The Republican congressional leadership was in a panic: their covering for the Obama administration’s unconstitutional and unnecessary war in Libya was rapidly unraveling as a resolution by Rep. Dennis Kucinich calling for an end to it gained momentum – among Republicans. Kucinich’s bill gave the administration 15 days to withdraw all US forces and support from NATO’s war, which had never been authorized by Congress.
At the last minute, House Speaker John “Crybaby” Boehner cobbled together a non-binding resolution giving the President an extension of the 60 days provided by the War Powers Resolution, asking for documents detailing our political and strategic goals, and slamming the administration for not providing “a compelling rationale” for military action. The resolution passed, 268-145, with 45 Democrats crossing the aisle and voting with the Republicans. More significantly, however, the Kucinich resolution – which would have cut off appropriations for the Libyan intervention – garnered more Republican votes (87) than Democratic “ayes” (61).
What’s going on here?
As The Hill reported, “one Democrat called it ‘the sign of the apocalypse.’” And while that may be overstating the case just a bit, the vote was indeed a sign of Something Big in the making.
It was more than mere partisan opportunism, although there’s no doubt some of that was a factor: this vote represents a sea change in the way Republicans, and conservatives generally, view the conduct of US foreign policy. For the first time since the Kosovo war, a significant faction within the GOP congressional caucus is challenging our bipartisan foreign policy of global intervention – of which the Libyan war is an exemplar.
Context is everything, and the economic crisis that has gripped the nation in recent months – underscored by an unemployment rate over 9 percent and a disastrous housing market – has driven home the point anti-interventionists have been making for years: we’re “nation-building” abroad while our own country is falling to pieces. This is something that everyone – even a Republican – can readily understand, and the freshman “tea party” class of 2010 is learning very quickly the lesson their elders refused to absorb during the Bush era: we can’t afford to police the world.
As for the Democrats, it’s not only party loyalty – and the threat of political retaliation – that’s keeping them in line. Minority leader Nancy Pelosi took to the House floor pleading with members of her own party to stay the course:
“As I have said before, the NATO-led efforts in Libya will be strengthened by continued consultation with the Congress. The resolutions by Speaker Boehner and Congressman Kucinich, as currently drafted, do not advance our efforts in the region and send the wrong message to our NATO partners.”
Pelosi was answered by Rep. Walter B. Jones, a North Carolina Republican whose district encompasses more military bases than any in the country:
“NATO’s feelings. NATO’s feelings. Well, how about the feelings of the American people? Isn’t it time that their feelings come first?”
That the American people overwhelmingly oppose US intervention in Libya matters not at all to the Pelosi-crats, and their Republican allies like Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Illinois), who inexplicably declared: “This war, this action in Libya, I believe sells itself.”
The reality is that the public isn’t buying this bill of goods and the Pelosi-Kinzinger alliance of knaves and fools knows it.
Kinzinger, for his part, is a gung-ho neocon who refuses to rule out sending in US ground troops and echoed the claims of the Obama administration that as many as 100,000 were about to be slaughtered by Gadhafi. This wild and unverifiable claim turned out to be yet another false alarm, just like those ever-elusive “weapons of mass destruction” that were supposed to be in Iraq: today, the UN is condemning both sides for abuses. But that’s too subtle for the square-jawed ex-Special Ops “military stud” who seems to be all brawn and little brain.
As the crisis of the empire reaches the boiling point, and the US slips ever further into financial and moral insolvency – as the very structure of our overseas network of garrisoned protectorates and military bases begins to crack and sink – the lines are being drawn on the home front, and the War Party is taking on a whole new political coloration.
To the Pelosi-crats, war is just another Keynesian “stimulus” program, and, as war supporter Rep. Jim Moran stupidly put it during the House floor debate, a way to assert ourselves as “the moral superpower.” Just how “moral” these liberal warmongers are was dramatized quite vividly on ABC’s “This Week,” this past Sunday, where “progressive” economist Paul Krugman, the Keynesian point man who thinks government can spend us out of an economic depression, declared a new war that would solve the nation’s looming economic problems:
“If we suddenly had a military build up and the threat of war, you’d be surprised how fast the economy would recover.”
He added, parenthetically, that this would be the “wrong” way to stimulate, as opposed to the “right” way – i.e. having the Fed print up a few trillion more increasingly worthless dollars – but this caveat is just rhetorical window dressing. In spite of Rep. Moran’s ridiculous preening over America “the moral superpower,” how many actually believe Washington wouldn’t turn to war as a way of “solving” our economic crisis?
The idea that war is good for the economy is nonsense, of course, and yet it is a view held close to the hearts of “progressive” Keynesians everywhere, who believe any and all government spending is good in and of itself. It doesn’t matter what we spend it on: in theory, we could dump dollars out of airplanes in the skies over Tripoli and still get the same “beneficial” economic “stimulus.” Has a loonier economic “theory” ever been proposed, let alone put into practice? And yet that is precisely the view taken by this administration and its clueless supporters in Congress and among the pundit-ocracy.
State capitalism, or corporate socialism, cannot sustain itself [.pdf]: it needs the constant pump-priming of the Federal Reserve to maintain the kind of mindless momentum required to keep the economy in motion. Eventually, this course will take us to the dead end of a worthless dollar and slavery to the banks – to whom we’ll be paying interest on borrowed money unto eternity. In the short term, however, the politicians and interest groups that profit from Big Government will maintain their power, perks, and privileges – and the short term is all they know or care about. So their battle cry is: keep those government printing presses rolling! Keep “stimulating” the corpse of the economy, so that it assumes the illusion of life – and get ready to create a lot more human corpses, if necessary, because war is a “stimulant.”
Well, yes, it’s a stimulant for the human ghouls who pose as “humanitarians,” for a president who lacks national security credibility, and for a party still trying to shed its image as being insufficiently warlike. In the real world, however, war is a destroyer: unlike peaceful capitalist investment, its end product is death and destruction, not capital goods. Only in the warped mind of an ideologically-driven “economist” is the mass murder of innocents anything but a crime.
New lines are being drawn: on one side we have those who see government as the end-all and be-all of human existence, the savior and source of economic vitality, the motive-power of a nation. On the other side, we have a growing movement of those who challenge this premise, and see government as the Great Destroyer and enemy of freedom and prosperity. The former are bound to ally themselves with the War Party, which, after all, worships the State, while the latter – whether they realize it or not – are the War Party’s deadliest enemies.
This is why neocons like David Frum have taken to excoriating the “tea party” for wanting to cut government too much, too fast – because they know it presents an insuperable obstacle to their war plans. You can’t have an American empire without Big Government: you can’t have a far-flung network of overseas bases and client states without nearly unlimited funding to pay for it all. That’s why Frum disdains all attempts by the Tea Partiers to cut the size and scope of government, and why the Republican Establishment stands in mortal fear of the insurgency that threatens to take over the GOP.
The crisis of empire is the crisis of an America overextended on every front – and that includes the foreign policy front, as many Republicans and conservatives are now recognizing. The apocalypse the Establishment of both parties fears is upon us – and let us pray it comes swiftly and mercilessly.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





Johnny in Wi.
June 5th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
I see you are back in your old fighting form Justin. This column says it all. The Republic can never get back to fiscal and moral solvency until it abondons it's empire. The sooner that happens the better.
paul
June 5th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
When Left and Right come together, we can have a populist movement that can set this country on the right track.
Hrebeljanovic
June 5th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Marvelous Justin, just marvelous. It reminded me of the age of Pericles.
Yeah, take them to shreds, which is what they are from the very beginning.
Ira7Epstein
June 5th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
War is good for the economy. Those who pimp war are humanitarians, You forgot we are in bizzaro world. Need a reminder? Paul Krugman won the Noble prize for economics!
Hacklheber
June 6th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Yes! These are words one can agree with.
“This war, this action in Libya, I believe sells itself.” … War as an organ donor?
montaigne
June 6th, 2011 at 12:48 am
"he short term is all they know or care about". Yes, in crisis mode. And perversely that is thought to be good for the economy. The crisis mode makes people long-sighted, productive, investing, positive, confident? Evokes the animal spirit! Yes in a cetain way: the spirit of grab and run, kill and deny, fake and evade.
They hope the myth ow WW2 as absolutely morally right can overcome any obstacles. But it is cetainly becoming harder and harder, when no enemy attacks one. Perhaps another group of terrorists can be fooled into a most probably enforced-to-spectacular-level-event. But will the public eat that one too regardless of by now feeling some consequences on themselves from the previous one?
mickperry
June 6th, 2011 at 12:49 am
As we watched civil society in Iraq disintegrate following the US led invasion and occupation, people the world over were staggered to hear Secretary for Defence Rumsfeld exclaim that “..we don't do nation building”. The logical conclusion was drawn that neither does the US 'police the world' but rather plunders it for its own purposes. As for 'Big Government', many US citizens today must be asking themselves where exactly this monolithic institution might be found?
The picture that we get from abroad is of a nation whose government has abandoned its own people to an impending third world penury, and has become instead a mere instrument of enablement for a thoroughly corrupted business class which firmly controls both political parties. How many US citizens today would say that they have a government by, for, and of the people? I suspect that it would amount to a very tiny and ever shrinking minority.
Quid Quintessa
June 6th, 2011 at 3:16 am
I really want to agree with you Justin, though isn't it likely these Republicans are opposing the Libya adventure because it was Obama who initiated it? Unfortunately, and maybe this is overactive cynicism talking, it seems our American penchant for war is without limit. Sadly, a contentious and typically partisan vote is no evidence of a moral reversal.
james
June 6th, 2011 at 3:19 am
Good column Justin, but how do you relate this to the non-stop standing ovations given Bibi in congress last month? Be it Republican or Democrat I believe what you see is just a timy fraction of the big picture. Libya is a very small fish in the ocean.
If tomorrow Bibi comes and INSTRUCTS YOUR congress about a need for another war for Israel, what do you think they will do? What do you think the American people will do? I think all congress and the American people will only oblige and obey with enthusiasm.
Unless you draw a line regarding Israel, nothing substantial will happen, all what we see is blindfolds being used.
Bianca
June 6th, 2011 at 7:17 am
This is exactly what it is. There is NO anti-war party. Tea Party only ACTS antiwar, but it is not. Neither party, not any of its portions, are antiwar. They are all PRO-ESTABLISHMENT. They are all elite, hoping to keep the system running. Tea Party icons, like Rand Paul, flip-flop spectacularly. He SAYS right things for cameras, and votes antiwar when it is SAFE, and when it is clear that war (any war) is not in danger. These people, should they come to power, will be the bitter pill to Republicans just like Obama is to Democrats. The first they will do — sell our education, public services and all other remaining public goods, to corporations. Corporations will get the money from banks — more bank slavery. Ending the wars will not be happening. New wars are in the pipeline. I see it coming, and it will be in Yemen. War narrative has already been planted in the media. Just watch the language of "terrorist" threat, and how it all neatly dovetails to little bizzare events that do not pass the straight face test. But who is to stop it?
Jason
June 6th, 2011 at 7:58 am
"This is something that everyone – even a Republican – can readily understand, and the freshman “tea party” class of 2010 is learning very quickly the lesson their elders refused to absorb during the Bush era: we can’t afford to police the world."
We should agitate to get troops out of Asia, Europe, and Africa, leaving behind small consulates & embassies, and naval ships at sea to patrol international waters, and take up policing the Western Hemisphere and retaining drone technology. That's enough.
Bob D
June 6th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Frum may be an ugly cynical blood sucking neocon, but at least he is consistent. Pelosi, that antiwar advocate during the Bush administration, voting against intervention in Iraq, turn my stomach with her sucking up to the perpetual war advocates once the democrats have the white house.
Ira7Epstein
June 6th, 2011 at 9:46 am
New wars are in the pipeline. Gates has already stated that the Pentagon will always have a full menu, and talked about future wars with Iran, North Korea, and China. Notice how nothing in earnest, that is something that is effective and has a chance to work, is ever done to end any war. A solution that has a chance of working is to impeach and throw out of office President's who lie their way to war (Bush) or start illegal wars (Obomba). This will never happen because most members of Congress are bought and paid for by the Masters of War. Permanent war is a permanet feature of the corrupt, one party, Republicrat state.
Paul Stokes
June 6th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Re: "To the Pelosi-crats, war is just another Keynesian “stimulus” program…"
That is nonsense.
You shouldn't sully your more general and accurate discussion of US imperialism.
Jaime
June 6th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
I doubt the US government will abandon its ways until it's too late, and this has to do with the blindness that hubris creates. Probably it's written that America will pay for its sins by going down all the way to the bottom. And there are a lot of sins to pay indeed!
dink
June 6th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Says, OpenCongress websight http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2305-GO…
“[Republican leaders] hadn’t seen much of a threat from [the Kucinich bill]. He’s kind of this marginal figure and having his resolution go down narrowly would be no big deal and might even send a message to the administration,” said one of the Republican aides. “But once they saw that there was substantial support, they were like, ‘Whoa.’”
Good, antiwar.com is working. The mood of the country is changing and the political-class-incest-types are getting a wake up call. John “Crybaby” Boehner tricks won't last forever.
Jason
June 6th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
"House Speaker John “Crybaby” Boehner"
Come on, Justin. You're better than the other name-callers who pollute our political discourse.
MoT
June 6th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
The American people? When have our wishes been listened to except when they coincide with the nose pulling rhetoric and lies we're force fed on a daily basis. The so-called American people only exist as a phantom to be conjured up only when it suits the Nomenklatura and shat upon the other 99.99 percent of the time.
MoT
June 6th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I'm all for name calling. It's appropriate given the "civilized" fucking we get from the self aggrandizing shit-birds from on high.
zapatatio
June 6th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
YES, until the empire collapses there cannot be World Peace ! There will a lot of nasty fallout, but it has to happen.
greg
June 6th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Totally agree- how can we fix a problem when we can't talk about the cause?
greg
June 6th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
The War on Poverty, the War on Drugs, The War on Terror. I've thought sarcastically for a long time that we'd have a War on Violence – and now we do.
MvGuy
June 6th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
WELL Said Ira…… "Permanent war is a permanent feature of the corrupt, one party, Republicrat state. " is the most cogent thing I have read in months…. You are on a roll Ira… Keep your O So Apt zingers coming…. they are nourishment for the soul in these times of self destructive folly!!
MvGuy
June 6th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
maybe a war on treason….. the treason that puts the interests and solvency of some distant place FAR ahead of the place where we and they live and werk…!!!
musings
June 6th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
"We can't afford to police the world." Yes, that's true. But here's a pretty pickle (from something in the Forbes May 31, 2011: "Goldman Sachs Lost 98% of Libya's $1.3 Billion Sovereign Wealth Fund Investment"): the countries which sit on the oil become cash rich, they then must invest it, and certain parties continue to rip them off. But it doesn't end with the rip-off, because the wounded party is then dangerous. He has be "taken out". See how the game is played? It isn't that we need policemen all over the world in the sense that you and I need them for our security. It's that the big players use our military as muscle for their scams, the way rival gangs use cops in corrupt places to take out their enemies. The military may just be bought and paid for so the cons may continue. If we see ourselves as Tea Party patriots, that might be cute for nostalgia and all that. But it hardly deals with the real problem of the bloodsucking monster that needs the wars.
Jamal
June 6th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
1- This is POLITICS played side by side for the few.
It is not the question if they do or they will have a strategy for peace or victory. US militarism regime is almost a 90 billion dollar industry, so here is the question: if there was a peace plan and by that US government brought all the US military home, even 50%, of 1.9 million solders home then what would they do with all the solders, where would they house them, how would they find job and what would they do with what’s left of those factory workers and engineers working at factories which by now need to be drown down or closed due to peace.
If there is a victory.., which although is the US and EU goals.., but with considerable argument and questions marks and then what..,? By then half of the world is ruined, 30-50 million people are killed, industries and in general countries infrastructures’ are no longer useable, disease and social problems are on the rise which by now these problem have created a situation for people arming themselves demanding a better life.., which in reality is the present human situations., countries after countries are poor and governments and people are struggling for everyday life and existence, such situation even exist in what is called “industrialized” countries, with more people unemployed and homelessness is on the rise; whereby the “estimated” victory we have achieved nothing and we are back in square one.
In another word, a victory comes with its problems and peace with yet another from of problem and here is the differences among those who want to continue the trend not having a long-term solution and those who want to stop all wars changing the entire system for peace. Hence, more wars creates more dictatorial social political system which is a proven fact, les war however have another form of social economical impacts which needs to be solved in time of peace. Here, with initiation of peace at least the killings and destructions have been stopped and war machineries’ complex going to lose their social political connection and influences.
War is a moneymaking industry.., part of US and EU economy is the war industry., and there is no moral involved.., those whom are for wars have no moral to begin with, otherwise they would work for democracy to function rather then creating wars.., here, as longs as governments can argue that war is good for working man and women and working people believe in it, then war is good for overall economy; therefore, the influence of war industry and while government taxing working people is what the war industry injects into the system for government to be at war/s while the war machinery and shareholders profiting in all directions.
There is a social psychological warfare coming from government institutions which have made wars a holy matter, a daily concept for people to understand that war is a good thing, as long as US and EU are at war it helps people to “think“ that a better life based on a grater “civilization“ is on the horizon, so government will lie telling the people that victory is on hand or peace is coming.., and by their continues lies people have lost their social political enthusiasm and therefore they don’t trust the system even if its called democracy, written or signed as the constitution which should and needs to be the law of land, hence the matter is if the law of land is respected by the governments…!
Continues:
Jamal
June 6th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
2- Having said that: any government needs to function for its people, which is the foremost government obligation toward its people, otherwise why people have a government/s…! so goes for democracy, democracy needs to be functioning, based on its social economics and political principals, here blending the capitalism economy system with democracy results in what you got., a non functioning democracy based on capitalism economic principals.., a governing institution based on capitalism social economic regime withstanding its militarism to crush any and every kind of “civilizations” into what is called “nation building“. What is missing here is the cheating aspects of the wording, in one way it declares that other nations are not “civilized” so “morally” it has become the US “moral superpower” or EU obligation to build nations.., forgetting the fact that; nations are there with their culture, traditions and languages intact; hence what is missing is democracy, a functioning democracy created by the people and for the people, here when US politicians speaking of being a “superpower” and therefore it is the superpower “moral” obligation to act is just another lie. US is a police state to start with.., so where is democracy or for that matter the respect for constitution where it prohibits president to start wars! Therefore, there is no victory nor there is going to be a peace unless the entire social economic and political system is changed. Here I am not saying what Barack Hussein Obama or president before him have said.., Change.., I mean a total change for better where there is a change in democracy itself and for a functioning system based on functioning democracy.., not a kind of change where a new war is created or moved from one area to another. Libya war is one of those “changes“ which has changed nothing. This is a non functioning democracy having nothing to do with moral values, is a excuse for the elite of capitalism who are in control in having wars and expending it. Here again.., there is no morally correct issues involved here.., by using the word “superpower” the entire matter becomes immoral because the indication is based on a militarism regime acting as “moral superpower” to enforce what and where the system sees fit to be called moral wars.., here is a question for those democrats and republicans whom believe in “moral superpower”, George W. Bush and his entire staff were made of those whom lied to American people and the world about Iraq war, where is your moral in bringing those who are responsible for what is done to Iraq demanding for justice and prosecuting the responsible ones, or for that matter those who ordered the torture in Iraq and killings and etc.
To some extend the world and its social political and economies is not on the hand of people nor in practical terms is for the people, the international economy is not balanced and there are much less people benefiting from international economic cooperation then the general populations, there are more and more hunger and homelessness, shortages of everything in the world then there is this problem creating jobs; nonetheless, there are more and more ideological wars among those who call themselves communist (China) and those who work for capitalism or the religious political aspects of it then the practical solutions. Here, China is presenting a cheap labor and cheap products which “thought” to be the “communist economic“, meanwhile there are more and more capitalist created in China then any other country in the world, so the Chinas political hierarchy is only presenting those who can make a deal with US or EU capitalism social political nature; however, Chinas cheap labor and cheap products is what “poor people” in US and EU are using, this is not because they want to, but because they cannot afford the capitalism products at home; therefore, these little wars are capitalism – Chinas wars paid and supported by China to open a new market for itself, these little wars are about natural resources and whatever the other countries have or kind of market that can be provided to China, USA and EU and for US and EU to keep their war machinery operational, these little modernized wars are not about democracy nor is about peoples freedom from Capitalism or Chinas “stylish communism” or for that matter the religious dictatorial regimes.., nor there is any moral involved.., but rather is a social political aspects of the game where capitalism and Chinas “stylish communism” benefits from.
Having said that: if there was a functioning democracy in US or for that matter in EU.., or China was a communist institutions then there shouldn’t be a economic cooperation where China is paying for these little wars and EU/US is eager to barrow more money for upcoming wars competing for market shares.., or for that matter there shouldn’t be any homeless by millions of people in US or EU, there shouldn’t be any lack of jobs or healthcare system and paid by thousands of dollars to educational system to be educated. Then again, this is how the capitalism system works, you want to serve your country you either pay it with your life joining army and entering a war and then get paid.., or have a military education.., or you pay for your education to work for the system.
liberranter
June 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
And the Obamunist the "peace" [sic] prize.
liberranter
June 7th, 2011 at 9:31 am
What exactly is it about Justin's assertion here that you find in error? War is the ultimate "Keynesian stimulus program."
liberranter
June 7th, 2011 at 9:32 am
If I can find any fault with Justin's epithet, it's that it's not strong enough for its subject.
How about John "Lying Neocon Warmongering Chickenhawk Plutocrat" Boehner?
I think that about covers all of his obvious flaws.
Oswaldwasalefty
June 7th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
The United States happens to be in the unique position of being impervious to invasion because of its unprecedented military power. No, a band of highjackers taking over and crashing a few planes doesn't count as successfully staging an invasion of the U.S. No organized state, not even the combination of states known as the EU, is capable of successfully invading the U.S.
The Pentagon system has acted as a conduit for central planning of the economy in the post WWII era, especially in the 50's and 60's. It provided college educations for millions of people. It's been a vehicle for research into advanced technology and is the reason why we're reading Justin's column on the Internet. The building of weaponry and deployment of soldiers to use said weaponry against some hapless punching bag of a country overseas does put money into the domestic economy with the employment it creates. It's not that I like what bomb builders and pilots do with bombs, but it does lead to the direct and indirect employment of millions of people. As long as we can build bombs and fire them at will all over the world, without any remote possibility of retaliation for the aggressive ways of Washington, then expect the Pentagon to keep doing what it does.
We've had a Permanent War Economy for seven decades now and this way of life isn't going anywhere anytime soon. We can advocate and campaign for alternatives to it. Most of the voting public has wanted the Pentagon system dismantled for decades now. A glaring example of the deficit between the desires of the politically active public and government policy.
Daniel Raphael
June 7th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
This article is vintage Raimondo. Glad you're feeling better!
LibertyRising
June 7th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Nasty fallout is an understatement. I've seen predictions of 2/3 to 3/4 of American population as casualties. The old, very young, sick, disabled, just plain stupid (Repubs and Dems alike) – as Robert Heinlein stated so eloquently " Stupidity is the only capital crime."
As long as the common man is willing to tolerate the predations of the state, those who control the machinery of state – and benefit from it – will keep on preying.
C. Wendt
June 8th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Bianca, Rand Paul is legitimately anti-war, just like his father, who opposed the Iraq War from the start and has voted against continuing or funding it ever since. This is certainly not "saying the right thing for the cameras," since both of them have reduced their stock in their own party by not towing the "war-as-highest-good" Republican line.
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proophesee
June 17th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
It s too late for discussion. Get prepared for the secret army to hunt down anti war,anti internationalists as they gather all the info on each of us. You think that kind of tyranny can't happy in the USA? The same tactics and line used in Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and others is being prepared.
The patriot act is the door, and the end will be the International government control.
It will take a very radical awakening of the American people and help of elements in the army to stop it
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