities have climbed has to do with the third world war theatres.
musings
March 17th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Typo: I meant "the reason the atrocities have climbed has to do with third world theaters of war"
Shackleford
March 17th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I think what comes into play is not the 3rd world theatre, but the duration of the conflict and what's at stake for both parties. The longer the conflict the more chance there is for soldiers to know of friends and loved ones who have been killed. The more at stake, such as the survival of a nation, the more one side feels the need to lash out which causes the other side to retaliate in kind.
For example, I don't think there was much hatred in the Falklands War of 1982. The war was extremely short, there were not many casualties and neither Britain nor Argentina was threatened. There just weren't the conditions necessary to generate that type of hatred.
In the US Civil, where it was brother versus brother, we had major atrocities. Not to pick on Johnny Reb, but read about Bill Anderson. He captured a train with 23 Union soldiers going on leave. Unarmed, he took them off the train and executed them in cold blood. Of course the South thought their 'nation' was at stake and the war was relatively long with major casualties, conditions that breed that type of hatred.
Bottom line, this event in Afghanistan is not unique. It just happened at a time and place where stuff like this can no longer be concealed.
B_B_B_B
March 17th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
A "breakdown" isn't a get out of jail card for all americans. It, like many things, depends on who the american who had a breakdown is. Just like the sympathy doesn't play for those foreigners that have a breakdown and attack the empire it only works for particular americans as well.
The media is full of guilty and not guilty who are to be shown no sympathy or even basic justice because they are different from the 'norm' or have not conformed in some way or another. From this emotional and unprincipled way of judging actions comes many of the present problems.
musings
March 18th, 2012 at 6:22 am
A propos your statement about honor – I read something during the Vietnam War/social revolution in the US – I think Katherine Hepburn said it about Spencer Tracy and his cronies in praise of some inner self restraint which never seemed to desert any of them (even if they got drunk a lot): "There's a point beyond which they do not go." She seemed alarmed that this wasn't true of a later generation. I'm not sure what she meant, except to say that the loss of decency which brought on the outrage in this village in Kandahar province wouldn't have been possible for some people, no matter what.
During the MyLai massacre, there were people who would not shoot the civilians, would not obey orders. In the Milgram Experiment at Stanford where people were told they were giving enough shocks to kill someone, a few stepped out of the paradigm and questioned it, refusing to carry through.
Do some people keep their honor no matter what?
I look on some of the soldiers as deluded into believing they are defending the US by going to the Mideast. They completely bought into the neocon post-9/11 rationale, but only as defenders who were making sure another such event could not happen. I don't believe it happened as they think it did, and I don't think their enlistment in the circumstances was wise although some I am sure were motivated to honor those killed on that day by wearing the US uniform and doing battle against those they believed had attacked us. Even so, some like Bales seemed to have forgotten what might have been their original purpose, or made it too specific (defend Americans, treat others like dirt).
From my perspective, I am not surprised that false premises should take us this far into chaos, and will perhaps take us even farther if war with Iran remains "on the table". There will be more grisly killings and less difference between US soldiers and the old Soviet ones who took whatever they wanted from the local populace. I hear the Afghans are saying that the killers in Kandahar raped a couple of women during the incident, before they killed them. How very likely. It would tend also to contradict the blind, drunken state the killer seems to be saying he was in as part of his defense.
"A point beyond which you do not go" — "Honor – no matter how dire the battle, never forsake it." Because the hero can so quickly become the coward, not because he runs, but because he no longer defends the helpless, but takes advantage of them, to achieve a personal satisfaction.
musings
March 18th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Makes sense when you consider that the Ottoman Empire was the great power in the region, that it allied with Germany in WWI, and that it lost to Britain and its allies and shrank back. Also, Britain as an industrial nation, wanted the oil in the region (cf. Lawrence of Arabia). So yes, setting a wedge into place was definitely what they wanted, although British Zionism goes back well into the Victorian era (cf. George Eliot's novel, Daniel Deronda).
musings
March 18th, 2012 at 6:28 am
That's probably because we don't know what else he got away with. There's a curious story about an operation he took part in while in Iraq.
musings
March 18th, 2012 at 11:04 am
But you must believe no one else was involved because you believe that the actions of the US military in identifying one soldier is sufficient. I am skeptical if only because of the circumstances, because of at least one eyewitness (a boy injured in the attack), because of what the locals say, and because of Karzai's belief or need to say that more than one was involved. So the basis of any belief in this situation is kind of shaky for those of us away from the scene.
shookems
March 20th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I didn't see this. I was on yahoo commenting after the story broke. In fact, this story, because it has been in the media has created some harsh condemning by Americans. Yahoo news also has a load of provocateurs for these stories and there is heavy censorship at yahoo. Political forums would be committing suicide by advocating massacres, as anyone would be. This comment seems really out of place.