That 56 percent of all Americans "think the federal government’s become so large and powerful that it poses an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens" isn’t really all that surprising. After all, ever since the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the government’s "right" to read our e-mails, seize our property, hold us as "enemy combatants," and otherwise trample on the Constitution has been expanding at an exponential pace. What’s really shocking, however, is that, according to this CNN-Opinion Research Corporation poll, released on Feb. 28, most of the people who believe this are overwhelmingly … Republicans. That is, they are self-described supporters of the very same party which impaled the Constitution on the sword of the "war on terrorism." According to the poll, "only 37 percent of Democrats" believe this, as opposed to "63 percent of Independents and nearly 7 in 10 Republicans."
Is it just me, or was it only yesterday that the Democratic base was outraged by "Bushitler," and the "Cheney-PNAC" alleged neo-fascists who were taking over the country and driving dissent underground? How quickly they turn!
Adding to the irony, the poll was taken on the same weekend the extension of the PATRIOT Act passed the Democratic-controlled Congress – without debate, without a peep of protest from the "progressives" in Congress, and disguised as a vote in favor of a Senate amendment to the Medicare Physician Payment Reform Act. Bravery is not something we see much of in Washington, D.C. As one blogger put it:
"So, if you heard the news of a Patriot Act vote, and went looking for the roll call, you wouldn’t find it. You’d see roll call # 67 for this year, but would reasonably conclude that the vote is thoroughly unrelated to the Patriot Act. If you hadn’t heard of the Patriot Act extension, and just wanted to see what legislation had been voted on yesterday, you would come away still ignorant of what the House of Representatives had actually done."
The shamefaced Democrats are too cowardly to openly acknowledge their contribution to the destruction of the Constitution: instead, they’re hoping we don’t notice more Democrats than Republicans voted for the extension of this odious Act. At one point, the Dems were hinting that they might want to "reform" the Act, and put in certain "privacy protections," but they soon gave that up and now their media amen corner is busy demonizing "anti-government zealots" who dare to question the ongoing government takeover of … practically everything.
Keith Olbermann is still going on about how many days it’s been since George W. Bush declared "Mission accomplished!" in Iraq – even as President Barack Obama’s generals warn that we’ll still be stuck in that particular quagmire well beyond the withdrawal date supposedly set by their commander-in-chief. Not only that, but Obama is fighting a secret war in Pakistan, continuing the previous administration‘s war on our civil liberties, and extending its tentacles into every aspect of American life – yes, even our health care.
The "PATRIOT" Act, all several hundred pages of it, was passed in the dead of night without being read, without being adequately debated, and with the full official approval of both parties, who unhesitatingly wiped out two-hundred years of constitutional law in a procedure that lasted for less than an hour.
“The president’s reversal on Patriot Act reform is a major travesty,” says Michelle Richardson, the ACLU’s legislative counsel, a bit of phraseology that just about sums up the first year of Obama’s reign. All those liberal hearts, broken by that seductive love-’em-and-leave-’em Chicago smoothie – except no one’s complaining.
The Associated Press reported the vote in terms that can only be described as odd:
"Democrats have retreated from adding new privacy protections to the nation’s primary counterterrorism law, stymied by Senate Republicans who argued the changes would weaken terror investigations. The proposed protections were cast aside when Senate Democrats lacked the necessary 60-vote supermajority to pass them."
The Democrats have … retreated? Since most of them voted for the "PATRIOT" Act to begin with, I wouldn’t exactly phrase it that way.
As the Democratic majority gets ready to ram an immensely unpopular "health-care reform" bill through the Congress without a "super-majority," one can only wonder at their priorities. Is it really more important to force poor Americans to buy insurance they can’t afford than it is to save our constitutional liberties from being crushed underfoot?
Apparently so.
Passed in a time of "emergency," and touted as a temporary measure, the "PATRIOT" Act has, like all such measures, become routine: part and parcel of the legal-political landscape, which no one really questions. The "right" of the government to impound our records, seize our property, jail us, fine us, and haul us before a military tribunal – all of this has now become "normal."
Did you know that a recipient of a "National Security Letter" – say, your Internet provider – must not only hand over all records, documents, and what-have-you to the Feds, but must also refrain from talking about or otherwise revealing the existence of the letter? Just like they can simply take you in the dead of night, throw you in a cell– and, yes, even torture you, if they feel like it – and no one need ever know.
Accepting this as a fait accompli is now "normal" in Washington, D.C. No wonder the majority of Americans consider the federal government a dangerous enemy – and they’re all too right about that.
The question is: what do we do about it? Here’s where the confusion comes in. While there are many indications that Americans are waking up to the main danger to their liberty and livelihoods – a danger that doesn’t reside in a cave somewhere, overseas, but right here in the good ol’ US of A – the political class in this country is deeply ensconced, and won’t be pried out of power with a crowbar. It will take something with a lot more explosive power.
No, I’m not talking about an ordinary bomb – violence would only embolden them. I’m talking about the debt bomb, which is scheduled to go off in the very near future. We won’t have to defeat the army of federal occupation militarily – because they’re about to go bankrupt. Just wait until they can’t pay their SWAT teams, their Homeland Security goons, their multitudinous minions in every snooping federal agency: do they imagine that these people will stay on out of loyalty or ideological fervor? Or out of "patriotism"? Well of course they don’t imagine that, which is why, these days, they’re notably nervous.
This nervousness pervades elite circles in this country, and is expressed in a peevish impatience with any sort of dissidence, on any subject: if you fall out of line, they swat you – and you stay down, if they can help it. The tea-partiers, the antiwar protesters (such as they are), the stray politician who dares speak truth to power – anyone who expresses an opinion deemed outside the very narrow range of the permissible is automatically attacked as a "extremist," a dangerous "radical," and very possibly a potentially violent person whose every move is rightfully being mapped by the authorities.
Intersecting with this skittishness is an impending sense of economic and social crisis. Real fear, such as we haven’t experienced in a mass way since 9/11, pervades the air: an entirely justified fear of an economic collapse. Last year, when the banks trembled on the edge of a very steep precipice, lawmakers were told "in private" that if the bank bailout wasn’t passed, "there would be martial law in America," as Rep. Brad Sherman (D-California) revealed on the House floor. "Now that’s what I call fear-mongering," said Rep. Sherman, but in my view this wasn’t a bluff. In the midst of an economic collapse, an "event" in which the stock market drops by, say, 5,000 points, and there’s a run on the dollar, as Ron Paul predicts, I don’t think there’s any question but that the authorities would immediately impose martial law.
In Ayn Rand’s classic novel of American decline, Atlas Shrugged, a giant oak tree stands on the property of the heroine’s family estate: it had been there as long as she could remember, towering over the landscape like a living monument to stability and continuity. One night during a thunderstorm the tree – an oak – was struck by lightning. When she came out to the charred scene in the morning she saw that the tree had split open, revealing nothing but a hollow shell.
I’m afraid this is precisely what will happen if – or, rather, when – economic lightning hits our brittle society: it is likely to shatter and reveal the vast emptiness that has taken over where the American character once resided. As Rep. Paul points out in this video, rather than resisting martial law, the American people in their majority will probably demand it.
That will mark the end of the American experiment, as we knew it. The vision of the Founders will go down in history as a tragic failure – one that took an awful lot of people down with it.
If this is not to be the future, then where are the mass protests against the reauthorization of a totalitarian Act such as hasn’t been seen in this country since the Alien and Sedition Acts? Where are the liberals? Where are the old-style conservatives? Where is the America I once knew – the America of the Founders, a cantankerous and quarrelsome lot, whom no tyrant could tame? I fear we have become a decadent and fatally corrupted people, for whom the Founders are those guys with funny wigs, slave-owners who wouldn’t let women vote, with a lot of strange, anti-social ideas, like Jefferson’s Tim McVeigh-ish belief that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
A few liberals, like Glenn Greenwald, have spoken out, but their numbers only underscore the underlying silence: a few conservatives of the old school have raised their voices in protest, but they, too, are isolated, and are, in any case, ignored by their fellows on the right, at least those in the GOP, who vehemently support the "PATRIOT" Act and all the rest of the Bush-Cheney era legislation aimed at subverting the Constitution.
"Oh Obama, you silly neocon!" japed Ryan Mauro over at Frontpage, and for once I have to agree with (yikes!) David Horowitz:
"Sometimes partisanship and heated debates makes us forget how little has changed and how little really divides the two parties when it comes to national security. The rhetoric was changed and the policies had to be repackaged, modified a little bit to better fit the administration’s own beliefs and political promises, but what’s actually being done has changed very little. Policies, like celebrities, need to be reinvented to stay with the times.
"Case in point: President Obama has just signed a one-year extension of the Patriot Act.
"The entire legislation wasn’t preserved, though—so surely it was refined to limit its violations of civil liberties, right? Think again. As The Associated Press reports, ‘Thrown away were restrictions and greater scrutiny on the government’s authority to spy on Americans and seize their records.’ Oh, snap!"
I’m unsure as to whether "Oh, snap!" is meant approvingly, but no matter. The point is that this is "change" the neocons can believe in. And while the anti-Obama market is too lucrative for Horowitz to give it up, others are not so "principled." David Frum, whose own security prescriptions go way beyond the "PATRIOT" Act, has lately been urging his fellow conservatives to go a little easier on Obama, and urging compromise on economic matters – because what the neocons really care about is foreign policy and civil liberties questions. As long as we have an all-powerful surveillance state, which is waging war on multiple fronts at all times, the David Frums of this world are happy.
I hope the folks over at the David Horowitz Center for Freedom, or whatever it is his outfit is called these days, are confident that the power they would grant the Obama administration will never be used in a way they would come to regret – say, against them. But don’t worry, David: when they come for you and lock you up in a reeducation camp, we’ll spring you – you know, like your former buddies in the Weather Underground sprang Timothy Leary.
Aside from neocon loons like Horowitz, I think a lot of "progressives" would readily support the imposition of martial law in an "economic emergency" – as Rahm Emanuel would say, "Rule one: never allow a crisis to go to waste." Can’t you just hear certain self-righteous "progressives" (not liberals) justifying censorship, a ban on public gatherings, or other assaults on our constitutional rights, on the grounds that certain speech and nonviolent action is "divisive," "hateful," and a threat to public order? I certainly hope conservatives don’t learn to value civil liberties the hard way, but if that’s what it takes, then so be it.
By then liberals will have already forgotten that particular lesson – and the ideological spectrum will undergo yet another re-polarization, where left becomes right, right becomes left, and the cycle starts all over again….
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





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Bill Hicks
March 1st, 2010 at 8:08 am
We are in a post politics world now. Remember, history ended some time ago.
Your continued focus on left-right fills me with nostalgia for a kinder, gentler sort of America.
Face it, there is only one party.
They control our reality. (or at least they want us to think so)
We are up against a criminal, global syndicate and are just now feeling its brutal grip on our throat, right here, in the Homeland!
"Where is the America I once knew – the America of the Founders, a cantankerous and quarrelsome lot, whom no tyrant could tame? I fear we have become a decadent and fatally corrupted people"
Unfortunately, the tentacles of this criminal network reach very far. Web sites are increasingly managed by off-site disruptors that crush debate. I know that certain topics are off limits on most public forums.
Even at Antiwar, you vehemently shy away from addressing 911. Investigating the event that triggered all this suffering is strongly discouraged here.
Why is that, Justin?
Best of luck to you, making a living out of the Empire's collapse. Not many of us civilians will be able to.
UtopiaNow
March 1st, 2010 at 9:11 am
Great article. Why is Paul Craig Roberts no longer on Antiwar.com?
Read his latest article here:-
http://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?a=107519
Mega
March 1st, 2010 at 9:12 am
A thoughtful post by Elaine the first comment above. However I disagree with her on Justin Raimondo as an ally. Raiomondo is vehemently "free market" capitalist. Capitalism is at the very core of the national security state in this country. He refuses to accept the consequences of the brutal system and the increasing injustice it spawns.
The massive unemployment, the unaffordable medical insurance, the credit card industry and their gangster capitalism interest rates. Complete destruction of the Appalation fresh water system by mountain top mining. Fracturing for gas that causes water supplies to ignite.
Than Raimondo attacks socialist allies like Chavez who have shown the way in throwing off the yoke of US imperialism. Raimondo in my view is part of it and an enemy to the grass roots movement for justice for the majority poor of the world.
Mega
March 1st, 2010 at 9:25 am
The point whether Justin Raimondo can be some kind of ally in the anti war struggle is a mute subject in any event as there is almost no grass roots organization of the Ron Paul libertarian movement against the wars in the middle East. He would be a leader of no one.
Mega
March 1st, 2010 at 9:51 am
And Justin Raimondo and Ayan Rand have some strange ideas about what constitutes justice in
Latin America.
Hacklheber
March 1st, 2010 at 10:04 am
That's because you confuse "capitalism" and something more along the lines of State-sponsored and nepotism-fuelled banditry. Even if everyone affixes the word "capitalism" to the latter, it really isn't. Even if everyone affixes the word "capitalism" to the latter, it really isn't.
http://mises.org/daily/4125 : "At root, the libertarian position is very simple and must be communicated in this way. It holds that people should not be allowed to commit crimes against one another. All of the talk about free markets versus market intervention, capitalism versus socialism, regulation versus deregulation, and so on, is just a disguised way of presenting the basic dichotomy between a society of criminals and a society of law. This is the essence of the battle."
Hacklheber
March 1st, 2010 at 10:04 am
That's because you confuse "capitalism" and something more along the lines of State-sponsored and nepotism-fuelled banditry. Even if everyone affixes the word "capitalism" to the latter, it really isn't. Even if everyone affixes the word "capitalism" to the latter, it really isn't.
http://mises.org/daily/4125 : "At root, the libertarian position is very simple and must be communicated in this way. It holds that people should not be allowed to commit crimes against one another. All of the talk about free markets versus market intervention, capitalism versus socialism, regulation versus deregulation, and so on, is just a disguised way of presenting the basic dichotomy between a society of criminals and a society of law. This is the essence of the battle."
Miguel D'Aztalan
March 1st, 2010 at 11:38 am
Because he does not believe in fairy tales.
i.e. the official 9/11 narrative.
Ira7Epstein
March 1st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
You are about to be attacked by thousands of Randbots. It is Eddie Willers who regrets the symbolic fraud of the oak tree not Dagney Taggart.
Elaine Supkis
March 1st, 2010 at 6:11 am
Most of the Black Caucus voted against this bill. And yes, liberal Democrats nearly all voted against the Patriot Act, too. Everyone I knew personally in Congress voted against it.
Very few Republicans (Ron Paul, for example) voted against it. Several did this just to embarrass the President, not due to any desire for freedoms, etc. I hate it when people play the partisan card. Justin, you should be building bridges, not attacking allies. I actually listed at my own blog, the names of everyone who voted against. I suggest you do this, too.
And yes, Bomb Bomb Bomb Obama is definitely at fault here. But then, people want civil freedoms here while enslaving Palestinians or Afghanis. The polls don't delve into that business much. Torture is VERY popular with conservatives on the right (again, Ron Paul stands nearly alone in this matter).
Valerianus
March 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
The absurd flip-flopping of Republicans and Democrats on the issue of FedGov tyranny should come as no suprise to anyone. All of the Establishmentarians lust for unlimited power and only complain when the "other guys" have it and they don't. As for average Americans, they have gotten the government they deserve. A less virtuous people could scarely be imagined, and lack of virtue is an open invitation to tyrants. The American tyranny is reaping a rich harvest of victims, first and foremost abroad, but increasingly so at home. The only question is how much longer the rest of the world must endure the imperial tyranny of the United States before it finally collapses from its excesses. The soon to be horrendous travails of the American population will be callously – and deservedly – ignored, thanks to Americans lack of virtue.
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David E. Connolly
March 1st, 2010 at 6:51 am
I have, perhaps, never agreed more with an article, but I am confused about the political identity of the writer. He seems to identify with the "liberal" label, and I identify with the "conservative" label, and yet we agree on every point. Strange, the way people see themselves. It would be nice to galvanize around ideas that are "self evident," but the media, and politicians seem intent on keeping us apart. Maybe, together we might legitimately prevail over the entrenched interests of Washington?
Rod
March 1st, 2010 at 3:21 pm
hmm i see Justin is getting some heat for this , wow after all the hard hitting pieces he wrote on Bush, i mean he nailed the last adm and as soon as he hits Obama for pretty much the same thing some "anti war" people have thier say on capitalism lol he didnt even say anything about his other beliefs you intolerant people who may be pro war only if it serves your interests
full disclosure im not a big fan of Raimodo but i do read his stuff
A. Canova
March 1st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I believe that most House Democrats voted against the Iraq War authorization. In the Senate, almost half of the Democrats voted against it. The War Party can get whatever it wants with 95% of Republican votes and 50% of Democrat votes.
Obama is a terrible disappointment. The people who said in the primaries that he was not really "black" because he has no civil rights movement heritage were right. When he speaks of the civil rights movement – as in his speech on Martin Luther King Day – you can see that its an act; he has no identification with it. He even puts on a bit of a "negro dialect." His wife's family is so Ivy League gentrified (read "bought out"), in one generation.
Justin wants the antiwar movement to go out and march some more. My daughter was very involved in the antiwar movement in college. I will tell her to cultivate her own garden and work on her own opportunities as she goes into graduate school this fall. 25 tea partiers get more media attention than 10,000 antiwar people. Lets give up.
Tom Orrville
March 1st, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Thats a good Roberts column. We know more evidence-based operational details of the Dubai assassination squad than of the 9/11 attacks. For Dubai, we have evidence of forged passports and the legitimate holders of the passports in Israel; we have security videos from the airport, from hallways in the hotel, from the hotel front desk. We have videos of a man coming out of a restroom in disguise.
What have we got from 9/11? Video from Walmart and the airport in Portland Me – none of the hijacked planes departed Portland ME. Passenger manifests have never been released. Some "hijackers" are reputed to be alive. Adnan and Ameer Bukhari were initially reported as hijackers. One was found alive and the other had died a year earlier — clearly stolen identities were used or those names would never have been reported on 9/11.
As Roberts says, all we've got is the self incrimination of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed after he was waterboarded 183 times.
pwi
March 1st, 2010 at 4:54 pm
"What luck for rulers, that men do not think."
Adolf Hitler
Tom Orrville
March 1st, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Ron Paul is an ineffective leader if there ever was one. He got plenty of money and plenty of opportunity to talk on TV but he cannot get through that his message is against foreign interventionism. Ron Paul and his movement get lumped in with the dolts demonstrating against "Obamacare."
MoT
March 1st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Paul is an aberration. I've thought of him as one lone healthy cell within a diseased and cancerous body. Is he simply a "plant" on the part of the Republican party in order to let people vent and then have his "ideas" co-opted by the the very establishment that allows him to keep his seat? It puzzles me when you see how corrupt it all is.
Jaime
March 1st, 2010 at 5:12 pm
"Just like they can simply take you in the dead of night, throw you in a cell– and, yes, even torture you, if they feel like it – and no one need ever know." I wonder why these lines make me remember Solzhenitsyn's Archipielago Gulag, where people were taken in the middle of the night to the Lubianka to be tortured and eventually disappeared. In any case, Americans can only blame itself for this. For decades, they reminded us of our political and economic backwardness, but now a more terrible type of monster has upped it ante, that of dictatorship and even totalitarianism, and the US may be mature for that. I'm not happy about this happening to the American people, but I cannot forget their silence in the face of their government's deeds in Chile, Granada, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, and so on. Most of the American public didn't stop to think about all the suffering this all brought to the people in those countries. I guess they saw it as their country's duty to "civilize" others as if we we had asked for their kind of civilization. In most cases, however, it was a much more perverse kind of intention: economic and geopolitical domination.
MoT
March 1st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Very good post, Justin. I can agree to disagree on previous points on previous articles by you but this one hits the nail on the head because it is so self evident. Being a prophet is a lonely occupation often fraught with personal attacks. Sometimes you wonder if it's worth it. I do! Especially for my family and loved ones it's worth it. For freedom to ever be regained the Empire has to die.
epppie
March 1st, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Only 37% of democrats get it that both parties have crafted a fascist state? Nauseating. They were the ones screaming the loudest under Bush, but now they like the feeling of POWER, even if for most of them it is vicarious.
Nelson_2008
March 1st, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Don't forget, "we" actually had 5 of the Mossad cowards in custody over here. After being seen celebrating the 9/11 attacks, being subsequently apprehended, and then failing lie detector tests, however, they were released without explanation.
I guess in some countries like Dubai, treason isn't quite as commonplace as it is over here.
Next time the incompetent, baby-killing cowards want to murder someone, they should use their heads and lure the victim to one of their Anglo colonies like the U.S., where they can do whatever they want in broad daylight and just have their bought and paid for political whores cover it all up, like they've been doing for the last 60 years or so.
musings
March 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
What do you get in societies accustomed to the lash and the shackle? Why, you get dueling dictators. This is what we tend to despise about banana republics in the other Americas. We think of such societies as largely low-tech and ignorant.
But there has to be a new paradigm understood here. There's a memorable line from "Seven Days in May", uttered by the targeted President Jordan Lyman (Fredric March): (paraphrase) "It's a new age we're living in, the nuclear age." He's explaining the tendencies of those in the Pentagon to wag the presidential dog, out of fear for national security after the Russians acquired the same nuclear capabilities. You can agree or disagree with where he placed the emphasis of the blame for the attempted coup d'etat. But you have to admit that computers and the internet (arising out of defense purposes, including the DARPA and the ARPNET) mean huge changes for what can and cannot be kept private. This is a further step out past the nuclear age which has the potential to challenge hierarchies.
Recently, school children were watched using the laptops they brought home from school, with the kind of justifications dictators (even little school teacher type dictators) have used from time immemorial to violate personal rights to privacy.
The capability to observe, sort, control, etc. has increased. While the argument goes that this makes our little mercury beads of terrorists, rolling into the cracks of society, stronger if they are not watched, somehow they still wind up pulling off jihadist demonstrations whose causes are nevertheless traceable to our incursions into their home territories. It's debatable how many of their plans have been thwarted by spying on them. But in the meantime, ordinary Americans can also be followed without warrant, due to the Patriot Act.
The proposal to do full body scans a airports seems a stop on the way to the guillotine. But once you lose both pride and modesty, you're such a shell you won't mind.
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timothy price
March 1st, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Sweet article. The hope is for the economic destruction of the elite's support system, brought about by their own greed, and now by the intention of the rest of us to not use the system. The greatest tools we have are in telling the truth as loud as possible, everywhere and at all times. We have to out shout the media, the unrestricted corporate money, the words of the Congressmen, Governors, Mayors, and the whole lot of conspirators to our well being. Write to the paper (which will not publish it) and to NPR and PBS giving them hell. But make noise to embarrass them. Ridicule wealth, scorn vanity. Make them uncomfortable, really uncomfortable.
Phil Giraldi
March 1st, 2010 at 3:57 pm
I agree with Justin that the debt bomb is coming, but I do not welcome it because it will devastate the American people, who have naively supported politicians who have betrayed the nation, but who do not deserve what those selfsame pols have done to us. And the bomb will be selective. Medicare and Social Security will disappear but the security state will remain and will in fact become stronger as the politicians adroitly fearmonger. Whatever money remains will be used to keep the peasants from revolting and for congress it will be business as usual.
Tom Orrville
March 1st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
What is the one part of healthcare reform that will definitely pass? Eliminating the Medicare prescription drug donut hole.
There is plenty of government fat to cut besides the defense dept. that will get cut before Medicare and Social Security are cut but the defense dept. definitely should be cut. How absurd that we're spending 50% more to fight introverted tribesmen who just want foreigners off their land than we spent when our adversary was the Soviet Union.
Henry_Clemens
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:17 am
Mr. Hicks, you are correct. The preponderance of evidence leads to only one possible conclusion: 911 was an inside job. For those who would like to know more go here: ae911truth.org.
prystupnik
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:07 am
one can spout off on smith, mises, et al till blue in the face, but they are only apologists at best. The primary , and only foundation, of capitalism whatever the market will bear. And beyond that is "caveat emptor "
Henry_Clemens
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:28 am
Mr Giraldi, FYI, read this: http://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?a=107519 Thanks.
Henry_Clemens
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:28 am
Mr Giraldi, FYI, read this: http://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?a=107519 Thanks.
Nelson_2008
March 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 am
Here's how I see it: Zionists have basically "owned" the U.S. government for a long time. But their ultimate goal is to run the whole world. There wasn't too much they could do when the USSR was on the scene, but when the USSR went down, this opened up a window of opportunity.
If, with the USSR gone, the U.S. runs the world, and Zionists run the U.S., then Zionists run the world.
And running the whole world means never having to say "I'm sorry" after doing such things as a genocidal ethnic cleansing of the pesky inferior beings around you, etc.
In order to proceed, they needed a rationale for a massive U.S. military build-up, and they needed to get rid of the laws that would hinder the new militarism. Let's face it, you can't run the world from anything even remotely resembling a "Constitutional Republic". Thus PNAC, in essence, is a manifesto for the complete overthrow of the U.S. government (what little share of it we may have had).
And this is where 9/11 comes in, and their perfect puppet for phase 1 of the "transformation", George W Bush.
Matthew Stephen Rogers
March 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm
David google Libertarian and get back to us.
Jeremiah
March 1st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
I suspect Mr. Raimondo would identify himself as a *classical* liberal, a libertarian, and an "Old Rightist." I increasingly see myself in that light, too—altogether a rather lonely position to find oneself in.
If you have a chance, check out Mr. Raimondo's RECLAIMING THE AMERICAN RIGHT (1993; 2nd ed. 2008) for an intro to the "Old Right." Also, for an interesting—and somewhat contrarian—account of who is on the "Left" and who is on the "Right," see Jeff Riggenbach, WHY AMERICAN HISTORY IS NOT WHAT THEY SAY (2009). (The latter is available on-line: http://mises.org/books/historynot.pdf). Historically, all these labels of political identification have been pretty mutable. Sometimes—witness, for instance, the vicissitudes of the term "liberalism"—meanings are purposefully altered: a revolution within the form—or, if you will, *the word.*
This can all get pretty confusing and distracting—and, of course, it's meant to be.
eve
March 1st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Everyone on here should research the Bolshevik Revolution and discover who "truly" was behind it.
You will see similarities in this country, right now.
If you know you have cancer and do nothing to cure it, it will kill you.
Elaine Supkis
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:19 am
Justin, like myself, talks frequently about Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda because understanding this former CIA operative who got his connections via his family's very close relations with the Bush Clan who sucked Osama's father into the CIA when Bush Sr was in charge of the CIA in the early 1970's. That is, knowing the truth about 9/11 doesn't mean wiping out Osama's business.
I was first quite baffled when all the 9/11 stories about 'bombs in the buildings!' etc all popped up. Various groups online strove very hard to convince people there were no jets hijacked at all. Then, they had to wipe out Atta and his buddies from the story while focusing on the celebratory Israelis in New Jersey.
Inch by inch, all the TRUE involvement of the CIA and the Bushes (via bin Laden) have been wiped out by the so called 9/11 truthers and replaced with a whole facade of often utter lies and fantasies. This, in turn, has killed all momentum to investigate the Bush/bin Laden/Saudi Arabia connections within the CIA.
Henry Kissinger couldn't do a better job, killing off any investigations. AIPAC applauds all the 9/11 truthers for destroying the evidence of a crime. Justin R. knows that our ability to build a movement pulling in both liberals and libertarians into a common cause has been thoroughly shredded by the 9/11 truther online army. At one point, I began to suspect that DARPA launched this 9/11 garbage to bury the obvious trail leading back to Langley and Bush Sr.
So here we are: instead of having common cause, we have anger being directed to the very few people (like Justin here) who clearly see what is going on. Really tragic. Of course, nothing useful will be changed while we slide relentlessly closer to WWIII.
Oh, by the way, Justin….the foreign minister of Iran went to Hiroshima to deliver a speech about disarming ALL nuclear warheads! Didn't make the news here in the US but made the news in both China and Japan!
Chris
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:39 am
This just goes to prove that we just have one party, the war party in power. And this party will preserve any power it has stolen for, or granted to itself.
Why should the current "leff-wingers" give up all this nice coercive, fascistic power that Bush/Cheney left for them? How stupid that would be, in order to subdue ONES enemies with.
This intellectual bankruptcy is legion on the left, in the sixties they fought for freedom of speech, expression, freedom for the inidividual, against group think and preference, and as soon as they had the power, they quashed expression (think hate-speech, think PC, etc), they promoted group think and gourp particularism (think affirmative action, group representation, etc).
And so here too with PATRIOT. The thing that makes Democrat action worse than Repub action is that they claim to be different. And their followers are unwilling to see, or hew to another agenda.
Despite the odious racism. anit-semitism, et al, there ii is not for nothing why William Pierce sets the Turner Diaries in a Left-Fascist state: because he knew that this woudl be as evil as the more well known right-kind. Not that his solution is the answer, but that solitary point proves to be ever more true
Nelson_2008
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:56 am
Oh good, another person with all the answers! Being that you know the "truth", maybe you can help me? You see, I'd love to believe that 9/11 was planned and carried out by "Islamofascists" that "hate our 'freedom'", and not by the fanatical partisans of our "ally" Israel, aided by traitors in high places in the U.S. government, but there's a few stubborn things that seem to get in the way.
Maybe for a start you can help by providing a compelling counter-explanation as to what we're seeing in the following video? Thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoAD8HlrLZg
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March 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm
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Henry_Clemens
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 am
An honest examination of the evidence leads to only one possible conclusion: 911 was an inside job. The U.S. government used 911 as an excuse to justify the expenditure of trillions of new dollars for; endless war, vastly expanded intelligence agency activities, a new department of Homeland Security and several new legislative acts that effectively destroys the constutional rights of every American citizen and authorizes the POTUS to declare martial law at the stroke of a pen. Adolf Hitler and the Nazis (who were bankrolled by international bankers) burned down the Reichstag and blamed it on the communists. An extremely frightened German people seeking "security" then granted the German state and Adolf Hitler virtual dictatorial powers. History has repeated itself. Fascism (corporatism, as Mussolini put it) has come to America. For those who would like to know the truth and the facts concerning the evernts of 911, please go here: ae911truth.org.
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Hacklheber
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Caveat emptor is *always* the motto of the day. Always. Nothing in the universe can take that away.
>>one can spout off on smith, mises, et al till blue in the face, but they are only apologists at best
Such disappointment. I am pretty sure the **exact same phrase** was used more than once in beer halls of the Weimar Republic before it was sold out to a lowlife corporal. He certainly was not an apologist for anything, least of all capitalism. He fixed things pretty quick for sure.
""The businessman in Italy has as much influence as he has money to bribe the bureaucrats. Without cash you are a helpless subject of the State." The word "corruption" is not to be taken in the sense in which we normally use it in democratic countries. Under fascism, it is not primarily the power of money which corrupts, but rather does corruption spring from the power of the State. Whereas in democratic countries the businessman may use his money to influence legislation and public opinion and thus operate as a source of power and corruption, in fascist countries he can exist only as the subject upon whom State power operates. The corruption in fascist countries arises inevitably from the reversal of the roles of the capitalist and the State as wielders of economic power."
(The Vampire Economy, by Guenter Reimann (1939))
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March 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 am
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Alice Lillie
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Right now there is a Senator (don't know his name) who is being demonized about the issue of extending unemployment benefits. He is being described as someone who doesn't care how much people will suffer because of the cutoff of these benefits.
But, this Senator is *not even against* the extension of unemployments! In fact, he's all for it! He simply wants this to be paid for by taking funding away from something else or using unused "stimulus money" rather than creating money for it out of thin air!
He is being demonized this morning! Shows that no dissent, no matter how slight, is tolerated these days!
See my blog on monetary policy at my website.
Guest
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
So when the debt bomb comes, the Govt is going to continue paying out to Medicare, but will stop paying the military?!
What the heck are you talking about?
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Jeremiah
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Dr. Roberts actually had an article here a few weeks ago: http://original.antiwar.com/roberts/2010/02/09/us… I guess he's still here, then?
Jim
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Well, Justin, here's one liberal who hasn't shut up. I suggest you do something about your disdain, not just write. Here's an opportunity: confront John Conyers for voting "Yes" on Patriot Act reauthorization instead of using his position as House Judiciary Chair to institute reform. When? Tomorrow, 3/3 at 7 pm Eastern. Where? At John Conyers' appearance at an ACLU Forum in Hart Auditorium, 600 NJ Ave NW in DC. If you live in DC, speak truth to John Conyers' power. http://bit.ly/bbsCzY
If you live in the DC area, don't just complain online! Show up and let John Conyers know his behavior is unacceptable. Do it!
jojo
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Re: "The "PATRIOT" Act, all several hundred pages of it, was passed in the dead of night"
What is rarely never mentioned–it was so legal written that it MUST HAVE TAKEN months to prepare.
Guess what? one week after 911 attacks–ready 100 copies bound/printed and voted/stamped into Approval/power. When politicians were asked–did you read this or that?–Daaaaah!
Time to have term limits on all politicians. And not to offened the }sreal Firster nation–All elected politicians and government staff be 50% native indians.That will put justice in the brokenKoshersystem :^/
jeff davis
March 3rd, 2010 at 1:23 am
Because, for all his vehemence and economic insight, he's fallen victim to the "9/11 Truth" hysteria. Damn shame. Poof! Credibility gone. Well,… except with the Truthers.
Claire Littleton
March 3rd, 2010 at 1:37 am
Elaine,
Why go off on a tangent making the Bush family into bogey men rather than investigate and examine the physical evidence?
banned
March 3rd, 2010 at 2:35 am
Um, all property can be seized by the government, at any time. Anyone can be imprisoned without charges at any time. People are being tortured, as we speak. how, pray tell, would "martial law" be different than what we've had since 2001? Guys with spiffy uniforms marching down the streets? Bad science fiction. This is fascism. Fascism is now.
Henry_Clemens
March 3rd, 2010 at 3:31 am
And the only reason why this fascism is now being tolerated is because the economy hasn't totally collapsed. But when the value of the dollar goes to zero, and it will, the entire American economy will collapse and then there will be blood in the streets. Excuse me friend, but I'm now going to log off and say a prayer. I sincerely wish you and yours the best.
ann
March 3rd, 2010 at 4:54 am
Note on Ayn Rand: An infatuated admirer of an American serial killer who diced and sliced a 12 year old girl he held for ransom before dumping her parts before her father on a Los Angeles street corner. See William Hickman. Sociopath/Superhero circa 1928. Well, not to the majority of Americans, but to our little Ninotchka? Da!
Bastiat's Ghost
March 3rd, 2010 at 9:13 am
It's irrelevant whether 9/11 was an inside job or not. The regime is either A) complicit in the attacks and thus evil; or B) failed to prevent the attacks and thus stupid and incompetent. Either way the regime is less than worthless and should not be in power.
As for criticism of Raimondo's support for capitalism and the free market, I must wonder: have any of you actually read any Ludwig von Mises, Murray Rothbard, Walter Block, Lew Rockwell, Thomas Woods, Peter Schiff, F.A. Hayek, or my personal favorite: Frederic Bastiat? If not, then your understanding of economics is quite simply insufficient. A central bank and a central government are both essential components of the murder-industrial complex. Without those "power cores" the "machine" is unable to function.
You see the truth is The United States was doomed the moment the Articles of Conderation were revoked and the U.S. Constitution put into place. The Constitution itself is an elaborate fraud rife with loop holes and corrupting centralized power. Indeed the very reason why the Constitution was crafted was to prevent rebellion against the elite "founders" who wanted to establish a power of their own after removing the British Crown from the land. Watch some Howard Zinn on the subject:
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/1/8/howard_…
The cold, harsh reality is that central governments are never your friends, no matter how sweetly the parasites whisper in your ears as they suck the lifeforce out of your body. Read and learn:
That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen
http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html
The Law
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html
The Mystery of Banking
http://mises.org/Books/mysteryofbanking.pdf
I will be personally amazed if you can make it through all of that and still think that government rule (rule by violence and coercion at gunpoint) is your friend.
playadelucas
March 4th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
International mining and oil corporations instructed alan garcia president of peru to slaughter amazonian indians who oposed with sticks and arrows their land devastation docens of people died in a modern battle similar to thermopilas just one side had guns, all this in the middle of the swine flu crisis last year. It is clear: Americans still belive only in the mainstream media and dont pay attention to what really is going on….atlas shrugged,1984,network,2001 space odissey,wizzard of ozz,star wars ,matrix …describes the fears and sutil truth of american heart.
AlOliver
March 4th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I suppose that all the errors of the 8 year Bush Jr presidency should have been fixed in 1 year by Obama. Yeah, it's Obama's fault once again. He's moving too fast, he's moving too slow. How about all you neocons getting down on your knees and begging forgiveness for this gigantic mess that you brought about by your votes for Bush. And you did it twice!!
What? In this monumental fight to get health care passed, Obama is supposed to open up this other can of worms?
It just more diversionary tactics. But one by one, Obama is bringing the US back from the brink. But he can't undo 8 years of botched governing in 1 year.
Don't you guys think of this? And if not, why not?
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pat
March 4th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
It's amazing how many lunatics there are. If this was anything close to a dictatorship like Iran or China or any other country that the "left" seems to admire, you wouldn't be able to post any of these opinions. You would be put in jail for even suggesting the nonsense you are espousing. I don't expect anybody to realize how paranoid and delusional they are. Most of you are beyond help. But anybody who really believes this drivel, move to a country that you like better. Since this country isn't anything close to a dictatorship, you are free to leave anytime you want. Try that in Cuba or China or Iran and see how easy it is.
banned
March 4th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Tell that to the folks tortured to death at Gitmo. Oh wait, neither "pat" nor any of his pals have been kidnapped and/or tortured, so all is well in America! Yep, nobody will be left to argue for your rights when they decide they'd like a piece of your ass.
Bubba Jump
March 5th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Truly, I agree with Pat. I do not belong to this country, but have lived here for the last decade. Freedom of speech and expression is by far the biggest freedom this country provides. I cannot believe myself posting something like this on the internet about current administration and not blinding my windows and waiting for some official to show up with his goons to take me out. Yes there is a slight leaning in the past few years towards the government having the right to invade personal privacy, but if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear.
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bogi666
March 6th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Relying on Ayn Rand as an authority is just plain ignorant. The only good book she's written being "We the Living" a fictionized account of her family's escape from the USSR and Justine and the other Rand syncophants probably haven't even heard of it much less read it. Citing Rand while decring others is just ignorance, laziness and illiterate.
MoT
March 9th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
There will never be any investigation on BushCo and the Bin-Laden "connection" irregardless of where other people have their focus. Clearly we need to hear more about these nefarious dealings but they've been labeled "conspiracy" as well by the disinformation ministries AKA the mainstream media. In fact anything outside of the offical narrative have been branded as such and so, like I said earlier, we will never hear voices from the top that say anything otherwise.
MoT
March 9th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Very good. I agree with you 100% even if you're channelling Spooners ghost.
MoT
March 9th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
We mustn't let Billy Bob Clinton off the hook either.
MoT
March 9th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
The nothing to hide meme never seems to die. But it, like so much else, is a weak sister argument. You wouldn't mind dropping your drawers and having your dick examined now because some goon in a government issued costume accuses you of being a pedophile or rapist? Seriously! You haven't anything to hide so get after it and drop your shorts so we can examine you. Now that seems extreme but it only points out that like the frog in the boiling pan you get used to a slow gradual series of abuses until you're conditioned to accept those abuses as "normal". And who is to say that everything you're saying on the phone, typing, etc.. isn't, as we argue away, being collected for future use by faceless, nameless, goons to destroy you? How would you ever know? You wouldn't. But I suppose to some ignorance, like slavery, would be welcome.
dave
April 9th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Good post here defining the Patriot Act and its ability to impose martial law on the country. Obama has consistently mislead American’s about his intentions, one lie after another. Thanks for the post.