We’re in the midst of a spy scare, one of those periodic bouts of paranoia that spreads, like a virus, from Washington on outward. This time, it’s alleged Russian spies, but the scare is already becoming a generalized fear, permeating official Washington and the "mainstream" media like a poisonous fog. Check out Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Michigan), a member of the House intelligence committee, Fran Townsend, CNN’s "national security correspondent," and CNN anchor Suzanne Malveaux in the "Situation Room," bloviating oh-so-knowledgably about this latest "threat":
"MALVEAUX: Well, Congressman, I want you to weigh in on this. How concerned are you that this is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to spying inside of the United States?
"HOEKSTRA: Well, I don’t worry about that whether it is the tip of the iceberg or not. I know it’s the tip of the iceberg. Not only are the Russians involved in this, but the Iranians are involved in these types of activities. The Chinese are very involved in these types of activities. We just had a successful prosecution earlier this year of a Chinese sleeper, and Fran is absolutely right, these countries have invested, you know, significant amounts of time and energy and personnel to get people planted here today so that maybe in five or ten or 15 years, they only need one of these people to pay off and get an important penetration, and provide them with real significant and valuable information. This is the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot more of this going on."
How could I have missed that they’d drag in the Iranians? But of course, and if I were one of the hundreds of thousands of Iranians living in the US, I’d be worried. Ditto Chinese-Americans. That’s the idea behind the propaganda of fear: intimidation as a method of rule. And of course be sure to pick on a vulnerable minority – preferably a racial group that has yet to achieve official victim status. Are those pockets of Iranian immigrants ringing the Los Angeles metropolitan area really a ring of giant sleeper cells just waiting for the moment to strike? How about your next door neighbor, the Chinese-American engineer who works for a defense related industry and drives a better car than you? Who’s to say he’s not a sleeper, too?
The uses of the current spy scare are many, and scary: the politicians of Hoekstra‘s ilk are all too ready to extend the paranoia to include their favored targets, and the media loves a story like this, one complete with a compelling narrative – "sleeper agents" in suburbia! Dastardly spies who look like the clean cut couple next door! – and a "flame-haired beauty." What more could cable news ask for?
Playing her role as a megaphone for the War Party to the hilt, "reporter" Malveaux asks Hoekstra the one question he really wants to hear:
"Who are the most dangerous spies? Congressman, you mentioned the Chinese and the Iranians and either one of you jump in here. Do we know who is the most dangerous when it comes to getting our state secrets?
HOEKSTRA: Well, okay, from my perspective, I think both the Russians and the Chinese are very, very aggressive. They are very good. They are not only targeting military and intelligence areas, but they are also targeting our research universities and there is cases where we are well aware of that they have stolen our secrets and stolen our information and they have patented it before we have ever known that they have taken it.
"TOWNSEND: That is right. I agree completely…"
Of course she agrees completely. That’s what she’s paid to do. It’s her job: to validate the War Party’s not-so-hidden agenda. Russia isn’t the point: they’re just the convenient fall guys. Contra Hoekstra, if the activities of the Russian "sleepers," as detailed in the indictment [.pdf], are any indication of the danger posed to the US, then I’d say we can all relax. I don’t think the spy cabal’s research into the prospects for the gold market, for one known example, pose any great threat to our national security. The real point is to extend the spy scare to include the enemy of the moment, in this case Iran. The "expert" Ms. Townsend then goes on to say:
"The other thing I would mention that they target is our commercial, our technology. You know, our American companies invest a lot of money in R&D and we know that the Chinese and the Russians are very aggressive about targeting what in this country is that they can get through commercial relationships or on open sources, but what is restricted from transfer outside of the country, and so that is another one of the benefits that these sleepers can establish commercial relationships that really steal our intellectual property."
At this point, I can’t help but wonder why she doesn’t mention the one country with a considerable clandestine – as well as open – presence in the US, and that is Israel, which the FBI’s 2005 annual report on "Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial Espionage" accused of running "an active program to gather proprietary information within the United States." Unlike the Russians, they don’t seem too interested in the gold market: "These collection activities," the FBI continues, "are primarily directed at obtaining information on military systems and advanced computing applications that can be used in Israel’s sizable armaments industry." If the Russkies are using old-fashioned cold war technology like invisible ink and passing bags of cash at train stations, the 2005 report describes Israeli spies as using electronic means and specifically computer intrusion as their primary tools.
If Hoekstra and Townsend are so worried about the alleged danger posed by Russian and Chinese espionage, then surely the considerable Mossad presence ought to concern them as well: after all, when Jonathan Pollard stole priceless secrets from the US on behalf of Tel Aviv, the Israelis traded the information to the Soviets in exchange for the release of tens of thousands of Russian Jews to be sent directly to Israel. According to a 1996 report by the Office of Naval Investigations, the Israelis sold stolen US military technology to the Chinese, and this came out in 2000, again, when Tel Aviv tried to sell China the ultra-secret Phalcon early warning detection system, created in the US.
In 2005, the FBI concluded that these heists posed an effective challenge to US military superiority, and cost us dearly, confirming an earlier report by the General Accounting Office (GAO). The GAO study of the costs of espionage detailed numerous instances of the theft of sensitive technology by Israeli citizens residing in the US, illustrating the key role played by Israeli hi tech companies as intelligence fronts. The GAO flat out declared that Israel "conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally."
The activities of the Russian "moles" are a comic opera next to this kind of sophisticated and fantastically successful operation. Yet we hear next to nothing about it. Why do you suppose that is?
No one doubts that many nations wish to penetrate our national security firewall and steal our secrets. The question is: which nations have had the most success?
I would submit, based on their pathetic performance, that the Russkies are the very least of our problems. As for the Chinese, they already have their boots on our necks: in any conflict with the US, all they have to do is stop buying our debt and they’ll have won. Why bother stealing our secrets when they can buy them – buy us – without going to the trouble to plant "sleeper cells"? (The likeliest recruits to a Chinese sleeper cell are members of the Congress of the United States, which keeps upping the national debt — and handing Beijing the whip they’ll use if we get too aggressive.)
The Russians, you’ll note, concentrated on going after figures with some political influence: i.e. those with access to the President, or other elected officials, rather than industrial or technical targets. In the age of the American empire, with Washington dominating what goes on in many if not most parts of the world, this is a survival mechanism. With the US claiming the "right" of militarily preempting an alleged threat at any time or place, every other nation on earth needs an early warning system. This is part of the price of empire, and as long as the American people are willing to bear the costs the problem will persist.
I only hope – or, rather, wish – our intelligence services are as skilled at tracking down real terrorist cells as they are at scooping up cold war leftovers. Somehow, I rather doubt it.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Edward Snowden vs. the Sovietization of America – June 18th, 2013
- A Note to My Readers – June 16th, 2013
- Datagate and the Death of American Liberalism – June 13th, 2013
- Smear Brigade Goes After Snowden – June 11th, 2013
- Edward Snowden, American Hero – June 9th, 2013





E. A. Costa
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:26 am
"The secret dominates this world, and first and foremost as the secret of domination. According to the spectacle, the secret would only be a necessary exception to the rule of abundant information offered on the entire surface of society, just as domination in the 'free world' of the integrated spectacular would be restricted to only an executive department in the service of democracy. But no one really believes the spectacle. How then do the spectators accept the existence of the secret that alone guarantees that they cannot manage a world, the principal realities of which they know nothing about, if one were to truly ask them for their opinions on the manner of managing it? It is a fact that the secret doesn't appear to hardly anyone in its inaccessible purity and its functional universality. Everyone accepts that there is inevitably a small zone of secrecy reserved for specialists; as for the generality of things, many believe that they are in on the secret.
In the Discourse on Voluntary Servitude, La Boetie showed how the power of a tyrant must encounter many supports among the concentric circles of individuals who find, or believe to find, their advantage in it. Likewise, many politicians and mediatics who are flattered that no one can suspect them of being irresponsible, know many things through their connections and confidences. Someone who is happy to be taken into confidence is hardly likely to criticize it; nor to remark that in all the confidences, the principal part of reality will always be hidden from him. Thanks to the benevolent protection of the cheaters, he knows a few more of the cards, but they can be false; and he never knows the method that directs and explains the game. Thus he immediately identifies himself with the manipulators and scorns the ignorance which in fact he shares. Because the scraps of information offered to the familiars of a lying tyranny are normally infected with lies, manipulated and uncheckable. They are, however, pleased to get these scraps, for they feel themselves superior to those who know nothing. They only know better than the rest so as to better approve of domination and never to actually comprehend it. They constitute the privilege of first-class spectators: those who have the stupidity to believe they can understand something, not by making use of what is hidden from them, but by believing what is revealed to them!"
Guy Debord [tr. NB]
E. A. Costa
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 am
He led three lives–Russian Intelligence Agent, Latino, Infiltrator of the PTA!
Just can't wait for the television series.
PT
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:17 am
Why would the Chinese bother to spy on us? The moment we invent a technology worth stealing, we give them the full details so they can manufacture it for us. Still, I'm sure they wouldn't peek at it – they have all those "Chinese walls" that work so well in financial companies.
mickperry
July 2nd, 2010 at 6:30 am
In the current climate, might it now be permissible for the media to ask what does Sibel Edmunds know about spies that threaten the security of the United States?
bogi666
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:52 am
The USG with its preemptive war, war strategy creates a need for foreign intelligence by those countries which might be targeted for "preemption". How dare they spy on the USG and it malevolent goals. I'm also certain that their are USG spies abroad as well. Red herrings and stalking horses all meant to deflect Americans from matter affecting their own lives. More mindlessness recited by the MSM from the USG. Great article Justin and thanks.
Corkey
July 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 am
I am still anxiously awaiting the debut on FOX or CNN of the WWE's The Iron Sheik as a guest "heel" commentator on behalf of the Iranians. Now, he can effectively piss people off and help the war effort. Now, with Russia doing a "heel turn", he can bring along his buddy Nikolai Volkoff too. And they call this journalism ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2rneQ-ZA8Q&fe…
Phil
July 2nd, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Indeed, the media has been terribly negligent in covering the Sibel Edmonds case and other such cases. And the media andCongress continue to cover things up.
But that does not mean that Russia's intentions are benign.
Bruce Richardson
July 2nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
During the 1980s, the Israelis stole the plans for a high-altitude, high-resolution optical system to be mounted aboard F4 Phantom aircraft from a mid-western US firm. This was accomplished when they contracted for the system under (FMS) Foreign Military Sales. Placing who they termed QA assurance inspectors in this facility, they proceeded to steal the plans and then canceled the contract with the US firm. Later the system was offered to the Chinese. Though I'm not sure if the Chinese bought it or not, this subterfuge cost the US firm dearly, resulting in bankruptcy.
anti_republocrat
July 2nd, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Here's what doesn't make sense to me. Most USG "secrets" are well-known in the rest of the world and secret only to the American public. The impression I get of these Russian "spies" is that they were deeply involved in some sort of role-playing game where they were pretending to be spies. Some may possibly have accepted pay from Russian "handlers" but actually produced little if any useful intelligence that wasn't available directly off the internet or other casual observation of the world.
musings
July 2nd, 2010 at 2:01 pm
What's interesting about "the Iranians" as a threat is that most of them who came to the US were supporters in one way or another of the Shah. Or at least belonged to religious groups which would be persecuted under the current regime. Their interests thus perfectly dovetail with those of people concerned about Israeli security, do they not? I mean wouldn't bringing down the current regime in Iran be in the interests of both parties? And have little to do with our own, if it involved being dragged into another war? That would be one faction to pay attention to, rather than assuming all Iranians support the current regime and are just in the US to spy for it. Their spying, if they do it, would have an entirely other purpose and would be facilitated by a nation which cannot be named often enough in connection with intelligence gathering.
musings
July 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Are you saying that the Chinese knocked off the system for the Israelis? This goes beyond Gucci and Louis Vuitton.
Has anyone ever wondered who is in charge of American technology transfer matters? Who decides who gets into a facility?
Actually, since I am not a big defense advocate, I would say we only get what's coming to us most of the time. But still – this one way love affair is a little old.
Jacques
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Bogeymen at 12:00 High! Run for the hills! Holy crap-cape Batman, we have spies in the USA!
Now… about all of our spies in dozens of countries across the globe… is that OK because they are OUR village idiots and not theirs?
DonT
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:46 pm
One word: sayanim
E. A. Costa
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Strictly from the outside, and from what is so far available, this curious story once more has all the marks of what one calls, advancing Debord, the "Meta-Spectacular," that is, the manipulation of the Spectacle itself, not to influence, through mediatrics, the Spectacle's public audience but to manipulate others involved in the Spectacle.
The distinction is key.
The first clue is the timing–immediately after a supposedly useful meeting between Medvedev and Obama, and when Russian and American "cooperation" is a topic of the day.
Even if this were a serious espionage case, the Russians would be right to ask the Obama administration why now rather than a month from now or a month ago? Why unveiled publicly rather than privately?
What pressing act of espionage, then, necessitated acting now? An upcoming PTA meeting? Hardly.
If there is no such press to act now, rather than earlier or later, then the timing must be presumed to involve the Spectacle itself, not events which would ordinarily be hidden from the Spectacle and the public in the first place.
The seeming emptiness of the case as espionage confirms that chronological aspect.
Failure to register as an agent of a foreign government, false passports and identities, and so forth, with all the descriptions of craft but toward what? Public knowledge and potentially useful personal connections?
The mediatrics then splash the whole works as a high profile "Spy Case."
All these threads are present in the Dubai Affair, but the central act was an apparent assassination.
Where is the central act in this case? What was the security threat that justifies the chronology?
Then suddenly one of the figures arrested on charges that are clearly not espionage "confesses".
The headline reads, "Spy Confesses". That's nice but why is he a "spy" and to what did he confess if there is no espionage?
But also why does he "confess" so quickly and finger "Russian Intelligence" so punctually and conveniently for the mediatric splash, broadcasting he is indeed "a Russian Spy", even if he has not been charged with spying?
This leads to the possibility that both the putative Federal official who initiated the charges just at this date, AND Lazaro himself are part of the same operation, and that the point of the operation is is to influence actors in the Spectacle in some way, presumably Russian and American–including Medvedev and Obama or those around them.
That in turn, to use Angleton's metaphor, suggests at the US end one room in the mansion acting independently from another room and meta-spectacularly.
In fact standard practice when Counter-Intelligence, as opposed to Law Enforcement, uncovers this or that hostile group is–unless there is some pressing danger involved–to watch quietly and perhaps feed in false information.
But that involves secrets not public information, which this group seems to have been gathering.
If Law Enforcement, then, what is the point?
Could it be that in fact it is the case of one group of foreign agents, within Law Enforcement, acting against another group of foreign agents, and toward ends that have more to do with influencing public actors than the public?
Is it a Gary Powers type operation? A mini-Watergate? Some attempted blackmail, given Chapman, a la Marilyn Monroe and Kennedy or Christine Keeler? Is here indeed a Dubai connection or even Cyprus?
Who knows? But just because it is in the media doesn't mean that you, the consumers of mediatrics, are the main target or that making things public, rather than making covert threats in public media, is the point.
Wolfgang
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
In 1986, just a few months after I've started my job in the US, I've got a call from the FBI to meet with one of their people at a McDonald. Since my CV (I have no idea how the FBI got my CV, it wasn't at the internet then) showed that I was able to speak Russian and I had published in Russian and Polish then. (At that time I knew Russian better than English, which I just had been tought at a short course at the island of Malta, never had a good chance to learn in good English in East Germany). I did agree to translate some Russian typewriter texts during the next few months inside the completely secret FBI office. But I wonder if that had a big value due to the fact that I was helpless in English at that time. After a few months I was asked to travel to Russia to contact the person who was the origin of the typewriter texts. Which I denied, since I did not feel well working as a German for the FBI. And I never had second thoughts afterward! So what's the big deal with that entire blown up story? I'm sure the US has many more spies in Russia than Russia has in the US!!
W
E. A. Costa
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
"It is in these conditions that a parodic end of the division of labor suddenly appears, with carnivalesque gaiety, all the more welcome because it coincides with the generalized disappearance of all true competence. A financier can be a singer, a lawyer a police spy, a baker can parade his literary tastes, an actor can be president, a chef can philosophize on the movements of baking as if they were landmarks in universal history. Each can join the spectacle, in order publicly to adopt, or sometimes secretly practice, an entirely different activity from whatever specialty first made their name. Where the possession of 'mediatic status' has acquired infinitely more importance than the value of anything one might actually be capable of doing, it is normal for this status to be easily transferable and to confer the right to shine in the same fashion to anyone anywhere. Most often these accelerated media particles pursue their simple orbit of statutorily guaranteed admiration. But it happens that the mediatic transition provides the cover for many enterprises, officially independent but in fact secretly linked by various ad hoc networks. With the result that occasionally the social division of labor, along with the easily foreseeable solidarity of its use, reappears in quite new forms: for example, one can now publish a novel in order to arrange an assassination. Such picturesque examples also go to show that one should never trust someone because of their job.
But the greatest ambition of the integrated spectacular is still that secret agents become revolutionaries, and that revolutionaries become secret agents."
Guy Debord [tr.BB]
E. A. Costa
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:58 pm
The fellow in Cyprus disapppears and Cyprus is the focal; point of the Eastern Mediterranean and in the news, isn't?
Seems a lot more promising thread thanwhat 'X or Y moved at the PTA, eh?
Like P-O-O-L–break the rack and there is action all over the table but the eight ball goes underground (if that is what happened) in Cypus.
Hmmm.
E. A. Costa
July 2nd, 2010 at 6:11 pm
…ten Kypron euthos einai keimenen…
Diodoros
San Fernando Curt
July 2nd, 2010 at 6:47 pm
I'm betting "news" about these bridge-and-tunnel Minions of Evil will have shelf life a whooole lot longer than that about any case against suspected spies connected to Israel.
As you pointed out earlier this week, it's Interesting that none of these dastardly soccer moms and bank employees have been charged with espionage – just money-laundering, failure to file as foreign agents, etc. That's the kind of chickenfeed for which we expell Israeli spies without so much as a slap on the wrist. I think your points are very well taken. It's hard to imagine how suburbanites and openly anti-American college professors could access really sensitive, perilous secrets – like those with which Ben-Ami Kadish passed to the Mossad. Oh… he got a fine of $50,000 and a mild chewing-out. Remember?
San Fernando Curt
July 2nd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
(Cont'd. from above) As a poster on The Athenaeum tallies the score.
"History suggests that (Stewart) Nozette will never face any serious consequences.
"Ben-Ami Kadish was fined and slapped on the wrist.
"Milchan never faced consequences for his involvement in the klystron incident.
"Indyk, Bloomfield, and Rosen of AIPAC never faced any prosecution for the ITC-USTR classified document incident in 1985. In 2009, Rosen and Weissman's espionage case was dropped.
"The IAI tie and Nozette's blatant wiretaps make this a "must suppress" for the Israel lobby. Look for a major technical violation on the prosecution side, or a national security/classified information issue to enter the picture."
While we're on the subject, anyone know whatever happened to Nozette – the spy who couldn't shoot off his mouth straight? Appears he's dropped from sight. Or down the memory hole. There was some courtroom hubbub earlier this year, then GONE…
jeff_davis
July 2nd, 2010 at 7:22 pm
My guess is they were basically inactive, and being held in reserve, pending future need.
Auntie_Spinster
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Justin, Try going back to your post (some years ago now) where you discussed "the dancing Israelis" and following any of the links you provided there: all dead now. Googling "dancing Israelis" gives 3,760 hits where as "iranian nukes" has 52000+ hits. And if you try to view the tv footage of the dancing israelis on YouTube, you get "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation. " You can see bits of them appearing on TV saying, apparently, "our purpose was to document the event." Hmmm. Give me honey-haired gold speculators over these guys anyday.
musings
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
So you're saying that what we are going to see is a kind of equal protection argument for all spies caught red-handed? No more Pollards?
E. A. Costa
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Actually, you are right. The US really doesn't have many secrets worth keeping anymore, even technologically. The Japanese, for example, are at least forty years ahead nowadays
Specific weapons systems, deployments, and so forth–sure those are still typical state secrets. But the grander mode no longer exists, if it ever did.
Moreover, as someone mentions above, most of the industrial techniques were got by the mainland Chinese from the US Corporate Capitalists themselves.
How?
Simple–they bought them–openly and for all to see.
And what they could not buy from the US the Israelis no doubt sold them.
Surely they still have a large number of agents in US universities, but even there their own research and that of the Japanese, Taiwanese, and so forth, is no doubt way ahead.
The vanguard is no longer the US.
Most important, should the US come up with something truly new–they will steal it overnight and be producing a better, cheaper version in a few years.
Many years ago one heard an interesting metaphor–to wit, that most of what copyright protected in the US was analogous to a garbage dumpster surrounded by heavily armed guards.
That now applies to US state secrecy as well. The real secret is that the US really has very few secrets worth keeping. And that is what must be kept from Boobus Americanus at all costs.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 1:41 am
NB: "mediatric" = "theatric" + "mediatic"
Andrewp111
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Don't poo-pooh the Russian spies. These "spies" were not her to conduct espionage directly. They were moles to facillitate the recruitment and placement of future spies. This is something that Russia does extremely well. During the Manhattan Project, the safety inspector was a Russian spy. He had access to everything. He was given a Hero of the Soviet Union medal by Putin posthumously 2 years ago. But how did he get into such a sensitive position? Russian moles in the US Army must have quietly directed him to the Manhattan Project. This is the kind of thing that the Russians were attempting with these 11 moles. Worming their way into US society so they could help their Comrades.
Auntie_Spinster
July 3rd, 2010 at 3:17 am
Well, thank goodness (or Fuchs) the Russians got the bomb. Looking at the USA today, it seems clear "we" would have run amok without a balance of powers.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 3:32 am
Having discovered them, discerning Counter-Intelligence watches quietly, which does more damage than exposing.
Clearly that is not what is at work here.
This is a Meta-Spectacular event and probably not in US interest.
If the Russians have an espionage program as good as the old KGB this only helps them.
If fact, is this really a Russian operation at all, or strictly a Russian one?
Debbie(aussie)
July 3rd, 2010 at 3:50 am
Just another excuse to further fracture US society, inculcate fear of the 'other'. You will all be so busy worrying about the 'spy next door' that you wont notice a further erosion in your civil liberties.
This does not, of course, apply to the majority of commenters here, but to the general populace. "Divided we fall" and all that.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 4:15 am
That is the mediatric aspect–they have already convicted the whole lot of being SPIES, even with no espionage charges.
SPIES, TERRORISTS, EXTREMISTS, COMMUNISTS, ISLAMO-FASCISTS,etc.
After Mencken, that is the old tried and true "Anglo-Saxon" hysteria.
But that clearly is iust the way it is exploitable, not the original impetus.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 4:17 am
Oh, and let's not forget MEXICANS!
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 4:21 am
White Racist xenophobic Christian Fundamentalist Zionist English-only Super-Patriots led by Neo-Con dual US and Israeli citizens, with Netayahu and Hagee fast friends across the waters.
What is wrong with this picture?
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 4:25 am
Maya Angelou called Clinton "the first black President."
One of these days one may well hear Jesse Jackson call Obama "the first white racist black president."
Conyers was a little sarcastic about "the President" t'other day.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 4:27 am
It's a Kulturkampf all right, and a tribal war, but that still does not explain these Russian "spies."
joehancl
July 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
I say screw the politicians, screw the elite. They are playing against each other at the expense of the people.
Seeker
July 3rd, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Having turned a blind eye for so long to widespread spying by our very best "friends" and "allies," the Israelis, the government getting into high dudgeon about Russian "spies," makes them look like the Keystone Cops.
(Cue Claude Raines.) There is spying going on in America??? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!!
MoT
July 3rd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Not likely.
MoT
July 3rd, 2010 at 2:56 pm
All theatrics on the world stage. None of it real. You've made a very valid point that these non-spy spies were in no position to do much of anything.
MoT
July 3rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Wouldn't it be funny if these "assets" were simply and deliberately exposed by Russian moles within the FBI. The resultant bumbling by the Feds used to further embarrass the fools while giving cover. Wheels within wheels.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
At one time the vast majority of the dues paying members of the CPUSA were FBI agents or tools.
They were the only ones who paid their dues punctiliously.
E. A. Costa
July 3rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
There's also very little doubt that most of the leadership of various American NAZI groups are thoroughly infiltrated by the Israelis.
They come in handy for fundraising, for example.
Jim
July 4th, 2010 at 12:11 am
"…and Fran is absolutely right, these countries have invested, you know, significant amounts of time and energy and personnel to get people planted here today…" What about the really significant amounts of time, energy and personnel the US invests in planting people all over the world. I wish these were just sleepers or spies or whatever. Instead they are psychopathic murderers like the hundreds of thousands who have invaded countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. I wish my country had such beautiful enemies like la Señorita Chapman.