The Ron Paul Precedent
Iowa results chart the future of the GOP
The results of the Iowa caucus have the news media spinning a "victory" for Mitt Romney, the Goldman-Sachs candidate, and the supposedly all-but-inevitable nominee of his party. Just why he was deemed the "frontrunner" before even a single vote had been cast is a mystery known only to the professional pundits, who seem to have bestowed this title on him because of his perfect hair and his perfectly unauthentic persona. Romney is the Stepford Candidate, robotically repeating those phrases which are expected of him with all the conviction of a simulacrum. Which leads one to wonder: how can this preprogrammed human automaton ever hope to defeat the personable and relatively authentic Obama?
For those with more imagination, the victor in this fight has been Rick Santorum, whose surge toward the end put him within a dozen or so votes of Romney. Hours after the results were announced, we were treated to the sight of breathless commentators anointing a candidate with no money and no real conservative credentials as the One True Anti-Romney who could snatch the crown from Mitt’s brow.
The Iowa caucus results are supposed to be all about "expectations," which begs the question: whose expectations? Why, the mainstream media’s, of course, a fact which – you’ll note – allows these guardians of the conventional wisdom to play their key role as the final arbiters of what all this voting means. And the formulaic "spin" had been determined far in advance: if Romney won, then his coronation was supposed to be foreordained. If anybody but Romney won, it would simply delay Romney’s final victory. If Ron Paul won, then the Iowa caucuses would henceforth be deemed "irrelevant."
Peter Feaver, writing on foreignpolicy.com, was typically dismissive of Paul’s showing:
"The Iowa results probably indicate that there will not be a big crack-up within the Republican party on foreign policy because the caucus returns are likely to be the high-water mark for the candidate with the most distinctive foreign policy platform in the field: Ron Paul. He did well enough to gain another week of press attention. But in the one contest best-suited to his unusual political operation, Paul did not beat expectations. He would have to really surprise in New Hampshire in order to remain relevant in the later primaries, and those are likely to be even tougher terrain for him."
It’s all about "press attention" – but what if it isn’t? What if it’s possible to bypass the traditional gatekeepers and create a movement weaned on alternative media and rising populist anger at the Washington-New York power elite? Because that is precisely what Paul has done, and that movement has hardly crested in the wilds of Iowa: it’s only owing to a deficiency of imagination on the part of Feaver and his confreres, a curious sort of tunnel vision, that allows them that assumption.
The reality of Paul’s accomplishment is clear, as the feisty congressman pointed out in his final Iowa speech to his supporters:
"But also, the great strides that we have made has been really on foreign policy. The fact that we can once again talk in Republican circles and make it credible. Talk about what Eisenhower said that beware of the military-industrial complex. Talk about the old days when Robert Taft, Mr. Republican, said that we shouldn’t be engaged in these entangling alliance. He believed what the founders taught us. He didn’t even want to be in NATO. We certainly don’t need NATO and the UN telling us when to go to war.
"But we have seen a great difference. The majority of the American people are behind us on this whole war effort. They’re tired of the war. Cost too much money. Too many people get killed. Too many people get injured. Too many people get sick. And the majority – maybe 70% or 80% – of the American people now are saying it’s time to get out of Afghanistan."
At every debate, and every campaign appearance, Paul is transforming the discourse. Forced to start noticing him due to his steadily climbing poll numbers, the mainstream media invariably dismissed his ability to expand beyond a narrow libertarian base, which was supposedly limited by his "isolationist" foreign policy views. Yet he managed to pull off what was essentially a three-way tie, denying the alleged frontrunner and the media-anointed "conservative" a clear victory.
I’ll note, in passing, that Democrats opposed to our aggressive foreign policy are almost never described as "isolationists," and one can hardly imagine a reporter referring to the demonstrations protesting the Iraq war as "isolationist" rallies. The left-right, red state-blue state lens the media clamps over every event distorts and masks a somewhat more complex underlying reality.
Much has been made of Paul’s youthful constituency, and his lead in commanding the support of political independents and Democrats who signed up as Republicans for the evening, and yet less is said about the 18 percent of evangelicals who cast their lot with the one presidential candidate who wants to dismantle the Empire. In spite of a relentless smear campaign led by Fox News and the neoconservative would-be policemen of the right, nearly a quarter of Iowa Republicans stood with Paul at the caucuses.
The icing on this cake is that the candidate made no attempt to downplay or hide his supposedly "controversial" foreign policy views: indeed, he emphasized them even when he was talking about domestic policy, tying the conservative project of dismantling the federal Leviathan to the need to drop the burden of empire. That over 20 percent of Iowa caucus-goers voted to endorse Paul’s uncompromising anti-interventionism scares the bejesus out of the GOP establishment because the Paulians aren’t going to go away. Well-funded and blessed with a growing army of enthusiastic volunteers, the Paul campaign has the resources to go all the way to Tampa.
The Iowa results lay bare the contours of the GOP’s constituency, and the changing face of the American right. The Romney camp represents the often-pronounced dead but never quite moribund Eastern Establishment or "moderate" wing of the Republican party. Santorum, for his part, is an unrepentant Bushian Republican, although you’ll never hear that name pass his lips. Ideologically, he represents Big Government conservatism married to an impossibly bellicose foreign policy which has us bombing Iran next week. In this, he is simply a younger, slimmer Newt Gingrich, with two less wives: it’s no surprise the original Newt has proposed a non-aggression pact with Santorum, offering to serve as Rick’s attack dog against Romney.
The real news out of Iowa is that the terms of the foreign policy debate in this country are being changed, and it’s all due to Paul’s singular voice. For the first time since the Vietnam war era, the electorate is being given the chance to vote for or against our foreign policy of perpetual war. What’s more, that battle is being fought inside the party that presided over and directed America’s post-9/11 rampage through the Muslim world: the very heart of the War Party’s territory. That this debate is even taking place is a victory in itself. Airily dismissed in the salons of Georgetown and Manhattan’s Upper West Side as a "fringe" candidate and the GOP’s "crazy old uncle," Paul’s solid showing demonstrated his growing political clout.
The various "conservative" aspirers to the role of the Anti-Romney all crashed and burned because the various strands of conservative thought they embodied have all failed to provide Americans with any way out of the crisis we face. Bachmann’s paint-by-numbers sloganeering and her reputation as a fount of misinformation, Cain’s cynical and formulaic pragmatism, Perry’s pastiche of Bush II, Newt’s warmed-over "compassionate conservatism" served up with a dollop of corruption – all have failed miserably in the realm of ideas, as well as at the ballot box.
Santorum represents the last best hope of the same neocons who led the Republicans to defeat in 2008. When Santorum denies the very existence of the Palestinians as a people he is appealing to the Likud wing of the GOP – a constituency hotly contested by Romney, whose foreign policy team is weighted heavily with neocons. The problem with this strategy is that the majority of Republicans are just as war-weary as the rest of us: while Santorum and Romney are bemoaning the official end of the US occupation of Iraq, polls show a majority of self-identified Republicans think the Iraq war wasn’t worth it. In this judgment they reflect the views of the majority of Americans, who want us out of Afghanistan, too.
We hear loud war cries emanating from the vicinity of Washington and New York, but where are the massive pro-war demonstrations demanding we act to stop the alleged [.pdf] Iranian "threat"? All we see and hear is Michelle Bachmann and a bunch of bleach-blonde Fox News anchors bleating that Paul is "dangerous" because he wants to avert World War III. All we hear is failed presidential candidate and bloated braggart Newt Gingrich declaring he’d vote for Obama rather than the "isolationist" Paul.
At least Gingrich is being honest for once. He’s telling us that all the talk about fiscal conservatism, the free market, and individual liberty is just window-dressing: what he and his fellow neocons are really after is the ability to launch more and bigger wars, and if they have to throw their "smaller government" baggage overboard to reach their goal, then so be it.
How long before the Santorum bubble expands beyond its capacity to encompass the truth and pops is anyone’s guess: mine is that it will be sooner rather than later. As more of Santorum’s Bush era positions come out, especially on economic issues, party conservatives in search of an alternative to Romney will have no one but Ron to turn to.
Paul is often disdained as a "protest" candidate, but every revolution starts out as a mere episodic protest. Paul’s Iowa campaign proved two things: 1) the anti-interventionist wing of the GOP is substantial, and 2) it is here to stay. Paul has set an important precedent: for the first time since the 1930s, a Republican politician who challenges the militarist malarkey coming out the mouths of our "conservative" politicians commands a mass following. That is a victory all advocates of peace, on the left as well as the right, ought to be celebrating.
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Johnny in Wi.
January 5th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
This is one great essay Justin. i thnk Santorum's pump up by the Neocons on talk radio and Fox snooze is wonderful. Now we have, a not too bright, rabid, chicken hawk warmonger, as the main spokesman and debater for endless war and endless war funding. He wants to bomb Iran and get us into WW3. He is as crazy as a loon, if he thinks he can sell that to the American people. The whole question of war funding has been seized by Obama and he is threatening cuts as a wedge issue with the Republicans. I will love to see this debate intensify as the campaign continues. Ron Paul has changed the focus of debate in both parties. Obama is trying to get the troops home as fast as possible from Afganistan, before the election. Romney knows he is a gone goose if he runs as a prowar candidate, if he gets the nomination. Everything is in beautiful turmoil thanks to Ron Paul.
RickR30
January 5th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Indeed. Once the dust settles between the Mormon and the anti-Mormon candidate battle, once this mini religious war in the Republican party ends, one of those two will remain, Romney most likely, who doesn't have a whole lot of a chance against Obama, and Paul. It would be better for Paul if someone like Diablorum survives, who has a much darker and corrupt past in the Senate and isn't afraid to say wacky extremist socio-religious things, that in no way resonate with Americans. And his neocon mania is important to really set him apart from Paul the peace candidate.
Romney from what some say doesn't really have a chance with a good portion of Christians, and who is too dislikable and arrogant, and who isn't afraid to say whatever the audience of the moment wants to hear is also an ideal opponent for Paul. So regardless which of these two sorry characters remains, Paul benefits.
The Paul campaign needs to take one step further in aggressiveness. His ads are the best around. What is needed now is that he doesn't just tell us what the he stands for but makes it crystal clear what his opponents stand for: expensive frivolous offensive wars of aggression, death, destruction, deficit, empire, the end of liberties for US citizens, the end of the Bill of Rights, more joblessness, more homelessness, tyranny, more money for the 99%, more bailouts for the rich, more goldman sucks shenanigans, even more corruption in DC, the list goes on and on.
Paul's campaign needs to challenge Moth and Diablorum to answer the question whether they would have signed NDAA, and why, and whether they have ever heard of the Bill of Right and if so, don't they think NDAA contradicts it. Run ads with quotes from those two bozos blabbing about their plans for Iran and point out the consequences on the price of gas for Americans. A smart and aggressive Paul campaign can destroy any neocon puppet prowar candidate. Go Ron Paul!
David Grayling
January 5th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Obama, Paul and Romney, now where could you find a finer group of Presidential candidates on Planet Earth? Probably if you visited the local asylum!
Are these the best that the U.S. has to offer the world in exchange for its feeble attempt at running the world?
Where are the Three Stooges when you need them!
Johnny in Wi.
January 6th, 2012 at 12:12 am
I agree with you. The more he exposes these warmongering lunatics the better off the country will be. He should run adds with Romney, Gingrich and Santorum spouting their most rabid zionist out bursts. Then he should come on and say I am running for President of the USA, not president of Israel.
MoT
January 6th, 2012 at 12:36 am
I always find it amazing that the talking bobble heads, and their sycophantic fan bois, burble on about the Sanitarium as though he were some sort of reincarnation of Reagan. They prattle about his "conservatism" when this Nimrod has voted time and again to raise the debt ceiling. He's the Remus to Romneys' Romulus. Twin empty suits the both of them.
Rusty
January 6th, 2012 at 12:55 am
Forget about trade, immigration, healthcare and any issues other than a big-budget military and an interventionist foreign policy. Two quotes from two famous neocons basically sum up why Ron Paul is persona non grata. From Irving Kristol in 1973:
Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel… Jews don’t like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States…American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.
From Norman Podhoretz in 1979:
There was, to be sure, one thing that many of even the most passionately committed American Zionists were reluctant to do, and that was to face up to the fact that continued American support for Israel depended upon continued American involvement in international affairs– from which it followed that an American withdrawal into the kind of isolationist mood that prevailed most recently between the two world wars, and that now looked as though it might soon prevail again, represented a direct threat to the security of Israel.
samhain
January 6th, 2012 at 2:00 am
What differentiates Ron Paul from every other politician is his harmony in thought, word and action. Paul says what he thinks. He means what he says. He does what he says he is going to do. The others say either what they think you want to hear or they say what they think will put themselves in the best light. You can’t believe them, you can’t trust them, because they don’t mean what they say and they don’t do what they say they are going to do. Liars and cheats and villains are terrified of a man like Ron Paul. Terrified. Because he is honest. Nothing can overcome truth. Nothing can overcome honesty. Paul is the only one among them who has harmony in his thoughts, words and actions. That is why I support Paul 100% and unequivocally even thought I don’t always agree with every single thing that he says. I trust him. He won’t lie to me. He is honest. He does what he says. Some say that Paul is naive, that his policies won’t work, that his government would fail. Hmmm, well, then the Constitution won’t work. Regardless, I would rather follow an honest man into oblivion, than to be led by a pack of liars into hell.
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January 6th, 2012 at 4:32 am
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richard vajs
January 6th, 2012 at 6:00 am
I too want Ron Paul to win, but I know one troubling fact – America is deeply corrupt. Too corrupt for a fair fight. Today I saw a TV ad, supposedly produced by Ron Paul supporters, that had a very racist tone. The ad showed Paul rival Huntsman speaking Chineese as if that were some kind of display of anti-Americanism. Plastered on the screen the whole time was the message that it was paid for by "Victory for Ron Paul in NH" or something like that. It was a blatant appeal to ignorance. This is how the Establishment will destroy Ron Paul – by tarring him as a racist, not by arguing fairly. I am sure that no Ron Paul supporters produced this ugly ad; it was produced by some, slimy, little operative like the creep who dressed up like a pimp to destroy ACORN. America is stupid and corrupt – too stupid to catch onto the corruptness that riddles our our country.
Truthster
January 6th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Santorum is simply a stalking horse to keep religious conservatives away from Paul. A few pastors in Iowa abruptly threw a lot of weight behind him and he got the Evangelical vote which is why Paul did not win.
That was an inspired move by someone – and one might suspect the Israeli Lobby which plays the Evangelicals like a harmonica. There is a story waiting to be uncovered there.
Dieter
January 6th, 2012 at 6:27 am
When I wondered on line why young people favor Mr. Paul nearly every answer of young persons contained the statement: "because he wants to make marijuana legal". Good luck Mr. Paul with such support!
F.A. Hayek Fan
January 6th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Maybe I'm just a "glass half empty" kind of a guy but while Mr. Raimondo focuses on the fact that "nearly a quarter of Iowa Republicans stood with Paul at the caucuses," I tend to look at it as more than three-quarters of Iowa Republicans stood against Paul at the caucuses. What do these three-quarters have in common? The same thing all of the candidates have in common: blood lust and the desire to read about the murder of others. Regardless of what the polls claim, the majority of Americans are pro-war and stand with the war mongers be they Republican or Democrat. They are pro-empire and pro-death and will remain that way until they become personally affected by their decisions. Unfortunately, due to the lack of economics education in our school systems, they do not see that they are already and will continue to be personally affected. I do not see any let up in our wars until the world has had enough and rises up against us in much the same way it rose up against the Nazi's during WWII. Too many people think we have a god-given right to use force to make others obey our will.
Liberty Vigilante
January 6th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Where's the link to this so called 'wondering'? I've spent many hundreds of hours amongst the young Ron Paul enthusiasts and can't recall a single discussion on them wanting marijuana legalized for their own use. When the topic does come up, it's generally discussed in terms of the negatives associated with prohibition, such as criminal gangs, violence, increased toxicity of items used and the disastrous effects of imprisonment on people and their families.
Drake
January 6th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Great article, Mr. Raimondo. Statist warmongers like Gingrich, Santorum and Romney are an affront to traditional conservatives. I don't really undersand the Tea Party. Most of the TP's I know are warmongers who are afraid that Obamacare will kill their favorite governmental entitlement-Medicare.
Duglarri
January 6th, 2012 at 8:41 am
The striking thing to me is the way the average person's view of foreign policy turns on fear.
What stikes me is the degree to which regular folks in Iowa are quite plainly nervous about Ron Paul's call to bring the troops home. When you listen to the man on the street interviews on this topic, they look like someone who's being asked to go on a long vacation and leave the doors unlocked at the water running.
It's as if they can't imagine what it would be like. But the prospect scares them.
This may be Ron Paul's biggest problem: what he is proposing is something that is completely and utterly alien to the American way of thinking since 1945. He's challenging a basic assumption that has been absolutely general since then: keep a thumb on everything, everywhere. Anything else is not safe.
Isn't the reaction to him by the people who must have voted for Santorum like standing up in front of a crowd and telling them it's okay to leave a pot on the stove when they go out shopping? That it's someone else's stove anyway, and doesn't affect them?
Isn't that what the look on all these faces is? A mixture of fear and confusion?
This is something they've always been told was wrong, wrong, wrong. It's quite a leap to get them to accept that they can change this.
He's asking people to change a core belief they've been pummelled with all their lives.
It's much easier to make people afraid than it is to rid them of fear.
Peaceful_Idiot
January 6th, 2012 at 8:53 am
The votes are a beauty contest. Delegates are what matters. Santorum got 8, Romney and Paul got 7.
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Generalissimo X
January 6th, 2012 at 9:26 am
couple of things: first of all i for one am not convinced that the results from iowa are even legitimate. how does paul go from front runner, then wildly ahead in first, to a distant third? after 2000, 2004, and the "secret" counting process in iowa i have a hard time believing any of this. the candidates are selected not elected. and corporate stooges aside, what compels the rethuglicans to think that mittens or slick rick and the god squad could possibly beat obama? good god, it's like they want to lose on purpose. but of course the global elite would never manipulate or sabotage the american electoral process or the american voters. nooooooo, they are totally on the up and up.
this part kinda struck me: Paul has set an important precedent: for the first time since the 1930s, a Republican politician who challenges the militarist malarkey coming out the mouths of our "conservative" politicians commands a mass following.
not to be a tool here, but my recollection of history seems to be that this was ultimately unsuccessful, what with the 40's and WWII intervention. i'd like to believe the american people will wise up and vote for ron paul, i really really would, but i can't. the fact that paul didn't get 75% of the vote is appalling. constitution? liberty? individual rights? peace? you must have made up words that don't exist.
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January 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
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antiwar7
January 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
That's not what I see. The antiwar aspect of his foreign policy and his anti-US-debt position (why would young people want to pay for these wars later?) rate much higher in young people's positions I've seen.
ML3
January 6th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I voted for Ralph Nader in 2000, Kerry the joke in 2004, Obama the mistake in 2008.
I will vote for Ron Paul no matter what. As a Republican, as an Independent.
We all need to pitch in, vote for Ron Paul and STICK IT UP THE ASS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT – DO ALL WE CAN TO TURN THEIR SH*T UPSIDE DOWN
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January 6th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
[...] The icing on this cake is that Ron Paul made no attempt to downplay or hide his supposedly “controversial” foreign policy views: indeed, he emphasized them even when he was talking about domestic policy, tying the conservative project of dismantling the federal Leviathan to the need to drop the burden of empire. That over 20 percent of Iowa caucus-goers voted to endorse Paul’s uncompromising anti-interventionism scares the bejesus out of the GOP establishment because the Paulians aren’t going to go away. Well-funded and blessed with a growing army of enthusiastic volunteers, the Paul campaign has the resources to go all the way to Tampa. The Iowa results lay bare the contours of the GOP’s constituency, and the changing face of the American right. The Romney camp represents the often-pronounced dead but never quite moribund Eastern Establishment or “moderate” wing of the Republican party. Santorum, for his part, is an unrepentant Bushian Republican, although you’ll never hear that name pass his lips. Ideologically, he represents Big Government conservatism married to an impossibly bellicose foreign policy which has us bombing Iran next week. In this, he is simply a younger, slimmer Newt Gingrich, with two less wives: it’s no surprise the original Newt has proposed a non-aggression pact with Santorum, offering to serve as Rick’s attack dog against Romney. The real news out of Iowa is that the terms of the foreign policy debate in this country are being changed, and it’s all due to Paul’s singular voice. For the first time since the Vietnam war era, the electorate is being given the chance to vote for or against our foreign policy of perpetual war. What’s more, that battle is being fought inside the party that presided over and directed America’s post-9/11 rampage through the Muslim world: the very heart of the War Party’s territory. http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/01/05/the-ron-paul-precedent/ [...]
F.A. Hayek Fan
January 6th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Duglarri wrote: "The striking thing to me is the way the average person's view of foreign policy turns on fear."
I agree. When I visit the so-called conservative political forums (LibertyPost, Free Republic, etc) I am flabbergasted by the outright fear and cowardice of the average conservative. There are a large number of people who actually believe that Islam is taking over the United States. These nut-bags truly believe that we are on the verge of having Sharia law forced upon us and are petrified! I read this stuff and I just cannot get over it. How can anyone be so stupid? How can anyone be so fearful? The way they act I am convinced that if a Muslim knocked on their door to proselytize these fools would drop to their knees and convert while begging for mercy. If it wasn't so sad it would be funny.
Of course they aren't all like that. Others are nothing more than your typical Evangelical Zionist death cultists that demand nothing less than subservience to Israel and the extermination of the entire Islamic religion from the face of the Earth. They come armed with passages from the Old Testament which they have twisted and taken out of context to prove that the whole "Jesus is the Prince of Peace" idea is nothing more than liberal (or Catholic) propaganda. To them Jesus is a God of war that commands "good Christians" to kill the Mohammedans.
yahya
January 6th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
yeah, this is probably true. but i guess we're all excited because 25% standing with Paul is far greater than we had ever expected.
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liberranter
January 6th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
If that ad was bogus, created by the GOP Establishment without the knowledge or consent of the Paul Campaign, then it seem to me that somebody's campaign has violated federal election law (and probably some other laws as well). Let us hope that 1) that is the case, and 2) somebody is nailed to a cross for it.
David Grayling
January 6th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Are you trying to tell me that Obama, Paul and Romney are the cream of the American crop?
Obama is a liar first class, a bought man, Paul is a doddery old fool, and Romney is a religious fanatic. In most normal countries in the world, none of them would get a job on a garbage collection truck.
Wake up, Americans. Elect some decent politicians for a change!
JLS
January 6th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Romney's not a religious fanatic he's a compolete empty suit who seems to have absolutely no beliefs or principles or preferences whatsoever other than to get elected and once in, do whatever his "experts" tell him to; experts being the CIA, military, oil, Israel, insurance and pharmacuetical lobbies.
James
January 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
If elections are fair I can't see how DR Paul did not come in a big first.I don't belive with all of Americas corruption they don't pick there presidents before 1 vote is cast.Even in my country Canada I think we may have the same corruption just not as bad yet.
Rusty
January 6th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Justin, Alan Dershowitz has an opinion piece in the Jerusalem Post attacking Ron Paul as an antisemite and linking him to holocaust deniers.
How low are they going to go?
Do you think it would be better if Ron Paul just declares that he will guarantee Israel beneath a US nuclear umbrella? I know it is not in the Constitution. But there is no way anyone like Ron can get elected and do what needs to be done domestically without acknowledging that special middle eastern nation. Maybe Ron can say he will support their admission as the 51st state. But unless he, or his son or any successor, gets over the Israeli hump, we have no chance in cleaning out DC.
Largo
January 6th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
One great big Amen to that.
Trickle Down
January 7th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Well said! These Paultards might act like just because their guy made a showing that America is back on track, but Ron Paul is just as screwed up as anyone else permitted in the field.
Until decent, normal people can find a place in US politics, things will get worse and worse. As the old Chinese curse goes, we are indeed living in interesting times.
Trickle Down
January 7th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Reagan bribed the Iranians to hold hostages until after the election in order to steal the white house and then proceeded to invent generational deficits in order to bribe support from the Baby Boomers.
Even Reagan is no Reagan.
Trickle Down
January 7th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Only because disgruntled liberals didn't have anyone else to vote for and it was an open caucus.
richard vajs
January 8th, 2012 at 7:08 am
I believe that the Ron Paul team suspects that this little stink bomb was thrown by the Huntsman campaign itself. This was done by some computer chicanery that this old guy doesn't follow.
"Violating federal election law" – and being punished for it. How quaint of you to hearken back to an earlier time when the game had some rules. This is America 2012, my friend; the only rule now is to win and win big.
MoT
January 8th, 2012 at 9:21 am
No argument from me on that one. And to think I used to believe his and his butt buddy Bush's lies back in the day.
MoT
January 8th, 2012 at 10:13 am
I'm reminded of what a fellow libertarian minded fellow told me. He said that if someone, even for their own personal and selfish aims was helping the cause of freedom, if even only indirectly and in this way, then so be it. It helps us all.
MoT
January 8th, 2012 at 10:14 am
True. They prefer slow suicide as opposed to the quick.
Anti_republocrat
January 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am
You're absolutely right about Obama. Oh, wait. You were talking about Romney. Sorry. My bad.
Anti_republocrat
January 8th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Well, I disagree with Paul in that he fails to account for the distortions to the common law "free market" caused by limited liability corporations chartered by the State. That doesn't disqualify him from being a "decent, normal person" and until I see Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel on the Presidential ballot, I will vote for Paul if he is there.
Anti_republocrat
January 8th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Unfortunately, this is perfectly legal. Any anonymous super PAC can purchase the name "Victory for Ron Paul in NH" and run such an add, and it may be impossible to track down the source. I don't know whether Ron Paul can get a court injunction to prevent anyone from using his name in an ad without his permission, but that is probably his only option.
Anti_republocrat
January 8th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Oh, and thank SCOTUS for Citizen's United.
Anti_republocrat
January 8th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Yup. A majority may understand that Iraq was a disaster, but most people are nevertheless buying into the anti-Iran propaganda as though Iraq never happened.
By the way, are you aware that Hayek believed that government should regulate corporations, especially monopolies, and was unsure whether natural monopolies should be owned by the state or privately, though he did lean toward government regulation of private monopolies. He also believed a modern industrial society should provide basic food and shelter for all people. At least, those were his positions when he wrote Road to Serfdom.
What Hayek opposed was State planning of the entire economy. He believed in maximizing freedom and the decisions made freely by individuals. That doesn't mean he would have opposed clean air and water, food and drug regulation, SSI or government run homeless shelters.
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Bob D
January 9th, 2012 at 9:36 am
The ad does not pass the smell test. Huntsman will do well in New Hampshire, but nowhere else. romney is the threat. Ron Paul has only attacked Huntsman when asked a question by the news media. He is smart enough to concentrate on Mitt these days.
Kevin D
January 9th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Great read Justin, thanks! One thing, lets start refering to Dr. Paul as a 'statesman'. 'Politician' is such a seedy term these days. haha
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Mike
January 17th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Romney…Obama…They might as well just leave the same person in office all the time and just change the name. Kinda seems like this already happens doesn't it?