If the Palestinian application for United Nations full membership actually takes place Friday and the United States uses its Security Council veto to stop the process, it will be the final step in a predictable and preventable tragedy playing out. Some are arguing that Washington might actually abstain, thereby gaining considerable favorable sentiment from much of the world and also sending a signal to Israel that there are limits to the bilateral relationship. But it is far more likely that President Barack Obama, who has stated over and over that he will protect Israel in international forums, will not flinch when he calls on Susan Rice to cast the fatal vote. Any expectation that the president might hesitate either because it is the right thing to do or because it benefits the United States is fanciful, particularly with a presidential election looming in 2012.
Washington’s attempts to “mediate” the situation have really been limited to pressuring the Palestinians to back off. Sending National Security Council official Dennis Ross, “Israel’s lawyer,” to Ramallah to talk around the Palestinian leadership should, if anything, indicate to the Palestinians that Washington is, as it always has been, firmly in the Israeli corner. So let us assume that Palestine will feel compelled to seek full U.N. membership as the world’s 194th nation and that Washington will then veto the application. The first question then has to be whether the entire process had any meaning at all or it was just kabuki, a stylized show played out to an appreciative audience with a predictable ending. The short answer is that the Palestinians will certainly be on the losing end — as they have been for more than 60 years — but the real losers will be the United States and Israel.
The mainstream media has echoed Israeli and American arguments that Palestinian statehood is meaningless without a negotiated settlement of issues on the ground. But Israel has made it clear that it has no desire to negotiate anything while it continues to occupy the West Bank, so the Palestinian choice is to accept the status quo, in which it is powerless and voiceless, or attempt to line up the international community more solidly behind it and shift the playing field.
Israel has been working hard to stop the process, or, at worst, to mitigate its impact by having a number of important nations, mostly in Europe, either abstain on the vote or vote no. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made a glad-hand tour of European capitals earlier this year with that express purpose, and he received positive signals from the Italians, the Dutch, the Poles, and the Germans, though it is by no means clear how they will vote. It was for Israel a top national priority, which it has conveyed clearly to its friends in the United States.
Washington, at the urging of Israel, also joined in the effort, starting with warnings late last year to Latin American nations that recognizing Palestine as a state would be “unacceptable.” More recently, the State Department and the White House have repeatedly expressed their desire that the Palestinians shelve their plans to seek a U.N. seat, and they have been assiduously working both in front of the TV cameras in New York and Washington and behind the scenes to convince the Palestinian leadership to cease and desist. The dialogue has been given some teeth by Congress, which is determined to cut all aid to Palestine if the U.N. action goes through. One congressmen, Joe Walsh of Illinois, is preparing a motion that will provide congressional support for an Israeli annexation of much of the West Bank if the Palestinians proceed. Walsh describes Palestinian statehood as “absolutely outrageous.”
So Israel sees the Palestinian plan as a major threat and the United States appears to be on board, but many would reasonably observe that Israel often cries wolf and greatly exaggerates what it perceives as threats against it. Is that true in this case, making it just another instance where Tel Aviv is adopting an extreme position in hopes that Washington will deliver the goods? It may not be. Israel sees danger precisely because the Palestinian bid will do a couple of things that call into question some significant aspects of the status quo. First of all, since it will certainly pass with a huge majority in the General Assembly if the Palestinians opt to go that route, it will provide overwhelming international confirmation of Palestinian rights with the U.S. and Israel standing on the wrong side on the issue. It will also severely undermine Israel’s moral position, such as it is, and emphasize the illegality of the Israeli occupation of parts of the West Bank. The process is already illegal in the eyes of the rest of the world, including the United States, but it will be even less tenable if a convincing majority of the world’s countries recognize Palestine as a state with defined borders and a national identity.
Second, recognition of statehood carries with it recognition that the state exists within defined space, in this case the 1967 borders. This has enormous significance because those borders include many areas being colonized by the Israelis, as well as East Jerusalem. It means that any Israeli settlement that is on the other side of that border is considered completely illegal and that Israel is therefore a rogue state that is occupying and settling lands belonging to a neighboring state 44 years after the cessation of hostilities. Even the New York Times in an article on Sept. 10 regarding the recent unrest in Egypt, noting that Islamic groups were not involved, conceded that criticism of Israel has a basis in the widespread popular perception that “Muslims, Arabs, and indeed many around the globe believe Israel is unjustly occupying Palestinian territories, and they are furious at Israel for it.” The rejection of Palestinian statehood and the debate surrounding it will only heighten that sentiment.
If the Palestinians are in the United Nations as a full member or even with limited rights, they will have access to the International Criminal Court in The Hague, where they can take legal steps against Israel and against individual Israelis. Even though Israel doesn’t recognize the legitimacy of the court, when it reaches the point where no senior Israeli government official, present or retired, can travel without concern over being arrested, it will have a major impact on how Israel sees itself and how the rest of the world sees Israel. The clear depiction of Israel as an occupying power in violation of the Geneva Conventions, to which most of the world’s nations are signatories, would also fuel the Israel divestment campaign, which is another major concern of the Israeli government, and also legitimately so, as it could have a serious impact on the Israeli economy.
The Palestinians would also have recourse to other United Nations bodies. They would, for example, be able to appeal to UNESCO to stop the Israeli demolition of Muslim and Arab historical sites and the renaming of villages and other landmarks, a considerable benefit.
So Israel is right in understanding that the U.N. entry could have a profound impact, but the United States would hardly escape collateral damage from its veto and could turn out to be the biggest loser. Policymakers in Washington like Joe Walsh forget Newton’s Third Law of Motion, though that assumes that they have ever heard of Newton. Newton said that every action produces an equal and opposite reaction. It is true in international relations just as it is true in physics, only in the real world it has come to be known as blowback.
What would be the possible blowback from an American veto? John Whitbeck has correctly described the veto by Washington as a “shotgun blast in both of its own feet.” The United States is already perceived negatively in every Arab nation except Kuwait. It is seen as on one hand supporting liberalization and democratization of some Arab governments while at the same time suppressing fundamental rights in places like Palestine. Worse still, if Washington cuts aid to the Palestinians because of their going to the U.N., it will be widely perceived as a de facto partner and enabler of the occupation of the West Bank.
The unfortunately well-deserved perception of blatant hypocrisy will alienate emerging “Arab spring” regimes even more from Washington and will almost certainly lead to anti-American violence, possibly extreme, in places like Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Turkey. American goods and services will, as a consequence, undoubtedly become less welcome in many parts of the world, while the U.S. veto will inevitably provide a recruiting bonanza for groups that use terror, including al-Qaeda.
And it could make every American traveler less safe when he or she goes abroad, while American soldiers stationed in foreign lands will inevitably become targets of militants, inspired by yet another example of Washington’s hypocrisy. Vice President Joe Biden and Gen. David Petraeus had it exactly right when they observed that Israeli policies were endangering Americans. That was before they came to their senses and recanted, but apparently the president of the United States was not listening anyway.
Acceptance of full Palestinian sovereignty and statehood by Israel and the United States would give Tel Aviv a genuine negotiating partner and go far toward restoring the reputation of the United States of America, while rejection of it will end the charade forever, eliminating any chance for any kind of viable peace process in the Middle East. And the damage extends beyond that. Saudi Arabia has already warned that the U.S. veto will do irreparable damage to its bilateral relationship with Washington and will also forever destroy America’s reputation in the Arab world. It would hasten the development of the clash of civilizations, “us and them” point of view, dividing much of the developing world from Washington. It would be the final and irrevocable step in a foreign policy that has brought nothing but disasters over the past 10 years.
Read more by Philip Giraldi
- Terrorizing Through Lawfare – May 23rd, 2012
- House Passes Stealth Legislation – May 16th, 2012
- A Tipping Point for Israel – May 9th, 2012
- Ron Paul Gets One Wrong – May 2nd, 2012
- Washington Felons Fret Over Hanky-Panky in Cartagena – April 25th, 2012





Johnny in Wi.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:44 pm
This is another great essay Phil. Israel was made a nation by a UN resolution 63 years ago. They then went to war and almost doubled their size by stealing a huge part of the land area of Palistine given to the Arabs, in the same UN resolution. They also used terror and murder to frighten most of the native Pakistinians from their homes. For 63 years they have made the native Arabs of Israel Palistine feel like they are either second class or worse then vermin. The leaders of this racist, Zionist, entity should be tried for their many crimes against humanity. Many Germans were hung for less after WW2
Avi
September 21st, 2011 at 10:52 pm
This is a great article, Dr. Giraldi.
From a legal perspective, the current binding international law pertaining to recognized borders is the UN-ratified partition plan of 1947.
The Green Line of 1967 is merely a ceasefire line and the territories Israel has acquired since December 1947 until now were acquired through military aggression. Such acquisition of territory is illegal under international law.
What the Palestinian delegation should have put forth in its bid for statehood were the Partition Plan borders of 1947. http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Maps/Stor…
The Partition Plan also designates Jerusalem as an international city, like the Vatican, under the sovereignty of neither Israel nor Palestine.
However, the current plan is based on the 1967 lines. In essence, Palestinians are doing Israel a favor. And as the leaked documents in the Palestine Papers show, the Palestinian negotiations team was prepared to concede many areas around occupied East Jerusalem. At the time, Tzipi Livni of the 'liberal' Kadima party rejected that concession.
mickperry
September 21st, 2011 at 11:21 pm
As succinct an analysis as we could ever want. Meanwhile here in the UK, since the 14th of this month the Department of Public Prosecutions now has the final say in instituting legal proceedings against visiting suspected war criminals. Previously any member of the public had been able to apply to a local magistrate for the issue of an arrest warrant.
Nina
September 21st, 2011 at 11:45 pm
In 1948 Israel was warred against by 5 Arab nations..Her size is that of a postage stamp in a football field…her total population is less than that of New York…the jews are here 5700 years,,,The Arabs arrived in 638 A.D .H amas rules in Gaza,,not Israel,,we got rockets n return for uprooting Jews from Gaza,,terror eveywhere else,600000Arabs left in 1948..they might receive reparations like everywhere else in the civilised world..Without an economic infrastructure, factories, wherewithall, what state? Who will keep sending money to the Arab clans ./ there are Arab professors and students on faculty and in my classes at university in israel, business men and doctors and patients, Arab, in hospitals and Arab members of Knesset..you are spouting ignorant lies and promotng the Jew hatred that is the basis for the Arab complaint…what they have in commom with the W<W<2 germans is their yearning for a Judenrein middle East…
john
September 22nd, 2011 at 3:49 am
Full of hubris Bush/Cheny and the neo-cons made the ridiculous argument that it is they who create the realities to which the world is forced to adjust, and while the world adjusts they will be creating new realities. Now it seems that The United States, Israeli, and the neo-cons are standing still while the world and history passes them by. The Turkish-Israeli alliance is over, Mubarek is gone. Palestinie will be recognized as a state, and other western quislings who betray their own people do not sleep comfortably as young Arabs refuse to accept the reality as it is defined by the neo-cons. And good night Helen Thomas wherever you are.
Andron
September 22nd, 2011 at 4:01 am
Mr.Giraldi has summed it up perfectly.
My God cannot these people in the White House see what they are doing?
Idiots like Joe Walsh are supposed to represent the American people but they act like slaves of Isreal. Their souls are rotten – bought by Isreali gold.
Nelson_2008
September 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 am
Firstly, there is no "U.S. government"…in any meaningful sense.
Thus it's not a matter of "Israel" "urging" its "friends" in the "U.S. [government]" to do or not do anything; rather, the Zionist whorehouse on the Potomac simply takes orders from its Masters.
And if it turns out that there is a vote and the "U.S. government" abstains, it doesn't mean that there are "limits" on the "bilateral relationship"; rather, it merely means that our Masters are trying to save face. Thus an abstention, if it should occur, would be nothing more than a transparent, calculated tactical move, intended to limit "damage".
Geo1671
September 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 am
Sad that Israel's lap dog Canadass was left out from the yes will veto.If Palestine state is rejected,time to abolish the United Nuts. Did you notice the No fly Zone for Libyia was extended until December and UNdidpissall?
Nelson_2008
September 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 am
What the "people" in the "White House" are doing is taking orders. That's all they know. Being the empty, soulless vessels that they are, that's all they're capable of. They "act" like slaves because they are slaves. The mask is now fully off, and there's almost nothing that needs to be hidden anymore. What you see is what you see, and what you see is what you got.
VietnamWarVeteran
September 22nd, 2011 at 6:45 am
America is Israeli occupied territory – dominated by the TRAITORS in AIPAC and by the Zionist TRAITORS in the US Congress whose only loyalty is to Israel.
Terrance&Philip
September 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 am
It's been like watching what's going to be a fatal car crash in slow motion.
Freedom for Kosovo. Freedom for South Sudan, but no freedom for Palestine because "G_d's annointed" opposes it?
I hope everyone appreciates the irony of a black man vetoing the national aspirations of brown people at the behest of white Eastern Europeans.
Roger Lafontaine
September 22nd, 2011 at 7:02 am
'Politicians, ask not what you can do for your country, rather ask what you can do for Israel.' Famous quote from a former American president?
Bruce Richardson
September 22nd, 2011 at 7:59 am
As alway's, Dr. Phil's essays are comprised of brilliant investigation, analysis and articulation.
Thanks to our coopted media, functioning as a ministry of disinformation, the American are sadly ill-informed about the actual as opposed to the reality of America's role in the world.
This issue is at the core of anti-Americanism around much of the world. Anglo-colonialism was not and is not our birthrite.
andy
September 22nd, 2011 at 8:10 am
America's puppets will do what their Israeli masters tell them to do.
LarryS
September 22nd, 2011 at 9:25 am
I recommend "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe for the facts about the creation of Israel in 1947-48. Also, "What Price Israel?" by Jewish American Alfred Lilienthal.
John_Muhammad
September 22nd, 2011 at 9:47 am
We are risking so much blowback it would be funny if it weren't so potentially tragic. The "train wreck you know is coming but you can't look away" comes to mind.
On the other hand, might want to stock up on cheap gas while you can- we might see a substantial price jump at the pump within a few minutes after the vote.
Terrance&Philip
September 22nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
The Saudi editorial warning of blowback if the US vetoes Palestines bid for recognition was written with official sanction from the Saudi monarch by Prince Turki Al-Faisal, a former ambassador to the US, a son of the late King Faisal and a very senior member of the Saudi royal family. The Al-Faisals have long endorsed a rapprochment between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and, I wonder, does the fact that this piece was written by Prince Turki signal a potential warming of relations between the two countries?
With the US now so obviously a dishonest broker in the ME, a rapprochment between the governments of Iran and Saudi Arabia would be in the best interests of both countries but will further erode United States influence in the region.
Such a pity "our" leaders now work for Israel before their own country.
The prophet
September 22nd, 2011 at 11:30 am
When I was in school, I learned that –"figures don't lie, but liars do figure". Go re-figure Nina.
Terrance&Philip
September 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
They SAY they've been there for 5,700 years, yet there is nothing in the archaeological record to coroborate this.
The Jews are more likely descendants of Egyptian refugees who fled after the restoration of the old religion following the overthrow of Akehnaten and the Amarna heresy.
Read the Roman Historian Tacitus on the origin of the Jews. He's a lot more credible than anything the Bible says.
MoT
September 22nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
As if Zionists don't "hate"? You had terrorists and killers later "reform" into a government and that somehow absolves all sins? Pot calling kettle black argument.
jeff_davis
September 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Nina from Hasbara Inc dribbles forth her criminal fiction. Let's take a look.
"In 1948 Israel was warred against by 5 Arab nations."
Indeed, but the first let's correct the lie of inverted culpability. From the start, the Zionists plotted the theft of Palestine from its long time residents, the Palestinians. With British aid, the Zionist criminals invaded Palestine and armed themselves for the assault on the Palestinians. Manipulated by the Zionists, the UN then joined in, with their vote in favor of criminality. The invading killer thieves, having by then armed themselves to the teeth, began the aggression in earnest, and attacked, massacred, and expelled the virtually defenseless Palestinians. The Arab armies who came to their defense, were unable to defeat the Zionist aggression. And so the crime was for the moment successful.
"Her size is that of a postage stamp in a football field…her total population is less than that of New York…"
In other words, "But it was only a small crime. Surely that make it okay. (Wink, wink.)"
"the jews are here 5700 years,,,"
The land in question has changed hands no less than fifteen times in the last 5500 years. Ancient Israel's moment lasted just 230 of those years, and in 1917 when the theft began, the Jewish fraction of the population was one in twenty. The notion that the Jews, on the basis of their brief historical possession have some "right" to "reclaim" the land was then, and is now, absurd. Criminal, absurdity.
"The Arabs arrived in 638 A.D."
Which is to say that they have lived there continuously for 1300 years. That's seventy generations. That's five times as long as historic Israel even existed.
"Hamas rules in Gaza not Israel," So what?
"we got rockets n return for uprooting Jews from Gaza," You were and are criminal invaders. You deserve to be attacked, and will continue to be attacked until defeated. It's called justice.
"…terror eveywhere else…" It's not "terror" — that's your criminal, dishonest terminology. Rather, it's the ongoing counter-attack against the century old Zionist criminal aggression. A counter-attack which will continue, courtesy of Arab patience and a just cause, until the final Zionist defeat. The Zionist criminal state will NEVER enjoy peace. Such is the fate of criminals. This is justice.
(Continued below)
jeff_davis
September 22nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
(continued from above)
"…600000Arabs left in 1948." "Left"? Another criminal lie. The unarmed and defenseless Palestinians, the rightful owners of the land, were pre-emptively attacked, massacred, and sent fleeing for their lives by the killer criminals. No amount of lying can erase the truth.
"…they might receive reparations like everywhere else in the civilised world." Or alternatively, the Zionist might surrender and return to the rightful owners that which was STOLEN from them.
"…Without an economic infrastructure, factories, wherewithall, what state?" It's called Palestine. All of Palestine. The Zionist criminals have no "right" to any of it, because, as criminals they have no "right" to what they have stolen. But of course criminals lie to themselves. It's part of their moral sickness. (Part of your moral sickness, Nina.)
"Who will keep sending money to the Arab clans ./ there are Arab professors and students on faculty and in my classes at university in israel, business men and doctors and patients, Arab, in hospitals and Arab members of Knesset"
And there will be many, many more upon the return of the rest of the Arabs/Palestinians — (I know, you hate to use that word "Palestinian". Try your best to exterminate it from your vocabulary. As you try your best to exterminate the truth, the rights of the Palestinians, the Palestinians themselves, and the century-long Zionist crimes of theft and murder. Keep trying, right up to the end.)
"…you are spouting ignorant lies and promotng the Jew hatred that is the basis for the Arab complaint…" Sad, so sad. "They hate us for our freedoms." How can you possibly force your brain to accept such absurdity?!! People don't hate Jews, they hate Zionist criminality and, yes, the Zionist criminals who perpetrate it. Don't bring the rest of us Jews into it. This is your crime, and has nothing to do with the rest of the Jews. They do, unfortunately get drawn into complicity, by the lies of the Zionist criminals. Which is yet another Zionist crime.
"…what they have in commom with the W<W<2 germans is their yearning for a Judenrein middle East… " Ahhh, yes, the Nazi card, the holocaust card. The classic protective excuse for Zionist crime. Zionist crime began in the late 1880's. The extermination and ethnic cleansing — "cleansing" is the "rein" in Judenrein — of the Palestinians began 50 years before the Nazi applied it with Teutonic efficiency. Did the Nazis learn it,…from the Zionists!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or was Jehovah so passionately offended by the Zionist violation of the covenant — Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not lie, among others — that he decided to demonstrate his disappointment by dishing up a little of that medicine to his chosen ones?
Truth,…what a concept.
Bob
September 22nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
The truth that the MSM will never tell you is tha the Palestinians were among the most peaceful people in the world in 1947. In fact they had no organized miltia or military aparatus of any kind. Early on during the ethnic cleasning campaign of 1947-48, Ben Gurion noted in his diary that much to his horror the Palestinians were failing to respond to attacks by the Jewish militia and he was afraid that the Jewish troops might begin to balk at the destruction of peaceful Arab villages where there was no resistance.
NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
September 22nd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Tensions rise in Middle East amid Palestinian statehood bid
http://america-hijacked.com/2011/09/21/tensions-r…
911 Motive and Media Betrayal:
http://tinyurl.com/911motivemediabetrayal
NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
September 22nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
General Petraeus Leaked Emails about Israel (scroll down to the comments section as well):
http://tinyurl.com/petraeusinnewstatesman
NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
September 22nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Why They Attacked US on 911 (scroll down to comments section as well):
http://tinyurl.com/WhyTheyAttackedUSon911
Jamie N
September 22nd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
We know why they attacked us because America supports the illegal occupation of Palistine by Israel and we had dictators that worked for American interests in the middel east.And things have got worse since 9/11 fauls flag.America deserves everything it gets.By Ron Paul being bood for stating the facts of why Arabs don't like America only shows how uneducated the people really are.They better get there info from places besides the bought and paid for MSM.Ron Paul nows 9/11 was an inside job but he has to play dumb to that or he will never get elected by the duimb American citizens.I actually don't belive the Americans are dumb they have just been lied to for so long and are to lazy to find the truth.
david
September 22nd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
I'm proud of my President and his standing with Israel! He represents the good will of the MAJORITY, the vast majority, of the American people, the last great hope for mankind.
I find it telling and intriguing(wink, wink)that the American first crowd like Giraldi and Antiwar.com in general is so 'non-interventional' except for supporting the Palestinians/arabs at every opportunity. Am Israel Chai!
alzurzin
September 22nd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
well, getting back to the article, I think the biggest losers will be the Palestinians. Obama will veto, and so the Palestinians will continue to be deprived of basic necessities by Israel. Israel will stop at nothing to acquire the whole of Palestine, or to regain lost territory as the Israelis see it. The precedent has been set long ago, in the Book of Joshua, a tale of genocide and conquest if ever one were told. KJV Joshua: 6.021 "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." Joshua: 6.024 "And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD." Kindly note the words, utterly, silver, and gold. [Why an all loving God, creator of all, would instruct or sanction one of his peoples to destroy another, when he could do it himself, is a complete mystery.]
MvGuy
September 22nd, 2011 at 8:04 pm
"Antiwar.com in general is so 'non-interventional' except for supporting the Palestinians/arabs at every opportunity"
Isn't it U.S. intervention…[A Veto] that YOU want, ["standing with Israel"] not 'non-intervention which would be NOT vetoing the resolution.. [which] "the American first crowd like Giraldi and Antiwar.com in general is so 'non-interventional" You seem to have gotten it BACKWARDS
Die Wahrheit zählt
September 23rd, 2011 at 12:31 am
Jeff, an excellent reply!
charles caruso
September 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 am
I wish Jewish people all over the world could read the comments on Giraldi's column.
'You don't have to be a weatherman . . . '
Jeanne
September 23rd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Every US President has tried to stand up to Israel, but the Israeli Lobby (like the NRA) controls Congress. Like the NRA, the Israeli Lobby defeats anyone in Congress who even suggests that the US be more evenhanded in our Middle East foreign policy. I am deeply ashamed and sad that our taxpayers $$ finance the Israeli theft of Palestinian land and water and the imprisonment of the Palestinians into cantons in their own land. Is there anyone familar with US policy that did not know what happened on 9/11 — it was payback for our support of the horrible policies by Israel. Check out p.147 in the 9/11 Commission report.
johnshoemaker30
September 24th, 2011 at 2:48 am
Phillip, there is no forum for Palestinians to communicate with us. We could point out to Abbas a gambit that worked for Britain. When the Emir of Kashmir didn't agree to join Pakistan, Britain conjured the UN to accept Pakistan and India and wait for the Emir's decision. Allowing non-Gaza Palestine to be recognized would leave the world with the Gaza problem—like the Kashmir problem. Gaza could join Israel or Palestine–accept their laws.
At least that way Israel will stop cutting Palestinian olive trees. We can support Palestine with a futures market. I will bid $613/gallon for the first olive oil in that market. It will light the path of world compassion for Palestinians.
Chris Mallory
September 24th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I am America First, last, and only. I could care less what the Israelis and Palestinians do to each other. I am just sick and damn tired of paying for it. Defending Israel is not worth one dime of American tax money or one drop of blood from the US military.
david
September 24th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Is McGovern the USS Liberty guy or is that Giraldi; I get confused sometimes. LOL.
david
September 24th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Isn't he just a broken record, a one-trick poney. At least Ray McGovern moves between hatred of Israel and the SS Liberty's sinking.
Avi
September 25th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Gideon Levy, an Israeli journalist wrote about yahoo's speech at the UN:
"Netanyahu, peddler of emotions, did not shrink from or forget anything, save reality. Abraham the patriarch, Hezekiah, Isaiah, pogroms, the Holocaust, 9/11, the children, the grandchildren and, of course, Gilad Shalit – all fodder for the tear wringer that assuredly didn't bring forth a single tear anywhere on the planet, with the possible exception of a few Jewish nursing homes in Boca Raton, Florida. There, perhaps, people were still moved by this kitschy death speech."
And just like the yahoo's speech, david's childish sarcasm and his nonsense are pathetic. Let the world see the primitive, unintelligent brutes who are the public face of Zionism.
carl, queens, ny
September 27th, 2011 at 10:09 am
First, uprooting Jews from gaza? Israel had no rigth planting their boots on other peoples property. You Israeli sympathizers have a nack of turning a rout into a benevolent act. Do really think that Sharon is capable of an act of kindness to the Pals.? There were 22,000 soldiers guarding 8,500 land grabbers. Pal. pressure made life miserable for the 8,500. Cooking breakfast with machine guns wrapped around their torsos', children going to school in windowless armoured vehicles, etc.To cut their losses Israel Gaza. Nice try just the same.
Sam
September 27th, 2011 at 10:56 am
The hypocrisy is for the whole world to see.
psh
September 28th, 2011 at 1:55 am
Yeah:)