Take the Deal, Mr. President
If Barack Obama is sincere in his policy of "no nukes in Iran — no war with Iran," he will halt this rude dismissal of the offer Tehran just made to ship half its stockpile of uranium to Turkey.
Consider what President Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah himself have just committed to do.
Iran will deliver 1,200 kilograms, well over a ton, of its 2-ton stockpile of low-enriched uranium (LEU) to Turkey. In return, Iran will receive, in a year, 120 kilograms of fuel rods for its U.S.-built reactor that produces medical isotopes for treating cancer patients.
Not only did Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey and President Lula da Silva of Brazil put their prestige on the line by flying to Tehran, the deal they got is a near-exact replica of the deal Obama offered Iran eight months ago.
Why is President Obama slapping it away? Does he not want a deal? Has he already decided on the sanctions road that leads to war?
Has the War Party captured the Obama presidency?
If Iran ships the LEU to Turkey, she would be left with only enough low-enriched uranium for one test explosion. And as that LEU is under U.N. surveillance, America would have a long lead time to act if Iran began to convert the LEU to weapons grade.
How is the Iranian program then an "existential threat" to anyone?
Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons — America thousands.
Critics say Iran still refuses to shut down the centrifuges turning out low-grade uranium. But if Iran stops the centrifuges, she surrenders her last bargaining chip to get sanctions lifted.
Critics say Iran is trying to abort Hillary Clinton’s campaign to have the Security Council impose a fourth round of sanctions. Undeniably true.
But if the purpose of sanctions is to force Iran to negotiate its nuclear program, they are already working. Tehran’s latest offer represents real movement.
Critics say Iran will weasel out if we take up the deal. Perhaps. Internal opposition caused Ahmadinejad to back away from Obama’s original offer, after he had indicated initial acceptance.
But, if so, Iran will be seen as duplicitous by Turkey and Brazil.
To the world today, the United States appears enraged that Iran is responding to America’s own offer, that it is we who do not want a peaceful resolution, that we and the Israelis are as hell-bent on war and "regime change" in Iran as George W. Bush was on war and regime change in Iraq.
While the Brazilians and Turks have surely complicated Hillary’s diplomacy, their motives are not necessarily sinister or malevolent.
Lula may be trying to one-up Obama and win a Nobel Prize as he leaves office. But what is wrong with that? Bill Clinton had a Nobel in mind when, in his final days, he went all-out for a Palestinian peace.
And Erdogan leads a country that cannot wish to see Iran acquire nuclear weapons. For Shi’ite Iran shares a border with Sunni Turkey, and the two are rivals for influence in the Islamic world and Central Asia.
Moreover, an Iranian bomb would force Turkey to consider a Turkish bomb. Erdogan thus has every incentive to seek a resolution of this crisis, to keep Iran free of nuclear weapons, and avert a war between yet another neighbor and his NATO ally, the United States.
If Obama refuses to take the Iranian offer seriously, it would appear a sure sign that the War Party has taken him into camp and he is departing the negotiating track for the confrontation track that leads to war.
Months ago, Time‘s Tony Karon asked the relevant question: "What if Ahmadinejad is serious?"
And there are obvious reasons why he might want a deal.
First, Iran runs out of fuel this year for its reactor that produces medical isotopes. And despite Tehran’s braggadocio about making fuel rods itself out of its existing pile of uranium, there is no evidence Tehran is technically capable of this.
Iranians dying of cancer because Ahmadinejad failed to get those fuel rods would create enmity toward him, as well as hatred of us for denying them to Iranian cancer patients.
Second, as the U.S. intelligence community yet contends, there is no hard evidence Iran has decided to go nuclear. For this would instantly put Iran in the nuclear gun sights of the United States and Israel. And what benefit would Shi’ite and Persian Iran, half of whose population is non-Persian, gain by starting a nuclear arms race in a region that is predominantly Arab and Sunni?
Third, Ahmadinejad leads a nation that is united in insisting on all its rights under the Nonproliferation Treaty, including the right to enrich. But his nation is deeply divided over his regime’s legitimacy after last June’s flawed, if not fixed, election.
If the United States were to accept Iran’s counter-offer, it would be a diplomatic coup for Ahmadinejad.
Maybe that’s the problem. The powers that be don’t really want a deal with Iran. They want Iran smashed.
COPYRIGHT 2010 CREATORS.COM
Read more by Patrick J. Buchanan
- Who Wants War With Iran? – February 6th, 2012
- He Who Defends Everything Defends Nothing – February 2nd, 2012
- Who Wants War With Iran? – January 19th, 2012
- Our Innocents Abroad? – January 2nd, 2012
- Make Congress Vote on War on Iran – December 22nd, 2011





sherban
May 21st, 2010 at 4:39 am
Of course :Maybe that’s the problem. The powers that be don’t really want a deal with Iran. They want Iran smashed."is true but with a correction:are not the powers but the power,namely US pushed by Israel because Mr.Ahmadinejad have to be punished.His attacks on Holocaust industry and his ambition not to let this issue to become a universal religion and to refit it in more verified and rationale way his desire that not be the Palestinians who should suffer the consequences, made him a new Hitler enemy of Israel.So Mr.Mac Govern is right when he said that the target if regime change in Iran.The hope remain the rest of the world that this time will not give a hand to a new criminal and unnecessary war.
Johnny in Wi.
May 21st, 2010 at 4:56 am
When Hussain let the Nuclear inspectors back in I thought war would be avoided. That sure was wrong. The inspectors found nothing. Blair, Bush, Powell, Cheney and the neocons lied us into Iraq anyhow. It will be the same with Iran. It will be lies, lies,and more lies until we are into another world war.
epppie
May 21st, 2010 at 10:16 am
This is a good article, but I think there are a couple of important misses. One has to do with Obama. There is no reason to think that Obama was ever sincere about his "engagement" strategy. It was clear from the beginning that his real strategy was to extend a clenched fist, while calling it an open hand. For God's sake, even Bush made real noises about opening a diplomatic office of some kind in Tehran! The only thing Obama ever did to show any real effort at diplomacy was the October deal, but even that deal contained an obvious poison pill that Obama had to know would kill it; Iran had to trust Russia and France, two nations who have demonstrated to Iran that they cannot be trusted. Both have reneged on deals with Iran before, Russia quite recently with its constant delays of the defensive s-300 deal, and with its constant delays over Bushere.
epppie
May 21st, 2010 at 10:16 am
The important thing to note is that when Iran came back with rather reasonable counteroffers, Obama spat in their faces, repeatedly. HE WAS ALWAYS ON BOARD WITH THE WAR PARTY. Clinton said from the beginning that the real reason to appear to negotiate with Iran was to get other countries on board for sanctions and war. She didn't put it quite that nakedly, of course, but close.
Obama also knows that demanding Iran cease enriching uranium is unnecessary (there appears to be agreement that Iran's enrichment program is terminally impaired anyway) and is the mother of all poison pills, as well as being illegal. Getting the security council to agree to strip Iran of its rights to enrich uranium under the IAEA does not ipso facto make such a demand legal, nor does it make such a demand binding, as the US and Israel have demonstrated over and over again. But beyond that, Iran's determination to enrich uranium is central to it's vision of itself as a country that upholds the sovereignty and rights of 'lesser' nations around the world. Obama knows this. So what is really going on?
epppie
May 21st, 2010 at 10:17 am
As the Turkey/Brazil deal has made still more clear, what is at stake is Obama's determination, in concert with nearly the entire US elite, to break the back of any resistance anywhere in the globe to US dictat. And this is not a decent, acceptable, moral … reason for sanctions OR war. This is a demonstration of the way a brutal and ruthless Empire acts, not the way of a nation that regards itself as a defender of freedom and liberty and so on and so on, acts.
Do we truly want to be the Global Bully? Are we truly a nation of bullies? Is that truly our national character?
CollinH
May 21st, 2010 at 10:38 am
I agree with eppie there was never an intention by Obama to un-clench his fist. He just gave some nice rhetoric without following through with any action. Now the Administration is saying that even the intention of the October deal was for Iran to end its nuclear enrichment. So Obama is even back tracking on what he said, dialogue without pre-conditions? Hillary Clinton is also saying that the U.S. Admin. has no interest in discussing the current proposal on the table unless Iran agrees to stop its enrichment. In fact all of this demonstrates that in fact we are the ones who can't be trusted. . We continue to weasel our way out of deals only to come up with new demands. The agenda is regime change and it doesn't matter how we achieve
jojoos
May 21st, 2010 at 10:52 am
Pat blows and sucks at the same time.Speaking of poisin pills–did you miss these bomb pills
i) 'Bill Clinton had a Nobel in mind when, in his final days, he went all-out for a Palestinian peace."
What bullsh!t Pat spues! Billy Goat was 100% againist Palestinians–smoke and mirrors–just dragged it along.What came of it?–Big Zero for the Arabs.
ii) "But his nation is deeply divided over his regime’s legitimacy after last June’s flawed, if not fixed, election"
Patty Cake–you are full of sh**.
You like to appease both sides and still give the obvious swift boot. Please stop being an @sss
Question For Pat–Why were you supporting Jr.Bush during both of his Elections and never questioned–But USA's nation is deeply divided over Bush's regime’s legitimacy after last 2000/2004’s flawed, if not fixed, election–Yaah Patty–remember DieBold voting Machines–brought to us by Bush's Texan pal :^/
Torpedo
May 21st, 2010 at 12:36 pm
And round and round we go. The verbal merry go round about Iran possibly doing this or that, in response to that or this, so we HAVE to force more sanctions on them. And even better, if we make them look really bad, we can righteously declare war on them.
BLAH, BLAH BLAH…….
At the end of the day, war is profitable ( at least for the side with the guns ), and power is an enchanting temptress, so there will not be an end to this until the US has finally sunk under the waves.
They are too stupid to do otherwise.
Ah..the american dream…to smash all those that do not bow to her.
TonyJoseph
May 21st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
The 'empire' thrives on endless war until endless war causes the empire to collapse!
PoN
May 21st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
"the deal they got is a near-exact replica of the deal Obama offered Iran eight months ago."
The crucial bit is that this isn't exactly true. The original deal would see IAEA inspectors enter the enrichment facility at Qom, which the new deal does not mention at all. There are several other key differences there as well.
I would think it is quite aparent that this is an attempt by Iran to avoid further sanctions by accepting a waterd down version of what was on the table 6 months ago and then rejected by them. Moving two steps forward and then accept a half step backwards to split the international consensus is very much in line with the expert diplomatic skills Iran has shown before. But accepting it would mean the game continues and you will never get them to back down on the key issue that way.
eve
May 21st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Will this debate on this board stop any action of war?
If not, what is the solution?
Does writing your congressional representative (and I use the word representative loosely) change anything?
It's time to vote out the incumbents and replace them with non pro-Israeli incumbents who put the US (and it's interests) first.
Then (and only then) will the tide turn.
humanist
May 21st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
epppie
I became suspicious of Obama after reading his letter to Khalilzad in January 2009 defending Israel on Gaza issue.
In Obama’s 2009 Nowruz message there were couple of questionable nuances and lectures such as:
“The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations. You have that right — but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions….”
Terror or arms?. By terror did he mean Iranian proxies killing Americans in Iraq or Afghanistan? Those allegations were proven to be baseless. Iran is very careful not to give any excuse to cause US anger. Did he mean supporting Hezbollah and Hammas? Most impartial observers believe they are (cornered) resistant groups only fighting the Israeli occupation?.
And by “arms” he obviously didn’t mean the conventional defensive arsenal but did he mean the “nuclear weapons”? If so, why he ignored the American NIE and UN IAEA and reflected the baseless neo-con / Israeli allegations?
humanist
May 21st, 2010 at 5:09 pm
For me, Obama’s 2010 Nowruz message is even more telling especially on the issues I have investigated with relative impartiality..
From Obama’s message:
“ Last June, the world watched with admiration, as Iranians sought to exercise their universal right to be heard. But tragically, the aspirations of the Iranian people were also met with a clenched fist, as people marching silently were beaten with batons; political prisoners were rounded up and abused; absurd and false accusations were leveled against the United States and the West; and people everywhere were horrified by the video of a young woman killed in the street”
Absurd accusations? My work shows “there exists not a single reliable evidence of fraud in the June election and the the “big lies” filled the entire Western media and showered over unaware “progressive” Iranian protestors were manufactured by outsider enemies of Iran. (one of them who revealed that secret was Kenneth Timmerman).
humanist
May 21st, 2010 at 5:10 pm
I can’t imagine Obama with armies of Intelligence agents working for him didn’t know Ahmadinejad will win with a wide margin and was not aware why British government took MEK off the terrorist list about a year before the election time or why BBC Persian Service started to work in early 2009..
With that background imagine what would have been the reaction of the US security agencies in Washington DC if groups of American anti-system protestors had burnt police-stations, buses, etc killing nine policemen? Imagine the protestors were deceived by countless Iranian and Syrian Twitter messages to make the protestors believe in grpss lies forcing them to pour into streets in angry demonstrations. What would have happened then? Of course the protests would’ve been crushed with police force or using harsher measures than what Iranians used.
My question is “Why Obama deliberately or otherwise portrays his inability to envision what he would have done if he was in charge of the Iranian government?”
humanist
May 21st, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Now about Neda’s death:
In June 2009 after Neda’s killing, I was using Google Search to know more about it. I was led to a site ( http://paulocoelhoblog.com/ ) where the content of a set of suspicious email between a Brazilian man (the owner of that site) and Arash Hejazi ( the doctor who appears in that famous video) were published. Now those email are deleted. I wish I could’ve saved them, since there Hejazi asks the man something like “.. take care of my family if I am killed.”
For variety of reasons I am suspicious of foreign involvements in that beautiful girl’s death.
5ds
May 21st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
obama is as sincere in wanting peace with iran as pappy bush was sincere in trying to resolve iraq-kuwait without bombs or george 2(well, his controllers) wanting to resolve gulf 2 without slaughter.
war is wanted. slaughter, destruction, chaos is the goal.
these are the goal's of israel and its agents in dead america
Smithboy
May 21st, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Take the deal and blow years of trying to demonize one of the largest oil producers in the world? Laughable.
humanist
May 21st, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Pat, I am neither conservative nor believe in god…..yet, I have an elating respect for you, because the neocons were incapable of buying you or silencing you….it feels good thinking about men/women with a sense of integrity and honesty..
Sadly your anti-war cries and voices of so many other conscientious Americans are dimmed away against the very laud drum beatings of war …this time with Iran. (Refer to Philip Giraldi’s last post in antiwar.com)
The psychopathic warmongers, with their immense power and inexhaustible resources don’t give a damn about Buchanons, Girladis or the whole benevolence, especially now that they have 71% of Americans on their side (Most believe Iran is evil, a “real” threat to US, Israel and the world, as a lady on Scott Horton’s Radio show revealed), they have the evil MSM, the Congress, the Senate and most probably the White House in their pocket.
humanist
May 21st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
These frightening facts making us all worry desperately……they fooled Americans in the demonic Iraqi case and got away with it without the slightest punishment…. all of the responsible neocons or their MSM are walking free….never expressing any remorse, guilt or shame.
Apparently quite a few in the intelligence community and some in the Pentagon believe in the folly of a vague, unnecessary and consequential war with Iran. Let’s hope they could save US again, this time with coming up with another NIE or anything strong enough to stop another mindless mass destruction or mss murder ……..and another sever historical wound on all of humanity. .
humanist
May 21st, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Do your home work….else no one takes you seriously.
The inspector visited the Qum side many times.
Elbaradei declared something like “it is just a hole in the mountains”
OBSERVER
May 21st, 2010 at 8:55 pm
THANKS PAT, NO ONE CAN SAVE A BLIND MAN WHO IS JUST TWO STEP AWAY
FROM A NEWLY DUG DRY AND DEEP WELL.
Wellstone
May 21st, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Has the 'war party' captured the Obama Presidency?
The answer is of course no, but only because you can't capture what you already have. And the war party has long included the Democrats and Obama.
I know the right wing runs their propaganda line about how the Democrats are a bunch of peaceniks, but in reality, the Democratic party has only been an antiwar party twice in its 200 or so years of history.
One of the two times was when McGovern took control of the party at the height of the popular rebellion against the Vietnam war. This position of the Democrats being an anti-war party was ended by 1976, when the party bosses who'd just started and fought the Vietnam War took back control of the party. They then quickly changed the rules to make another McGovern like rebellion much harder. Remember the 'super-delegates' that Hillary and Obama fought over? Those are there to make sure that the next McGovern needs 60% of the vote to win.
The other time that the Democrats were an anti-war party was backed during the Civil War. The Democrats opposed Lincoln and the Civil War because the Democrats were of course the party of the slave holders.
Other than that, the Democrats have always been a pro-war party. I'm old enough to remember back when the Republicans used to point out that it was Democrats who'd started every American war in the 20th century, up until the Bush clan got power.
And there's no doubt that the Democrats have been a very pro-war party for a long time now. There was exactly one Democrat vote against the war in Afghanistan (Barbara Lee). There were only a scattering of votes against the Iraq war. The Democrats voted for every bloated Pentagon budget and off-budget war appropriation under Bush. Then when they took control of Congress, the Democrats took over the job of shepparding these bills through Congress and ensuring their passage. Obama himself ran on campaign pledges to keep the troops in Iraq for his whole first term, and more promises to raises defense spending and the size of Army and the Marines.
So, please don't try to tell me that Obama's been 'captured' by the war party. He's always been a full-fledged member.
silentbob
May 21st, 2010 at 9:56 pm
By definition of the problem, anyone who can get their within two steps can.
The problem today is that the blind man is surrounded by legions of riot police in their darth vader outfits and they beat the crap out of anyone who dares to try to get even within shouting distance of the blind man to try to warn him.
FredOppenheimer
May 21st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
The key point is this.
"low-grade uranium" is no threat to anyone. Remember that during all the BS that is flying around about Iran. "Low grade uranium is no threat to anyone." Write it on the board a 100 times like Bart Simpson. "Low grade uranium is no threat to anyone" "Low grade uranium is no threat to anyone".
The one thing they could do is to use it the way the US constantly uses depleted uranium. Ie, as a very heavy metal tip on the end of a armor piercing shell. But you can never, ever, ever, build a bomb with low-grade uranium.
So, I don't care how much they have. I don't care how much they produce. I don't care who they trade it with. Low grade uranium is no threat to anyone.
This is uranium 'enriched' to 3%. I think the reactor they've been wanting for medical isotopes uses uranium at 20%. The key is this. If it isn't 90% pure, or better, it ain't gonna go boom. They can wad this stuff up to make spitballs out of it. But there ain't no way you ever get 20% pure uranium to go boom in a mushroom cloud. And it doesn't matter how much they have. Its the purity that stops them from making a bomb.
They have to get uranium up to over 90% pure to blow it up. Which is why the IAEA monitors what they are doing and says all their tests show the Iranians have never exceeded the limits on purity. They know enough that its only high-grade uranium that we need to be concerned about, so that's what they watch and monitor and that's what they keep saying Iran has zilch of … no high-grade, bomb-grade uranium in Iran.
I don't care how much low grade uranium they have. And it sure as heck ain't worth dying over.
greg
May 21st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
It's time for Pat, and the American people, to wake up to this simple, but hard to admit, fact:
WE are the bad guys.
Adam
May 21st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
The interesting fine print of the sanctions is that it is Iranian banks that are the target.
Sounds to me like the wall street banks that own this government (and Republican or Democrat makes no difference) are just launching a strike at some of their competition.
Your tax dollars at work.
Marquaritaville
May 21st, 2010 at 10:19 pm
correct right up until the point where you decide to blame Israel.
To steal a line from Jimmy Buffet, its our own damn fault.
PatHenry
May 21st, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Actually, they don't have 71% of Americans on their side.
If you really look at the polls, about 60% to 70% of America is antiwar in one shape or another right now. You see it clearly in the polls on Iraq, where a steady 60-70% has said come home as soon as we can for a long time now.
A majority of the public opposes the Afghan war and wants the troops home. Just over a year ago, a propaganda blitz surrounding the surge got support levels up to about 50%, but that was a very short term effect, and the majority of Americans once again wants us out of Afghanistan.
There might be a short term propaganda blitz that's created a very phony effect of 71% in favor of saber-rattling against Iran. But that will be a very short term effect.
The comforting thing is the way they have to lie to us and try to manipulate the American people. That tells us that the American people don't support the war party's agenda. Its good that they have to lie to us. Its bad that too many fall for it, even if in the short term.
But, its very important to always remember that we are the majority. What we need is a functioning democracy where that majority can have an impact on the policy of our nation.
12steps
May 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
That's the first step towards recovery.
Jeff.Davis
May 21st, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Thank you, humanist. I thought the Iranians were continuing their record of rigorous compliance with the terms of the NPT.
A major advantage liars have is that whatever they need they can just make up. Those who want to deal in the truth, on the other hand must do some work to find it.
Ayden
May 21st, 2010 at 11:36 pm
There is a need for the correction in this article,the population of the Farce(persian) Iranians in Iran is only 22%,and the Azerbaijani Turks constitute 42% of the Iran's populatin,with 32 million people .
PoN
May 21st, 2010 at 11:47 pm
It would naturally give you more credibility if you dug up the truth then, but meanwhile, this document should be a nice read; http://www.isis-online.org/uploads/isis-reports/d…
The point about inspections relate to the future, when the Qom facility is in use. But it is a bit more than a "hole in the mountain" ;) From the document though, you can get a good feeling for what Iran is doing, and not doing. It's not exactly playing nice with IAEA. The truth is of course more complicated than the headlines tend to be.
Jeff.Davis
May 22nd, 2010 at 12:05 am
You're almost right, Fred, but miss two important points.
First, the US and Israel are primarily interested in eliminating Iran as a powerful, wealthy, and independent adversarial force in the mideast. It really screws up their plans for dominating that region. And they will use any method or excuse — nuke ambitions, claims of dangerous aggressiveness, the aiding of "terrorists", the "brutal suppression" of "freedom-seeking" Iranian dissidents, whatever — to further their goal of provoking a war that will allow the US and Israel to bomb Iran, if not into submission, then at least "back into the stone age".
The second point is that low enriched uranium — 3-5% — or medium enriched uranium — 20% — is also not the issue, The capacity to enrich, and in volume, is the issue, because any enrichment capability will do low, medium, or weapons-grade with equal ease, and only the most trivial of equipment adjustments. That is why the Iranians want a seriously large — 56,000 centrifuges — enrichment capacity. Then they will have the ability to reconfigure their gear, and churn out a bomb's worth of weapons-grade uranium in say, a week.
The beauty of this — and I have to say, I'm very impressed by the skill the Iranians have executed in this chess game — is that it enables the Iranians to have all the advantages of nuclear deterrence without ever violating the NPT or building a bomb. Technical mastery of the enrichment process and a large capacity enrichment facility is 99.99% of building a nuke.
It'll be interesting to see how this game plays out.
FredOppenheimer
May 22nd, 2010 at 12:19 am
Actually no, the capacity to enrich to 3% isn't the same as the capacity to enrich to 95%. If you only think about simply, then maybe it can seem that way.
But the problem is that as you strive for higher and higher enrichments/purities, the little flaws in the system that didn't matter at 3% suddenly become a roadblock at some higher level. And as you strive for higher puritites, the problems to solve get tougher and tougher. Its some tiny little thing that you are trying to improve to get those last few percents of purity. So, theoretically, a centrifuge that could do 3% should be able to do 95%, but reality says that's usually not the case.
Countries that have done this usually work their way up the scale, finding first the problems that keep them from 30%, then the ones that keep them from 40% etc. If I remember correctly, Pakistan spent years doing this before they finally learned all the tricks to make bomb-grade uranium.
Just looked it up …http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/pakistan/nuke/
Pakistan started its nuclear program in 1972.
Dr. Kahn arrived with his specialized centrifuge knowledge in 1975
Pakistan was able to make bomb-grade uranium in 1985
Pakistan had enough for one fission weapon in 1986
Pakistan thought they could explode a bomb in 1987
Pakistan first conducted nuclear tests in 1998.
Notice that it was 10 years AFTER the arrival of the European scientists from a classified enrichment facility who brought stolen plans and technology with him before they got to the level of getting bomb-grade uranium out of their centrifuges.
In the real world, it doesn't seem to be nearly as easy as CNN makes it sound.
USA FIRST!!!
May 22nd, 2010 at 12:54 am
We do not want another war, Why would we (US)? is the USA just a big dummy manipulated by a crafty sneak into fighting its battles while they pick our pockets?
YES!
IRAQ all over again, that wasn't our war either.
Let's call a spade a spade.
J. Alejandro
May 22nd, 2010 at 4:07 am
Mantra: Ahmm, Bush, Cheney, neo-cons. Ahmm, Bush, Cheney, neo-cons. Ahmm, Bush, Cheney, neo-cons. Ahmm, Bush, Cheney, neo-cons. Ahmm, Bush, Cheney, neo-cons. Ahmm, Bush, Cheney, neo-cons. Ahmm, lies, lies,and more lies. Ahmm, lies, lies,and more lies. Ahmm, lies, lies,and more lies.