The first nationwide antiwar protests in quite a while were held this past Saturday, held in part to commemorate the seventh anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, with a few thousands marching in Washington – I’ve seen estimates ranging from two to ten thousand – with scattered events in San Francisco and Los Angeles, and a few in the Midwest, an altogether poor turnout. In a widely reprinted piece, the Associated Press reported:
“The protest, organized by Act Now to Stop War and Racism or ANSWER, drew a smaller crowd than the tens of thousands who marched in 2006 and 2007. Protests in cities around the country also had far fewer participants than in the past.”
Even among those who attended the protests, there were some whose opposition to this administration’s foreign policy is squishy at best. The same AP article cites one Shirley Allan of Silver Spring, Md., who “carried a sign that read, “President Obama We love you but we need to tell you! Your hands are getting bloody!! Stop it now.”
Ms. Allan’s sign says more about her than it does about the issue she purports to address. To confess to loving a political leader whose hands are even a little bit bloody is quite a revealing statement to make, and it just about sums up why the crowd was smaller than on previous occasions. The hate-Bush crowd has quickly morphed into the love-Obama cult of personality, and the so-called progressives have deserted the antiwar movement in droves. Our multiple wars just aren’t an issue inside the Democratic party.
On the non-Marxist left, the triumph of the Obama cult is complete. Only the old-fashioned Leninists, such as the main organizers of the ANSWER rallies, have come out in visible opposition to Obama’s wars. Even the Marxist left, however, is not immune to Obama-mania: the other major antiwar coalition, United for Peace and Justice, led by veterans of the old Communist Party, USA, issued a euphoric statement upon Obama’s election and has been essentially moribund as an active antiwar organization ever since.
It was in this kind of political atmosphere, then – one of near complete political isolation – that rally attendees heard Cindy Sheehan wonder whether “the honeymoon was over with that war criminal in the White House.” Sheehan’s remark was met, according to AP, with merely “moderate applause.” Ms. Allan was not among the applauders:
“Allan thought it was going too far to call Obama a war criminal but said she is deeply disappointed that the conflicts are continuing. ‘He has to know it’s unacceptable,’ Allan said. ‘I am absolutely disappointed.”
Disappointment is not an emotion that can energize a movement, at least not with any immediacy: it must sit awhile and ferment into outrage. In the meantime, however, the US empire is on a course set for rapid expansion, extending its long arm deep into Central Asia, bidding to take up a position, both literally and figuratively, at the top of the world.
Having installed a friendly government in Iraq, which is suitably “democratic” – I see the CIA’s candidate, Iyad “the Executioner” Allawi, has managed to steal enough votes to perhaps win – and now intent on bringing the “success” of the “surge” to the Afghan front, the Obama administration is encountering very little opposition from either party in Congress. Out in the heartland, perpetual war is now considered normalcy. However, resignation rather than support characterizes public tolerance for this policy, and there is hope in the polls, which show increasing adherence to the position advanced by Saturday’s protesters: withdrawal of US troops from both Afghanistan and Iraq. More significantly, a recent Pew poll indicates majority support for “isolationism,” i.e. a policy of minding our own damned business.
How does the antiwar movement reach what I must call, for lack of a better phrase, the Silent Majority? Back in the day, that phrase was used by the War Party and the supporters of Richard M. Nixon to characterize what they believed to be the true majority sentiment in this country: vehemently in favor of the Vietnam war, and unalterably opposed to the forces represented by the then-burgeoning antiwar movement. Today, that sort of right-wing populism, embodied by the same lower-to-middle class demographic courted by Nixon, is still around, albeit significantly changed.
The political energy, today, is on the right side of the political spectrum, where all sorts of subversive ideas are percolating in opposition to the triumvirate of Big Government, Big Business, and Big Labor that now rules the country. David Brooks, the “conservative” voice of the Establishment, is sufficiently alarmed by the rise of libertarianism to devote an entire column to its dangers. The recent victory of libertarian Ron Paul at the annual CPAC conference, where he came in first in the presidential poll, set alarm bells off in the corridors of power, where Paul’s antiwar views are anathema, and a plethora of attacks ensued from both the neoconservative right and the “progressive” left.
Paul’s organization, the Campaign for Liberty, is a real force on the right, and is recruiting members by the thousands: a great deal of this growth is coming via CFL’s youth affiliate, Young Americans for Liberty, with thousands of members on campuses nationwide and a radical flair to their organizing efforts.
Here is a substantial body of activists, committed in principle to opposing what Paul calls “the Empire,” and yet I have not seen a single effort by any of the multitude of leftist antiwar “coalitions” to reach out to them. With the exception of Cindy Sheehan, virtually all of the speakers at Saturday’s rally were from what might fairly be described as the left – or, rather, the remnants of the left not absorbed by the Obama cult. What would it cost these people to invite Ron Paul, who is hardly an obscure figure, the man who stood up to the warmongering bully Rudy Giuliani and dared confront the War Party in its Republican lair?
A sure sign that the antiwar movement is in trouble is there are more antiwar “coalitions” and less actual members and activists. It seems like every leftist grouplet under the sun has its own “broad-based” antiwar would-be umbrella group, each with only enough of a periphery to shelter itself and a few camp followers. For all the talk of “broadening” and “deepening” opposition to war, the main preoccupation of these groups seems to be using them as recruiting pools to go fishing in. It’s easy to see why some minuscule Trotskyite sect may be content with a very small pool, but surely the gravity of the issue requires a more serious approach.
I was recently asked to contribute to a symposium in The American Conservative magazine devoted to the question of whether a left-right alliance, particularly on the issue of war and peace, is either possible or desirable, and my contribution will appear in a forthcoming number. The symposium springs in part, I understand, from a conference devoted to that topic which recently took place in Washington, D.C. For all of the reasons above, and more, I believe such an alliance is not in the cards, mainly because there is no real left left to ally with anymore.
We are confronted with the spectacle of alleged “leftists” campaigning hard for a healthcare measure that forces everyone to buy insurance from the very same “big corporations” we’ve heard “progressives” rail against since the days of Theodore Roosevelt. In the meantime, on an issue which has historically been linked to the left – war – we hear either nothing, or else weepy “disappointment.”
The only protests against the bank bailout, and the corporatist tendency in general, have been generated by the right. This accounts, I believe, for the almost obsessive coverage of the movement by such pro-administration “progressive” outlets as MSNBC: the tea partiers are a funhouse mirror reflection of what the left used to be, i.e. rebels against “the System.”
A recent piece over at the “Think Progress” site bemoans what it describes as the “obsessive” coverage of the tea partiers by comparing it with the scant attention given to the antiwar rallies, which, the piece claims, were larger: it’s an arguable proposition but I’ll give them that. But so what? The war issue is now seven years old, while this latest money grab by the corporate-government axis of greed is an issue of some immediacy. Aside from that point, however, there is a larger one: the antiwar movement and the tea partiers are parallel rebellions against the same enemy – a ruling elite that uses the State to enrich itself, entrench itself, and spread its malign influence all over the world. The problem being that parallel lines have a hard time meeting.
It’s springtime for Obama, and, ironically, the autumn of the authentic left, which is fast approaching extinction. A few of the old-fashioned liberals still persist – Glenn Greenwald comes to mind – but the sheer paucity of prominent examples underscores the shift that has taken place. As Ralph Nader – another survivor from the good old days – said at the Washington rally, the Obama administration has faithfully continued the Bushian foreign policy and the frontal assault on our civil liberties – and all, I might add, without any real rebellion in the “progressive” ranks. It’s like the Communist party after the signing of the Hitler-Stalin Pact – brain dead hand-raisers without an ounce of life or intelligence among the lot of them.
If the antiwar movement is to grow, it must reach out to the real America: the great American middle class, or what’s left of it. Battered by a “recession” that is in fact the first stages of a depression, angry about their loss of status and the economic and social dislocation that seems to be enveloping the entire society, the bourgeoisie is a seething mass of quite justifiable resentment. Like most ordinary Americans, they are sick and tired of sending their tax dollars and their sons and daughters overseas to fight aimless wars that never turn out as advertised. Why isn’t the antiwar movement trying to reach these people – who, after all, make up the single largest “interest group” in America?
Antiwar sentiment – and just plain anti-Establishment sentiment – is rising on the right, and certainly Ron Paul has tapped into this vein. Instead of resenting the tea partiers – and many of the original tea partiers were and are Paulians – and envying them their energy, the anti-interventionist left should be trying to plug into that power source, a much-needed form of alternative energy. A real union of left and right over the single issue of foreign wars would revive the flagging antiwar movement and pose a real challenge to the War Party for the first time in many years. The two main obstacles to that worthy goal are the Obama cult and a sold-out “liberal” leadership that has reconciled itself to the joys of power.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





Tom Mauel, WI
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:31 am
Where is the next Libertarian anti war rally? Oh yea there is no grass roots libertarian anti war
organization.
MoT
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 am
For many of us the time and expense of traveling vast distances to participate in said "protests" is becoming harder and harder to do. Burdened with mere survival, due to the deliberate dog-piling taxes and boom-bust bubbles foisted upon us by the elites, it's enough just to get by day to day much less march around on your devaluing dime. Time and money go hand in hand for us week to week hand to mouth "survivors". Those living in major metro areas have the benefit of easier access and sheer numbers but even there that doesn't mean you can afford to take time off. I believe it's all deliberate policy from the top down in order to muzzle the populace.
American Muse
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:38 am
The American Empire is on an abbreviated course to self-destruction.
Michael Perry.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
Justin I admire your work whilst not always agreeing with your conclusions. I think perhaps that you have a minor deficiency in your understanding of the the old Communist Party. "It’s like the Communist party after the signing of the Hitler-Stalin Pact – brain dead hand-raisers without an ounce of life or intelligence among the lot of them." You can easily put this right by getting hold of a book by a Black World War Two veteran who signed up with the CP on being discharged from the army. Nelson Peery has written "Black Radical", which gives an excellent account of the party's post war years. This bloke is a national treasure.
pwi
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
“President Obama We love you but we need to tell you! Your hands are getting bloody!! Stop it now.”
That is classic! Says it all. I wonder how she will vote in 2012?
Lloyd G.
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
The Romans quieted dissent with bread and circuses. The Democrats buy quiet with promises of gov't freebies.
Hacklheber
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
So what are you implying? Spit it out!
pwi
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:20 am
To much faith in Ron Paul and his "movement". The next elections may sweep out many incumbents, particually Democrats, but it won't likely sweep in a slew of "anti-war" Ron Paulers.
Republicans might be back, but Republicans perhaps more like the Reagan days than the Bush days.
To much faith in Ron Paul. Just be ready to be dissapointed. I'm sure the "anti-war" movement is no stranger to dissapointment.
epppie
March 22nd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
You are so right, and you make an essential point. On the other hand, we need to consider what would happen of Obama gave a rally in DC, or Springsteen gave a concert , or there was a football game. This issue isn't only means. It's also motivation.
epppie
March 22nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Wake up. Justin's (correct) point is that the old Democratic Party, which at least made some effort to enact social welfare policies, is dead and gone. The only freebies are going to the Corporations these days, and they are going from both parties to the corporations.
epppie
March 22nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
This is a great article. How tragic it is that the Left itself is unwilling to do the kind of criticism for itself that Justin is generously offering to us for nothing. But this is telling, too. It reveals the Left as a fad, as something meant for the 'mirror', not for the real world.
I had convinced myself that, somehow, over the course of this year, the Obama bandwagon would fall apart. And, actually, it did. But each time it reconstituted itself. How? Somewhat amazingly, the glue used to put Obama's Humpty-Dumpty Wagon together again, over and over, is the same glue the Dems have been using for years: whenever the Left becomes restive, just draw scary pictures of the Right Wing. That dries the witless, child-like sheep right into the fold. For the shearing or the slaughter. It's blatant, it's obvious, and we on the Left fall for it over and over and over again. Nothing unites like mindless fear, it seems.
But we must look a bit deeper to try to understand the weakness of the Left, the pathetic childishness of the left. Yesterday, the Dems passed a health 'reform' bill that is an abomination. This was the final defeat for the Left, a final crushing blow to those who opposed corporatist dominion. Kucinich folded. Progressive sites folded. Principles turned to mush, and those holding onto principles were derided, ironically, as not being 'serious', not being 'adult'. To be principled is now to be stigmatized and marginalized on the 'left'!!!!!!!
And yet, there IS a principle at stake in this health debacle. Faced with the problem that many to most Americans did not have adequate health coverage, what did the oligarchs and their technocrats come up with as a solution? Why it was the brilliant idea of simply FORCING the idiots to buy insurance! The idea fundamental to the 'solution' is that poor people are idiots who have to be forced to do what's good for them. This was the principle that the entire Left bowed down to.
It's unmistakeable now. The Left isn't about compassion. It isn't about social responsibility. It's about CLASSISM. On issue after issue we've seen this. Demos in Iran are laudable because their participants are upper middle class. Demos in Honduras are iggy'd because they are poor. No one ever says that outloud of course. It's just obvious.
In other words, the Left never was the Left. We must recognize that Liberalism has always been a political philosophy of the upper middle class. In America, the upper middle class is losing numbers, but gaining power. Liberalism is showing its true nature, as a political philosophy of privilege, NOT a populist philosophy. In fact, as you point out, Justin, there is a massive pool of populist frustration out there, just aching for political options. But that pool is made up of middle class, lower middle class and poor. That's all quite icky to the Left, even to those lefties who themselves are poor. They imagine themselves to be amongst the elite.
Will the Left rise again? I think it will. I think it HAD to die, because we needed to get rid of the Liberals. I don't mean the sincere and principled ones like Greenwald, but the ones who are obsessed with class and privilege, however much they may pretend otherwise. Their concern over the 30 million uninsured that Obama will supposedly take care of was telling. Those people were used as human hostages to pass an awful bill, but that did not trouble the classist FauxGressives, the fake lefties.
Now that the fake Left has been revealed for what it is, new leadership will arise. The Left will be back, stronger than ever, and while we may not agree with the Libertarian Right, we WILL engage, because no one can ignore the fact that we do agree on some very essential issues.
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Shirley Allan
March 22nd, 2010 at 2:14 pm
I am Shirley Allan, the one who held he sign saying President Obama we love you, but your hands ar getting bloody!! The author of this article is so wrong about my motives and my intentions. I was speaking to the the love Obama cult, just as I was speaking to Obama, you pundits are very arrogant to think that you know everything that is going on with everybody. Maybe you should have had a chat with me ask me what I was thinking and I would have gladly told you.. The Few lines that AP printed in all what I said to them, does not provide enough for you to get into my brian!
Muggles
March 22nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
"The Few lines that AP printed in all what I said to them, does not provide enough for you to get into my brian! "
We'll just have to thank the AP for that small favor.
Shirley Allan
March 22nd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Voting in America has become very agonizing, we must vote for one of two evils!! We have three choices. vote for evil # 1, evil #2, or don't vote at all! When we think we are voting for the lesser evil, we eventually find out that they are six in one, half a dozen in the other! Becaue the people we vote for are not in control! The very same evil master controls ALL of them.
Thomas T.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:01 pm
O = W
Jaime
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:47 pm
That a populace whose cheers made it possible for the Empire to invade and destroy countries like Iraq remains basically silent in the face of continuous warfare is a shame. Whatever American people may say, they are no different than anybody else in the world, and they are probably worse. The Third Reich's citizens said, "We didn't know" when asked why they hadn't done or said anything before the Holocaust. Probably that was true in many instances. Can Americans say the same thing? How will history judge them? Moral fiber, I guess, is not something you can buy at the supermarket nor acquire it while you munch your chips watching CNN or Fox.
charles caruso
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
The peace movement is dead because it's controlled by supporters of a certain Mideast power that loves the wars, and even wants another one.
And if Rahm Emanuel wanted to get involved in the first Gulf War why did he link up with the Israeli army?
And is it true that Clinton asked him to leave the White House because the FBI told Billo that Rahmbo was being investigated as a security risk?
Hmmm. Interesting if true, as Gertrude Stein used to say
And now Emanuel's running the White House as Obummer, Hillarious and Bidet stay on the road.
DavidSpero
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Justin is so wrong about Obama's election sinking the antiwar left. The movement had shrunk to a diehard core before anyone had heard of Obama. The reason is that we had no effective strategy or tactics. We put a million people in the street; politicians and media ignored us. So people stopped coming out.
It's true that Obama has co-opted a large number of "progressives" and "liberals." This will make it harder to revitalize the antiwar movement, but it was already moribund before O got here.
OTOH, I think Justin is totally right about the energy of the working-class right, as reflected in the Tea Parties. Serious Leftists need to reach out to those folks, and vice versa. Even then, though, the people's power to affect the MIC and the financial gangsters is unclear. IMO, the police state is already here.
marko
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Shirley Allan -
There are going to be some snarky comments to you about your sign. People are scared and desperate. Things are going way wrong and the man who promised "change" turned out to be as big a liar and as bloody minded as all his predecessors. Some of us knew it would be like that, others are shocked. At least you were there at the protest, which is more than pretty much anyone who responds to you can claim. Perhaps what wasn't so clear when you made your sign is that when you say of Obama "we love you" you are including yourself, which puts you in the group the writer was referring to. You say you were reaching out to the Obama cult (which is a good idea), yet you included yourself with them with your "we", so where does that leave you? Do you love him or not? Your sign sounds like you do. Right or wrong, that's what people go by. I do not have any love for someone who is "getting blood on his hands", especially in my name and with my money, and after allowing voters to perceive him as different in some way. I have no love for a leader who enables the indiscriminate killings of innocents abroad (via predator drones, in this case) while claiming to be a friend to "every man woman and child in the whole world" (in Obama's words), even as one of his drones was attacking a home and killing the women and children of a family in Pakistan. Those are not well-intentioned errors. Those are not mistakes. Those are crimes. War crimes. War crimes that the United States once proudly prosecuted but now either lamely tries to justify or just plain ignore. So do you love someone who at the very least permits and enables war crimes? In my view and that of many others at this site there is no justification for those criminal acts, and there is zero tolerance for them here. That is the philosophical difference between the sentiment of your sign and the attitudes at this site. That said, you absolutely have my respect for actually getting out there and raising your voice.
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Shirley Allan
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Marko,
visit my website at http://www.samadas.talkspot.com "tell the children the truth" You will get my perspective from the body of what I have been writing instead on coming to your conclusion on AP two lines and my slogan on my sign! But I agree it one could easily see it the way you and the author of the above article see it. I was one of the very few cautious Obama supporters, I was not part of the Obamamania because I expected no different.
Strangely enough my placard more than anything could get a pulse of what the people thought… You will not believe the number of people who stopped me, took pictures of my placard because they said it expressed their sentiments exactly! Of course some others also said that President Obama's hands were not getting bolldy, they were already bloody even before he got elected. I am glad I came out with this placard.. But the other side of it was even more interesting, unfortunately most people were more interested in the side the said " President Obama we love you, but we MUST tell you that your hands are getting bloody.. Wish Mr. Romano had seen the flip side of my placard.
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Jacques
March 22nd, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Our masters in DC will soon show their true colors – the 2010 elections are going to be "postponed."
Some off the wall "emergency" will be invented or staged, and "for the good of the country" the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November will be just another day.
They don't fear being tossed out of office, because their seats are secure.
May we wear our chains lightly.
dsmith
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:21 pm
The best way to hold these bastards accountable is to bring a class action lawsuit against Bush/Cheney and their regime, such as the Iraq War Group ( the inside white house group who thought up ways to "Sell" the war), along with Doug Feiths "Lie Factory." In any lawsuit where damages due to negligence or fraud can be proved, hefty damages can be claimed.
Just in the few books I have read, and daily scanning Anti-War.Com, there is evidence that the invasion of Iraq was a complete and knowing fabrication. Think of bringing a lawsuit for wounded soldiers and a lawsuit on behalf of soldiers who gave their lives in this bogus war. Maybe if a civil suit was won, let's say to the tune of one trillion dollars, which would be split up between the wounded and parents/loved ones of those killed, I think you might be able to go on and file a criminal suit against Bush/Cheney/ Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and the rest of the oh so smart group of neocons who think they have gotten away with one of the biggest scams ever perpertrated in history.
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jackbootstate
March 23rd, 2010 at 4:20 am
"The hate-Bush crowd has quickly morphed into the love-Obama cult of personality, and the so-called progressives have deserted the antiwar movement in droves. Our multiple wars just aren’t an issue inside the Democratic party…."
Nothing I was expecting after Obama won the election.
The left can't even unite among itself, so it seems like day dreaming to talk about a left-right alliance among anti-war forces to fight for a withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Of course, this needs to be done, but I highly doubt it will as long as Obama is president. It's hard to get liberals off their asses on this issue as long as there is a Democrat in the White House.
Jeremy Sapienza
March 23rd, 2010 at 4:29 am
Brilliant comment.
KSB29
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:02 am
"Our masters in DC will soon show their true colors – the 2010 elections are going to be "postponed." "
I highly doubt that. Elections are the last peaceful control that state has left. So long as the people have hope that some day maybe maybe maybe a vote might go their way they will keep sinking their spare time and money into political campaigns.
Marx once called religion the opiate of the masses. He was wrong. Elections are.
John
March 23rd, 2010 at 2:37 am
A great column – another contribution to the Great Realignment slowly but relentlessly taking place in our political life.
We have but a single party which we should begin to call The Ruling War Party -with its two divisions, Democrat and Republican. When oh when will we toss them both aside? It is far past due.
We live in a land of enormous wealth which ordinary people and entrepreneurial geniuses built together. Now we are ruled by a class of arrogant parasites commanding the financial sector who divide us into the trivial categories of Republican and Democrat and hence lord it over all of us.
Time to put an end to their rule. Where oh where are the tumbrels we need so badly?
jw
Eric Siverson
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
1q
-+Jaime I really dont think many of the american people know the political facts of anything . No doubt the German people supported the nazis . Only difference now is , the United States has a better propaganda machine . If it is true that you can fool some of the peole all of the time ? and all of the people some of the time . We should not expect to much from a democracy ! The Russians have finally passed us politically . Russian leaders can clearly see the future they say , but their past is what keeps changing .
Mhstahl
March 23rd, 2010 at 11:30 pm
When did a "protest" ever do anything? Marching is not the key-rather it is a catalyst for a shift in social consciousness. It is culture that causes major change-and it happens essentially voluntarily. i would suggest that you might do as much good buying an anti-war song, movie, or book and recommending it, than showing up at a march.
Not that marches are not important-but they are certainly not the only thing.
I don't think that the pessimism is all that well founded-leftists don't have a fundamental philosophical issue with the use of force, therefore war has only ever been a political issue for them. With the shrill noise gone, it might be easier to reach that Middle America that Justin mentions. Remember, the neocons started out as leftists-left and right anti-war movements never have been a star-crossed pairing.
Henry_Clemens
March 24th, 2010 at 1:29 am
Whether the government is controlled by Democrats or Republicans, it simply makes no diffrence. It makes no diffrence because the two major parties are totally controlled by Wall Street. Through them, Wall Street now totally controls the central government. Washington is Wall Street and Wall Street is Washington. Even though a majority of Americans oppose the endless wars, illegal immigration, the exportation of millions of good-paying jobs, billion dollar Wall Street bank bailouts and so-called national healthcare legislation, the legitmate desires of the American people are totally ignored and the illegitimate desires of Wall Street are always pushed forward and become official policy. The time to appeal to the central "government" for a return to sane, rational, and constitutional foreign and domestic policies is over. The only solution remaining to the people is this: SECESSION! This could be accomplished by individual states or groups of states. If Americans ever hope to again be free, prosperous and secure in their rights and property then we will have to secede from the Wall Street-controlled American Corporate Empire.
MoT
March 26th, 2010 at 4:03 am
Indeed, Henry. You can't fix "stupid", or in this case, "evil". Time to put an end to the experiment and forge a new coalition of willing states that say enough is enough to the madness. Should DC come to its senses and give up the power grab and be put back into the Constitutional sand box… which I highly doubt they would ever allow, then we could see a coming together again, but until that time why allow yourselves to be abused by these bastards over and over again. That's not just crazy it's SICK!
Wyattearp
March 30th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
The only EMPIRE you folks need to worry about is the RESURGANT OTTOMAN CALIPHATE! you surrender monkeys are aiding and abetting the ISLAMO-FASCISTs. You will turn the USA into a province of KRAPISTAN. enjoy!
WYATT
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