Obama Soldiers On
'Centering' on Afghanistan: a speech that pleased no one
In his speech explaining why the US cannot withdraw from Afghanistan any earlier than 2014 – at the earliest — President Obama wasted no time in waving the bloody shirt of 9/11. Right off the bat we heard:
"Nearly ten years ago, America suffered the worst attack on our shores since Pearl Harbor. This mass murder was planned by Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda network in Afghanistan, and signaled a new threat to our security — one in which the targets were no longer soldiers on a battlefield, but innocent men, women and children going about their daily lives."
Is there no end to the brazen hypocrisy of our rulers? How many innocent men, women and children going about their daily lives has the US cut down? Hundreds of thousands were killed in Iraq, by sanctions as well as US military action – well before the 9/11 attacks. Oh, but they don’t count, you see, because – well, just because. Indeed, to interrupt the narrative of poor victimized America — a nation of innocents — with such tawdry facts is treason itself, and surely an American chief executive would never even think of such things, let alone say them out loud. No, the war-narrative of this White House mustn’t be marred by reality: the self-regard in which the American people hold themselves cannot be challenged by the objective world, and Obama expertly reweaves the fantasy that has held us in thrall for a decade and more:
"In the days that followed, our nation was united as we struck at al Qaeda and routed the Taliban in Afghanistan. Then, our focus shifted. A second war was launched in Iraq, and we spent enormous blood and treasure to support a new government there. By the time I took office, the war in Afghanistan had entered its seventh year. But al Qaeda’s leaders had escaped into Pakistan and were plotting new attacks, while the Taliban had regrouped and gone on the offensive. Without a new strategy and decisive action, our military commanders warned that we could face a resurgent al Qaeda, and a Taliban taking over large parts of Afghanistan."
Ah yes, those glorious days of "unity" – when no one, save a brave few, dared stand up against the war hysteria. When anyone who looked vaguely Muslim was attacked in the streets. United in hatred and fear — what a grotesque nostalgia for our "progressive" president to give voice to! Like his predecessor, Obama has often praised this mystic post-9/11"unity," including twice in this speech, and therein lies the mark of the tyrant, who always welcomes the unthinking submission to authority wartime brings.
This war-narrative is getting threadbare, however, and has some significant gaps: suddenly, we are told that, seemingly out of nowhere, "our focus shifted," and "a second war was launched" – apparently all by itself, by means of spontaneous combustion. One hardly expects him to mention of the key role played by his own party, which stood by and cowered – or cheered – as George W. Bush led the nation down into the quagmire, banners flying. But the distancing act – "by the time I took office" – is a little too glib: Bush gets all the blame for Iraq, and the decision to escalate the Afghan war is pushed off on "our military commanders." But isn’t Obama the commander-in-chief?
Our president, a prisoner of history, bravely confronts circumstances shaped by others. He praises himself for making "one of the most difficult decisions I’ve made as President," the launching of the "surge" in which 30,000 more troops were sent to the supposedly neglected Afghan front. "We set clear objectives," he avers, and yet our ultimate goal was – and still is – obscured in murk: does anyone, including the President, know what victory looks like?
"After this initial reduction," the President averred, "our troops will continue coming home at a steady pace as Afghan Security forces move into the lead. Our mission will change from combat to support. By 2014, this process of transition will be complete, and the Afghan people will be responsible for their own security."
This objective is anything but "clear": does that mean US troops will be out by 2014, or, like Iraq, will a "residual" force remain in place? What, exactly, is "a steady pace"? Your guess is as good as mine.
"The goal that we seek is achievable, and can be expressed simply: no safe-haven from which al Qaeda or its affiliates can launch attacks against our homeland, or our allies. We will not try to make Afghanistan a perfect place. We will not police its streets or patrol its mountains indefinitely. That is the responsibility of the Afghan government, which must step up its ability to protect its people; and move from an economy shaped by war to one that can sustain a lasting peace. What we can do, and will do, is build a partnership with the Afghan people that endures – one that ensures that we will be able to continue targeting terrorists and supporting a sovereign Afghan government."
How will be ensure that al-Qaeda and its allies will be unable to reestablish a safe haven in Afghanistan if we don’t police its streets and patrol its mountains indefinitely? Without the US troop presence, what is to prevent the return of the Taliban, and, presumably, al-Qaeda? That is the trick involved in this "safe haven" rhetoric: it can and has been used to justify our foreign policy of perpetual war. Never mind that the actual perpetrators of the 9/11 terrorist attacks found "safe havens" in Florida, Germany, and in many places other than Afghanistan. Any and all nations are potential "safe havens" for the shadowy enemy we have pledged to eradicate, and that’s precisely how the US government regards the rest of the world: as a potential battlefield. The Bush Doctrine lives.
The truly sinister and largely overlooked portion of the speech hints at where this murderous Doctrine will take us next:
"Of course, our efforts must also address terrorist safe-havens in Pakistan. No country is more endangered by the presence of violent extremists, which is why we will continue to press Pakistan to expand its participation in securing a more peaceful future for this war-torn region. We will work with the Pakistani government to root out the cancer of violent extremism, and we will insist that it keep its commitments. For there should be no doubt that so long as I am President, the United States will never tolerate a safe-haven for those who aim to kill us: they cannot elude us, nor escape the justice they deserve."
This administration has long been preparing to intervene more directly in Pakistan, which is touted as the Real Problem: indeed, pro-administration military theorists and pundits have cited Pakistan as the principal reason we should stay engaged in Afghanistan. The discovery of Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad and the subsequent back-and-forth between Washington and Islamabad – largely contrived – paves the way for open US military intervention. Pakistan is clearly the next target on Washington’s list – and that conflict is going to make the Afghan conflict look like a Sunday school picnic.
The government of Asif Ali Zardari is a fiction: real control of the country is in the hands of the military-intelligence apparatus, the tribal networks, and the various Islamic factions. If and when we put boots on the ground in Pakistan, it will be to strengthen the central government’s tenuous hold on power, which could give way at any moment. No doubt policymakers are secretly pining for the good old days of Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who did more to hold the country together than all the US aid that has been poured into Pakistan since his ouster: but since he is far from a democrat, his very existence clashed with the ideological pretensions of Washington policymakers, who seem to actually believe their own propaganda.
Either that, or else one could adopt a more jaundiced view, in which the US welcomed the weakness inherent in the corrupt "democratic" regime of Zardari – known as President "Ten Percent" – since it invites US intervention. Is democracy in Pakistan imperiled? Here come the Marines, just in time to save it!
The blind arrogance of our policy is reflected in the personal haughtiness of Obama, the man, who bemoaned what "a difficult decade [this has been] for our country." Who made it more difficult than it had to be? Not even the opportunity to score partisan points inspires him to raise that question, let alone answer it.
"We have learned anew the profound cost of war," he intoned, but in detailing the death toll of two wars our President mentions only American deaths – miniscule compared to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans who fell before the "liberating" power of the US military in the past decade. These were not soldiers, but civilians – "collateral damage" in the lingo of rationalized mass murder. How many of the relatives and loved ones of these innocents have vowed to take revenge? Osama bin Laden may be dead, but we have ensured the persistence of the terrorist virus he set loose on the world – because we incubated it in the laboratory of the Iraq and Afghan wars.
"Some have lost limbs on the field of battle," the President continued, "and others still battle the demons that have followed them home." Yet the Iraqis and Afghans see us as demons who have taken over their homes, and this is the objective reality: the Pashtun tribes we have been fighting for a decade are home, and know we must leave eventually, and so they fight a war of attrition and play a waiting game.
Which means no policy short of permanent occupation is going to achieve the administration’s war aims by ensuring the absence of any "safe havens." If the "safe haven" doctrine can rationalize invading and permanently occupying Afghanistan, why not apply the same principle to the rest of the world? Since any nation on earth could be a potential "safe haven," it would make "sense" – Bizarro World sense – to invade and occupy the entire globe, or such portions of it not already huddling under the eagle’s wing.
What gave the eagle its fabulous wingspan, and the ability to project power halfway around the world, was the economic muscle of postwar America: that muscle is now seriously deteriorated, but while it lasted it held up the world. As the American giant buckles under the burden of empire, the idea that we cannot carry the whole world on our shoulders is no longer considered weakness: instead, it is simple common sense.
Yet the rulers of the American empire will not give up their domain quite so easily.
In waving the bloody shirt of 9/11, Obama limned the revengeful emotionalism of neoconservative war propaganda throughout the Bush era, and he is faithfully carrying out their policies – with a few bold innovations, like Libya, and the growing intervention in Pakistan.
Like the neocons, the President, too, conjures the specter of "isolationism," joining the growing chorus – confined entirely to the Beltway – against those who "would have America retreat from our responsibility as an anchor of global security, and embrace an isolation that ignores the very real threats that we face." Implicitly acknowledging these folks might have a point – given our looming bankruptcy – he positions himself between two purported extremes, also chiding "Others would have America over-extend ourselves, confronting every evil that can be found abroad. We must chart a more centered course."
Obama’s characteristically clever centering which may be too clever by half. On this issue, the country is in no mood for moderation: a whopping 72 percent want a rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the President’s speech is unlikely to mollify them.
Claiming "we do not have a single soldier on the ground in Libya," (does the CIA count?), Obama hailed the "democratic aspirations that are now washing across the Arab World" and pledged that "We will support those revolutions," although just how, and under what circumstances, was lost in vague references to our "ideals." I have a sneaking suspicion, however, that Obama’s ideals are not shared by the rest of the country, if polls are any indication.
And he knows it. Underscoring the administration’s fear of the "isolationist" scourge, Obama announced, as if he’d made a major discovery:
"America, it is time to focus on nation building here at home."
I’m glad to see it isn’t only the Republican presidential candidates who are stealing Ron Paul’s lines.
This speech, the "open letter" issued by the Usual Suspects in support of the Libyan nonsense, and the general tone of shocked outrage at this sudden upsurge of the dreaded "isolationists" is all part of Washington’s fightback against the awakening of the American people: a united front effort by both wings of the bipartisan War Party, personified by the John Kerry-John McCain alliance over the Libya issue.
The anti-isolationist campaign may succeed in intimidating some politicians who might otherwise find the prospect of jumping on the anti-interventionist bandwagon tempting, but it is, at best, a rearguard action.
As the iron fist of economic depression crushes their hopes and dreams, and leaves them out in the street, Americans are in an angry mood – and about to turn ugly. Obama’s attempt to get out of the way of these peasants with pitchforks, by "centering" himself on the Afghanistan issue, instead may have placed him in the center of the road.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Up Against the FBI – May 23rd, 2013
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013





William
June 23rd, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Obama says that Bin Laden "planned" the raids on the Pentagon and World Trade Center. I do not doubt that Bin Laden supported the operation or that he was even the one to conceive of the possibility, conceptually, but if he in fact planned or conspired in the operation, why was he never indicted? Even the 9/11 Commission seemed to point the finger elsewhere, at Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. Unfortunately, Obama has destroyed the most important evidence, dumping Bin Laden into the sea, making it that much easier for Obama to lie to us and continue the flag waving, destructive narrative.
In consonance with some of Justin's points in this piece, it is worth pondering once again some of the wise man's (Osama, not Obama) words:
"America will not be able to dream of security until we live in security in Palestine. It is unfair that you live in peace while our brothers in Gaza live in insecurity."
The quote is apparently taken from bin Laden's last audio tape that he recorded before being killed by American troops.
"Accordingly, and with the will of God, our attacks will continue against you as long as your support for Israel continues," the al-Qaida chief said in the audio recording. "So the message we wanted to convey through the plane of our hero, the fighter Umar Farouk, may God be with him, confirms a previous message which had been sent to you by our heroes of September 11," bin Laden reportedly said in the minute-long recording.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/rep…
skulz fontaine
June 23rd, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Well said Mr. Raimondo and brave of you to sit through the Obama blah blah. I lasted all of 47 seconds. I simply cannot listen to that lickspittle of a pathetic excuse for president. I have grown contemptuous of the entire Empire charade and Obama, well, Obama would be Amerikan Caesar and he is an SOB for attempting the ridiculous.
Afghaniscam will be the demise of Empire Amerikana just as it was for the Soviet Union. Ten years hence, won't the 'land of the free' be one empty and hollow shell of what we once were.
Steve H.
June 23rd, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Obama is a tool. I almost feel sorry for the poor sap. Then I remember that he wanted this job and is actively pursuing another term. The man is a sociopath. Those that follow him are insane.
When do we hit the reset button and start anew?
Sam Lowry
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 pm
It is clear Obama's job is nothing more than to deliver rhetoric justifying U.S. military intervention. It is also clear that his job is to shovel that rhetoric faster than people like the laudable Justin Raimondo can help us dig our way out of it. As said elsewhere, Obama is a tool. At the same time, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the neocons and their ideological obsessions are just as much a manufactured distraction as Obama's Afghanistan withdrawal rhetoric.
The real question is: What's really going on? Who is really directing U.S. foreign policy and to what end? The existence of death-eaters and war profiteers is undeniable (thanks in no small part to antiwar.com) but it is the agenda behind their chosen targets that all this Bizarro-World logic is designed to obfuscate.
Given Raimondo's astounding and sustained output, his signal-to-noise ratio is unmatched. But it might be time to just start ignoring Obama.
liberranter
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 pm
I think you're giving this pathetic, oxygen-thieving waste of DNA (you mean to tell me that out of 10,000,000-plus sperm, THIS ONE made it through to its target?) too much credit by calling him a sociopath. The only accurate adjective here is the word "LOSER." I mean, seriously, how devoid of self-respect must one be to agree to abase oneself by spewing out, in front of tens of millions of one's fellow countrymen, such utter bullshit, such transparent idiocy as to not even be able to convincingly feign sincerity while uttering it? To not even give a second's thought to the sheer inanity of one's own public persona, the permanent obliteration of what little reputation one might have had before agreeing to become the nation's chief sock puppet, a marionette emperor, an empty figurehead, a facade for despicable, evil people to whom you are completely disposable? It would be one thing if any real power attended the position, even if only temporarily. But to willingly become nothing but a glorified fall guy, and a laughingstock of a fall guy at that, is just beyond comprehension for anyone with a scintilla of self-worth and dignity.
Barack Obama represents the nadir of the Amerikan presidency, an office that has been in a state of steady decay for over a century and a half and that is rapidly reaching its terminal stage in terms of the respect it commands. As I've mentioned in other posts in other threads, each successive figurehead represents a new low in comparison with its predecessor. In not very many years we'll have the likes of a Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, or Bristol Palin warming the Oval Office Chair. You think I'm exaggerating? The recent Weiner charade, in which several hundred thousand people in one of the most heavily populated pockets of "civilization" in the country were revealed to have chosen a crass, shallow, narcissistic, and uncultured scumbag to represent them at the national level should convince you otherwise.
guest
June 24th, 2011 at 12:14 am
well- put rant Liberranter!
guest
June 24th, 2011 at 12:31 am
At one point, I considered voting for Obama in 2012(no I didn't vote for him in 2008) just to prevent Sarah Palin or some other damnable Republican fascist geting in office. Now, I just don't care. It's all BS. I just can't vote for Obama or any other one of these deplorable creatures.
paul
June 24th, 2011 at 4:27 am
But, of course, you are complicit in all this, Raimondo, because you are a denier of 911 Truth. Note that what makes you a denier isn't that you are unconvinced. No, that possibly COULD be a sincere and even arguably reasonable position. What makes you a denier is that you angrily and sneeringly denounce Truthers. You are clearly a gatekeeper. Ie. willfully complicit.
paul
June 24th, 2011 at 4:29 am
Who or what did they dump in the sea?
NavyVietnamWarVet
June 24th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Forget the "Arab Spring" – what is needed is an "American Spring" – what is needed is millions of Americans with pitchforks storming the White House and the Congress and the Pentagon – throwing out the gangsters and war criminals from our Government.
America is in very bad need of a revolution by its people.
Barack Hussein Obama needs to be voted out of office in 2012 and sent back to Kenya.
ALL of the WARMONGERS in Congress need to be voted out of office in 2012.
Spartacus
June 24th, 2011 at 7:04 am
The one thing I don't like about Justin Raimondo(I have been on Antiwar.com from day one) is he will not say anything about 911 being A INSIDE JOB. There is NO proof Osama did 911 NONE! How anyone can't not question how THREE!! building came down in their own foot print. Go to "www.buildingwhat.org How can Justin overlook the FAKE Osama videos over the years. How about the "Dancing Israelis" who were caught filming the towers going down and cheering. They were a MOSSAD FRONT. Go and look at the evidence. The U.S was set to invade Afghanistan in the fall of 01 before 911 happened. The oil pipelines had to go through Afghanistan. The proof that 911 was an inside job is enormous. So if you want the Wars to END you first have to open your eyes to the truth that America was LIED into Afghanistan. Paul Craig Roberts does not believe the official 911 fairytale.
William
June 24th, 2011 at 7:17 am
So if you want the Wars to END you first have to open your eyes to the truth that America was LIED into Afghanistan. Paul Craig Roberts does not believe the official 911 fairytale.
I believe the official version and yet I want the Wars to end. There is enough in the official version to provide grounds to oppose the Wars. Specifically, it is enough to recognize that 9/11 was simply retaliation for U.S. support of oppressive regimes (including Israel). Your attempt to persuade people that taking down the Pentagon and the Towers was somehow an "inside job" (with what motives?) is unnecessary and counterproductive. It's much easier to help people understand that U.S. conduct in the Middle East is sufficient to have provoked a violent response from reasonable people. And whether or not 911 was an inside job, that fact will not change–and consequently American lives will continue to be at risk–until that U.S. conduct changes.
–William (from first post above)
William
June 24th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Complicit in what?
There is enough in the official version to provide excellent grounds to oppose the Wars. Specifically, it is enough to recognize that 9/11 was simply retaliation by reasonable men for U.S. support of oppressive regimes (including Israel) in the Middle East. Your attempts to persuade people that taking down the Pentagon and the Towers was somehow an "inside job" (with what motives?) is unnecessary and counterproductive. It is much easier to help people understand that U.S. conduct in the Middle East is sufficient to have provoked a violent response from reasonable people. And whether or not 911 was an inside job, that core provocation will remain–and consequently American lives will continue to be at risk–as long as the United States stands on the side of oppression and injustice in the Middle East.
As an American, my interest is in the security of my people, the solvency of my government, and achieving those goals with fairness and justice to others. "911 Truth," even if true, strikes me as a distraction. Again, you will still be facing the threat of terrorism (and reactionary U.S. wars) until you remove the root causes. What is the USS Cole Truth? The Kenya/Tanzania Embassy Truth? The London Subway Bombing Truth? The Madrid Bombings Truth? The Umar Farouk Truth? The Bali Nightclub Bombing Truth? The Palestinian Resistance Truth? The Egyptian Revolution Truth?
–William (from first post above)
guiscad
June 24th, 2011 at 9:42 am
… and why does bin Laden on SEVERAL occasions deny any involvement in the 911 attacks?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep2/obl-2001-intervie…
Jamal
June 24th, 2011 at 10:24 am
There is not going to be any changes in US hegemony regarding the world domination.., not if the regime is changed.., US been at wars for last 60 years…, has a social economic and political obligation toward itself to act as USG dose.., creating wars all the time is part of that obligation.., To achieve the goal they do it two way, one is with George W. Bush Neo Fascism and AIPAC idea the other is by the democratic party working with both AIPAC and Republicans without torture.., not that we can see it for know but is out there.., here is where all that dealing with republicans are about.., this cooperation is not based on things that are missing in educations or healthcare and or creating jobs and etc.., but it is about the system and protecting it by dealing about tax incentives to rich people and how much the Oil companies will get and investment in war machineries and etc. There is no such attitude in stopping the wars by the leadership in both parties, Senator Feinstein she is for war so as many other high ranking democrats and republicans from California to NY. Look: US needs markets for it goods, the Democratic party needs to create millions of jobs.., they (partially) have that market in Middle East., but due to over production and creating jobs to win the election they need a bigger market and Africa is the size of half of this world.., it needs to be shared by EU – US and China CCP and that’s where France and England getting involved.., because US can not do it alone. Libya war is not about democracy nor is about saving humans life’s.., NATO been killing people by thousands, they have done it in Iraq, Afghanistan and Yugoslavia and now they are doing it in Libya.., so the question of humanitarian or Humanitarians aid is totally irrelevant .
Here is not about Barack Hussein Obama personally, we said that from the beginning that he is mimicking Dr. Martin Luther King acting like a modernized and fashionable “Democrat” revolutionary lying with everything he got to fool the American people to protect the system.., and his doing it by knowing that the system is about to collapse, therefore he is trying to save it.., he protected Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Chase, AIG and many others who started this economic mess.., that alone makes him part of the system yet not the people president.., and so goes for rest of the politicians who supports a president with war agendas on his desk.
In reality therefore it is not about who but rather what that who is presents, if system wants to change the US being a war hunger nation.., being fooled by its media and then its presidents.., there should be amendment to its constitution pointing out that US should never go to any kind of or helping any kind of wars unless US soil is attacked by others. The other solution is to mobilize those who are against wars and let them to start a new political party getting out of the Republican party and or the Democratic party calling it National Unity party.., or start a separate political party if the social political agreements are not there.., and let both Party suffer the loses of its loyal voters.., loyal voters who for years been arguing with both party’s leaders regarding US wars.., yet nothing been changed. Although the new presidents been telling the world that “Change is good”.., but this only based on a social psychological warfare to fool the people over and over again.., meanwhile people been waiting for that change asking themselves.., what change.
Generalissimo X
June 24th, 2011 at 10:33 am
obama again quotes the biggest lie in human history. that a bunch of guys in caves over came norad and 16 other agencies and succeeded in not only hijacking planes, they were even able to defy the natural laws of physics by having steel framed buildings collapse at free fall speed. until this country and media, including this website, has the stones and relentless will to learn the truth of 9-11 there will always be war, death and destruction in perpetuity. prattle on all you want about left/right or antiwar BS, but nothing is gonna change until we bring the TRUE criminals of 9-11 to justice.
William
June 24th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Depends on how you define "involved in 9/11." I'm not convinced he was involved in the operational aspect of it. And we know for certain he wasn't in the cockpit of one of the planes.
William
June 24th, 2011 at 11:01 am
From an interview of Bin Laden by al-Jazeera's respected reporter Taysir Alluni, October 11, 2001:
"As far as concerns [America's] description of these attacks as terrorist acts, that description is wrong. These young men, for whom God has created a path, have shifted the battle to the heart of the United States, and they have destroyed its most outstanding landmarks, its economic and military landmarks, by the grace of God. And they have done this because of our words–and we have previously incited and roused them to action–in self-defense, defense of our brothers and sons in Palestine, and in order to free our holy sanctuaries. And if inciting for these reasons is terrorism, and if killing those that kill our sons is terrorism, then let history witness that we are terrorists."
Doug_in_Indiana
June 24th, 2011 at 11:01 am
A good summary liberranter. He reminds me of the pres in that movie, Idiocracy, I think it was, except it hasn't taken 500 years to get there.
Generalissimo X
June 24th, 2011 at 11:15 am
you must be a complete dupe and insipid blind fool to believe the "conspiracy theory" perpetuated by the us gov't about 9-11. you need to do some research and wake up to reality. if you think these wars are going to end you're misguided and that's being kind. sorry for the self righteousness but you need to get informed. these wars will never end until we recognize them for what they truly are: the result of a massive criminal deception.
William
June 24th, 2011 at 11:36 am
It doesn't matter. American lives will continue to be at risk of "terrorism" for as long as we stand on the side of injustice and oppression in the Middle East. And that "terrorism" will in turn create pressure for more wars. So it doesn't matter whether 911 was a conspiracy of Arab resistance fighters, or of some group within the U.S. government, or of Israel. The risk of more "terror attacks" remains because of American conduct in the Middle East. Recognize that and we are all on the way to agreeing to policies that will make us safer and put our resources to better use.
As an aside, I'm curious about something: Do you believe the USS Cole, the Kenya/Tanzania Embassy Bombings, the Bali Bombings, the bombings of the subways in London and Madrid were also "inside jobs"? Or were they carried out by people upset by the violence being perpetrated against them by the U.S. government and its allies?
Generalissimo X
June 24th, 2011 at 11:50 am
7/7 and bali were without a doubt inside jobs..the others i do not know. it does matter as there are no terrorists save what is fomented by the cia, mossad etc. the people "upset" are funded and trained by the u.s. gov't and often times given the methods and means to conduct their operations by these outlets. the risk of more attack only exists because our gov't got away with it the other times.
Generalissimo X
June 24th, 2011 at 11:50 am
for example: the original bomber of the wtc in '93 was given the bomb materials by the fbi. on 7/7, 9-11 there were "drills" about the exact same events happening..coincidence i think not. on 7/7 they were conducting a drill and the scenario was the exact buses at the exact stops at the same time they were "drilling" for. the chance of this is infintesimal at best. the u.s. gov't is on record lieing about gulf of tonkin. there is operation northwoods and mockingbird. they injected black men with syphillis and exposed soliders to radiation during nuclear tests. recently they lied about wmd in iraq and hundreds of thousands are now dead. i'm not sure why you would believe that 3 steel framed buildings collapsed at free fall speed…so now the gov't can redefine the laws of physics. what's the learning curve here?
montaigne
June 24th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
The more likely story, I suppose, is that heavily observed terrorist had a spectacular success.
The downing of the air surveillance force that day, the removal of normal secutity, the heavy observations of those amateur-terrorists, the spectacular crumbling of buildings, the weekends with secret works in the miraculously collapsing buildings, the release of Israeli agents as well as Saudi's in the US in a hurry afterwards. .
This points of course for most Americans to true and unwavering patriotism of everybody. More healthy and independent souls might, just might! see it differently.
You might be free of cigarette dependency in the US. And what a great and important heroic victory that is! But certainly NOT social idiocy writ historically large!
fedupandsick
June 24th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
A bunch of guys in caves could have indeed come over here and fell our buildings as long as they were skilled at controlled demolitions.
rodney
June 24th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
american foreing policy is made in london and in washington by london's agednts who have infiltrated as british journaLISTS IN MEDIA OR HOLLYWOOD OR MUSICINDUSTRY AND SUCH SPECAIL RELATIONSHIP CRAP MADE BY RBITISH PROIAPGANSDIST.
ENGLAND RUNS THE SHOW IN USA FOR THE BEENFIT OF ENGLAND ONLY-THE AMERICANS ARE TOO STUPID TO REALISE THAT. AND ENGLISH ARE OFOCURSE GLADLY SMUG ABOUT IT.
RickR30
June 24th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
One of the most beautiful posts I've ever read.
RickR30
June 24th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Raimondo has said plenty about the israeli "art students." Unfortunately, anyone who questions the official lies about 911 loses all credibility and Raimondo probably doesn't want that to happen to this site. I would imagine that he personally doesn't buy the official story, but what would be the point of bring it up all the time. The liars have won, their version has become history, like all the other strange things that have happened in this country over the years.
RickR30
June 24th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
"What we can do, and will do, is build a partnership with the Afghan people that endures – one that ensures that we will be able to continue targeting terrorists and supporting a sovereign Afghan government." And just how will we be able to "continue targeting terrorists" if we don't have boots on the ground to target these terrorists, Mr. Obama? We'll have a presence in Afghanistan for all eternity,
"and we will insist that it keep its commitments." Just what commitments has Pakistan made? And on what basis do we have the right to insist over the years and throughout various Pakistani governments. Are they doomed to all eternity to obey US orders because someone made some commitments at some point?
"We have learned anew the profound cost of war." Doesn't look like Obama has learned a damn thing. If there are profound costs of war, what are the glorious benefits that would blatantly overshadow these costs?
A. G. Phillbin
June 24th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Obama is doing his usual excellent job of having it both ways, no matter what the issue.
Mark
June 26th, 2011 at 3:28 am
"Washington policymakers, who seem to actually believe their own propaganda."
A wise person once said that one of the signs of a declining empire is when the ruling class believes its own propaganda.
morleyevans
June 26th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
LET'S REVIEW THE BASICS: With the evaporation of the U.S.S.R. and the Peoples Republic of China morphing into the world's manufacturing centre, the United States needed a new enemy. Otherwise, WAR, the only business left for Americans, would disappear along with cars, steel, electronics, textiles, clothing, food. . . A new Pearl Harbor was dreamed up and the World Trade Centre was destroyed. Something happened at the Pentagon too, but it was not destroyed or even damaged very much. A new Empire of Japan was created to attack. They called it Al Qaeda, the base. The name could sound pretty sinister and because it is a fantasy, it can be anything. It can be anywhere and everywhere. Al Qaeda is even better than a Red under every bed. So Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and the rest are back in business. IF THE UNITED STATES STOPPED ATTACKING EVERYONE WE WOULD HAVE WORLD PEACE.