The "trust gap" between Israel and the US, which I wrote about on Wednesday, is widening even as I write. Here‘s Ha’aretz:
"Officials in both Jerusalem and Washington acknowledge a serious lack of trust between Israel and the United States with regard to the issue of a possible strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. A senior U.S. official who is involved in preparing Netanyahu’s visit to the United States – and who asked to remain anonymous – said intensive preparations are underway to guarantee the success of the meeting between Netanyahu and Obama and to bridge this lack of trust."
What’s taking the special-ness out of the "special relationship" is the showdown between President Obama and Benjamin Netanyahu, which will be reaching its climax when the latter comes to the US next week. With the Israeli propaganda campaign reaching significantly higher decibel levels of late, Bibi is upping the ante with fresh demands, declaring through intermediaries that the new joint US-Israeli policy has to define several "red lines" Iran must not cross.
The Israelis define that fateful boundary as Tehran developing a nuclear "capability" rather than actually building a nuclear arsenal. It’s a crucial distinction that underscores the logical disconnect at the heart of the Israeli case for war. After all, any one of a number of human beings has, for example, the capability to commit murder: however, this does not make a convincing case for preemptive execution.
American reluctance to go along with such hysterics and launch a third war in the Middle East has the Israelis in a lather. Ha’aretz reports Netanyahu complained bitterly to American emissaries, including a delegation of "senior" US Senators led by John McCain, about certain US officials who have dared to speak out publicly against going to war with Iran. He surely named Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs, who told Fareed Zakaria war with Iran would not be "prudent." It’s well-known senior military figures are opposed to a war with Iran, and the rank-and-file are probably even less sympathetic to the prospect: that’s why anti-war presidential candidate Ron Paul has garnered more donations from members of the armed services than all the other candidates combined.
How dare our generals, our soldiers, sailors, and airmen – you know, the people who will actually have to fight in Netanyahu’s war – speak their minds on the matter! Why, it’s an outrage! On the other hand, it’s perfectly all right that billionaire gambling casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, who funds Netanyahu’s far-right Likud party, is also pumping millions into the campaign of Newt Gingrich – and, he says, the eventual Republican, whoever it is (minus Ron Paul) – while loudly proclaiming his goal of advancing Israeli interests and promoting war with Iran.
This double-standard epitomizes the current Israeli approach to the outside world, including not just the long-suffering Palestinians but now even including Israel’s American benefactors. "According to sources," Ha’aretz informs us,
"The lack of trust between Israeli and U.S. officials appears to stem from, among other things, a mutual feeling that the other country is interfering in its own internal political affairs. Netanyahu suspects that the U.S. administration is attempting to turn Israeli public opinion against an attack on Iran, say sources.
"Meanwhile, they say, the Obama administration suspects Netanyahu is using Congress and the Republican candidates in the presidential race to put pressure on Obama to support such a strike."
This framing of the question is risible: as if the Americans have their own "American lobby" in Israel with power equivalent to that wielded by AIPAC in the US. In any case, it doesn’t look as if Israelis are all that enthusiastic about going to war with Iran. A recent poll shows most Israelis don’t want to go it alone, with less than 20 percent supporting an Israeli strike. The number in favor rises to the mid-forties only if the US joins the battle, as Kevin Flower, reporting from Jerusalem for CNN, points out.
In short, without a pledge of support from Washington, Netanyahu won’t be able to sell his war even to his own people. His only recourse is to ratchet up his American fifth column, and they are certainly busy these days, what with running full-page ads in the New York Times smearing their opponents, as well as running at least one Republican presidential campaign.
We aren’t supposed to talk about the "Israel-firsters," i.e. the well-funded network of pundits, thinktankers, and powerful politicians who act as the Likudists’ Praetorian Guard in the US. Pat Buchanan was excoriated as a "hatemonger" for accurately describing Congress as "Israeli-occupied territory," yet his prescience was underscored by the sight of a claque of US Senators meeting with a foreign head of state in order to undermine the policies of their own government.
We know who our enemies are, because they make no bones about their antipathy. Our friends, on the other hand, need to be closely watched, and none more so than the Israelis. This is true for all sorts of reasons, but the one I want to focus on here is their apparent insight into how foreign policy is made — and how to decisively influence the making of it. In brief, they seem to understand the central thesis of what I call libertarian realism, the idea that domestic politics rather than objective circumstances on the international front are the determinative factor in shaping policy. Put plainly: it isn’t how much of an actual threat Iran represents so much as how many influential people they can mobilize behind the War Party’s banner.
What this means, in practice, is that the Israelis are making an all-out effort to influence American policy in any way they can. As Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Dan Meridor told a press briefing:
"I need to remind myself that America is a sovereign country. Everybody has his own, every country has his own decision making process and everybody can takes its own decision."
Meridor needs to remind himself because no American will do so: no one in Washington, that is. Our laws regulating the activities of foreign lobbyists are not so strictly enforced when it comes to Israel’s lobby in the US. Indeed, they are not enforced at all: AIPAC, a Washington powerhouse, is exempt from the Foreign Agents Registration Act, in spite of the fact that two of its top officials were indicted for stealing US secrets. AIPAC’s Washington office has been raided by the FBI twice. Yet they still maintain their immunity from the laws which govern all other organizations and individuals who lobby on behalf of foreign governments.
Why is that?
The Washington think tanks and policy outfits are crawling with Israeli front groups, from the outfront neocons of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD), which seems to have originated as a joint project of the Israeli Foreign Ministry and several wealthy supporters of Israel, to the Saban Center at the Brookings Institute, funded by toy magnate and Israel-Firster Haim Saban, which plants the Israeli flag firmly in "centrist" territory. In tandem with AIPAC, and Christian dispensationalists of the John Hagee variety – who wave Israeli flags at their rallies, and believe war with Iran will bring on the End Times and the Second Coming of Christ – these myriad groups constitute an effective fifth column in the United States, a reliable cheerleading section for whatever policy initiative Tel Aviv wants to achieve at the moment – including a war in which Americans will die in "defense" of Israel.
The reality is that this war – Netanyahu’s war – will be anything but a defensive war. Iran is not now building a nuclear weapon [.pdf] nor is it likely to do so as long as IAEA inspectors are combing through its nuclear facilities. Those same inspectors, one notes, are forbidden from entering Israel’s nuclear sites, which certainly do house a great deal of weaponry. There is no "existential" threat to Israel emanating from Iran: all the threatening emanations are moving in the opposite direction.
Brushing aside the rhetorical veil of the "existential threat," the Israelis’ real objective – the culmination of the old Zionist dream of a "Greater Israel" – is clear as day. With the Americans taking on the Iranians, the IDF will take on Tehran’s local proxies, including but not limited to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Under such circumstances, it is not hard to imaging the IDF taking the opportunity to extend Israel’s borders, if not "from the Nile to the Euphrates," as Yasser Arafat claimed, then well beyond the occupied territories.
Is this a war aim Americans need to die for?
Netanyahu’s war will be a war fought for Israel, started by Israel, and benefiting only Israel. As for us, we will suffer a series of economic shocks, not just oil shock but the shock of a much-accelerated financial crisis hastened by the conflict. To say nothing of the shock of discovering that our fighting men and women have been turned into the instrument of a foreign power – and all without a peep of protest (or a real act of resistance) from any of the leaders of the two major parties, including our own President.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
Israel is a sensitive subject for many, and in view of the lengths the pro-Israel Thought Police will go to silence their critics, talking about them in this way is a risky business. We don’t balk at taking that risk, however, because Antiwar.com is not beholden to any pressure group – and especially not to one acting as a mouthpiece for a foreign government. We’ve come under a lot of fire for this, but frankly we wouldn’t have it any other way. The Israel lobby is one of the biggest and most powerful pressure groups in the War Party’s grand alliance, and we cannot hesitate to say so – or else we fail our readers as well as ourselves. We say it because it’s the truth: and here’s another fact – we can’t continue to say it without your support.
The truth needs to get out to the American people, but that truth is being obscured by a very powerful Lobby and a campaign of vilification aimed at war opponents. The Lobby has virtually unlimited resources, while we depend on you, our readers and supporters, for the financial support vital to our success.
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Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013
- Boycott Israel? – May 9th, 2013





mick
March 1st, 2012 at 10:37 pm
This whole situation is out of control. If we are pushed into war by the likes of McCain and Graham, Aipac and other Israel Firsters we need to have some treason trials ASAP. We can start with members of Congress and the Senate who have sold their own country down the drain. AIPAC has got to have something they are blackmailing these crooks with. That is the only explanation. I cannot believe just the not getting reelected can damage their sense of loyalty to this country?? To become traitors, how sickening!
Ben_C
March 1st, 2012 at 11:32 pm
I personally believe a War with Iran will not, in fact, benefit "Israel" per se; be that as it may, I agree with the general point a conflict between "Israel" and "Iran" is none of the "US's" concern. We simply cannot continue to bail out Israel. The more Israel continues to do things such as count calories that go into Palestine, the more "tension" there will be in that region. 'Wrong' is 'wrong'—and 'wrong' is generally recognized and accepted throughout the world as such. The governments in the region in question typically use the wrongs committed against the Palestinians to their own advantage–whether these 'concerns' are sincere or simply political is irrelevant. Israel is, after all, a supposed "democracy". The "Israeli people" have the form government they want, and the "leaders" they desire. "Elections have consequence". I fully support a 'political asylum' program for all Israelis who disagree with their government's policies and want to leave Israel and move to the US.
Duglarri
March 1st, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Also relevant is the fact the Netanyahu's own government is on the point of collapse over an utterly insoluble issue: the secular Russian-based immigrant parties object to the fact that the ultra-orthodox are exempt from conscription. This is a rock and a hard place that Netanyahu doesn't want to go. Stirring up international disaster is a great way for him to avoid dealing with the looming collapse of all the cards at home.
John_Muhammad
March 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 am
"" the culmination of the old Zionist dream of a "Greater Israel" ""
Lebensraum, much? Looks like the NSDAP is still in town, just wearing a different uniform this time.
@Unforgiven_01
March 2nd, 2012 at 5:18 am
I've tried and really tried to find an answer to the hold isreal has over our government, but nothing fully explains it. Just floors me.
Kolya_Krassotkin
March 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 am
America's leaders must choose: Do they side with the people of the United States and with their interests or are they Israel-firsters? If they are Americans first, then tell Bibi, "No!" and begin to work to normalize relations with Iran, something Iranian leaders have long sought. If they're Israel-firsters, let them resign the offices to which they were elected, move to Tel Aviv and be among the first IDF members into Tehran when Bibi launches his war.
tomofsnj
March 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 am
It is amazing to listen to those the cry about Syria and are silent on Gaza. Is there any people on the planet more abused than the people of Gaza. How many times have the cry they are firing rockets on us without the note that they are shooting rockets into land we stole in the 1967 Israel war of aggression. Things will continue until the USA falls so badly that AIPAC just most to the next host. AIPAC is a fair weather friend. As long as the moeny continues you can be sure AIPAC will be there
tomofsnj
March 2nd, 2012 at 5:50 am
It is more than just Netanyahu's government falling. It is a situation that Israel is facing a real civil war which will see the secular and orthodox shooting real bullets at each other. This problem existed in 1948 and some dumb government official decided lets just pay them to play in the corner. The problem is the orthodox do nothing but have babies. Now thanks to the money given them the Orthodox now have become a large group. One the larger scale the waster USA taxpayers dollars have funded the approaching civil war in Israel. It will be interesting to see how many of the dual citizen dicid that they would rather live on the banks of the hudson river over the jordan river.
tomofsnj
March 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 am
You are correct but the AIPAC member control the money which controls our elections. We need to eliminate money from politics. Can anyone tell me why a sitting elected official should be allowed to spend one cent on getting reelected? First it is not in our interest to keep a person in the office too long and second if that person cannot get elected on his record then just let him go. I would eliminate 10 percent of a office holders pay every election he/she wins. I just do not thing we are served by political junkies who cannot hold real jobs.
John V. Walsh
March 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 am
Benefit Israel? Israel is an Aoartheid regime as Jimmy Carter reminded us.
Decent people should welcome whatever weakens and eventually brings down the Apartheid regime just as we did in the case of South Africa.
Boycotts are the first step as with the Krugerrand. And support for resistance in Palestine as was done for the ANC in the days when it fought with arms against Apartheid. Of course in those days Mandela was called a terrorist. History tells us how wrong that was.
sherban
March 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 am
Raymondo wrote:"Netanyahu’s war will be a war fought for Israel, started by Israel, and benefiting only Israel. "Maybe so but the benefice is not see ,according with the polls, by many in Israel.I want to quote something from Ilan Pappe's book :"The ethnic cleansing of Palestine".Pappe quoted from Ben Gurion's diary (18 July 1948):"We will establish a Christian state in Lebanon,the souther border of which will be Litani River.We will break Transjordan,bomb Amman and destroy its army and then Syria falls,and is Egypt continue to fight we will bombard Port Said,Alexandria and Cairo.This will be in revenge for what they(the Egyptians,the Aramis,the Asyrians) did to our forefathers during Biblical times".Now that the Purim is close i think that Bibi the demagogue who said even in 1995 to US Congress "that time is running out" regarding "Iranian threat" feels ,maybe,that he may revenge some problems from the Biblical time and ,this is even more blatantly,the doubts roused by President Ahmadinejad on holocaust.
musings
March 2nd, 2012 at 6:39 am
Taking revenge for things down to "Israel" (i.e. the Jewish people) in prior millennia cannot be a true motive. But according to the thesis which says things are always about the domestic scene, and taking into consideration internal hostilities in the nation state of Israel, such "revenge" would be intended to play as a story for domestic and, in the case of the Bible, US consumption. The resulting response by Iran, if it is attacked, would then unite Israel as everyone takes to their bunkers and ceases troubling the Likud leadership. It would be 9/11 on steroids, which for a time united the US around a person who won the presidency in what came down to a Supreme Court decision. As I understand the Bible, in spite of what Ben Gurion may have written, the plot to kill the Jews of Persia was foiled and Haman was hanging for it, while Pharoah suffered all those plagues and had to let the People go with Moses. What's to take revenge about? Unless of course you imagine God didn't give a big enough gift and the stories are not stories of triumph but of defeat. Nobody can make up for such an inferiority complex, not even God.
MvGuy
March 2nd, 2012 at 7:00 am
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Nelson_2008
March 2nd, 2012 at 7:16 am
Yesterday, Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his team released their findings re Obama's birth certificate, and it is utterly damning. The full video is now on youtube; watch?v=F1wiGDYPALI
Starting at about 35 minutes into the video, the investigator reveals that they even looked into INS archives (on microfilm) of people coming into the U.S. from abroad…and guess what? For some reason, some records for August 1961 are MISSING. Can it get any more damning than that?
musings
March 2nd, 2012 at 7:54 am
Who cares? The birthplace never disqualified Romney's father, George, from having a go at the Presidency. The birthplace did not disqualify McCain. Does anyone doubt for one instant that Obama's mother was an American?
What kind of camel's nose are the arch-conservatives trying to put in the tent? That if even one parent is not "of American blood" the kid is not American? Or something anti-immigrant? Maybe if one parent comes on a visa you aren't really, really American.
My ancestors came over on the Mayflower (as did Obama's). He's a soul brother. Back off you parvenues. We came to stay. You'll go back to whatever country your ancestors came from in steerage if you don't watch out and are hoist by your own petard. Perhaps we can dig up that old indenture and find out that it wasn't ever paid for adequately. Perhaps you owe me money with interest from the eighteenth century to now. No telling what we might dig up to make you less than a 100% genuine American. Once the process starts, it can get ugly.
Bob
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:08 am
You Repuke partisans are such clowns.
Here's a crazy idea – instead of ranting and raving about imaginary conspiracies, how about nominating someone normal who can beat Obama in an election? Or have you already purged everyone who isn't a slavering mouth-breather, already?
Nelson_2008
March 2nd, 2012 at 9:23 am
Knucklehead, this isn't a "partisan" issue. if Obama is a fraud, then it's not just Obama that's implicated, but lots of other people had to be involved in perpetrating the fraud and covering it up.
It proves (to those who need more proof) that our whole system of government is not only grossly corrupt and rotten to the very core, but “conspiratorial”, if you will; it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that we have a “deep government”. This is why it’s critically important to expose this issue.
Nelson_2008
March 2nd, 2012 at 9:31 am
Why don't you look at the video before you open your mouth and prove your ignorance and stupidity?
There's nothing "imaginary" about a fraudulent "President" fighting a fraudulent "war on terror" based on a fraudulent terrorist attack of 9/11.
There's nothing "imaginary" about the same fraudulent "President" proffering fraudulent documents to fraudulently gain access to the Office of U.S. President, to implement an anti-American agenda, on behalf of his handlers, which revokes everything the Founders and Framers fought for.
Sorry chump, but what we have here is a shadow government, and Obama's fraudulent documents prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
baz
March 2nd, 2012 at 10:26 am
can you identify someone "normal" for us to vote for sir? Ron paul is the only one who may qualify as a human. I will leave the definition of normal to you
shadyfeet
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:09 am
Unfortunately support for "resistance" in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq etc is not working out so well for us and will do nothing but keep us bogged down in the region and help create more enemies. While I feel bad for the Palestinians, the continued fighting and dying is not helping. America needs to bring her troops home, stop taking sides and fix herself. By continuing to take sides we create friction over there and here. just my opinion, it's an America first selfish opinion.
shadyfeet
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:14 am
It's not the money, it's the people who take it.
liberranter
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Our current fundraising drive has been the most difficult we’ve ever experienced: in all my 16 years of doing this, I’ve never seen it so slow.
And if you really need an explanation as to why this is the case, I'm very, VERY worried about both you and this site's administrators.
musings
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:36 am
Oh come on, who are you? Ken Starr? Just because you aren't able to get him for blow-jobs in the Oval Office, you think this is going to start something? Because of the lame Republican candidates? What cowardice!
musings
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
Yeah – it's called spare change. A lot of us don't have it these days, what with all the debt service. "It's the economy stupid!"
andy
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Money, my friend. Money.
andy
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
NO war for Israel.
Strider55
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
We could instantly eliminate campaign money from the Senate by repealing the 17th Amendment. That would once again put the state legislatures in charge of choosing Senators. It would be impossible for AIPAC or any other moneybags group to bribe enough legislators to appoint their cronies, and it's a lot easier for the people to throw out a corrupt state lawmaker than a corrupt US Senator. In fact, with the 17th gone the legislature could remove a Senator from office at any time.
j r
March 2nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
The truth about 9/11?
Nelson_2008
March 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Sorry but you're not making much sense. What we've got here is rock solid, incontrovertible evidence – really they were caught red-handed – of a massive criminal conspiracy, at the very top levels of government, to defraud the American people, and to use their manchurian puppet "President" to implement an anti-American agenda which is destroying us as I type this.
You compare that to a sex scandal, and then you expect to be taken seriously, goofball?
Billbox04
March 2nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
false flag – will they dare ?
Sam
March 2nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Now Ms. Clinton is pressuring Turkey, Pakistan, India, China and others who have traded with Persia for millenia to stop doing business with them.Madness, madness.
musings
March 2nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Your tendency to make this an ad hominem attack indicates you are at the end of a logical thread and resorting to showing such a sign of frustration. Are you sure you aren't Rush Limbaugh?
musings
March 2nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I suppose she must toe the line for her Israeli and AIPAC supporters. However where she has more flexibility – as with the new leader of N. Korea, meeting with China, she can deal. The neocons are shouting down her dealings with them, but she can afford to shrug it off and follow logic. Not so where Iran is concerned.
Nelson_2008
March 2nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Nothing so dramatic, Chump. My tendency toward ad hominem is merely the result of your deserving it; i.e., you and your hapless statist apologia obviously don't deserve to be taken seriously.
Ben_C
March 2nd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I still don't see how a war with (bombing nuclear facilities in) Iran would benefit Israel. I have no doubt Bibi, Barak, the neo-cons, some of the idiots in AIPAC, and others actually believe this, however, many of these idiots also believed getting rid of Saddam would produce a similar outcome—which, in truth, only spread the influence of the now claimed "greatest threat to Israel" known as Iran. The only group who really stands to benefit from an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities is the Iranian regime itself and the hardliners in it.
Ben_C
March 2nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
(…)
How/what would Israel and/or the US stand to gain by destroying nuclear weapons which simply do not exist? Even 'if' Iran did produce a Nuke, they wouldn't be able to use it in the first place—as they do not have the delivery systems…and even if they did have the delivery systems and were able to use a nuke on Israel, or any other nation for that matter, the likelihood of them actually using it is essentially non-existent…and in the essentially non-existent off-chance Iran decided to use a nuke, it's much more likely they would use it on Saudi Arabia than Israel. So, in conclusion, one could argue a "War with Iran" carried out by Israel and/or the US is a war for Saudi Arabia.
Ben_C
March 2nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
(…)
Even taking this further and assuming Israel took advantage of this "crisis" to extend its boarders into Lebenon or elsewhere (which is possible), extending Israel's boarders most likely will only compromise Israel's demographics even more than they already are. So you could further conclude this would only threaten the "Jewish State Of Israel", as Marvin Gaye is much more of a "real" threat to the "Jewish State of Israel" than Iran's non-existent nuclear weapons.
David Grayling
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
If the U.S. bombed Israel, the world would immediately become a better place. Then if it bombed itself into submission the word 'exceptional' might have some meaning!
andy
March 2nd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Just send one dollar. How many read this site? If everybody did that, no problemo.
30.06
March 2nd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
HANDS OFF IRAN !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACzYJ9IGlTg
fuctardsrus
March 2nd, 2012 at 10:56 pm
it's funny no one really wants to restrict the people they only want to restrict the money?
CruellaDeville
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:11 pm
The more you fight for the Palestinians and their resistance the more you harden Irsraels resolve against them. Last I checked Israel can bomb and kill them with impunity and not a single Arab nation will stand in their defense. Not One! Your only killing them, but I guess that is okay since you are miles away fighting the good war and they are dying,
CruellaDeville
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:53 pm
NO war for Saudi Arabia
CruellaDeville
March 2nd, 2012 at 11:54 pm
They don't need a false flag look at Lybia…no false flag required
musings
March 3rd, 2012 at 6:38 am
"statist apologia"? Surely you jest.
musings
March 3rd, 2012 at 6:41 am
Bit of a non sequitur, don't you think? To put all Arabs in a bad light? Though perhaps they like Israel like to use excuses to carry out aggression. Birds of a feather?
tomofsnj
March 3rd, 2012 at 6:47 am
Few understand what a disaster the 17th amendment has become. We now have a bunch of war mongers who personally profit from war. Along with getting rid of the 17th we must return to the fact that it is congress duty to declare war. The president should have the power to stop a present threat but not the present drum beat as the present attack on Iran happens to be. At the time of the 17th the same people brought us the federal reserve which presently has become a world bank protecting foreign interest over the interest of USA citizens. I would also like to see the elimination of the Federal Reserve along with the 17th.
tomofsnj
March 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 am
souther border of which will be Litani River.'
You are correct the Israel will move up and take its land to the Litani river. Israel is a very wasteful country and it has destroyed most of the water tables that is had. They cried that they came to a desert and planted a forest. The problem is the trees destroyed to water tables by sucking up much of the water and creating a fire hazard. They came to a desert and created a disaster area.
The Litani river is a very large source of fresh water. Ben Gurion attempt to make it the original border but failed. He know the need for water. BTW those wondering why Israel continues to attack Gaza One has to understand that Gaza is a large water source also. The wet bank has a huge water table level also. Water is the most important thing to a person living in a desert. The 100 year drought presently going on could very well become the 1000 year drought and that will cause major populaiton shifts. With population shirts comes wars. Look at what they created when they moved a large number of polish to the middle east.
Nelson_2008
March 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
Surely anyone here can read your inane comment and decide for themselves whether to take you seriously or not.
R.C.
March 3rd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Hey Justin!
I know that you'll probably be writing on the Russian presidential election in the coming days, so I just thought you and the staff of antiwar.com would like to see this:
http://www.russiaotherpointsofview.com/2012/03/to…
It appears that a video is circulating of a group purportedly "rigging" the March 4th elections………tomorrow! I'm certain that given the anti-Putin position of the western media, this won't warrant a mention in the western MSM. It seems someone has an interest in discrediting Putin and making sure the elections are rigged…even if they aren't.
Just incredible.
MvGuy
March 3rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
"It would be impossible for AIPAC or any other moneybags group to bribe enough legislators to appoint their cronies"
NG Strider….!!!!! There is always enough money to tip the scales……..!!!!!!!!!!
Strider55
March 3rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Along with the 17th Amendment and the Fed came the 16th Amendment (income tax), without which the welfare-warfare state could never have been financed. A trifecta for the socialist progs.
richard vajs
March 4th, 2012 at 7:26 am
I wouldn't take the Bible's word on what Israel was all about. The Bible makes Israel into some marvelous kingdom when the actual history is that ancient Israel was not that marvelous. Those glorious temples of Solomon were really mud huts, the Israeli armies were usually not victorious, and the Egyptian pharoahs didn't give a whit whether the Israelis hung around or not. I've read the Old Testament and I have read ancient history, and there is this big disconnect. Take the mighty Exodus for example – the Bible claims that 2 million people left slavery in Egypt, the Pharoh's Army destroyed itself chasing them, wandered around the Sinai for 40 years and then took over the "holy land" and yet, not a single Egyptian record exists that even mentions the incident. The old Greek historian, gossip, and reteller of fantastic tales, Herodotus, doesn't even mention the Israelites (he refers to the inhabitants of this region as Palestinians). And don't even start me on Noah and the Ark.