Welcome to the Balkan Propaganda Machine
Some of the most salient events of the past 20 years were the NATO interventions in the Balkans, notably in Bosnia in 1995 and Kosovo in 1999. These interventions were crucial in reviving the importance of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, an organization that previously had been seen as a Cold War anachronism, destined to irrelevance. After the Balkan interventions, NATO gained a renewed sense of purpose and prestige. And these interventions gave a whole new rationale for U.S. military action, which is increasingly viewed as a humanitarian enterprise, aimed at stopping ethnic cleansing, atrocities, genocide, crimes against women, and the like. The Balkan interventions laid the political groundwork for later intervention, most recently in Libya.
The Balkan story has nevertheless been distorted in public discussion. Important facts have been suppressed, notably that Western intervention in Yugoslavia was a major cause of the country’s breakup and made possible all the wars that followed. Later rounds of intervention in Bosnia and Kosovo helped intensify the violence and increase the destruction, a point that is well documented even if little known. And contrary to popular belief, the Serbs were not the only ethnic group that contributed to Yugoslavia’s demise.
What I term the “Balkan propaganda machine” comprises academics, journalists, and bloggers who hold tenaciously to a simplified version of the Balkan wars as being caused almost entirely by Serbs; they view the later NATO interventions against the Serbs positively. For these activists, the Balkan conflict has become a great crusade, one that defies rational analysis. Any deviation from the prescribed narrative is considered an act of immorality, deserving of punishment. In addition, this crusade dovetails nicely with a neoconservative political agenda, which celebrates the Balkan interventions as historic achievements for U.S. hegemony.
A key figure in this propaganda effort is Marko Attila Hoare, a reader in history at Kingston University in England and a purported Balkan specialist. His technique is intimidation, a predilection that is shared by a wider community of propagandists with whom he collaborates. Hoare openly boasts that writers who disagree with his positions are “like lambs to the slaughter” who will surely “sacrifice any reputations they might have.” He is not subtle.
My own encounter with Hoare arose from my book First Do No Harm: Humanitarian Intervention and the Destruction of Yugoslavia, published by Vanderbilt University Press in 2009. Clearly, Hoare did not like the book, which was critical of the interventions. On his website, Hoare soon launched a blistering attack against me titled “The Bizarre World of Genocide Denial,” and then followed up with further attacks on ModernityBlog.
The characterization of me as a genocide denier was quickly picked up by others on the Internet. An anonymous posting to the Srebrenica Genocide Blog referred to me as “David N. Gibbs, genocide denier.” According to another posting, at the website of the Congress of North American Bosniaks: “Gibbs’ pernicious denial of genocide calls into question not only his academic credibility, but his very qualifications to hold tenure at a university at all. … [Gibbs] has made a deliberate misinterpretation of facts.”
Yet another site, Balkan Witness, placed me on their long list of “war crimes deniers.” Several of these attacks prominently featured my photograph, presumably to ensure that their readers would recognize my face.
When I first saw Hoare’s attack, I was not unduly concerned, since it was written with such sensationalist language and key points used to sustain the attack were clearly false and easily provable as such. I wrote an extended response, in which I documented the falsity of Hoare’s claims, and expected this would end the matter. After all, a purveyor of obvious falsehoods would lose credibility — right? This turned out to be a naïve assumption in the irrational world of Internet chat rooms.
After I replied, Hoare began churning out new attacks against me. He made no serious effort to refute my evidence that his earlier attacks had been false; he simply created more extravagant falsehoods, often presented at great length. One of his reviews began by strongly implying that my book was the equivalent of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Nazi propaganda, along with an associated insinuation that I must be an anti-Semite. This was presented without a shred of evidence.
These incendiary references to anti-Semitism connect with the larger attack on me as a supposed genocide denier, and all this rhetoric serves to raise the emotionalism of the controversy — which is presumably Hoare’s overarching intention.
The insinuation that I am somehow an anti-Semite is ironic, given that I am a practicing Jew from a refugee background (my father was born in Berlin). I have no respect for Hoare’s manipulative use of the Holocaust to silence discussion on the Balkans, just as I have no respect for those who use the Holocaust to silence discussion on the Middle East.
In addition, Hoare repeatedly made claims about my writing that had no connection to anything I had actually written, and in several cases were the opposite of my stated views. What I present below about Hoare’s falsifications constitutes the proverbial tip of the iceberg. I could easily have provided more examples. Whether these resulted from incompetence or intentional deception is hard to say.
Particularly troubling was his repeated use of fake quotations from my work. The first example of fakery is a message that Hoare posted to an Internet discussion: “Your [Gibbs’] account of the background to the Srebrenica massacre presents the Muslims/Bosnian army as the ones principally guilty of the atrocities in the region, and of having ‘created the hatred’ there (pp. 153-154).”
Note that he attributes to me the phrase “created the hatred,” which is presented as a direct quote, with quotation marks. In reality, this phrase appears in none of my writings — not on the pages 153-154 that Hoare cites or anywhere else — and the essence of its meaning corresponds to nothing I have ever said. It is a fabrication.
At another point, Hoare attributes to me the phrase “creating the hatred,” again presented as a direct quote. The quote is once again a fabrication. And there is a third fake quote, which appears in the very title of one of Hoare’s attack reviews: “First Check Their Sources 2: The Myth that ‘Most of Bosnia Was Owned by the Serbs Before the War.’”
The first part of the title (“First Check Their Sources”) is a play on words from the title of my book, which is First Do No Harm. The embedded phrase in Hoare’s title (“Most of Bosnia Was Owned…”) is presented as a direct quote, with quotation marks. This quote is another fabrication, which falsifies both the literal wording of my book and also the substance of my stated views.
Over a period of two months, Hoare’s attacks against my work became voluminous. I found that Hoare could attack much faster than I could respond. He had a key advantage: whereas I felt a need to check the facts in my posts, Hoare seemed indifferent to whether his postings were true or false. He repeatedly contradicted himself. In the end, Hoare posted four extended attack reviews on his own website, totaling some 26 single-spaced pages when printed out. In addition, he followed up with numerous additional attacks on me in an Internet chat room, which sparked yet further attacks by the anonymous posters who frequent such venues.
The tone became venomous, especially among the anonymous posters, some of whom clearly had emotional problems. Several of the posters reminded me of extremist figures I encounter in my home state, which I did not find reassuring. Attacks began appearing all over the Internet, each seeming to be more ludicrous than the last. A review of my book posted to BarnesAndNoble.com stated: “The author is a self-declared supporter of Serbia and Russia. … Gibbs’ friendship with KGB agent and The Guardian writer [name redacted] speak about the author.” In reality, I had never even heard of this person, whose name I have redacted to avoid repeating a slur.
The smears are having some effect. If one performs a Google search of my name, the various attack postings by Hoare and others are among the very first to emerge, and this has remained consistent over a period of many months. Thus, if anyone is interested in searching my work, “David N. Gibbs, genocide denier” is among the first hits.
This is not the first time that smear tactics have been used. If one peruses the various Balkan websites, one finds numerous attacks directed against large numbers of prominent academics, journalists, and public figures.
These smears are not just confined to the Internet. In 2005, The Guardian published an attack article on Noam Chomsky, which included a sensational allegation that Chomsky had denied that any massacre had occurred at Srebrenica. The Guardian’s main evidence was that Chomsky had referred to the Srebrenica massacre with quotation marks around the word “massacre.”
In reality, Chomsky had never used scare quotes to describe the Srebrenica massacre, and The Guardian’s allegation to the contrary was false (moreover, Chomsky had never denied that what happened at Srebrenica was a massacre). Because of this and other egregious flaws, The Guardian‘s editors retracted the article from their website and issued an apology. This episode proved a major embarrassment for the newspaper.
Hoare protested the editors’ decision to apologize, and he used extravagant language to make his points: the author of the Guardian attack on Chomsky had been “stabbed in the back” by the editors and subjected to “an unparalleled campaign of vilification.” In addition, Hoare insinuated that the editors were caving in to the “Milosevic lobby,” rather than responding to legitimate complaints about falsification. There was just one nagging problem: Hoare did not dispute that the article contained false information regarding Chomsky’s characterization of the Srebrenica massacre; instead, he dismissed the falsehood as “one small error of detail,” barely worthy of criticism.
This incident illustrates Hoare’s casual attitude regarding the importance of accuracy.
I have filed a complaint against Hoare with his home institution, Kingston University, requesting an apology for the multiple falsehoods in his attacks against me. Kingston’s dean of arts and social sciences, Martin McQuillan, perfunctorily acknowledged receiving my complaint over seven months ago. Apart from this, he has not responded to me.
Dean McQuillan’s failure to respond is curious. Repeatedly making up false statements and then declining to retract them — as Hoare has clearly done — seem like serious academic violations. Note that McQuillan has not denied my claims against Hoare, nor has he defended Hoare in any way; he has simply failed to respond.
Hoare probably feels protected by his association with a larger network of writers who share much of his perspective, especially among the Balkan diaspora in Britain and the U.S. Hoare is a former student of Yale professor Ivo Banac, who later became a minister in the Croatian government. He is also close to Josip Glaurdic, another former student of Banac and an up-and-coming figure among pro-Croatian academics. At various times, Hoare has been active in neoconservative political groups, notably the Henry Jackson Society, as well as the Bosnian Institute. The latter is directed by Hoare’s father (with his mother also listed on the Institute masthead as a consultant). Both organizations have been major sources of interventionist propaganda, influential on both sides of the Atlantic. In addition, Hoare has associated with academics at Oxford and Cambridge — partly through his parents’ Bosnian Institute network. His writing has appeared in David Horowitz’s FrontpageMag.com.
These connections no doubt give Hoare the confidence to undertake his attacks, which have been highly effective in intimidating free discussion.
Consider the 1995 Srebrenica massacre. The basic facts of the massacre — and that the Serb forces bear the overwhelming responsibility for perpetrating it — are widely acknowledged. However, there remains debate among legal specialists about whether this massacre should be classed as a genocide or a war crime, with no clear consensus on this question. By frivolously hurling the smear phrase “genocide denier” against critics, Hoare seeks to suppress this debate, in order to preserve a simplified version of the Srebrenica massacre and of the Balkan wars more generally.
And the circumstances that led to the massacre are considerably more complicated than is popularly believed. For example, there is little doubt that the Muslim government of Alija Izetbegović allowed Srebrenica to fall to Serb militias, as part of their policy of encouraging Serb atrocities and thus shocking the Western powers into intervening against the Serbs; in doing this, the government contributed to the massacre that followed. Yet these facts remain suppressed in public discussions of the Bosnia war, which typically celebrate the virtues of the Muslim government. Once again, the intimidation campaigns have obscured vital information.
In a sense, Hoare and his colleagues have no choice but to intimidate. They cannot sustain their claims about the Balkan wars through logical arguments, because the facts do not support their case. Hence, they resort to character assassinations, which serve to distract from the facts and debase public discussion.
The widespread use of character assassination to stifle discussion is not just confined to those who write on Yugoslavia. Indeed, this tactic has become standard practice among neoconservatives generally, a point recently emphasized by Harvard’s Stephen Walt:
U.S. neoconservatives have long demonstrated [that] the best defense is sometimes a good offense. No influential political faction in America is more willing to engage in character assassination and combative politics than they are. … I’m talking about the tendency to accuse those with whom they disagree of being unpatriotic, morally bankrupt, anti-Semitic, or whatever. Their willingness to play hardball intimidates a lot of people, which in turn protects them from a full accounting for their past actions.
The Balkan propaganda machine fits perfectly into this overall pattern. And like the neocons described above, Hoare seems to view himself as above accountability, even for his use of false statements and fake quotations.
I assume Hoare will respond in his usual way, by launching ever more vitriolic attacks against me, along with renewed allegations of genocide denial, insinuations of anti-Semitism, and the like. But before doing this, he might want to explain all the falsehoods that have so marred his previous efforts, as specified in my letter to Kingston University. And perhaps the Kingston administrators can explain whether they have any standards at all with respect to academic fraud.
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antiwar7
June 10th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Sorry it had to happen to you, but that's what happens when one publicly deviates from the anti-Serb dogma. Note: one doesn't have to be pro-Serb—just not anti-Serb.
Look at Canadian Gen. Lewis MacKenzie, former UNPROFOR commander, falsely accused of raping Bosnian Muslim women. Or look at George Kenney, former US State Dept. cause celebre, later dropped from the Carnegie Endowment for International (War) Peace and driven to live in his parent's basement. Check out what happened to Björn Ecklund, the managing editor of the Swedish magazine Ordfront, who lost his job for publishing an interview with Diana Johnstone. Look at the English Wikipedia article on the Swedish politician and Balkan mediator Carl Bildt—you can see the accusations of "British historian" Marko Attila Hoare. There are many more examples. Were any of these people objectively pro-Serb? No, just not anti-Serb, or not anti-Serb enough.
Just a Person
June 10th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Well I am glad that we still have some honest people in Academia who believe in quaint notions like truth and integrity…
There is nothing more odious than fake academics like this Marko Attila Hoare (and many others) who pollute the important art of history with pure lies…doing a great disservice to every ordinary man and woman who are looking for an understanding of the truth…but are in fact badly misled by propagandists posing as historians, academics and journalists…
Rohas
June 11th, 2012 at 12:16 am
No wonder that a Davis Gibbs now appears to rewrite the "Balkans war" or more precisely Serbian aggression on the independent ans sovereign states emerged by dissolution of Yugoslavia. Certainly that Serbs had a prepared plan of creating a Greater Serbia with all means even during the late Tito's rule.However they could do nothing unless Britain, France, US, Germany, allowed Serbs to act. These countries sent their UN Forces, pretending to keep the peace and in fact they were defending themselves. They were sending various humanitarian aid, instead of lifting embargo on arms so that the victims of Serb aggression could defend themselves. They even imported groups of Mujahedeens to fight (God knows for whose interests). Not long after Lord Owen's visit north-western part of Bosnia, a separatist Abdic (a Muslim spent 15 years of imprisonment in Croatia for war crimes) started fighting against the Bosnian Army. And most of UN Forces took side of Serbs.
Gen. Lewis MacKenzie did rape Bosnian Muslim girls (not women) taken prisoners by Serbs in the building called Kula in the occupied part of Sarajevo, and as for Carl Bilt, he was then and is still on the side of Serbs – one serious investigation could easily reveal his stocks in Serbia's economy. Even his getting the office of foreign minister in Sweden is very suspicious after a Serb killed in Stockholm the official Swedish foreign minister.
Serbs now started lobbing everywhere in the world to fabricate the history and facts of their aggression in the "Balkans war".
Marko Attila Hoare, his father and his mother (originating from the Balkans) are quite familiar with this Serbian aggression which is not the first time to happen.
I am sorry that Mr. Gibbs in this article put the "facts" from the Serbia's propaganda that we have listened to since the end of the war.
Rohas
Serb
June 11th, 2012 at 12:22 am
While reading your experience, one thought came to my mind. The tactic that was used, with new assaults instead of answering the argument, is prime characterization of a person with psychopathic disorder.
More about psychopaths and their role in our society http://ponerology.com/. Please read this book, it can help You
understand what are You against.
Popsiq
June 11th, 2012 at 3:27 am
Hoare? Any relative of Mike Hoare the mercenary?
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mlnw
June 11th, 2012 at 8:18 am
History seems to have repeated itself in Libya, and again now in realtime in Syria.
Your thesis about Yugoslavia proved to be correct, and seems to have been part of a much larger cold war geopolitical strategy to expand US and NATO influence and contain Russia (and China), including the Turkish "Gladio" project and the training of terrorists in Chechnya (which the Russians handled through its targeted assassinations of Turks and massive suppression in Chechnya) and after "Gladio" was exposed, "madrassa" training centers in the Caucasus and Central Asia using the Turkish imam, Fethullah Gulen as a figurehead.
Re: the war in Kosovo, according to the Canadian Ambassador Bissett, it appears that the Lisbon solution was sabotaged and taken off the table at the urging of US Ambassador Warren Zimmerman and that meant the war would go on for another two and a half years. (See the interview at: http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2012/04/remembering-b….
And during that time, the media was complicit in staging terrorist incidents which were in fact provoked by Kosovo, but which captured only the Serbian military response.
mlnw
June 11th, 2012 at 8:18 am
History seems to have repeated itself in Libya, and again now in realtime in Syria.
Your thesis about Yugoslavia proved to be correct, and seems to have been part of a much larger cold war geopolitical strategy to expand US and NATO influence and contain Russia (and China), including the Turkish "Gladio" project and the training of terrorists in Chechnya (which the Russians handled through its targeted assassinations of Turks and massive suppression in Chechnya) and after "Gladio" was exposed, "madrassa" training centers in the Caucasus and Central Asia using the Turkish imam, Fethullah Gulen as a figurehead.
Re: the war in Kosovo, according to the Canadian Ambassador Bissett, it appears that the Lisbon solution was sabotaged and taken off the table at the urging of US Ambassador Warren Zimmerman and that meant the war would go on for another two and a half years. (See the interview at: http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2012/04/remembering-b….
And during that time, the media was complicit in staging terrorist incidents which were in fact provoked by Kosovo, but which captured only the Serbian military response.
MvGuy
June 11th, 2012 at 8:19 am
WOW…..!!!!!!! What a sea of sorrow [we have..??] has been created in Yugoslavia…….. It would be interesting to know what, if any, part U.S./NATO/Israeli intelligence assets and or agent provocateurs may have played, precipitated or covertly funded in the violent break-up of Yugoslavia…….
It would be nice to hear what antiwar's in-house Balkans man Nebojsa Malic has to say on these topics
MvGuy
June 11th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Your [just blame the Serbs] legend seems naive to me, Rohas…. Too oblivious too…………
Nathan
June 11th, 2012 at 9:58 am
On the basis of what it has been doing after the USSR implosion, now a more appropriate name for NATO is North Atlantic Terrorist Organization.
Nik
June 11th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Mr Rohas is the expert
Fist of all your legend story about General Lewis rape is wrong since the Bosnian Muslim Goverment accuse acusse him about rape in Vogosca reseraunt name "Vesna" which is on oposite of side of the city. Those are your facts…right ????
As far the Marko Atilla coming from balkans I assume you did't forgot the crimes his Countryman commited as Hungarin fashist in WWII and the banks of Denub river.Is it pssibel that his parents still having the same grudge against the Serbs.If was was in any case named antisemit I would make a sure that my law suite would make him to live on garbage dump yard.
The only way is to make a fund for good paid lawers an to get him in the court along all people who support his stand..The only way
as for deserts have a take a popcorns and have a look at his movie made by Novergian journalists…nota Ssrbs — A town betrayed on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=izdan…
Bianca
June 11th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Each sentence is a falsehood. Bosnian civil war was not a genocide, as it was NOT aimed against any people because of their race, religion, nationality or ethnicity. Moslems of the entire Western Bosnia led by Fikret Abdic and Serbs were ALLIED against Clinton-propped Izetbegovic. . Abdic is the living proof that Serbs and Moslems fought together, died together and sheltered each other in the war against Clinton-propped Izetbegovic and HIS imported Muhajedin. But Europeans caved in, and NATO "humanitarian" bombs solved the problem — Izetbegovic was propped up, victorious. To justify imposing Izetbegovic on all Bosnian Moslems, Srebrenica myth HAD to be born. Thus,a "genocide" was perpetrated in just this ONE village. This was to LEGITIMIZE West-propped Izetbegovic regime in Sarajevo, silence all others, and under the cover of media frenzy — hide from sight a real genocide. The murder of over 15,000 people and the expulsion of hundreds of thousands from Serb Krajina region of Croatia. Srebrenica is a monument to this "achievement". This is why Fikret Abdicis is still in Croatian jail.
Bianca
June 11th, 2012 at 11:38 am
And this is why the neocons do not like such quaint notions, as tenure. They like everyone in the academia to be vulnerable, to pay personal price for daring to tell the truth. They are the "truth makers" and the "reality makers' and the "economy makers". They are Gods.
druid55
June 11th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Sorry, but the Serbs are aggressors and responsible for murder and ethnic cleansing. No amount of spin can change that.
08oo
June 11th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Why defending and handling lies or wasting time with lies in such an extent? Just tell us and proof what is the truth. This is what is needed.
BTW – there is many evidence, that the official Srebrenica massacre did not take place. Yes there were many death, but because 15000 men, most/many armed, did not lay down weapons, but went on a 30 miles walk trough the trough the Serb lines (forrest) where they came under fire and came into minefields – where according to muslim withnesses "the group suicides began" – with hand granates between a group of friends. However – many men reached the muslim Bosnian territory. Mladic in the the film the Srebrenica massacre" did appeare as honorably and very fair man, who never would command or would let happen murder of thousands.
BTW – do you rember the "Srebrenica massacre proof"- video where about six men – handcuffed at their back – were executed? In the second part of the video … the "executed" stand up again (!) and in fact: watching the viedo again shows, that despite of shooting in their back – you can not see bullets going into their back — it was no real ammunition !
Their principal method: Fireworks of lies that grabs emotion and creates blind hate, that switches off brain and rationality.
This has been done to justify any war of a long list since the 90-ies till Syria today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-TZxI8m8ss
more detailed: time window of ten or more years for war against former soviet satellitestates, e.g. Irak, Syria, Libyen, Somalia, Lebanon, Sudan, Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8&fe…
so actually Yugoslavia also belongs to this former soviet client states. May be he does not like to tell this because it was himself who did lead this war as commander and is not the dove of peace he tries to appear in his speeches.
08oo
June 11th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Why defending and handling lies or wasting time with lies in such an extent? Just tell us and proof what is the truth. This is what is needed.
BTW – there is many evidence, that the official Srebrenica massacre did not take place. Yes there were many death, but because 15000 men, most/many armed, did not lay down weapons, but went on a 30 miles walk trough the trough the Serb lines (forrest) where they came under fire and came into minefields – where according to muslim withnesses "the group suicides began" – with hand granates between a group of friends. However – many men reached the muslim Bosnian territory. Mladic in the the film the Srebrenica massacre" did appeare as honorably and very fair man, who never would command or would let happen murder of thousands.
BTW – do you rember the "Srebrenica massacre proof"- video where about six men – handcuffed at their back – were executed? In the second part of the video … the "executed" stand up again (!) and in fact: watching the viedo again shows, that despite of shooting in their back – you can not see bullets going into their back — it was no real ammunition !
Their principal method: Fireworks of lies that grabs emotion and creates blind hate, that switches off brain and rationality.
This has been done to justify any war of a long list since the 90-ies till Syria today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-TZxI8m8ss
more detailed: time window of ten or more years for war against former soviet satellitestates, e.g. Irak, Syria, Libyen, Somalia, Lebanon, Sudan, Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8&fe…
so actually Yugoslavia also belongs to this former soviet client states. May be he does not like to tell this because it was himself who did lead this war as commander and is not the dove of peace he tries to appear in his speeches.
mlnw
June 11th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
You've hit on a key issue.
Brambo
June 11th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Well-nailed Mr (Dr?) Gibbs, bit like shooting a repulsive and inedible fish in a small barrel really, but obviously some decent folk have to do it in the names of historical truth and social justice. Hoare: patent narcissist IMHO; talks big, thinks small and is essentially a floundering and impotently bombastic invertebrate out of the buoyant, ego-strokative, nurturing environment of cyberspace. Wonder if he gets a retainer from various neoconfusative sources? BTW there is a 'KIngston University'?! Wasn't that the Northern Gyratory College of Further Eduction up to a few years ago?
mlnw
June 11th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Given the connections you have been able to draw between Hoare and the neocons, including David Horowitz, the attempts to discredit you and the viciousness of the attacks, are more easily understood, as is Kingston University's silence and failure to take action. This is illustrative of the power behind closed doors that has hijacked US and NATO policy and would seek to destroy anyone shedding light on the real facts.
Good that you have the fortitude and integrity to continue to speak truth to power.
Winston_Smith3
June 11th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
I suggest, ir, that as a practising jew you remind these people that the Ustasa and the followers of the grand Mufti of Jerusalem that became the handscar and Kamar SS Divisions were violently anti-semitic and responsible for murdering and wiping out most of the Jewish population in that part of the world.
Then there was the famous conversation at the ReichsChancellory Speer had buit for his Fuhrer. in August 1941 on the occasion of Palevic's visit.
Ante Palevic (new Croatian fuhrer "My Fuhrer, My Fuhrer, we have totally solved the Jewish Question in Croatia!"
Adolf Hitler "roatia must have a policy of intolerance for 50 years".
Fast forward the 50 years.
In Washington they hold a meeting. "These people we are using were responsible for killing a lot of the jewish community in that region. if the Interlectuals and American Jewish Community find out they will organise demonstrations. What can we do?"
They decided to hire PR firms and launch a propaganda campaign to distract attention from this.
johnUK
June 11th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
"and as for Carl Bilt, he was then and is still on the side of Serbs – one serious investigation could easily reveal his stocks in Serbia's economy."
With friends like that who needs enemies.
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2839
Reader
June 11th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
In case that Dr. Gibbs reads this, it would be useful to dismiss Hoare's fraudulent and dishonest campaign of labeling and attacking honest people in his usual (Hoaresque-Goebbelsian) manner:
- Hoare's 'philo-Semitic' pose is both fake and misleading toward the readers unfamiliar with the Balkans. Hoare himself has repeatedly defended such anti-Semitic monsters as Croatia's president Franjo Tudjman (a loud Holocaust denier and Ustasha apologist) and Bosnian Muslim leader Alija Izetbegovic (who – as the great Michael Parenti noted years ago – was not ONLY a nazi-sympathizer, but a FORMER nazi youth). It is provable in matter of seconds.
- even more despicably, Hoare manages to come out as an outrageous Ustasha-apologist in his monstrous campaign directed against one of the oldest and most respected Serbian Jewish Holocaust survivors, a notable journalist and Holocaust historian, Mr. Jasa Almuli, who to this days (Mr. Almuli is in his mid-nineties) doesn't give up defending the memory of Jewish, Serbian and Romani victims of nazi and ustasha crimes during the Balkan genocide 1941-45. Just Google-check a disgusting viral hysteria smearing Mr. Almuli's good name (more bizzarely, the whole thing was executed by nazi/ustasha apologists: apart from Hoare, there is also a "Congress of Norh American Bosniacs" involved in this, a pressure group founded by none other than the son of one of the "ministers" in the "government" of nazi Croatia in WW2).
Hope that helps.
johnUK
June 11th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
That’s because what happened in the Balkans and in the North Caucasus are inter-connected like WW2 who want to annex the North Caucasus so they can control the Caspian basin that the largest European orientated land mass in Russian controlled Dagestan and the oil pipelines routes that bypass Russia travelling through Turkey and the new Balkan states into Europe.
“It was at this moment that in the surroundings of the Chechen leadership appeared an English businessman of Polish descent Mansour Yahimchik, who had in due time been one of the leaders of the Polish «Solidarity» in Krakow. He suddenly showed unexpected interest in the Sufi version of Islam in Chechnya, was naturalized as a citizen of «Ichkeria», became the Chechen presidential adviser on foreign economic issues. At his suggestion the Chechen leaders got in contact with the British financial elite, he was arranging meetings of the Chechen leaders with the English Lords, with Margaret Thatcher, with heads of major companies."
johnUK
June 11th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
"With the direct participation of this Pole-Englishman in April 1997 was established a Caucasian investment fund, in Washington was registered the Caucasus-American Chamber of Commerce and Industry, and Lord McAlpine – Representative of the Financial Group at Goldsmiths – promised to invest 3 billion dollars in the Chechen oil industry, but given that he gets the right of general tenancy of the entire Chechen oil industry. In fact, already at that time the matter concerned purchase of the Chechen oil industry, which later was tried to be performed by Khodorkovsky.”
There is an ethnic Turkic dimension to the War on Terror.
Robert
June 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Bang on, David. You are right on target. I served in the Balkans under the UN supposed 'Protection' Forces in 1993. What I personally observed about this ostensibly 'neutral' military alliance was not even close to its charter. Every morning the Canadian Colonel would rant wildly about those 'f…kin Serbs'. Funny, he never vilified the HVo ior BiH that way. Also, on our military graphics the Serbs were depicted in red. This is the operational graphic designation of 'The Enemy'. Intellegence reports were always proof-read by the propagandists to portray an anti-Serb bias. And I was told by an American General, in 1993 (two years before Screbrinica) the NATO plan to go into Bosnia, then later go into Kosovo. This was all pre-planned. So, there was never any pretense at neutrality in this war. It was always one-sided from the begining.
Hoare and Kingston are simply pathetic mouthpieces for the empire. They have no core being. They can only parrot what they are told to say, becuase they fear the empire. And, I'm sure the Empire rewards them with their cheap academic credentials for being such cowardly lackeys.
Stay strong. You will prevail in this argument. The truth is a very stubborn thing.
antiwar7
June 11th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Exactly. His crime: not being anti-Serb enough.
antiwar7
June 11th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Thanks for bearing witness.
Toronto
June 11th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
It is interesting 16 years after the war you will not here form apologists like Atilla &Co about
prison camps for Serbs like :
old silo in town name Tarcin 26 lost lives for 3 1/2 years
or Viktor Bubanj in Sarajevo
or Hrasnica Prison in underground parking 65 Serbian civilians executed after Muslim defeat in August 1992 while trying to attack Serbs in Vojkovici separation line.
How about KAZANI pit in Sarajevo just hundreds of meters away from Holiday Inn where the Journalist elite of CNN BBC, never heard about Serbs taken form their houses
in Sarajevo and executed by Musan Topalovic nick name Caco …I guess that never happened.
The old idea of Goobers still lives will all this media and any idea about free press is just a joke.So if you build academic elite to support freedom in the world your job is done.
As I have seen some of the signs on T shearts in Toronto saying…."be nice to USA or we will bring democracy to your place"
David N. Gibbs
June 12th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
I want to thank everyone for taking the time to comment on my article.
I agree with Nobojsa Malic's point: The main issue is that Hoare and friends cannot make their points through logical arguments, and it is for this reason that they resort to smears. The whole purpose of smears is to distract everyone from the facts.
Hopefully, Hoare's dean at Kingston University will offer his comment on what may well be a case of academic fraud, or at least gross incompetence.
David N. Gibbs
June 12th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
I want to thank everyone for taking the time to comment on my article.
I agree with Nobojsa Malic's point: The main issue is that Hoare and friends cannot make their points through logical arguments, and it is for this reason that they resort to smears. The whole purpose of smears is to distract everyone from the facts.
Hopefully, Hoare's dean at Kingston University will offer his comment on what may well be a case of academic fraud, or at least gross incompetence.
mlnw
June 13th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Thank you for all of this information. They add a lot to an understanding of why and how this happened
MvGuy
June 13th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Thank You Dr. Gibbs for informing us of this situation… It is from incidents like these that we learn their motives and tactics. Please continue to carry on your good fight…
InterestedParty
July 13th, 2012 at 4:13 am
Prof Gibbs is to be commended for bringing these issues to light. Hoare has been getting away these intimidatory practices for far too long. Originally seen as the doyen of the Serbo-phobe academics, Hoare gained prominence more from his connections to a clique of 'celebrity' neo-con hacks (e.g. Oliver Kamm) than from his academic endeavours. Hoare's scholarship was never very compelling, in fact it has never functioned as anything more than a 'bridgehead' to give his more poisonous scribblings – his 'blog' postings – some semblance of credibility. The reality of Hoare's standing, which he and his few followers would rather ignore, is that he has blogged himself into an academic backwater. From starting off with influential sponsors such as Banac as Simms, Hoare has blown the opportunities presented to him and is now an irrelevance: ostracised by the mainstream academic community, almost never seen at academic meetings, FO briefings, etc. Much of Hoare's output is more 'vanity publishing' than well-regarded scholarship. Saqi is in effect the 'house publisher' for the Bosnia Institute (i.e. Hoare's mater and pater).
I have little doubt that Kingston would like to see the back of him. McQuillan has surely hauled him over the carpet in private, the proof being that he now seems to be posting rarely and only then under pseudonyms. Being such an incontinent blogger, Hoare must now be feeling like a tom cat that has just be 'fixed' at the vets. Hoare is posting under the names 'East' on dobbs.foreignpolicy.com and 'Americro' on the Guardian's Comment Is Free and elsewhere. One of the comments from 'East' is particularly affecting: "I use a pseudonym mainly because I have had uncomfortable experiences under my real name on the Internet". One has to (almost) admire Hoare's chutzpah – here is the chap who does his damnedest to ensure that those he attacks have continual "uncomfortable (internet) experiences" playing the victim, a role that Hoare excels in. Anything that confronts or might undermine his CNAB-approved narrative of events in Bosnia he tries to smear as "blaming the victims". Prof Gibbs notes many instances of this in his article. The real 'victim' in all this however is Hoare himself: the (recently neutered) blogger finds himself in a world which is largely disinterested in his offerings. Unsurprisingly, Hoare has become increasingly bitter and his attacks ever more vicious. Like many a loner, he tries to garner allies though flattery, hoping they will stand shoulder-to-shoulder with him and perhaps even join in 'the cause', i.e. crafting smear/hate pages. Josip GGG is a case in point here. In one of his smear attacks on Gibbs, Hoare's thanks "JG" for supplying material – much like the delinquent who spray-paints a chums name alongside their own hoping they will join in more forcefully next time. Given Hoare's current standing – and accelerating downwards trajectory – it's doubtful that GGG will welcome the recognition that he has assisted Hoare in one of his smear/hate campaigns. In fact, the 'respectable' pro-Cro lobby (Banac, Simms) probably see GGG as Hoare Mk 2. That is, a replacement since the original has clearly malfunctioned, and showing worrying signs that it will crash spectacularly. GGG has all the 'tomorrow belongs to me' arrogance possessed by the products of that stable, witness his Rottweiler response to David Kanin's fair and measured review of GGG's book on Transconflict. It remains to be seen if GGG will follow Hoare into academic oblivion – his evident participation in one of Hoare's smear campaigns at this early stage in his career doesn't augur too well for the Banac & Simms Mk 2 model.
InterestedParty
July 13th, 2012 at 4:14 am
Prof Gibbs is not quite right regarding the nature of the smear pages. Whilst Hoare would no doubt delight in damaging the reputations of his 'enemies' (as he so ludicrously boasts), the smear pages are in reality vicious hate pages. By any reasonable measure, Hoare in his writings (and, from what I've heard, in person) comes across as a hate-filled, nasty little individual for whom every confrontation assumes a deeply personal dimension. His thuggish attacks – under his own name and various pseudonyms on SGB – are thinly disguised 'face slashing'. He would surely use a razor on his victims if he could get away with it. This explains the psychopathic pleasure he takes in including photos of his victims on the smear pages, making them de facto 'targets'. The shooting of Senator Giffords after similarly being made a 'target' on Palin's website must surely cause Hoare to delight in his handiwork. Of course none of this would be noticed if Hoare was not provided with a helper (Toljaga) to continually churn, link and tag material on webapges so that those attacked show up high in Google searches of their name. A nasty little technique, but very effective and fairly common (lobby groups funded by the oil industry frequently use it to give unrepresentative prominence to their phoney-science articles minimising anthropogenic climate change).
The irony of this 'Google bombing' is that it throws in to sharp relief just how marginalised Hoare truly is: the only thing left that he has any influence over are the search rankings on Google. And then it's for the sole purpose of bringing to notice his hate pages. To achieve this, Hoare and Toljaga have no compunction whatsoever in cynically exploiting the mass of atrocity material on SGB – it serves as nothing more than search-engine bait. The attacks have always been at the edges of legality, but have become even more extreme of late. Now fearing criminal as well as civil prosecution, Toljaga has removed his name and contact email from the SGB website. Toljaga must be as hate-filled as Hoare to be the significant other in this partnership. What is perhaps at first surprising is that seemingly 'respectable' bodies such as CNAB and the grandiloquently titled Institute for Genocide Research Canada (IGRC) appear to condone Hoare and Toljaga's activities – they are prominent members of both bodies. Perhaps the reality is that, for these two purely online presences, they amount to precious little more than Hoare, Toljaga, a nominal 'chairperson' or two, and a lot of easily obtained padding, i.e. many well-intentioned individuals who, unfamiliar with what Hoare and Toljaga are really about, lend their name to what seems like a good cause.
InterestedParty
July 13th, 2012 at 4:21 am
Stop Press: Hoare has also been posting on CIF as 'Shqiptaria'. He made several posts referring to Prof Gibbs as a "discredited academic" – some cheek, eh? It looks like the moderators removed most of his postings.
InterestedParty
July 13th, 2012 at 4:25 am
Ooops; "Josip GGG" is of course " Josip Glaurdic"
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