Why Is America Committing Suicide?
The US of A on the road to ruin
America is committing suicide. That’s the only explanation I have for the course followed by US policymakers in the past decade, a period in which the US budget deficit has skyrocketed beyond all reason. While we have run up deficits before, some of them considerable by the standards of the day, in 2001 – the year we launched our endless “war on terrorism” – the deficit began to enter new territory. Whereas before it had fluctuated, going up, down, and effectively maintaining a steady state of neutral, after the 9/11 terrorist attacks this country went into debt bigtime, with the deficit climbing steadily, doubling in 2007, and nearly doubling again the next fiscal year.
In the name of fiscal “austerity,” Congress recently authorized yet another raising of the debt ceiling, and everyone sits around waiting for the “draconian” cuts to fall – a “cut,” that is, in the rate at which government spending is projected to grow. Only in Washington, D.C., is a “cut” actually an increase – just not as much of an increase as was anticipated. As Ron Paul pointed out, if Congress had simply frozen spending at 2004 levels, we’d have more of a “cut” than we do now.
No one is surprised by this Washington doubletalk: that’s the language they speak in the Imperial City, where murdering civilians is “collateral damage” and taxation is “revenue enhancement” instead of good old-fashioned theft. It’s silly season on Capitol Hill: so what else is new? Yet I sense a more sinister pattern in this Kabuki theater known as the debt ceiling drama, the implications of which are darker than I care to contemplate — but then again, that’s my job …
While governments can only finance their completely non-productive (in reality: counter-productive) activities by incurring debt, it’s rare in human history to find profligacy comparable to our own. One has to go all the way back to ancient Rome, under the heel of its more depraved emperors, to find a precedent. The numbers are not merely astonishing: they are inconceivable. The figure — $14.3 trillion – must forever remain in the world of abstractions, because any attempt by the human brain to concretize it fails. How do our lawmakers imagine we can continue to spend at these levels, living light years beyond our means?
Their recklessness is epitomized by how the military budget came out in all the deficit dickering. As it stands, real defense cuts only kick in if the “super-Congress” fails to come to an agreement on what cuts to make. Then and only then will the misnamed “defense” department come in for something approximating its fair share of cuts. Put another way: only in the most extreme and politically next-to-impossible case will Congress even consider cutting back on its overseas empire. They’ll yank your grandmother off her dialysis machine before they’ll contemplate getting rid of “foreign aid.”
We ordinary folk live in a completely different world than the movers and shakers of the Imperial City: no one outside the Beltway bubble can really understand the mental processes that allow for such a massive evasion of reality, a kind of collective madness that infects the ruling elite in this country, regardless of party. They talk down to the hoi polloi, and use a different language when they converse among themselves, but occasionally the truth comes out. In 2004, Ron Suskind wrote a piece for the New York Times Magazine which included this quote from an unnamed top White House aide:
“The aide said that guys like me were ‘in what we call the reality-based community,’ which he defined as people who ‘believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.’ … ‘That’s not the way the world really works anymore,’ he continued. ‘We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.’”
While the context was a discussion of the Iraq war, this mindset – which is dominant in the Washington of Barack Obama just as it was during the Bush era – pervades our ruling elite in all matters. Why shouldn’t they run up a $14.3 trillion debt — after all, don’t they create their own reality? Armed with such supernatural powers, we aren’t going to let a little thing like impending bankruptcy stand in our way – not when we can wish it out of existence.
Except we can’t. World markets trembled this week, and all indications are that the Big One is just now visible over the horizon. Americans are waking from their decade-long dream – or is that nightmare? – to discover that the world as they used to know it is falling apart, and a new world – a poorer, more restrictive, grayer world — is dawning. Yet our “leaders” in Washington are oblivious to the crisis, as much as they posture and pose: they are, personally, practically invulnerable to the effects of the economic collapse – at least, so far – and so don’t take it seriously. Encased in their self-created bubble, and imbued with the radical subjectivism that has taken hold everywhere but in the sorely beleaguered reality-based community, our rulers pursue policies that are suicidal in their effect, if not their intent. And I am beginning to wonder if that isn’t their intent, at least on some level….
I put this out there as a proposition, a speculation, based solely on evidence of the circumstantial sort. When someone habitually engages in suicidal behavior, repeating the same pattern in spite of recognizing, on some level, that their actions are self-destructive, one has to wonder if they harbor a death wish. Which raises the question: So why is the American ruling class intent on committing suicide?
There is a theory of history, which I don’t agree with, that treats civilizations as organic entities which go through a process of maturation, progressing from youth to senility in stages roughly comparable to the life process of a human being. Could the Spenglerians be right? Is American civilization entering a new phase — one of terminal decadence? This isn’t the first time I’ve thought of these lines from Robinson Jeffers’ poem, “Shine, Perishing Republic”:
“While this America settles in the mould of its vulgarity, heavily thickening
to empire
And protest, only a bubble in the molten mass, pops and sighs out, and the
mass hardens,
I sadly smiling remember that the flower fades to make fruit, the fruit rots
to make earth.
Out of the mother; and through the spring exultances, ripeness and decadence;
and home to the mother.
You making haste haste on decay: not blameworthy; life is good, be it stubbornly
long or suddenly
A mortal splendor: meteors are not needed less than mountains:
shine, perishing republic.”
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- A Note to My Readers – June 16th, 2013
- Datagate and the Death of American Liberalism – June 13th, 2013
- Smear Brigade Goes After Snowden – June 11th, 2013
- Edward Snowden, American Hero – June 9th, 2013
- Police-State ‘Progressivism’ – June 6th, 2013





Nelson_2008
August 4th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
It's committing suicide because of three factors:
(1) The "people" that are running things behind the scenes are not only demonically evil psychopaths, but they're on a quest for world rule, for which they've already committed so many monstrously inhuman crimes, they simply can't stop now. It's an all or nothing situation for them.
(2) The intermediaries, i.e., the political whores taking orders from the psychopaths, e.g., Obama, Biden, Graham, McCain, etc., are so malignantly narcissistic, so morally incompetent, so spiritually empty inside, that they "know not what they do". All they can do is take orders; they simply have no moral reasoning ability or any other human-like functional abilities.
Nelson_2008
August 4th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
(3) The vast majority of the people in this country have been so hopelessly brainwashed and/or have become such shameless moral cowards, that they simply cannot face the truth. That's why they continue to wave flags and join the Army, and go work in the factories that make the bombs that America drops on the rest of the world, and vote for establishment candidates, etc. They're the willing participants in their own destruction. The worse our Masters get, the more heinous their crimes, the more absurd the self-deception of the benighted masses.
Taken together, it seems we have everything in place that we need to end the world as we know it.
skulz fontaine
August 4th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
A different perspective. Corruption rots. Absolute corruption rots absolutey. Time to pay the piper.
musings
August 4th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
I had an odd reaction on 9/11 – perhaps I took it personally because I was born in Washington DC and five generations of my family lived there, perhaps I took it personally because one of the pilots of those doomed planes went to high school with me (if I believe all the data about that day, he was the one who hit the Pentagon). My reaction was: if you suckers could not protect the Capital with all the money we pay you, what good are you? So I thought the public would actually question all the military spending- because what the heck did it accomplish when they had all that warning and everything – more than an hour? I scratched my head and tried to understand all the details of the event, I went over and over it.
And I see our decline as intimately related to it. Maybe it is really that peak oil and the competition from Asia is getting to us, maybe someone is trying to push our wages down to slave levels, and to dumb us into inanity. That is my view from the leftist side of the ledger, while my view of military spending is from the right.
I think people live in lies and repeat them to each other. And the comfortable ones don't even need to lie, they can just wink and apply their shibboleths when they speak. Are you in or are you out? The only important question today is, do you have "pull". It's down to that level of tribalism, where government is concerned. There is no objective criterion for deciding, for instance, whether a "Super Congress" is legal or illegal, constitutional or not. Who cares enough to debate it? Notice much of that going on, when it used to be said: "Taxation without representation is tyranny." Well, perhaps we shall understand at last what that quaint phrase from the reality-based past truly means. We've already stopped using the word liberty, haven't we? Because we needed security.
No, you don't have to quote Spengler to me. I think our own 18th century patriots had the right words, the right ideas, to identify a government in an advanced state of decadence, although they meant that of George III.
Johnny in Wi.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
When the Eastern elites and the intellectuals took over this country with Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson this country was doomed. We have been on a downhill slide ever since. They were both war mongering internationalists who abandoned the old America which was concerned with this hemisphere and not much else. People here could care less about Europe and the rest of the world. It is time to go back to the good old days of America First. Let the world defend itself. We are broke.
musings
August 4th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Yes, but why precisely are the chickens coming home to roost now? Or are they?
I think we are at a turning point, no doubt. But if you look at history, you can see examples of craziness on the floor of the Senate (pre-Civil War) or Parliament becoming out of hand in England. This time it's different. Or is it? Hate to be a party-pooper, but I am not into End Times thinking. Have we really been on nothing but a downhill slide since Wilson? Or Roosevelt? Aren't our contradictions even older than that? What about the Mexican War which grabbed so much territory it inevitably led to a fight about slavery coming into the new acquisitions? Did those living in those territories ask to be annexed? Is conquest ever the same thing as "consent of the governed"? Isn't that why Texans are so weird, why they keep harping on sovereignty? Well that would put our sins very far in the past, wouldn't it? I cast aside the Native American question because to my knowledge the population density of that group was pretty small here, although yes, they were not consenting to much either. We have these fictions about ourselves and what seems to be happening right now is that the narrative we tell ourselves about ourselves has just gotten stretched way too thin. It is turning into nonsense. Of course some people have no trouble with saluting the flag of the United States of Confusion. It makes it easier for them not to think too much about how what we say and what we do are diverging so much.
But what will rile everyone and soon may be bankruptcy. That will make them sit up and take notice.
Claus Eric Hamle
August 4th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Not only the US but the world is on a suicide course because the bloody fools in the Pentagon aim to achieve a disarming and unanswerable first strike capability, maybe "only" for diplomatic blackmail. Trident missile engineer Bob Aldridge -www.plrc.org-wrote me on the missiles in Bulgaria, Romania and Poland: "Whether they are on ships or land, they are still a necessary component for an unanswerable first strike." To take out the missiles surviving First Strike with Minuteman-3 and Trident-2. According to Bob Aldridge the US Navy can track and destroy all enemy submarines simultaneously. This leads to Launch On Warning, probably by 2014. Bloody fools in the Pentagon !
mickperry
August 5th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Just so everyone is clear:
A million seconds is 12 days.
A billion seconds is 31 years.
A trillion seconds is 31,688 years.
A million minutes ago was – 1 year, 329 days, 10 hours and 40 minutes ago.
A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.
A million hours ago was in 1885.
A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.
A million dollars ago was five (5) seconds ago at the U.S. Treasury.
A billion dollars ago was late yesterday afternoon at the U.S. Treasury.
[Note: this was pre-Obama]
A trillion dollars is so large a number that only politicians
can use the term in conversation… probably because they
seldom think about what they are really saying. I've read that
mathematicians do not even use the term trillion!
Here is some perspective on TRILLION:
1 Trillion = 1,000,000,000,000.
The country has not existed for a trillion seconds.
Western civilization has not been around a trillion seconds.
One trillion seconds ago – 31,688 years – Neanderthals stalked the plains of Europe.
Million: 1,000,000
Billion: 1,000,000,000
Trillion: 1,000,000,000,000
and you the people of the USA, formerly the richest and most abundantly resourced continent on the face of this planet owe 14 of them to the private banking cartels – good isn't it?
From 'Sirk' on the Yahoo comments thread.
JLS
August 5th, 2011 at 12:43 am
Let it commit suicide then. The American people and the rest of the world will be sooo much better off without the oppressive freedom hating US government.
I thought this line was particularly good Justin:
Put another way: only in the most extreme and politically next-to-impossible case will Congress even consider cutting back on its overseas empire. They’ll yank your grandmother off her dialysis machine before they’ll contemplate getting rid of “foreign aid.”
JohnDowser
August 5th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Justin, in what way do you not agree with the theory that "treats civilizations as organic entities which go through a process"? Decadence and militarism, the core businesses of 'empire' seem to go hand in hand with a terminal stage of what's so loosely called "civilization". It's like the rotting of a mighty tree trunk after it has fallen but somehow the awareness of the fall and the rot has not set in yet (the role of the simulacrum).
Doom and gloom are not necessarily the type of vocabulary to describe this process. The "latter" stages of empire not always have been that bad. The 'grass roots" of new organisms, new 'models' are already at invisibly at work to move in or transform the old spot. A bit of the old and a bit of the new. It's the hardest thing in these times to think of a future which might work out, which will not be catastrophic for the people but only for certain "elites" and misguided ideologues. But I think this is exactly the challenge in all current exchange and debate: to be able to reach for such future, to reach for the ideas until something takes hold.
MoT
August 5th, 2011 at 12:52 am
I hear the sound of "default" in the air. Which, to be quite honest, is the only thing that can come of this train-wreck in slow motion. And that's not really such a bad thing in the long run. What absolutely must happen after the fact is for the bastards who led us over the cliff to never have their hands in public matters ever again. You'd have to be insane to let these vermin loose.
John_Muhammad
August 5th, 2011 at 3:48 am
Are we heading for a Mad Max scenario in the all-too-near future? I don't know, but I have a sneaky suspicion whatever happens is going to involve a very public Us-versus-Them showdown, and it's going to be between average citizens and the government. Sadly, I also believe that- whether we want it or not- this showdown is going to involve not a little armed resistance and what one side will call the Second American Revolution and the other side will call Domestic Terrorism (and use that moniker to call out the troops, no doubt). I do NOT want to see this happen- our first Civil War nearly broke our nation in two and set brother against brother- but if it takes another Lexington to galvanize this nation, so then so be it. Our politicians know exactly where they are leading this once-great nation, and the citizenry can stand only so much before they rise up and say in one thunderous voice, "ENOUGH!"
Phil Giraldi
August 5th, 2011 at 4:47 am
I think part of the problem is that the old American elite was somewhat restrained in its ambitions and greed while the current lot of arrivistes is both infinitely covetous and completely insensitive to the consequences of its own behavior. Add in the fact that they can get away with anything including torture and murder because the government holds no one accountable, and it is a witch's brew that is quickly leading to disaster. The only solution is complete retrenchment – bring home the soldiers and sailors and scrap the aircraft carriers – but I don't see that happening with the current crop of scoundrels on Capitol Hill and in the White House. They know they will come out all right no matter what happens to the rest of us.
JLS
August 5th, 2011 at 4:51 am
I could see a Soviet style implosion and breakaway states. At this point it'd be better than what we have now.
Geo1671
August 5th, 2011 at 4:53 am
Don't get fooled–this debt problrm has been in the works–years in planning. USA is actually a world bank–prints money at will. The plan is to bring in a cashless sociaty and every money transaction will be credit/debit card recorded.IRS will love it.
Regarding Just'in's comment "after the 9/11 terrorist attacks this country went into debt bigtime",He should be specific in the term used "terrorists" and to whom it applies. Arabs had nothing to do with the 9II self inflicted Clinton/Bush/Sharon PLANNED attacks-
:^(
richard vajs
August 5th, 2011 at 5:15 am
Of course, America has a death wish. Millions of Americans (Evangelicals), actually pray that total and probably nuclear war would break out in the Middle East so that they can be raptured up out their humdrum lives, and mustered into Jesus's avenging army.
Terrance&Philip
August 5th, 2011 at 6:17 am
The old American elite believed in "original sin." Whether it's rooted in our biology or some fall caused by a distant ancestor is unimportant. But, they understood the ultimately tragic nature of the human condition and that even the wisest of men acting without restraint and caution could make a real cock-up of things. Our current crop of "elites" know no restraint, believing instead that man really is the measure of all things, and that "heaven" will only be achieved if they build it themselves and then here on earth. Or, put another way, they have taken the place of God, trusting that if they only try hard enough, there'll never be a final reckoning.
Terrance&Philip
August 5th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Here's a thought. Restore national sovereignty: End the private banking cartels.
Terrance&Philip
August 5th, 2011 at 6:26 am
A break-up of the union would also slow (or even reverse) the empire's global expansion.
BrettM
August 5th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Suicide? If the people who are killing America are insulated from the problems they're causing and we are the ones who will suffer because of their actions, then I submit that suicide is not an appropriate term. Pulling the plug on grandma's dialysis is not suicide, since suicides kill themselves, not others. Try "murder".
NavyVietnamWarVet
August 5th, 2011 at 7:48 am
EVERY condition that led to the fall of the Roman Empire exists in America today – in particular MORAL DECAY that permeates ALL segments of American society, especially our Government and even our churches.
That we have idiots and morons, perverts, crooks and thieves in our White House and in our Congress is a serious criticism – but – the worst criticism that can be leveled is that they are all TRAITORS to America and to the American people.
And sadly – the American people have become savages and barbarians – some 25,000+ are murdered each year by fellow Americans.
Policial correctness and cultural diversity are roads to ruin.
As to all of those brainwashed dumbed down people who actually believe what their idiot religious leaders are preaching about the 'rapture' – go read your Bible and try to find the term 'rapture' in it.
ALL 'empires' fall – it is now the turn of the US to fall.
RickR30
August 5th, 2011 at 7:52 am
I've yet to see a large legacy institution make a change on it's own in the face of impending doom. GM didn't do it, the UAW didn't do it. On a smaller scale no American household did it during the housing/credit mania. People are going to hope that the good times continue, till the very last second. The US government being such a large, slow, dumb monster surely isn't going to move a finger until reality forced it to. Now, you would think that it would, since it's made up of, allegedly, such brilliant minds, all from harvard/yale/goldman crap. There just isn't anyone with the leadership to bring about change.
Now, as to whether the suicide is intended, I would say that it is. There is no way no one in the government knows that the catastrophe isn't coming. The US budget is unsustainable, it has no basis in reality (like manufacturing), it's all based on funny money being pushed back and forth. And yet they persist on this. Why? Because every time there is a financial crisis, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class shrinks. And that has been the financial goal of the US for a while now. When the big financial crisis hits, the middle class will disappear altogether, it will become the new poor class. The rich, who at this very moment are probably betting a ton of money on the US going under, are going to make a killing. And the poor most likely will end up dying on the streets. The rich are going to be unaffected by this upcoming crisis as they have their money in Euros, Francs, pounds, gold, silver, platinum, copper, properties, huge pieces of land, etc. Then there will be some time of global bailout for the US, paid by China, Japan, Germany, the UN, the WB, the IMF, etc. That is going straight to US banks who in turn hand it out their rich buddies to get richer.
Heathcliff_Maw
August 5th, 2011 at 8:10 am
There are things we could do to decrease the deficit that would not hurt a recovery: end the wars, end foreign aid, decrease military spending besides ending the wars. Money flows out of the economy through all those things, especially maintaining foreign military bases. Most of the rest of the military budget is a corporate welfare program for the politically connected.
We should also raise taxes on incomes above a certain level (like at least $1-million) because that money largely just sits in savings while there is little business investment going on. Corporations are sitting on two trillion dollars of cash reserves because the economy is so weak.
Beyond that, the government needs to run deficits for the next few years so that we can grow our way out of the recession and the deficit. Further austerity measures should come later. Keynes was absolutely right. Interest rates are near zero and the economy is stagnant because we are in a liquidity trap caused by trillions of dollars of wealth being wiped out in 2008. That caused a collapse of aggregate demand. This is the first recession since the Great Depression that requires Keynes' solution to such a liquidity trap. (Keynes believed that monetary policy should be used instead when dealing with cyclical recessions.)
Seedmother
August 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
America first! Ask native Americans how they feel about that one. Imperialism is a human trait not a national characterization, isn't it?
Generalissimo X
August 5th, 2011 at 8:46 am
the american elite is not committing suicide. they are killing us, the people. the fractional rerserve banking system was created with this express purpose in mind. there is nothing accidental about any of the current and coming calamities. 9-11 was the moment when the global elite began to push for their endgame. despite a few set backs, they are succeeding. again, the demise of the american republic is no accident. it's not suicide, it's murder.
icr
August 5th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Jeffers' great book of antiwar poems:
http://www.amazon.com/Double-Other-Including-Elev…
Max Shields
August 5th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Part I – I think the notion that we can simply cut government spending, regardless of how much that appears to be common sense, misses an important practical point. This economy (much of which is financial and off-shored/global) is extremely interrelated and complex. Cutting social security or medicare/medicaid before looking at the drainage from war and global occupation is the arse backwards way of looking at priorities and cuts in spending. First cut the intervention and occupation and then scale back on the military corporate complex. That is a wise direction.
Representative Paul, in my estimation, has it half right. But he is a "free enterprise" sort that is less enamored with governmnent role and would like to swap much of that for privatization. This is just trading devils. One which is voted in and in the "public" domain; for the other, which is whole owned by Wall Street (I'm not talking about small businesses/Main Street). Private business lives off of public investment. There is no business without public investment PERIOD. We need to understand this.
Max Shields
August 5th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Part II – What will drive this economy to its appropriate size is not the market (as in Wall Street) but energy and its depletion. We need to prepare our economic and life-style to match what could be a catastrophic economic collapse. It can be done if we stop listening to Paul's wrong-headed notions about economics; and pay attention to his correct notions of global warfare.
SeriousCitizen
August 5th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Risky and reckless behavior may or may not be suicidal. But the actual act of national suicide will be the upcoming war on Iran. Persian Gulf War III, will not be a happy-ending sequel to Persian Gulf War I and Persian Gulf War II. We will blow up the oil infrastructure in the region from where comes half of the world's oil, and permanently contaminate the region with radiation after we blow up Iran's reactors. Remember, it has never happened in history that a loaded nuclear reactor was intentionally blown up. Put oil at $200 or $400 per barrel and see what happens to the US economy. Suicide.
Incidentally, to get a feel for how large is a trillion, guess how many years are a trillion seconds. You know, tick, tick, tick seconds on a clock. Guess. I guess 300 or 400 years. It is 38,000 years. If you pay out a dollar per second, day and night, non-stop, weekends and holidays included, it would take 38,000 years to pay out $1 trillion.
JMG
August 5th, 2011 at 10:01 am
From a Zionist perspective, the more dysfunctional American culture, the less appealing it is to Jewish Americans and to Jewish Israelis. The Zionists see a benefit to that.
JMG
August 5th, 2011 at 10:03 am
From a Zionist perspective, the more dysfunctional American culture is, the less appealing it is to J-ewish Americans and to J-wish Israelis. The Zionists probably see a benefit to that.
andy
August 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
America's political establishment are very stupid, lack historical sense, are corrupt and bought and paid for. I see what happened to the USSR as happening here.
musings
August 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am
I always worry about the analogy to the Soviet Union. Our rivalry with them was very much manipulated: they were never all that great as a nation. Did people run there or try to get out of it? Various Tsars annexed incompatible regions for gain or security, without regard for local traditions. The Soviet leaders nodded in the direction of acknowledging some of the character of those regions, but they did it with the same imperial attitude, and they didn't mind imposing harsh reforms which starved some of the most productive people in their orbit. They persecuted those who questioned their authority.
Whatever the sins of the US, it has been about a kind of Benthamite "greatest happiness for the greatest number" – a utilitarian philosophy to some extent, hidden in pragmatism and the fruits of the Protestant Reformation, as well as the Enlightenment. The whole evolution of the US was radically different from the Soviet Union. Blacks' conditions were similar to serfdom, before and after slavery, but they remained a minority in the US. People entered the US with hope, and some of those hopes were realized. This is polar opposite to the former Soviet Union.
I personally have roots in many of the United States. I have relatives everywhere, and no Tsar planted them there. Perhaps a few followed the railroads. Most just looked out for themselves. That is far and away the most typical way Americans have moved about a very big place. It's not a nation of different nationalities, it is e pluribus unum. Yes, immigration has changed those working at the bottom of the social system. There is a lot of cheap labor from Latin America right now, some of it in unfamiliar places like New England and the South. This unnerves some people, who worry that the differences will never be resolved. It has happened before.
The myths get stretched thin. Public education is in trouble. The power of collective bargaining is in disrepair. Lots of troubles.
But I don't listen to Russians writing in translation about the fall of the US. I don't share their schadenfreude about every slip my country makes. We may be on the verge of giving up our identity and forgetting about our liberty. But I think the problem is more subtle than that. And so far, we have few of the inherent flaws of the Soviet system. I don't imagine we ever will, unless we allow education to slip away and serfdom to prevail. Then that would be a disaster which would send us down their road- but think about it. For the Soviets, it was a good thing to break up. For us it would serve no useful purpose.
Nelson_2008
August 5th, 2011 at 11:17 am
The old "American elite", evil though it was, was at least mostly "American". Now we've got a bunch of psychopaths sacrificing the country for the sake of an alien ideology.
RickR30
August 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Agreed. The idea that corporate America operates (or should) in a state-free vacuum is baloney. And so is the whole dichotomy of government vs. corporations. They are joined at the hip and love each other deeply. Corporations like nothing more than getting an unfair advantage from the government. And government loves giving it to them and handing out contracts to friends in corporate America. It's a highly permeable wall that separates both full of revolving doors. Both can be evil and corrupt.
jeff_davis
August 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
"Not going to happen."
I put the quotes around it to acknowledge that this is only an assertion, my strong opinion, and that the future remains indeterminate,…ie, I could be wrong.
Look at the level of militarization in the US. We have endless legions of cops. Cops of every type. With more every day: new hires arriving daily, back from the US foreign military adventure du jour. Coming home and looking for a job where there are no jobs — not for lowly "grunts" — except as, well, domestic grunts, ie cops. .
And spooks, too. A nation of spooks. Of course you're familiar with the old guard alphabet soup: CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI, etc. But now, thanks to the GWoT, the Dept of Homeland Security, and the Patriot Act, we have the government funded — with billions of dollars worth of electronically invented "funny money" — legion of private spook enterprises. Orwellian total surveillance has arrived. To keep you "safe", of course. Ostensibly intended to ferret out actual "terrorists" — remind me again what that word means — but surprise, surprise, able to turn on a dime and be "re-purposed" to identify any hint of domestic "disloyalty".
The notion that anyone will be able to confront this behemoth with some sort of active opposition — armed or otherwise — is at worst suicidal, at best delusional. But hey!, you wanna give it a try?,…go for it.
No, the US, deluded by suicidal "patriotism", will be consumed by the cancer of militarism. And the end stage of that terminal pathology will be one final, desperate, pre-bankruptcy spasm of military self-justification, directed against the last, unfortunate, conjured adversary/revenue opportunity (ie, victim) of US Militarism-for-Profit.
It would be a good idea to have some sort of personal exit-strategy thought out and ready.
jeff_davis
August 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Thanks Brett, for pointing that out. It was the honkin' big, immensely irksome, first glaring error in Justin's piece. Changing homicide to suicide blames the victim, and conceals — and in doing so, protects — the murderer. Bad. Very bad.
I would like to be able to say that justice will prevail, but unfortunately I think an older truth will determine the outcome: the weak and stupid will be culled, the strong will survive, and "justice" will be in hiding until the fires subside.
jeff_davis
August 5th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
"The US budget is unsustainable, it has no basis in reality (like manufacturing), it's all based on funny money being pushed back and forth."
Globalization has shifted the center of the US economy over to finance capitalism. Finance capitalism makes its profit by commissions and investments. The profits are real, but the profits all go to the "investment class". Which means that, in a global economy — which is where we are now — the US work force is reduced to being "pool boys" to the rich. This "downturn" will stabilize once the rise in living standard of foreign labor meets the fall in living standard of US labor.
Sorry.
jeff_davis
August 5th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Your advice is sensible — which is to say not ideological — but I doubt it will gain the necessary following, precisely because it cannot compete with the emotional power of ideology.
If politics and the resultant policy were rational rather than adversarial, we would accept a mixed private/public economy. (Instead of screaming "Fascist" at private enterprise, and "Communist" at "public" (ie Govt) enterprise). When the private economy boomed, the public economy would shrink, and when the private economy went bust, the public economy would expand to maintain employment until the private economy recovered.
Instead we have an ideological war between the political elites of the right (formerly the left) and the far right (formerly the right). A war for complete domination of the country. And the war, as with all wars, does what war does, it destroys. In the end, like kings of old, one group of rich will win big, the remaining rich will take a hit, but still be rich, and the rest, mostly the little people, will be "collateral damage".
Perhaps some day someone will analyze this pattern, find the structural faults, and engineer a solution.
burkeman1
August 5th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
"The March of Folly" by Barbara Tuchman comes to mind when thinking about the world of illusion that envelops DC. But I'm afraid the sad portrait she paints of governments pursuing policies clearly inimical to their interests and indeed- producing the exact opposite result of their stated purpose- only hints at how deep and systemic the problems this country faces. They are not merely one of elites- but deeply woven throughout the culture- how we see ourselves and what we value.
I'm beginning to think that what we are seeing now- is the end of a road we have long been on. And I'm also afraid that there won't be any happy ending. This country- this culture- what it embrace and values- what it has ignored and buried for so long . . . is in for some horrible horrible times ahead I'm afraid. And I mean the type of times where we might one day soon be the people with flies on our faces waiting in lines in refugee camps.
Andrew Zook
August 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
And they must believe that even when things crash, they will have enough money and guns/security to remain unscathed… I think they'll be wrong – but at this point they're blind. Blinded by their wealth and power.
Andrew Zook
August 5th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
It would probably bring some unintended consequences but I'm for the union breaking up too – IF I can then emigrate to the state (region) of my choosing…. the midwest, southwest, southeast 'bible belts' are not the places I prefer to end up in…for a number of reasons – one being those regions penchant for military solutions – and that's one reason I hope it doesn't happen.
JMG
August 5th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Some can retreat to Israel.
jo-jo
August 5th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Two of the most economical,cogent, analytical,trenchant lines yet.The saddest part is that Joe Six Pack is waving flags while these purveyors of this alien ideology tax him into the poor house,take all his liberties and finally get his kids wounded,or killed in some foreign land.Machiavellian,but brilliant.
WashingtonDC goddamn
August 5th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Commander Obama enjoyed his birthday party at the White House in the company of pro-war Hollywood and entertainment-world elites. He took occasional breaks only to press the "Launch" button on his custom secure Blackberry.
Weren't some of his guests the same ones that were bashing War Monger Bush a few years ago?
Reader
August 5th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
What's the ideology?
MvGuy
August 5th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
And, of course, ["The psychopaths, e.g., Obama, Biden, Graham, McCain, etc."] rationalize the actions they are taking are for the greater good and will benefit us all.. We are "THAT shinning city [forget Detroit, Buffalo,
MvGuy
August 5th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
except that we would be more inclined to fight among ourselves and not invent foreign wars quite so facilely….
RickR30
August 5th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
No doubt corporate profits are very real and executive bonuses are even more real- they wouldn't have it any other way. However, those profits are based on offshoring of productive jobs and thus a shrinking of US GDP, regardless of the false GPD numbers the government gives.
Your description of the downturn stabilizing sounds like a global redistribution of wealthy. Let's lower the standard of those rich (i.e. middle class) Americans and shift that to Third World countries. I wonder how many Republicans would have sign up for Globalism if they had known it meant global communism.
Sam Lowry
August 5th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
The truth is uglier. The "'people' that are running things behind the scenes" don't perceive this as suicide. They perceive this as a 'culling of the herd.' See, for example:
http://www.amazon.com/Intellectuals-Masses-PRIDE-…
They will survive, and even profit. Or at least the ones that do survive will be the ones, in their mind, who deserve to survive.
morleyevans
August 5th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely." People who believe they can "make their own reality" which we peons can only study and marvel at ARE INSANE. They are certifiably insane. No American should take them seriously. No one outside the United States should take them seriously. Not only are they INSANE they are DANGEROUS. These people need to be handled carefully until they can be put away in a secure rubber room someplace. Perhaps they can be incarcerated in some comic book dimension where they can rant and rave through their spittle while they leave the rest of us alone.
dink
August 5th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Is the cup half empty or is the cup half full? We need to define what type of suicide it is. The majority of types of suicide comes from despair. Despair is perception. The Libertarians and Antiwar.com makes you think about money supply, the Federal Reserve (and how war must have it to hide its cost), Statism expansion of power vs. Liberty.. Is its ALWAYS right? I know Washington Dogma isn't.
The British painfully reinvented themselves after their lost their empire. (so why can't we?) Globalism is new, its not really avoidable. Our nation must adapt. We want/need sovereignty. Mr Raimondo "asks about why the ruling class wants to commit suicide"? I know/suspect the citizens do not. Do you?
Curious
August 5th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I think there are three reasons
1. The politicians see the American people as something to look down on and exterminate. You don't do this to people you consider to be your equal. Politics is a confidence trick played by predators on their prey. Most politicians and the politically connected are the Alphas and they treat us as Omegas. Most Americans that vote are Betas whose ideology changes along with the leader of their pack.
2. Propaganda and education has socialized Americans to be gullible, narcissistic, violent and/or complacent.
3. I think western ideologies have pretty much run their course except for the one's influenced by Epicurus. Obsessions are not healthy. Death is a part of life. What passes off for History and Discovery now is apocalypse programs. Religion too is obsessed with apocalypse. Is life so boring that people have to construct violent, and grandiose fantasies in order to be apart of something greater than themselves?
SLK
August 5th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
It's funny that the poem cited was written in 1925! I guess our Republic has been perishing for a long time…. Nothing is new or original here.
The news of our demise is quite premature, as usual….
Olive Oil
August 5th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
"'We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.’”
Well, they sure are terrible actors and, really, nobody likes to study terrible acting. At some point, let's hope the 'reality bubble' pops. There's nothing, just debt, and China holds the bonds, right? The rest is as you say overseas wannabe-empiricist bluster and some extensive military (not civilian) infrastructure. People just can eat F16s.
Olive Oil
August 5th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Very nicely said, a a little bit sad. It's a new American century to be sure.
MoT
August 5th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Oh so true.
Adam Smith
August 5th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
It's all about campaign finance. What's changed in the last 30 years? It now takes $30 million to run for Congress. So what you have now is a government made up of rich people (strike one) who happen to be quite stupid (strike 2).
You could take your country back, but only if you had fair elections again. That means throwing the rich out of Congress. The senate itself is designed to provide geographical representation so that large population centres don't overwhelm the rest of the country. In the name of geographic equality of representation, Montana has two Senators.
The founders rejected as system where the most populous 1% of states would rule the country.
What exists now is an arrangement under which the richest 1% of individuals and corporations rule the country.
That is the problem.
Dan
August 6th, 2011 at 1:44 am
Yes, no need for Spengler. The Founders were well aware of the cycles of history: Plato, Polybius, Machiavelli's Discourses: How democracies become tyranny and how republics become empires. We are at the last stage of Vico's Age of Men: conformity, technology, the "barbarism of reflection," cowardice.
This is not to say that the process hasn't been administered and managed for the benefit of the rulers. They are global.
Dan
August 6th, 2011 at 1:49 am
Linear historiography
Dan
August 6th, 2011 at 2:03 am
Yes, debt and militarization are the plan.
Read "Leo Strauss: the Philosopher as Conspirator" by Claes Ryn, somewhere on line
Dan
August 6th, 2011 at 2:22 am
The "ideological war between the elites" is trivial: just cultural political distractions for the most part, On every substantial issue, war, money, liberty, i.e., the rule of law vs. "security," there is a near total consensus. Obama has fulfilled what were gleams in Cheney's eye.
paul
August 6th, 2011 at 3:25 am
Have you noticed that your Ditz is now actively promoting Nato war against Syria (using biased anti-Syria information, of course)? Is it acceptable to promote war on an antiwar site?
Dieter
August 6th, 2011 at 6:43 am
Your hero Ron Paul has had his "Ron Paul for President" T-shits made by semi slave-labor abroad. If you do not denounce him soon for that I will stop believing everything you write.
Remorhaz
August 6th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius
The Christian version: "Whom GOD would destroy he first makes mad"
Generalissimo X
August 6th, 2011 at 7:33 am
ditz is a fat piece of sh*t who censors comments…f*ck ditz
Avenist
August 6th, 2011 at 10:26 am
So many posts, so many clueless posters.
opar5
August 6th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Glenn Beck firat alerted us to "Prof." Obama's favorable lecturing on the "Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis, to overextend and bring down Government." His foreign and domestic policies, his choice of advisors and appointment recommendations seem in line with Cloward-Piven. Why? There's talk of reestablishment of the Islamic caliphate with the Muslim Brotherhood consolidation of the ME, and who better for caliph than the man who isolated the "Little Satan" and crippled the "Big Satin" economically, militarialy, morally and internationally? A "Christian" caliph? The Muslim world have never treated Obama like the apostate he claims to be. Only our ignorance of factual Islamic history and doctrine empowers this brutal culture pretending to be a religion.
guest
August 7th, 2011 at 2:37 am
One of the reasons is the cluelessness of libertarians. Take your pick, either pay taxes or stop wars. I agree that at least you are consistent, in that you never wanted these wars to start, so fine, then w get to have low taxes. But since right-winger and independents and sell-out democrats started this gravy train for military contractors, we have to raise taxes to pay for it, not cut programs that support consumer pending and infrastructure. However, since America has lost its marbles, we're gonna keep on spending and raise no taxes (which you call robbery) and go headlong off the cliff. So you and the fantasist libertarian crowd are part of that process. Say you're not republican, but you support their policies.
CogitoMan
August 7th, 2011 at 9:23 am
To those who still do not get it you got here it in the nutshell:
1) Every fiat money system based on credit has to collapse in the manner the $US currently does. In order to have a debt based currency in circulation, more and more debt has to be incurred. If someone does not understand why, it is because old debt has to be paid with old debt + new debt. New debt(also in the form of currency) can come only from someone incurring new debt. If general population cannot incur more debt, government does as described by Keynes. Since debt increase always follows exponential curve vs linear economic growth this leads to inflation then hyperinflation. This is why fiat currency defaults on average every 32 years. Last $US occurred in 1971 when US has abandoned link to gold
In that system government has to create new debt because If debt is ever paid back (mathematical impossibility) there will be no currency in circulation. Hence this is why they are deathly afraid of deflation basically meaning that money in circulation shrink because debts are paid without new one being created.
2). Still if the ruling class did want to avoid catastrophic collapse they would allow relatively normal correction prior to 2001. This leads me to no 3
3)There is purpose in this madness. Ruling class is an international class who aims to create so called "one world order". In order to achieve it they must have single, non national currency and subdue potentially resisting countries to agree to join. From that point of view it is worthy to note that as long as $US plays international currency role, there is no chance US would join any other monetary standard. Therefore dollar must be destroyed. This explains why nothing was done to save it in a first place. This also achieves another prerequisite. By putting the country trough hyperdepression US citizens will be softened enough as to do not resist joining "one world order" contraption. The step in this direction will probably be expressed in creating North American Union in the shape of EU, consisting of Mexico, US and Canada.
One more note… to prolong existing system to ensure its total destruction and to implement draconian laws aka "patriot act" to control populace TPTB had to create circumstances in which they could be implemented. Hence you got 9/11. Next step serving the same purpose will be big war in Middle East possibly with Iran.
P.S.
Mr Raimondo will never admit that 9/11 was inside job. This is why you see him meandering around that topic. I believe that this is political decision of libertarian party to deny/discredit it. After all, if they did not they would be described as a fringe nuts by establishment. This still does not excuse vehement attack by Mr. Raimondo on so called truthers. Anyone with an IQ over 80 who can read can research the topic and have come to true conclusion that 9/11 was inside job. Mr. Raimondo has lost my trust. This article is another proof of it as Mr. Raimondo definitely knows the answers yet he fails to openly address them and put the blame where it belongs. Shame on you Justin!
Jacques
August 7th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
In 4 short years, the Federal Reserve has created over 16 TRILLION DOLLARS out of thin air.
What is this staggering sum in more realistic terms?
If you spent a million dollars a day, every day… it would take you over 43,835 years to equal 16 trillion dollars.
So if you were one of the very first “modern men” (a step above a Neanderthal) arriving in Europe at the end of the Middle Paleolithic period, and started squandering $1,000,000 a day – you would just now be approaching the end of your spending spree, 438 centuries later.
Or look at it this way, if you were to take every scrap of gold ever mined or produced since the dawn of time, every gold coin, every gold bar, every piece of jewelry… all of it… you’d just about reach what the FED has created in these 4 short years… 16 Trillion Dollars. $16,000,000,000,000
That $16 trillion amounts to $53,330 for every man, woman, child & infant now living in the USA, all being charged to our future.
The Bubble
The total amount of monetary “derivatives” – the speculatory bubble that crashed our economy – is estimated at 1 QUADRILLION DOLLARS – $1000 trillion. $1,000,000,000,000,000
At that scale, it would take the entire GNP of the United States over 71 years to pay it off – at 0% interest.
It would take 17 years of the ENTIRE PLANET’S wealth to meet these obligations. That’s every single penny of what every single person and every single corporation earns for over a decade and a half. The entire world’s production of every good and service.
The interest alone for all these derivatives, at a paltry 1% – would be 10 trillion dollars a year – slightly less than the annual production of the entire United States. Year after year.
Now… do you really, truly think our governments are going to pay down these debts or meet these obligations?
If so, you have a great future as a politician.
neron
August 7th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
The reason is simple
- 1990/95 US win the war (Uruguay round). Collapse of communist system, Mafia, Guns, ..
- 1995/2000: Big Marshall plan to save Eastern and China Countries:
Easy debt, low interest rates in all developing countries to generate money (M3 aggregate) to invest in these countries as they is now triply people under free word. Otherwise they will have as only hope to make junk jewelry for us or sell their body. Private investors were used instead of public help because there are economical more efficient.
- 2000/2003: Despite the disequilibrium of exchange (and the evidence that US have all what is needed to made products (qualified people, infrastructures, raw material) China refuse to raise his exchange rate to dump his exportation
- 2003/2011: US and EU have no other solution than to spoil their money. Each turn to keep same exchange rate
-2011: Up to China to find a way to consum all the $ and Euro that will flow to her. Like the galleons filled with gold that ruined Spain
The strength of a country is its culture, people and territory, no doubt that USA is richer than China. Don’t worry, money is only to ease exchange. (sorry for my English)
StokeyBob
August 7th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
I may have come across the answer by accident.
When I started looking into where the money was coming from to buy off the politicians and subvert the immigration laws of the world, I came across what may be the root of many of our problems. Fiat Money.
No matter how much real money people can put together to build their countries the way they want there are those that can print up what ever it takes to get their way.
Maybe this will help make the danger of fiat money clear.
Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world's wealth. Each one of us has one SUPER Dollar in front of him.
You own half of everything and so do I.
I'm the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.
You're not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars to manipulate you with.
All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world!
That isn't the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because YOU'VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED.
That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can't keep up with the fake money presses.
We are going to have to regain control of our government before we can regain control of our currency and regain control of our country.
StokeyBob
August 7th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
You've got the numbers right.
If someone volunteered to pay off the debt at a dollar a second it would take 31,688 for just one trillion of it.
"A trillion seconds is 31,688 years."
ggiavelli
August 7th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
It doesnt take a genius to figure out a way out of this…
http://www.giavellireport.com/daily-news/a-simple…
j r
August 8th, 2011 at 9:05 am
We'll be damn lucky if it's as easy as the Soviet breakup. I suspect it will be more Mad Max like, at least for a while. Got my 12 gauge and my Australian Cattle Dog for when that happens.
popo
August 8th, 2011 at 9:08 am
that white house aide was Karl Rove. why do you all always fail to mention him by name?
Steve
August 8th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
I used to ask the same questions as the author about the intentionality of these mad men's actions. I read a book that for me, cleared it all up: "Wetiko" by Paul Levy. I'm now reading "Columbus and other Cannibals" by Jack D. Forbes. Read these and you will understand what is going on today.
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wetiko/
God help us all.
PC Ferret
August 9th, 2011 at 8:12 am
“They have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.” – Hosea 8:7
Look at London for a harbinger of what may happen in Washington DC, New York, Chicago, LA, and so forth by about this time next year.
Bob D
August 9th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Guest,
Seeing this "gravy train for military contractors" as a given puts you in the distigushed company of the neocons and their bizarro world. And raising taxes will help maintain that bizarro world. The only reasonalbe way to bring the sleeping idiots back to reality is to "cut programs that support consumer spending and infrastructure". This should be especially effective with liberals like you unless they convince themselves with your convoluted, fatuous logic that wars are better than consumer spending. But I give the sleeping idiots more credit.
John
August 22nd, 2011 at 10:20 am
So true!!!!!!