Getting Beyond ‘Left’ and ‘Right’
Part One: A deal with the devil
Editorial note: What follows is the transcript of a speech given in Danbury, Conn., and Boston, Mass., under the auspices of the Ridgefield Liberty Forum and the Boston chapter of ComeHomeAmerica.org, respectively.
We’ve just had an election in which no mention was made of the two wars we are now fighting. Now that may seem extremely odd to you, but when you think about it, it makes perfect “sense.”
After all, we only have two parties in this country, and one of them – the Democrats – is not too eager to remind voters that we’re waist deep in Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s because their leader, our President, who rode into power on the basis of his alleged antiwar credentials, is invested in those wars: he’s embraced the War Party, and they’re going along for the ride. After all, who cares – it’s just a bunch of foreigners getting killed, and a few of our professional soldiers. Nothing to get too excited about.
As for the Republicans – well, what can we say about them? They’re the ones who got us into these wars in the first place, and they don’t want to remind voters of that. They don’t want to remind us that they’ve spent three trillion – that’s trillion, with a “T” – of our tax dollars on just one of these wars, the one in Iraq. They don’t want to remind voters what a horrible waste [.pdf] it all is, how it’s endangered us rather than made us safer, and how their friends and supporters have profited from the wars while the rest of us have paid in blood and treasure.
So of course they aren’t talking about the wars, they don’t want to bring up the subject, except for a lot of malarkey about how we should “support the troops.” And of course we don’t expect the Republicans to criticize the wars, because war is their favorite pastime. They worship at the altar of Ares, the war god, and their leaders are his high priests. But not all of them: some have a different view – but we’ll get to that later.
For now, let’s talk about the left, and the long loud silence that has been their response to Obama’s wars. Of course, we all remember the antiwar movement of the Bush years. George W. Bush – he was the perfect hate object, wasn’t he? Stupid, narrow, spoiled scion of aristocratic blue-bloods, surrounded by a coterie of rather sinister-looking advisers and retainers, and seemingly dominated by the most sinister of them all: Dick Cheney. It was all so easy! Easy to hate, easy to get the people into the streets, easy to bring out all the familiar slogans and run them up the flagpole.
Then, suddenly, it all – stopped. No more demonstrations. No more angry op-ed pieces in the New York Times. No more congressional resolutions put forward by the so-called antiwar caucus in the House of Representatives.
Why is that?
Well, let’s play detective and look at the evidence. If we go to the web site of United for Peace and Justice, the main peace organization, we can dig up an article hailing the election of Barack Obama as a great progressive victory, and I quote:
“What a moment! On November 4th, the voters of this country came out in massive numbers to cast their votes for change. The election of Barack Obama was the greatest repudiation of the Bush administration’s policies we have seen in these long years of struggle, and what a relief it was.”
The gushing doesn’t end there: the piece goes on for paragraphs praising the wisdom of the Great Leader, and concluding with a quote from his victory speech. They then say that the whole struggle for peace has to be adapted to this “new context.”
What that adaptation turned into was a complete capitulation. As Obama escalated the war, and inched into Pakistan, United for Justice and Peace issued a pamphlet devoted to what it called “solidarity with Afghanistan,” proposing a massive “reparations” program – billions in American “aid,” albeit “demilitarized,” subordinating the call for ending the occupation to this massive international welfare scheme. In effect, they endorsed the “nation-building” aspect of the Obama administration’s counterinsurgency strategy, knowing full well that it implied support for the military operation – the former being dependent on the success of the latter.
Less than a year after President Obama took office, United for Peace and Justice essentially dissolved, maintaining only an email list – no more conferences, no more marches, no more activism to end the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. After organizing for eight years against “Bush’s war,” putting on substantial demonstrations, holding several national conferences, and building up a network of local groups, United for Justice and Peace threw in the towel. After all, the Messiah had arrived, and Obama’s wars weren’t Bush’s wars. It was the quickest, most ignominious retreat in the history of political activism.
The left has made a bargain, with the Democratic Party, and the powers that be. They’ll shut up about the wars, if only they can get the domestic programs – the government spending, the regulations, the social programs – that they want. The public employee unions don’t care about someone being killed by a drone in far-off Pakistan – they just want their pensions guaranteed. The civil rights groups just want to push through their domestic agenda. The gay groups just want to be able to join the armed forces. So all these groups, which the left imagines are their natural constituency, don’t dare speak out against the war, they don’t bite the hand that feeds them – they go along to get along.
And so the war goes on.
Oh, of course, they don’t say that: they don’t acknowledge that they’ve made a deal with the devil. After all, people have to live with themselves. They have to believe that they’re moral, they aren’t monsters, they’re not selfish: so they come up with a rationale, a way to mask their indifference and their servitude to the status quo. Let me give you an example.
In the wake of the collapse of United for Peace and Justice, there has been one attempt to fill the gap. A “united national antiwar conference” was held a couple of months ago in Albany, New York, initiated by a group calling itself the “National Assembly to End Wars and Occupations,” a group identified with Socialist Action, a small Trotskyist organization. The speakers line-up reads like a who’s who of the far left: Noam Chomsky was one of the keynote speakers, and he gave his usual analysis of war as a capitalist plot, and he also made a point of linking the antiwar perspective to the Palestine issue, a proposal that has proved remarkably divisive in the past. The other keynoter was South Carolina AFL-CIO President Donna DeWitt, who made the dubious case for tying in the antiwar issue to every left-wing cause under the sun, and then some. She ended her spiel with a plug for the October 25th Democratic Party get out the vote mobilization in Washington, D.C.
Among the 700-plus who registered for this conference, not a single conservative or even a moderate could be found. It was yet another case of the left talking to itself, and earnestly passing all sorts of resolutions and declarations of “solidarity” that won’t have the slightest effect on external reality. There were also numerous workshops and lectures, and one very interesting debate, entitled: “The Rise of Right Wing Populism and the Tea Party: Do We Need a Right-Left Coalition?”
Right then and there, from the very title of the “debate,” we see the arrogance and sectarianism coming right out in the open, utterly unashamed. Do we really need to debate whether the antiwar movement needs more allies? Why is this even an issue? The antiwar movement, down in the doldrums as it is, needs all the allies it can get – and anyone who questions this elementary proposition is no friend of the anti-interventionist cause.
In any case, arguing in the affirmative was Kevin Zeese, the director of Voters for Peace, who gave a clear and cogent case for opening up the antiwar movement to anyone who agrees with its basic precepts – US out of Iraq and Afghanistan. He pointed out the divisions among conservatives on the foreign policy question, and asked why not take advantage of these divisions to foster the growth and development of the movement for peace? A good question, which the left-sectarians at the conference didn’t bother answering.
Instead, the speakers opposed to the proposition of an alliance with libertarians went out their way to insult and smear anti-interventionists, such as myself, who aren’t socialists, or so-called progressives. The most offensive was Glen Ford, of the “Black Agenda,” who launched into a frothy-mouthed tirade against the tea partiers and indeed anyone to the right of the Democratic Party as being a “white nationalist.” He gave no evidence for this serious charge: he simply assumed its truth, and seemed to be making the argument from authority. You really ought to go on YouTube and look up his talk: it’s remarkable for its profound ignorance, and offensiveness. If we ally with libertarians, he argued, no black person will join us. The tea partiers, he said, are just a bunch of old white racists. That he said this to an audience that was almost exclusively white, and mainly over the age of 50, didn’t phase him one bit.
The other speaker in opposition was Chris Gauvreau, a member of Socialist Action and a prominent figure in the National Assembly Against Wars and Occupations, which is basically a Socialist Action front group. Her spiel was a classic example of left-sectarianism in the service of blatant opportunism. She explicitly attacked libertarian Ron Paul, saying he “only wants to end war abroad to make war on working people at home,” a phrase that conjures visions of Ron Paul stormtroopers marauding through the country, cutting down everyone in their path. And this is what she honestly believes, because in her speech she went on to say that Europe, too, is experiencing a right-wing populist upheaval, and she went on to mention explicitly racist and fascist groups, like the British National Party – as if these groups had anything to do with Ron Paul or libertarianism. Indeed, the British National Party, a sorry amalgam of skinheads and old style neo-Nazis, is as much opposed to capitalism as any Trotskyite. Ms. Gauvreau then went on to state that “these people” – meaning people like me – “ are an existential threat to our ability to organize working people in this country.” You know, just like the Nazis.
This is the kind of “argument” made by those who really have no argument to make: it is a smear, pure and simple. The idea that libertarians are the vanguard of some new fascist movement is simply too absurd to even refute. Ron Paul has been up there in Washington voting against the PATRIOT Act, the war budgets, and all the rest, far more consistently than anyone – and has certainly been more of a voice against our foreign policy of global intervention than any single member of Congress. For this he gets smeared as a fascist? Listening to Chris Gauvreau and Glen Ford, one may as well be reading the Weekly Standard and The New Republic – both of which have been eager participants in the campaign to smear Ron Paul.
It’s almost comical, if you like your humor on the dark side. Chris Gauvreau derided the tea partiers as being a small minority of no possible consequence. Well, we’ve had an election in which the tea partiers showed that this is very far from the case: after toppling the Republican establishment, they went on to win elections across the country.
These people, many of them, are ordinary working class folks: they aren’t rich. They aren’t plutocrats. Nor is their movement the pawn of powerful billionaires working behind the scenes, as the mainstream media would have us believe. They are people who are quite simply fed up with government, and all its works, and one of those works is war.
Now I don’t believe the majority of tea partiers are aware of the connections between big government and the empire. Outside of Ron Paul’s sizable contingent of admirers, most of the tea partiers are completely focused on domestic spending, and foreign policy is something they know very little about so it is outside of their purview. But why not reach out to these people with the antiwar message? Why not make the argument that if you want smaller government, you can’t be invested in maintaining an empire? Why not point out to them that we spend more on the military than all other nations of the world combined?
The aim of the antiwar movement should be to reach out to and convince the American people in their majority, and after our recent elections I don’t think there’s any question that Americans in their majority are quite conservative. To not try to convince them, in their own terms, that our current foreign policy is dangerous and counterproductive would be, in my estimation, a crime. A moral crime. Because it is all well and good to get up on a soapbox and spew left-sounding rhetoric, but to know that people are actually dying – innocent people – in a faraway land even as you speak – that should give pause to the most uncompromising Trotskyite ideologue. That should give pause to anyone who wants to narrow the focus of the antiwar movement any more than it is already narrowed. That should make one think twice before rejecting any possible allies in an effort to stop the killing.
It’s interesting that the sectarianism of groups like Socialist Action and others is really just opportunism standing in fear of itself. Because if you look at what their actual concrete proposals for action consist of, it’s clear that they just want to be water boys for the Democratic Party.
After all the grandstanding, the left-sounding speeches, and the self-righteous denunciations of any to the right of Jesse Jackson, the Albany conference decided that their next big strategic move would be to build the September Washington DC demonstration called by the unions and fulsomely supported by the Democratic Party bigwigs. The event was organized for and by the Democrats, as an answer to the Glenn Beck rally, and designed to energize people to get out and vote for Democratic Party candidates. The rally featured no antiwar speakers, and the so-called antiwar contingent was practically invisible. And that’s how the union leaders and the Democratic Party politicians behind the rally wanted it: after all, they weren’t going to go up against a war that is being fought by a Democratic commander-in-chief.
Now that Bush’s wars are Obama’s wars, the antiwar left is silent. Oh, they still maintain they oppose the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, but that’s only in theory. In practice, they seek to subordinate the antiwar issue to the long litany of progressive causes. Their so-called “strategy” is to channel antiwar activism into building whatever rally or candidate the union bosses are sponsoring that day.
What galls me most of all is the lack of urgency, the complacency with which these self-proclaimed leaders of the antiwar movement approach the question of how to stop the US war machine. I find it galling that people who are so quick to accuse others of racism would be so focused on the trials and tribulations of an American auto worker who makes fifty bucks an hour over that of a dirt-poor Pakistani villager whose family has just been decimated by a US drone attack.
The great downfall of the US antiwar movement has been its dogged insistence on a multi-issue approach. It’s gotten to the point where these rallies all have the same character and tone: the whole litany of grievances is laid out, and every victim group gets to lodge its particular complaint. Opposition to our foreign policy of global intervention is just a single note in a symphony of protest. No wonder there are no more antiwar protests coming from the left – they’ve bored themselves to death!
And us, too, I might add.
Part Two will appear in this space on Monday.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Common Fallacies About
Anti-Interventionism – February 21st, 2012 - The Big One Cometh – February 19th, 2012
- Voting Out the War Party? – February 16th, 2012
- The Pentagon’s Lie Machine – February 14th, 2012
- What Now? – February 12th, 2012





emsnews
November 11th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
At the Albany meeting, the big draw was to get nasty with Arizona for trying to stop the flood of illegal aliens. Seriously, this issue has utterly killed the left's chance for bringing in much of the US public.
Johnny in Wi.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
The far left has always been delusional. If these wars are to end and the empire disolved it will have to come form the sane right of libertarians and paleo-conservatives. The left loves big government intervention, be it in the economy at home, or or spreading their wacky agenda abroad..
davidgrayling
November 11th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Nothing could be more delusional that the typical right-wing American imperialist. They embrace all the usual crap: America is exceptional, America is a Beacon on a Hill, America was born to rule, the American dream should be everyone's dream, etc.
They also believe that war is the way to solve problems, that the best way to argue with perceived enemies is to kill them and take their resources. This barbaric philosophy is destroying America and threatening the survival of the world.
When will Americans wake from their brain-dead sleep and realize that they are going in completely the wrong direction, realize that war will never bring peace, that greed is destructive, that killing brings hate?
If they don't realize it soon, America will be taken down!
http://www.dangerouscreation.com
ChrisDowd
November 11th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Well, here's the thing, I don't see why any serious antiwar person would appear on a stage with anyone who wears a "Trotskyite" label to begin with?
These left wing cultists are pettifogging "ism" nothings who debate their nothingness to the sound of their own applause- which couldn't fill Gillette stadium- maybe not even the Boston Garden.
Just what is supposed to be accomplished by even meeting with these people other than immediately turning off about 85 percent of Americans while making the other still sympathetic 14 percent wary of even participating?
Why not invite the guy who yells "The Rent is too high" to your antiwar event then?
Socialist Action Super Friends of Greater what? Who are these people?
Ehhh- I don't know- it's like they are a wax museum exhibit of an antiwar movement at Rush Limbaugh's museum of American history.
Maybe appearing on stage with fringe kooks whose only purpose seems to be to throttle any antiwar movement in its infancy is a big part of the "mystery" of why there is no Antiwar movement in this country to begin with?
I'm reminded of the early "Antiwar" protests back in 2002 and 2003 before the invasion. What were we shown as being representitive and typical of those with Antiwar views by our media in those days? I remember being shown topless lesbians with very large breasts walking around with antiwar slogans written across them and naked dudes. That was the image of the Antiwar movement we were shown – a crude stupid (and I can't help but think deliberate and coordianted) caricature of far left wing granola hippies and retro uber left radicals.
That is what many Americans associate in their minds when they think "Antiwar" to this day.
But, by all means, let us further confirm that helpful to the War Party image by appearing at events with tiny Trotsky cults and other assorted rigid and rote thinking ideologues who prefer to engage in endless ideological infighting and purification rituals than anything else.
Somehow- call me crazy- I don't think that is an exactly effective strategy for anyone who wants lives to be saved and the violence to end.
mickperry
November 11th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
The Tea Partiers did not topple the Republican establishment, it was Bush himself who destroyed the old Republican party. The Tea Party merely gave it a quick fix makeover that appealed to a lot of folks who obviously hadn't been paying too much attention to the weather until the financial hurricane hit home. That the Tea Party comprises mainly misguided and ill informed people is surely not even debatable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UASS1qFAIQ8&fe…
So far as racism goes, I imagined all those pictures at Tea Party rallies of Obama with a bone through his nose did I Justin? Or the New York Posts infamous cartoon the day before Obama was due to sign the TARP package shortly after his inauguration? I'd like to have seen the audiences that you've been addressing, because I don't believe that that they represent any broader a constituency than those you point your finger at in this article. Wilful blindness would appear to be contagious.
Raashid
November 12th, 2010 at 1:58 am
mickperry I think you are right. It seems increasingly like the old paleo-conservative element of the Republican Party has been eliminated from the political landscape. Henceforth it seems the right is represented by strict Christian Evangelicals and aggressive neo-conservatives. In either case, war abroad will remain a central pillar of Republican policy ad infinitum.
ChrisDowd
November 12th, 2010 at 2:42 am
What old "Paleo-conservative" element in the GOP? That was eliminated decades ago in the 1930's and died it's last gasps in the late 40's. "Paleos" haven't been anything but a whisper for decades.
Could someone point out to me who the big elected "Paleos" were among the GOP in the last 30 years? One? I know Jesse Helms was supposedly one of these "paleos" and he did say some "paleo" things on occasion but it never amounted to anything- and he served the MIC as a loyal vassal his entire career.
So please- someone with deep knowledge of this "paleo-conservatism" that some people seem to think actually has existed – please point out to me where they took big stands and on what issues- where they had even a marginal effect on ANY policy out of DC?
Paleos are a joke. An even bigger joke than the Trotskyites and other assorted left cultists who are portrayed in our media as being the face of the antiwar movement in this country – if such a face is even presented at all these days- which is damn rare.
Sorry- just tired of hearing about phantom political movements that exist only on lonely blogs or one or two very low circulation magazines.
Allies? Strategies? With who? Marginal cult remnants of long dead political movements? Paleos command the allegiance of basically no one and haven't for years. Same goes for the far left nuts Raimondo climbs on stage with every once in a while.
pwi
November 12th, 2010 at 3:25 am
I don't really recall the ant-war movement and its demonstrations, angry op-ed pieces in the New York Times, congressional resolutions put forward by the so-called antiwar caucus in the House of Representatives, as having stipped a darn thing, not a bullet, not a battle not a penny. Even when the target of W was so easy!
Lots of folk just co-opting stuff for a anti-Republican and anti-Bush movement.
hypewaders
November 12th, 2010 at 4:43 am
The only thing Murkins cold momentarily mobilize to in this regard to the Snore on War is a War on War- if it could be slickly produced, and televised with gaudy eye-candy. Actually, no.
"…us, too, I might add."
The only things that can possibly wake up the self-absorbed exceptionalist USA from our MICtrance is trauma and pain proportionate to what we wreak (& how we reek) abroad.
bozh
November 12th, 2010 at 7:36 am
too many people wanting just to patch the old pants and in just the places they choose; instead of getting new ones
if one leaves constitution as it is and allows the same interpreters to interpret it, who interpreted constitution as commanding every u.s. war, slavery, extermination of indigenes; attacks on korea, vietnam, afpak, palestina, iraq, lynchings, etc., one changes nothing for better.
in fact, the more we prostest ad hoc this or that, the more wars, poverty, ignorance, the constitution wages.
protesters don't realize the enormity of problem: no protest, movement, or org wld emend. only changing the structure can improve the situation. and only a new party with firm discipline can do that. a party can even physicly eject any person who is on a petpeeve or ad hoc path.
a party also cannot be infiltrated.
movements can! and they dissolve very quickly. that's why they are allowed! just look at how many ad hoc orgs there r. at least a thousand? and ?all inegalitarian or pushing for more private governance!
Greg
November 12th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Once something gets framed as a left vs. right issue, it is guaranteed that those in power will get what they want. The only thing they fear is a truly large movement, and this can never happen once they've successfully duped people into believing the issue is left vs. right. This is why they tried so hard to show the anti-war movement as a purely leftist thing. It prevented a lot of the right from ever considering the anti-war position seriously.
ChrisDowd
November 12th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Doubtful even then. A majority- a good sized majority of Americans in this country- right- left- whatever- applauded and supported and even joked about (Rush Limbaugh comes to mind specifically) the murderous assault on the Branch Davidians at Waco that killed over 80 people – including over 20 children- burned to death- screaming in agony as they literally were cooked to death.
Whatever group gets it first in this country- that is the first major recipient of the new murderous "Homeland" security powers of our federal government will be unpopular and it will be applauded and supported by a good majority of Americans. Muslims? Yep- easy target.
And yep- most mainstream "liberals" will fall right in line and clap and applaud as the first demonized group of Americans is mowed down into some mass ditch in the woods or put into labor camps. As for "paleos"- given that the one media representation of that marginal group is Pat Buchanan who is an Anti Muslim bigot and who sided with the "Ground zero mosque" know nothings- I would expect Paleos to support the rounding up of Mulsims in this country – if not joining in enthusiastically.
Albert Ciccarone
November 12th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Justin (part 1 of 2)
I am a radical Leftist as well as an uncompromising Libertarian. And I consistently promote AntiWar.Com and your brilliant socio-political analysis to my wide and diverse world (I teach socially troubled kids at a small, private high-school).__Your work on Military-Industrial tyranny, on Neo-Fascist Zionism, on intrusive and pervasive Government spying, on State-Capitalist sponsored economic emisseration, is consistently insightful.
Albert Ciccarone
November 12th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Justin (part 2 of 3)
Thus, my disappointment over your almost naïve analysis of the ‘Tea Party.’ Here you sound like the hackneyed leftists who wax romantic about any ‘Working Class’ social movement without regard to what they themselves would call ‘objective conditions.’
I live among ‘Tea Party’ people. And the ‘objective conditions’ I observe among them have little to do with the Bill of Rights, governmental micro-management of our every-day lives, Zionist manipulation of our foreign policy, State-Capitalist media hegemony, and the very real idea of unfettered existential freedom (rather than stylized ‘economic ‘autonomy).
Albert Ciccarone
November 12th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Justin, (part 3 of 3)
‘My’ Tea Partiers here in Berks County, Pa. do spew overtly racist, overtly ‘White Nationalist,’ overtly sacramentalized ‘support’ for all things military and interventionist, and overtly xenophobic hatred of things different—–not my idea of personal freedom. They, (‘my’ tea partiers) demonstrate no sense of the core libertarian concept of intrinsic and sui-generic internal (“Die Gedanken sind frei” etc) and external freedom. They are what Tim Wise and Gen Ford say they are: mean, ignorant, resentful, xenophobic, a-reflective ‘White Nationalists.’
You are right about the useless Trotskyites; you are right about the Left-Liberal sell-outs; you are right about the fossilized discourse of our tiny Left; you are right about ‘the Left’s’ inability to transcend the 19th century; but you are certainly not right about my racist neighbors.
Ron Paul is the exception that proves the rule: they revere Beck, and Palin, and Cheney, and Jesus, and Israel; they barely know (or don’t know) who Ron Paul is.
Albert Ciccarone
Norwegian Guy
November 12th, 2010 at 8:54 am
"and he also made a point of linking the antiwar perspective to the Palestine issue, a proposal that has proved remarkably divisive in the past."
This is a very odd criticism coming from Raimondo. He has often written about how the Israeli and US war machines are integrated, and showed how AIPAC has a disastrous influence on American foreign policy. In fact, I think he has earlier criticized left-liberal opponents of the Iraq war for not daring to rise this issue.
Sean2009
November 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am
I'd like to know where I can go to experience this mythical version of the Tea Party you are talking about. I went to one of their local rallies here in NY, and all they talked about was Israel and how Obama has betrayed Israel and failed to support our troops and protect us from the terrorists. Granted I got there a little late, but I doubt there was any talk of ending the war at that rally, or doing a damn thing to help the local economy where unemployment is over 30 percent.
I would agree that many so-called "ant-war" outfits on the left (like MoveOn) are merely front-groups for the Dems who in turn are just a front party for the neocons and the corporate elite, just like the Republicans and the Tea Party, but at least they are paying lip service to ending the war. With the exception of Ron Paul and a handful of others, I see the Tea party as being near monolithic in its support for war, Israel, corporatism and the police state. If II am wrong here, please set me straight.
You talk about forming anti-war coalitions with anyone who opposes the war, regardless of their politics, and I would agree. Yet you imagine that associating a call for ending the war with the need to fund Social Security and other domestic programs is going to turn Americans off more than associating the anti-war movement with the likes of Ziofascist, pro-empire loons like Glenn Beck and his racist, Islamophobic bullshit? Or morons like Sarah Palin?
A left-wing agenda is hardly inconsistent with opposing the war and most Americans, "conservative" though they may or may not be, support Social Security and Medicare. Most Americans are understandably a little more concerned about keeping their jobs and feeding their familes than achieving "freedom" by liberating corporations from the ebil gummint. An anti-war movement motivated more by hatred of taxes and government regulation than hatred of war and the plutocratic forces underlying it may appeal to many libertarians, but will never strike at the root causes of our nation's militarism.
liveload
November 12th, 2010 at 9:10 am
The only thing that can bring back any kind of "anti-war" movement is conscription…and that wont happen until this beast is in its death throes. Rotted from the inside out, blind, deaf, and too bloated to move, it will consume itself as its last act.
liberranter
November 12th, 2010 at 9:18 am
I am a radical Leftist as well as an uncompromising Libertarian.
Sorry, Albert, but you're either one or the other. The two are mutually exclusive.
Cary
November 12th, 2010 at 9:24 am
You have accidentally stumbled on the real secret of the "left." The people you think of as "left" and "committed to end war" have no such plan. Hostility to the war was simply a way to oppose the Bush regime and accomplish related political aims. Anti-war by the left is simply a tool for other ends.
The "left" is a whited sepulcher.
donna
November 12th, 2010 at 9:36 am
The Left certainly is myopic, but you don't get off the hook that easily. Libertarians don't connect all the dots either, especially those between big government, the empire, and capitalism. How can you be a champion of the "free" market and opposed to capitalism's wars? The very essence of capitalism and a free market is unfettered and unlimited growth and profits, which can only come about through wars to steal commodities from weaker nations. War is intrinsic to a free market system (which has never been free anyway, but that's another myth buster). So how do you reconcile this inherent contradiciton?
Police State of Mind
November 12th, 2010 at 10:00 am
exactly. the whole paradigm is false and used by the political and media elites to control and marginalize discourse. all the stooges out there that self label themselves as republicans or democrats, liberal or conservatives make me sick. our country was founded on the premise of the rule of law and those laws being constitutional. that is the only criterias that matters. with regards to these wars, the only questions that needs (or ever needed) to be asked is: are they constitutional and/or legal? the answer by all accounts (not declared by congress, legal precedent in international law, nurenberg rulings on pre-emptive war which we signed off on etc. etc.) is a resounding "no". end of debate.
Danxia
November 12th, 2010 at 10:22 am
3) I take racism as an obvious example – I might have talked about immigration, welfare, homosexuality etc. – in other words, issues about which (the majority of) conservatives and (the majority of) progressives tend not to agree.
4) Having said that… Justin's main point stands undiminished. The antiwar movement is seriously crippled and a Left-Right coalition on this issue is the only way around this. People on the left and the right are just too afraid of the other side owning the antiwar issue, and – should they gain political momentum on this – rolling out the other aspects of their agenda. Well, guess what? There's no danger of this any time soon because the antiwar issue just isn't popular enough right now.
Danxia
November 12th, 2010 at 10:22 am
5. Here's a proposition: if the antiwar left quits this incessant linking of war to a global capitalist conspiracy and if the antiwar right stops harping on about the welfare-warfare state…. then maybe we could get somewhere on this issue. I'm not saying either of these analyses are wrong. But to make the survival of an antiwar coalition conditional upon a theoretical consensus about the causes of war is just daft.
6. I'll tell you all what the cause of war is – sending troops overseas to invade another country. Make a big noise about that, stop the wars…. and then we'll talk about causes.
Bianca
November 12th, 2010 at 10:39 am
There is no left, and there is no right. There are only staged events, for our entertainment. When elected, they are all neocons. When public stops accepting TERMINOLOGY shoved into our mouths by the media and the political tycoons, then there is going to be some change. For once, eliminate the word ENTITLEMENTS. This has been hoisted upon us, to signify the right of the kings and queens of Congress to take away what is THEIRS. OUR TRUST FUND, the Social Security is no more subject to trimming then ANY OTHER TRUST FUND IN THE COUNTRY. We bailed them out, we own them. Cannot have both ways! They want their money protected, and pay with OUR social security kitty! If we learn how to PUT THE FOOT DOWN, and not allow one cent cut from Social Security, we will force the issue of endless wars. No to Social Security cuts, no to health care cuts, no to school funding cuts, no to local government cuts —- until the money stops leaking out of the country into wars, bases and foreign aid. Just say NO.
bozh
November 12th, 2010 at 11:23 am
looks like my first post will not appear. what is happening?
Rob
November 12th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Very important essay, thanks.
Some points :
1 . Kevin Zeese and you are right on target. It's a question of priorities, and differences of opinion on various matters, which are also very important, should be momentarily dropped in order to attend to this, the most important of all issues.
2. I, and others commenting here, have not really seen the evidence that those vindicating the "Tea Party" label are actually opposed to foreign intervention, and what tends to stand out most is on the contrary a general approval of anything military, and exacerbated nationalistic tendencies with general support for anything which will "defend the homeland" – whatever that means. Add to that what seem to be pretty xenophobic ideas. This means that there is a lot of confusion within the movement (and for those observing it) as to what it really stands for. There is a lot of good people in it, who have latched on to the movement which is protesting US policies the most vehemently, but they are ultimately being taken for a ride, it seems to me. They're not getting the right answers to their problems.
3. War IS very profitable for certain parts of the population (makes oil prices go up in the Middle East, benefiting that sector) armament manufacturers, "intelligence" agencies and private corporations (which have grown immensely since 9/11), etc. In this sense, it IS a "capitalist conspiracy". If war were not profitable for certain people, it would quite simply not be happening, or at least not on this scale.
4. The Democratic Party is not, as has never been on the "Left". The "Left" has always had problems organizing because they are bad at it, I think. It's their fault. Those supporting Obama unconditionally are not part of the "Left", assuredly.
5. There seems to be a difference in motivation between people for ending foreign interventions – one seems to be opposed for fiscal reasons, and the other for moral reasons, or a little of both. Now, it seems to me that there are many conservatives that would be happy to continue the war machine's predations AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT BECOME TO COSTLY FOR US. This is hardly a moral standpoint.
6. Brilliant, as always.
RED DAVE
November 12th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Well Justin, as something of a Trotskyist let me analyze what you wrote at the end. And, by the way, when are you going to start distinguishing between liberals and the Left? Probably never.
You wrote:
"The great downfall of the US antiwar movement has been its dogged insistence on a multi-issue approach."
No evidence for this whatsoever except that you don't like it.
"It’s gotten to the point where these rallies all have the same character and tone: the whole litany of grievances is laid out, and every victim group gets to lodge its particular complaint."
This is called coalition politics, left-wing style. You don't like it. Why don't you, on the basis of your reputation, and any groups you've got around you, try to build a coalition, right-wing style. I haven't had a good laugh lately.
"Opposition to our foreign policy of global intervention is just a single note in a symphony of protest."
Yup. Not only does the Left oppose the war, we have a theoretical idea as to why it happened (hint: it has something to do with capitalism), and we also believe that it's necessary to outline and fight against the entire litany of effects caused by the war.
"No wonder there are no more antiwar protests coming from the left – they’ve bored themselves to death!"
No, what's happened is that the largely liberal support for the antiwar movement collapsed after the election. Your solution, delightfully, is the same as Obama's: move to the right.
"And us, too, I might add."
The Left isn't here to entertain you, Justin. But based on what you're writing about the Left and Right, you might have a future in standup.
Again, if you don't like the Left's organizing style, go out on your own. Just google "Tea Party." I'm sure you'll find a meeting near you. if you intend to speak out, though, I'd have my healthcare paid up. Rand Paul and his bullyboys are the wave of the future.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
November 12th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Lenin wrote, "ethics are the aesthetics of the future". As an Orthodox Christian, I believe in the exact opposite, i believe that "beauty will save the world".
I'm an addict of nature documentaries. You don't even imagine how many wars are going on in nature. Within species and between species. Between lions and hyenas, between vervet monkeys, between ants and termits, between mongoose. For food and to perpetuate genes. Animals feel love, hatred, empathy…
The only trait that makes us different is our capacity to resist temptation not out of fear of retribution but because we have over the ages developed concepts of right and wrong. We have developed a conscience that our actions have moral value. Don't do to the others what you don't want others to do to you. Live and let live. Do no harm. That's why we are "civilised" instead of simply "gregarious".
Every ideology is in essence utilitarian. It defines means to achieve an end. No matter how many corpses litter the road to achieve that end. But the end doesn't justify the means.
That's why any form of conformity to any ruling ideology is immoral. That's why ideology and ethics are mutually exclusive.
Is being a "Leftist" more important than being "Moral"? Is being a "Rightist" more important than being "Moral"? That's the question to ask.
bill g
November 12th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
I reconcile it by pointing out that war benefits some corporations and industries that sell things necessary to the war effort but that the net effect on the total economy is negative. The money that is spent on war is money that could otherwise be spent on other things. The fact that we don't get to purchase these other goods is our loss. The belief that war benefits the economy is a classic example of the broken window fallacy of economics in which breaking a window is an economic benefit because it provides employment to the glazier. The money spent to replace the window is money that could have been better spent elsewhere.
David Smith
November 12th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
"…didn’t phase him one bit."
The word is "faze", not "phase."
paulBass
November 12th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
im not sure when or how it happened, but anyone who is rationally on the left is against open immigration and any one on the right would be for it.
its a pure electoral mind game.
you can't maintain a welfare state with free and open borders period, end of argument.
(unless its just about racism and who we want to come and who we don't)
John Uebersax
November 12th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Good article!
MoT
November 12th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
That is correct. It isn't left or right it's US vs. THEM. Whenever people play inside the sandbox that the elite define on-the-fly they've essentially handed their enemies the rope which will be used to hang themselves.
MoT
November 12th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Capitalism, or the lack thereof, never stopped Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot from murdering millions even within their own borders. There are no good reasons for any system to engage in the pursuit of murderous war or retribution. To say that the peaceful pursuit of wealth, and by extension the furtherance of good will and well being to ones own children and others, is somehow part and parcel responsible for the evils of war is simply absurd. The problem lies within the heart and not the coin.
Bianca
November 12th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
The questions to ask. Why playing games with a fully self-funded social security that has TRILLIONS dollars SURPLUS, and is solvent as far as 2040 based on actuarial study that manages Social Security funding? Reforms conducted in the nineties created the surplus in order to deal with the baby boomer retirement. Why are corporations paying no taxes. Exxon last year paid ZERO (0) in federal tax. Why are we taxing small family-owned business and family-owned farms the way we tax multi-billion corporations? Hence, NO federal taxes on family owned business or farm. Small business federal tax cannot exceed the lowest tax of any country in the world. Why is a corporation an American corporation if it employs more then 50% people out of US? These are NO LONGER US companies, and have them taxed and regulated as any other foreign company. They are hoarding the money, as they find investing in US not worthy their uppity noses. Tax them until they do not have the problem of too much money. Sell GM and rotten banks we invested into, and build high-spead rail in US, and finance small manufacturing to stop importing like crazy.
Danxia
November 12th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Left-Right coalitions don't involve the left "moving to the right" or vice versa. Justin isn't asking for anyone to change their theories. He just wants to see a simple bipartisan opposition to war. Anyone who would rather the wars continue than participate in such a coalition does not place great value on the lives of people who are the victims of US imperialism. They are, I would say, part of the racist majority.
Danxia
November 12th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
"It's just as if a man were wounded with an arrow thickly smeared with poison. His friends & companions, kinsmen & relatives would provide him with a surgeon, and the man would say, 'I won't have this arrow removed until I know whether the man who wounded me was a noble warrior, a priest, a merchant, or a worker.' He would say, 'I won't have this arrow removed until I know the given name & clan name of the man who wounded me… …. until I know whether the bow with which I was wounded was a long bow or a crossbow… … He would say, 'I won't have this arrow removed until I know whether the shaft with which I was wounded was that of a common arrow, a curved arrow, a barbed, a calf-toothed, or an oleander arrow.' The man would die and those things would still remain unknown to him."
Vojkan Milosavljevic
November 13th, 2010 at 2:56 am
"As something of a Trotskyist", how do you explain Trotsky's crimes in the aftermath of the October revolution?
No wonder there can be no true antiwar movement. If peace is defended by smoky Trotskyite theories instead of a plain appeal to decency…
War has nothing to do with capitalism. War has to do with greed and hubris. Stop once looking at the world through your ideological prisma. Look at the world as it is. Look at the world with the eyes of an ordinary human. An ordinary human sees the world in all its glorious beauty and feels all the hardships of it.
Your neocon pals are Trotskyites too. And please don't give me the typical commie line about how they are not true or how they erred, while you are true to your ideals. You and the "Right" actually need each other in the exact same way the US government needs Bin Ladens or communists needed imaginary internal and external enemies, "counter-revolutionaries" to be precise.
But then, I can't imagine a worse punishment for the US than a Trotsky vs Trotsky revolution. America is indeed, as someone told me one day, the only country in the world where Communism succeeded. Nowhere else has it so much penetrated the minds of people.
Sean2009
November 13th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Raimondo is throwing the Palestinians under the bus here. How can you be anti-war and ignore that Israel's ability to massacre the Palestinians and steal their land is dependent entirely on America's obsequious and unquestioning support for Israeli aggression? What are our current wars in the Mideast if not an extension of Israel aggression, carried out by the US military? Is support for the Palestinians divisive? Only to rabid Zionists and Islamophobes.
GradyWilson
November 13th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Excellent analysis RED DAVE. Especially the money shot: "No, what's happened is that the largely liberal support for the antiwar movement collapsed after the election. Your (Raimondo's) solution, delightfully, is the same as Obama's: move to the right. "
That's why I reject libertarianism. Their complaint is that the US capitalist imperialist state is actually "socialism" and the answer to go far right! Talk about redefining reality.
Mhstahl
November 13th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
How so? Doesn't that rather depend upon the definition one uses for each term?
Jupiter7
November 13th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
The "American" left is insane.
Jupiter7
November 13th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
The "American" left will not form a anti-war coalition ant-war Tea Partiers,Paleo-conservatives and White Nationalist because all of the above are admantly opposed to immigration. The Left is fanatically in favor of open borders immigration policy because their number one agenda is the race-replacement of the Native Born White majority with high fertility post-1965 nonwhites. Barack Obama is the face of race-replacement. This is the reason why the left has given Barack Obama a blank check to start world war three. I thought this point would have been obvious to Justin Ramaindo.
Glenn Ford ought to be very carefull..as should every leftist. They just assume that the millions of Native Born White Americans will sit idly by as they get race-replaced by high fertility post-1965 nonwhites…it is only a matter time …millions of Native Born White Americans will politically organize around their racial interests just like Glen Ford and his people do….when this happens ..by any means necessary…legal an illegal will be shut down…and then the deportation of the mexican,mulim,china and india fifth columns.
Jupiter7
November 13th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
The "American" left will never be in coalition with conservative Whites, for they are highly likely to become racially radicalized in the near future. And the quickest way to racially radicalize millions of Native Born White Americans is to pass amnesty:the racial radicalization of the Native Born White majority will commence the next day..and accelerate exponentially every day afterward. It would be a gift to White Nationalism!!!! Then we will see how tough Glenn Ford is.
Jupiter7
November 13th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
And yes, Ramaindo is insane when he proposes right wing economics as the solution…it is obviously the problem. And I should point out that right wing economics requires and demands the race-replacement of the Native Born White Majority with high fertility post-1965 nonwhite scab labor. Noam Chomsky is in bed with his supposed enemy-the corporations..what a fraud you are Noam…..
Jeremiah
November 13th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Capitalism—if it is strictly defined as *economic individualism*—is not a necessary concomitant, consequence or cause of wars of aggression. On the contrary, the economic model of the warfare state is corporatism, wherein the state and large corporations are symbiotically integrated and each protects the monopoly of the other—the state holding a monopoly over power and force, and the corporate establishment having a state-sanctioned hold over the economy. Neither will tolerate actual free trade or competition (intolerable threats to their respective monopolies), and both mutually profit from wars. "War is the health of the state," said Randolph Bourne; and it is also the health of the state's client-proprietor cartels. Free trade—if defined as peaceful, consensual economic exchange among people and nations—does not occur in the shadow of gunboats and bombs. But corporatist economies make liberal use of high explosives. In fact, in its advanced (and, one hopes, *terminal*) form, corporatism manifests as empire.
I dislike labels and I dislike labeling myself—but my thought is generally quite libertarian. And that, in a tiny nutshell, is how this libertarian-leaning American "connects the dots."
bozh
November 13th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
my second post also had not appeared. is this site short of staff, i wonder?
Shaun
November 13th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Well now that we've established that the anti-war movement is completely screwed up, useless and ineffectual, hopefully part 2 of this column will offer some constructive ideas for solutions… and not just be lib'ral bashing part 2.
richard vajs
November 14th, 2010 at 5:13 am
I know some TEA Party members – best way to understand them is to visualize Archie Bunker with a strange love for Israel
RED_DAVE
November 14th, 2010 at 5:32 am
What kind of insane racist are you. Crawl back in your hole and go to sleep.
Jupiter7
November 14th, 2010 at 6:56 am
RED DAVE
What exactly do you mean by racist? Oh I know. In the demented world of White "American" leftists a racist is any Native Born White American who opposes the race-replacement of the Native Born White Majority with high fertility mexicans,chinese,hindus,sihks,muslims,hmong,koreans and pakis. In other words, Natve Born White Americans aren't allowed to have a racial preference….only post-1965 nonwhites and blacks are. Of course to an insane bastard such as you, the possibility that Native Born White Americans will revolt against the policy of race-replacement is incomprehensible. But they it is obvious that they are revolting against it.
Jupiter7
November 14th, 2010 at 7:09 am
To continue with my response to RED DAVE
The "American" antiwar movement understands that there is now an incipient revolt against post-1965 race-replacement legal immigration policy. And it is for this resaon that they will never want to be in a antiwar coalition with conservative White Tea Partiers. What took place in Albany was a was an anti-white race hate festival….no one here should be shocked that millions of NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICANS view the anti-war movement as a bunch of freaks.
For the "anti-war" movement, being anti-war is a very low priority…the very urgent highest priority is worshipping the Dear Leader and helping him accelerate the process of race-replacing the Native Born White Majority with high fertility hispanics,muslims,hindus,hmong.koreans,chinese and pakis. I am stating something that is very obvious. The only question is why Ramaindo couldn't figure out something that is so obvious.
Check out Richard Spencers' Alternative Right.
Jupiter7
November 14th, 2010 at 7:22 am
The fact of the matter is that Justin Ramaindo has nothing left t say. He is on board with post-1965 race-replacement immigration policy as is the antiwar.com collective. Therefore the can never make an antiwar pitch to millins of conservative Native Born White Americans who are getting very nervous about post-1965 race-replacement LEGAL immigration policy.
Foriegn interventions and the race-replacement of the Native Born White American Majority are deeply entangled. When push comes to shove the weirdo and treasonous White "leftist' will enthusiastically going for the war option.
TREASON IS THE REASON!!!!!
Jupiter7
November 14th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Here is the antiwar pitch that I make to my fellow Native Born White Americans:don't want another 9/11 on US soil? Don't listen to the lies of George W Bush(we have to invade Iraq,Afgahnistan an Iran all the terrorist will come here to murder your families). Deport all muslims back to the middle east….and..bring all the economically distressed American Teenagers back form the middle east..problem solved…real easy.
A zenophobic and pro-Native Born White American immigration policy is the solution. Justin Ramaindo and the antiwar collective are psychological incapable of stating this..but it is the solution and ultimtaely in the years to come will be the solution.
Glen Ford think twice about picking a fight with the Native Born White Majority.
Vojkan Milosavljevic
November 14th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Learning from experience is a sign of intelligence, they say. Learning from other's people experience is a sign of wisdom, they say. Ideologically blinded people are incapable of learning from experience. They already know everything. "Lefties" are just hopeless. Because they're in the know of the Universe's laws. Down to Earth feelings are… too down to earth.
Alan MacDonald
November 18th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Justin, my apologies for the close-minded sector of the left.
You make the accurate initial point that the anti-war effort, and even whispering its name, was stabbed in the back by the weak-minded (Democrat party) sector of the left. I had not realized what awful slurs they threw at the principled libertarian anti-war right.
I am proud that Kevin did not express such xenophobia.
However, the 'learning moment' (excuse me for even using a phrase of the 0-man), is that it may be easier to educate even the Tea Partiers to hate the real problem of EMPIRE, than it is to educate this most embarrassing sector of the left not to hate the right, but to honor the absolute primacy of left/right solidarity "Against Empire" (as Michael Parenti would say).
Justin, the recent deadening silence on the issue of anti-war simply reflects the continued deadening silence on the issue of EMPIRE — and these silences are related, and can be reversed to our mutual advantage against Empire and against War.
Everyone, left and right, can be easily convinced to be against Empire — for what damage it causes "abroad" and "at home" (as Hannah Arendt warned decades ago).
If we can teach the Tea Partiers that EMPIRE was the real enemy of the revolutionary movement they are named for, and by doing so get both the principled and informed sectors of the left and the energy of the right to level their verbal and active sights on Empire, and as MLK might have said to 'break the silence' on the pathology of Empire as being the singular cancerous cause of both war "abroad' and tyranny "at home", then the EMPIRE will not be able to silence either the left or the right citizen solidarity against either Empire or war.
Best,
Alan