For the first time since World War II, America’s bipartisan foreign policy is being seriously questioned by both conservatives and liberals, Republicans as well as Democrats – and the War Party is on the run.
Antiwar.com has been a big part of that: for 15 years we have been plugging away, not only debunking the lies that lured us into two wars, but also providing a comprehensive analysis of world events as they unfold – educating our readers and the general public on what is the most important issue of the day, the question of war and peace. What I consider our most significant outreach campaign – to self-identified fiscal conservatives – has been a tremendous success. I know for a fact that a great deal of the unrest on the Right on foreign policy issues and the rising sentiment among Republicans in Congress to cut our ridiculously bloated “defense” budget is a direct result of our efforts.
We’ve come a long way. When the neoconservatives were riding high, right after 9/11, it seemed like the whole country was against us, screaming for war – and even some “libertarians” were backing down from their previous antiwar stance. We were virtually alone in saying that the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq was a grave error and would result in a disaster for America and the world. But we weathered the storm.
Subjected to death threats, constant denial-of-service attacks, and a vicious campaign of slander and vilification, we didn’t back down and we didn’t compromise our principles – and lived to see the tide turn the other way.
So why do I feel as though we are still mired in the dark days that followed the September 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon? Why do I fear for the future of Antiwar.com?
The reason for my fear is simple: the first day of our Spring fundraising campaign has raised a grand total of a little over $2000. If this goes on, we are finished – and that’s the truth.
It’s unfortunate that, with all that’s going on in the world, all the amazing events in the Middle East that are now unfolding before our eyes, I have to stop and write this somewhat intemperate rant, begging my readers for money – but I don’t have any choice in the matter. Because without your support, there is no Antiwar.com, no thrice-weekly link-filled information-packed column analyzing and making sense of the complex play of events. Without your support, the ace reporting of Jason Ditz, our news writer, will be no more. Without your immediate financial support, our daily compendium of the real news from around the world will disappear. Without your tax-deductible donation, the work of the past 15 or so years will go down the drain. Without a financial lifeline thrown out by you, our readers, Antiwar.com’s strenuous efforts to build a coalition transcending the outdated categories of “left” and “right” will fall by the wayside, a dream unfulfilled and discarded.
Every day I get letters and emails telling me how important is Antiwar.com’s mission, how indispensable my own work is, and I greatly appreciate these expressions of support. They provide a large portion of the emotional fuel I need in order to keep working, keep writing, and keep fighting for a more peaceful world and a rational foreign policy for America. Now, however, we here at Antiwar.com need more than mere words – we need you to take action. We need you to click here and make your donation now.
Antiwar.com has never been popular with the big supposedly “liberal” groups or “progressive” foundations that one might expect would be amenable to helping fund this web site. In fact, we’ve never gotten a penny from these people – and now that the Obama administration is in power, we can hardly expect them to come around. Indeed, all mention of Antiwar.com is banned from the leading “liberal” Democratic web site, DailyKos.com, whose “moderators” have undertaken a libelous campaign against us that rivals in its ferocity any similar effort by the neoconservative warmongers who inhabit the “right” side of the web.
And we’ve had nothing but a bizarre mix of fear and outright hostility from the big “libertarian” donors, who might be expected to be sympathetic to our cause: the so-called “Kochtopus,” the matrix of organizations connected to and funded by Charles and David Koch – which has received a lot of publicity of late – is openly hostile to Antiwar.com. Beginning shortly after the invasion of Iraq, a former Vice President of the Cato Institute began expending a lot of time and energy specializing in frothy-mouthed attacks on us, our personnel, and our editorial positions: he tirelessly insisted that Antiwar.com had called for the “death” of American soldiers in Iraq and openly accused us of sedition to anyone who would listen. Although he’s no longer with Cato, he and other alleged “libertarians” associated with the self-proclaimed “respectable” wing of the libertarian movement have continued these attacks relentlessly. When they banded together to smear Ron Paul, precisely because of his principled opposition to US imperialism, we responded by exposing their lies – and from that day forward we’ve been the recipient of ignorant and incredibly slimy attacks from the “respectables.” So be it.
Fear – fear of the US government – has also played an important part in the campaign against Antiwar.com, and it has badly hurt our fundraising. Let me tell you a story that illustrates this fear:
During the Bush years, a very wealthy libertarian entrepreneur – whose name I won’t mention, but you’d recognize it in a minute – approached us. He said he wanted to donate a considerable sum, and I had several meetings with him. Each time, he said he wanted to contribute, and, taking him at his word, I continued to meet with him – but after a while, I began to have my doubts. Was this guy just stringing me along?
Finally, at a meeting at a San Francisco coffee shop, I asked him pointblank: was he or was he not going to make a donation? He looked at me, with a very pained expression on his face, and told me, once again, that he would love to give us a substantial sum but was afraid to do so: he explained that his business made it necessary for him to deal with government regulators at every turn, and that he just couldn’t risk openly contributing to our coffers, for fear of government retaliation against him and his business interests. He explained that any contribution he made would have to be off the books, just our little secret, and he wanted to know: “Would you take cash?”
I sat there, astounded that anyone – let alone a libertarian – would confess to such craven cowardice. While I understood and sympathized with his fear of retribution by the Bush regime, I guess it’s just not in me to understand this kind of wussiness: how did he think he was going to get the government he so feared off his back if he didn’t stand up and fight? How did he imagine any progress toward human freedom would take place if the partisans of liberty and peace allowed themselves to be driven underground?
I sat there, shaking my head, and told him no, we couldn’t and wouldn’t take his fistfuls of cash. Aside from the borderline legality and ethically questionable practice of accepting a huge, unreported cash donation from him, I found the whole idea oddly insulting. This guy was talking as if we were some sort of untouchables, exiled pariahs whose activities, if not yet illegal, weren’t anything to be publicly identified with by any respectable American.
I don’t regret that decision – yes, even as broke and in danger of going under as we are today. I don’t regret it because that would-be donor’s craven attitude forced us to the conclusion that our future – if we were to have one – depends on relatively small contributions from ordinary people. People like you, who aren’t billionaires, or even millionaires, but just normal Americans (and many outside the US) who have had it up to here with the crazed foreign policy our rulers have embarked on since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. We vowed to avoid dependency on wealthy albeit eccentric and ultimately unreliable donors, and cultivate a real grassroots support network.
And that network grew and expanded over time. For all the years since, we’ve been building it, while working our butts off getting out the most comprehensive news and opinion site in the foreign policy field.
No, we aren’t perfect – but, given our lack of resources, we’re damn close.
I swear to God, if we don’t see a radical uptick in contributions by Thursday morning, I just don’t know if I’ll be able to bring myself to write another column, never mind another fundraising appeal.
I need some sign from you, our readers, that you care about the fate of this site and this column. I can go without that kind of acknowledgment for some time, but at some point – and we’ve reached that point – we have to start paying the bills. And that time is now. Our creditors can be kept at bay only so long.
I realize, of course, that it isn’t just Antiwar.com that is having a hard time of it these days. The economy is bad and getting worse; people are out of work, and, in some cases, out of hope. The irony is that Antiwar.com’s continued existence is evidence that hope is still alive – and that underscores the absolute necessity of keeping Antiwar.com alive.
Believe me, I’d much rather be writing about the amazing events we’re witnessing in the Middle East. In the face of all the nonsense about how the Muslim Brotherhood is behind all the turmoil, and the unreasonable fears being stoked even by some who fancy themselves “anti-interventionists,” I would greatly prefer not hitting you on the head with this frantic appeal – but, again, I don’t have any choice. That’s because the survival of Antiwar.com is at stake.
If you want to see Antiwar.com – and particularly if you want to see this column and my writing continue – please make your completely tax-deductible contribution today – right now, before you forget. Because the future of a peace movement that goes beyond left and right is at stake.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
I’ll be appearing on Judge Andrew Napolitano’s Freedom Watch, on the Fox Business Channel, on Wednesday night. Check your local listings for the time the show airs.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Common Fallacies About
Anti-Interventionism – February 21st, 2012 - The Big One Cometh – February 19th, 2012
- Voting Out the War Party? – February 16th, 2012
- The Pentagon’s Lie Machine – February 14th, 2012
- What Now? – February 12th, 2012





jconsley
February 15th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
AntiWar has been a unique site on the internet — most informative. The writers such as Phil Giraldi, Paul Craig Roberts, Pat Buchanan, and many others of differing views provide a spectrum seldom found at one comprehensive site. However, the editing policies of AntiWar have kept many from donating. Some comments critical of Israeli policies, or indeed just mentioning that as an American citizen one resents being taxed to pay for Israeli actions against the Palestinians, are consistently rejected by your editorial "board". Furthermore, there has been a noted decrease in responses from your readers; consequently, a decrease in contributions. Make it easy for readers to comment, and the readers will find it easy to contribute to a site with which they are involved. Review your editorial board's policies.
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Justin Raimondo
February 15th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
Say what? Anyone who seriously suggests we've been soft on Israeli government policies has got to be kidding. Maybe you're going to another web site that you mistakenly THINK is Antiwar.com. Or — my own guess –is that you've found the Bizarro Antiwar.com, which is edited by Norman Podhoretz, Alan Dershowitz, and the Rev. John Hagee…..
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 16th, 2011 at 1:09 am
Given the role Zionists have played in the wars in the former Yugoslavia, and given my Serbian origins, I think I hardly can be labelled as pro-Israeli. Yet, I find that some comments here denote an obsessiveness with Israel that sometimes, under the guise of anti-Zionism, flirts dangerously with anti-Semitism.
As a regular reader, I haven't noticed any pro-Israeli bias in the articles here, but I have noticed an effort to avoid the pitfall of amalgamating "Jew" and "Zionist". And I think it is an understandable effort given the virulence of the smear attacks against Antiwar.
In fact, here in France, when I have suggested to acquaintances to give a glance to this site, I have been more than once answered that Antiwar was run by anti-Semitic conspiracy theories loving lunatics. That gives you an idea of how far the smears reach.
I understand that Americans are frustrated by their inability to compel their government to stop wasting their taxpayers' money on foreign adventures that bring them nothing good. But then, how many people would continue visiting this site if all the readers' comments revolved around Israel?
And you'll admit that a tax deductible donation you make to Antiwar, reduces the amount of money you have to pay to your government, and by consequence to Israel.
Bodkin
February 16th, 2011 at 4:17 am
This is one time when I'm completely in agreement with Raimondo. This site is a CORNUCOPIA of anti-Israel sentiment. Anybody who claims otherwise is either lying or profoundly illiterate.
The anti-Israel crowd is so rabid that even if 0.000001% of their obsessively critical comments are censored, they throw a hissy fit. Unbelievable!
To jconsley: April Fool's Day isn't for another month and a half.
To Raimondo: The closer your site resembles Der Sturmer, the more donations you'll receive. In light of your much-trumpeted integrity, will that be the business model you'll follow from now on, just to attract some extra coin? It worked in the '30's! Bad economic times breed such sentiments. Will you capitalize on the opportunity? Is the Pope Catholic?
Montaigne
February 16th, 2011 at 4:53 am
I close my eyes and donate a little today. But why don't you commence around the monthly paydays? Say, next time by the end of April. Just a suggestion.
Ground_Control
February 16th, 2011 at 5:21 am
In my humble opinion Justin, you lose credibility when you perpetuate myths associated with the "official" 911 conspiracy theory. And also, giving intelligence asset Julian Assange any credibility doesn't help either. To this day, there is still not one photograph of the 12 (19-7 alive) hi-jackers boarding those planes.
@undertakerpress
February 16th, 2011 at 5:51 am
Well, first since you did away with Amazon and Paypal, you are going to have a harder time raising money. I didn't mind shopping online to help out. And Paypal makes things easier.
Second, how much money does it take to run this page? Maybe you need a cheaper server. I run a few websites and have even book two of my books online for free and have never broke even. I didn't think that was the point.
Bodkin
February 16th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Raimondo, it's posters like Ground_Control and jconsley who illustrate why it's hard for you to attract donations. They expect you to fall in line with their take on reality. No deviations allowed!
These folks illustrate a truism about our times: People are looking for AFFIRMATION, not INFORMATION. People want their dearly held beliefs validated, not questioned. Showing more than one side of an issue (i.e. the crowd-pleasing side) is strictly forbidden.
We the people speak with one voice:
"Tell us what we want to hear, or kiss our donations goodbye!"
Get with the program, Raimondo!
@undertakerpress
February 16th, 2011 at 5:53 am
Oh, I see you use Paypal. I thought you dropped them like you dropped Amazon.
Montaigne
February 16th, 2011 at 6:25 am
I guess, Justin thinks like myself: he does not KNOW for certain, what happened and thus does not claim to know. Isn't that an honest approach to writing about reality? My own BELIEF is that someone with government connections added the necessary spectacular happenings to some petty terrorists. And of course removed any evidence. My only dount is the fact, that none of a necessary rather large group of conspirants have uttered som public confessions (am I right?) as yet.
bozh
February 16th, 2011 at 7:25 am
justin:
"So why do I feel as though we are still mired in the dark days that followed the September 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon? Why do I fear for the future of Antiwar.com?"
i, too, expect, only worsening for most 'aliens' and domestics in u.s.
history clearly teaches: those people [sacerdotal and 'noble' classes] who r addicted to a life of privilege, greater security than for most people, sybaritic way of living, etcetc., never have given up their addictions even tho peasants-other serfs had often risen up against them over millennia and in many regions of the world.
nevertheless, people suggest we consider ownership of people by 'nobility' and novo riche cld be considered a natural event just like cancer, flu, etc., and then we seek cure for cancer and the disease of owning people.
as of necessary-desirable-absolute certain truth [aristotle may have invented this notion] there has to be a cure for people addicted to a life of privilege-etc.
which, of course, causes warfare, deceit, lying, maleducating, disinforming, waste of people and resources, pollution, ever 'better' killing metals, usurpation of god-religion-fairness, etcetc. tnx
Montaigne
February 16th, 2011 at 7:26 am
I see that any approving comments are being killed (downgraded) quickly by some sort of clique or sect, I guess. But at least my contribution has been confirmed by Google.
Leads me to speculate, if some nutheads like perhaps myself, are the most busy participants on some deviate website like http://www.antiwar.com. Not that I find it deviates from sense and reason at all. But I know perfectly well, that my opinions on the war on terror etc. are NOT mainstream.
In fact, isn't it a little scary to find yourself a lone human in a world of zombies and vampires? (Political leaders and brain-dead zombies)
bozh
February 16th, 2011 at 7:34 am
as far as i know, antiwar and almost all posters r not soft on israel. i go as far as to deny israel's right to exist as a 'jewish' state or any israel that does not grant pal'ns their basic rights and withdraws from occupied WB and gaza.tnx
Tom L
February 16th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Donated. There was money left at the end of this pay period. A near miracle. Seemed like the right thing to do.
Hope it helps, Justin.
Ta,
keltrava
February 16th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Having a blank advertisement on the front page is hardly going to help.
Or is that intentional?
bozh
February 16th, 2011 at 7:57 am
how about allowing a croat, bosniak, albanian fascist [or better yet an egalitarian; serb also] to post pieces on antiwar instead solely a fascist-warmonger serb like nebojsha?
i cannot support financially antiwar as long as it employs a prowar writer.
in add'n, the few times a commented on other than justin's and nebojsha's pieces, my comments do not ever appear.
in contrast to antiwar, truthdig had not yet ever blocked or erased even one of my numerous posts even tho the site is pro-Democratic as well as most of the posters.
however, even antiwar does not, as far as i had been able to find out, object to u.s. wars on a panhuman principle: such as that no land has the right to attack another under no known circumstance; which wld occlude collective punishment.
but even if a new event wld arise and which entire world wld deem a casus belli, collective punishment must be avoided.
we simply go after the perps! tnx
Pierre
February 16th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Donated $100. Keep up the good fight Justin.
RobertB
February 16th, 2011 at 8:32 am
I am very troubled by the fact that we have mega-millionaires and even multi-billionaires in America who could easily contribute a few hundred thousand a year to maintain this site, keeping in mind that most US media is the equivalent of Pravda or Tass in the old Soviet Union days; simply a propaganda machine for the System. These people choose not to contribute what would be to them pocket change.
Rather than sell yourself to AOL, how about Fox? Your 'controversy indicator' would definitely take a leap, and as Hollywood used(?) to say, 'there's no such thing as bad publicity'. Relentless attack by the MM and probably the government may be stressful, but as most thinking people would be aware, that's a good thing, and best of all, you wouldn't have to show a profit.
I am pleased to regularly make a contribution consistent with my limited means, and were I one of those with the big bucks, you would have one-stop-shopping for your needs…I dont' agree with your views 100%, but 98% is close enough and it's important to expose the public to your, and your associates', knowledge, research and opinions.
cheers, and say hello to Rupert and Wendi for me,
Robert
RobertB
February 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am
'(a) certain (type of) truth' was probably invented by Bill Clinton, with Hillary's help.
RobertB
February 16th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Rather than sell yourself to AOL, how about Fox?
For those scratching their heads…
…All in the spirit of Archimedes' dos moi pou sto kai kino ten gen of course! Fox could use a little education, and they do claim to be objective…
Jerry
February 16th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Why not accept cash? Why do you demand that your supporters expose their identity to the US government?
Jaime
February 16th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I will do it today or tomorrow. Congrats from Peru for a job well done.
AngelaKeaton
February 16th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
We have an alternative to Pay Pal also known as Xipwired. Call 323-512-7095 for more information.
AngelaKeaton
February 16th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Actually, if you would rather have your pledge be taken from your credit card at a specific time, please let me know and I can set that.
Peace,
Angela
323-512-7095
Riley
February 16th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
What is your opinion of alternet.org? Does it boycott antiwar.com? I see you have linked stories to it, but not vice-versa. I have read and supported antiwar.com for some years, but now also rely on alternet.org, partly because it covers other issues as well.
Generalissimo X
February 16th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
frankly you should have taken the cash just so you don't have to come begging liking jerry lewis every quarter. least he got drunk dean and sammy to show up…until they died. at the very least you could put on a tux and start crying in the first antiwar.com video like jerry. i'm sure the bucks would be flying in then…i gave 50 bucks a few years back which i was happy to do and all i get is my comments blocked half the time, 100% of the time by ditz. nice that and certainly helps my motivation to donate again. and your operation budget is pretty big unless you're paying salaries. server space and upkeep isn't close to half that number.
if you really need the cash, why not sell subsriptions to content similar to counterpunch.org. they have one pledge drive a year and the rest apparently is funded by subscriptions. what about sponsors for the radio broadcasts as a revenue stream? perhaps some more creative ideas and/or some minimal investment might yield some highly needed revenue streams. if all else fails i'd pay some hooligan to mug sean hannity..he's freakin loaded and a world class a-hole to boot.
Ike Hall
February 16th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Donated $100. The posters on this particular article should put up or shut up.
AngelaKeaton
February 16th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Thanks. It's easier to be accountable to the readers when we keep the funding on the ground.
AngelaKeaton
February 16th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
I read it. Foreign policy is not their primary issue. They cover a wide range.
juvanya
February 16th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Alternet is sketchy. I would hold their articles with a few grains of salt.
juvanya
February 16th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
I guess I could spare a few bucks once I get back into the solid black. Of course, I dont know if I should donate to a site that believes Arab Fascist Imperialist propaganda…
I do love your other work tho.
MvGuy
February 16th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Jerry…. You can mail a money order to 1017 El Camino Real #306 Redwood City CA 94063 Buy it at the convenience store and rop it in a box as I do… and do it totally anonymously……. If the gov starts trying to find such contributions, it will waste so many man hours, they will have no one for the wars..!!
Mechanized
February 16th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Agreed Justin. Ironically enough, there are individuals I've conversed with that view AntiWar.com as anti-Semitic since Israel is not viewed as an almost sanctified state. It reminds one of accusations that Ron Paul is a hard-rightest while some of the evangelicals consider him a "Leftist-in-disguise." Strange indeed.
Justin Raimondo
February 16th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Heroic!
Justin Raimondo
February 16th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Thank you so much! It means a lot.
Sam
February 16th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Justin, you Glen and Philips Weiß do a fantastic job.We need antiwar.com.
MvGuy
February 16th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I submitted a link to antiwar.com two days ago… It is a story about Asif Siddiqui… and a tape that purports to show her story is true and the Gov's is fake… Plus there is a recent Wikileaks revelation in this story too… "The Aafia Siddiqui case: A new turn as lawyers release explosive, secretly recorded tape" I even said PLEASE post this article, I feel so distressed at what happened to Asif Siddiqui………. Did the U.S. military kill one of her children to get her in an compliant mood..??? It's here: http://www.cageprisoners.com/our-work/opinion-edi…
Now Why O Why didn't antiwar.com link that article…. and just as they ask for money….go figure!
They seldom [never??] link my submissions… O.K. O.K., it's not CNN but the woman who wrote the article: "Victoria Brittain is a former associate foreign editor of the Guardian, and a Patron of Cageprisoners. Her books include Hidden Lives, Hidden Deaths and Death of Dignity. She has spent much of her working life in Asia, Africa and the Middle East." Not substantial ENOUGH..??
Is there something I am missing..?? Isn't this place a clearing house for what the MSN fails to report among other things…??? Especially the dirty blooded laundry of war and conquest….the hidden horrors and costs like dead babies and ruined lives…!!! Maybe it isn't sufficiently sophisticated.
Why…Why…Why..
And then there is Rick Rozoff….a tireless crusader for more egalitarian relations amongst nations. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stopnato/ He is almost as prolific as Justin Raimondo…. I did see one of his pieces here but the ones I submitted never saw the screen…. Some of Ricks articles are dynamite.. E.G ."New War Rumors: U.S. Plans To Seize Pakistan’s Nuclear Arsenal" http://rickrozoff.wordpress.com/2010/10/15/new-wa… ………Sadly, this [I don't believe] was not worthy of here… Too lurid..?? Too much of "a neocon wet dream"…??? OOO I forgot Jeff Huber….. We don't see him much anymore here…
I did see someone comment he was persona non grata currently…. Is that true I wonder…. Check out the last article of his at antiwar.com http://original.antiwar.com/huber/2010/11/01/80-b… Be sure to read it……. It is not very kind to the CIA…. Cheers
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 17th, 2011 at 1:08 am
Godwin's law verified once again. Please, explain us the similitude between "Der Stürmer", the Nazi version of today's British "Sun" and an anti-interventionist site with quite a few very respectable contributors, some of them having even worked for the US govt. Now, If you had made the comparison with the "Völkischer Beobachter"… But then, all you are interested in is smear.
Rob
February 17th, 2011 at 2:01 am
I love you guys, you can have my money anytime. Donated this morning.
Bodkin
February 17th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Read carefully. I didn’t say it’s equivalent to Der Sturmer. I said that if it moves in that direction it’s sure to please.
It seems obvious from many of the comments posted here that the more brazenly hostile this site becomes to Jews, the more it will satisfy the readers.
As long as this site is so dedicated to their own brand of “smear”, yes, I will remain “interested in” condemning them for it. I see no-one else coming here to point out the ancient hatred they’re fueling, the ugly stereotypes they’re reinforcing, and the bigots they’re empoweri
Strider55
February 17th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Glad to see donations picking up (past $15K now).
Justin, you need to cut that former potential donor some slack. Just the other day you linked to this article about federal thuggery during the Clinton regime; no doubt it's orders of magnitude worse today. "MvGuy" has a point — soon anonymous money orders may be the only way to safely donate.
You also have a fiduciary duty to us contributors to be as frugal as possible. Redwood City is in the ultra-high-rent district, and it will only get worse as "Gov. Moonbeam" and his cronies go trolling for every last cent of loot they can grab. Antiwar.com needs to exit the People's Republic of Californicate ASAP. Fortunately alternatives are nearby. Nevada and Washington have no income tax; Oregon has no sales tax. You could have the best of both worlds by locating in Washington and shopping in Oregon. So doing would likely reduce your costs (and donation goals) by 20% or more. Time to call 800-468-4285 (that's the number for U-Haul).
Jerry
February 17th, 2011 at 10:21 am
I'm not personally trying to hide, but my point is, it bothers me that Raimondo is discouraging anonymous contributions. Some people do go to great lengths to protect their privacy and to act in secret, and Justin says he "understood and sympathized" with the potential donor's concerns. What exactly is "borderline illegal" or "unethical" about preserving a donor's privacy?
I've decided to chip in $100 but I'm doing it under protest: I object to Justin's attitude about financial privacy as expressed in this article, as well as his long-standing contempt for 9/11 truth.
B Fikes
February 17th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
It's a joke that you libertarians think that the powers that be would ever "go after you". You guys are the "useful idiots" for the powerful and moneyed, providing them intellectual cover for their strip mining of the country.
Don't get me wrong, they'll go after you eventually, but only after all the leftists and liberals are dead.
Robert Brager
February 17th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
"You guys are the "useful idiots" for the powerful and moneyed, providing them intellectual cover for their strip mining of the country."
Libertarians favor dismantling the centralization of power. Liberals believe in centralizing power and expanding its scope.
Who's the "useful idiot"?
B Fikes
February 17th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
"Who's the 'useful idiot'?"
You. Government can be used to positive ends. It can protect the property of the public from criminals. It can prevent the weak from being preyed on by the strong. It can build and maintain a system of laws that make civilized commerce practical. That's why the "founding fathers" established a republican government, instead of simply declaring anarchy.
Corporate power, however, is only used towards a single end – enriching the shareholders at the expense of everyone else. If you "dismantle" the state, there will then be no constraints whatsoever on the expression of that corporate power. Anything will be fair game towards the end of maximizing profits. Stealing, killing, slavery, why not? No lousy government cramping our Randian supermen!
Furthermore, without the state, there's nothing stopping pissed off victims of corporations from shooting rockets into their buildings. Sure, the corporations could then go out and form a private army, but how would they be any different than government? Oh yeah, then they wouldn't even have a thin veneer of accountability to the public.
There's a reason Ayn Rand's philosophy books are kept in the "fiction" section.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 17th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Bad faith vs bad faith, I could answer you that reducing this site to Justin's blog and links to Greenwald's on Salon reveals not a random but an Ad Nauseam centrist liberal.
But let's examine your arguments.
First, as a former press correspondent, I doubt you are acquainted with the amount of work it takes to collect relevant information, especially in our information age. What is served you on a platter is not necessarily edible. When it comes to information, symptoms may appear very long after the ingestion. Do you imagine the amount of work it takes to read all those articles and to present you with links to the most neutral looking ones? The egregious ones (not he most egregious ones) usually end up in the blog. How much man*hours are invested in that?
Second, please don't compare with DailyKos, or for that matter CommonDreams or Alternet. I first heard of those sites through this one. Their purposes are different. Which one of them provides such a wide spectrum of information? And for that matter, there is a perfectly rational explanation why they struggle less when it comes to financing, see my "Last" argument for it.
Third, about comments. I have had several of my comments deleted. Worse, I have contacted the moderators to ask them delete some comments I've made because, after a second thought, and looking at them objectively, I deemed them inappropriate by my own standards. That they censor rants doesn't shock me.That DailyKos doesn't does. I also have had my comments withheld for very long because I had the bad idea to post them while it was sleeping or lunch time in CA. Time difference. Moderators are doing their job and they need to sleep and eat too.
Last, have you ever heard of "Gleichschaltung"? I love this site because from its inception, it has been "Gegen die Gleichschaltung"?
Now, if you are incapable of opening your mind, it's a pity not only for you but for all your like-minded kin. Feel free to check, but the three sites I quoted above became known abroad only thanks to this one.
MvGuy
February 17th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
HTF does Strider get three thumbs down for his civil, measured comment above…??? He seems to know the area… There can be contrary opinions about the pluses and minuses of high VS low rent addresses. I remember visiting Dana Beal at No. 9 Bleeker back in the 70s or 80s…..in the Yippie hearquarters filled with young beautiful "volunteers".. and one could occasionally find recreational substances available also.. There were three "bums" out in front of the storefront….but these "bums" were drinking Manischewitz Kosher wine out of paper cups…..and further examination betrayed shoes too stylish and shinny for the derelicts in the neighborhood 80 feet from the Bowery. It tipped us off we were being watched by New York State or The Feds…….. The Yippie museum now is there…and Dana Beal and crew too….but there are way fewer of many former things..
P.S.Money orders are the last frontier of anonymous financial transactions……
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 17th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
I could begin with a fallacy: do you consider the Jews who have created this site and who are contributing to it to be self-hating Jews?
Then, I could point to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
Pay attention to the "Informal fallacies" and check if your argumentation bears any resemblance with any of them. If you don't see it by yourself, then I'll help you.
And I abhor equally the readers who come here to spill their frustration, but the folks here are truly American and they are bound to the First Amendment so they have to strike a balance between people like you and people like those you denounce.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 17th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Btw, I have already replied to your comment and I don't know if it will eventually get published. But I used the J word twice. And I think that the publishing of your reply got delayed too because of the use of the same word. They are sensitive enough to understand that the subject is a fuse that once ignited can lead to blow a lot of things. Now, do you still think they're anti J?
Silver Scale
February 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Why in god's name did you refuse that major donation just because it was cash? Because it was marginally morally "tainted"? Jesus take me now, I have never heard anything like this. I would have accepted it in a heartbeat. You don't explain why it was somehow kind of "illegal" to receive a cash donation. Mr. Megabucks just had to go to the bank, take some cash out, and hand it to you. People do this all the time. Why would it be somehow dangerous or cowardly?
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 17th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
If I had been in Justin's place, I would have refused it too. Yes, because it was morally tainted. Even if I knew that I'd have to seek refuge under a bridge afterwards.
Ethics vs. utilitarianism.
Bodkin
February 17th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
My posts are censored and delayed, no matter what I write. I'm on a list.
FYI, I wrote the J word with an asterisk replacing the "e", but when it was finally published, it was written in full. This might represent a change in the site's policy.
Whether or not the creators are of J descent, or whether they're careful to censor the J word, that doesn't negate at all the sentiments they're fostering, or the fact that they're knowingly attracting a certain element of society, to the detriment of their reputation. I can't explain why certain J's possess the motivations they do; it might not be that they're self-hating. Personally, I don't care what the reasons are. I know what I see, and I judge the site accordingly.
My harsh words are intended for bigots with an agenda, wherever they come from, whatever their reasons are. If people who read my posts don't fit that description, they shouldn't take my comments to heart. They're not the target.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 17th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Don't get that paranoid. Ever heard of regular expressions? The worst replacements imaginable for a letter are a '*' and a '?'. I suppose they didn't program their filter by themselves. I once programmed a thing that would have, with adequately defined parameters, sent most of the people here crying mummy for the 1st before a tribunal.
Silver Scale
February 17th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
WHY was it morally tainted, Vojkan, Justin & everybody? Wars aren't tea parties. Where is the immorality in trying to stop them?
Vojkan Milosavljevic
February 17th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
First, I am honoured that you put me in the same bag as Justin. For, I am not personally acquainted with him.
As for the cash, just imagine the smear campaign. Do you think the other side sleeps? Cash, who corrupted you to run the articles you publish? We want to know the origin of that money. How do you justify it?
Mathematically speaking:
Small cash~=small service.
Big cash=corruption!
Can you try to stop a war if you're labelled a corrupt traitor?
AngelaKeaton
February 18th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Thanks "MvGuy." I don't need to know who you are. Just knowing you are against mass murder is enough. The money orders are fine.
Now the feds, however, are another matter but you and I don't have basic privacy rights they are bound to respect.
Random Liberal
February 18th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Just because you heard of those sites first through this one doesn't mean that everyone else has. Antiwar has a great history, though. I remember reading Justin's first column about angry Serbs chasing western news reporters, back in the 90's. He called it "wartime diary" or something like that. It was good stuff. This is the internet, though. You've gotta be worthwhile right now if you want those eyeballs.
I only mentioned dailykos because it was mentioned in the article with the tone that "we don't censor your free speech like those sneaky liberals at dailykos do!" Maybe I misinterpreted, however. To be brutally honest, I skimmed the article because if you've read one Justin begs for money article, you've read them all. Like I said, it seems there's always one on the front page every time I visit, these days.
Checking the 10 or so sites that antiwar always links to for new articles and copy-pasting links to the best ones doesn't take 10s of thousands of dollars, every quarter, sorry. Also, Greenwald isn't a liberal. In the current political climate, it is certainly forgivable to assume that everyone that uses big words is a liberal, though!
AngelaKeaton
February 18th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Strange. Good for CommonDreams though we usually do about 70K in 14 days. Odd, I have extensive donor records yet there is no lemurdue77@gmail.com in any of them.
How odd. Strange. Weird, really. Or not.
Miles Smoljo
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:08 am
I'm going to make a donation to Antiwar.com as I do during most quarterly funding drives, but I'm also going to voice the same concern I've noted before: this organization is the only non-profit I've seen, both online and offline, that has a funding drive EVERY QUARTER. All other non-profits I'm familiar with, from small one-man websites to enterprise-level charities like the United Way, have funding drives one a year, usually during a one-month period. I'd suggest Antiwar.com strongly consider changing to the annual funding drive standard. Asking for money four times a year feels to me like you're going to the well too often, and this particular well is especially prone to drying out during tough economic times. That said, I still support your mission and am grateful for the good work you do.
Chris
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
I would so give you guys money if you were not so cowardly on the topic of Israels role in 9/11(Zakheim,Silverstein,Lowy,Hauer,Suter etc.). I read Justins book on Israel and 9/11 and it left out tons of incriminating info. Sorry, I cant donate a dime to self censoring sites.