The Japanese Internment and the Betrayal of the ‘Progressives’
FDR’s wartime dictatorship: lessons for today
As libertarians know, and most of the rest of us suspect, government lies are as ubiquitous as the air we breathe, and the higher up we go the bigger the deception. Most of the time, we get the truth – if we get it – from whistleblowers, or renegade journalists, but the most recent case of truth-telling comes from Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal, as the Los Angeles Times reports:
“In an extraordinary admission of misconduct, [Katyal] took to task one of his predecessors for hiding evidence and deceiving the Supreme Court in two of the major cases in its history: the World War II rulings that upheld the detention of more than 110,000 Japanese Americans.
"Katyal said Tuesday that Charles Fahy, an appointee of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, deliberately hid from the court a report from the Office of Naval Intelligence that concluded the Japanese Americans on the West Coast did not pose a military threat. The report indicated there was no evidence Japanese Americans were disloyal, were acting as spies or were signaling enemy submarines, as some at the time had suggested.”
Fahy suppressed a report from the Office of Naval Intelligence which denied Japanese-Americans represented a security threat, and maintained that those who did were either already in custody or else known to the authorities. Fahy, on the other hand, believed there was no way to differentiate between the loyal and the disloyal, and said Japanese living in the US were motivated by “racial solidarity.” This comment clearly characterizes Fahy as an inveterate racist, a reactionary, and a Very Bad Person with nativist inclinations – except that Fahy was hardly a know-nothing type. In fact, he was one of Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s legal liberals, a former head of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) legal department, whose reputation as a “legal craftsman” – i.e. one who stuck to the letter of the law, and avoided broader policy questions – was well-established.
After the war, when President Truman issued a presidential order desegregating the armed forces, he appointed Fahy the head of a committee to implement the desegregation process, which was being fought tooth and nail by military commanders, especially in the army. Fahy – the former enemy of Japanese “racial solidarity” – diligently pursued Truman’s desegregation order.
The liberal-lefty lawyers who worked for FDR’s Justice Department were split on the constitutionality of the internment order, and many were inclined to argue for it in court based on narrow legal arguments. Yet Fahy was part of a hard-line faction within the Roosevelt and Truman administrations that deferred to the War Department and insisted on ferociously defending the federal government’s position when the internments were challenged in court. As Solicitor General, Fahy also zealously prosecuted the federal government’s case against alleged “seditionists” whose “crimes” consisted of writing articles and pamphlets that supposedly were aimed at “causing insubordination in the armed forces” of the US in wartime.
Under Fahy’s direction, the defense of internment was argued in terms that prefigured the arguments made sixty years later by George W. Bush’s legal eagles, who maintained that the various infringements on the traditional constitutional rights enjoyed by all Americans were overridden by the President’s supreme authority as commander-in-chief. Powers given the chief executive in wartime, argued Fahy’s legal team, gave the Roosevelt administration the authority to imprison anyone, including American citizens, for any reason deemed militarily necessary. And so we see that the PATRIOT Act, the Military Commissions Act, and other such unconstitutional legislation that has the Founders turning over in their graves, have ample precedent – thanks to the “progressive” legal legacy left to us by FDR.
If the government’s own lawyers were split on the internment question, then so, too, was the other side, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). When the internment order was announced, the pro-civil liberties faction of the ACLU proposed a resolution to the governing board that would have gotten the ACLU involved in court challenges based on the premise that the order was clearly in violation of the Constitution, and impermissible in a free society.
Supporters of the administration mobilized within the ACLU, and drafted a counter-resolution which granted the government the right to intern “enemy aliens,” including US citizens, in the name of “national security,” and proposed taking on only those cases in which no clear “reasonable” basis for internment could be proved. This was, in effect, the Justice Department’s position. In the end, the anti-civil libertarians – including commie Corliss Lamont, lefty loudmouth Max Lerner, and the literary critic and Stalin apologist Van Wyck Brooks – prevailed. (See Peter H. Irons’ Justice At War for the full list of ACLU hypocrites.)
Roger Baldwin, ACLU chairman, was instructed by the ACLU Board that “local committees are not free to sponsor cases in which the position taken is that the government has no constitutional right to remove citizens from military areas.” The only grounds ACLU lawyers were permitted to argue the case were that the internment order constituted “racial discrimination.” Thus began the ACLU’s abandonment of strict adherence to the Constitution and its drift toward political correctness: outright authoritarianism propelled by rampant militarism was perfectly fine by them, as long as there was no “racism” involved.
As war hysteria swept the country, the “anti-fascist” contingents of the American Left united behind the banner of “Dr. Win-the-War,” and used the newly-acquired wartime powers and prestige of the federal government to ram their radical domestic agenda down the throats of the courts and the people. As John Wilson puts it in “How World War II Saved the New Deal”:
“World War II was a godsend to American liberals. The New Deal had been dead in the water since 1937, torpedoed by its fundamental failure to effect an end to the Depression and its increasingly annoying meddling with traditional patterns of American life. A conservative coalition of Republicans and southern Democrats blocked almost all of Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt’s initiatives until the foreign policy crisis of 1939-41.
“That crisis renewed the President’s vigor and allowed him gradually to maneuver the U.S. into a position that made entering the war in Europe and the Pacific inevitable. He was aided immeasurably by the recklessness of the Japanese and Germans. Nothing unites people like a common enemy. Since foreign policy always reflects domestic policy (and that goes for military policy, too), it should surprise nobody that the New Dealers geared up for war in New Deal ways. What happened between 1941 and 1945 was an expansion of the national state so vast as to be virtually irreversible.”
This expansion was fulsomely supported by the liberals and “progressives” of the ACLU majority, and they stood by while not only Japanese-Americans but also prominent opponents of US entry into the war were smeared, spied on, prosecuted, and – in some cases – locked up. Some even cheered rather loudly as the largely left-wing mob screamed for “isolationist” blood.
It’s interesting to note that, while even the US government has officially recognized the great injustice done to those who were interned, and apologized for its actions, the ACLU has never acknowledged its horrific betrayal of its own principles and its pernicious role – which amounted to complicity with the internment policy – in this shameful episode in our history. C’mon, ACLU-ers – face the music, and apologize!
The lessons for today are so clear as to be blinding, which is why those who most need to know this history will do everything possible to not know it or evade its implications. We are at a very similar moment in American history, with a world war – an eternal “war on terrorism” – raging across the globe, and a war on our civil liberties raging right here on the home front. A “progressive” President is defending the PATRIOT Act in court, and in Congress, as well as coming up with new and ever-more-draconian “national security” rationales and legal briefs, which – as Glenn Greenwald has pointed out, at length – go beyond even what Bush administration lawyers were willing to argue. Yet where are the voices of protest among “liberal” Democrats in Congress? All we hear is the voice of Democratic Senate majority leader Harry Reid, who accused Sen. Rand Paul of “aiding the terrorists” because he threatened to hold up reauthorization of the PATRIOT Act.
The silence of the liberals, both in Congress and the media, in the face of the Obama administration’s assault on civil liberties in wartime is a disgrace. They have made their pact with the Devil in order to achieve what they regard as much more important gains: they are ready to sacrifice their (always conditional) devotion to civil liberties in order to achieve “economic equality,” i.e., preserve our faltering and near-bankrupt welfare state. If they have to endorse – or simply not protest – the depredations of the Warfare State in order to accomplish this, well then so be it.
Wartime is not a favorable time for cutting back on the power – and financial resources – of the US government. Indeed, wars have been the occasion for every Great Leap Forward in the power of the federal government to control every aspect of our lives, and militarism is playing a similar role in the current chapter of that ongoing story. As “progressives” contemplate an increased role for the federal government on the Obama administration’s initiative, their opposition to Washington’s increasingly aggressive foreign policy is dulled and even reversed.
Partisan politics also enter into the equation. During World War II, a cult of personality surrounded FDR, similar in intensity to the Obama cult that infects the Democratic electorate today – and this personality cult was yet another factor that made is possible for vaunted “liberals” and “civil libertarians” to go along with the internment plan of the administration. Certainly liberals and progressives of the time enthusiastically supported US entry into the war: again, in part, for purely partisan reasons. The same herd mentality holds sway, today, among their intellectual and political descendants.
Look at Kevin Drum, the prominent liberal blogger, made infamous by his declaration of craven fealty to this administration, and not only when it comes to foreign policy:
“If it had been my call, I wouldn’t have gone into Libya. But the reason I voted for Obama in 2008 is because I trust his judgment. And not in any merely abstract way, either: I mean that if he and I were in a room and disagreed about some issue on which I had any doubt at all, I’d literally trust his judgment over my own. I think he’s smarter than me, better informed, better able to understand the consequences of his actions, and more farsighted. I voted for him because I trust his judgment, and I still do.”
While this is clearly the voice of somebody either angling for a job, or some kind of personal favor – perhaps just an invitation to party with the Powers That Be – in my view, it also represents a widespread sentiment in the ranks of the liberal-left, one that bodes ill for the future of liberty in this country. Drum’s confession of unmitigated Leader-worship is the very mindset that made one of the most shameful episodes in American history possible: and please don’t tell me it can’t happen here. It has happened here, and – given the continuation of present trends – could very well happen again.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Up Against the FBI – May 23rd, 2013
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013





liberranter
June 1st, 2011 at 12:08 am
C’mon, ACLU-ers – face the music, and apologize!
There's a greater chance of the Roman Catholic Church being led by Pope Mohammad I.
Oswaldwasalefty
June 1st, 2011 at 1:00 am
Tariq Ali has often made a point of the errant nonsense coming from many a liberal during Bush time. Namely, that George W. Bush represented some kind of a radical break with some fair tale America that once respected civil liberties and didn't wage aggressive wars of questionable legality overseas. I remember seeing Ali speak once where I live in Seattle, and he pointed to the Japanese internment camps as just one of many examples that demonstrates that Bush II was hardly an innovator when it came to trashing the Constitution.
World War II saved the New Deal? If that is what FDR and his inner circle were really thinking, then they would hate to see the results of helping create a permanent warfare state, which is what the U.S. has been since 1941. World War II was the last time the American worker would see a full pay check on pay day, as income tax withholding was introduced in 1943, I believe. In fact, the period from the late 30's to early 40's saw the largest tax increase in national history. Taxes were already being raised prior to 1941, so I it is clear that FDR had every intention of entering the war before then. By the late 60's it was already very obvious that the public assistance programs of the 30's and 60's couldn't co exist with an ever growing global warfare state.
Nixon was the last liberal president, in terms of his actual policies, not labels and campaign speech rhetoric. Obama, like Clinton before him, is a reactionary Republican and it's about time people stopped calling him a "liberal".
Bud
June 1st, 2011 at 3:09 am
Lefties know that the best way to push through 'progressive' social programs is under the cover of an aggressive foreign policy. Want Medicaid, public housing and AFDC? Kill 3 million Vietnamese. Want 'health care reform'? Attack poor farmers in Pakistan and concoct a bogus war in Libya. In the current 'War on Terror', uh 'Overseas Contingency Operation', tribal peasants in AfPak serve as a sort of surrogate punching bag for libs. Don't like 'tea baggers'? Take it out on backward, conservative religious folk on the other side of the world.
drosera
June 1st, 2011 at 6:17 am
Odd Justin publishes another screed attacking the Left just when his funding campaign is crying for more money. This site is not just "anti-war"–it is libertarian to the core. No wonder it seems to be foundering.
Greg
June 1st, 2011 at 7:34 am
You can't donate other people's money to this site, so cozying up with the liberals would not help the fundraising drive.
bnonymous
June 1st, 2011 at 8:03 am
Through the War Production Board and the Office of Price Administration, FDR's administration took all but total control of the economic life of the USA 1941-1945. He meant to win the war and to win it decisively in as short a time as possible, and he did exactly that, smashing the Axis Powers in a mult-theater global conflict in less than four calendar years from day the USA entered WWII. FDR's economic policies were absolutely essential to the USA's complete and timely victory in WWII. The USA has not decisively won a major military conflict since 1945. With the exception of General Electric, the vast majority of today's "defense" giants, private corporations that wield enormous political power in Washington, have few or no products that are useful in peacetime, and thus, at best, there is little or no financial advantage to those corporations in the USA actually winning the wars in which their products are consumed. Indeed, the USA's run-amok the "defense" industry is precisely the monstrous killing machine that President Eisenhower warned Americans about in his prescient Farewell Address. America is at war because war is profitable for America's big "defense" corporations.
bnonymous
June 1st, 2011 at 8:06 am
America's version of war-capitalism–war for private profit–is failing primarily because it is a fundamentally and fatally flawed enterprise that flies in the face of spiritual reality, a huge and hideously destructive crime against humanity, a flagrant betrayal of the ethic of reciprocity: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Justin Raimondo
June 1st, 2011 at 8:38 am
Are you disputing the facts in my article? Implicit in your comment is the idea that I'm supposed to shut up about inconvenient facts because I don't want to offend potential contributors. Of course, a bona fide leftist would never make such a condition, so I have to assume you're one of the (many) fakes.
Hans
June 1st, 2011 at 8:51 am
That's because the left have become decadent and materialistic. A mountain of brown bodies in AfPak don't mean as much to them as some posh, progressive pinko's ill deserved retirement package.
Oswaldwasalefty
June 1st, 2011 at 9:46 am
AFDC was instituted in 1935, about 20 years before the U.S. started to intervene in Vietnam to disrupt the Geneva Agreements. Medicare for seniors was one of LBJ's key pieces of progressive legislation.
There is an anti war contingent among these so called lefties and they favor massively cutting the Pentagon budget, because they know a generous welfare state is not possible with a bloated Pentagon budget.
Jason
June 1st, 2011 at 11:09 am
While the thrust of the posting is correct, it overlooks some serious historical facts.
1) The well-known order to "evacuate" Japanese nationals (not US citizens) treated German nationals and Italian nationals identically to Japanese nationals all along the West Coast. This policy did not affect Alaska or Hawaii where there was no such "evacuation" order. And any evacuee had the right to leave those evacuation camps if they moved east. Their children, on completing high school, were each given a full scholarship to a college farther east. Overall, more German nationalists & Italian nationalists were required to move east, leaving fishing boats, businesses, farms, etc., behind, just like the Japanese nationals. The difference is that German nationals and Italian nationals moved east just as fast as they heard about the order to "evacuate" the West Coast. Many, many Japanese nationals also moved east….those who didn't were forcibly moved to Evacuation Camps. A way to get more insight into this event is to read obituaries in the daily papers of old Germans, Italians, and Japanese. Regarding the latter, the biography of their life is often about their moving to Wisconsin or Ohio or some such state during the war years. So the real question is why did so many Japanese nationals decline to do what German nationals and Italian nationals did? By the way, there is no record whatsoever of any American citizen lifting a hand against or threatening or hurting a Japanese national during WW II. We can't say the same for American citizens held by the Japanese government when it bombed Pearl Harbor.
2) There were real Internment Camps which took in many German business people in Latin America (including German Jews), and German, Italian, Spanish, Japanese, and other persons, with or without US citizenship who were feared as saboteurs, spies, and traitors to the USA. An interesting film exists made by INS during WW II about a true Internment Camp in Crystal City which had an equal population of Germans and Japanese. A rough division of work was made…the Germans worked in the fields, and the Japanese worked in small scale carpentry, vegetable gardens, and no on. These are the true Interment Camps.
3) Somehow the Internment Camps (which did not close until 2-4 years after the end of WW II have become conflated with the Evacuation Camps, but they were wildly different things. There has been much dishonesty about all this, but one of the highly amusing things is that, every so often, small newspaper articles appear in the NYT or the WSJ or the Washington Post reporting on a meeting in NYC called by ADL and one of the AJCs with reparations leaders among the Japanese community to ask the latter to cease referring to the camps where some lived by the label "Concentration Camps" which they never were. It's just interesting to see how some fight for the right to use labels of special meaning. The articles always report that the Japanese reparation leaders always end up promising not to use "Concentration Camps." Anything for $20K.
Passing By
June 1st, 2011 at 11:39 am
Justin Raimondo–" this is clearly the voice of somebody either angling for a job, or some kind of personal favor … it also represents a widespread sentiment in the ranks of the liberal-left"
You do realize that you've contradicted yourself, right?
On one hand, you say that nobody could actually believe what Kevin Drum wrote … he must have written it in hopes of getting a nice doggie biscuit. On the other hand, you say that lots of people actually do believe it.
andy
June 1st, 2011 at 12:34 pm
We should have stayed out of WW2. We shouldn't have pursued a decade long confrontational in your face policy against Japan. P.H. didn't occur out of the blue.
Bianca
June 1st, 2011 at 5:57 pm
There is no Left and Right. Can you finally get it? There is elite that finds the way to fund their need for glory and adventure, and the social programs to provide to the masses enough to keep them in dumbed down state. At present, 400 individuals own more then 50% of American people. These are that make decisions, along with the financial and corporate structure that is set up to enrich them. Can you stop picking on people's retirement system — that they fully paid into and funded, and pay attention to the money grabbing corporate monsters that sit on various islands and do not bring the money into the country. Pay ridiculously low or NO taxes, if they pay one year, miraculously they get full refund next year. Now, they want the population to turn over to them our social security, the public services, from education to fire and police. They have already gobbled up jails. Guess what? Who do we call accountable when money disappears, and we get nothing in return, or we get horror stories coming out of their managing our world? Nobody.
Bianca
June 1st, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Libertarians are going to be bitter disappointment to many. It is already clear. Look at Rand Paul. One day he votes FOR Libya resolution, the next he wants to stop it. And just when it looked like Kuchinic initiative to pull out of Libya looked like IT HAD ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS, guess what? Republicans and the earstwhile Libertarians ran quick to pull it back — so they do not have to ACTUALLY vote, so we can see what they are all about. I am afraid all they plan to do is to help corporations take over the country, and then there will be even more wars. Democrats will blame Republicans and vice-versa, all for good show and entertainment. But they all KNOW the truth. Populaton to be squeezed, corporations to be enriched and the top 500 people rule the country.
avatar singh
June 1st, 2011 at 6:20 pm
american entered world war two only to help england and no body else. jpana was encircled and ambargoed by america on sintruction of british bastards miuch before pearl harbour.
how will america fel if her oil supply is embargoed?
avatar singh
June 1st, 2011 at 6:22 pm
This is how usa treats its non-anglosaxon allies
The Guam International Agreement that followed was a remarkable diplomatic agreement both as to its content and its form. Japan was to pay both an unspecified sum (common estimates in the $10 billion range) for construction of a new base to substitute for Futenma at Henoko and $6.1 billion for the construction of US military residential and other facilities in Guam, so that “8,000 Marines and their 9,000 dependents” could be transferred from Okinawa to Guam by 2014 (leaving a smaller Marine contingent on Okinawa). As a treaty, the agreement had binding legal status. The Japanese (LDP) government, its credibility rapidly collapsing, pulled out all stops to make sure it could pay $336 million dollars to the US Treasury by May 2009, with $2.8 billion in cash and the rest in credits toward the total of $6.1 billion. The core concern was not national security – which does not appear even to have been discussed – but the determination to prolong the US occupation of Okinawa (and provide whatever service might be possible for the US’s Afghan and Iraq wars), regardless of cost.
Signed in Tokyo by Hillary Clinton in February 2009, and ratified in the Diet in May, this first initiative of the new Obama government towards Japan was plainly an unequal treaty in the sense that it imposed binding obligation on one side only. It was a design by the two governments to circumvent the democratic will of the Japanese people. The rush to sign the deal reflected the fact that the LDP was on the verge of collapsing at the polls. As I wrote then, the Guam International Agreement (Treaty)
“is likely to be studied by future generations as something crystallizing the defining moment of a relationship, when both parties went too far, the US in demanding (hastily, well aware that time was running out to cut a deal with the LDP) and Japan in submitting to something not only unequal but also unconstitutional, illegal, colonial, and deceitful. Excess on both sides was likely to generate resentment and in the long run to make the relationship more difficult to sustain.”
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avatar singh
June 1st, 2011 at 6:24 pm
it is not neocons who are for perpetual war it is the english race so called British who are instigating the perpetual war of course the English are too coward and weak to fight on their own so they have arranged a charade called NATO to do their dirty work.
Decisions in nato are made not in berlin or Belgium but only in London and some british agents’ place in washington. NATO WAS CREATED TO KEEP THE INFLUNCE OF WEAKNED BRITISH BASTARDS TO KEEP EUROPEANS DOWN (ESPECIALLY GEMRNS AND FRENCH) AND KEEP RUSSIAN THREATEND. IT WAS NOT CREATED TO counter Russia; it was created to give support by americans to the British agenda of keeping the world for the e benefit of English and anglosaxon race and that only.
as for hilary then you must understand that within one year of election of willy bill Clinton the British, who did not like Clinton had already infected Clinton clan and enslaved him to their agendas- in fact British were happy when Clinton lost democratic majority ih the house in 1994 election-they wanted not Clinton but pampered him anyway to use him for british agenda for perpetual war and Kosovo attack to justify nato existence- the same nato which was created and which serves for british interest only . It so happens that many jews have found the same aim recently as the British so it appears that it is neo con agenda -nothing could be further from he truth in fact British were adamant against Lebanon war in 1982 and were threatening Israel with atomic bomb in 1948 war.please recognise the real evil hat is British and we should neutralise that evil and dismantle their evil empire.
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So Gadaffi, Mubarak, Asad and so on are all terrorists?.
We recall that Hitler justified his invasion of Czechoslovakia on the grounds that the ethnic Germans in the Sudetenland were being mistreated and abused by their fellow Czechoslovaks.
Hitler's Germany was much more descent and honest than today's Anglo fascists.
At least they provided weapons by own money, not borrowing from China on their own people's expense.
Hitler would be envious of the lies and deception of the anglosaxon race- the angloamericaqn evil that finds some inexcusable excuse to invade other countries with blatant lies-even Hitler was right in saying that sud deautchen supported his invasion of chechoslavavia in 1938 unlike Iraqis and most of Libyans who didn’t to welcome angloamerican evil forces.
so Hitler was not justified in invading Czechoslovakia on invitation from fellow Germans there but allies so called angloamerican allies are justified in invading Libya because some armed insurgents of CIA brand invited Anglos to bomb Libya because Gadhafi wouldn’t hand over power to armed insurgents and hold on to his legitimate government. Hitler was
never that cruel compared to what the angloamerican bastards have done all cruel crimes in their colonies for last 200 years and are still doing in abufgharib, Gitmo, and to other places with bombing ,killing civilians in broad day light and every time.
it is high time that this evil anglosaxon race be sorted out by the rest of non anglorsaxon races who should attack Anglos
Oswaldwasalefty
June 1st, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Yes, the big lie we are all taught in our school history classes is that the attack on Pearl Harbor was "unprovoked". But an embargo amounts to an act of war, especially when we're talking about an essential energy resource like oil.
The_dude
June 2nd, 2011 at 4:06 am
Yes, libertarian dogma will save us all.
Forget good thinking and good morals. Just follow the dogma.
musings
June 2nd, 2011 at 5:10 am
I don't know why anyone would give you a negative on this – it's interesting and part of the bigger picture. Thanks.
musings
June 2nd, 2011 at 5:13 am
But don't you know that "in your face" is what we do? When the recipient is Saddam, not much happens, except to him. But when it is China (as launched by Donald Trump and now carried on by the media and who knows who in government – this one or the next), it may be fatal.
musings
June 2nd, 2011 at 5:22 am
And one thing that free market people don't want to confront is that the extent to which corporations are creatures of government, artificial entities whose legal framework and livelihood depend upon government. When there is war, they may be in a position to prosper. That they might have anything to do with wars, as they seek resources, can be swept under the rug, using the notion that our enemies are trying to curtail our freedoms. Sometimes an honest pro-war voice is heard, often stating that the country whose dictator we are trying to overthrow is of strategic importance. That comes from the right. On the left you hear the mommy party arguments, about how the people suffer under the cruel dictator's rule. Such postures break down when you are talking about problems in a country like Israel, because these distinctions are stood on their head. But it's the exception that proves the rule.
Robert Brager
June 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 am
"And one thing that free market people don't want to confront is that the extent to which corporations are creatures of government, artificial entities whose legal framework and livelihood depend upon government."
Correction, make that: "And one thing ANTI-free market people don't want to confront … corporations are creatures of government, artificial entities whose legal framework and livelihood depend upon government."
I've never met a libertarian who wasn't extremely vocal on this point. I have, however, met plenty of non-libertarians who, for whatever reason, seem predisposed to endeavoring to construct a straw man of libertarians and to these straw man-libertarians they assign this disinclination to confrontation.
Given that the rest of this post and others you've scattered about on this site (at least the ones I've seen) are entirely reasonable, coupled with the fact that you didn't specifically mention libertarians (although Bianca did, emphasized by her strange use of capitalization) I don't think that's what you're attempting to do here. I suppose it's purely anecdotal then. So let me ask you: do you really meet philosophical libertarians who "don't want to confront the extent to which corporations are creatures of government" all that often? Or were your comments aimed at conservatives and neo-liberals generally?
As my correction indicates, I've seen plenty non (or, make that "anti", or even "faux") libertarians who are ill at ease making that connection. Certainly, an espousal of preference for free markets when tumbled out of the mouths of mainstream politicians or bureaucrats or their policy formulators, particularly among conservatives, generally comes packaged with this disinclination to confront the statist implications of corporations… but among libertarians?
tazman
June 2nd, 2011 at 2:42 pm
And don't forget about the thousands of Germans and Italians that were rounded up and interned… Everyone concentrates on the Japanese, which was horrific, but always seem to forget there are reasons for the enclaves of Germans in TX and MI…
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