The ‘Terrorist’ Who Couldn’t Think Straight
Iranian 'terrorist' plot unravels
Would Iran recruit a used car salesman with a memory problem to conduct assassinations in the US?
This is a question you have to ask yourself when evaluating the alleged Iranian "terrorist" plot supposedly uncovered by Attorney General Eric Holder the other day. The arrest of Mansour Arbabsiar, a 56-year-old Iranian immigrant who came to this country as a college student, was the occasion for a trumpet blast of anti-Iranian propaganda and belligerent declarations by US officials, who vowed to "hold Iran accountable" for purportedly mounting a plot [.pdf] to kill the Saudi ambassador, bomb the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Washington, and strike at the Jewish community in Argentina.
The alleged plot was supposed to have been carried out by a member of the Zetas drug cartel, who was to be paid up to $1.5 million to implement the plan. US officials, even while acknowledging the "B-movie" aspect of the story, reportedly "fanned out" to convince our allies the plot was real and – with Congress already demanding new sanctions on Iran – that the economic vise be tightened. Not only are the more hysterical neocons calling for military action against Iran – no surprise there — but the headlines had the normally staid and relatively reserved Steve Clemons, a prominent Obama shill, babbling that "this is a serious situation" and "the U.S. has reached a point where it must take action," and Sen. Carl Levin calling the plot "an act of war."
Less than 24 hours after Holder’s press conference, the whole fantasy began to unravel under closer scrutiny. Gary Sick, of the Middle East Institute at Columbia University, averred that the alleged plot "departs from all known Iranian policies and procedures," and went on to write:
"It is difficult to believe that they would rely on a non-Islamic criminal gang to carry out this most sensitive of all possible missions. In this instance, they allegedly relied on at least one amateur and a Mexican criminal drug gang that is known to be riddled with both Mexican and U.S. intelligence agents.
"Whatever else may be Iran’s failings, they are not noted for utter disregard of the most basic intelligence tradecraft, e.g. discussing an ultra-covert operation on an open international line between Iran and the U.S. Yet that is what happened here."
Kenneth Katzman, a Middle East analyst with the Congressional Research Office, concurs:
"There is simply no precedent — or even reasonable rationale — for Iran working any plot, no matter where located, through a non-Muslim proxy such as Mexican drug gangs. No one high up in the Quds, the I.R.G.C. command, the Supreme National Security Committee, or anywhere else in the Iranian chain of command would possibly trust that such a plot could be kept secret or carried out properly by the Mexican drug people. They absolutely would not trust such a thing to them, given Iran’s undoubted assumption that the Mexicans are penetrated by the D.E.A. and F.B.I. and A.T.F., etc — and indeed this plot was revealed by just such a U.S. informant….
"Are we to believe that this Texas car seller was a Quds sleeper agent for many years resident in the U.S.? Ridiculous. They (the Iranian command system) never ever use such has-beens or loosely connected people for sensitive plots such as this."
Ridiculous – that just about says it all.
But as Ayn Rand once said: "Don’t bother to question a fallacy, ask yourself only what it accomplishes." The idea is to target Iran as the next al-Qaeda: with the late unlamented Osama bin Laden out of the picture, the US has to find a replacement – and quick! – in order to justify its decade-long post-9/11 rampage across the Middle East and much of the rest of the world. What’s a war without an enemy? Iran has always been the War Party’s ultimate Middle Eastern target, and now they are making their move.
As an opening shot in a propaganda war, Holder’s startling announcement had high impact – but low credibility, as the excitement died down and the details came into focus. The problem with the narrative woven by the Justice Department is that the supposed fulcrum of this heinous plot, Senor Arbabsiar, is hardly the sort of character who makes a convincing terrorist/foreign agent. Longtime associate Tom Hosseini, a fellow Iranian-American who has known Arbabsiar for over 30 years, wondered aloud to a Washington Post reporter "how anyone – but most especially an elite military organization such as Iran’s Quds force — would get involved with Arbabsiar in the first place."
"Maybe," says Hosseini, "somebody offered him some money. He doesn’t have the brain to say no."
Arbabsiar certainly had a lot of money on him when he and Hosseini met in Iranian Kurdistan last August: the Post reports he was "waving around crisp $100 bills" and declaring that there was a lot more where that came from. Yet Arbabsiar’s many businesses – "from used cars to kebabs" – had all failed. Perhaps this lack of business acumen was tied to his general inability to think straight, or, as the Post puts it:
"Within the small Iranian American community in this Gulf Coast city, Arbabsiar, 56, was well known and well liked. But he was also renowned for being almost comically absent-minded, perpetually losing keys, cellphones, briefcases, anything that wasn’t tied down."
The Post profile is headlined "Mansour Arbabsiar recalled as upbeat about finances during summer encounter," but the actual story deserves a title more along the lines of "The ‘terrorist’ who couldn’t think straight":
"’He was just not organized,’ said David Tomscha, who once owned a car lot with Arbabsiar. ‘He would lose the titles to cars. Or he’d say it was a 1989 Grand Marquis when it was an ’82. And when you’d call him on it, he’d say, ‘What’s the difference?’ Eventually, I bought him out.’"
"There is a certain bewilderment in Corpus Christi that anyone as apparently hapless as Arbabsiar could get involved in an international conspiracy. ‘A goofy guy who always had a smile on his face,’ said Mitchel Hamauei, also a store owner. ‘Let me put it this way: He’s no mastermind.’"
Either the Iranian Revolutionary Guards have lowered their standards considerably, or Arbabsiar wasn’t working for them, but for someone else. The question is: who are the real masterminds? Whoever they are, their intent was clear: this
was a plot designed to be discovered.
The sheer implausibility of the position taken by both the US Justice Department and the State Department – that the Iranian government was behind the plot – necessitates a more subtle spin, such as the view taken by Meir Javadenfar, of the Israel-based Middle East Economic and Political Analysis Company. Javadenfar speculates that the whole thing was a "set up" of the Supreme Ayatollah Khamenei by a dissident faction within the Iranian national security apparatus. This assumes, of course, that the patently ridiculous Official Story is true, and even heightens its impact: for if there is a "rogue" element at work within Iranian ruling circles, then the danger is even more extreme. After all, here are presumed radicals who wouldn’t hesitate to bring destruction – in the form of US bombs falling on Tehran – on their own country, and certainly wouldn’t hesitate to inflict the same and worse on American soil.
This view, however, is fatally flawed, in that it assumes the veracity of the Justice Department’s narrative, which, as we have seen, is a fiction that fails – and fails badly – in the realm of character development. It is just not credible that the goofy Arbabsiar, who may have sustained brain damage as the result of a brutal beating he received in his student years, was the mastermind behind a plot that might have proved to be a twenty-first century Sarajevo.
More interesting, and much more credible, is the view of Hamid Serri, an Iran expert at Florida International University, who is cited in the New York Times as suggesting "another alternate explanation for the plot":
"That it could have been the work of a non-Iranian intelligence agency or even a terrorist organization with an interest in creating ‘a confrontation that involves the U.S., Iran and Saudi Arabia.’ Referring to the fact that the only money that apparently changed hands before the alleged plot was exposed was $100,000 wired from what was said to be an Iranian-controlled bank account to a man posing as a member of the Mexican cartel Los Zetas (who turned out to be an informant for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency), Mr. Serri observed that this would be a ‘cheap price’ for an enemy of Iran to pay for the damning headlines that have appeared since the alleged plot was exposed."
Which non-Iranian intelligence agencies and/or terrorist organizations would stand to gain from such a confrontation? I can think of two: the Israelis and al-Qaeda. The former, after all, have been agitating for war quite openly; and as for al-Qaeda, those vultures are likely to be found circling over any Middle Eastern battlefield.
In choosing between these two as the likely culprit, I’ll await fresh evidence before making a final judgment. I would note, however, that al-Qaeda isn’t in very good shape these days, with their top leadership mostly dead, and their ranks scattered and demoralized.
The Israelis, on the other hand, have both the means and the motivation: they are desperate to provoke a war between the US and Iran, and have been for years. Moreover, there are elements of Netanyahu’s government who would stop at nothing to achieve this end. Remember that Avigdor Lieberman is the Foreign Minister, and controls a good chunk of the Israeli national security bureaucracy: his extremist party, the successor to the infamous Kach movement, which wants to deport all Arabs and create a "Greater Israel," is the electoral expression of the radical "settler" movement, which is now defying the Israeli army and carrying out terrorist attacks within Israel. In Weimar Israel, the extremists are on the rise – and they have their supporters within the establishment and the government itself, including the intelligence services.
Analysts often point, almost by default, to the option of attributing the alleged plot to a "rogue faction" of the Iranian government, but it’s just as likely – if not more likely – that this "rogue faction" is Israeli. It wouldn’t be the first time the Israelis have been strongly suspected of carrying out extensive covert activities in the US.
If, indeed, this is the case, then the question arises: has Holder’s Justice Department been duped, or are they complicit in the deception? In this scenario, no doubt evidence of both will rise to the surface, but I’m betting on the former. These are the same people who were duped by the cartels into replenishing their arsenals, and it looks to me like that same undercover operation has been duped — by an unknown third party — into provoking an incident that could lead to World War III.
Another possibility is that the Justice Department thought this up all by themselves, as a way to curry favor within an administration where they’re no doubt on the outs, and also to justify their Mexican operation, of which "Fast and Furious" is but a small part. The Law of Bureaucratic Self-Justification applies here, and that could well be the full explanation – although it may have played a complementary role to Serri’s thesis.
In any case, what you need to know about this case is that it’s one-hundred percent baloney, from start to finish. It’s the crudest sort of war propaganda, the kind that insults the intelligence of the audience it is supposed to convince – and that, too, is a clue to its provenance.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
Julian Borger makes an important point in the Guardian:
“The key evidence that the alleged plot was serious was the $100,000 wire transfer. It came from a foreign bank account, but that cannot be an Iranian account because such transfers are impossible under US law. The money must have come from a third country, but which? And how can the US authorities be so sure the foreign accounts were under the control of the Quds force?”
I have a feeling this case will never come to an open and extended trial, at which the details of this absurdly fishy case would spill out and stink up the courtroom.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Edward Snowden vs. the Sovietization of America – June 18th, 2013
- A Note to My Readers – June 16th, 2013
- Datagate and the Death of American Liberalism – June 13th, 2013
- Smear Brigade Goes After Snowden – June 11th, 2013
- Edward Snowden, American Hero – June 9th, 2013





baz
October 13th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
I couldnt have drafted this plot better if my prime objective was to get caught and look like an absolute boob…
baz
October 13th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
perhaps the israelis and the saudi royals co-operated on this. I had heard that in march, reps from both countries had discussed with US authorities the need to take a swipe at Iran after losing tunisia and egypt so badly to iran-sympathetic/anti-israel and anti-saud movements. perhaps they had been in the planning stages all these last few months.
As a matter of fact, i recall thinking to myself in august how quiet things have got in regards to iran bashing by the US and ISrael
Avi
October 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
There are in fact 'rouge elements' inside Iran. They are known as Mujahideen al-Khalq (MEK).
The organization is recognized by the US State Department as a terrorist organization. Yet, John Bolton was marching with them in France as he called for an American-led attack on Iran.
For several years now, the Mujahideen have been blowing up shrines and other holy places in Iran in order to foment instability and chaos at the behest of you know who (Hint: It's not Israel).
So the Mujahideen — who are Iranian citizens — could easily open bank accounts in Iran and then establish contact with an Iranian-American in the US, thus making it appear as though an Iranian agency were behind the plot.
In short, the Mujahideen are like a casus belli made to order. You want an excuse to attack Iran? No problem. MEK can provide you with the excuse while making it seem as though Iran were behind the plot.
Before the Iraq invasion, the US hired the 'expertise' of a former alleged Iraqi scientist who swore on his children's eyes that Saddam had WMD. That 'expert' would later come to be known as Curveball.
ceti
October 13th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
The Saudis are as gung ho for some Shia blood, having crushed protests in their eastern provinces and helped in Bahrain's mass reppression. Just yesterday, bombs exploded in largely Shia Sadr City. You can also bet that a lot of the terrorists strikes against the Shia that started the Iraqi bloody civil war originated from Saudi Arabia.
It's amazing but not surprising to me that in Libya, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran, the US has been supporting Sunni Islamists. Is it the return of the bad old days of the "moral equivalent of our founding fathers."
Also you just have to read wikileaks to see the Saudis salivating over attacking Iran, willing to forge a new Israel-Saudi axis in the Middle East for this purpose
baz
October 13th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
yup, the israelis frequently use the mek as their pawns in charades like this. particularly whenever they want to announce some new "incriminating" evidence against iran and its nuke energy program
liveload
October 13th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
According to Sen Feinstein, they have a whole stack of operations similar to this one, in the event it become insufficient.
Johnny in Wi.
October 13th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Sounds to me like the Mossad found a dimwitted Iranian immigrant, with money troubles, and fed him a line and some cash. Then they set him up to take the fall. They figure 80% of the people will fall for any hookum. When they fell for Powell and his lies. They will buy anything. One good thing is that nobody believes anything that comes out of the Obama administration anymore, except the most braindead liberals. I think most educated and sane liberals have given up on Mr. Hope and Change.
RickR30
October 13th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
It's a shame that all these serious and intelligent experts are racking their brains about how this could be possible, just who in the Iranian government is behind this and so on rather than outright dismissing it as the fraud it is. There's no mysterious Iran connection to ponder here. Rather, as always, follow the money. Who sent the money? Who is has that kind of money and is willing to spend it?
What is comical about this is that under the new enhanced executive powers, Baruch Ohbamba could just launch his war against Iran the way he did against Libya, while on vacation, without consulting Congress and with little marketing to the American people. Instead in an israeloid schizophrenia, whenever the USG is about to do something immoral and grossly stupid it seeks approval from the people and even the world. The more israel abuses, violates, kills the innocent the more it seeks to be unconditionally loved and worshiped by the West. And as everything else related to foreign policy the US now follow suits and comes up with these contrived charades to get some type of support for war- support that it doesn't even think it needs nor actually care about.
In any event, what needs to happen is a coalition of the few moral and responsible folk to unite against the impending war against Iran. The people have to fight the war party hard on this one.
joe gale
October 13th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
must check out NPR "Talk of the Nation" radio show today. A woman calls up and gives the asshole neal conan a hard time. It was priceless. She just asked the simple question….is it too much to ask for the media to verify stories?
Anyway…everyone seems to have forgotten about the Saudis threatening to cut off support if the US vetoes Palestinian UN vote.
baz
October 13th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
just a few comments about the Quds force, just in case people are not aware who they really are….
The quds force are the most lethal special forces branch in the world….they make the Navy seals and the SAS look like schoolkids. They do not have the money our special forces do, they do not have the equipment, the technology, the logistics support..none of it.
what they do have is the best training. They are trained basically from birth to be completely independent of all the things i just mentioned above. they do not use phones, proxies or fancy weapons. If a member of the quds force wanted to off the saudi ambassador in DC, it would not be a difficult exercise for him to enter the US, walk into a restaurant carrying nothing but a 9mm glock, shoot the saudi at point blank range and walk out without ever being seen again
they are also extremely disciplined and zealous. There are simply NO ROGUE elements in the Quds force. People who make that assumption understand nothing about this group. The possibility of a rogue element is zero…..The chain of command would never be broken in the quds force, however, if this plot were real (which it obviously is not), then it is true that the order would have come from the very very top.
RickR30
October 13th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
They're that good!?
baz
October 13th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
they are scary
baz
October 13th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
they were not the ones who smacked israel in the face in 2006, but they trained the people who did. israel is fortunate they were not fightinging the qods force directly
Dr.Khan
October 13th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Eventually the world has to see the last of the Empires that will emerge from the fall of the not so called American Empire.I would rather call it M.I.C.that was in the first place created to fulfill the prophecy of bringing out final Greater Israel as product of this mess M.I.C has been scattering all over.Iran is the biggest trouble and hurdle for this to be peacefully achieved and for Israel which is basically a Nation of Impatience believe they are running out of time.Therefore they will do anything to accomplish this at any cost.Maybe I wrong and I hope I am but IRAN is next.And for that USA will go any mile to create a story like the current one.If that is so I believe as a Muslim though Sunni and being neighbour to Iran,I will side with them.Every Nation wants to live live in peace but if someone's dsire is to impose WAR then we got to do what will be needed at the time to defend ourselves from the agressors.
JohnDowser
October 13th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
The plot seems as smart-dumb to me as the Nigerian yellow-cake scheme, which magically landed into the President's general address and might have been crucial in prewar preparations.
Yes, it's greasy, easy to debunk, highly doubtful and you'd think any rational official would inquire endlessly before even reaching the most modest of conclusions.
However, it must have been determined long ago by insiders that Washington works according to a different set of rules and laws than anyone else. Any dimwitted engineered story is then customized to a very specific audience – and it's not you – and it's not the media. There's always some 'secret' compound to it which delays journalistic inquiry just long enough to make the item do its instant damage. Only the first weeks count!
It's the same script we've seen so many times over the last decades, only the props change. The audience never does however, even as parties change seats.
sherban
October 14th, 2011 at 12:08 am
But why the plot is unveiled in this moment.I think that it is a reaction to the Iranian steps which show how much they are interested to finish the "conflict"between Iran and "the free world":Iran release some days ago two American tourists accused on spying and Iran gave her accord to stop the uranium enrichment until 20% if Iran will receive it from foreign state.The fear of Israel_US that these steps could change the public opinion to have a more balanced imagine on Iran.
John_Muhammad
October 14th, 2011 at 1:42 am
One need look no farther than the den of jackals that infest the Israeli government. This is a false-flag operation, and a very badly thought out one at that.
Even though I have no love for Israel whatsoever, I am ashamed they would stoop to this amateurish farce. I thought better of them, but now I'm just extremely disappointed their standards have dropped so low.
Oswaldwasalefty
October 14th, 2011 at 2:22 am
No way the U.S. government wasn't involved with this. It's sounds familiar when compared with the other alleged terrorist plots "uncovered" by the FBI. You know, those "terrorist plotters" who turned out to be easily influenced nobodies who could be entrapped in a law enforcement sting operation.
It looks like the Libya operation has emboldened Obama and the rest of Washington into attempting a similar operation against Iran. Considering that Obama has openly stated that most people are worse off than when he assumed office, as indeed they are, it only follows that another "humanitarian" crusade is on the table, even in an election year. There is a deep hatred of Iran in Washington for its successful uprising against the Shaw and its defiance of Washington ever since then. The ultimate pay back just might be around the corner.
And don't forget, we now have a post-don't-ask-don't-tell military, plus, a Democratic president. So we might be witnessing the sad sight of many a gay and lesbian activist cheering on the bombing of Iran in the name of "human rights", which never includes the right to live free from being terrorized by Washington from the air. It would be a very dark hour for the gay and lesbian rights movements if this were to happen, but I'm afraid it will if and when the campaign of revenge against Tehran commences.
SeriousCitizen
October 14th, 2011 at 3:51 am
Bloggers have repeatedly written that the alleged conspiracy reads like "Fast and Furious". But isn't the movie metaphor more likely to be "Fargo". We have a failed car salesman, involved in planning a kidnapping just to get some money. He hires some gangsters. The kidnapping turns into murder. Apparently the conspiracy was originally a kidnapping plan that the DEA agent up-graded to an assassination plan, using explosives. The tragedy in this is that the targets who are going to end up dead, are the millions of people near and downwind of the nuclear reactors that the US and Israel are planning to bomb. The even greater collateral damage will be the 10s of millions of people in the world, including in the USA, who will die of poverty as the global economy completely collapses when half of the current oil supply becomes a war zone and a no-go radiation contamination zone.
Smithboy
October 14th, 2011 at 4:12 am
Arbabsiar is the reincarnation of Curveball. Dear lord, this is WMD's same song second verse.
I did rather enjoy Ed Henry getting smaked down by Obama , as he (Henry) pretended to be Jonah Goldberg. The media push to attack Iran has begun and this time our forces won't be attacking a third rate hack Iraqi military or a taliban like force. A war with Iran could do real damage to our military and treasury, while Bill Kristol and Joe Lieberman sit back and smile.
ElBaradei
October 14th, 2011 at 5:09 am
"Iran ready to acquire nuclear bomb" all over the French news today.
What a coincidence!
Though it seems the IAEA report hasn't reached the US yet.
Berry Friesen
October 14th, 2011 at 5:22 am
Mr. Raimondo, you shouldn't dismiss too quickly the possibility that al Qaeda was behind this. It too is riddled with U.S. intelligence agents who make that rag-tag bunch of jihadists pretty effective when they (the U.S. intelligence agents) put a plan in motion.
It's happened before, as you may recall, in the incident over Detroit on Christmas day 2009. That's when al Qaeda overcame all of the security precautions associated with international flight and put explosives in the underwear of a passenger who was on a no-fly list and didn't have a passport to enter the U.S..
It's also what happened ten years ago when al Qaeda outwitted virtually the entire world to pull off the most astonishing attack in world history.
With the kind of help al Qaeda has at its disposal, we dare not sell them short!
stevieb
October 14th, 2011 at 6:01 am
It's obvious to me, at least, that the Israel Lobby has changed tactics and gone for a false-flag terror 'plot' to eccelerate their 'jihad' against Iran – seeing as they can't get it done any other way.
I hope it happens because as we all know a military confrontation with Iran is potentially disasterous for the U.S. Iran and the world. And maybe then western democracies will wake up to the threat Zionism poses to those very political systems…
stevieb
October 14th, 2011 at 6:09 am
I don't think Israeli intelligence was behind this. It looks like Israel Lobby influence has extended into the FBI and the DEA(rememeber all those Israeli spies staking out DEA offices?)to me.
Your second paragraph is a bit laughable, I have to say. If your ashamed of this – assuming they has any direct role in it – and you 'thought better of them", I can assure you – you have absolutely no idea just how low they can go…
Terrance&Philip
October 14th, 2011 at 6:10 am
One would have thought that after the lies told about Iraq's WMD's our "best" and "brightest" would have learned to question stories like this, best suited for B-grade movies. One would have also imagined that after allowing America to be dragged into two bankruptingly expensive and immoral wars, they would have been hesitant to go marching off to war with another country in the ME with such cheerful alacrity.
(Given the idiocy of American leadership now so obvious, no one should be surprised that Americans now regard their rulers with such contempt.)
stevieb
October 14th, 2011 at 6:13 am
Yesterday I sent an email to Hiliary Clinton – after her typical bellicosity about crushing Iran – asking "Who do you think you're fooling?"
I wonder if I'll get a response?
Terrance&Philip
October 14th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Arbasiar being a QUDS sleeper agent is about as plausible as Woody Allen working for Shin Beit or the Mossad.
JLS
October 14th, 2011 at 7:10 am
The real story, the big story, is the American media's uncritical acceptance of everything the government said when this story was first released.
El Tonno
October 14th, 2011 at 7:20 am
They are still not "Leon" with Persian accent. That's Hollywood stuff.
El Tonno
October 14th, 2011 at 7:23 am
>>Either the Iranian Revolutionary Guards have lowered their standards considerably
The sanctions are working!
Also, why bomb in Argentina??? Because there was once a bomb targeting a Jewish Community center, which, IIRC was somehow traced to someone who might have been connected to Hezbollah but was rather more likely to be the work of the far right?
RickR30
October 14th, 2011 at 7:28 am
It's a surprise the Mossad isn't taking them out one by one then.
Rasputin2
October 14th, 2011 at 8:47 am
A likely suspect is the MEK (MKO) with help from Mossad.
The origin of the wire transfer will be obscured by Treasury Department's David Cohen if it doesn't fit the storyline.
charley caruso
October 14th, 2011 at 9:47 am
I wouldnt rule that out. Woody's movies havent been doing so well lately.
charley caruso
October 14th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Let's see. Wasnt a 'Libyan hit squad' roaming the U.S. a few years back planning to kill Reagan and dozens of others? Mebbe the writer who dreamed that up is at work again.
Dr.Khan
October 14th, 2011 at 9:54 am
USG not Americans will get what they wish for,I promise
Dr.Khan
October 14th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Hollywood has fictional Characters such Superman,Batman,Spiderman etc,CIA has their few,like Communist,Al Qaeda,Taliban Haqqani's etc etc.The only difference between the two is Hollywood contends with SEQUAL eachtime while CIA has to create a new one wachtime..Badluck.The point is no matter what all these are the creation of the same creator CIA eachtime customed to serve their next adventure.But for how long?
The prophet
October 14th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Regardless of whether this fake story is debunked, it is out there and will be remendered for years and qouted as true by all the media that first reportrd it. The damage is done, now comes the consequenzes.
baz
October 14th, 2011 at 10:22 am
congratulations, you are now on "the list"
Strider55
October 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Justin, the Mexican drug lords didn't "dupe" Holder's (In)Justice Dept. into anything. It should be obvious by now that Holder (likely with Obama's personal green light) instigated the whole F&F fiasco to scare the American sheeple into supporting their goal of a massive gun grab — as I called it here awhile back, a false-flag op against the 2nd Amendment. Recall Obama assuring his hoplophobic Sturmabteilungen more than a year ago that he was working to implement gun
confiscationcontrol "under the radar."BTW, the phrase "Weimar Israel" is a keeper!
Smithboy
October 14th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Maybe we don' t say it enough, but thank God for Justin and everyone at Antiwar.com.
While our politicians and the corperate media bow and scrape to Israel and it's bloodthirsty zeal to attack Iran, using our military, Antiwar is zealous in exposing those US seanators and representatives who keep copies of Project for a New American Century in their pockets, rather than the US constitution they swore to protect.
From the bottom of my heart…thank you.
Terrance&Philip
October 14th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Sorry. Ain't gonna happen. She was too busy trying on her latest pants suit.
San Fernando Curt
October 14th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I think you're right. Holder's Justice Department is on the hot seat and wouldn't risk cooking up such a lame-brained plan, but it could latch onto it as theatrical proof it's really doing its job. Rand's quote makes the same point as the question, "Who benefits". Who or what is the only entity to benefit from this scheme? …Only Israel. This may not be the Lobby's Pearl Harbor Moment, but we can be sure it'll be part of an accumulation of phony "outrages" leading us to yet another unnecessary war. Cui bono?
San Fernando Curt
October 14th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
"There are simply NO ROGUE elements in the Quds force." There's simply no credibility in your assessment of these superhuman hyper-ninjas.
liberranter
October 14th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
And you know all of this how?
John_Muhammad
October 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Ashamed in the sense that they are not living up to their reputation as ruthless, cunning operators- it's a bit of a letdown when you find out the enemy you feared so much is nothing more than a bad copy of the Keystone Cops.
rodney
October 14th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
one of the purported reason for americana nd her bastard allies to stay in iraq after saddam hussian throw -was to portect shias agasint crule fundamentalist sunni establishment of saddam-as told by the angloamerican laying shameless media. now shia protector has becoem shia huneter! usa and britian are such parasites pest that they will devour the host without any qualm
Generalissimo X
October 14th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
well once people believe that steel frame buildings defy the laws of physics and collapse into themselves at free fall they'll believe anything..except maybe this. and even if you totally believe this to be not a complete fabrication (like all the "terror plots") how can any sane human being even suggest that a proportionate response is declaring war on a nation of some 70 million or so people?? so millions upon millions have to suffer for some sad lunatic who doesn't even live in iran?? good god. again assuming this nefarious plot to be true, let's say the guy was successful on all counts. how does that affect anyone in the united states at all? it doesn't. it's a brutal criminal act to be sure, but just like all crimes, find the criminal(s), arrest them, try them in open court, and if found guilty of murder, then the judge can issue the sentence that is appropriate to the crime. we murder women and children on a daily basis in iraq and afghanistan but it's iran who's bent on war and "evil"?!?!? the magnitude of someone stupid enough to believe this is incomprehensible.
Generalissimo X
October 14th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
100% dead on.. there was no "accident' or duping involved in fast and furious. it's a hallmark covert op. and if anyone thinks we don't have a hand in both creating and maintaing the current drug war in mexico they need to better understand the cia and wall st.
BINSAFI
October 14th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
This Empire, is Drunk on Power!
They're Drinking too MUCH, of the Kool-Aid!!
They're starting to Believe their own Lies…………….
Peace, Love & Respect.
Tim Osman
October 15th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Anybody who doesn't believe that Iran is behind this evil terrorist plot is an anti-Semite, Jew-Baiter, Holocaust Denier, and probably hates the work of Steven Spielberg to boot.
God Bless the United States of Israel and the Israeli-American government for protecting us from evil-doers everywhere!
Peace 4 R Time
October 15th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
My guess is that this is just a way to curry favor with Saudi Arabia (which considers the US veto of the Palestinian statehood bid 'toxic') in time to avoid oil price increases: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeq…
A. G. Phillbin
October 16th, 2011 at 12:41 am
I have to agree with stevieb, below, and for one major reason: the Israelis would never have come up with something as patently stupid as the Iranian Quds force using Mexican drug cartels to do their dirty work. The Israelis would KNOW that the Iranians would never use non-Moslem — no, scratch that — non-SHIA actors for such a sensitive mission, especially an organization that is riddled with police and DEA infiltrators, as Mexican drug gangs are likely to be. This sounds like it was cooked up by US intelligence, with heavy participation of DEA or FBI. These guys love to link up their law enforcement targets with "terrorism," since it assures them of even more congressional largesse. An Israeli intelligence operative wouldn't give a rat's ass about US drug enforcement, especially if it makes the narrative look ridiculous.
A. G. Phillbin
October 16th, 2011 at 12:46 am
Hoplophobic — I've got to remember that one. whoever came up with that one knew about ancient Greek military tech and formations.
eric siverson
October 16th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
No ! I think this came from Iraq not Iran , Maybe the same Iraqi soldiers that pulled the plugs on all the incubaters on the premature babies in Kuwait .
Strider55
October 16th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Good piece of sarcasm. I just hope everyone else got it too.
Asher Black
October 17th, 2011 at 12:28 am
Any neocon thinktank/action group that can't get $100K together to sponsor a shift in foreign policy … well just doesn't exist. The only flaw in the article is seeing a distinction between Israel on the one hand, and other elements that have long since been allied to it in the US on the other, dispensationalist evangelicalism (with it's insistence on the need for an ultimate war in the Middle East), neocon American imperialists (with their insistence that all things serve US hegemony), the financial interests invested heavily in arms, energy, and transportation for whom war is always a tremendous windfall, and the financial and banking apparatus that funds such wars, because of the vast profits to be made, that are very much needed right now. If we're looking an official establishment conspiracy theory in the eye and calling that conspiracy theory a conspiracy, let's be open-minded about it, then. :)
jane doe
October 20th, 2011 at 7:32 am
You lost me once as a reader now you've done it again!!! I know justin has a dedicated "following" and that he touts ron paul for prez and perhaps if all his "following" votes for Paul he'll get in but that would be a GREAT MISTAKE!!!
NOW he's quoting paul's sweet heart: "But as Ayn Rand once said: " this is a deadly combination and I'm out of it again! I actually got this message from a friend in the UK but don't blame her, she can't read everthing she sends me.
Nothing can ever convince me to vote for ron paul NOR read anything written by ayn rand who wrote the code book for the verty same people who are getting richer while the poor are suffering.