Obama’s War: The Reaction
The neocons and the war liberals are on board
I’m actually pretty surprised to see that many liberals and progressives are not climbing on board Obama’s war wagon – notably Rachel Maddow, who made a stinging criticism of the escalation by comparing the rhetoric of the Bush administration and that of the New Obama, concluding that the latter had adopted and even extended the essence of the "Bush Doctrine," the morally indefensible idea that we have to strike at targets that might possibly pose a threat to U.S. national security some time in the indefinite future. Her subsequent interview with counterinsurgency guru John Nagl, however, was strictly softball – but, hey, whaddaya expect. This is MSNBC, after all.
Speaking of which: in reporting the president’s escalation speech, Keith Olbermann was clearly embarrassed, like a father whose child has just crapped his pants in the middle of Walmart. His dispirited voice, the staged "debate" between lefty-blogger Cenk Somebody-or-Other and some Democratic Party "strategist"-cum-hack ("We can agree to support Obama while disagreeing about specific policies," announced Olbermann, somewhat too earnestly) – it was all very telling, not to mention hilarious.
A good number of Obama’s most enthusiastic cheerleaders are to be found on the neoconservative Right: we have David "Axis of Evil" Frum, who said we shouldn’t expect Churchillian rhetoric because it is not 1940 (what an admission for a neocon to make, surely a first!). National Review‘s editors agreed: "Churchillian it was not." Yet they endorsed the president’s policy prescriptions, for the most part, while disdaining his tone (not bloodthirsty enough for their tastes). Bill Kristol, one of the intellectual architects [.pdf] of the Iraq war, opined in the pages of the Washington Post that, despite the speech’s flaws – notably the mention of a "too cute by half" deadline for the beginning of U.S. withdrawal – he is over the moon that Obama has "embraced the use of military force as a key instrument of national power." The Weekly Standard editor cited an exchange between a reporter and a senior U.S. official who was asked about Iran’s insistence that the Obama surge in Afghanistan is the same as the previous Bush surge in Iraq. The official replied that Obama’s war is being fought to protect the U.S. and its allies: "It’s easy to understand Iran’s perspective perhaps that there is some continuity here in the U.S. policy. That’s because the interest is consistent." Avers Kristol: "’The interest is consistent.’ That’s the heart of the matter. It’s encouraging that Obama seems to understand this fact."
The essential continuity of American foreign policy in the age of Obama is something the neocons have been joyfully anticipating since the Dear Leader took office: recall that joint conference between the pro-Obama Center for a New American Security, the George Soros-funded Center for American Progress, and Kristol’s Foreign Policy Initiative, which celebrated what the participants presciently perceived as Obama’s hawkishness.
This continuity is not acknowledged, however, by Obama’s liberal supporters. Take a look at Bob Cesca, the Huffington Post’s bearded-progressive-in-residence, who starts off with the most familiar of the White House talking points: don’t be surprised, you knew this was coming – that is, you would have known if you had listened during the campaign, because Obama always said Afghanistan had to be dealt with, etc., ad nauseam. He goes on to write:
"The war in Afghanistan is like a terrible form of cancer. No one wants it, but I don’t know how we can avoid dealing with it without facing serious consequences. I don’t want an escalation. I don’t want more casualties. I don’t want more spending when Congress is being miserly on domestic programs. I want the thing to end. I didn’t even want it to start in the first place.
"Regardless, it seems as though the president’s announcement is a prescription for radical chemotherapy, complete with a start date and an end date. Vomiting, pain, and ugliness ensue, but with light – and perhaps a cure – on the horizon. I think."
To begin with, there is no "end date" – only a vague promise that a "drawdown" will begin by July 2012, and then only if "conditions on the ground" permit. Kristol, of course, wasn’t dumb enough to be taken in by that non-promise, but Cesca is, or, at least, he’d like us to think so.
So what are these horrifically "serious consequences" we’ll experience if we don’t all rush off to the Kandahar front? Well, for one thing, Pakistan has nukes that Cesca believes will fall into the hands of "the Taliban and others" who "shouldn’t be allowed to attain them." The whole thing, he says, is George W. Bush’s fault – of course! – since he didn’t "crush the Taliban," he "diverted" resources away from the Good War in Afghanistan, and, well, just because he’s one of those nasty Rethuglicans. But now that one of our guys is doing exactly what Bush did – and even using exactly the same fear-mongering tactics that got us dragged into the last quagmire – well, that’s okay by him.
Let’s deal with this ridiculous argument that if we don’t send in the Marines the "terrorists" will somehow steal away Pakistan’s nukes and explode them in the middle of Manhattan. To begin with, there are joint U.S.-Pakistani security measures in place that probably make Islamabad’s nukes more secure than many of our own domestic nuclear power plants. Secondly, we’ll have more than enough time to secure those nukes if the likelihood of an Islamist takeover in Pakistan looms large. Thirdly, if such a takeover ever becomes a distinct possibility, it will likely be because of deepening U.S. intervention, including military strikes on Pakistani territory, which will drive the population (or a substantial minority of it) into the Islamist camp. So the nightmare of bin Laden going nuclear could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The Huffington Post has become the trumpet of the Obama cult in the blogosphere, and on this occasion it doesn’t disappoint. Aside from Cesca, we have Professor Jerome Slater of SUNY Buffalo with what has got to be the most morally bankrupt rationale for war I have ever seen in print:
"Since the international, strategic, moral, and even the ultimate economic consequences of whatever we do are unknowable, we might just as well make the relatively more knowable domestic political consequences in the United States the decisive consideration. And that leads – at least for me – to one conclusion: the best thing for Obama, and for the Democratic Party, and indeed for the cause of liberalism in this country, would be to give the military what it wants (within reason), if the new troop commitments prove to be insufficient to turn the tide in Afghanistan.
"If the military gets what it wants and the tide turns in Afghanistan, Obama will get some of the credit; if it doesn’t, at least Obama and the Democrats can say they gave the armed forces what they said it needed. But if the military is denied and then we lose, Obama and the Democrats will get the blame, with electoral consequences likely to reverberate for many years. In the worse case, a Taliban-al-Qaeda victory followed by a massive attack on the United States, for years to come we can kiss good-bye to liberalism in this country, and maybe even to minimally rational foreign and domestic policies."
The "decisive consideration" in this argument, which Slater doesn’t explicitly acknowledge but which is glaringly obvious, is pure politics: matters of principle, morality, and the national interest don’t enter into his calculations at all (presumably because they are "unknowable"). In Slater’s view, it doesn’t matter how many Afghans we kill in the process, or how many Americans are sacrificed on the Obama cult’s bloody altar – all he cares about is ensuring Obama’s reelection prospects and the fortunes of the Democrats. And this profoundly immoral statement is made in the name of "saving liberalism"!
If this is liberalism, then it is a degenerate variety that has little or no relation to the original – and it deserves a speedy (albeit painful) death.
Traveling leftward, things don’t get much better. Over at the Nation, the usually clear-sighted Robert Dreyfuss claims:
"Contrary to some analysts on the left who see Obama’s plan as a Vietnam-style escalation, I see it as an unfortunate escalation feint while looking to the exit. Unfortunate, because a lot of Afghans (and quite a few Americans) will die in the process."
Yes, folks, escalation is withdrawal, war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance, my friends, is bliss. What can one say in the face of such willful blindness, except: Arrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!
The Obama cult, which was yesterday a
joke has become a serious
affliction, affecting "progressives" who seem to forget all their
touted principles, especially when it comes to the foreign policy realm, the
moment they conflict with the Dear Leader’s political agenda. Yes, it’s too
bad "a lot of Afghans (and quite a few Americans) will die in the process"
– but exactly how bad does it have to get before readers of
the Nation turn against their Dear Leader?
"No matter what the cable news people suggest," Cesca babbles, "this will never be ‘Obama’s War.’” Really? Then whose war is it? Cesca would say it’s still Bush’s war – talk about being in denial! The worst thing that ever happened to Cesca and his fellow progressives-without-a-clue was the election of Barack Obama to the U.S. presidency. Because that means they’ll be spinning, rationalizing, and whitewashing his every atrocious decision, no matter what it is, no matter how many war crimes are committed under his command.
In the days to come, there will doubtless be more examples of the new illiberal liberalism. I didn’t have space to deal with them all in this column, but we’ve got plenty of time. After all, we’re stuck with Obama for a few more years yet, and his cultists will no doubt come up with plenty of morally bankrupt rationales for his murderous policies abroad. That’s what you and I have to look forward to: years of wading through the "arguments" of contemptible hacks like Cesca, Slater, et al. So you’ll forgive me if I go lie down for a bit – I feel a headache coming on…
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
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ObamaKoolAidDrinker
December 4th, 2009 at 5:10 am
In other news, Barack Obama is scheduled to receive his Nobel Peace Prize next week in Oslo.
This will be a proud day for all Americans.
And an Orwellian–though hilarious–joke for everyone else.
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Dan
December 4th, 2009 at 10:54 am
"The Obama cult, which was yesterday a joke has become a serious affliction, "
Yes, the kool aid has fermented and they're frantically seeking clever hangover remedies. But the hangover isn't the problem and bullsh*t isn't the solution.
jojo
December 4th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Has anyone commented why EU (NATO) and the USA are determined for that oil line planned to be constructed in 2010.The m 30,000 troops are meant to protct the workers building that gas line to keep Europe warm next winters :^/
KSB29
December 4th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
"…and maybe even (say goodbye) to minimally rational foreign and domestic policies."
Oh, we said that a long time ago, around 1917.
What the author and others fail to take into account is that the 30,000 soldiers won't make a bit of difference if you can't even tell what defeat looks like, let alone victory. What happens when the glorious offensive fails to produce anything but a pile of corpses and a hefty price tag?
Meanwhile anger will build on the home front as Americans who are losing their jobs and homes look at the 1 million per head price tag for this blunder. Is it any wonder DC is sinking so much money into "non-lethal" and riot control gear these days?
fedupandsick
December 4th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I can't help but think where we would be if mccain had won. Any escalation would have been met with outrage from those who support obama's. On the other hand the old senile one would probably have started bomb bomb bomb….bombing Iran by now and we'd be knee deep in WWIII. I wish I could think how things woud be if Ron Paul had won. Not in this country.
FBastiat
December 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Written about Bush, this applies to his successor(s):
Military preemption — the "Bush Doctrine" — is nothing but global gun control. The Commander in Chief has turned the U.S. military into Handgun Control, Int. and intends to use it to disarm every rogue nation out there: first, Afghanistan; now, Iraq; next, Iran, North Korea, and God knows where else. And what about all the terrorist cells that don't provide us with an identifiable "Japan" to target? How will any of this prevent a monster from walking across our border and unstopping a jar of anthrax in a major city? How can we pretend that the military can disarm every rogue in the world any more than the police can disarm every rogue in the country?
You will notice, N., that the finding of no weapons of mass destruction hasn't been taken by the White House as a reason to bring our troops home. On the contrary, it's seen as a need to invent a new reason for their presence there: We must bring democracy, not merely to Iraq, but to the entire Middle East! Well, that's a good thing, right? No, not at all. N., we pay taxes for our Suffolk County police to fight crime here in Suffolk, not to go fight robbery in Cairo, rape in New Delhi, and murder in Berlin. It is no less a dereliction of duty for our national forces to do anything other than defend American lives and liberties.
frankNash
December 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Dear Friend
I was surprised to see that the Obama adminstration have adopted the Bush phylosophy bearing in mind that He just received the Noble peace price,
Mistake Number 1. You do not need an army to fight the terrorist(alkaida) which number around 1000 at the most .
The Taliban are the resistance party who were running the country before they were thrown out because they would not surrender their freind Osama Bin ladin and the payed the price for doing so . this war against afghanistan was a just war at the begening to catch those who attacked America but after 7 years and still unable to locate the mastermind (Osama bin Ladin) who was let off to disappear .Due to this failure the war goes on by having more than 120000 US soldiers and now the european are winling to send 7000 troops and already 10000 uk soldiers against the Taliban who believe that they are fighting for a right cause especially when it was revealed how corrupt are those who are in powerand are running their country.
Ali
December 4th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Despite its best efforts, the anti war camp in America is roundly defeated. The same goes for Europe. Our President Ahmadinejad, keeps saying that we are entering an age of nations and peoples, not governments. Well, so much for the American people. They are all for war. Nothing fires up their imagination more than war. Let's hope that the rest of the peoples of the world do better. They surely will. They have to. This world is much more important than America or Europe have ever been. It is too important and precious to leave it to parasite warlike culture of Europe and America.
rwe2late
December 4th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Cesca, Slater, Dreyfuss, el al leave little option but to conclude their opposition to Bush was based either on straight party politicking, or because they thought Bush was not pursuing the so-called "War on Terror" with enough vigor or clever tactics.
Now that their clever man Obama is in, they reveal themselves as closet imperialists, quite ready to defend jingoist policies.
andy
December 4th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
"Keeping Europeans warm". if there's a better reason for Americans to die, i'll be danged if i can think of it.
Henry_Clemens
December 5th, 2009 at 1:02 am
Let us be clear about one thing: the wars in the Middle East (Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan) are not Democrat wars or Republican wars. They are the American Ruling Establishment's (ARE) wars. They all were waged for money, power and empire. The American people can protest those wars until hell freezes over, but those protests will be in vain. That is because the entire federal government is now totally controlled by American Ruling Establishment (ARE). The ARE is composed of; treasonous politicians and bureaucrats from both major parties, the Pentagon brass, the CFR, the FED and the kingpins of Wall Street. They have been looting and enslaving the American people for decades. It is far too late to reform the federal government and roll back the tyranny that has all but destroyed our liberties, our property rights and our prosperity. The federal government is hopelessly corrupt; fiscally, morally and spiritually. In 1776, Americans found a solution for the tyranny of their times. It is also the same solution for the tyranny of our times. That solution is this: SECESSION! Think it, breathe it, live it and act upon it. It is our only hope.
Hacklheber
December 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
What? No. "Keeping Europeans warm" happens using gas pipelines going through the Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic Sea. Or coming in from the North Sea. And you cannot "construct a pipeline in year X". That's a multi-year effort. You are probably referring to TAPI, mean to ferry stuff from Turkmenistan to India by way of Afghanistan and Pakistan, bypassing Iran. Bit it ends up in India, which is not Europe.
Hacklheber
December 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
"the best thing for Obama, and for the Democratic Party, and indeed for the cause of liberalism in this country, would be to give the military what it wants"
THAT'S ULTRA!
Now I need a new keyboard.
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December 5th, 2009 at 8:44 am
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MoT
December 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
You're correct. A heft price tag and bodies are the "mission". To hell with anything else.
MoT
December 6th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
You make a point that I used in a debate with someone I used to think had an ounce of sense.. I stood by the premise we hadn't any business over there but he said, paraphrasing I am, "We pay for firemen and if there is a fire they put it out". I was stunned by the stupidity and the frankly matter-in-fact in which it was delivered to me. No… when I pay taxes for MY fire department I expect them to put out fires in MY town and not the neighboring state much less the other side of the planet. And on top of that when MY mayor/president is setting the fires! We call them pyromaniacs and in a "sane" world they would be put in jail or a mental asylum.
MoT
December 6th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
I said the same to someone here recently. When you have a lying, beating, cheating spouse that lies to your face repeatedly, for decades upon decades, and then says, "what you gonna do about it!" You can either divorce them – secession or snap and then kill them – revolution, but don't believe for a moment they'll ever reform if you come crawling back into bed with them. You are, and have proven to them, that you're a dysfunctional "sucker" who craves the abuse by engaging in further dialogue. Its only flowed one way… like shit tumbling downhill upon your head. So don't think they have any respect for you because they never will so long as you continue to submit.
MoT
December 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
In days of lore the King, Emperor etc. would, if it mattered at all, lead his armies in the defense of his kingdom. I always wondered why, if its so important that we bomb and kill some brown people on the other side of the planet, that our "leaders" didn't lead an assault or have their own children do likewise. I mean, well, it IS sooooooo important! Isn't it? No? Then nobody need volunteer for this great and shining lie and the liars who vomit these excuses upon the rest of us should be silenced.