Even those pundits who seem to want to distance U.S. foreign policy from Tel Aviv’s demands and begin treating Israel like any other country sometimes feel compelled to make excuses and apologies before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The self-lacerating prologues generally describe how much the writer really has a lot of Jewish friends and how he or she thinks Israelis are great people and that Israel is a wonderful country before launching into what is usually a fairly mild critique.
Well, I don’t feel that way. I don’t like Israel very much. Whether or not I have Jewish friends does not define how I see Israel and is irrelevant to the argument. And as for the Israelis, when I was a CIA officer overseas, I certainly encountered many of them. Some were fine people and some were not so fine, just like the general run of people everywhere else in the world. But even the existence of good upstanding Israelis doesn’t alter the fact that the governments that they have elected are essentially part of a long-running criminal enterprise judging by the serial convictions of former presidents and prime ministers. Most recently, former President Moshe Katsav was convicted of rape, while almost every recent head of government, including the current one, has been investigated for corruption. Further, the Israeli government is a rogue regime by most international standards, engaging as it does in torture, arbitrary imprisonment, and continued occupation of territories seized by its military. Worse still, it has successfully manipulated my country, the United States, and has done terrible damage both to our political system and to the American people, a crime that I just cannot forgive, condone, or explain away.
The most recent outrage is Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s direct interference in U.S. domestic politics through his appearance in a television ad appearing in Florida that serves as an endorsement of Republican candidate Mitt Romney. The Netanyahu ad and his involvement in the election has been widely reported in the media and has even been condemned by several leading Jewish congressmen, but it has elicited no response from either Obama or Romney. Both should be condemning in the strongest terms the completely unprecedented intervention by a foreign head of government in an American election. That they are saying nothing is a testament to the power that Israel and its friends in Congress and the media have over the U.S. political establishment. Romney might even privately approve of the ads, as he has basically promised to cede to Netanyahu the right to set the limits for U.S. policy in the Middle East.
And why is Benjamin Netanyahu in such a lather? It is because President Barack Obama will not concede to him a “red line” that would automatically trigger a U.S. attack on Iran. Consider for a moment the hubris of Netanyahu in demanding that Washington meet his conditions for going to war with Iran, a nation that for all its frequently described faults has not attacked anyone, has not threatened to attack anyone, and has not made the political decision to acquire a nuclear weapon in spite of what one reads in the U.S. press. At the U.N., Netanyahu’s chart showing a cartoon bomb with a sputtering fuse reminiscent of something that might have been employed by an anarchist in the 1870s failed to pass any credibility test even for the inevitable cheerleaders in the U.S. media. If the U.S. is to go to war based on a Netanyahu cartoon then it deserves everything it gets when the venture turns sour, most likely Iraq Redux, only 10 times worse.
Even more outrageous, and a lot less reported in the media, were the comments made by Patrick Clawson, director of research for the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), an organization founded by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). WINEP is widely viewed as a major component of the Israel Lobby in Washington and is closely tied to the Israeli government, with which it communicates on a regular basis. Clawson heads WINEP’s Iran Security Initiative. At a briefing on Sept. 24 he said, “I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough, and it’s very hard for me to see how the United States … uh … president can get us to war with Iran.… The traditional way America gets to war is what would be best for U.S. interests.”
Note that Clawson states his conviction that initiating a crisis to get the U.S. involved in a war with Iran and thereby fooling the American people into thinking that it is the right thing to do is actually a “U.S. interest.” He cites Pearl Harbor, Fort Sumter, the Lusitania, and the Gulf of Tonkin as models for how to get engaged. Which inevitably leads to Clawson’s solution: “if the Iranians aren’t going to compromise it would be best if someone else started the war … Iranian submarines periodically go down. Some day one of them may not come up…. We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that.” Clawson is clearly approving of Israel’s staging an incident that would lead to war, possibly even a false-flag operation carried out by Israel that would implicate the United States directly, or he is urging the White House to do the job itself.
Clawson not surprisingly has never served in the U.S. military and has a Ph.D. in economics from the New School for Social Research, which would at first glance seem to disqualify him from figuring out how to set up a covert operation to sink a submarine and thereby start a war. He might be seen as moderately ridiculous, but like many of his neoconservative colleagues he is well wired into the system. He writes regularly for The Washington Post, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal; appears on television as an “expert”; and is a colleague at WINEP of the ubiquitous Dennis Ross, sometimes called “Israel’s lawyer,” who was until recently President Obama’s point man on the Middle East. Clawson is a useful idiot who would be registered as an agent of the Israeli government if the Justice Department were doing its job, but instead he is feted as a man who tells it like it is in terms of American interests. The distortion of the foreign-policy decision-making in this country is something that can be attributed to Clawson and his host of fellow travelers, all of whom promote Israel’s perceived interests at the expense of the United States. And they do it with their eyes wide open.
I will deliberately avoid belaboring another Israel Firster Pamela Geller and her New York subway posters calling Palestinians savages and Israelis civilized, as I am sure the point has been made about how any lie that can serve the cause of Israel will be aggressively defended as “free speech.” A poster excoriating Jews or blacks in similar terms as “savages” would not have seen the light of day in New York City, another indication of the power of the Lobby and its friends to control the debate about the Middle East and game the system.
And then there are the reasons to dislike Israel and what it represents that go way back. In 1952’s Lavon Affair, the Israelis were prepared to blow up a U.S. Information Center in Alexandria and blame it on the Egyptians. In 1967, the Israelis attacked and nearly sank the USS Liberty, killing 34 crewmen, and then used their power over President Lyndon Johnson to block an investigation into what had occurred. In 1987, Jonathan Pollard was convicted of spying for Israel with investigators determining that he had been the most damaging spy in the history of the United States. In the 1960s, Israelis stole uranium from a lab in Pennsylvania to construct a secret nuclear arsenal. And the spying and theft of U.S. technology continues. Israel is the most active “friendly nation” when it comes to stealing U.S. secrets, and when its spies are caught, they are either sent home or, if they are Americans, receive a slap on the wrist.
And Israel gets away with killing American citizens — literally — in the cases of Rachel Corrie and Furkan Dogan of the Mavi Marmara. And let’s not forget Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians which has made the United States complicit in a crime against humanity. Tel Aviv has also played a key role in Washington’s going to war against Iraq, in promulgating a U.S.-led global war on terror against the Muslim world, and in crying wolf over Iran, all of which have served no U.S. interest. Through it all, Congress and the media are oblivious to what is taking place. Israel is a net recipient of over $123 billion in U.S. aid and continues to get $3 billion a year even though its per capita income is higher than that of Spain or Italy. No one questions anything having to do with Israel while Congress rubber-stamps resolution after resolution virtually promising to go to war on Israel’s behalf.
I have to admit that I don’t like what my own government is doing these days, but I like Israel even less and it is past time to do something about it. No more money, no more political support, no more tolerance of spying, and no more having to listen to demands for red lines to go to war. No more favorable press when the demented Benjamin Netanyahu holds up a cartoon at the U.N. The United States government exists to serve the American people, no more, no less, and it is time that our elected representatives begin to remember that fact.
Read more by Philip Giraldi
- The New World Order is Unimpeachable – May 22nd, 2013
- Boston Becomes Toxic – May 15th, 2013
- Gatekeeping for Zion – May 9th, 2013
- Kristol Clear – May 1st, 2013
- What Has Bibi Been Doing? – April 24th, 2013





skulz fontaine
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Dear Mr. Giraldi:
Thank you and thank you from the bottom of my heart. I'm sitting just a little straighter this fine evening. Spine injection works wonders.
Nergol
October 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Ah, Israel – always willing to fight to the last drop of American blood and the last penny of American treasure.
robert emmet
October 3rd, 2012 at 10:05 pm
What a wonderful passionate essay! It is evident Mr Giraldi deeply loves his country and is concerned that its future is being subjugated by elected officals intimated by foreign interests. The executive and legislative branches of the US government have proved time and again they are unwilling to do the right thing and rid the country of Israeli millstone. Traitors all of them!
Booda
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 pm
It is always heartening to see someone courageous enough to speak out publicly against the Israeli cancer on American democracy, and we're seeing more and more of it, at least on the internet. But I can't help but think that Israel and their Lobby have already won the battle, if not the war – certainly in the short and medium run. Nothing changes in terms of policy, all keys areas of the U.S. government have likely been infiltrated by bureaucrats and technocrats and other agents sympathetic to Israel's wishes, we have very few secrets left that they don't have access to, and we will continue to give them billions while American will have to make do with less government support. This is not encouraging, and it's hard to see – especially now that our democracy has been so weakened by money and outside special interest influence – how we can ever rid ourselves of this danger.
davidgrayling
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Why isn't Philip a candidate for the Presidency? He's certainly demonstrated that he has a backbone, a rare event in American political circles.
I have never understood why the U.S. has thrown in its lot with a fanatical religious regime that is racist, imperialist, and supremacist!
There must be a connection there somewhere!
Duglarri
October 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
If anything Mr. Giraldi understates the case. Here's Netanyahu transparently, openly, brazenly manipulating American opinion in order to get the United States to fight a war for Israel that Israel cannot fight for itself. And becoming desperate and indignant when it appears that the Obama administration will refuse.
This man wants Americans to die for his country, in a war his country would start and then step aside. He plans to risk a few dozen planes and pilots, while the United States could risk hundreds of planes, dozens of ships, and the lives of tens of thousands of sailors and marines.
And he intends to do all he can to shift an American election to put his man in the White House so he can get his war.
Americans should be outraged.
theo baumann
October 4th, 2012 at 12:06 am
Dear Mr Giraldi be assured that not only you feel like that but countless Non-Americans as well!
@EzShake
October 4th, 2012 at 12:09 am
testify ! … you left out Bibi's direct involvement in smuggling US nuclear triggers out of the US to israel in the 80s – espionage potentially punishable by death
Yonatan
October 4th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Netanyahu has (in)famously said that 9/11, namely the death of 3000 US citizens, was good for Israel. There was also the the joyous dancing of the Mossad agents in New York as the WTC came down. (Note to 9/11 truthers: this does not mean the Israelis did it, just that the Israelis were aware that Atta and the others were up to something and deliberately kept this from the US)
Augustbrhm
October 4th, 2012 at 2:32 am
How can you stop your government from asslicking the israelis.
tom blair
October 4th, 2012 at 3:07 am
Very well written and clear-headed answer to a problem I share with Philip Giraldi – how do I criticise Israel and/or the Israel-American relationship when I have a lot of Jewish friends who I know will interpret it as anti-Semitism – and it is frankly a dangerous thing to do today? I appreciate also the clear synopsis of non-conspiratorial, and acknowledged Israeli crimes against America. Thank you so much for publishing this.
Patrick
October 4th, 2012 at 3:28 am
By no means the least of Israel's sins is their exporting their police and military state "justice" system to the U.S., with the assistance of willing collaborators, called neocons and useful idiots. By coincidence, I watched a 1993 Frontline show, Journey to the Occupied Lands: A West Bank Retrospective, on DVD last night. This could never be produced today because it was critical of Israeli policies and showed the Settlors for what they really are; militarists and religious extremists, and "living large" on stolen land.
Tim
October 4th, 2012 at 3:46 am
"…the Israeli government is a rogue regime by most international standards, engaging as it does in torture, arbitrary imprisonment, and continued occupation of territories seized by its military." Does not this apply in spades to the US government?
Pretty much all governments are criminal enterprises, the scope of their crimes matching the power they posess.
Nikoi
October 4th, 2012 at 3:57 am
Big Thank you! Finally, some honesty, long overdue from the press!_
City Buddha
October 4th, 2012 at 4:51 am
The US was lost as a country when the Federal Reserve took over the US currency. Bless those Rothchilds; their One World Order is starting to take shape.
richard vajs
October 4th, 2012 at 4:57 am
Excellent stand, I have the deepest respect.
How do the Israelis get away with it (besides callous bribes and propaganda)? To me, the biggest factor in their success is the block of 40 to 50 million "Christian fundamentalists" who have bought into an ridiculous heresy that equates this racist, land-stealing little country with the "Will of God".
You can fight petty corruption, but how can you fight mass insanity?
Johnny in Wi.
October 4th, 2012 at 5:03 am
Amen! amen! amen! This is the truth set out briliantly. I haven't seen a better expose then this anywhere. We need thousands of Phil Giraldi's.
liberal
October 4th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Many points well put.
Mark Josephson
October 4th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Hmm. You can dislike Israel all you want, but you should realize that a lot of the things you mention are somewhat deviated from the facts. Foreign aid for Israel was part of the Camp David accord given to both Israel and Egypt and is spent in AMERICA. its basically a way for the US government to invest 3 billion dollars a year back into america, by "giving" money to another country and then that money has to be spent buying arms in America. So it provides many jobs for the defense industry and if you decided to cancel that aid, the first people who would cry about it would be the american defense companies. Not that this is a good thing, but you should realize that this is an issue relating to the military industrial complex and their domination of politics, as eisenhower mentioned in the 1950s. That money was also spent to counter weight Soviet money and arms that was spent on Egypt and Syria from 1967 – 1990 and again was part of AMERICAN foreign policy to counter the Soviets, and similar to american foreign policy to aid anti Soviet governments around the world…. for instance, the Marshall plan after world war 2 spent billions of dollar to rehabilitate western europe directly for the same reason. One additional point is that there are no American troops in Israel, there never have been, and America has never fought FOR israel. This unlike the 35,000 troops in South Korea who will be involved in a North South war, the thousands of troops stationed in Germany since world war 2 during the cold war, or the thousands who died in Vietnam. And finally, as for Netanyahu and his involvement in the US election…that is somewhat a matter of opinion as to whether he did so or not, however it is a reflection of him, and not of Israel. Israel did not get involved in the election, Netanyahu did. Some of your other points, for instance about israeli officials investigated for corruption — sure, Israel is extremely aggressive about investigating officials for corruption, and has a special ombudsman (non elected official) who heads an office for this. Again, does the investigation of corrupt officials indicate a problem with Israel? Perhaps in other countries corrupt officials skate by….? Finally, your issue about the subway posters in New York have again nothing to do with Israel, but with a person and an organization who put up those posters. So perhaps your article should be that you dislike a lot of the political supporters of Israel and their actions. But you really did not say very much about Israel as a whole. Perhaps you should visit the country and see. You might find its not much different than most of the rest of the world.
Die Wahrheit zählt
October 4th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Excellent article.
Mark Thomason
October 4th, 2012 at 6:19 am
And exporting their abusive occupation and assassination programs into our military.
Mike
October 4th, 2012 at 6:52 am
"Why isn't Philip a candidate for the Presidency?"
Because he's not a sociopathic control freak. 99.9% of people who get into politics do so because they are evil and want power over others.
Argonne18
October 4th, 2012 at 6:56 am
AMEN! Thank you Phil. Our government is supposed to serve, Americans, first, last, and always. Israel and her sinister mob of 5th columnist supporters in the US and their completely bought US congress, have been corrupting and subverting our system for 60 years. It has already led to several wars with many dead..and now they want more. Enough.
paddy
October 4th, 2012 at 7:09 am
mr. giraldi -
add this to your list of reasons. u can't get lower than this surely:
9 Sept: Israel Hayom: Israeli delegation honors 9/11 victims at Ground Zero
Edelstein: Attack was example of destructive capability of terrorists sponsored by Iran
“The horrific attack was an example of the destructive capability of terrorist groups governed, motivated and supported by the terrorist capital of the world — Iran. Here, one can understand how dangerous a nuclear Iran would be to Israel and the entire world,” Edelstein said at the site… http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_articl…
3 Oct: AFP: US court orders Iran, others to pay $6 billion for 9/11 http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeq…
Andrewp111
October 4th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Stolen Land??? ALL land on this planet was stolen from someone sometime. Most land was stolen many times. Big deal. Might makes right in this world. What I find infuriating is that Israel maintains the festering wound of the status-quo, instead of finishing the job of stealing the remaining land we all know they want.
And no Philip, sinking an Iranian submarine will NOT start a war unless the sinking is very public. If an Iranian sub simply disappears, Iran will say nothing, and neither will anyone else. Stuff happens at sea all the time. In fact, hyperinflation is more likely to start a war, because Iran has less and less to lose by striking first as the value of their currency approaches the vanishing point.
Margaret
October 4th, 2012 at 7:52 am
You are part of the problem. It's fine to have your view as long as your an Israeli citizen and NOT an American citizen but you can't be loyal to two very different masters……………………………
Bruce Richardson
October 4th, 2012 at 7:53 am
As with several other poster I too nominate Mr. Giraldi for president. It has long been a given that Israel is "the tail that wags the Washington dog." But few writers have the courage displayed by Phil Giraldi to analyze anarticulate that posture. Brilliant analysis and articulation…very well-done!
Margaret
October 4th, 2012 at 7:53 am
The enemy du jour changes to suit the current wishes of the Israelies……………..now Iran is to blame for everything including 9/11.
Lorraine
October 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Bravo, Mr. Giraldi!! THIS article is an excellent synopsis of why a national summit to address and reassess our "special relationship" with Israel is long overdue!! And don't forget how the Israelis used provacation of the Egyptians in the late 50's to generate an excuse to attack them (with the blessing of France and Britain). It seems that now the U.S. will be complicit as we provoke Iran with crippling sanctions in order to generate a backlash which, in turn will become the "justification" for an attack there. History indeed does rhyme…but how long must we dance to this tired old tune?
guest
October 4th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Note to 9/11 ostriches: Plenty of Americans were aware that "Atta and the others were up to something", they were prevented from doing anything about it because it's real hard to sell a patsy when he's in jail when the crime goes down.
Jaime
October 4th, 2012 at 8:27 am
They should but they are entertained by the likes of American Idol. What a lot of fools. They are led to the cliff happily singing.
Kolya_Krassotkin
October 4th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Mr. Giraldi, thank you for speaking so plainly, words that even the most dim-witted can understand. Mr. Netanyahu's meddling into our domestic politics was disgusting, and with his performance he removed any doubts anyone might have still had that Israel is now become a rogue state.
The world cannot afford to let a crazy man lead a nation with nuclear weapons. It is time for regime change in Israel.
Kolya_Krassotkin
October 4th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I am a conservative and I deeply admire President Obama for refusing to let Israel dictate to him. The last president to do anything similar Bush-41, Clinton and Bush-43 both being spineless jellyfish when it came to bowing to the Israel lobby.
Generalissimo X
October 4th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Note that Clawson states his conviction that initiating a crisis to get the U.S. involved in a war with Iran and thereby fooling the American people into thinking that it is the right thing to do is actually a “U.S. interest.” He cites Pearl Harbor, Fort Sumter, the Lusitania, and the Gulf of Tonkin as models for how to get engaged.
seems he left out 9-11. the mother of all false flags and more than likely a mossad op.
Jane
October 4th, 2012 at 9:09 am
I noticed that Mr. Josephson did not address the paragraph devoted to the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty or the the wholelsale theft of our technology and nuclear materials and the rampant spying engaged in in the US on behalf our dear "ally" Israel.
Also, the money and arms supplied to Egypt and Syria by the Soviets in 1967 was undoubtedly in direct response to the Six-Day War that is hailed as such a holy crusade by Zionists everywhere when it was nothing more than a despicable, bloody, preemptive land grab whereby Israel seized control of the Sanai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan and the Golan Heights from Syria.
Furthermore, the wars we are currently engaged in in the ME are a direct result of the lies and propaganda of the pro-Israel Amen corner in Washington – the MANY pro-Israel civilian think-tanks that have and continue to influence US foreign policy especially in the Middle East. So when you consider this and the fact that Israel has fought these aggressive wars against the Palestinians and everyone of their neighbors since its inception with weapons supplied by the US tax payer, YES, much to the disgust of an increasing number of Americans, WE HAVE, in fact fought wars by proxy for Israel. And if this same ugly little group of laptop bombadiers get their way yet again, the US will be involved in the mother of all wars with Iran on behalf of the Zionists, but this time we'll have crossed the Rubicon and all hell will break loose. I think it will end this despicable relationship once and for all which is a good thing, but we will pay a bloody price for our freedom!
Zia Ahad
October 4th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Bravo! Calling a spade a spade has always been Phil's style. Americans will truly become free when their leaders learn to speak in their interest over that of the illegitimate zionist parasite that feeds off US taxpayers while dictating US policies. Pity neither Presidential contenders have the guts to stand up to the zionist Franenstein monster that spares no opportunity to insult US leaders amid an adulating Congress.
WTE
October 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am
And the christian Americans are so blind to it they follow like sheep
baz
October 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Phil, you speak for all of us here and take all the associated risk. I hope your words resonate more within the US masses….but some how, some way we need to take our country back from the sinister forces manipulating and sabotaging our political and economic system. Real change can only take place once we rip the money out of politics. Democracy by referendum I say. No more senate. No more armies of lawyers and aides. No more lobbyists and corrupt and decadent politicians doing boiler room deals. Lets save this country time and money and reputation. Its time we had a regime change here!
WTE
October 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Great article. I just wish the christian population would wake up and see things how they are instead of reading from thier book of horrors.
charles caruso
October 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Budget proposal:
Let's cut off all aid to countries that bomb our ships.
That might save $3 billion or so . . . or more.
liberal
October 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
"Not that this is a good thing, but you should realize that this is an issue relating to the military industrial complex and their domination of politics, as eisenhower mentioned in the 1950s."
Yes, that's _one_ reason for the military aid, but it's hardly the only reason or even the most important one.
"That money was also spent to counter weight Soviet money and arms that was spent on Egypt and Syria from 1967 – 1990 and again was part of AMERICAN foreign policy to counter the Soviets, and similar to american foreign policy to aid anti Soviet governments around the world…. "
That's a plausible argument, but the Cold War has been over for two decades now.
"…and America has never fought FOR israel."
Simply false. While it's reasonable to argue that the early 1990s Gulf War had something to do with America fighting for American interests (i.e., preventing a single hegemon from dominating too large a fraction of the petro wealth of the middle east), it's impossible to argue that the 2003 invasion of Iraq did. If you consider the domestic politics behind the vilification of Iraq starting say mid-1990s and continuing after that, it's clear that the dominent driver of US policy there was the so-called Israel lobby and the neoconservatives.
"And finally, as for Netanyahu and his involvement in the US election…that is somewhat a matter of opinion as to whether he did so or not, however it is a reflection of him, and not of Israel. Israel did not get involved in the election, Netanyahu did."
When people refer to nation X, it's of course _always_ understood in such contexts as this as referring to the _government_ of X, not X as "the people of X." Although Israelis are, of course, responsible for putting Netanyahu in power.
Brian
October 4th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Bravo Mr. Giraldi! I suspect that many members of Congress who feel compelled to vote for AIPAC-drafted resolutions time and time again agree with you, but are too afraid for their jobs to come clean. Of course, polls show that the great majority of Jews in this country do not side with Israeli warmongering, but sadly the great bulk of Jewish money influencing domestic campaigns is solidly behind Bibi and his crowd. When someone like Romney publicly declares that he will cede U.S. Middle East policy to Israel and there's nary a peep from mainstream media outlets, something is bizarrely, tragically wrong.
I thought that Bibi's embarrassing moment at the UN might help to turn public opinion in the U.S. at least a little bit, but as you say, the mainstream coverage was sympathetic to the messenger, if not exactly to the way the message was delivered. I wish I had more hope, but I strongly suspect that Bibi will have his war through some sort of false flag operation, and we will inevitably get drawn in. (With regard to the Israeli agents celebrating the collapse of the Towers, I suppose the simplest explanation is that they knew what Al-Qaida was up to and chose not to disclose to the U.S. Equally plausible, at least to my mind, is that double-agent Israelis infiltrated Al-Qaida and actually ran some or all of the operation. I do not have the slightest doubt that some high-placed Israelis are capable of such atrocities in order to get the U.S. to act on their behalf.)
ABE
October 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
The world will say very soon to israel.
hasta luego chumps
sayounara jerkos
arrivederci strunes
Adieu satan
auf wiedersehen NWO scum
And when the world tells these parasite shylocks goodbye ; the parasite satanists will launch the
Samson Option on the world, just what we expect from the rotten filth
ML3
October 4th, 2012 at 11:48 am
I dislike Israel because they behave like a bunch of scumbag gangsters who are above the law and everything else.
You need a scythe the size of a small city to cut these supremacist bastards down to size.
ABE
October 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
israel tell your sub commanders to monitor their 180 because a U.S attack sub is on your Dolphin class noisemaker AND the second you open the weapons doors you will be sunk! HA ha. I would bet
the Russkies have your subs in their crosshairs too! We will send you our LOVE, sh-tbag!
liberranter
October 4th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I'm glad you spelled the "christian" with a lower-case "c." I don't know if it was intentional, but it was completely appropriate.
liberranter
October 4th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
EXACTLY
liberranter
October 4th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
"…the Israeli government is a rogue regime by most international standards, engaging as it does in torture, arbitrary imprisonment, and continued occupation of territories seized by its military." Does not this apply in spades to the US government?
Absolutely. The only question is which of the two countries is better at it or which of them originated it.
liberranter
October 4th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
You can fight petty corruption, but how can you fight mass insanity?
In the case of the pseudo-christian "fundaMENTAList" block, the answer is: with the truth. The more people who start seeing these religious perverts for what they really are, the more sickened people will become. This is already happening. It's just a matter of time before the revulsion the majority feels towards these nutcases will carry over to the causes they support.
liberranter
October 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Edelstein: Attack was example of destructive capability of terrorists sponsored by Iran
Actually, as despicable as this is, I fault less the Israeli-owned mouthpiece here for spewing this obvious BS than I do the Amoricon masses, both in and out of government, for swallowing it up as if it was the mother's milk of truth.
omop
October 4th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Its been said that self-inflicted ignorance leads to suicide. In this relationship the USA's disgraceful posture as a major power is to say the least more disgusting than Israel. The point should also be made that Americans in general "dislike" their government's sometime illicit relationship with Israel.
liberranter
October 4th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
…an excellent synopsis of why a national summit to address and reassess our "special relationship" with Israel is long overdue!!
I'm sure you're aware that anyone in a position of power who even seriouslysuggests such an event, let alone tries to organize one, will be the unfortunate recipient of a visit by a Mossad kidon team.
Mark Josephson
October 4th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
So in regards to the Lavon affair and the "Liberty" incident, I did not address then because the Lavon affair happened in 1952, and Lavon was forced out of government due to it, and because a false flag operation does not "damn" and entire country or people. The Liberty incident is controversial and discussing it gets into conspiracy theories etc. However, the point of everything I said is that one can find bad episodes in the history of every country, but the question is do they mean that the entire country is then to be "damned"? The Gulf of Tonkin incident does not condemn the United States to be an "evil and terrible" country, which is what this author is trying to say about Israel. Similarly, the episodes of corruption in Israel are no more "damning" to Israel than is Richard Nixon to America or Bill Clinton's lying about the Lewinsky affair. In fact, its laughable to suggest something like this.
I think that in regards to the 6 day war, I won't really address these statements of yours too much (because they are mostly devoid of content and filled with vituperative words except to mention that its worth noting that prior to the war Israel urged King Hussein to stay out of the war. He didn't, and so lost the West Bank (which Jordan had incidentally annexed)… so, does this sound like a "holy crusade" to seize territory?
Mark Josephson
October 4th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
You say its "impossible" to argue about the 2003 invasion of Iraq? Goodness. I think it would be quite easy to say that Oil interests in the United States, as well as George W. Bush's vendetta against Saddam (who tried to assassinate his dad) may have played a big role in mis-using the 9/11 attacks against Saddam. I also think one could imagine that it is easy to say that the outrage after 9/11 was also misused and directed against Iraq by a raging and wounded Superpower desiring to "hit" something. In fact, this was indeed the very strategy of Bin Laden — to draw America into sending troops into the Mid East to drain economic resources. I think that the Neoconservatives fell for this, the Oil interests pushed it (remember Haliburton?) and George W. Bush was far from able to intelligently realize that it was a trap. However, I won't be dishonest and would concede the following: I imagine that there is an element in which the neoconservatives who supported Israel felt that "getting rid of Saddam" would be good for Israel. I think that Israel probably thought this as well, and were only too pleased to see the US chomping at the bit to "get Saddam" and that the cosy relationship between Sharon and Bush did not help things. Personally, I would have left Saddam in place as a good counter-weight to Iran.
Finally I think your last comment is quite an impressive feat of rhetoric. You mention that it is "always understood" that you are referring to the the "government" and not the people, and yet in the next line, you blame the people for "putting Netanyahu in power". Classic.
baz
October 4th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
funny thing is they ( the settler movement) curse us in israel and wish they could kill us too
baz
October 4th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
indeed, washington is infested with traitors and israeli spies.
baz
October 4th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
haha, we were speaking just yesterday about how it is a necessary condition in american politics to be a socio/psychopath. hence people like Hillary, et al
baz
October 4th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
blah blah blah…
i did not get past the first sentence before being completely bored by this typical israeli propaganda hogwash…..
baz
October 4th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
i dont recall any iranians being arrested or any being caught filming the 9/11 attacks while jumping up and down and dancing on a rooftop!!!!
October 4, 2012 « Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?
October 4th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
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baz
October 4th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
If israel were so noble and so morally just, then why would it need to lie, deceive and manipulate??
i feel we are fighting a losing battle sometimes. Several weeks ago i spoke with some truly ignorant woman who claimed that palestine was an uninhabited territory before israel and that the jews built everything there….
another gentlemen thought that the entire israeli palestinian conflict was based on beliefs and that our beliefs were right and theirs are wrong…..i tried explaining that 3000 years of jurisprudence in human society was aimed at suppressing beiefs based justice in favor of fact based justice and that one could not simply make exceptions based on race or religion lest they run into major issues like slavery, dictatorship and genocide. He was unmoved by my argument, despite any analogy or evidence i gave
how do you get through to these people? the fact is that people are stupid until they experience major pain. I figure we need to have a disastrous war before the truth starts becoming relevant.
bluenomad
October 4th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Christian used as an adjective doesn't need a capital C.
Ex-CIA Station Chief Phil Giraldi Fires Both Barrels: "Why I Dislike Israel"
October 4th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
[...] Israel" … and he speaks for many old-line "Americanist" intel officers. Why I Dislike Israel by Philip Giraldi — Antiwar.com As an off-topic aside, has anybody actually seen these in operation? Deadliest weapons [...]
Mark Josephson
October 4th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I must say its nice that you use the word "shylocks". It kind of unmasks who you are, doesn't it?
bluenomad
October 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Been there. A fascist dump full of testosterone and chauvinist racists!
Weapons everywhere and the hatred for anything Semite Arabs is palpable.
An awful middle-east dumps, really.
A place where life is cheap and where nastiness toppled by corruption everywhere.
Mark
October 4th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
In a couple weeks the presidential debates will focus on Foreign Policy. It will in interesting(disgusting?) to see how Obama and Romney will compete to prove their the most Israeli-centric. Will they get into shouting match over who is more circumcised? What is more disturbing is both would probably have no problem proving it in public if it meant Tel Aviv's support.
Mike
October 4th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
It's almost hilarious how blame for 9/11 is so….elastic. It changes with the wind. Pathetic.
Sam
October 4th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I do like Haaretz, Gedeon Ley, Bradley, Hamira Has, Averny and the immense jewish contribution to human civilisation(Newton, Spinoza, Einstein, Spielberg, Zuckerberg,…). But the harsh traetement of the palestinians , the warmongering,occupation etc..have to stop and should be corrected.We should be able to realise peace.Hope and Peace upon all.
mark g.
October 4th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Sorry Mark, but the shoe fits. 'Shylock' is the perfect term for these greedy human parasites. That's right: ;greedy human parasites'.
Shawn
October 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
It is amazing how much Israel has become like its own bogieman, the Nazi's . . . The Nazi's were all about acquiring "lebensraum", and that is what Israel is all about. They do not want to build up, they want to build out, and do so at every opportunity they can get. Pretty soon they will be tearing down their own walls so they can move them out more. As the Nazi's were highly racist, so too is Israel . . . . just take a look at their entry and citizenship requirements, if you are jewish, you are their best buddy, but if not, you are persona non grata. Also, an Arab married to an Israeli finds it nearly impossible to gain citizenship, and will most likely be kicked out of the country.
David762
October 4th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
I would suggest that you take a look to 2012 Presidential candidate Marvin Miller of the American 3rd Way Party. He actually flew to Tehran for an interview with PressTV, something I have not seen any other Presidential candidate do, ever. He is an America-firster, but not such a radical "free enterprise" capitalist as Ron Paul who would totally unfetter the multinational corporations. If he had a wider following, he would have already gotten the "Jim Traficanto" treatment by the PTB.
third of three
October 4th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
But the CIA man collecting a Government pension is good.
"Sowing in the morning, sowing seeds of kindness,
Sowing in the noontide and the dewy eve;
Waiting for the harvest, and the time of reaping,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves.
Refrain
Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheaves,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves,
Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheaves,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves,
Sowing in the sunshine, sowing in the shadows,
Fearing neither clouds nor winter’s chilling breeze;
By and by the harvest, and the labor ended,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves.
Refrain
Going forth with weeping, sowing for the Master,
Though the loss sustained our spirit often grieves;
When our weeping’s over, He will bid us welcome,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves."
jinx77
October 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
heck why dont they just go to israel and do the debate…
wait they will be in Boca Rotan…..heart of jewries gated communities
paddy
October 4th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Haaretz: Iraq 2002, Iran 2012: Compare and contrast Netanyahu's speeches
The arguments are the same, the intonation is the same, even the advisers are the same
A video clip from the 2002 hearing has been making the rounds of the Internet over the past few days, after it was posted by American blogger Jim Lobe at almost the same time as Netanyahu was addressing the United Nations General Assembly last week…
Netanyahu’s remarks during the 2002 congressional hearing sounded very similar to his UN speech. The arguments are the same, the intonation is the same, even the advisers are the same – Netanyahu’s current diplomatic adviser, Ron Dermer, who wrote the prime minister’s UN address, can be seen in the 10-year-old video sitting behind Netanyahu in the congressional hall…
Aside from the fact that both Dermer and Netanyahu look 10 years younger, the primary difference between the two videos is one word: 2002’s Iraq has been replaced by Iran in 2012. Here are some more quotes… http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/diplomania/iraq-2002…
third of three
October 4th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Sheath is singular to sheaves. Sheath is where you put you sword. Read it again.
War is Peace.
Mike
October 4th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
"…. but not such a radical "free enterprise" capitalist as Ron Paul who would totally unfetter the multinational corporations."
So in other words you're another moron whose an economic illiterate.
Next….
Mike
October 4th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Testosterone isn't the problem. Politicians are. Always have been, always will be until people stop taking orders from these sociopaths.
third of three
October 4th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
The third dimension, the third rock from the sun. I believe it was Jung who said that the family is in threes. I could be wrong it was a long time ago. The first is the smartest, the second insignificant, and the third while not the smartest or the best goes furthest. So that if you had 6 children the first group of three and the second group of three would hold to these same principles.There are six kingdoms, ocean, plant, animal, human, sky, universe. Human is third from the top.
The "Third Way" is a death sentence, they are not a true three.
ABE
October 4th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
israeli forefathers shouldn't have killed Christ! Pay back is the world deplores you and they can not put their finger on why BUT the deplore YOU!
ABE
October 4th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
A stupid ancestor of israel shouted in 33 ad,; " May HIS blood be on us and that of our children" STUPID ASS…..Stupid dumb ass!
third of three
October 4th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
The Third Way retards are not natural. What number they are I don't know, but they are not three.
ABE
October 4th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
I do not wear a mask. Shylocks, shysters, scum
Why I dislike Israel (by Philip Giraldi)
October 4th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
[...] http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/10/03/why-i-dislike-israel/ Posted in Zionist Threat « De Borchgrave: Romney Would Stand Behind Israel in Pre-emptive Strike [...]
third of three
October 4th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
You bring in the dead, sowing for the Master.
ouchosparks
October 4th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Brilliant. Our ruling elites are socialists, for Israelis. You can't make this shit up.
Bibi did upstage Colon (sic) Powell at the U.N. The little fuckwit warmonger, of his successor, will get his way. The USA at this juncture is incapable of not waging war as it descends into full-blown national madness.
third of three
October 4th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
The whole point of the UN initially was the to stop the proliferation of nuke weapons. Well you could not have an organization to stop something that was not proliferating, therefore to stop it it must proliferate. In order for the UN to survive there must be something to make it survivable. It must have a mission. Same as Democrats. What would Democrats do if there were no poor? What would Democrats do if the whites and blacks, and asians and others did not fight? What would republicans do if the democrats did not fight them. What would they do if the Muslims just said whatever.
There is a difference in asking for peace and having peace. Peace starts with you the individual. If you have to ask for peace it is because you have none.
third of three
October 4th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
There is nothing in the world that stops you from having peace. Peace starts with you, the individual. It isn't giving peace but having peace. You yourself having peace. You cannot save others as much as you want to, because to do so to choose sides. Once you choose sides then you must have friends and enemy's. Choose a side and you will choose the wrong one. There is no side to choose. If you want peace then be peaceful.
On an airplane, they tell you, put your mask on first.
Fixin To Die Rag
October 4th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
In regards to the Golan Heights, follow the water. There is a major aquifer that run under it, and in the desert, water is like gold.
split
October 4th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
A brain dead pinheads ,… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IoCZO98CEs
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the block of 40 to 50 million "Christian fundamentalists"
Fixin To Die Rag
October 4th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
In regards to the comments made by Patrick Clawson, director of research for the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
If you wanted to do it right, slip in a commando team into Iran, capture a Silkworm anti ship missile, launch at what ever ship we still have in the gulf, you don’t need to hit a ship, the launching of a missile will be the triggered for a false flag response that will drag us into another undesirable war.
Pray for a early and wet winter in Iran.
Why I Dislike Israel – Philip Giraldi | Intifada Palestine
October 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
[...] Source: Antiwar.com [...]
split
October 4th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
If this is such a good investment why there're no other business oriented governments lining up to get those contracts ? – Why don't we simply give those 3 billions directly to to the workers and tell them to spend some time with their latchkey kids or go fishing,…
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a way for the US government to invest 3 billion dollars a year back into america
REAL NEWS Oct 05 2012 « DaniMartExtras, Too
October 4th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
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ernie yacub
October 4th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
tell them israel is not winning them any friends and a much more virulent anti-semitism may take root when people wake up to the horror that zionism has wrought – its in their own personal interest to reign in the beast or at least stop sending money and singing its praises.
liberal
October 5th, 2012 at 12:52 am
"You mention that it is "always understood" that you are referring to the the 'government' and not the people, and yet in the next line, you blame the people for 'putting Netanyahu in power'. Classic. "
LOL. I clearly meant when people refer to "Country X" _with no additional qualifiers_. When people refer to "the people of Country X", they're referring to "the people of Country X".
"I think it would be quite easy to say that Oil interests in the United States, as well as George W. Bush's vendetta against Saddam (who tried to assassinate his dad) may have played a big role in mis-using the 9/11 attacks against Saddam."
You can argue that all you want. There's lots of documentary evidence that the neocons were plotting to get rid of Saddam since at least the mid-1990s. There's zero evidence (AFAICT) that the oil interests were.
Giraldi : Why I Dislike Israel | My Catbird Seat
October 5th, 2012 at 1:51 am
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split
October 5th, 2012 at 4:10 am
Crap, read the signatures uder those letters ,…
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonlett…
http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm
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I think it would be quite easy to say that Oil interests in the United States, as well as George W. Bush's vendetta against Saddam
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October 5th, 2012 at 4:29 am
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JoaoAlfaiate
October 5th, 2012 at 5:21 am
No, Mark, it unmasks who you are.
WTE
October 5th, 2012 at 5:26 am
I always spell it with a loer case "c".
They don't deserve a 'C'"
Kolya_Krassotkin
October 5th, 2012 at 7:18 am
I dunno? Cut out its tongue?
truthbug
October 5th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Why so aggressive Mike? Just because David has a different view than you do about Ron Paul?
truthbug
October 5th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Then tell them they know what to do with their name-calling.
Guest
October 5th, 2012 at 8:03 am
" its basically a way for the US government to invest 3 billion dollars a year back into america, "
How has thisworked out for US tax payers or workers or for uS buisness?
China and India and England and scores other country invest in US not underwritten by uS tax payers. Israel should do that.
US money has stopped israel going bankrupt in 80s and has essentially helped the settlement project. Reemebr taht 10 Billion that Bush Sr wanted to withhold from Shamir that cost him his election
truthbug
October 5th, 2012 at 8:03 am
And don't forget the fact that Israeli firms are now imbedded in the US government's surveillance of its own citizens. Apparently, Israel has advanced data processing firms that the US government relies on, and Israelis have wide access to the data itself. If your interested, Google the following names: Narus, Comverse, Verint, NICE, UNIT8200.
truthbug
October 5th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Yes it does. Though the US/Israeli relationship is unique in how they have worsened each others transgressions in this regard. The US/Israeli alliance is truly unholy.
guest
October 5th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Thank you L:iberal
It is also known that it was Israeli who walted to kill Bush Sr in Madrid ( Spain ). If that was the reaosn why Bush Jr did not invade Israel.
Also if that kind of reaosn is in play why did not Bush Jr did not throw the AIPAC card holders from the administartion or cabinet despite the fact that those Zionist plotted the election defeat of Bush Sr
truthbug
October 5th, 2012 at 8:26 am
"However, I won't be dishonest and would concede the following: I imagine that there is an element in which the neoconservatives…"
Well then, I think you'd agree that there is truth to the statement that the US has fought wars for Israel. After all, who are you to judge the priorities in the minds of the neo-conservatives, virtually all Zionist supporters of Israel?
Guest
October 5th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Iraq and now Iran always wanted to sell oil to any body including to US.Oil industry has always wanted to do business with them
The argumnet of the Zionist is same as it was in 1947 that the economi and geopolitical interest of US should not undercut the interest of Israel
Oil indsutry does not benfeit form war or from US ownership of oil fields. Oil industry never wanted the war .we blame intelligence for Iraq war so that we dont have look at the machinations of Abrams,Feith,Kagan,Wolfoweitz,Perle,and Sharon from Israel and now we have found out that putting the blame on Oil would sound convincing to public here and abroad and absolve the PNAC members , AEI mebers ,the interconnected media,OSP ,and Sharon's Israe;i copunterpart of any roles in driving US to war aginst ME country soley for Israel. Yes it was Iraq but they could have chosen any other country and effect would have been same. Iraq was easy to choose for over 10 years it has been demonized by Israeli centric media conditioning public for an attack .
guest
October 5th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Next year Israel will commemortae 911 saying how Pakistan and next to next year how Egypt inspired the 911.It has always serveed the Israeli well.
PEACE EVER AFTER
October 5th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Your best article yet but you should have also mentioned the probable Zionist involvement in 911 .
james
October 5th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Look you sick f*ck,, the Lavon affair is the Sh*tty little states modus operandi until now. They were founded on terrorism, false flags and deception. No amount of bullsh*t can change this fact, and anybody defending them on these grounds is disingenuous at best.
Go bark under another tree.
America-Firster
October 5th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
"9 Sept: Israel Hayom: Israeli delegation honors 9/11 victims at Ground Zero
Edelstein:"
Did you forget about that ceremony Israel also had honoring David Pollard?
San Fernando Curt
October 5th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
When stabbing is the purpose, any convenient back will do.
San Fernando Curt
October 5th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Newton wasn't Jewish.
Doug_in_Indiana
October 5th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Careful here Mark. You should know that circumcision is also a Muslim rite. If this happened Homeland Security might have to haul them both away. Probably both of them know nothing about this since they seem totally ignorant of their enemies, like 5 year-olds playing cowboys and Indians.
Jane
October 5th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Excellent point! How the hell does giving an illegal settler colony 3 bill of US tax payer money to then be spent back in the US benefit America in any way, shape or form?? It's also a fact that Israel DOES NOT spend all that money back in the US. I HATE that our taxes go to funding their wars of aggression against the Palestinians and other neighbors. There's blood on all of our hands for standing by and allowing this to go on!
Only the parasitic Israel could work out such a "sweetheart" deal with the good ole USA – the land of the sheep and home of the slave!
Jane
October 5th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
With "friends" like them, who needs and enema????
Jane
October 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Hey, third of three, go soak your head in a pail of black coffee and sober up!!
Mark Josephson
October 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
So, to review what it means to "fight a war for" somebody. The US fought a war for the United Kingdom and France in World war 2. It fought a war for Korea in the 1950s. It fought a war for Vietnam in the 1960s and 70s. It fought a war for Kuwait in the 1990s. In other words, American troops were in these countries, and died in those countries. You say that the US fought "wars" for Israel. I am not sure which "wars" you are referring to. I can imagine that there is one war that there is, yes, honestly, a connection to Israel. So lets address it:
The US war in Iraq. Note that it was not fought from Israeli territory and Israel was not under attack during that war. For some reason, the Kuwaitis were very willing to host American troops on their soil to launch an attack on Iraq. I recall immediately after the 9/11 attacks Americans who were watching the TV in the same room as I turned to each other and said "we need to bomb whoever sent those people to the ground…". George W. Bush, who was a mental midget, Cheney, for his own crazy reasons, and a lot of other very small minded people decided to invade Iraq. I have no doubt (in fact I know) that Israel also played a role in getting America to invade Iraq. The United Kingdom also went along with this. However, I think that to blame Israel solely, primarily or even in the list of top 3 reasons for the war in Iraq in 2003 underestimates how traumatized America was after 9/11 and how an incompetent government fell for the exact trap that Osama bin laden set to lay — to get Americans to die in large numbers in the middle east in order to waste blood and treasure, and that various Iraqi opponents to the regime (remember Ahmad Chalabi?) also vigorously participated in providing false information to the CIA about various weapons of mass destruction programs to prompt an invasion. The war in Iraq was something of a frothing, blindly raging elephant stampede as a result of a bee sting, encouraged by many actors. It was foisted on America by a lot of interests, and those interests include Israel whose intelligence participated in the disaster which was the lead up to the Iraq war. Unlike this article and all the people crying "shylock" on this website, I won't be purposefully dishonest to promote whatever my agenda is. But to simply draw a line from Israel to the 2003 Iraq war, ignoring so many others is dishonest. And to say that America "fought wars for Israel", coming back to the central point of what it means to "fight a war' for somebody, is completely dishonest.
Mark Josephson
October 5th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
good, them i'm proud, and I want you to know that whoever you people are who want to kill the Jews again, it will never happen :) the call of shylock and "Jew" and whatever other terms is simply racism and hatred, and i've experienced it personally, and I for one am very happy that you are so jealous. I am happy that the average Israeli has a per capita income higher than most of you, lives in a free country with their large families, enjoys an excellent transportation and infrastructure system and free health care, that Israeli universities and companies are inventing and creating more in one day than you could every dream of in your entire life, and that Jews in Israel have a strong army to defend themselves against your hate. I am sure that your happy dreams are nothing more than to build railroad tracks and concentration camps for all the Jews in Israel, and guess what — its never going to happen. The Jewish people are never going to be victims of you and and your ilk again. One day, there will also be peace in the middle east, and Palestinians (who I have worked with, helped, had them help me, so I know its possible) and Jews will be able to live in peace through negotiations. and those people who have nothing whatsoever to do with Israel except that they are infected with hate for Jews (and in some cases may have never even had much of anything to do with a Jew in their life) will turn their attention to whatever other hated "parasite" they want to blame for their own miserable failures in life.
Jane
October 5th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Yes, they are ignorant of their true enemy – the one dictating to both of these weaklings. While we run around the world with our Wars on Terror and looking under every rock for terrorists, spilling blood and treasure, the real enemy/terrorist is right here in our midst dominating all branches of our government, our political system, our legal system, our banking system, science and medicine, our media, the entertainment industry and all so that they can control and manipulate the message and the outcome. That is the true enemy of our Republic and the enemy of all civilized societies where they have been allowed to infiltrate and seize control.
split
October 5th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Here's another example of "sweetheart" deal, a one way street to Israel that sucking sound of our technologies and jobs ending up in Israel ,…
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/u-s…
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such a "sweetheart" deal with the good ole USA
Jane
October 5th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Again, you're splitting hairs over what it means "to fight a war" for somebody and down-playing the tremendous influence the Israel Lobby has on the Office of the President and the Senate and Congress in dragging the US to war. The fact that YOU are not being honest about this is not lost on almost all of the bloggers on this site.
The usual cast of rabid Zionists had been ginning for a war with Iraq and Iran since at least the mid 1990's. In the run up to the Iraq war, they trotted out their faithful mideast "experts" like, Perle, Fromme, Wolfowitz, that disgusting creature, Michael Ledeen, Gaffney, Pletska, Feith and numerous other "fellows" from the AEI and other Washington think-tanks. We are all familiar with the names and faces. You couldn't turn on the T.V. without seeing one of their mugs on the major news outlets spouting their islamo-phobic screed in every direction. A couple of them were even signers of the two PNAC letters served up to both Clinton and Bush. And yes, I agree with you in that it took an ex-drunken moron like Bush and a rabid idealogue like Cheney among others, to help usher in their neocon idealogical wet-dream for mid-east wars without end and mid-east hegemony. It even took a Supreme Court ruling to make sure that they got their little moron cowboy into office because they had big plans and needed the useful idiot who they knew would play neocon ball with them. He could NOT be allowed to lose. NEVER to my knowledge has a presidential election required a Supreme Court ruling in my country!
They sold it as an easy campaign winning hearts and minds and spreading democracy when the reality was and is anything but. What can we expect from a bunch of bum-sitting, dual loyalist pencil necks when not one of these cowards had served in the military or seen action on a battlefield! And not one of the "brilliant" war strategies these brainiacs cooked up and served to the Oval Office actually worked on the ground – no big surprise there! When things started rapidly going downhill after Mission Accomplished, these snakes seemed to slither back under their rocks to lay low for a bit.They obviously didn't want to become targets of a possible backlash. I've noticed recently that some of them have reared their ugly heads and are making the rounds banging the drums of war again – only this time for war with Iran.
These dual-loyalist need to be irradicated from their cushy positions of influence and frog-marched before a tribunal for war crimes. The neocons sure got and are still getting a lot of mileage out of the tragedy of 911 and it begs the question of what did some folks know and when did they know it. Another useful idiot of this gang, Patrick Clawson, mentioned a whole laundry list of false flag ops before a sniggering neocon audience, which were employed in the past to get us to war, so it may not be such a stretch to question the official verdict of 911.
Be honest with yourself and the rest of us because we Americans are increasingly disgusted by these proxy wars we fight where no one really benefits from these wars save Israel. Americans have NO business fighting wars in that region where NO ONE is a threat to us and if Israel feels threatened out there, then they should stop their wars of aggression with their neighbors, lift the blockade on the Palestinians and get their asses back to pre-67 borders.
baz
October 5th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
I have just heard that turkish and israeli intelligence are co-operating with the al-qaeda terrorists to hunt down and kill iranians and hezbollah in syria. Israel is intercepting the iranian/hezbollah communications and locations (via satellite) and passing the info to turkey which is in turn giving the info to al qaeda. The covert war between iran and israel is becoming much more overt with the Turks now getting involved. This is a powderkeg ready to explode. it could resut in actual shooting between iran and turkey much to the delight of the racist israeli regime.
also heard that iran is trying to ship 100m in cash back to iran secretly from turkey but the turks are giving them grief over their accounts there
Jane
October 5th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
" remember Ahmed Chalabi?"
Yes, we all remember the darling of the neocons, Ahmed Chalabi, poor bastard was paid millions for his "help" in touting the WMD lie to US Intelligence and then fell out of favor when he threatened to expose the corruption and profiteering in the Oil for Food Program and was thrown under the bus.
Here's a quote from Wikipedia:
"Initially, Chalabi enjoyed close political and business relationships with some members of the U.S. government, including some prominent neoconservatives within the Pentagon. Chalabi is said to have had political contacts within the Project for the New American Century, most notably with Paul Wolfowitz, a student of nuclear strategist Albert Wohlstetter, and Richard Perle."
Mr. Josephson, as is often the case with the arrogant Israel-firsters, you underestimate the intelligence of the rest of us and assume that we are all stupid, ignorant of history – both recent and past and uninformed.
Antiwar.com Newsletter | October 5, 2012 « Antiwar.com Blog
October 5th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
[...] Philip Giraldi explained why he’s no fan of Israel. [...]
Mark Josephson
October 6th, 2012 at 5:20 am
You know, i don't disagree that these neo-conservatives are not nice people who have their own agenda. but this article was titled "why i dislike israel." should it not have been titled "why i dislike neoconservatives". all the anger i hear is about these guys, but israel itself? you can't draw a straight line from israel to these guys. i know israel very very well. israelis are a complex society filled with a full political spectrum from extreme liberal to extreme conservative, and like any country, most people just want to go to work, have kids and get along. so, to paint an entire country with hateful brush (and worse, to call people hateful names as so many on this forum are doing), because of the people you name (wolfowitz, perle etc), is like me saying that all americans are corrupt because of richard nixon…its bizarre. don't you see it?
Mike
October 6th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
No because he's full of s**t. His ignorant view are actually perpetuating the problem not solving it.
Louisa Collins
October 6th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Thank you, I was hoping for a voice of reason.
Joneve McCormick
October 6th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Ditto.
john
October 6th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Reading Meir Kahane in the early 1980's initiated my understanding. The AWACS sale took place and Reagan won. It has been a painful sight ever since. Who foretold the affect zionism would have on American body politic? J. William Fulbright was one.
SolaScriptura
October 7th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Thanks for the article PhiIip. But you do not mention that your same argument is the reason why many people in South America and the Middle East hate the US and its citizens: a country that repeatedly votes in representatives who carry out state-sponsored terrorism (and protects them from justice) tells you alot about their people….
mickperry
October 7th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Not the same thing at all SolaScriptura. You only have to go back to the founding of the USA itself to note the stark differences.
Today we see the descendants of the original native Americans living prosperous lives alongside those of the peace loving migrants who began arriving after 1492.
Most North American children are able to point to friends who are Sioux or Navaho etc.
To imply otherwise is clearly anti American. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/22/un-in…
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October 7th, 2012 at 7:10 am
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Jane
October 7th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I guess what you're missing, whether deliberately or not, is that as true Americans, (those of us without dual loyalties), we do not see the distinction between the the rabid Zionists that have hijacked our foreign policy and our political system for Israel's benefit and the rabid Zionists who have been elected to run Israel (into the ground it would appear). It is one in the same to Americans and yes, we see a straight, unbroken line from Washington to Tel Aviv and back again.
Americans have begun to wake up and see that they truly are living in Israeli Occupied Territory and are wondering how this happened and how it became so pervasive. (Weak and disgusting elected officials that have been bribed, blackmailed and threatened to push the Israel Lobby's agenda and sell out America) And rapidly on the heels of that eye-opener, comes the realization that under this foul influence, we may be sharing the Palestinian's fate REAL soon.
Something else which is not lost on most of us, is the total lack of humanity and compassion that seems common among the average Israeli. I guess this is what comes of several decades of bloody and violent occupation of someone else's land – a hard, jaded attitude to the abject suffering of others.This is also the result of being isolated and brainwashed by their leaders' propaganda – it has shaped the collective Israeli psyche with few exceptions and rendered them incapable of stepping out and viewing Israel through the eyes of the world. I think that if more Israeli's had the guts to do this, they would be quite horrified at what they see all around them as well as within themselves. I know there are some Israelis who have done this and are fighting the good fight and speaking truth to power – hopefully their efforts will help to awaken the vast majority and make them realize that as is true with regard to the US, Israel's whole survival is at stake if change does not come soon.
"and like any country, most people just want to go to work, have kids and get along."
This is what I mean, most people with a conscience, would find it very difficult to blithely go about their lives with so many inhumane crimes and such suffering occurring just the other side of the "security fence" – the results of an illegal and brutal occupation of a people. We hear very few dissident Israeli voices advocating on behalf of their suffering neighbors, the Palestinians, on whose land they've set up shop. The only time we see Israelis in the streets, is when it concerns themselves and their own standard of living, like the recent social justice protests which as Americans who have provided over 123 million dollars of hard-earned tax money and who are experiencing our own austerity, you must forgive us our lack of sympathy
I see this with a certain sect (fortunately a shrinking one) here in the US as well. The absolute lack of compassion for the peoples of the mid-east nations we have bombed and destroyed as a result of the unprecedented influence of a tiny cabal that seems to have the nuts of our elected officials in a vice to act on behalf of a tiny foreign entity that sits out in the middle of these nations.
Mark, I suspect you know the truth of a lot of what you've read in these discussions and I admire your guts for continuing to muster your opposing responses. Your arguments for the most part are weak and you trot out the same propaganda that we have been asked to believe by the powers that be – it's too late for that now!! We will never again be spoon-fed that shit and believe it! Once you have been awakened you can not dawn the rose-colored glasses and assume the prenatal position again.
I think you are basically a good person who maintained the high ground in your arguments and did not resort to ugly name-calling and "vituperative" rhetoric. However, you were not always honest and only presented half the story in most cases.
Jane
October 7th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Bravo, bravo Mr. Giraldi!!!
Jane
October 7th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
CORRECTION: 123 BILLION dollars of hard-earned US taxpayer dollars!!!
split
October 7th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
"(those of us without dual loyalties)" – You can't be loyal to two entities with different interests, either you loyal or not ,…
Amen to the rest of your arguments, right on the target and brilliant, thanks ,…
split
October 7th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RIP Senator – A last US Mohican on Capitol Hill ,…
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J. William Fulbright was one.
liberranter
October 8th, 2012 at 11:33 am
I would LOVE to corral several dozen "representative" fundamentalist clergy (or maybe the last graduating class from Bob Jones "University" Theological Seminary would do) into a room and COMPEL them to explain their continued support for the Zionist State after hearing the boastful words of the settler in this video. I can only imagine the sophistic, dissembling, utterly nonsensical BS –probably laced with verbal violence and displaced emotional histrionics– that would accompany any such "explanation."
liberranter
October 8th, 2012 at 11:42 am
good, them i'm proud, and I want you to know that whoever you people are who want to kill the Jews again, it will never happen
Nice try, bonehead, but NO ONE here –and I've read over the responses to your nonsense, as well as general comments in response to Phil's article– has advocated "kill[ing] the Jews." That threat exists only in your and your Zionist idols' feverish, deluded, sick little minds.
That's the difference between the majority here and you and your Zionist idols: we don't believe in killing people wholesale for some twisted, perverted, racist, pseudo-religious fairy tale.
liberranter
October 8th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Today we see the descendants of the original native Americans living prosperous lives alongside those of the peace loving migrants who began arriving after 1492.
Most North American children are able to point to friends who are Sioux or Navaho etc.
To imply otherwise is clearly anti American. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/22/un-in…” target=”_blank”>http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/22/un-in…
PLEASE, Mick, tell me you posted this out of sarcasm. If you meant this seriously, you've obviously never spent any time in America.
"Bits & Pieces" - October 8th, 2012 | jeff-goodall
October 8th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
[...] Former CIA officer Philip Giraldi writes on “Why I Dislike Israel”. [...]
Mark Dankof Responds to the ADL Hit Piece on Press TV Iran « Mark Dankof's America
October 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
[...] is entrusted with favorably representing. Philip Giraldi’s recent essay entitled, “Why I Dislike Israel,” is a brief summation of what many of us publicly observe who are guests on Press TV Iran. [...]
mickperry
October 9th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Belated apologies liberranter, and yes, pure sarcasm, as the link indicates,
#PALESTINE NEWS | Oct 8, 2012 | Occupied Palestine | فلسطين
October 9th, 2012 at 12:36 am
[...] Why I Dislike Israel ~ by Philip Giraldi http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/10/03/why-i-dislike-israel [...]
john
October 9th, 2012 at 4:32 am
Not to mention those Mossad agents celebrating at Liberty Park with the Trade Towers collapsing in the background. They all failed lie detector tests, and ther interviews cannot be released even under the Freedom of Information act. What "incident" are they planning now?
Mark Dankof Responds to the ADL Hit Piece on Press TV Iran | SHOAH
October 9th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
[...] the ADL is entrusted with favorably representing. Philip Giraldi’s recent essay entitled, “Why I Dislike Israel,” is a brief summation of what many of us publicly observe who are guests on Press TV Iran. [...]
Mark Josephson
October 9th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
have you ever been to israel? I have, many times, worked with both Israelis and Palestinians. They are people, just like any other people, with families and jobs and homes. And just like any other people, they want to live in peace. One israelis and palestinians will be able to come together so that the majority can do what the majority of people on both sides want to do — live in peace. its wrong to paint an entire people with a brush suggesting that they are all somehow evil or "lacking compassion". Its this kind of generalization (typically without any exposure to these hated people) that has led to hate all over the world. In a lot of countries people are inculcated with this type of hatred from birth…and its a self defeating circle of hate.
The Day the Earth Stood Still « Sunni Ship
October 9th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
[...] Below is an extract from his article: http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/10/03/why-i-dislike-israel/ [...]
Eileen Kuch
October 9th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Believe me, buddy, they already are. One thing Americans have never tolerated (nor will they now) is any kind of foreign interference in their domestic elections; and, Bibi is no exception. He was forced to back out. President Obama snubbed him when he came to New York to speak at the annual meeting of the UN General Assembly.
That's right; Obama declined Bibi's call for a meeting before the speech he would give before this body. It was courageous on the President's part; but, the interfering Israeli PM had to be put in his place. It's long time that this s****y little country be put in its place.
Israel the world’s most dangerous terrorist pseudo state | Meine Weltanschauung und Gedanken
October 10th, 2012 at 3:40 am
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“Why I Dislike Israel”? Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer « Adonis Diaries
October 10th, 2012 at 4:21 am
[...] Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, is a contributing editor to The American Conservative and executive director of the Council for the National Interest. His article was originally posted at AntiWar [...]
E.Hartogs
October 10th, 2012 at 6:35 am
So much nonsense in one article that I just stopped reading it in the middle. Yes many of Israeli politicians were convicted for different crimes, attesting to the open society that Israel is and the fact that on one is above the law. One of the High-Court judges that convicted former President Katsav is an Arab Israeli. Nowhere else in the Middle-East could something like this happen. Only someone not democratic would use an investigation, where the investigated was exhonerated, against him. The USS Liberty has been investigated and it has been proven that it was a case of mistaken identity. The Turkis American on the Marmara was one of the ones that try to lynch the Israeli's that came to inspect the boat for weapons. Netanyahu did not "appear" in an ad for Romney. Romney just used footage of Netanyahu for his campaign. Big difference, but not to those who wish to blacken Israel's name.
E.Hartogs
October 10th, 2012 at 7:44 am
I complement you for not loosing your cool in the middle of the vicious attacks on you and your balanced comments. The language used by the anti Zionists here is as low as the intellect behind their claims. This must be the most one-sided forum I have ever had the displeasure of reading. The fact that they need so many lies and conpiracy theories to attack Israel only strengthens my conviction about the just cause of that fantastic country Israel. Now let's see what will crawl from under the stones, after my last observation…
james
October 10th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
UYes Ma'am, Israel is like mafia, they kill and walk the guys funeral.
NYPD concern about ‘Iran terror’ should put U.S. security on alert « The Passionate Attachment
October 11th, 2012 at 5:30 am
[...] “criminal state” of Israel — with its sordid history of false flag attacks and other crimes against the United States as well as its ongoing dubious propaganda campaign of allegations against [...]
@undefined
October 11th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
So much lunatic Antisemitism in so small minds and site? Gosh…. you're desperate!!!!!
@undefined
October 11th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Where the US fought for Israel? Israel didn't send you to fight in Korea, Vietnam, Latin America, Iraq twice, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan……… it was American choice for American interests as the fool Americans saw them. You're big bunch of losers, take responsibility for your deed and don't blame Israel for your arogant stupidity and failure !!!!!!
Enough Already
October 13th, 2012 at 6:07 am
No, in fact YOU'RE desperate. What a weak response. You have nothing to say except trying the now useless anti-semitism shtick. That doesn't work anymore. Everyone sees through it. Even your own Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni said: "It's a trick. We always use it when people are criticising Israel." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE
Lets repeat the facts ad nauseum in case anyone in the world still hasn't figured it out and is still susceptible to this disingenuous garbage:
1) Making valid observations about a country's policies has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's religion. So let's drop this non-sequitur once and for all.
2) Surprise: Arabs are semites. Not that you didn't know that. It always amazes me that you end up inadvertently defending them. But the world has played along with ignoring that fact and humoring you. Not any more.
Therefore, brandishing that pointless statement is not just futile but frankly ridiculous and illogical. Also, you must be a truly low level shill if that's all you can come up with.
If you want to up your salary, and get |a nice bonus'; see 'Diary of an Israeli Shill' for more tips on how to derail a logical discussion with lies, insults, detours, and when all else fails, that hackneyed antisemitism routine.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/12/diary-of-…
NYPD concern about ‘Iran terror’ should put U.S. security on alert - Conservative Read
October 13th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
[...] Bureau and the “criminal state” of Israel — with its sordid history of false flag attacks and other crimes against the United States as well as its ongoing dubious propaganda campaign of allegations against [...]
Giraldi: Why I Dislike Israel | SOLIDARITY MOVEMENTSOLIDARITY MOVEMENT
October 14th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
[...] Source : Antiwar.com [...]
Kolya_Krassotkin
October 19th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Criticizing Israel makes one no more "anti-semitic" than criticizing the USSR made one anti-Russian or criticizing the policies of the Chinese government makes one anti-Chinese. While I feel for you, my guess is that your Jewish friends have been so indoctrinated that they can't see how valid criticism of Israel's policies is not "anti-semitism." (I have found myself in a similar situation.) Try to educate them or to live with the ambiguity of saying nothing, (it isn't easy), or find new friends.
George R.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Thank you Mr. Geraldi.
I really agree with evething you written. The gaul of Netanyahu to intefere on American tv in an American election. I call my wfe in when I saw him on the tv we couldn't believe the utter arrogance.
Who do the Israeli's think they are to have thier president act like he has the right to talk down to the US
Whats more none of the canidates or our government made a peep. We know now that Jewish lobby has got to be fought. AIPAC & INEP Clawsons bunch need a good kick in the you know what.
POSEPO, avagy az Avas tanulsága és a pörzsölő pörzsölődése | Rajtmester
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 am
[...] haszonelvűségét illeti, álljon itt egy amerikai idézet egy bizonyos Philip Giralditól (http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/10/03/why-i-dislike-israel/ ): az izraeli „kormányok … lényegében egy hosszú életű bűnügyi vállalkozás részesei, [...]
Pártfinanszírozás és a liberális hazugságkultúra | Rajtmester
December 11th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
[...] mi van?” Előzetesen egy amerikai „médiamunkást”, egy bizonyos Philip Giraldit idéznék (http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/10/03/why-i-dislike-israel/ ): „az izraeli „kormányok … lényegében egy hosszú életű bűnügyi vállalkozás [...]
pete
January 4th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
If he ran for Preident he would I am sure meet with an unfortunate and fatal accident as do most people who dont want to kiss israels ass.
pete
January 4th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
First of all their has never been the slightist bit of evidense linking Iran to 9-11. Iran is a strict Islamic state and the Koran states allah is against using weapon of mass destruction. How come the middle eastern countris are not allowed to have nuclear anything but Israel has enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world. Gen. Moshe Dayan said we can take down the world and rest assured it will happen if Israels existance is threatened. Now I was born a christian but i will be damned if I will see my grandsons sacreficed for Israel I realize of course that the Israel loving congress and senate will send theis sons to fight on the front lines for Israel. I have to sign off know cause I think I hear Santas reindeer clippity clopping on my rooftop.