Coming Home at Last?
Asked if the United States might send still more troops to Afghanistan, if the Obama surge is not succeeding by year’s end, Vice President Joe Biden answered, "I do not believe so."
So, that is it. Biden is saying the 100,000 U.S. troops in theater or on the way is our limit. If Kabul and the Afghan army fail with this investment of American forces, they will be permitted to fail. All the chips we are going to commit are now on the table.
And a series of critical deadlines is approaching.
By the end of August, all U.S. combat troops are to be out of Iraq. Only 50,000 "training troops" are to remain, but all U.S. forces are scheduled to be withdrawn by the end of 2011.
In December, a review takes place of Afghan war strategy. Next July, U.S. withdrawals are to begin, though, since naming Gen. David Petraeus as his field commander, President Obama and his cabinet have emphasized that the withdrawals will be "conditions-based."
We will walk, not run, to the exit.
But if we are topping out in Afghanistan, and the U.S. troop presence in Iraq is already less than half of the 170,000 after the surge of 2007, it seems America is on her way out of both wars.
What did they accomplish — and at what cost?
Saddam and his Ba’athist regime were overthrown, the dictator was hanged, elections were held, and a government that reflects the will of a majority of Iraqis put in its place.
Cost to the United States: More than 4,200 U.S. dead, 35,000 wounded, $700 billion sunk. In the Islamic world, the Iraq War led to pandemic hostility toward America. At home, the war led to the rout of the Republicans and the election of an antiwar liberal Democrat.
If Obama is indeed leading America into socialism, the War Party that led us into Iraq can take a full measure of credit.
And what is the cost to the Iraqi people of a U.S. invasion and occupation and seven-year war, the end of which is nowhere in sight?
Perhaps 100,000 dead, half a million widows and orphans, 4 million refugees, half having fled their country, devastation of a Christian community that dated to the time of Christ and the ethnic cleansing of the Sunnis from Baghdad.
Four months after elections, they have no government, and bombs that kill dozens still go off daily. And, when the Americans leave, a civil and sectarian war may return. The breakup of Iraq along ethnic and religious lines remains a possibility. The price of liberation is high.
And what did the Iraqis do to deserve this? Did they attack us?
No. They had nothing to do with 9/11 and had complied with the U.S. demand to eliminate all weapons of mass destruction years before the U.S. Army stormed in to discover and destroy those weapons.
And we wonder why these ungrateful people hate us.
The Afghan War was, at its inception, a just war.
If the Taliban would not turn over bin Laden and those who plotted the mass murder of 3,000 Americans, we had a right to go in after him, as Woodrow Wilson had a right to send Gen. John Pershing into Mexico to find and kill Pancho Villa after he murdered Americans in New Mexico.
But after the defeat of the Taliban by the Northern Alliance, the overthrow of Mullah Omar and our failure to capture or kill bin Laden at Tora Bora, we decided to stay on and convert the most tribalized and xenophobic land on earth into an Islamic democracy and strategic ally.
We will soon enter the 10th year of this war. And though 100,000 U.S. and 50,000 NATO troops are committed, the Taliban are winning — because they are not losing. They are more numerous, more deadly and more resourceful than they have been since their ouster in 2001.
Even Gen. Stanley McChrystal said the war was a draw. And Biden says we have reached the limit of our commitment.
Thus, what we are looking at is endless bleeding, now running at 60 dead U.S. soldiers a month, with no American military or political leader willing to say when the bleeding will stop or the war will end.
And the home front is visibly eroding. A majority of Americans now believe the war is unwinnable or not worth the cost, and a growing minority in Congress wants out. Some NATO allies are departing. Others are setting deadlines for withdrawal.
As for the Afghans we leave behind, who committed themselves to America’s war, they will, when we depart, suffer the fate of the "harkis" in Algeria, the South Vietnamese army and boat people, and the Cambodians we left behind to the tender mercies of the Khmer Rouge.
Have the politicians, journalists, and think-tank geniuses who dreamed up these wars suffered ignominy and disgrace?
Not at all. They are debating and devising a new war — with Iran.
COPYRIGHT 2010 CREATORS.COM
Read more by Patrick J. Buchanan
- Who Wants War With Iran? – February 6th, 2012
- He Who Defends Everything Defends Nothing – February 2nd, 2012
- Who Wants War With Iran? – January 19th, 2012
- Our Innocents Abroad? – January 2nd, 2012
- Make Congress Vote on War on Iran – December 22nd, 2011





sherban
July 30th, 2010 at 4:30 am
I read the article and wondered about some data:the number of Iraqi people killed is "only"100 thousand..When i read the article of Buchanan i saw that mistakenly the article which appeared under P.C.Roberts name is the same with that of Pat Buchanan.I'm sure that P.C.Roberts would give a million Iraqi victims the number which is marked by most of unofficial sources.
Mezenc
July 30th, 2010 at 5:05 am
no, the Afghanistan War did not start out as a just war. It is an illegal war just like the Iraq War. The Taliban offered to send bin Laden to a neutral country for trial if the US would show the evidence against him. Since there is no evidence, the US just went ahead and invaded. Almost 9 years since Bush & Co said it was bin Laden (like about 10:30 am on 9/11) and we have never seen a shred of legitimate evidence. Bin Laden's "confession" was a video recording "found" by the US army and it appears to be a fake. The only reason for a fake confession is that there is no hard evidence. The confession of other "Al Qaeda" that we hear about were from torture. The only reason to torture out a confession is that there is no hard evidence.
JLS
July 30th, 2010 at 5:18 am
"Have the politicians, journalists, and think-tank geniuses who dreamed up these wars suffered ignominy and disgrace?
Not at all. They are debating and devising a new war — with Iran."
And Yemen, and North Korea, oh and Venezuela.
James
July 29th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
So the US invades 3 coutries on false pretense, kills almost 1 ,million people, left hated by the entire world population and this Pat dumfuck is just politicising? Democrats bla bla, republicans bla bla, liberals bla bla, socialism bla bla.
You want your country back Mr Puke Cannon, move like a man and demand the trial of all people involved, do not pussy out of facing the truth. It is the entire cabal of zoinist in America of all political color and creed. Once this is done I will try to convince my self and think of Americans as human beings.
RogueBuddha
July 30th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Attn: Mod
This article shows up when I click on the Paul Craig Roberts link.
Mark
July 29th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
The Afghan War was, at its inception, a just war.
Nope. Turns out it was just as much of a lie as Iraq, Iran, hezbollah, Gaza, Flotilla, or anything else. All lies. So we say Afghan was just war cause after all it's gospel truth that Osama and the Taliban attacked us and they were found out. But the Taliban said ok U.S. here's Osama – we'll give him up to you, just show us the proof…course it was all a lie. Israel attacked America on 9/11. All Taliban had was a $100B opium market they had just shut down that needed to come back to life and an oil pipeline that needed to go to Unocal.
So not trying to disagree with mr. roberts – he gets it ok, i'm just saying lets not fall back on afghan is the "good war" and iraq was the "bad war". they are all wars for the russian jewish mafia and a complete waste of our time.
drewhause
July 30th, 2010 at 7:52 am
No more invasions please.
http://www.good-dog- care.com
ghouri
July 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am
This is non sense we if can plan from Hills of Agfghanistan to attack america, if so why not the neighbouring countries of south america attack as all my college and university friends from latin america hate them like pest. America is every where present as a killer and hated.
Even if we believe that Osama has some thing to do with WTC why the americans have delivered no proof to Mullah Umer. Who was ready to try him in Afghanistan or in world court.
Actually the whole planning to attack was made during Bill Clington erra but he refused CIA plan to desroy WTC. This is a fact and day will come out like in Japan to through atom bomb they destroy in Pearl harbour their own ship and the same method they wanted in Cuba to sink a ship and occupy Cuba and J.F.Kennedy refused and lossed his life.
This is the history of super power they have committed crimes against humanity and were destroyed. Americans must prepare themself for that.
geo1671
July 30th, 2010 at 11:14 am
"Perhaps 100,000 dead, half a million widows "
Is weasel Patty Cake telling us that perhaps these dead (only) male Iraqies had many wifes.
one to five :^/
Seeker
July 30th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
And, please God, we will never forget any of the neocon bastards, following whose advice both parties did so much damage to the United States.
victor
July 30th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Leaving is against Israel's interest…so we stay!
V for Vendetta
July 30th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Why is it when I click on Paul Craig Robert's article I get linked to Pat Buchanan's?
Brodajo
July 30th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Brother Pat lists what the wars have cost. Can someone list all the parties that have gotten rich by having and continuing to have wars. Gen, Smedley Butler claimed war is nothing but a "racket" I think along those lines myself.
guest
July 30th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Link is fixed, so if you reload the home page, the Paul Craig Roberts piece will result when you click on the article.
Tim T
July 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
If Buchanan said the full truth, as you have written above, then he would no longer be allowed to write columns. Look what happened to Helen Thomas.
donna
July 30th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Are we living on the same planet?
1. Biden says "I do not believe so" and you take that for a "no"? Naive.
2. Obama an antiwar liberal Democrat? Maybe you missed the part during the campaign where Obama pledged to bring the war to Afghanistan? Doesn't sound much like an antiwar anything. As for "liberal"–given his sellout on health care, financial reform, Guantanamo, and so many other progressive causes, I'd hardly call him a liberal.
3. Obama leading America into socialism? How, by giving the banks free reign, contracting out our wars to private mercenaries, handing out drilling rights, and making sweetheart deals with big insurance and big pharma?
5. "If the Taliban would not turn over bin Laden…we had a right to go in after him"–well, newsflash, the Taliban did offer to turn him over to a neutral third country if we could supply proof that he was behind 9/11. No proof, ergo no deal. Our bad.
On one thing we do agree–the scum who gave us Iraq and AfPak are now busy planting false evidence and lobbying congress to make war on Iran. We have learned nothing.
MichaelKenny
July 30th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Without getting into the international law issues, the common thread between bin Laden and Pancho Villa is that the US failed to capture either of them! Pershing spent a whole year blundering around in Northern Mexico fighting the Mexican Army (not Villa!). Only US entry into WWI put an end to the whole fiasco. US bankruptcy may well put an end to the fiasco in Afghanistan!
pendulum
July 30th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
not one of our better articles pat.