9/11: Our Truth, and Theirs
The "official" 9/11 narrative doesn't make sense
On September 11, 2001, nineteen hijackers, wielding nothing more lethal than box-cutters, commandeered four airliners, and turned them into lethal missiles, three of which managed to hit their targets – the World Trade Center and the Pentagon – while a fourth crashed in a field before it could strike its intended target — the White House. One of the hijackers had been in the United States since the mid-1990s, and the others, according to subsequent investigations, entered, exited, and re-entered the United States regularly starting in 2000.
In the years and months prior to 9/11, the terrorists remained undetected: there was not a hint, and certainly no warning, that we were about to experience the worst terrorist attack in our history. In spite of all the billions spent on "anti-terrorism" programs during the Clinton years, and the combined efforts of our intelligence community and those of our allies’, Mohammed Atta and his cohorts managed to evade detection until the day they emblazoned their vengeance across the sky and pulled off the biggest terrorist attack in US history.
That, at least, is the official story. As to what the real story is – well, we’re not allowed to ask.
President Obama’s "green czar," one Van Jones, was recently pressured into resigning. His crime? He had once signed a letter originating with one of the "9/11 Truth" organizations calling for a new investigation of the terrorist attacks. No, he hadn’t declared that 9/11 was an "inside job," as some of the more flamboyant "truthers" assert: indeed, he hadn’t challenged any one specific aspect of the official story. All he had asked for was a new investigation – and once this got out (thanks to Fox News nut-job Glenn Beck), he was shown the door.
This is the way our society deals with uncomfortable questions about "official" explanations for the inexplicable – by purging all dissenters, and even anybody who asks a question without necessarily having a ready-made answer. To the stake with them! Burn the heretics! Move along, nothing to see here – and don’t ask questions unless you want to completely marginalize yourself, lose your job, and be subjected to an intensive hate campaign.
We are asked to believe that 19 men, armed with the most basic weapons, somehow managed to elude the biggest, most expensively-accoutered intelligence apparatus in the world — and the intelligence agencies of our allies, to boot. Utilizing nothing but box-cutters and the knowledge gleaned from a few weeks at flight school, these supermen somehow managed to steer those planes into two of the most visible potential terrorist targets in the US, one of which had been successfully targeted by terrorists before. They did this with no help from any foreign intelligence agency, no nation-state in on the plot, and they did it for less than $100,000.
Really?
The more distance in time from the actual event, the odder such an assertion seems. Eight years to the day, the official account of 9/11 seems more anemic –and inadequate – than ever. Yet anyone who questions the official story – the narrative of 19 Arab dudes going on what would seem to be a rather quixotic jihad, haphazardly making their way through a strange foreign country on their own, all the while readying themselves for The Day That Changed History – is denounced as a "conspiracy theorist," a crackpot, and worse.
Of course, some of the people who challenge the official story are, indeed, crackpots: they think some kind of "controlled demolition" took place inside the World Trade Center, and that no plane hit the Pentagon.
This is very convenient for enforcers of the Official Truth: it’s easy to write these people off as nutso, and even easier to tar everyone who questions crucial aspects of the approved narrative with the same broad brush.
More critical minds, however, will not be deterred, and will certainly home in on the many discrepancies and holes in the official version of events, as well as the central implausibility of the whole affair, which is this: those nineteen hijackers simply could not have pulled it off without outside assistance of some sort, by which I mean to say help from a foreign power acting covertly in this country. The sheer complexity of the operation would no doubt have been enough to deter anyone, even al-Qaeda, from launching it in the first place: the sheer odds against it succeeding were simply too great. There had to have been some form of outside assistance – outside al-Qaeda, that is – for the plot to have gone as far as it did right up until zero hour: and I believe there was, because there is plenty of evidence that strongly suggests it.
A few weeks after 9/11, I was the first – and, as far as I know, only – writer to draw attention to the fact that, along with the thousand or so Muslims rounded up in the wake of the attacks, as many as 200 Israelis were also taken into custody by then Attorney General John Ashcroft and the feds. The subhead in the Washington Post story was quite explicit that these guys weren’t picked up for ordinary visa violations: "Government calls Several Cases ‘of Special Interest,’ Meaning Related to Post-Attacks Investigation."
What, I wondered, was the Israeli connection to 9/11? In any case, from that point on it was a legitimate question to ask, and, indeed, unknown to me, the news department over at Fox News was asking it — and, a few weeks after my column appeared, they answered it.
In an astonishing four-part series on Israeli spying in the US, top Fox News reporter Carl Cameron detailed how Israeli agents on American soil had tracked the hijackers, as they moved amongst us, and, in addition, had launched what appeared to be a wide-ranging and quite aggressive intelligence-collection operation directed at US government offices across the country. The allegations contained in his report were denied – and the story (which soon disappeared from the Fox News web site) was never followed up, but Cameron’s reportage haunts us today, and mocks us from the archives where it has been gathering dust for eight years. "Since September 11, more than 60 Israelis have been arrested or detained, either under the new patriot anti-terrorism law, or for immigration violations," reported Cameron:
"A handful of active Israeli military were among those detained, according to investigators, who say some of the detainees also failed polygraph questions when asked about alleged surveillance activities against and in the United States. There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9-11 attacks, but investigators suspect that the Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are ‘tie-ins.’ But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, ‘evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.’"
Over the next three nights, Cameron detailed the existence of an underground Israeli army in the US armed with a dazzling array of hi-tech spying devices and techniques that enabled them to penetrate our vital communications, including those utilized by law enforcement. His reports also described the consequences for any law enforcement officials who dared raise questions about this: their careers, Cameron told us, would be effectively over.
Cameron’s reporting was viewed by millions. Of course, the Israelis and our own government denied everything. Mark Regev, a spokesman for the Israeli government, scoffed: Israel, spying on the United States? Why, who ever heard of such a thing?! The US government, for its part, disdained all such reports as "an urban myth." The Israel lobby moved quickly to make sure the Cameron reports were thrown down the Memory Hole, and Cameron was accused of – you guessed it! – "anti-Semitism," on account of having spent time in the Middle East in his youth.
Yet the story persisted. Die Zeit, the respected German weekly, ran a piece entitled "Next Door to Mohammed Atta," in which further evidence the Israelis had been tracking the hijackers quite closely was cited as coming from French intelligence sources. This was followed up by a story in Salon – hardly a bastion of anti-Semitic agitation – which gave a long and detailed account of the Israeli spying operation, as outlined by Cameron, and concluded that it was in large part meant as a diversionary tactic. The same author did a comprehensive follow-up in Counterpunch, after The Nation spiked it. Reputable newspapers like the Scottish Sunday Herald reported the known facts.
Yet the 9/11 Commission did not so much as mention this aspect of the 9/11 story. Nor has Fox News ever followed up on Cameron’s reporting: they haven’t disavowed it, either. They, along with the rest of the "news" media in this country, simply pretend it never happened. When Arianna Huffington purged me from blogging on the Huffington Post, she cited my own reporting on this story as the reason: "Oh, come on, Dhaaa-link! You know dat’s anti-Semitic!"
Really? Is Fox News anti-Semitic, too? Is Die Zeit? Salon? Le Monde? How about The Forward?
Of course, Arianna is an airhead, but her instinct for self-preservation at all costs – yes, even at the cost of the truth – is indicative of what’s involved here. I was told, before I undertook to challenge the "official" 9/11 story, that I would pay for it by being cast out of the "mainstream" whilst being mercilessly smeared. In any event, since I was never all that interested in being considered "mainstream" – in part because I knew the whole concept of "mainstream" was very over – and because the prospect of being viciously attacked didn’t faze me in the least, I was undeterred. And I remain so to this day.
What I want to know is this: does Fox News stand by Carl Cameron’s reporting on the question of Israeli foreknowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks? Yes – or no? If so, then what is their loudest mouth – I refer, of course, to Glenn Beck – doing smearing someone as a "Truther" who is asking the same sort of questions asked by Fox News reporter Cameron? If Van Jones must go, because he’s supposedly a "Truther," then Cameron must go, too.
No, I don’t expect an answer to my question any time soon – or, indeed, any time at all. I just want my readers to contemplate the implications of that, and what it says about the veracity of the "official" 9/11 narrative.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Can Ron Paul Be Tamed? – February 2nd, 2012
- Iraq in Retrospect – January 31st, 2012
- Putting Israel First – January 29th, 2012
- The Greatest Threat – January 26th, 2012
- Adelson, Gingrich, and the Selling of America – January 24th, 2012





vltreude
September 11th, 2009 at 5:08 am
Great post, Justin. My theory is that it's a metaconspiracy – that the wackier conspiracy theories (as you mentioned, controlled demolition of the Towers and the Pentagon missile) are being promoted by disinformation specialists within the government. That way, all of us 9/11 skeptics are painted with the brush of "crazy 9/11 truthers."
GJD
September 11th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Dear Justin,
I must state first off that I have a great deal of respect for your writing and for antiwar.com in general.
Cynical bastard that I am, for years I'd skoff at those nitwits who spoke nonsense about controlled demolitions and no plane at the pentagon. That was until a few years ago and I dug a little deeper.
Beyond the facts you mention in your article there are dozens of first responders that reporting hearing explosions before the towers fell. Lastly, for the towers to fall at free fall speed while simultaneously crushing to dust (in mid-air) all of the content within the towers, all without the aid of an accelerant, would be to defy the laws of physics. The official story simply cannot be true.
I could continue but who wants to read what a crazy person thinks.
Geo1671
September 11th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
"Of course, some of the people who challenge the official story are, indeed, crackpots: they think some kind of "controlled demolition" took place inside the World Trade Center, and that no plane hit the Pentagon. "
Sorry Justin,You are 100% wrong.Two planes and 3 high towers turned into Dust.
I suggest you go over some of the actual videos on sept 11 2001 and see if you can try to bring down a 2 high rise tower buildings by using one jumbo air'ly'ner. You can load the plane with any thing you want.Two exclusions,no pre wiring the buildings with explosives and your brother can't have exclusive security of the buildings.
PS–Justin check out Marvin Bush 911 WTC
Reading your aticle is like a daughter saying to daddy, "I'm little pregnant, our family doctor is a crackpot :^/
dave741
September 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
"crackpots: they think some kind of "controlled demolition" took place"
Anyone who can watch WTC7 fall and not even consider controlled demolition is an imbecile:
youtube.com/watch?v=oQeQi5XXfz0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatreallyhappened%2Ecom%2Fnode%3Fpage%3D1&feature=player_embedded
Even the crackpots are getting press in some pretty mainstream outlets:
worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.commentview&comment_id=158
Nelson_2008
September 11th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Justin,
For someone who can see right through the lies of the first "Pearl Harbor", I'm surprised…shocked actually…that the second "Pearl Harbor" has completely fooled you.
In this case, that WTC7 fell with free-fall acceleration while maintaining a perfect or near-perfect profile, in and of itself, proves beyond a reasonable doubt that it was the victim of a controlled demolition. Thus the proof that 9/11 was an "inside job" is right out in the open for all to see.
The real "masterminds" are simply relying on media control, political power, and, most importantly, public incredulity, to get away with their crimes. They know that before they can be held accountable, there would likely need to be a significant public paradigm shift, which they're working hard to try to prevent.
Please don't put yourself and antiwar.com on the wrong side of history by continuing to deny what by now should be so obvious.
dave741
September 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
The more I think about this article the more it baffles me.
When people are writing publically under their own name, like Mr. Raimondo, I would understand why, even if they might question aspects of the official 9/11 story, they might not want to say anything publically for fear of what it might do to their career or their safety. I don't think that public figures who know the truth should keep quiet, but I understand it. What I don't understand is how someone can raise questions about Israeli involvement, which is an obvious issue to any open minded person, and do so when they are a public figure, but yet still be afraid to bring up the most obvious issue of them all – which is controlled demolition. It takes a little bit of reading to understand the Israeli issue, but it takes 10 seconds of watching a video, and maybe 5 minutes to read a couple articles written by architects, to realize that the controlled demolition issue is far more questionable. What is it? It can't be about the facts. Is it that it is still slightly more acceptable to accuse the "other," even if it is precious Israel, than to accuse your own group?
IndigoRain
September 11th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
The story here is that nobody can get honest answers about 9/11 beyond the "official" ones that have been provided to date. While the Establishment may feel smug that they'll never have to give an honest answer to questions about 9/11, questions will persist, and the majority of the public will someday stop believing the official narrative and come to believe something else entirely. At that moment the Establishment's credibility will be worth less than dust, not that it's worth all that much today.
jeff_davis
September 11th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
You tried Justin, lord knows you tried. But if you open the door even a crack, and suggest that there is more to the 911 business than the official story, you will be trampled by "truthers" streaming in to drown out rational discourse with their whack-job blather.
Of the 7 comments posted above, the first claims the govt is promoting the "truthers", and the last 6 are full on "truthers".
With the "truthers" on the job, the truth has no chance.
That said, let me state my version of your thesis in one sentence:
The Israelis having a clear national security interest in keeping an eye on anti-Israeli militants — Palestinians, Arabs, and more generally Muslim militants the world over — dispatched their intelligence agents to the US to watch al Quaeda's operatives, figured out their plan, calculated its success to be in Israel's interest, didn't interfere or give warning, stood by and let it happen.
A bit clunky as sentences go, but there it is.
MvGuy
September 11th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Before I write my comment on Justin's "9/11: Our Truth, and Theirs" Here is another one of those pesky coincidences for……………Jeff_Davis
BEIRUT (AlArabiya.net, AFP)
Hezbollah actively coordinated with Lebanon's security services on the arrest of a retired general suspected of spying for Israel, the Shiite movement's deputy chief said on Wednesday.
It is not the family’s first brush with notoriety.
**!!!! One of Mr. Jarrah’s cousins, Ziad al-Jarrah, was among the 19 hijackers who carried out the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, though the men were 20 years apart in age and do not appear to have known each other well….!!!
dave741
September 11th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
"With the "truthers" on the job, the truth has no chance. "
Nano-thermite in the dust and metal-microspheres that need nearly temps of 5,000 degrees to form.
But you called me a "truther".
I guess you win.
david_n
September 11th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
JR: «Yet anyone who questions the official story – the narrative of 19 Arab dudes going on what would seem to be a rather quixotic jihad, haphazardly making their way through a strange foreign country on their own, all the while readying themselves for The Day That Changed History – is denounced as a "conspiracy theorist," a crackpot, and worse.»
Right on, Mr. Raimondo! Labeling people crackpots just because they question an official story and have different opinions is completely uncalled for! Couldn't agree more.
JR: «Of course, some of the people who challenge the official story are, indeed, crackpots»
Oh…
Oh well, at least I got a good laugh out of it! Thanks, Mr. Raimondo.
By the way, I'm sure you're aware that some of these 'crackpots' are actually regular Antiwar.com contributors. I'm sure you're aware of it because you're probably the one in charge of censoring any articles they write about 9/11. (what an annoying little habit that is, I gotta tell you!…) Why do you do it? Perhaps you consider them 'part-time crackpots'?…
hermanking
September 11th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
The CIA and Mossad most likely were behind 911.With the cooperation of Bush, Cheney, Myers and Guiliani.
Henry_Clemens
September 12th, 2009 at 12:13 am
A sad truth: the entire history of the human race is a history filled with relentless conspiracies.
Henry_Clemens
September 12th, 2009 at 1:26 am
Just for the record: the US government knew for a fact that the passenger ship Lusitania wasn't loaded down with weapons to be used against Germany; FDR had no advance intelligence that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor; the North Vietnamese really did attack the US Navy in the Gulf of Tonkin; the US government proved that a lone Lee Harvey Oswald assasinated JFK; the US government did not cover-up a so-called deliberate Israeli attack on the USS liberty; and I'm sure, that if you give me enough time, I could believe that everything the US government has ever claimed to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is, in fact, the truth. I have also become convinced that ducks don't fly, or waddle, and they never, ever quack. What? You mean you truthers actually believe our government is capable of gross evil? Shame on you!
Gulab
September 12th, 2009 at 4:57 am
Mr. Raimondo. I have been reading your articles for a long time now. I regard you as one of the best observers of the U.S. political scene and one of the sharpest and most stylish writers of political commentary anywhere. Yet, I am baffled here.
As another commenter noted, you contradict yourself grossly. And while proud of being quick to notice the suppressed evidence of Israeli involvement you fail to see things that are plain as day—the demolition of the towers, and the lack of any big jet at the Pentagon.
It is a stunning indictment of the poverty of U.S. science education that masses of people can blindly accept the idea that two planes can turn three entire towers to dust, despite seeing the events repeatedly. So brainwashed as to have no intuition at all about the physical laws of nature!
In view of your undoubted perspicacity and strange position here, one must really question your motives. Perhaps your twisted position is somehow the consequence of expressed or unexpressed contraints set by your financial sponsors.
It is unfortunate enough that a pivotal issue like 911 is given short shrift in this journal, despite the fact that exposing it as a charade could conceivably do far, far more for the antiwar cause than anything else, but muddying the waters as you have done here is deeply unfortunate.
If it is a matter of having researched or reflected too little then please correct yourself.
Right now it looks like antiwar.com, Democracy Now, the Huffington Post, and other self-styled "truth to power" media, as well as marqee anti-establishment figures like Naom Chomsky, who have dutifully aided the establishment in keeping the lid on the truth of 911, are being badly upstaged by Charlie Sheen.
I have to admit that there is something wonderful in seeing a dissolute, B-grade actor appear as a moral and intellectual giant alongside self-righteous but compromised intellectuals.
tmb38
September 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I have to admit to a significant amount of scientific ignorance right up front here. However, when I watch a video, such as those linked in the article, of a credentialed scientist, discussing details of his analysis, I have NO IDEA how to discern, personally, whether he is an insane crackpot, or whether he is saying something which makes as much real sense as it SEEMS to make. I find myself thinking "how am I ever going to decide the ultimate truth of this issue when entire groups of highly credentialed scientists look at the same data set and come to opposite conclusions?".
What is perhaps most fascinating to me is that the most high-profile denouncers of the 9/11 "truth" movement, people like Noam Chomsky and perhaps Matt Taibi, are essentially responding with nothing more substantive than arguments from personal incredulity, hardly the backbone of scientific reasoning!
DrFix
September 13th, 2009 at 2:07 am
How oddly inconvenient. A man is arrested for purportedly spying for Israel while a relative, under the eye of joyous Israeli "art" students, plows into a skyscraper. You just can't make this garbage up.
Steve_Blasko
September 13th, 2009 at 3:51 am
Justin, your attack here against "truthers" is so uncalled for and disingenuous. If you're going to attack us, why do you have to do it in a cowardly, underhanded way like this?
Many intelligent, sane people like Gary North at LRC have acknowledged the plain and obvious fact that the towers and WTC 7 were professionally demolished. Lew Rockwell has featured articles by "truthers" and even featured an article last year entitled, "What happened to Building 7?"
If you had any guts, you would call out Lew Rockwell and Gary North by name and label both of them crazy nutjobs. Why don't you do it, Justin? Put up or shut up.
And I'm still a loyal fan of yours, though you disappoint me with sort of swill. I find your attacks very disingenuous, but I'm not going to speculate about your motives. I'll just ask that you please stop. It's one thing to shy away from discussion of controlled demolitions–I could understand and accept that–but it's quite another to actively attack good people who simply have the courage to say that 2+2=4.
Steve_Blasko
September 13th, 2009 at 4:21 am
Justin, your attack here against "truthers" is so uncalled for and disingenuous. If you're going to attack us, why do you have to do it in a cowardly, underhanded way like this?
Many intelligent, sane people like Gary North at LRC have acknowledged the plain and obvious fact that the towers and WTC 7 were professionally demolished. Lew Rockwell has featured articles by "truthers" and even featured an article last year entitled, "What happened to Building 7?"
If you had any guts, you would call out Lew Rockwell and Gary North by name and label both of them crazy nutjobs. Why don't you do it, Justin? Put up or shut up.
And I'm still a loyal fan of yours, though you disappoint me with this sort of swill. I find your attacks very disingenuous, but I'm not going to speculate about your motives. I'll just ask that you please stop. It's one thing to shy away from discussion of controlled demolitions–I could understand and accept that–but it's quite another to actively attack good people who simply have the courage to say that 2+2=4.
DrFix
September 13th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Justin. You just had to KNOW you were opening a can of worms with this. Still, I have to say that it seems ludicrous to say that two jumbo jets with seats, landing gear, luggage, engines and more importantly… bodies, would disintegrate but (insert Gomer Pyle voice over) Surprise, surprise, surprise… Bad guy passports miraculously survive. Give me a break. I've seen the wreckage of a 747 that plowed into a mountain side in Japan and the wreckage and human remains were significant, but, in the bizzaro world, which you evidently subscribe to, pilots (and barely qualified to even pilot a single engine prop plane at that) were transformed into crack jumbo jet jockeys and plowed expertly into the pentagon. Here is where "POOF"… bodies, suit cases, clothing, landing gear assemblies, multi ton engines etc. vanish. So while a mountain is incapable of erasing crash evidence the Pentagon, and a dirt field in Pennsylvania, can transmute bodies into bullshit.
Shishlakji
September 13th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Excellent article, Justin, and kudos for having the courage to publish it. It's the reaction to skeptics, nicely illustrated by some of the comments here, that most strengthens the case for a cover-up; I know of nothing like it in my life time. From the Drudge Report to the Daily Kos and in all the mainstream media, there is a coordinated effort to suppress any discussion that might cast doubt on the official report. Even Wired Magazine a few months ago found it necessary to give the "911 wacko" wheel another spin, though to their credit, they set up a straw man that even the most rabid truthers haven't thought of and buried it in part of the print mag that nobody reads. It would not surprise me if most of the Wired staff are skeptics and the order came down from Conde Nast HQ.
I know of only one group that has sufficient influence to keep the entire establishment in line like this.
As for Glen Beck, it didn't matter whether Van Jones was a truther, or a smoker; if it gave Beck an opening to damage the Obama administration he would have taken it.
Henry_Clemens
September 13th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Justin, it seems there has been some very interesting, logical and factual comments made rebutting your theory of "truthers" and "crackpots' concerning the events of 911. Why the deafening silence on your part? Have you, too, been turned to the dark side like so many others? Lamentations. There ought to be sad, sad music at this point. A dirge would be appropriate I think.
Nelson_2008
September 13th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Shishlakji wrote: "I know of only one group that has sufficient influence to keep the entire establishment in line like this".
Exactly! And more and more people are beginning to realize this fact.
It's the same group that, as part of the cover-up psyop, for example, was able to get "Hyman Brown" on national TV on 09/11/2001, have him introduced as the "architect" of the WTC towers (a ridiculous lie) and tell ridiculous lies about the demise of the buildings from "fire".
You can read a damning little expose about it here: http://colorado911visibility.org/2009/05/26/%e2%8…
Yeah, the group in question is now in the unenviable position of needing to use all its unique power to try to keep a lid on 9/11, but the very use of that unique power causes it to implicate itself. I would guess that they're starting to sweat a little bit by now. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of "people".
MvGuy
September 13th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Justin is SO correct..!! The 911 official story is sacrosanct.
Any questioning of the approved legend is heresy……. The government and MSM having assumed the role of correctness arbiter while publicly destroying evidence.
“Who needs evidence when you can have our word”
Strange how no one EVER seems to mention how odd it is that Bush said he saw
The first plane hit and his bizarre performance after Card informs him of the SECOND strike…. I am of course referring to the fact that HE DOES NOT STAND UP
But sits there contorting his face… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WztB6HzXxI&fe…
And there is the performance of Larry Silverstein……”I remember getting a call from the fire department commander tellin me they were not sure they could contain the fire, he said “you know we’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing would be to pullit”………..and they made that decision to pull……uh…and we watched the building collapse.” Interesting how he omits the DETAILS of how they were able to accomplish this demolition on short notice..?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
WHAT DOES HE MEAN “They made that decision to pull..?? and we watched the building collapse..??” Can we get him in a court of LAW to explain this…Please??
How about the fact that the 911 commission was kept in the dark about the
Interrogation of the suspected accomplices….and the VIDEO recordings of the sessions……AND the CIA DESTROYED the video evidence….98 Videos..!!!!
In one of largest crimes in American history if not the largest…destroy evidence?
The New York air traffic controllers who directed the hijacked flights made a tape recording shortly after the planes crashed The manager, who is not named in the report, said that his intentions were to provide quick information to federal officials investigating the attack before the air traffic controllers involved took sick leave for the stress of their experiences, as is common practice.
http://www.washttp://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w…
Yes….. There are many loose ends which people like myself point out, but we have no power to compel the actors to explain their roles…..and those in charge appear not to be interested in picking the official story down to bare bones, none at all….
What we are left with is the 911 conundrum. The new third rail of America politics. Should, would, could antiwar.com extend it’s mission to include more 911 skeptic material and side with ??????? who?? No, I don’t think it would benefit antiwar, us.
Mr Raimondo’s “limited hang out” should suffice for now……. Without knowing the exact scenario that unfolded, one [without investigative power of subpena] is left playing guessing games, never a good position against an intrenched adversary…. And which would only serve to harm antiwar.coms mission..
baldo
September 13th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Justin, I was very disappointed to notice how you started the article in a manner that was well promising… But then you failed grossly when you wrote "the people who challenge the official story are, indeed, crackpots: " and then when I clicked on 'are', 'indeed' and 'crackpots' I found that all had very interesting messages that were making a lot of sense…
So…, what happened ? You write nicely and make a lot of sense on most issues…, what happened now ? are you afraid of the establishment and the powers that be ??
We need someone with balls to write and investigate what really happened on 9 eleven. Enough with the pathetic and criminal lies we have been fed from the beginning….!!
jtgw
September 14th, 2009 at 12:36 am
I hope everyone went to read Christopher Ketcham's article from Counterpunch, which Justin links to in his discussion of Carl Cameron's reporting of the Israeli connection on Fox News. I'm thinking in particular of the NJ Israelis seen celebrating on the morning of the attack. Crucially, they were seen celebrating before the second plane crashed, meaning they already knew that they were seeing a terrorist attack at a time when everyone in the public media was still assuming it was an accident. Now, it would be even more interesting to know whether they had arrived in time for the first crash with their film equipment, since that would be even more significant for the following reasons.
The article I think proves that Israel had some kind of knowledge of an impending terrorist attack, which it may have shared to some extent with the CIA, but not the FBI which had the responsibility to fight terrorism on the home front. That is bad enough for American-Israeli relations (and CIA-FBI relations). However, the article doesn't show us any more evidence than that the Israelis knew that something was going to happen soon; they did not necessarily know when and where exactly. If the NJ Israelis had arrived on the scene to film their celebrations after the first attack, but before the second attack, then this would be compatible with a scenario in which the Israelis, already in place to survey the Muslim terrorist suspects, saw the first crash, knew at once what was happening because of their prior suspicions, and rushed to film the event. Note that they would NOT know that the attack would occur at that specific time and place. They just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
The problem then is the narrow time window for that scenario to work out. The first plane crashed at 8.46am, the second at 9.03am. So in all, if they were innocent of the knowledge of this particular attack, they had less than 17 minutes to learn of the event, contact each other and meet at that spot, having gathered all the equipment they needed to film the event. How plausible is this? I don't actually know. It depends when exactly they were spotted by the neighbor.
Ketcham is almost certainly right that few sensible people will try to tackle this question, not least because those Israelis are now unavailable. The implications for the other scenario are pretty dire: if they had arrived on that rooftop to film the event before or just around the time the first plane crashed, they must have known the time and the place, which means Israeli foreknowledge was on a whole other level than what Ketcham's article can safely prove. Leaving aside the accusation that Israel actually planned or actively aided the attack, the second scenario would mean that Israel basically wanted this attack to happen. Netanyahu's careless remark that the attacks were 'good' for Israel would take on a whole new meaning.
Henry_Clemens
September 14th, 2009 at 1:41 am
The winners of the attack on 911: al-Qaeda, Israel and the US government (vastly new domestic police powers and a great excuse to launch two unjustified and aggressive wars of imperialism). The losers of the attack on 911: The hundreds of thousand of innocent Iraqi and Afghani citizens who have lost their lives or were maimed for life, the thousands of Americans soldiers who have been killed or will be maimed for life and, last but not least, the suffering American people who are still groaning under the emotional, spiritual, psychological and fiscal devastation of it all. Was the attack on 911 a CIA-Mossad controlled black flag operation? I pray that it wasn't. But If it was, may the perpetrators of that heinous crime be damned to suffer in hell forever!
RodW
September 14th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Justin writes:
"What I want to know is this: does Fox News stand by Carl Cameron’s reporting on the question of Israeli foreknowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks? Yes – or no? If so, then what is their loudest mouth – I refer, of course, to Glenn Beck – doing smearing someone as a "Truther" who is asking the same sort of questions asked by Fox News reporter Cameron? If Van Jones must go, because he’s supposedly a "Truther," then Cameron must go, too."
It would be so much harder to 'smear' somebody as a "Truther" if the earnest body of people who are seeking the truth with the limited means available were treated with a bit more respect by thinking people, like Justin for example. Of course any moron can snicker and say 'crackpot' and think that they've scored a devastating hit. By piling on here, Justin contributes to making the word "Truther" a smear word rather than a badge of simple civic duty.
Justin further writes
"No, I don’t expect an answer to my question any time soon – or, indeed, any time at all. I just want my readers to contemplate the implications of that, and what it says about the veracity of the "official" 9/11 narrative."
Oh, really? We're supposed to question the veracity of the "official" 9/11 narrative, but only up to a point. Are we supposed, with Justin, just to give up expecting an answer to our questions? Obviously I doubt the official story, and the evidence for foreknowledge seems overwhelming. But I don't know what really happened, however much evidence I look at. And in this situation, the answer is not to accept defeat like Justin. It certainly isn't the answer to poor scorn on those people who are actively analyzing the contradictory evidence and most importantly, who are demanding accountability. After all, accountability is what this is about in the end. People like Justin and the ideologues at Counterpunch have lost sight of this. If we can't pin the actual attacks on the government, we could still pin the failure to prevent the attacks on them. But not if we're divided into camps with one side yelling 'crackpot' at every opportunity.
I actually started sending money to Antiwar.com after 9/11, but then I became offended by this counter-productive and divisive stance and decided to spend the money on things closer to home.
MvGuy
September 14th, 2009 at 2:15 am
Yes…..Yes……YES…….Justin is SO correct..!! The 911 official story IS sacrosanct.
Any questioning of the approved legend is heresy……. The government and MSM have assumed the role of correctness arbiter as evidences continues to go missing.
“Who needs evidence when you can have our word”
Strange how no one EVER seems to mention how odd it is that Bush said he saw
the first plane hit and his bizarre performance after Card informs him of the SECOND strike…. I am of course referring to the fact that HE DOES NOT STAND UP
But sits there contorting his face… <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WztB6HzXxI&fe…” target=”_blank”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WztB6HzXxI&fe…
And there is the performance of Larry Silverstein……”I remember getting a call from the fire department commander tellin me they were not sure they could contain the fire, he said you know we’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing would be to pullit………..and they made that decision to pull……uh…and we watched the building collapse.” <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100” target=”_blank”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
WHAT DOES HE MEAN “They made that decision to pull..?? and we watched the building collapse..??” Can we get him in a court of LAW to explain this…Please??
Hours after the hijacked planes flew into the World Trade Center Towers, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field, an FAA manager at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center gathered six controllers who communicated or tracked two of the hijacked planes and recorded a one-hour interview their personal accounts of what occurred, the report stated.
The manager, who is not named in the report, said that his intentions were to provide quick information to federal officials investigating the attack before the air traffic controllers involved took sick leave for the stress of their experiences, as is common practice.
According to the report, a second manager at the New York center promised a union official representing the controllers that he would "get rid of" the tape after controllers used it to provide written statements to federal officials about the events of the day.
Instead, the second manager said he destroyed the tape between December 2001 and January 2002 by crushing the tape with his hand, cutting it into small pieces and depositing the pieces into trash cans around the building, the report said.
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6632-20…” target=”_blank”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6632-20…
The 911 commission was kept in the dark about the
interrogation of the suspected accomplices of the 911 hijackers and the VIDEO recordings of the sessions……AND the CIA DESTROYED the video evidence….98 Videos..!!!!
In one of worst crimes in American history if not the biggest, and the CIA feels free to destroy evidence?
What we are left with is the 911 conundrum. It’s the new third rail of America politics. Should, would, could antiwar.com extend it’s mission to include more 911 skeptic material and side with whom??? I don’t think it would benefit antiwar .com, America or Americans.
Mr Raimondo’s comment that the official account of 9/11 seems more anemic –and inadequate – than ever, a limited rejection of the official story, should suffice for now……. Without knowing the exact scenario that unfolded, one [without investigative power of subpoena] is left playing guessing games, never a good position against an intrenched adversary…. And would only serve to diffuse antiwar.com's mission.
RickR30
September 14th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Good article. However, Van Jones had to go, not because of doubting the official 9/11 version but for many, many other reasons. But the media is going to make the most of the 9/11 issue. So be it. The important thing is that he's gone and hopefully not making a living off taxpayers.
To the Truthers out there, relax. Raimondo is trying to be careful here and not associate himself with some of the more controversial views regarding 9/11. His own investigation has lead him to the Israeli connection. That is his focus. He's not saying there wasn't internal help, but it's clear that there was external. In a more informal setting I'm sure he would listen to some of the views about internal involvement.
RuneNordsman
September 15th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
from an article by Dr Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.prisonplanet.com/why-propaganda-trumps… Why Propaganda Trumps Truth
some excerpts:
In Mein Kampf, Hitler explained the believability of the Big Lie as compared to the small lie: “In the simplicity of their minds, people more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have such impudence. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and continue to think that there may be some other explanation.”
The physicist, Steven Jones, has produced overwhelming evidence that explosives were used to bring down the buildings. His evidence is not engaged, examined, tested, and refuted. It is simply ignored.
RuneNordsman
September 15th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
from an article by Dr Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.prisonplanet.com/why-propaganda-trumps… Why Propaganda Trumps Truth
some excerpts:
In Mein Kampf, Hitler explained the believability of the Big Lie as compared to the small lie: “In the simplicity of their minds, people more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have such impudence. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and continue to think that there may be some other explanation.”
The physicist, Steven Jones, has produced overwhelming evidence that explosives were used to bring down the buildings. His evidence is not engaged, examined, tested, and refuted. It is simply ignored.
RuneNordsman
September 15th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Naive people think that if the US government’s explanation of 9/11 was wrong, physicists and engineers would all speak up. Some have (see above). However, for most physicists and engineers this would be an act of suicide. Physicists owe their careers to government grants, and their departments are critically dependent on government funding. A physicist who speaks up essentially ends his university career. If he is a tenured professor, to appease Washington the university would buy out his tenure as BYU did in the case of the outspoken Steven Jones.
An engineering firm that spoke out would never again be awarded a government contract. In addition, its patriotic, flag-waving customers would regard the firm as a terrorist apologist and cease to do business with it.
RuneNordsman
September 15th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Antiwar sites do not realize that, by accepting the 9/11 explanation, they have undermined their own opposition to the war. Once you accept that Muslim terrorists did it, it is difficult to oppose punishing them for the event. In recent months, important antiwar sites, such as antiwar.com, have had difficulty with their fundraising, with their fundraising campaigns going on far longer than previously. They do not understand that if you grant the government its premise for war, it is impossible to oppose the war.
The notion that “we are not afraid to follow the truth wherever it may lead” is an extremely romantic and idealistic notion. I have seldom experienced open minds even in academic discourse or in the highest levels of government. Among the public at large, the ability to follow the truth wherever it may lead is almost non-existent.
The most disturbing fact of all remains: The 9/11 event responsible for these adverse happenings has not been investigated.
cybbota
September 25th, 2009 at 3:33 am
Love your Articles… However I hope that you were being sarcastic when you labeled controlled demolition theorists as "Crackpots"? Whoa… red flag!!! As you know… Sean Hannity is a Neo-con. Good ol' Sean tries to debunk the controlled demolition theory as foolish by stating "That's what happens when planes hit buildings, they come down."
Uhmmm Duh…. correction Sean… Buildings don't come down LIKE THAT unless they are rigged with controlled demolitions!
Geese Louise Man!!! Please tell me your joking, playing with us, or maybe it's a typo?
I trust that there must be some kind of mistake. Sean Hannity? yah he's stupid enough to come up with a pre-school "Plane hits building… it come down fast theory"… but you? No, your not that stupid.
What's going on Bro?
Tariq Ilyas
November 9th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
http://world911truth.org/operation-blackout/
see this for explosives
Chris
November 12th, 2009 at 10:39 am
weak article… with just the smallest amount of research, it becomes obvious that 911 was an inside job, that explosives were used to bring down the buildings, that no plane ever crashed into the pentagon, that Norad and FEMA stood down, that crime scene evidence (the biggest crime in US history) was destroyed… (etc, etc,)
The biggest thing hurting the truth movement is that attitude of dismissal – it's easier to call someone a crackpot or a conspiracy nut rather than look at information / evidence which challenges the official NIST report.
I'm surprised how revolutionary it is to think 911 was an inside job, given the wealth of facts available to anyone willing to type "911 truth" into a Google search field and spend a couple hours.
It took Americans a number of years to admit there were no WMD's in Iraq, and that Iraq had nothing to do with 911. It seemed obvious to me in 2002 that the Iraqi threat was being manufactured, that there was more going on..
What's sad is that now that lie is out of the box, people aren't clueing into the fact that some of the other things (like 911) that the government has told us are false too..
Monart
July 23rd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Not Justin Raimondo. He's already made up his mind that the laws of physics were suspended on 9/11 so that the hijackers could perform their miraculous destruction by airplanes alone.
Monart
July 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Just because Justin Raimondo is "anti-war", doesn't mean he's always pro-truth. With regards to the truth about controlled demolitions on 9/11, he just won't believe it because…, well, just because.
Monart
July 23rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
It'll be interesting future history to read, whether Justin Raimondo is a fool of 9/11, or a knave.
Monart
July 23rd, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Your 9/11 thinking is as clunky as Justin Raimndo's, tripping over the laws of physics on the way to your denial of the perceptual evidence recorded that day.
Monart
July 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
You're onto something here. American Exceptionalism. "Others" did 9/11, but not our own people.
jeff_davis
July 23rd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
I studied physics and mechanical engineering at UC Berkeley in the early 70's and worked in the Alvarez Group at the Lawrence Radiation Lab. And you, Mr. Moron, what are your qualifications such that you're spouting off on matters about which you are clearly clueless? I've forgotten more physics than you will ever know. Get over it.