Let us suppose for a moment that an individual enjoying the full confidence and trust of the United States government was given access to the most secret information possessed by the US military, to include how it would react to an attack by an aggressor armed with nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. Let us further suppose that that individual violated his trust in the most egregious and vile fashion, offering to sell the information to anyone, but eventually settling on a nation ostensibly friendly to the US but not in any way a formal ally. The individual then proceeded to deliver defense secrets literally by the carload, not only information that might plausibly have been construed as relevant to the buyer’s own security, but also strategic defense information that could conceivably have led to the deaths of millions of American citizens. That information was then bartered and re-sold to an enemy who was in a position to use it to devastate the United States, together with sources and methods information on intelligence operations that in short order led to the deaths of many American citizens and also foreigners who had been cooperating with the United States.
Let us further suppose that the individual who stole the secrets was eventually caught because the sheer volume of what he was stealing was detected in spite of the indolence and incompetence of his superiors and he was convicted and imprisoned for life. In the damage assessment made after the arrest, it was determined that the espionage had been the most devastating ever experienced by the United States of America, both in volume and in the sensitivity of the information that had been betrayed.
Fast forward a few years. The country that paid the man to steal the secrets becomes a major beneficiary of US assistance and uses the money to set up a lobbying organization that effectively manages key players in the federal government and the media, making it virtually invulnerable to any criticism. Pumped up by hubris, that country seeks on several occasions to obtain the freedom of its spy, claiming inaccurately that he was only taking information used for purely defensive purposes. Fast forward a few more years and legislators in the US Congress known to be advocates of the foreign country that bought the secrets join in, calling for the release of the convicted spy. The media, also compromised and in the pockets of the foreign lobby, obligingly does not report the tale of American legislators who have apparently sold out.
I am, of course, referring to Jonathan Pollard and his friends in Israel and the United States. Pollard did more damage to the United States than any spy in history. And it was genuine damage, not just a mass of documents that had been routinely classified. Pollard’s Israeli handler, aided by someone in the White House who has up until now evaded arrest, was able to ask for specific classified documents by name and number. The Soviets obtained US war plans, passed to them by the Israelis in exchange for money and free emigration of Russian Jews without any regard for the damage it was doing to the United States. The KGB was able to use the mass of information to reconstruct US intelligence operations directed against it and a number of Americans and US agents paid with their lives. Pollard also revealed to the Israelis and Soviets the technical and human source capabilities that US intelligence did and did not have, which is the most critical information of all as it underlies all information collection efforts. Compounding the problem, the United States has never actually been able to accurately ascertain all of the damage done by Pollard because the Israeli government has refused to cooperate in the investigation and has not returned the documents that were stolen.
And make no mistake, Pollard did it for money. He has since wrapped himself in the Israeli flag and promoted himself as an observant Jew to justify his crime and to obtain his freedom. He is reported to be a very popular person in Israel, an Israeli citizen by act of parliament, and there is a square in Jerusalem that has been renamed "Freedom for Jonathan Pollard Square." There is also an active "Justice for Jonathan Pollard" movement in the United States supported by the heavyweight Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. Never before has there been such a transformation, with a despicable lowlife spy who sold out his country for money turned into a hero.
Pollard is just one symptom of the asymmetrical relationship that makes many mutter "wag the dog" whenever the subject of Israel comes up. If ever a foreign country has stuck its thumb in the eye of Uncle Sam, it is Israel in its willingness to take the United States for a ride while always demanding still more. And when it demands more it is invariably given more, with US politicians and mainstream media ever willing to genuflect and do what is right for the kleptocracy in charge in Tel Aviv.
The latest criminal outrage is a quartet of congressmen who are calling on the Obama Administration to free Pollard to "advance the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks." Well, first of all, everyone knows that the talks are kabuki, designed to accomplish absolutely nothing while advancing the standing of Obama prior to the US congressional elections in November. Israel continues its creeping annexation of the West Bank aided and abetted by Washington, which will do nothing substantive to stop the illegal and immoral activity. Abbas presumably is being bought off to stay silent while the play unfolds and Hamas, which should be sitting at the table, has been excluded.
That means that the congressmen in question, who actually took an oath to uphold the US Constitution, know that they are doing nothing but throwing yet another bone to Israel. The congressmen are Barney Franks of Massachusetts, Edolphus Towns of New York, Anthony Weiner also of New York, and Bill Pascrell of New Jersey. Mark their names well. Franks and Weiner are presumably acting due to tribal solidarity, but Pascrell and Towns are the straight men in the routine, brought along to make the Free Pollard movement appear to be less than a complete ethnically based sell out.
It is time for the American people to rise up and throw these bums out. Putting them in jail for malfeasance and corruption would be even better. I would like to see a panel of USS Liberty survivors and widows and orphans of the dead intelligence officers question Franks, Weiner, Pascrell, and Towns about their plan to free Pollard. Better still, I would like to see some US veterans groups and their publications develop a backbone and take up the cause, finally saying that enough is enough since it is our soldiers, sailors, and airmen who have paid the price in their blood for the Israeli connection. And then there is the intelligence community. Its leading lobby, Association of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO), has long ignored Israeli espionage and prefers to regularly express concern about "Islamofascism." Look in your own backyard folks, it is the Israelis who are skinning us alive, not the Muslims, and Pollard is the poster child of what exactly is being done to us. He is sometimes cited as proof that spies for Israel are caught and punished, but the truth is that he is the only one who has done hard time in jail and only because of the enormity of his crime while all the others have somehow slipped through our criminal justice system. Franks, Weiner, Pascrell, and Towns are only the latest in a long line of collaborator politicians who should sometimes sit back and ponder where their loyalty actually lies. If they persist in their Pollard campaign, they should be regarded as not fit to sit in the congress of the United States. And that goes for anyone else who decides to lobby on behalf of Pollard.
An opportunity is coming in November to remove the snakes from Congress. Let’s organize to get rid of Franks, Weiner, Pascrell, and Towns. To be sure they will be replaced by others who are probably just as attached to Israel or fearful of its lobby as they are, but the time will inevitably come when allegiance to a foreign nation that is a strategic liability for the United States will become unseemly. May that day come soon.
Read more by Philip Giraldi
- AIPAC Declares War – February 22nd, 2012
- Bipartisan Support for World War III – February 15th, 2012
- The World Turned Upside Down – February 8th, 2012
- Another War on the Cheap – February 1st, 2012
- Avoiding a ‘Dumb War’ With Iran – January 25th, 2012





Johnny in Wi.
September 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Phil a great essay: Sadly it will never happen. Congresss is owned by Israel. No outrage can get many of these spineless politicians to follow their oaths to the Constitution. I am shocked that Pollard hasn't been released already.
Jeff Davis
September 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Remember the USS Liberty. Thanks Phil. Our Congress and government is owned by AIPAC.
There can be no debate about this at any honest level.
Remember Israel said that Pollard was a "rogue agen" for 13 years. Never sanctioned by the government until Bibi needed a domestic cause to championed. All the while "Israel -Firster" Bern-Ami Kadish was doing the exact same thing at the same. time and he got a walk and kept his US pension. Israel isn't a trustworthy ally but a danger. It's time for Israel to move out of Uncle Sam's basement.
And Israel still asks why would they have deliberately attacked the USS S Liberty which has never been investigated. Because the US government will do nothing. It still hasn't. Congress has never investigated the attack on the USS Liberty but they'll let Pollard go free….bank on it.
Israel and the US government have lied over and over and over and we pay this apartheid racist monster billions to subjugate and carry their water unconditionally.. All costs and no benefits.
James
September 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Breaking Israel’s Stranglehold over American Foreign Policy
http://america-hijacked.com/2010/09/28/breaking-i…
http://tinyurl.com/BreakingIsraelsholdoverAmerica
James
September 29th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
US Double Standard (for AIPAC and similar) over Israeli Nukes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjmjvWk0ycg&fe…
http://tinyurl.com/nukedoublestandardwithIsrael
James
September 29th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Press TV talks to James Morris about Afghan Quagmire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq1C5-Aow_o
Following is the URL mentioned in the above interview:
Neocons Resurfacing under Obama:
http://tinyurl.com/neoconsresurfacingunderobama
Titus
September 29th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Barney Frank, I knew he was a scumbag. It makes one wonder if his loyalty to the tribe manifests itself in the financial regulation bill he designed.
persnipoles
September 30th, 2010 at 12:19 am
Dr. G is correct: Why is the dialogue about releasing Pollard rather than who should join him?
It's hard to imagine US glorification of another country's traitor even if we happened to benefit from his treachery; IMO, the normal attitude towards traitors is "a traitor is a traitor…lucky for us , they had traitors…loyal to themselves, low as they come." There seems to be something almost "uniquely" Israeli about publically 'lionizing' our biggest traitor …and it's worth remembering.
Hmmmm: "only taking information used for purely defensive purposes." That is also a familiar imposture; eg it recently conjured an 'al qaeda' fantasy element on an aid flotilla. That 'defense' mask too will be voluntarily shed as their power increases.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 12:53 am
"a despicable lowlife"
"remove the snakes from Congress"
"it is the Israelis who are skinning us alive"
Come on, Phil, tell us how you REALLY feel!
Your language is becoming more pernicious and inciteful. Too bad Der Sturmer is no longer accepting submissions.
"Hamas, which should be sitting at the table"
Why would a gang of fundamentalist, totalitarian thugs whose official charter calls for the destruction of their neighbor be expected to talk peace?
They don't just gun down whole families in cold blood, they celebrate it. They hail the perpetrators as heroes. They kill children deliberately and call it "resistance."
Pollard's a "despicable lowlife", but so are thugs who gun down pregnant women.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 1:16 am
I'm impressed that you were able to stop quaking in abject fear long enough to write a comment.
But I can't help but wonder if you really think you're viewed as a patriot after confessing to so much fear of Israel-bashers.
You lay on your hatred of Israel so thick, it's obvious that you're just saying whatever you think will please the folks who scare you to the bone… much like the poster who calls himself "Avi of Mondoweiss." He wears the "of Mondoweiss" badge as a way of saying, "Don't hate me, I'm one of the good juden."
My hunch is, neither of you guys earns much respect from the folks you're trying to kiss up to.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Giraldi's over-the-top rabid rant is of a piece with the latest from Paul Craig Roberts, who picked a fight with Canada of all places, totally out of the blue. I guess he was running out of targets.
Throwing raw meat at snarling wolves is the new journalism, it seems. I expect to see more hysterical rants bursting with gratuitous attacks. Don't disappoint!
Jeff Davis
September 30th, 2010 at 2:00 am
You're entitled to your opinion but you can't serve two flags. Nor am I require to give fealty, show loyalty, allegiance or pay for any nation. You cannot even grasp this concept your logic is so befuddled unlike your delusional assertion that is what is good for Israel must be good for the US. Israel is all costs, an exorbitant burden, no benefits, you can't even refute that or deny it. Spies, sell secrets, technology to China, etc. All documented.
Yes, I remember the USS Liberty. I don't do it for anybody but the injustice nor do I make it an industry of commercializing/trivializing the dead for profit like some find acceptable or necessary. Murder is murder.
Enjoy your Pollard celebration.
Jeff Davis
September 30th, 2010 at 2:06 am
Turn your Megaphone® off .
He's your national tribal hero. Relish it. Don't be ashamed.
A true real Israeli First patriot to the core. So typical of "duals" who can't see a difference.
Like Pollard, Kadish, Oren, Cristol, etc.
Jeff Davis
September 30th, 2010 at 2:08 am
Turn your Megaphone® off .
Switch to decaf….that statement is all over the planet. But you knew this when you wrote it.
Israel is all costs and no benefit. I'll await your playing of the anti-Semitic card….you know you want to.
George
September 30th, 2010 at 2:53 am
The world's "most moral army"
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JNlxgs6qm2M/ScVczIFZOAI…
Time and time again, Israelis accuse their enemies of the exact thing they do–whether it's using human shields, targeting women and children, or "total destruction" of their neighbor.
Does Israel recognize Palestine? Who is wiping whom off the map, in reality, Septimus?
persnipoles
September 30th, 2010 at 3:04 am
"Throwing raw meat at snarling wolves is the new journalism"
No, we still just call that War-on-Terror.
Phil Giraldi
September 30th, 2010 at 4:26 am
If you honestly do not believe that Israel owns congress, check out this story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100927/pl_afp/israe… . 87 senators sign on a letter strongly approved by AIPAC pressuring the Palestinians and providing no criticism whatsoever of Israel and its settlement policy.
liberal
September 30th, 2010 at 5:12 am
'Pollard's a "despicable lowlife", but so are thugs who gun down pregnant women.'
What about the thugs who perform ethnic cleansing in the West Bank?
epppie
September 30th, 2010 at 5:41 am
Whose nukes are feared more by the US political/military establishment? Iran or Israel?
Rob
September 30th, 2010 at 5:54 am
I think that Congress is owned by whoever has the money, and their allegiance is to the almighty dollar. I'd bet that if a Palestinian lobby had more to offer them, many of them would surely be virulently pro-Palestinian. Just a guess.
andy
September 30th, 2010 at 6:07 am
9/11 was a mossad operation
Maid Marian
September 30th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Just as the recklessness of Austro-Hungary before WWI brought down Germany, so, too will Israel and her duplicity bring down us. She is too great a liability and a money pit to the American taxpayer and her military. If we had politicians with the courage to tell the truth, they would say it.
Johnny in Wi.
September 30th, 2010 at 6:55 am
No lobby ever has had the negative and long term effect on this country as the Israeli Lobby. the Saudi's spread alot of money around and have a lot more. They have miniscule effect compared to the Israeli lobby.
Bruce Richardson
September 30th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Sadly,
As Phil Geraldi so well articulates, political expediency rules supreme. Our gutless political cadre are concerned only with re-election, fund-raising, and other perks of office. With the exception of Congressman Ron Paul, I cannot think of another worthy of my or anyones, for that matter, vote.
Perhaps Dr. Phil will declare his candidacy, and thereby restore some honor to public service.
Freedom and Liberty
September 30th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Jonathan Pollard isn't a traitor, he is simply a jewish partisan using his enemy's naivete and idiocy against them.
If you let your enemies take advantage of you, then the problem isn't that they are traitors, the problem is that you are freaking stupid.
Ken http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com
bogi666
September 30th, 2010 at 7:27 am
USG aid to Israel is $1000 per year for each Israeli which enables Israel to have socialized medicine which includes massages with snakes and chocolate lotion if desired. If the American public asks congress for an aspirin Congress becomes unglued ranting and raving about socialized medicine one minute and turn around the next minute and vote $billions to Israel to subsidize Israel socialized medicine the next..Mossad must have some juicy dossiers on members of Congress and threaten to blackmail them if they don't tow the Zionist line.Zionists with chutzpah, shocking,I tell you just shocking. I admire the Israeli government for caring for its citizens, 1st time shame on you, 2nd time shame on the USG being on the Israel suckers list.
liveload
September 30th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Keep hammering away Phillip. Someday the wheels will fall off this thing and you can sit back and say "I told you so".
Rob
September 30th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Don't disagree with you. It's just that this issue is complex, and the Lobby should be seen within a larger context of how the US operates and how big money operates, but that's not really the subject here. MJ Rosenberg has said recently that money is really the only thing that matters to members of Congress, and to think that they even have the integrity to espouse principled positions on ANYTHING, whether good or bad, is already maybe a little naïve. He who pays the piper calls the tune. Maybe I'm too cynical…
And the Saudi elites are definitely not enemies of the Israeli elites, nor enemies of AIPAC, as far as I know.
The issue of the clamp down on the mainstream media is another issue, obviously dangerous, especially for the Palestinians.
Hello to Wisconsin (?) , got family in Lacrosse and in Manitowoc…
Johann
September 30th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Israel has a nationalistic socialism, where the needs of citizens are given priority. America has a corporate socialism, where the needs of citizens are secondary to legal fictions. If America were to turn to a nationalistic socialism the Chosenites would blow a gasket through their media.
Invade the world/import the world is how they force us to behave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_a-25MhRuk&
They are cleansing us too.
charley caruso
September 30th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Israel wont drag the US down. Israel will be dumped when the US wises up, as the Chiang gang
was dumped. Chiang had a strong lobby too. Remember the Luces?
The Gaza massacre last year was the Zionists' Sharpeville, with the whole world watching, except for the benighted Americans, who were focused on Lindsay Lohan.
The commando attack on the Gaza aid ship would have made Meyer Lansky proud.
Watch your back, Phil. Them snakes are poisonous.
Johann
September 30th, 2010 at 10:35 am
The Chiang gang do not control the media and money of the United States. Let's face it, we're a colony. A host. This will only end when the host is exhausted and the parasite moves on.
Rob
September 30th, 2010 at 11:02 am
"And the Saudi elites are definitely not enemies of the Israeli elites, nor enemies of AIPAC, as far as I know. " – well, not exactly friends either (just to qualify, rereading that)
Johann
September 30th, 2010 at 11:08 am
We need publicly financed elections. Assign a credit to citizens of xy$ and allow them to allocate it to the political organization or individual of their choice. This removes the money and ends some of the power of the lobby.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 11:24 am
"I don't do it for anybody but the injustice"
Who are you kidding? Recently you admitted that FEAR is your main motivation for posting comments. In the same post you summed up 5000 years of judaic history as a deliberate "suicide by goy". That post was such a repulsive outpouring of excrement, it was soon deleted.
You're on a rampage of fear and paranoid blatherings. In post after post you imagine that you can read my mind. You're yelling at your own straw-man, not me. Case in point:
"your delusional assertion that is what is good for Israel must be good for the US"
When the heck did I ever say such a thing? Falsely accusing me amounts to a "delusional assertion" on YOUR part, you hysterical nut!
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 11:25 am
"Enjoy your Pollard celebration"
Another self-serving remark. I condemn Pollard as I always have, but you need me to praise him in order to achieve your objective, which is to separate the "good" juden from the "bad", and to remind the people you fear that you're in the "good" camp (pardon the term).
Clearly, YOU'RE the one who's "befuddled" and "delusional". Sadly, those appear to be your BEST qualities.
charley caruso
September 30th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Johann – But where will the parasites go? No one wants them. The Jersey Shore?
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 11:39 am
As I wrote a few posts upward from this one, you're not really talking to me, but to a straw-man of your own creation. Perhaps this bogeyman in your mind whom you keep attacking will provide you with the response you seek. As for myself, all I want to tell you is that your fear-based, self-serving, smear-monger campaign is doomed to failure.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 11:51 am
And why should Hamas be "sitting at the table" when they bring nothing to the table but hatred and intransigence?
It seems to me that Hamas has made its choice. It chose Iran, not peace with Israel.
The only people Hamas hates more than Israelis are the Arab peace negotiators.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 11:55 am
"you know you want to"
More mind-reading. Could you discredit yourself a little more, you paranoid loony?
Maid Marian
September 30th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
I think they are grooming China to be their new home.
Good riddance. But the Chinese haven't survived for 6,000 years and grown to a nation of over one billion to be taken over by a people only 3,000 years old with a population of less than ten million.
Phil Giraldi
September 30th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Hamas assumed power after a free and fair election. Perhaps you are ignorant of the overtures Hamas has made to negotiate to resolve issues with Israel even as Israel continues to bomb, rocket, and assassinate its supporters. Or perhaps you find all that irrelevant. The ones who bring "hatred and intransigence" to the negotiating table are Bibi Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman. Nice speech by Avigdor at the UN on Tuesday. Nothing wrong with a little more ethnic cleansing, is there?
BTW if you find my articles and this website in general so appalling, why don't you go somewhere else for your entertainment?
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Giraldi, do you see the kind of people you encourage? Just read the bigoted generalizations of Maid Marian, charley caruso and the like. Is this the kind of sentiment you're trying to arouse, or do you believe that anger should be focused on AIPAC and Israel's supporters in the government?
If it's the latter, and you're not a bigot yourself, what do you make of the outpouring of bigotry that accompanies articles like yours? Do you feel responsible? Do you renounce the defamatory generalizations you see here?
You responded to one of my posts, but will you respond to the bigots? Do you have the guts to point out their malicious racism? Does Paul Craig Roberts? Or do you guys delight in it?
There's legitimate criticism here, but some commentators are truly hateful.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
"Hamas assumed power after a free and fair election"
Would Nazi-like fascist parties be allowed to run in an election in a civilized country, or would they be outlawed? Would any party with a genocidal, racist, or hateful agenda be accorded respect and legally permitted to compete? Just because an election was conducted transparently doesn't make it respectable. The fact that you have no compunction about the participation of violent fascists in an Arab election means you think less of them to begin with.
"Perhaps you are ignorant of the overtures Hamas has made…"
Perhaps you are ignorant of the concept of "hudna" or "playing for time". Perhaps you are ignorant of the "overtures" that Hitler made in the 1930's to buy precious time. Or worse, perhaps you're not ignorant, but hypocritical.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
"Nothing wrong with a little more ethnic cleansing, is there?"
You mean, like expelling one million juden from Arab nations? Or like wiping all the Israelis off the map, which Hamas and Hezbollah would love to do? Are you not a hypocrite for criticizing in Avigdor Lieberman what you're silent about in Hamas?
"why don't you go somewhere else for your entertainment?"
You wouldn't be trying to ethnically cleanse me from this website, would you? Do you insist on having only blind followers read and respond to your rabble-rousing rants? Do you think you should operate in a private little bubble where your activities can't be seen and criticized by non-members of the club?
You don't have to read my posts. You can "go somewhere else" for responses to your articles.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
I rest my case.
Jeff Davis
September 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
"Recently you admitted that FEAR is your main motivation for posting comments."
Who is being delusional? You need to buy a dictionary.
Who is hypersensitive of any criticism of Israel? Like a dutiful Magaphone® Zionist neoconservative running their playbook? who writes successive posts taking anyone to task who doesn't support your Israel First contentions. Like Giraldi amply demonstartes it is your disloyalty like all Israel Firsters who are the danger and who are wrong. You haven't refuted a thing or anyone's argument but hyperventilate. The US gains noting from the "special relationship" all to the sole benefit of Israel. that is one sided, unfair, exorbitantly expensive and unbalanced.
Jeff Davis
September 30th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
"good juden"
More paranoid anti-Semtic references? Can any Zionist go a 24 period without ever invoking some tired old reference to Hitler and Nazis as if it grants some honest legitimacy. I think not.
Your "dual" disloyalty speaks for itself as is your right, excuse me if I don't sing the Hatikvah and bow to Tel Aviv at the mere mention of Israel. It's not my country anymore than the Vatican or Mecca.
Remember the USS Liberty. 34 murdered, 173 wounded without accountability is injustice. Prove otherwise. You can't.
Henry_Clemens
September 30th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Mr. Giraldi, I thank you for a truthful, frank and honest article. Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that Mr. Pollard is a greedy, despicable, self-serving low-life who is a traitor to the American people and a traitor to the Constitution. I also believe, and I’m being conservative, that the same could be said for at least 80% of the politicians and top officials currently “serving” in all three branches of our Federal government. In your article, you said; “It is time for the American people to rise up and throw these bums out.” Sir, I’m afraid that the problems Americans now face call for much more drastic action than that. All of the traitors I describe above should be immediately arrested; immediately given speedy, fair and impartial trials, and immediately hung by their necks until dead the very next morning following “guilty as charged” jury verdicts. Then, and only then, can the American people ever again expect to enjoy honest and constitutional government on a permanent basis.
Jeff Davis
September 30th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Zionists calling others "paranoid looneys"? What a stretch.
liveload
September 30th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Lets not forget Hamas exists because Israel founded them in the 70's as a counter to the PLO. Can you say blowback?
Guys like the troll that seems to have discovered a strong affinity for your work actually mean that your message scares them. He still hasn't gotten back to me on LBJ and McNamara turning the fighters en route to assist the USS Liberty around twice. Those guys were under attack for hours.
xavier
September 30th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
John McCain and Lindsey Graham will lead the crusade to release Pollard. Most of the Republcan/Likud will support the release.
Rob
September 30th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
I'm for that, or for a ceiling to the amount a congressional candidate can collect for his/her campaigns. It would be complicated to implement, and surely there would be ways of working around it (bundling the money in complicated ways like it's done now, or "laundering" it in different ways).
Members of Congress have openly stated that they can't afford to lose the Zionist/Pro-Likudnik votes for fear of seeing their competitors receiving the bulk of the money from that constituency on the next election. I'm sure most of those clowns know very little about the history of Israel/Palestine, or could even locate Gaza on a map – they just want those checks coming in. This total lack of representative democracy is a deeper problem in America, which enables the hardline Zionist sympathizers – and other special interest groups throwing money at politicians also having a negative effect on the American population – to really dig in and get what they want. Members of the Israel Lobby may not have much concern for the fate of Americans, but I don't think members of Congress really do either. To hell with the lot of them, I say.
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
"taking anyone to task "
Anyone? Hardly. If I took everybody to task that criticizes Israel, I'd be taking EVERYBODY to task. I see you're not above hyperbole in addition to your many other distortions.
"You haven't refuted a thing"
Another lie. I've refuted you and others at length. I'm the one who asks loads of questions which go unanswered.
"it is your disloyalty"
You thoughtless, paranoid fool! You don't even know where I'm posting from! Instead of refuting an argument on its own merit (or lack thereof), you choose to smear and discredit based on your own paranoid assumptions. If you can't make it personal, you simply have nothing to say. You're a joke!
Septimus
September 30th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
I use the term "juden" because my post won't be published if I try to use the standard three-letter term for our ethnic group.
This is a perfect example of how paranoid and delusional you are. You just confirmed everything I've been saying about you. You create a fictitious straw-man out of the ether practically every time you post. How many times have you falsely accused me of imaginary wrongdoing? I've lost track.
You're a complete and utter joke, Davis. What shameless lie will you spew next?
persnipoles
September 30th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
"Would any party with a genocidal, racist, or hateful agenda be accorded respect and legally permitted to compete?" Are you saying Nato should throw Likud out?
Jeff Davis
September 30th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Your paranoia is pathological. Check your nightlite. You used the term German term "Juden" for its historical impression it leaves. Just who are you trying ti kid? Yourself?
No one is fooled.
persnipoles
September 30th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Here I read: "Hamas and Hezbollah would love to…" "wip[e] all the Israelis off the map " But then the response to Jeff Davis below was "More mind-reading." But who had just been reading minds? Dish it out but don't take it, eh?
Sorry, it's kind of rude for me to butt in on multiple comments at once…but… Do you really have each Israeli act ostensibly vs. Hamas, Hezbollah, and the 'collaterals' so perfectly rationalized that you can exclude them from discussions, and from elections? You can gather on this site that exclusion and marginalization rather than discussion is a bit of a pattern in US/Israeli dealings. Do you really have H & H intentions and desires down so perfectly that their perspective doesn't matter? It would pay that investment in fantasy to target moderates rather than militants for assassination. Do you have any idea what you sound like as you flail at 'bigots' with these attitudes?
Johnny in Wi.
September 30th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
The Republicans are not going to back letting Pollard out. It would be suicide with their base. They might support war in a in a misguded patriotism, but they hate traitors.
persnipoles
September 30th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
"Maid Marian, charley caruso and the like" !!! "and the like" ???? What? Do all 'bigots' look alike to you? :>) I see one comment that I'd expect to be deleted, none I'd expect an author to respond to (not a comment on quality, they just don't fit).
You're being inconsistent again: if you want someone to repond to 'hate' here, why not respond to Hamas as you claim to perceive them? You're getting interesting… pull up a couch!
indianchief
September 30th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Wonder who is the hysteric here. Septicmus, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN DEFENSE OF POLLARD? That is the subject at hand, Not the fact that some of the readrs of this blog are so afraid of the israel-bashere that they are compelled to engage in brown nosing. You're full of shit. Amen
Avi of Mondoweiss
September 30th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
It is rather ironic, if not sickening, to see this so-called lover of Israel throw around Nazi terminology and racial slurs.
Septimus, why don't you log on to Mondoweiss with the same name you use here so I'll know with whom to mop the floor, you coward?
bogi666
October 1st, 2010 at 12:25 am
McCarthy was on Chiang's payroll to create anti Communism hysteria in the USG. He was a hard core alcoholic and died of alcoholism in 1954. The Repubican keep McCarthyism on at least the back burner and don't flinch to move it to front and center to create hysterical fears in an ignorant American population which is forged into mindlessness, the inability to discern thoughts from facts.
Septimus
October 1st, 2010 at 2:20 am
I'm glad I sicken you. You and Davis have the same effect on me.
Tweedledee says juden committed "suicide by goy" for 5000 years, and Tweedledum carries his "of Mondoweiss" like a sign, to advertise that he's one of the "good" juden. What's truly sickening is to watch you two churchmice spew your deep-seated self-loathing all over cyberspace. Could you guys hate and disown your own heritage a little more?
By the way, it doesn't surprise me at all to find out that you mop floors. At least it's more constructive than anything you do here.
Septimus
October 1st, 2010 at 2:34 am
"Your paranoia is pathological"
Wow, that's coming from a guy who recently said he's afraid of being clobbered in the massive pogrom he senses is just around the corner.
"No one is fooled"
Look, I told you the truth: I can't publish a post using the word j**. In other posts I've used "hebes" and "yids" to get around this obstacle, but they're kind of awkward. "Semites" isn't precise enough, and I didn't think anyone would understand "juifs", so I use "juden". The word "juden" predates the Holocaust, and everybody knows it. It's not a dirty word. What should I use, the "k" word? I'll leave that to you and Avi ("of Mondoweiss", lest we forget!).
Is this your M.O.? Yell and rant and insist that your preferred (and self-serving) version of reality becomes the truth? I don't have to keep explaining myself to your loony paranoid mind. This is getting tedious!
Delusion = a fixed false belief, not amenable to reason
You, Davis, are DELUDED ! ! !
Septimus
October 1st, 2010 at 2:53 am
You've got to be kidding me!
How is it "mind-reading" to cast aspersions on the intentions of Hamas and Hezbollah? Do I have to point out their myriad acts of terror? Nasrallah's genocidal declarations? The unaltered charter of Hamas? The indoctrination of their youth to hate? The malicious, defamatory lies they spread uniquitously? Their alliance with the bellicose nuts in Iran? And on and on…
If you're suggesting that they have the "perspective" of an oppressed people, and thus have an excuse to justify their genocidal extremism, you're forgetting that the leaders don't suffer like the regular folk. The "plight" of the leaders isn't commensurate with their program of murderous racial hatred and religious extremism. They make their intentions clear because they have an IDEOLOGY and an AGENDA. No mind-reading is required.
Maid Marian
October 1st, 2010 at 6:31 am
Septimus burbled: "Would Nazi-like fascist parties be allowed to run in an election in a civilized country, or would they be outlawed?"
Guess you've never heard of Shas or Yisrael Beitenu and Avigdor Lieberman. Last I heard both parties were doing quite well and Lieberman was the foreign minister.
Maid Marian
October 1st, 2010 at 8:57 am
Wow. Now telling the truth is "anti-semitism" and bigotry.
Who would have known?
charley caruso
October 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
When is someone going to comment on the outrageous firing of Rick Sanchez by CNN?
Read the transcript. There's not an anti-Semitic word in it.
Them Old Testament folks are running scared as they have been for 2,000 years.